@@bighands69 Oh yeah, JLC, Vacheron Constantin, Piaget, Breguet, F.P. Journe, Blancpain, IWC, Vincero, there are so many brands worth considering it's just that, having seen dozens and dozens of offers from every brand, I can say without much doubt that if I could only choose a single watch to get gifted to me for "Patek money" it would definitely be an A. Lange & Söhne. I suggest you take a look (if you haven't already) at the video called "Is The Entry-Level A. Lange & Söhne Worth £13,100?" from these guys until they show the 1815 Chronograph and maybe you'll understand why. The combination of a flawless (to me) design on the face combined with the most beautiful tone on the movement called German Silver (to me) and the best possible architecture (to many) that you can achieve on a watch just gives it something more than any other brand, something different, something that makes me want to choose those watches over all others. Sorry for the long reply lel.
@@roberthartley6629 So... You wonna spend $4000 on a nice quartz watch and spend $36.000 on a nice bracelet rather than having a nice $40.000 mechanical watch? Interesting.
I just wanted to say I absolutely love your videos, just the right amount of tackiness for me. I watch your videos to help me fall asleep, they're super relaxing. Not to mention the incredible macro shots of obscure watch brands. Absolutely amazing channel.
I love the fact you don't focus on Rolex, because they do a great job of that on their own. I also find it odd that, assuming you have the money, it may actually be easier to acquire a Patek than some (stainless steel) Rolex's from an AD. Now let's face facts, if you see what's under the hood of a Patek (and especially if you watch their 16:00 video on how they perform a "standard" service) it's clearly money well justified. But if your budget is more in the Omega range (still significant money) it's nice to know there are some great options out there. Well done video.
I had this quandary last Spring. I chose the A. Lange & Söhne 1815 Up/Down in white gold. I’m happy with my choice. Of the three you show here, the GP would get my vote
The two Parmigianis in my collection are both collection-killers. I wear them a lot, and with good reason. Just as with flyback cronos, it’s the Breguet Type XXI, that’s gets the most use in my life.
I hate to be rude but how can you afford two watches that will cost at the very least 30K each and another one that costs 15K? You would have to be a millionaire. Asking for a friend who is a mere mortal.
The cinematography and the knowledge of your videos could not be improved, so you raise the bar with the script -witty, engaging, almost addictive. Thank you.
You are a artist my friend you can say anything and it sounds good this channel just keeps getting better and better and I love the little quips of sarcasm that really drive your point home just Excellent Man
Say less. A shitty basic Richard Mille costs more than an FP Journe, Laurent Ferrier, De Bethune, Urban Jürgensen, Kari Voutilainen etc. I could go all day... don't get me started on Daytona and GMT values...
The Parmigiani Fleurier Tonda Qantor is a wonderful and beautiful watch. Girard Perregaux 1966 is ok . The Chopard LUC is to simple looking and it is missing a transparent case back to admire the spectacular Geneva Seal movement.
7:31 Achivement Unlocked: Red paint properly applied. Aleluya!!! By the way, in spite of how I love Girard Perregaux and their beautiful watches, the Parmigiani won this battle.
@@Laz_Arus that would never make it past QC at Seiko in general. I have a 5 and a Presage, both with flawless dials and hands even when inspected with a lupe.
I really appreciate the way you film the watches and the vast information. I can't afford any of this watches and i doubt i ever will. But man do i love this videos
The Earth doesn't revolve around the Sun, actually. It revolves around the solar system's centre of gravity, which is slightly variable and not always exactly centred inside the Sun itself.
Can you see the scratch on the blued screw @ 2:26 & stains on the right @2:35? this is exactly why you get an ALS or Patek instead of this watch if you are looking for perfection.
I would buy a GP if i had that much money. EoT is simply a fantastic complication....one of the most important and one of the most oldest, connected to nature, Sun, Earth and Earth's orbit.
You have to adjust the date well over 4 times in a regular watch. So if the GP does not have a perpetual calendar, but does change the date, where does it fail to keep the date? I guess leap year?
Annual cal does not account for February being a short month, and must be adjusted on March 1. This has nothing to do with whether or not it’s a leap year
Three watches that are a homage to craftsmanship. There is something magical about the interplay of these ridiculously small parts slaveously yielding the time of date/night. Great clip. Thank you.
There are few things more compelling than "understated elegance". The Chopard wins, running away. It is worn by the individual who doesn't give a tinker's damn whether you know how much it cost. Intrinsic value is priceless.
