Lost on the Ozark Trail, Mark Twain National Forest
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2014
- Bob, Billy Joe, Eric,Torie and I just got back from an awesome week at Mark Twain National Forest, Missouri, USA. Thank you Bob for selecting the location, pre-work and maps. This is the first of several episodes on our adventure. The survival situation shown in this video was real. It was not a reenactment. Enjoy!
This adventure demonstrated several key learnings: 1) Everyone should have a map and compass, 2) Don't go off-trail unless less you must. Shortcuts are often not short-cuts. 3) Everyone should stay together, 4) Develop contingencies (water sources for example) before starting the hike.
See Billy Joe’s ( / billyjoedenny ) and Bob’s ( / bob808knight ) channels for other videos on the adventure.
Videography by Ken Kramm 21-22 September 2014; Canon Vixia HFG10, Final Cut Pro X. "Eyes Gone Wrong" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 creativecommons.org/licenses/b... Direct Link: incompetech.com/music/royalty-.... - บันเทิง
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Awesome job ken I personally know how much video footage you shot. You could have made a full length movie with all that. I have to say if I was truly lost in the wood you and Billy Joe would be the two people I would like to have by my side. Between the three of us we could survive anything. I truly had a great time. But only regrets was it was not long enough. There's so much to explore up there we will have to go back someday.the Oven works great! Yes I couldn't wait to try it out lol. I haven't tried out the distiller yet.win I get a chance to go back out in to the field I will. Yep there will be a video on both of them. Hey Billy Joe I really did enjoy your golden rod. Lol I can't wait for this spring meet up... Especially since we will be spending the night in the cave. I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of people there this year. I'll talk to you soon brother. Have a great evening.
Great video guys looks like it was a good time after all !
atb john
Awesome video Ken. Thanks for keeping it real. No three people better to be lost with than you guys. I have to say Billy Joe didn't look like a happy camper at first. I all worked out good in the end. Looking forward to the next video. Thanks for sharing. Atb. Robert
A good survival situation every now and then keeps things interesting! Glad you guys found the map and found some water though...looking forward to the second part KennethKramm!
It's so awesome to see good friends hiking. I recall the videos from when Bob, Ken and Billy Joe first met one another. And now, they are friends that would, in a pinch, lay their lives down for one another. It's the power to the internet. Thanks for sharing, hombres.
coolkayaker1 This was an awesome trip. We laughed and learned together. Great guys!
Glad you guys are all ok. I loved the way everyone stayed calm, took a break at a crucial decision time and concentrated on the important hydration issue. Cheers!
Great vid Kenneth, was a joy to watch :-) Cheers, Marc
Awesome video. Perfect example of how to stay calm, keep a sense of humor and get a plan when things don't go as expected. You guys are great! Wish I had been lost with you. I won't miss any future trips!
it sure pays to take all the video shots ken,,we can share the great times we had on the ozark trail..and you did a awesome job with the video..i really enjoy getting together with friends and having adventures in the beautiful forest we have ...thanks for being great friends,,i have already shared the oven idea and cooked for friends here at home. thanks for the awesome gift ken...until next time,,peace ken..
..bill
Nice adventure!
I really enjoy these longer videos, good job Ken and thank you!
We got lost out there ALL day. Ran out of water, saw some cows and wild horses. Finally located one of the rivers and traveled up stream til we found our way out. It was 7 in the evening when we got back. My mare was so happy she pooped in the river while she was drinking. There were ppl floating down this river on tubes and my horse was pooping and the gelding tried to lay down. It was 98 that day, and I feel fortunate to have made it out.
Gee I swear I could smell that upside down pineapple cake! That was a very fun video and I enjoyed it! You guys are great at winging it!
karenchakey You don't know how good the upside down pineapple cake was! Even though it was made with filtered and boiled pond water! This little oven works GREAT. Always smiling and learning how to "wing it" from Bob.
Great video Ken! Staying calm in a survival situation is crucial, and you guys made it look like a walk in the park! Take care, David.
great footage Ken!awesom video!
I've watched yours and Bob's version of this trip now. Both are very good and fun to watch. *__*
Thanks Danny
Three ol' boys lost in the wilderness. What fun! Glad to see you found the map again.
Noel
***** Yep. Three kids lost in the woods. We had a blast!
Enjoyed the video. It was fun to watch. Glad you all found the map.
