Toyota GR Corolla | High Price for Old School Fun
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- We do a technical deep dive and street review on the 2023 Toyota GR Corolla hot hatch. With a price tag of $40,000, this may be the most fun you can have in a Toyota designed a built by Toyota. Others to consider are Civic Type R, Hyundai Elantra N, VW Golf R, and Subaru WRX STI.
#cars #technology #fun
Index:
00:00 Interior and Exterior Impressions
3:14 Mechanical Impressions
4:19 The Chief Engineer and Special Manufacturing
6:09 The GR is not an average Corolla
7:03 Understanding the Morizo Editon
8:25 The Difference Between the Core and Circuit
9:43 The GR-Four AWD System
11:43 AWD Limitations
13:03 The Updates to the Engine with Chief Engineer
15:12 The Engine and Weight Balance
16:25 Driving Impressions
23:42 Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
What kind of bizzaro world do we live in where the two best enthusiast "economy car" options on the market are a $70,000 Civic or a $50,000 Corolla? Literally what the fuck.
Clown world for sure…same world that believes we should be all battery in 12 years.
The world of CUVs
Buy mazda 3 turbo. That's a closet you can get for your wish
@JD B Screw it, I'm taking the bus to work. I'd rather have a friendly chat with the crackheads than get vaporized by an EV Hummer.
They can make it for cheaper, but the environmental regulations basically prohibits them from selling too many. This it's not Toyota's fault, it's voters for voting the way they did.
You guys talking to the engineers behind these vehicles, and putting them on a lift to explain the under body hardware combined with an extensive real world driving impressions is what sets this channel above the rest. Thanks for a great review fellas!
Crazy D riding
@@DB-sd3cw Nah he's right. SG throws together a quality and informative video, instead of blabbing on about bullshit like "quirks and features" to entertain the kiddos.
@@DragonKnightX12 insane D riding again
That’s just a freely available Motomachi related video, it’s not customized for these guys. They just have foresight to include it as an educational piece because most people watching this will have no clue about the GR production line.
@@DB-sd3cw nah i like sg reviews more. They seem more professional and have more raw data in them. The only person who compares is daddy doug.
Definitely want a long term series on this car!
Dude long term comparison between this and Mark's CTR would be fantastic.
Long term, "yea the car is fine; 19k miles no issues, 25k miles on the fl5 in 5 years" smh
@@mengx94 I'd still watch it.
Same. Just a spiteful watch from me 😆
100% please do a long term on this
I would love too see you guys do a long-term ownership series on this car. I would find that to be very interesting as you do some modifications and upgrades.
Yeah I second this, I’d also love to see a deep dive comparison between the CTR and this. How does the better refinement of the CTR stack up against the more raw focused GRC.
I'll add a third to this. Mark having the CTR as a comparison point would make this a fantastic car to do an owner series on - Japanese hot hatches from the two big manufacturers, and how they hold up over time
Agreed. This is a car I’d like to buy in the future but I’ve been burned by the BRZ/FRS platform. I’d love to really see what this car is like to live with.
@@mrs_radrod being it’s built on the E210 Corolla which is a pretty great platform + the 1.6l is tried and tested, it’s probably going to be pretty great. You’ve just got to get past the part that it isn’t nearly the size of the Civic. It’s a large coupe, not a small wagon.
Once prices drop and are more readily available my 2022 XSE 6MT gets traded in lol
@@aprtur I agree Mark being an owner of a CTR would some great comparison points.
Imagine being a little kid and riding around in the back of one of these in your booster seat as your dad rips is around some backroads 😂
What dad 😢
This was exactly my thought when I saw this announced for the North American market.
I’d love to have one and pass it down to my kids so they can learn to drive properly. Will just have to last 12+ years.
As an 80s kid from the UK, small hatchbacks and country roads are what childhood memories are made of.
Bring back the useful hot hatchback market!
Yeah. You definitely need to do an ownership series.
I had a tuned 06 WRX as my daily for a few years. My 5 year old girl loved it. We live in a rural area, so a lot of back roads.