They are people who are philosopher in essence and by education, you will definitely never find any in the world of politics these days but here, we have a kind of philosopher for the world of watches with an extensive knowledge delivered with a grain of humour at time. The fetichism of merchandises is at its apex with watchfinder & co.
Did you notice that the L.U. Chopard has 8 screws on the caseback all with random "moments". It is not perfect until they machine those screw and threads such that they all line up perfectly. This watch is not symmetrical on the back side.
Gerrard Perregaux. There is a regulator movement that not even Patek Philippe has touched. The constant Escapement 8 day watch. The regulator design goes all the way back to Leonardo Da Vinci blueprints. It was only until now( 2012- 2015) that Garrard Perregaux took that blueprint and miniatureized it with modern technology and put it into a watch.
Never. This instead of a PP? You'd have to be joking. The month pointer doesn't line up with the 35 minute index, in fact the whole geometry of the date window is a mess.
If I were to spend Patek money on a watch, I'd never want the flawed GP 10 o'Clock marker or a solid caseback with that Chopard. However, that Parmigiani is beautiful! If I have the cash to burn a hole in my pocket, it'll go for either the Credor Eichi II or this Parmigiani. Or, maybe both!
So you absolutely made me want that Chopard. Though Patek Philippe claims that their PP seal is of higher quality than the Geneva Seal. I don't know much about the FQF, Certified Haute Horlogerie certification but that's another one I guess? also the chronometer and the chronofiable certifications are used. how do these different quality stamps compare to each other? Do they adjust their standards over time to make it more exclusive?
As a Patek owner, as much as these watches are lovely, I would still buy my Patek. That exclusivity and brand awareness will open doors others can't and you still get to revel in the knowledge you own something others will try to explain away as they buy less expensive watches.
The LUC movement is not hidden behind an impenetrable invisibility shield. Isn't there anyone at Watchfinder & Co. brave enough to carefully twiddle a screwdriver? I, for one, would dearly like to take a peek inside.
Let's play a game "What would you be willing to pay for these watches?", I start. GP: 6000£ LUC: 4000£ Parmigiani: 8000£ Since you probably don't know what they cost (I don't know what they are asking) without looking it up I think it makes for an interesting game :)
Does the GP go to and from British Summer Time and, if so, what would happen if Britain dropped the hour change? Would it require a recalibration from GP?
Feeling smug knowing the England team won the Cricket World Cup earlier this year. Why feel smug you ask? Well, because looking at the final scoreboard you can't really tell.
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These are fantastic watches, especially that Parmigiani, gorgeous but... If I had Patek money I would still go for, you guessed it, a Lange.
What about JLC?
@@bighands69 Oh yeah, JLC, Vacheron Constantin, Piaget, Breguet, F.P. Journe, Blancpain, IWC, Vincero, there are so many brands worth considering it's just that, having seen dozens and dozens of offers from every brand, I can say without much doubt that if I could only choose a single watch to get gifted to me for "Patek money" it would definitely be an A. Lange & Söhne. I suggest you take a look (if you haven't already) at the video called "Is The Entry-Level A. Lange & Söhne Worth £13,100?" from these guys until they show the 1815 Chronograph and maybe you'll understand why. The combination of a flawless (to me) design on the face combined with the most beautiful tone on the movement called German Silver (to me) and the best possible architecture (to many) that you can achieve on a watch just gives it something more than any other brand, something different, something that makes me want to choose those watches over all others.
Sorry for the long reply lel.
Or a more accurate quartz watch at 1/10th of the price. and spend money on a nice bracelet
@@roberthartley6629 So... You wonna spend $4000 on a nice quartz watch and spend $36.000 on a nice bracelet rather than having a nice $40.000 mechanical watch? Interesting.
Robert Hartley would rather spend on a cheapie quartz with a solid pure gold bracelet
*Geneva Seal awarded movement
*Solid caseback
Wtf Chopard
more platinum
That called confident arrogance... You know, just the thing that dirty rich people are attracted to.
Then you open it and behold! Seiko NH35...
@@kamehamehajim ha! That is a great movement, though. Serviced just about anywhere for almost nothing.
The service for a seiko costs the same as any other similar movement. At least on my bench.