Lets plan a week on a lake with only breakfast and lunch rations. When I was a kid, me, my father and four of his friends did just that. The cabin was at the end of a drop off point, just a step or two off the float of a DeHavilland DHC-2 Beaver. We had to catch our dinner for a week and that's exactly what we did. I will never forget that experience. Sadly, 3 of those 6 are now gone. I remember them in their prime.
Another Great Video Adventure!
Kowpoke Kev Thanks Kowpoke Kev~
Man good times! I have a feeling theres more to this broke back story :-)
Glad I finally found the time to watch, looked like a lot of fun!
PitFireOutdoors We had a blast. Bob's humor is outrageously funny and is certainly different from my naive, reserved self. This added to the playful, fun time that all of us had throughout the entire camping trip. (I had to look up the meaning of what was he said at the campfire in the "urban dictionary" to understand the joke.). The final episode from this week-long camping trip has just been uploaded to TH-cam.
Fascinating!!!
disco07 Thanks!
Great video guys, I enjoyed watching...looks like you guys had a nice time and that oven is awesome... Bob808Knight is quite the character on the trail, glad you found the map on your way out! Billy Denny good job on the Goldenrod tea!
Great video!
Enjoyed very much, good fun companions and adventure Ken :)
***** Thanks Frederick
Went up there 10 years ago for the big Eminence trail ride. Took 2 horses and my 2 kids. We left in our own with a map and water at 6 in the morning.
Great video Ken. Lots of laughs.
jhiestand1 We're still laughing!
fun stuff. I have been to the Ozarks and the mark twain cave. cool stuff.
This is good stuff dude.
Nice video. You all keep your cool and got it done.
Awesome video! I was genuinely worried about you guys being lost. Glad it turned out well. Brilliant, as always.
DonnyOutdoors Thanks Donny.
Soooooooo Much Fun!!! Loved it!
God Bless You Ken : ) GRG7
+GreenRiver Girl7 (GreenRiverGirl7) Thanks for watching. We had a blast. We just got back from a 5 day camping trip with the same folks. Check out the video, with you have a chance. This time I carried the map. ATB, Ken
"We're going to wing it from here on out....' Oh crud! I hate 'winging' it! LOL Thanks for an awesome video!
sjohnson1776 Big smile! Thanks!
looks like nice adventure.
Always allitle extra exciting in a survival situation. That cake sure looked good!
Calle Estberger We had a blast. And the cake was the best ever!
Thanks fellas. Nice cake!
You're welcome, disco 07. I was surprised how well the cake turned out. ...ken
I really wish I was there. it just looked like fun and I love getting lost. it just makes it fun.
Survive Without You would have had a blast! We weren't totally lost.... just a little disoriented. The pond wasn't in the location shown on the map....
great video Ken! looks like a fun trip. I need to come to the next meet up
That does it, I'm going backpacking this weekend.
***** Awesome~
Great video, thanks for sharing you three make a great team! Three Amigos.
***** You're welcome, Teo!
excellent.
3b camping&bushcraft Thanks!
Man you guys ahad a great time.
Jason Fishaholic Schneider We laughed the whole time!~
Good work guys. Looking forward to the next part.You should maybe consider taking dehyrated water tablets with you! I once told a friend who was new to outdoor kayaking/camping trips to get some as not a lot of space to carry water and she actually went to an outdoor shop and asked for them!! We still laugh about it , but wouldn't they be great. Cheers Mary
Ken this one was great,your vids always make me smile. If you and your friends can get lost anybody can. Thanks great vid ATB ps good thing you had the Bear with you
chris knevil Thanks Chris. We had a blast. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Good to see the sawyer filter being used. Have only just add this to my pack.
Australian Survivalist The sawyer is my favorite filter.
I don,t quite know what say or what to think about this vid. You all had fun and that's what counts! I've hiked all over the Ozarks and one thing everyone learns is that most designated trails follow ridgelines "easier walking" but water up there is hard to find. I use topo maps, stay away from designated trails, stay more in the valleys "usualy a stream or river is down there" and "more wildlife. Keep on Keepin on!
Ozark River Rat We had a lot of fun and learned from each other! Thanks for watching and commenting, Ozark River Rat!
Hi Bob ; Ken and Billy Joe. The three great adventurers !!
It is fun to watch you guys working together. It would be neat to see one of you using the GPS and another with a Compass/map, for comparison.It is interesting to note that the electronics are not as great in the bush, as in the modern world.
But we are not worried..cause you got Ken with you, he knows the big bush good..lol
2:32 is that a turtle or tortoise? That stopping & talking to the woods inhabitants..is true Bushcraft manners. Just hope you don't be like that with a bear..lol
6:53 I wonder if you could climb a tree and have a better look around ? that's what I would try to get my land location.
