How does MotoGP™'s new concessions system work? 👀 | MotoGP™ Workshop
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มี.ค. 2024
- Mike Webb, #MotoGP Race Director, details how the new ranking system will work, and how it impacts engines allowed, aero limits, test tyres and wildcard appearances 🗣️
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Ducati is so dominant that there is a blank group between them and next manufacturer 😂
embarrassing for the 🇯🇵
Yet the weebs keep simpin😂
@@drsrsv8884 Exactly.
Tbh I'm so sick and tired of seeing those ignorant Japanese bike weebs crying about Ducati's dominance while failing to realize that MotoGP was dominated by those bikes from Japan in the past for 45 years from 1974 to 2019.
@@NoLuckJKMY807 They make zero sense. MotoGP was a Japanese championship for decades.
Now that other manufacturers are doing well, the weebs complain.
As if they are Japanese, or their daddy owns the company🤣
@@drsrsv8884 Indeed.
Do you know there's an ignorant Japanese bike weeb in this very community who had cried and accused Dorna of being racist against the Japanese all the time? That person claimed that this concession system is yet another part of Dorna and Ducati's Anti-Japanese plot, which makes absolutely no sense at all.
Is that why Aprilia won a sprint race .
I honestly think it's a good idea. Hopefully it helps keep anyone else from leaving, and brings other manufacturers to MotoGP. I'd like to see Kawasaki and Susuki come back, or even BMW.
BMW are looking at joining 2027!! Just saw the news
@@quitsevensixif even yamaha and suzuki are not able to do anything with inline 4 then what does bmw even expect?
@@poochbaloo5995 Idk just glad to see another make in the mix
@@poochbaloo5995 Suzuki won a world championship in 2020 and was highly competitive in subsequent seasons until their departure...
Lol no
No wildcards for ducati is a shame, i saw an interview of michele pirro saying that the wild card is like a reward for all the job done, and now he cannot race due to the new rules
I think that all groups should be allowed at least one wildcard.
Isn’t it incredible that Honda & Yamaha are back of the grid 😮
thanks for the transparent explanation
Excellent video!
Well explained.
The No wild card is outrageous and unfair
They’ve got 8 bikes on the grid mate..
@@KimmyGuardadoThey really need to cut that down...no more than two satellite per manufacturer and can only use a year old bike.
Basically, new concessions exist because Honda got mad when Rins won in Texas and eliminated them from having the old concessions /j
which fair...one result doesnt define anything.
Cool that the ranking changes mid season.
Very good idea to level the playing field and help teams who at different stages of the championship.
It is so unfair, Ducati worked really hard for the advantage and the Japanese manufactures did not
how the f they put aprilia and ktm in group c 💀
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Tbh judging from the Japanese bike riders' performances in the Qatar GP we should only count on those Frenchmen (Fabio and Zarco) to carry their respective manufacturers from the bottom of the MotoGP's totem pole.
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Where was this when honda and yamaha were dominating?😂
The big 🇯🇵 must of cried to DORNA, that Ducati was slapping them around🤣
It existed when they were dominating and it benefited Ducati.
Ducati Aero did not happen overnight...Ducati aprilia and ktm are were they are now because of concession
@@drsrsv8884 on exactly same level.
@drsrsv8884
It exists for years...Ducati, KTM, Aprilia all benefited from it. It's a good and fair system.
@@drsrsv8884 Yes, to this level. When Ducati entered Open Class they were allowed, more fuel, more tyres, more than double the amout of engines with no limit on engine development or revs, testing was wherever and whenever as long as it wasn't within 15 days prior to a race.
Too much aero needs to stop. Aero takes a long time to develop and adapt. Hence the ducati advantage...credit to them but bad for competition.
volkswagon group is rich
Yamaha need to sell more Pianos
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Makes sense. The championship is not decided on the number podium places or the number or rounds since your last podium, it's decided on total points of the season, so why should the concessions work on a deliberately different system? Don't give teams two different targets to aim for.
I would suggest we should also have a look at cost control, because as far as I know, the bottom has fallen out of sportsbike sales, thanks in part to Euro smog restrictions. The kind of bikes MotoGP is designed to promote, high end sportsbikes, most companies are staying with what they have for as long as they can, or they're simply leaving the market. None of the Japanese litre-class bikes are going to be sold in Europe next year. So, what's the point of Suzuki or Kawasaki coming back to MotoGP? The more likely outcome is the Honda & Yamaha are going to drop it. Even superbike becomes a bit questionable, but MotoGP is completely impossible to justify to managers and book-keepers and investors if you can't even sell the bike you make. Why spend ten$ of million$ of Euro on racing, when the only bike you're allowed to sell in Europe, is a battery operated scooter? Or a 250 Virago 'chopper' for the wild boys?