My dad
Didn’t expect you guys changed your opinion on this car. I wasn’t so excited to see more vids from you guys after watching the first drive, but after watching this one, I would say go for it. Make a long term ownership. I want to see now.
Standing in solidarity watching this Takumi masterpiece while wearing my Patagonia 🫡
Drinking a soy latte as well?
@@MrSchn3ll trying out the chai latte that goose raves about. So far I’ve been able to stay off the porcelain throne
Kirkland Signature is also approved !
Everyday my brother I have my Patagonia always in the car in my common man Corolla with my soy chai tea iced latte!
Thanks you for your service / costco membership
Even at $36k base is a tough pill to swallow. Damn, prices are just out pacing income.
@Nomen Clature It should be around $32,000.
No way you would find one for $35k.. for the base model its 50k
Toyota will sell out of this model/trim. If anything, that means it's underpriced
@@francisgomes9976 I found a few on auto trader just now listed in the 35-38k range, but most were 60k. Which is insane.
Dude, my 2022 Accord Sport 2.0T was $38k! That’s why I’m leasing it 🤣 Being a dad calls for a proper dad car but near $40k is just crazy
As a 220 pound, 6' silverback myself, I always wear my matching Patagonia pullover to live vicariously through Jack on Friday mornings. I can't wait to drive one of these. Thank you for the great breakdowns as always, it's very appreciated!
Hard to believe that a Toyota Corolla is a rare sports car that costs a small fortune
The absolute state of the automotive market.
@@Syncopia the Golf R is expensive but no one complains.
@@dragospahontu at least the Golf R has a good interior (minus the lack of physical buttons) and trajectory lines on backup cam.
@@SIIKAP1 I'll give you the trajectory lines. A backup cam with no trajectory lines is useless
Same for the civic right? Type R 40k, hell no
I would love to see a long term comparison since Mark already has a Type R. I think it would be great!
I’d love a long-term ownership video!
Yes same!
They don't own one
100% yes on the long term ownership series, especially as someone considering one as the somewhat attainable performance daily driver
Thanks for the explanation of the AWD system. Engineering Explained had a good video about it but I didn't realize how much software was controlling the bias and even switching to FWD mode for straights. Makes a lot of sense. Great stuff. I bought a core with diffs a month ago and it's a very fun car.
Even the older Evo AYC AWD system has lots of software intervention. Car would go 100% FWD in every turn multiple times to prevent understeer because the front wheels travel a larger arc than the rear wheels. This is also why differential based AWD systems, like the Subaru system always was heavily biased toward understeer. Because the system has no way of decoupling the front and rear differential.
There's another video of GR Corolla on a liftand the guy identified the rear diff as the same as the one in the RAV4, so that explains the low thermal dissipation of it compared to a more expensive and purpose designed unit they could've used instead.
@@Vermonstered **canbus not software
@@artilleryisbetter CANBus is simply the communication protocol Mitsubishi used. It's still all driven by software and why you can datalog and flash once any of these control modules are cracked.
Please share the video for us to see, thanks
Not a car for me, but the GR Corolla is the attainable [at MSRP] dream car for some others, and I hope they can obtain one. Another excellent review from Savage Geese as always.
Asked dealerships, $60k out the door
@@Carlos.Rivera my enthusiasm really shrivels in the cold water of a 60k price tag.
@@Carlos.Rivera lmfao. A recession can't come soon enough.
@@nsh1980gmail for a corolla, I pass. Would rather get a used mustang gt350
60k?!?! No thanks I have my local Toyota dealer quoting me less on a Supra 3.0 MT. 58k out the door for that. This is a specialty thing more than the GR86 and the Supra.60k is a 9k markup. You don't need to do that. You can find Toyota dealers that will do MSRP. I paid MSRP last spring for a GR86 while some dealers were trying to get 40k for it. No don't do that you will get screwed in the end big time.
One thing I like about this channel and the hosts is the ability to post reflect on experiences for what happened and change opinions based on use case. Track experience they arent so "golly wow'd" by the car or event like so many other journalists, and they can seperate their initial impressions when they get time to drive the car and change or modify or reinforce their ideas about it.; its one reason among many Savagegeese as a brand is my go to channel for new cars.