Some people can look with pride at their Geneva Seal watch; the rest of us, well, we just have to be proud of our Bronze Swimming Award (1993).
hey man i beat all but two of the other third graders to get that thing
Hmm I have a gold from 1993. Someone’s gotta win 🥇
Yeah just work hard and you also get a watch like this. Just kidding, get money from your dad.
I got 'o' level welsh, grade v piano, and 10m swimming badge. I like to think I'd have got more if I'd done them seperately.
Thats the key... "it's the little moments" from time to time during the day when you look at the time on your wrist
That Chopard movement is special. While I appreciate the platinum back, I'd love to have a crystal on the back to see the movement.
I just wanted to say I absolutely love your videos, just the right amount of tackiness for me. I watch your videos to help me fall asleep, they're super relaxing. Not to mention the incredible macro shots of obscure watch brands. Absolutely amazing channel.
I love the fact you don't focus on Rolex, because they do a great job of that on their own. I also find it odd that, assuming you have the money, it may actually be easier to acquire a Patek than some (stainless steel) Rolex's from an AD. Now let's face facts, if you see what's under the hood of a Patek (and especially if you watch their 16:00 video on how they perform a "standard" service) it's clearly money well justified. But if your budget is more in the Omega range (still significant money) it's nice to know there are some great options out there. Well done video.
I would go for the Girard-Perregaux 1966 Annual Calendar Equation of Time. The EoT complication is rarely offered nowadays.
And yet, despite the Geneva Seal and just 25 pieces made, Chopard managed to leave a piece of dust on the seconds hand 😭😭
Oh my...😆
now i can't unsee it
Definitely, my favorite watch channel.
I had this quandary last Spring. I chose the A. Lange & Söhne 1815 Up/Down in white gold. I’m happy with my choice. Of the three you show here, the GP would get my vote
Great choice. None of those 3 beats an A. Lange & Söhne. At least in my eyes.
A.Lange is unmatched. Congrats!
David B I got the RG version. I had a Parmigiani Tonda a few years back, and I do think they’re underrated, but ALS is different league.
kept hearing Geneva Seal while looking at that awful engraving on the LUC caseback...
That shot of the case back of the GP, with the rotor shifting was exquisite. The lighting was excellent
If thats dust on the dial and second hand on the Chopard, its definitely not worth the Geneva seal
New game, drink a shot every time the narrator says "The Geneva Seal"
It can't be that baasddsksmsnznamaa
getting my stomach pumped rn
Ah come on it was only 8 times in rapid succession
"Hiccup... The Genevaaaaaa Hiccup"
7 shots 😂
The two Parmigianis in my collection are both collection-killers. I wear them a lot, and with good reason. Just as with flyback cronos, it’s the Breguet Type XXI, that’s gets the most use in my life.
I hate to be rude but how can you afford two watches that will cost at the very least 30K each and another one that costs 15K? You would have to be a millionaire. Asking for a friend who is a mere mortal.
Great tips. Search, located, found the Parm, $14,000. Now ALL mine!
The cinematography and the knowledge of your videos could not be improved, so you raise the bar with the script -witty, engaging, almost addictive. Thank you.
I like changing the date every other month, so I don’t forget how to do it.
I'd like to see some modern high end peices from ulysse nardin
You are a artist my friend you can say anything and it sounds good this channel just keeps getting better and better and I love the little quips of sarcasm that really drive your point home just Excellent Man
When you consider that the Parmigiani Tonda is available for less than a Rolex GMT the watch World really is on it’s head..,
Say less. A shitty basic Richard Mille costs more than an FP Journe, Laurent Ferrier, De Bethune, Urban Jürgensen, Kari Voutilainen etc. I could go all day... don't get me started on Daytona and GMT values...
You need to include the prices for every watch you review so some perspective can be added.
GP: around 27k Euros
Chopard: around 20k
Parmigiani: 12k-16k
4:33 The Chopard caseback is being held on with panhead screws from Home Depot.
All awesome choices, but with PP money, I'd go for a Breguet Type XXI and pocket the rest. Or, if I HAD to spend all of it, I'd go for the Perregaux.
When I see a video from Watchfinder, I always click on ¨Like¨ before see it. It´s was never a gamble.
Diego B ok thanks
Yes but my 80's Casio digital watch has dual time and a chronometer, oh and a backlight...
Yea, but it isn't a piece of art...
Renax the Man in 200 years it will be
I would be if there was an apocalypse.
Chronometer?
Oh yeah! GP over a Patek anytime!
