How Lebron James Can PASS Michael Jordan as GOAT of The NBA!
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In today's video, we discuss Lebron James and his NBA legacy in comparison to the GOAT, Michael Jordan. Now, I think it is possible for Lebron James to end his NBA career with a greater overall legacy than Michael Jordan. I detail the reasons why in the video, so before you comment hate, watch it and let me know what you think!
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Lebron is chasing the ghost in Chicago
Brian Scalabrine
He will never chase me.
Brian Scalabrine shut up
you mean catch
Steph Curry The G.O.A.T dumb name
Kyle Cox dumb name
Mike Korzemba is gonna have his own show on espn very soon.
Mike Korzemba > Stephen A Smith
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hi goat
Chris Smith he should tbh
THE GOAT HAS ANSWERED
I understand why people argue between lebron and jordan but i will never understand how some people say kobe is better than lebron
what a joke
TheGodfather441 he is tho..
Facts, Kobe's just better. Mike is ignorant for thinking Lebron's getting another ring.
+Wreckless “VanishingQueef” Gerald Kobe has a 6-16 record against Lebron in head to head games
Wreckless Gerald but he will tho he has at least 8 or more years he can get the two of he plays how he is capable of
wow gerald and mobile are exactly what im talking about, complete idiots
No mention of MJ's 10 scoring titles and DPOY.
no mention of lebron leading the league in minutes twice, and beat MJs career assists record by 2000 assists with 8 years left to go, and 1 more mvp to tie MJ
what do u mean 8 years and u say he wont get one? like mike said the nba can change within secs dont think ahead of ur self lol
jp3813 I’m from the future and LeBron will get 35k+ points, 9,000+ast, and 10,000+reb which has never been done...
@@mrsweatasian lets not forget his turnovers
jp3813 goes to show how harder Lebrón era is
Doesn't Matter, neither of them are better than me.
Btw, Michael Jordan might have the more accomplished career, but Lebron is better because he is more versatile than Jordan.
Brian Scalabrine 💯💯
Brian Scalabrine This is my 2nd account.
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lol no
I honestly belive Kareem is one of the most underrated players ever. People barely mention him as a GOAT possibilty or top 5 player. Dude litteraly had an unstoppable shot,
1st all time points in NBA history,
1st total minutes played,
1st total field goals,
2nd games played,
3rd total blocks,
4th total rebounds,
1st win shares,
1st offensive win shares,
3rd defensive win shares,
6x NBA Champion,
6x NBA MVP,
19x All-Star,
2x Finals MVP,
2x Championships as a coach.
FAXX
he has the one move in NBA history thats unstoppable. The Skyhook. However, A. at the lakers he wasnt the number 1 guy it was magic B. in his prime Lakers Shaq was more of a force and a better player than Kareem and C. he doesnt have the athleticism that some of the nba big men have these days
Tristan Turners Good points but Kareem didnt team up with magic till his 10th season. Kareem was strong enought to battle Wilt Chamberlin, at the age of 59 Wilt could bench press 465 pounds, more than prime Shaq could, Wilt blocked a guy and dislocated his shoulder only touching the ball. Hell Wilt broke someones toe upon dunking when the ball hit his foot. Kareem has unparaled stamina playing the most games and minutes in NBA history. In his Bucks years he was extreamly athletic for a big man combining speed, power and finesse greatee than Hakeem.
zombieapocolipse69 i'm not denying their greatness i'm just saying that in Kareem's case when he was with the bucks he was the man, when he was with the lakers, he wasn't number 1 player. In Shaq's case wherever he went even in Laker years with kobe, he was the number 1 option
Anthony Secatero So Wilt, Willis reed, Hakeem, David Robinson, Shaq, Ewing, Nate Thurmond, Bill Walton, Bob Lainer, Mosses Malone, Artis Gilmore, Karl Malone. These are Big Men Kareem faced throught his career, ands ignoring the players at the other positions.