I have a GR Yaris and am a HUGE Savagegeese Fan. So I guess this is the closest I'll get to a GR Yaris review from you guys. Looking forward to watching this! 🙂
The yaris is so much cooler
you got the better car 100%, thats clearly obvious cause you dont see toyoytas rally team racing the corolla lol theyre racing the yaris, that says it all right there
If you live close to them, see if they can review your car for the channel.
@@Pumpkinfish12 the Yaris isn’t sold in North America, so that would be tricky….
@@matthewp9015 I believe it is sold in Mexico, I recall Doug Demuro doing a review of it.
I have almost 2000 miles on my GR Corolla and I have to say you guys really nailed the description of the car and engine’s character. This is a very different engine in today’s world where in most modern turbo engines, torque comes on in the low end at like 2000-2500 rpm. On the GRC you really do have to wring it out to 4000+ and when you do, the surge is satisfying. But it’s a big part of the car’s character and why it feels specials. It’s why I really enjoy mine especially on the daily drive. And when I don’t feel the need to drive like a maniac it’s very tame and feels like an NA engine outside of boost. I was also able to get 34 mpg on a 116-mi drive, so there’s that too.
A tuning box can easily resolve that. I ran a DTUK on my GR Yaris for nearly 2 years and it had a bunch more pull from low down.
I always love seeing the factory clips, reminds you of how difficult and complex these things are, and makes you appreciate the workers more
and appreciate that we don't have the 2 door Yaris gr instead of a 4 door car.
Ty jidoka slave workers
Pls do long-term ownership perspective. Comparisons with type r and sti would be cool. How is steering feel compared to the hydraulic rack on the sti. Are the controls as raw as the sti overall
It’s probably a better car overall than the STI. Subarus are pretty trash
I've got a GR yaris,the steering isn't as good as the 06 jdm sti I had previously.Overall a better car and quicker point to point though.
Last I checked Subaru doesn't sell an Impreza STI anymore...
Much love and support from Australia Mark and Jack! Keep up the good work!
Definitely do a long term ownership series of this car, would love to see how well it hold up against heat, that will be a good information for those planning to get this car and do track days.
Holy shit an ownership series would be fantastic. What better car to do it with than this? I'm really curious as to what that new high powered 3 cylinder is hiding.
What should you buy instead?
@@RageAgainstTheStreet bruh the GR Yaris has been fairly reliable
@@RageAgainstTheStreet lol They got the GR Yaris putting down 520 whp over seas, but go on and pop off like you actually know anything.
@@RageAgainstTheStreet go do your research, people with GR Yaris have been tuning them for 400+ hp reliably
@@RageAgainstTheStreet Those aren’t even stock blocks making 1k HP.
Bro new turbo bangers are making 400 Hp casually with bolt-ons, exhaust, injectors, and E85.
YES! Please do a long-term. That would be fantastic. I'm currently in a '14 FR-S - came from an '04 GTI - and I'm salivating so hard over the GR Corolla! Keep up the awesome videos guys!
I would absolutely love to have one of these GR Corollas. In a world that every car has had the driving pleasure and emotion removed, it is a blessing to see Toyota is still making cars for the enthusiast.
We'd all love to see a long term review, and an extensive comparison against the Type R, and even the WRX since it's AWD.
I used to be crazy about hot hatches, especially how juvenile they feel. Then I spent the last year driving a GR86 (in Canadian weather mind you) and now can't imagine spending money on any sporty vehicle that's not RWD and on a dedicated sportscar platform.
The 86 twins are technically based on a modified impreza chassis and I think the new one may he on a new global platform but I get your point.
Some people need the practical nature of hatches for daily life so 4 doors and hatches are sought after
@@jaybosher6144 it actually is a bespoke chassis. It uses some Subaru global platform parts but it is 100% a separate thing. The OG (which the new one is a modified version of) toyobaru is a Toyota designed chassis.