That Parmigiani timepiece is stunning!
Yes!
Yup
You can just call it a 'watch'.
So glad to see an Equation of Time watch! Peak watch nerdery.
The PF brand is quickly becoming one of my faves. The few I've seen have all been stunning.
Patek is Patek, Chopard is Chopard, Parmigiani is Parmigiani. No need to compare, each brand is unique and has its perks.
I love this guy's creative way of speaking and subtle humor.
The Parmigiani Fleurier Tonda Qantor is a wonderful and beautiful watch. Girard Perregaux 1966 is ok . The Chopard LUC is to simple looking and it is missing a transparent case back to admire the spectacular Geneva Seal movement.
"Like looking at your watch and feeling smug that you didn't have to change the date yourself" 😂😂 something I would definitely do
I would spend more time admiring it and being smug, than it would take to do it manually. By a factor of a thousand or so...
Thank You for consistent wonderful content.
7:31 Achivement Unlocked: Red paint properly applied.
Aleluya!!!
By the way, in spite of how I love Girard Perregaux and their beautiful watches, the Parmigiani won this battle.
But it's not. Left side of the crescent there is a blemish that looks like a piece of debris sticking though the red paint.
@@bradarsenault6984 Came here to comment on the same observation. That would never make it past Q.A. at Grand Seiko !
@@Laz_Arus I find it extremely funny and disappointing that only few companies can get this right. Grand Seiko being one of them.
@@Laz_Arus that would never make it past QC at Seiko in general. I have a 5 and a Presage, both with flawless dials and hands even when inspected with a lupe.
Brad Arsenault was going to say the same thing 🧐
I really appreciate the way you film the watches and the vast information. I can't afford any of this watches and i doubt i ever will. But man do i love this videos
The Earth doesn't revolve around the Sun, actually. It revolves around the solar system's centre of gravity, which is slightly variable and not always exactly centred inside the Sun itself.
Fair enough. But barycenter or sun as center is arguing semantics on a video about watches. Lol
Can you see the scratch on the blued screw @ 2:26 & stains on the right @2:35? this is exactly why you get an ALS or Patek instead of this watch if you are looking for perfection.
G.P. & Parmagani look very good for sure & the price may make it a get. Nice reveiw. Thanx. P.S.
Please review a Urban Jürgensen. Any Urban Jürgensen.
That L.U. Chopard looks nice and modest.
3:53 That was one impressive use of maths!
The seriousness with this guy’s voice makes his jokes even better
title should be “some pretty good pieces we just can’t seem to move”
I would buy a GP if i had that much money. EoT is simply a fantastic complication....one of the most important and one of the most oldest, connected to nature, Sun, Earth and Earth's orbit.
You have to adjust the date well over 4 times in a regular watch.
So if the GP does not have a perpetual calendar, but does change the date, where does it fail to keep the date? I guess leap year?
Annual cal does not account for February being a short month, and must be adjusted on March 1. This has nothing to do with whether or not it’s a leap year
I still want a Patek Philippe please.
The reason why I love watching your watches because of apple watch
Three watches that are a homage to craftsmanship. There is something magical about the interplay of these ridiculously small parts slaveously yielding the time of date/night. Great clip. Thank you.
With that level of quality videography and nice voice, this guy could make a Timex look like a luxury item :)
There are few things more compelling than "understated elegance". The Chopard wins, running away. It is worn by the individual who doesn't give a tinker's damn whether you know how much it cost. Intrinsic value is priceless.
ALS 1815 white gold (used) or VC Fifty Six Day Date (new)?
All these great watches AND a discworld reference! Awesome video as always.
They are people who are philosopher in essence and by education, you will definitely never find any in the world of politics these days but here, we have a kind of philosopher for the world of watches with an extensive knowledge delivered with a grain of humour at time. The fetichism of merchandises is at its apex with watchfinder & co.
And now I know why I always pictured you as a Pratchett person. That's proper.
The 1966 is the pick for me...as if... Another one to add is the Ulysse Nardin Freak.
Did you notice that the L.U. Chopard has 8 screws on the caseback all with random "moments". It is not perfect until they machine those screw and threads such that they all line up perfectly. This watch is not symmetrical on the back side.
Gerrard Perregaux. There is a regulator movement that not even Patek Philippe has touched. The constant Escapement 8 day watch. The regulator design goes all the way back to Leonardo Da Vinci blueprints. It was only until now( 2012- 2015) that Garrard Perregaux took that blueprint and miniatureized it with modern technology and put it into a watch.