It's not just that, at least in the UK the average age of riders keeps going up so older riders (generally) don't want super focused race bikes for riding at road speeds everywhere. The bikes keep getting faster and more track focused, making them less fun on the roads where they want people to buy them.
Hope this makes japanese manufacturer be more competitive again...
It's going to do the opposite. It allows them concessions when they don't perform as well
BMW are considering coming to MotoGP in 2027!!!!
I guess they'll need at least 2 more tiers then.
At first it seemed like they were giving away participation trophy's to the slow riders. But I guess it will make it more competitive.
This is real good. It increases the competitiveness❤❤
Dear Yamaha, now you have unlimited engines and testing, why don't you switch to a V4, yours sincerely, most fans
Probably because they don't have unlimited money to try and chase the current best thing. and try to compete with teams that have had years to develop that engine already. No good bankrupting themselves trying to chase motorsport titles, when they are slowly pulling out of actually then selling sportsbikes too.
Just make it more attractive for new entrants as well. The returns of Suzuki, Kawasaki, the planned entry of BMW in 2027 and hey you never know maybe even the smaller manufacturers try it out.
Limit as well number of bikes on the grid per manufacturer. 8 Ducatis is too much. Max should be 6 and only max of 4 can be current spec the rest to be at least a year old.
Horrible BOP, let the sport remain a sport, and not something artificial, where the ones that worked hard and achieved great things are beeing punished for it.
The sort of industrial espionage that is going right now in MotoGP is left undisturbed, something that in F1 is very closely monitored, but no, instead MotoGP is doing a ridiculously unfair BOP.
Disgusting!
The risk is though, if the other manufacturers can't produce results or a competative bike, the gap widens and eventually they just cut their losses. None of us want to see only Ducati racing KTM every week.
Sometimes the sports survival is more important
It is easier to limit patents, some of which date back 1956 like desmodromic . And that patent is unfair
For everyone Info : Honda and Yamaha is not really investing anything in motogp , they just exist for name sake.
Only reason Ducati is dominating :)
after 2007 they have won only now....Yamaha and Honda have won way more than Ducati will ever win.
@@pummyy actual reason is, there is NO Return of Investment in MotoGP anymore for Honda or Yamaha and on top of that ,New rules favours more into Ducati which Honda and Yamaha can beat but since there isn't any roi ,they are not investing anything onto it. Budget, Progress has been reduced a lot for Honda and Yamaha in recent years.
Meanwhile F1 focused on increasing brand names ,Motogp still looking to milk money.
F1 has been releasing matches live in TV channels and Online OTT channels.
qualifying and race highlights are available for free in an organized manner in their TH-cam which makes people look at it more than MotoGP.
F1 taking over the new audiences and new generations meanwhile MotoGP still trying to milk money from same audience.
@@AommieF1 IS DEAD AND MOTOGP IS RISING MORE THAN EVER
@@PavlovMonocast Nope , F1 is rising not motogp. F1 focused on longer run and focusing on provincial their content for everyone which helps them lot of sponsers and increasing live viewers for F1. If you think it's dead ,reason is just Verstappen dominating this reason which makes their fans boring this season.
Meanwhile MotoGP literally running only cause of riders fanbases not cause of their infrastructure ( which sucks for real)
+ Buy Pass to view content if you missed live.
+ Takes decades for their social media to update the highlights.
+ Tons of one side favoured rules with electronics and aero wings.
+ Making Teams quit from MotoGP.
+ meanwhile their competitors are doing way better even though they don't have a good standards.
+ MotoGP can learn lot of from F1 in regarding to deliver content across all social media which is the future.
+ People are still begging to make a proper edits from editors with MotoGP.
@@ericjackson-nq4hp They invested when MotoGP was the talk and MotoGP was pulling lot of sponsers.
If you look at sponsers these recent years,it's been steadily lowering in number for MotoGP. Exact reason Honda reduced their interest.
Mm🔥💙
Just catch up,already.
Still MM#93 🆗❤️
All in all motorgp is better than F1
Hard to not see this as the system got revamped to help Honda and Yamaha to stop sucking after 3 years. If they come back in form now ill just have more respect for Aprilia and KTM anyway.
I can only imagine what Aleix might feel learning this news.
the rankings will change once yamaha and honda get to rank A then the concessions system will magically vanish lol.