RWD snobbery is a thing. Honestly, it’s hilarious to me how RWD drivers think they got some kinda technical skill advantage on others. 😂
@@oraclemiata845 tf are you talking about? Where did I say anything about skill? Just pointing out that from my perspective RWD dynamics are more fun.
@@milesfathi RWD dynamics are definitely more fun, but nothing you're going to notice or feel on the streets in everyday driving.
Absolutely do the long term on the car!
Honestly seeing how this car lasts with hard driving fully documented would be an instant watch for me.
The things car enthusiasts do to capture the feeling of cars from a bygone era.. would love to see a long term comparison with your FL5, they just don't make em like they used to and these cars may be the last of their kind once every car is a EV or a hybrid. Thanks for making these in depth videos, even if they don't get as many views as the CUVs they're appreciated by car people
Would love to see a long term review of this one. This is one of the most exciting cars in recent years.
Do a long term ownership series please!!! I’m picking up a Morizo Edition with 5k markup the end of this month. I’d love to see y’all do a long term review so I could learn as much as I can from y’all!
I'd love to see a long term review including some fun gravel rally driving :)
This is THE car to have. Its THE daily.
I just picked up my white GR Corolla last week, after purchasing the normal XSE manual corolla hatchback after watching your video on it all those years ago. All I can say is that it’s my dream car, I bought a massive warranty with it and plan to run it into the ground. Thanks for all the content you guys do, it does make a difference even if it sometimes doesn’t feel like it
Sorry to hear that man
Can you let us know if you had to pay market adjustments / dealer addons?
@@notsodelusional no dealer add ons, I was adamant that the dealer does not touch the car other than doing a PDI code clear. I sent it off to PPF and wrap afterwards. I paid a few thousand markup and I bought a 125kmi warranty as well
im infinitely jealous and happy for you.
Planning to run a Toyota into the ground might leave you disappointed. 😆
Nah, just kidding. Toyotas are actually not as robust and reliable as people think. Couple billion years from now when the sun goes supernova, a lot of people are gonna bring their old Toyotas to the dealership and complain about overheating issues. Mark, my words.
I think your closing statements are incredibly well put. To be honest, I was between this and the ELANTRA N, and I was coming from a 2022 Corolla hatchback. Naturally the GR Corolla felt like the perfect upgrade from that car, but by the time the opportunity came for me to buy one I couldn’t stomach the price considering how much the ELANTRA offers without nearly as many compromises in terms of capacity and livability, and downgrades in interior quality and space compared to a standard XSE Corolla Hatch. Great video.
I'm always waiting for moments like this one 15:56 , thanks a lot guys for your work!
Hey I love your guys content. You guys are legitimately the only car reviewers that I actually watch. Only thing is, your description says "designed a built by Toyota" when I think you mean designed and built by Toyota. Now to finish the sandwich approach. Love you guys. You're the best thing ever.
You briefly brought up the WRX STI, I have driven a few gens of the STI and would love a comparison video of the GR Corolla VS a STI. Give a pros and cons to both and pick a winner. Great video as always
Chris Atkinson drove an STI and a GR Yaris for CarExpert about a year ago. Go check it out. The only time I've ever seen a "reviewer" (he's the 1st party rally driver for Subaru USA) handbrake turn an STI and then a Yaris.
@@ethereous awesome thanks!!!
I'd like to see it against the regular WRX as well
I considered the yaris, but decided to keep my sti. The visibility is way better in the sti, the engine sounds better, the yaris has that tablet stuck on the dash, the lane assist, start stop bs has to be turned off every time you start it.
In the end it costs more and you get more or less same performance with less character and more modern inconveniences.
Love the term “modern inconveniences”. Sometimes they just get in the way of driving.
A lot of people don't understand how good 3 cylinder engines are. I own a Yamaha mt09. It has a 847cc 3cylinder. I wouldn't have it any other way. I live in Canada and we are getting 9 GR Corollas this year. Nice car overall.
As a former 2nd gen MT-09 owner I 1000% agree. Any other motorcycle engine just doesn't cut it anymore.
Triumph speed triple here. 3 cyl gang rise up!
I miss my street triple everyday. Gotta love the soundtrack of a 3cyl.