I dont understand why GP doesnt make 36 vph watches anymore. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. That chopard is a total ripoff.
The GP is gorgeous
I wish more watch channels would discuss the RGM watches out of Lancaster, PA. I adore those and would like to learn more about them.
69johndz Travel to PA. (It’s a nice trip) RGM offerS a tour of their watch making facilities.
Most people watching this think Haute Horology is a Rolex Hulk.. and a Geneva Seal is something found in Lake Lurcerne...
Never. This instead of a PP? You'd have to be joking. The month pointer doesn't line up with the 35 minute index, in fact the whole geometry of the date window is a mess.
Or you save even more and get even better quality and finish with a Grand Seiko.
I love GP and have two in my collection, but this looks like a Frederique Constant
What seal does it have?
It's more than four times a year that I adjust the date on my watches, five to be precise.
Ooo that Parmigiani... amazing quote: “what you can achieve when you are not old and boring”... kkkk
If I were to spend Patek money on a watch, I'd never want the flawed GP 10 o'Clock marker or a solid caseback with that Chopard. However, that Parmigiani is beautiful! If I have the cash to burn a hole in my pocket, it'll go for either the Credor Eichi II or this Parmigiani. Or, maybe both!
Fuck that. If I’ve got Patek money I’m getting an A. Lange & Sohne
Who would watch youtube when they can afford such a watch for 250.000
So you absolutely made me want that Chopard. Though Patek Philippe claims that their PP seal is of higher quality than the Geneva Seal. I don't know much about the FQF, Certified Haute Horlogerie certification but that's another one I guess? also the chronometer and the chronofiable certifications are used. how do these different quality stamps compare to each other? Do they adjust their standards over time to make it more exclusive?
Who knows really.. It might be Patek pulling some pr stunt and parading their seal as superior for more intrigue
OMG Terry Pratchett reference :)
I saw at least 3 imperfections in the close ups ... Not sure Patek would have the same issues
As a Patek owner, as much as these watches are lovely, I would still buy my Patek. That exclusivity and brand awareness will open doors others can't and you still get to revel in the knowledge you own something others will try to explain away as they buy less expensive watches.
Considering what these watches cost, those small blems on the close-ups, drive me crazy.
As always, a great and informative video, but the Discworld reference made my day.
"Bronze swimming certificate" Who knew you were a "boy from the dwarf". #reddwarf #rimmer #smeghaed
We need a video with 3-4 watches with Geneva seal!
The LUC movement is not hidden behind an impenetrable invisibility shield. Isn't there anyone at Watchfinder & Co. brave enough to carefully twiddle a screwdriver? I, for one, would dearly like to take a peek inside.
1:49
lots of imperfections..How many can you spot ?
GP is a Badass company.
Great video but I Liked for the Terry Pratchett reference.
A lot of dust on the dial unlike GS
Let's play a game "What would you be willing to pay for these watches?", I start.
GP: 6000£
LUC: 4000£
Parmigiani: 8000£
Since you probably don't know what they cost (I don't know what they are asking) without looking it up I think it makes for an interesting game :)
They all have terrible resale value, whatever the retail price take 70% off, that what I would pay.
I'd wear that Girard-Perregaux all day long, but he Chopard and Parmigiani just aren't appealing to me.
They are all really nice high end watches not sure they are exactly in the PP range though.
Patek Phillipe or as it's known in the streets, "Paddy Phil"
And would also like to have the GP003 Equation of Time.
Love the Disk World, Great A'Tuin reference..
Sweet jesus I’m in love with that LUC. Time to sell my house and some of my guns I suppose.
and your wife if she has any mileage left on her:))))
I really love these hands but they’re so hard to find 3:42
Does the GP go to and from British Summer Time and, if so, what would happen if Britain dropped the hour change? Would it require a recalibration from GP?
Those fake blued screws on the GP really annoyed me. The other two watches were interesting though
I really like Jaquet-Droz. Excellent quality at an excellent price.
What are the prices for these?
What were they thinking casing up a Geneva Seal movement behind a solid back? It may as well have an ETA/Sellita for all intents and purposes.
Feeling smug knowing the England team won the Cricket World Cup earlier this year. Why feel smug you ask? Well, because looking at the final scoreboard you can't really tell.