9:25 Any Frogs in there to eat?
Great Hammock Set ups you all three have.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned for more adventure... 2:32: Answer is as follows: A division of reptiles called chelonia includes turtles, tortoises and terrapins. For the most part, the difference between a turtle and a tortoise is more of a matter of semantics than a strict scientific separation. Colloquially, both biologists and laypeople use the word "turtle" to mean all chelonians. In general, the reptiles referred to as turtles live in or near the water and have adapted to swim by holding their breath underwater. The reptiles referred to as tortoises typically live primarily in arid regions and are built for storing their own water supply and walking on sandy ground.
From a biological perspective, a tortoise is a kind of a turtle, but not all turtles are tortoises. Tortoises occupy their own taxonomic family, called testudinidae.
Omg..that is some interesting vocabulary. wow. So tortoise gets 2 points and turtle is one point..lol
Kanzee that would be a box turtle as commonly called. Judging from the marking, most likely the "ornate" variety. They make good pets, but in most of the Ozarks, the ornate is a protected species.
lol. hey Ken, I believe you was getting a lil worried brother!! looks like you guys had a great time! but hey you looked really really worried when bob was talking about licking palms and going in the hammock! lmao!! Glad you guys made it back ok. atb. Tony
robo hiker I didn't understand what Bob was saying when he talked about licking his palms and going to the tent. Weird humor; but he thinks it's really funny. You notice I just smiled. In the next video (to be uploaded soon) we put our tent/hammock across the river from each other.
Hilarious! Great vid!
XDteethdoctor Thanks. We had a blast. Happy Thanksgiving, Ken
My current cell phone has pre-downloaded state maps. I have a solar charger for it just in case. Luckily I haven't needed to use it yet! But having high resolution maps to zoom in and out of would be a real boon to anyone lost, you can identify terrain features easily even in the absence of GPS. Good thing you guys weren't in the Texas Desert when looking for water! It is much easier to get lost in the forest though.
Melvin Wei Excellent idea to pre-downloads maps. Great suggestion! I will remember this tip!
wow...you were close to my home town of St Louis! Great wilderness in that part of Missouri.
Lots of ticks though ;)
We were fortunate to not discover ticks! Great adventure!
Fun ! Wish I was there too.
Brad Cox Thanks Brad. We had a blast!
Fantastic video Ken! It was great to see you guys out there enjoying nature as well as one another's company.
Ken
'morning, 'Wingit Brothers; what a hoot this 1 was. never a dull moment & 2 boot It's all Down Hill From Here On ! L O L
Thanks 4 sharing the experience with us here, Brothers. Stay Safe & Well There.
Happy Trails From The Maritimes In Canada ATB Terry
" GOD BLESS "
T.W. Milburn
We had more fun than you could imagine! Learned and laughed for four days!
KennethKramm That's what it's all 'bout !
Ken, please show that candle that you had by your hammock. I seam home made and very interesting.
Alejandro A Yes. In a future video, I will show details on how to make and use the kerosene candle that I showed.
It's moments like that I carry 3 maps with me in various bags. That being said, I still get lost.
Ok Bob, how did you loose the map? Nice one Bob!! Lost in the ozarks what could be worse? So glad you all had fun and you survived. Wonderful video. Thank you.
+Monica Jones He keeps the map in a space between his ALICE backpack and the backpack from. The map "blew out" from the location.... Sure glad we found it..... ....ken
Me too. I want you to be able to make more videos. I love your stuff
Thanks for sharing that Ken! It is a valuable lesson to all that shows just how easy it is to get lost, even by experienced woods folk! Great video and a delight to watch!
Great hammock set up and do you find that the pad keeps you warm enough on the ground than in the hammock? It certainly would cure the shifting around of the pad as you move at night.
Jacqueline Schwartz My approach to a hammock is a cross between a traditional hammock and a tent. For me, it is very comfortable.
And this is why I never bother with GPS. And why no matter how many people say they have a map... I make sure I bring my own. I don't carry a lot of water myself, but thats because where I am, water is always easy to find and filter so theres not a need to carry much. Where you guys seem to be, I'd be the guy carrying 2-2qt canteens, and a couple water bottles. lol. Great video, and keeping a good attitude in a bad situation.
shadowstalker130666 From now own, I will always bing a personal copy of the map. I was the only one (of the three of us) who had a compass ....I carried two. Each of us had two water bottles, but we should have had more. Live and learn; having fun all the time..... ATB, Ken
Damnit Bob
Lol
You should always carry two compasses, and two maps. Two= one, one= none. But we all know that Bob is a veritable Daniel Boone, so there's never any need to worry :-}
Ted
seattwa Yep! Fully agree....