3cyl is where the balance is at, you still get the peak power character of 4 cyl but still have the torque like 2 cyl
The best part about this car is the inline 3.
I love the sound this engine configuration makes.
Hearing you guys drive the Corolla reminds me of motorcycles like the Yamaha FZ-09 & Triumph Street Triple. Both amazing bikes, and it was only a matter of time before inline-3s would make their way into mainstream passenger vehicles, with how far turbo technology has come.
Thanks for the review, and know that I'm not opposed to a long-term review of this car, but don't spread yourself thin. The GR86, c8 z06, & CTR are already great.
At this price point, I would have hoped for a slightly better interior.
Great review as always guys.
I would absolutely love you guys to do a long-term review. It's Toyota's first stab at full in house sports car in a while, given their reputation as top dog for reliability, it would be very interesting and informative to see how things go over a longer period of time.
Especially given that from any other manufacturer, an engine like this would be viewed as a massive liability. So much boost in 3cyl. I really wanna see!
Sounds silly to say, but after having a Corolla as a rental I started to understand the appeal for the normal car. It has kinda fun! So my imagination suggests that a GR version would be fantastic! If y’all are able a long term review would be great to see, familiarizing with its more subtle quirks to learn what owning is really like.
A dude I work with has a Corolla hatch, not a GR obviously but one of the higher trim levels. It always turns my head when I walk past it in the parking lot. Damn good-looking car. Also a very safe and reliable car.
The GR version will be selling for at least 50k.
I hope you guys get to 160k subscribers soon! Hell, we all know you deserve over 1 million.
Thank you. Objective, informative as always. 👍
Yes on the ownership video! Planning to get one a few years from now, hopefully they keep making this and the market stabilizes by then.
Why blow money on an overpriced corolla when better cars are available at this price point?
@@DB-sd3cw 1. I live in Canada so we only have the Core edition. MSRP on those are not bad.
2. I was planning on buying used so hopefully they make more of them in a few years so I can get one below MSRP of Core.
3. AWD makes Canada winters a breeze. If you can recommend another modern AWD hot hatch at this price point I’d be happy to look into it.
Just go read whatever owners have to say on the forums. They actually use cars long term
A long-term review coupled with a comparison with your Civic Type-R would be excellent.
Always ready for savageeese Friday morning releases :)
Within 3 minutes in this video I've already learn news things about this car that nobody else has mentioned yet. This is why this channel is so awesome. Give it to me straight.
I own a GR Corolla and I am local in IL. Hope to see you guys around! I love my GR Corolla and it drives very similar to my Evo IX...
Any thoughts compared to an Evo X?
@@citrusjuicebox also owned a evo X, this feels stock for stock better than my old evo X.
I'd definitely like to see a long term on this one. Of the current hot hatches, the Circuit is my purchase choice.
YES! Please do an ownership series on this. Im instantly watching all of that content
Thanks guys I appreciate your time and efforts
One other body change to mention from Core to Circuit/Morizo is that it has a unique "power" bulge hood with venting that is additional body change that Jack didn't mention. Would love to see a long term series on this car.
Would love me a power bulge body change.
Yes I def wanna see a long term ownership review of this car on here!! That would be excellent!👌🏽🔥🔥
I love this car! The fact that Toyota was able to make it in this day and age is amazing. I would love to own one. This car is an instant classic for sure.
I appreciate that they transferred the clutch smell from the GR Yaris into the Corolla as well. Such character.
I’m all for this car and I hope it does well. With the hot hatch segment becoming less and less important to manufacturers (and consumers), the GR Corolla give much needed competition to the CTR and Golf R.
Great review, and I'm glad you are grounded enough to admit that with current dealer mark-ups, that the GR Corolla falls short FOR THE PRICE. I was actually going to order one, and trade in my Focus ST towards it, but I couldn't justify spending double what I paid for my used ST for a Corolla.
Was it double the price because of mark ups?
Always loved your content💪💪
Amazing Car.
Amazing Review.
Thank you so much for this.