Nope.. the only reason why Ducati is so dominant now is because they once has similar concessions from japanese.. and ktm also has newcomer concession for several years until now that they consistently compete with ducati for podiums..
These concessions will never change untill all manufacturers stamp on it... These changes were jointly accepted by every manufacturers... Dorna only put forward these changes then it is upto manufacturers
@@s4if no the reason Ducati is so dominant is because they invested heavily into their technologies.
where was this BS system when Honda and Yamaha were dominating?? this shit is rigged just like F1.
Yeah...thats kinda the point
@marcoskyiland4367
It exists for years...Ducati, KTM, Aprilia all benefited from it. It's a good and fair system.
They love helping the Japanese
At some point these bikes are going to look like jellyfish with Michelin tires.
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Che buffonata! 😂😂😂
Who are in the Tier D ?? Yes they are Hon-done and Yama-home
The concession system is based on screwing Ducati for working hard and better than the japanese manufacturers 😂
Cry more
@@bombergame8636 Why should I cry, pathetic Gen Zer that spends his sorry life telling people to "cope" and "cry" on the internet, Ducati is dominating and the japanese are nowhere to be seen.
Now crawl back to your parents' basement.
Why should I cry, pathetic Gen Zer that spends his sorry life telling people to "cope" and "cry" on the internet, Ducati is dominating and the japanese are nowhere to be seen.
Now crawl back to your parents' basement. @@bombergame8636
Ducati,ktm, Suzuki, Aprilia all factories had concessions .Japanese factory allowed them. but now when they need time to develop people are against it . I think it's fair and it will be interesting to watch riders making difference not by bike.
@@bombergame8636 cry more honda and Yamaha fanboy
awful music
Ducati ,,KTM and Aprilia is not fare,, to concesion to Japanese bike for concesion,, aerodinamika is bulshit ,,stop stop 😂😂😂😂
What about f1!!!! Lol 😆 🤣 😂
Define a wild card please
non-full time rider participating on a chosen race weekend
@@mercamia thanks!
Do a Google images search for "wildcard bitches!", that should explain everything
Just get rid of the aero already. Nobody needs the cat fish fairings in the real world
Your mom likes them😝
@@regioncycle3119 🤣
This new concession is *VERY CLEARLY* meant to help Honda and Yamaha to catch up with their European counterparts.
Yet a certain ignorant Japanese bike fanboy in this community would cry and accuse Dorna and Ducati for plotting yet another "Anti-Japanese conspiracy" against the Japanese manufacturers.
DUCATI CUP !!!
@@user-fc7li1tu5e Yet in the past nobody cried about the fact that this sport was known as "MotoJapan" for almost half a century.
WTH is this...Let Ducati dominate, they deserve that position and are there for a reason!
The Japanese manufacturers agreed and gave concessions to Ducati and European manufacturers when Honda and Yamaha were dominating. Only that change allowed Ducati and other Euro teams to climb up ahead.
@@rijulchopra6011 ok so? that's their problem their ego got to big.
Competition drives innovation. If it isn't competitive I'm afraid other manufacturers will leave the sport
Remember what happened to 125s and 250s when they let one manufacturer dominate?
Boring
This sounds incredibly over complicated tbh.
Remove the f*** aero (or restrict it heavily) and we’ll see much better racing.
This seems like communism to me. Imagine if soccer/football had a system like this...last years champion forced to play the new year with less players or score into a smaller net or whatever you can think of that would reduce the chances of the team winning in the new year. If Ducati had won every year for the last 30, then maybe I'd be more open minded about this system. However, they've only been dominating in recent years. Let the other manufacturers/teams find ways to be more competitive. If a "C" team wins this year, there should be an asterisk next to their name indicating that the win probably due to special treatment.
The concessions given to Japanese motorbike manufacturers are not sincere from European manufacturers because they don't want Japanese manufacturers to be competitive again. In my opinion, aerodynamics must be eliminated and MotoGP must return to the era of 2016 to 2020. Motorbikes can compete with each other, crossing each other in corners and that makes the competition even more interesting for Moto GP. Moto GP in the current era, whoever is the manufacturer who is fast, wins, unlike before, presents action that is stunning and fun to watch. For me, aerodynamics is stupid. public... FIM and DORNA must quickly take action to make MotoGP more fun to watch in the future... Return the ECU to in-house so that each motorbike manufacturer can make and mix their motorbikes according to existing regulations... We have to be honest, the Magnetti Mirelli ECU is only suitable for European motorbikes... used to be good on Honda motorbikes because they changed the engine character from screamer to bigbang so they could be world champions... I don't know how long this lie will end so Moto GP will be fun to watch again.