KennethKramm I was only kidding :-} Sometimes the most usefull videos are the ones where things don't go exactly as planned. Just like the real world. Some people would edit that kind of stuff out.
Ted
catching up on my KKramm vids :)
Thanks for watching!
that wuz phun fer sher :D
good thing you had bear with you ken!
smd482000 I always need a good pillow~
Interesting contrast of events compared to Bobs video. I had to laugh as Bob reminded me of me as I got 12 of us lost in a forest last January. Great record of this hike Ken and a good learning curve in many ways. What were the chances of Bob finding the map? Great video Ken
Sinclair Fergus Smith Oh yes, Bob added a completely dimension!
Kept reminding me of the Blair Witch Project. Perfect video for the month of October :P
That oven works great where did you get the spoon fork.
Enjoyed the video men, I'd like to join up. I live in West Plains, ever hear of the place?
I suspect there was some head shaking going
on when Darby watched this, lol. Being "lost"
is not fun when the sun is going down.
Yeah there was! But because they wanted me to be lost with them......lol
Nice ....never trust a gps alone :-)
I don't; that's why I always carry two compasses. And from now on, I'll make sure that I personally carry a map.
I don't think I've ever seen that oven before. Did you make a vid about it?
Yes, the oven is my original design. Several videos on my channel describe it's construction. See for example: Bake Bread in a Cardboard Oven, so easy a bear can do it
I was in Hercules Glades last January. Chadwick, MO. Bad idea to depend on a car GPS system.
Spc2006 Yep~ Learning the hard way!
you kids are a hoot lol ';o)
how is the sky at night there? According to the dark sky association it's one of the darkest places in the midwest. Planning to hang there in april.
boysattva Dark sky when we camped. Brilliant!
Any plans for another ozark trail trip?
i know what lost is back in 1989 before gps and cell phone me and a buddy were lost down there in mark twain forest for 3 days and could have died we just got lucky and a few hikers spotted our fire and came over to tell us theres no fires alowed in the forest so we followed them out of the woods to the parking lot the bugs messed us up
Hey guys I'd love to do some renegade camping out in the Mark Twain National forest. Are ypu allowed to start fires, build shelters from local trees, hunt using primitive traps? I'd really appreciate it if you would let me know! as it would help me on my search for such a location. Thanks !
+Aleks Yatskevich Check with local regulations. Fires yes, if no fire ban. dead wood removal ok, trapping/hunting see rules and times of year where permitted.
hey awesome vid by the way what is the name of that kerosene lamp/lantern thanks
mark kalwa Hi Mark. The kerosene lamp was gifted to me from Billy Joe. He mad it from a plumbing expansion tube with a screw top on the end. It is filled with kerosene and a wick is inside. It will burn for many hours. I plan to do future TH-cam on how it is made. Ken
KennethKramm seems a lot like the uco oil insert i have but its a great diy project thanks again
Lost in the woods. I do not trust GPS. It seems my battery goes dead or I lose signal. I like my map and compass. Only works if I do not lose map. I was on a lake a few years ago and Gps went out and I got lost. Lucky someone gave me directions.
You make me smile James. I also don't trust GPS and feel safer with traditional methods. By the way, after this experience, I now always carry my own copy of the map. ATB, Ken
KennethKramm Thanks
what part of the Mark Twain National Forest were you hiking in?
Marble Creek Section of the Ozark Trail.
I highly recommend Buford Mt. Conservation Area. It may be a difficult hike but well worth the effort.
ozark bushcraft Thanks for the suggestion. We will check it out!
awesome Thanks
Peace Please :)
Greg Hinze You're welcome, Greg. Peace. Ken
How did he lose a huge map like that?
Sandy Lewis Good question. Bob kept the map in a space between his backpack and his back. The map just slipped out of this space.
How's Ken today?
Thanks for asking Robert. Happy ken...
You know an area is healthy if there are reptiles and amphibians present ;)
LOL I laughed when Bob came back from scout.. funny guys. Great idea on oven - edit I may add that off color jokes with you in them feel like a slap in the face- Kind of like if Mr. Rogers did them.. just some feedback not trying to be a Jerk or anything
Vx777infonetThanks for commenting.
You guys were never lost you just didn't know where you're at
Yep.... just disoriented...