Found it odd that the Circuit with the carbon fiber roof is heavier than the Core. Got mine for MSRP + $1300 dealer add ons (40K). Just crossed the 1K miles so the right pedal can be enjoyed. Makes me feel like I'm 63. Solid review
Congrats. Its a shame that dealers have to add their "tax" on the car.
@@richr161 The old supply and demand. I own a '91 NSX. The original owner paid 20K over list, 83K. A lot of money now, a boatload back then
The Circuit comes with all the factory options the Core offers as standard equipment, and the carbon fiber roof is not enough to offset the weight of the optionless Core.
@@LouisSubearth The weight I saw did include the locking differentials but not tech/weather
I hope this car does well in the market. Even if it's somewhat niche (and particularly at the higher trims), a good showing on this car helps make the case for more like it in the future, especially at a more attainable price point.
From all reports they're selling very well. So we'll in fact that they announced another year of the circuit and they're increasing production of the core.
It is Toyota increasing production for the demand is causing
Great video - As always !!
Just got one this past weekend, only drove it a little bit and then sent it for PPF and detailing. Please do a full series! I liked what I could experience, but it would be great to have another perspective!
We need a long termer please! Sweet sixteen open diffs!
YES please, long term ownership would be amazing
Long term review sounds great!
Love to see a long term series with this car. Especially some track stuff, particularly focused on some dual duty aspects of the car.
I appreciate how natural the engine sounds in the driving section. I am so over the obnoxious fake engine noise that sounds like playing a Forza game from 10 years ago. It's too bad it took so long for Toyota to bring a car like this to the US market. Ditto for the Type R. I don't think many people will be able to afford a car like this unless they get very lucky finding one that isn't marked up to the moon.
I couldn’t do the smaller interior of the GR due to family but it looks like a fun car to blast around in. The inevitable $40k+ after markup seems excessive. The cool part about Hot Hatches is that in the past you felt like you were beating the system by getting awesome performance at a budget price. This doesn’t feel that way unfortunately.
A series with the Corolla will be absolutely epic! There are very few cars, if any, that can combine so many driving aspects.
fantastic video! thank you!
The Focus ST had terrible heat soak too, aftermarket intercoolers fixed it, im sure there is areas of improvement as always, Toyota still tries to keep cost down at the factory at the end of the day. So its not perfect due to cost limits. But the beauty of aftermarket will fix it if you want to spend more. Im excited to see the long term potential of this chassis
I feel like a lot of car enthusiast are cross-shopping the GR Corolla with the Civic Type R as a potential daily driver. Given that Mark has the FL5, I know I personally would really appreciate having a deep dive comparison between the two with savagegeese levels of detail.
And the STI wrx previous owners
Car enthusiasts don’t drive Corollas and civics.
@@LARSENBISQUITS - not quite, considering that some of the famous rally legends are based on econoboxes (Subaru Impreza, Lancia Delta, Mitsubishi Lancer, Peugeot 205, Ford Focus).
Besides, the Civic Type R exists.
I too would enjoy a long term series. Even though I am not of the means to purchase one of these right now, I think the insights will be worth it for future generations as the sun sets on fun vehicles and fun ICE.
I love the segments where you get comments from the engineers.
I'd love to hear some thoughts on this vs the Focus RS. I had a Focus RS for about 20K miles and really liked it, but the potential engine issues worried me a little, but I do want a similar experience again someday. This seems like a pretty similar car in many ways, though the AWD system in the RS seems like it allowed a little more drift. I do like the more raw feeling and less refined ride of some hot hatches like this GR and the RS. The Type R always felt too soft to me when I've tested the FK.
Very few cars are a instant Legend. This is one of them.
PLEASE long term! Part of the charm of a car like this, is the "lack of refinement". I love driving our 05 Corolla XRS, it's stiff, it's fun
Yes! I'd love an ownership series!
Please do a long term review! Great job on a detailed review!
I agree with every sentiment and statement from both of you guys in the value and fun of this car, if you pay at MSRP it is great for each trim at that price, l believe that for this and the new Z based on your videos that dove into details on that car due to the caveats of them needing a little aftermarket to fix their shortcomings for part track enthusiasts like myself and you all, cooling for the diffs on the GR and aftermarket suspension for the Z and an upgraded trans mount for the 1st to 2nd gear grind/lockout feel.
I say this as an owner of a 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 and a 2014 big turbo track build Genesis Coupe who had both a Z and GR Corolla on reserve but backed out one dealers wanted over MSRP and compared to just keeping what I have at the prices I paid vs buying basically newer versions of the same cars, it was a no brainer
Very useful technical information from Sakamoto that improves upon known weaknesses of the GR Yaris.
Tx a million for the perfect review
Clicked on the link before I could even think about it. I've been waiting on this forever.
Me too! When I refreshed the main page and I saw this uploaded 3 minutes ago I jumped from my seat!
Would love to see a head to head with this and the type R
Was hoping you guys get a long term unit. Would be greatly appreciated 👍🏼
We just got one at my local dealership Adams Toyota Kansas City. Base edition with options (sticker is $39,500). The minimum they are going to sell it for is 10k over sticker at $50,000. Dissapointing.
Id rather get a tesla model 3 performance. For 45 after tax credit will mop the floor w this.
As a car enthusiast, I am totally turned off by the way the dealer network is handling this car. If I want to spend 60K on a car I'm not looking at a COROLLA.
Get a tesla. No pricing games.
Yeah exactly, DFW metro area is gonna get like 5 allocated in total maybe, all marked up to shit. So why even fucking bother? Cool car Toyota, it might as well not exist.
@@TeslaRoadtrips exactly why I'm considering one.
@@nomenclature9607 if you call the dealer directly they are either in production with no arrival date or presold. One dealer even said that they were going to "auction" their GR "to a charity".
@@TeslaRoadtrips I found one at MSRP. I also live in the mountains. This thing is a BLAST.
Having coverage this good on this car is so entertaining even though I can’t buy one lol, would love an ownership series on this
Great review! Lucky to own a GR Yaris Circuit Pack here in 🇬🇧 I absolutely love this homologated rally car. Bit gutted we don’t get the GR Corolla.
Morizo is the paradox that’s built to be driven but not to be owned.
I can't wait for the GR Sienna 🙂
I’m disappointed stellantis never made a hellcat minivan
In Japan you can get a GR sports Noah and Voxy. Noah and Voxy are JDM minivans.
@@electrikoptik yeah those are more of an appearance package than anything I think.
@@christophergodschalk3627The Hellcat minivan should be called the Hellspawn in reference to the kids it would carry.
🤣
Please do the long term series! My first car was a used ‘88 Corolla manual 4 door. It was slow, but I drove it in every weather condition and I learned basic driving dynamics in my appliance shitbox. I’ve had Wrxs and STIs. This is the AWD turbo Corolla of my teenage dreams. I hate that it’s so expensive, and FWD limited AWD.
You fellas are super critical (in a good way). Get one, pull it apart and see what happens under the skin when you do. You have the resources and can make it interesting. Go for it!!
Still wish we got the Yaris GR, the corolla is just not the same
What are your thoughts on Toyota's recent announcement about increasing GR Corolla production numbers, including the continuation of the Circuit Edition?
no brainer
If Toyota can 'market' aka promote this car to people dumb enough to pay $50K for it, they will increase their production volume. This is Rolex marketing. Limit supply for 'exclusivity' and pay $12K for a $500 watch.
Consumers can be big suckers.
@@lukewalker1051 Dealer markup makes money for the dealers, not Toyota
the suv videos feel like work, this one is LIFE.
I hope to be able to get one in a year or 2. I’ll be adding it to my stable alongside my Abarth 500.
I think they probably removed the center armrest because of the manual handbrake in the GR Corolla.
That’s just bad design. Plenty of other cars don’t have that issue.
@@kronikinsomniak I think the base Corolla was designed with electronic handbrake in mind. GR team probably wanted the manual handbrake but they didn't bother redesigning the center armrest.
In the fabled old times when demigods roamed the face of the Earth, cars with both armrest and manual hand brake were made.
Would explain the DIY look in that section.
Worth it😂