If clevend beat the new warriors i will say that lebron is the best player in this era or even the best of all time
Red eye Fahim nigga Kenton was already the best player of this era
Red eye Fahim nah, he already lost 4 finals
Red eye Fahim they won't swap the cavs I can tell u that
dombees lmao, i actually dont like lebron, but he took his team to the finals 7 times 2 times is when he had a piece of shit team.Lebron aint goat but takin ur team to finals 7 times is tight
i agree
All-NBA History Team
1st Team:
F: Lebron James
F: Larry Bird
C: Kareem Abdul Jabbar
G: Magic Johnson
G: Michael Jordan
2nd Team
F: Tim Duncan
F: Karl Malone
C: Wilt Chamberlain
G: Kobe Bryant
G: Oscar Robertson
3rd Team
F: Julius Erving
F: Charles Barkley
C: Bill Russell
G: Jerry West
G: John Stockton
Tell me what you think about this list and tell us your own list
KingKobraPenny That is a really good list. Imagine that all NBA history first team as a team today in the NBA. 82-0
Good list bro
KingKobraPenny no argument here
Only thing I would change personally is I would swap Kareem and Wilt. Just my opinion. But amazing list
@KingKobraPenny This is an exceptional list. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
No one in the world has ever faced as much scruinity as LeBron, not even MJ.
King Zy Kobe has (debatable)
Kobe personal life sure because of that rape stuff, But lebron get's shit no matter what he does, He could go 82-0 in the regular season, Sweep the whole playoffs and win the chip and still get shit on by the media. But that's what happens when you are the best at what you do people want to tear you down, MJ got it, Kobe got it every sports Beast gets it.
My favorite player Melo gets unfairly scrutinized on the reg, dont even lol
Gmac hell no melo never accomplish as much as Lebron ever did so ofcourse he's going to on the other hand Lebron is on his way to being the best player in history
But Melo aint doing nothing besides shooting. And thats the only thing I hear people say
These videos are incredible! The background music really adds to the feel of awe.. its just so entertaining to watch and learn more about the NBA
Thanks my man I really appreciate it!
Keep it up i love watching these
Mike Korzemba best NBA youtuber ever
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"People love to hate on the greatness in the moment".
though lebron is my favorite player.If lebron puts up though stats I will still think mj is better then lbj
do what if michael jordan was drafted by the Houston rockets
King 5433 I love you
Nah lj is way better then mj
@@Batman-ix2dv than*
But can he beat BRIAN SCALABRINE! ps. MJ is always the goat. The only way Lebron can be the goat is to literally turn into a goat.
Harambe I am goat
Brian Scalabrine fact
dix out for you
Harambe yea. "A goat". He's not "the goat". Lol. It's LeGoat James
Harambe right Michael Jordan is THE G.O.A.T
I don't know why everyone is saying LBJ will pass MJ.
He already did.
Lol your a virgin
filthy boi W
no just no
Half as many rings, 1 less MVP, lower in most advanced stats, no DPOY.
Yes just yes. And then PG-13 will surapass MJ and LBJ.
love the videos you go into so much depth into each video keep it up!!!!!!!
Great videos! I miss the old song you just to end on. It throws me off with this new one. Either way keep up the great work!
Mike: "I'm not going to be comparing them"
Spends the entire video comparing them
Profit Duck Lmao, so true, i dont really now why he said that.
He meant In terms of THEM PHYSICALLY not in stats or like that
Profit Duck dumbass right here
He clearly said he wasn't going to compare their playing ability, he just compared stats and achievements
He made a video saying we shouldn't compare players from different eras to see who's the best. Basically, he didn't want to seem like a hypocrite.
LeBron in his prime with a superteam couldn't even beat an old Dallas team
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Kevin Durant smh..🙄
Kevin Durant smh..🙄
Kevin Durant You gave yourself a W but your name is an L
Kevin Durant But didnt he beat a well organized Spurs, 73-9 GSW, and a young talented OKC?
Somebody some day has to pass Michael Jordan in basketball, and Lebron feels that he is closer than anyone at doing so.
Whether you like it or not.
You also have to remember that the Eastern conference was way tougher when Jordan was playing in the 80's and 90's compared to what Lebron was/is facing in the 00's and 10's... True Lebron played against a tough Celtics team for some years but Jordan was facing a much tougher Pistons, Celtics and Knicks teams who were all title contenders
I hate how people always compare rings to see which player is better, if that's the case, then
Horry > Jordan
Russell > Jordan
Iverson < Mo Williams
Faxxxxx
Russell is better than MJ in any case...
*****
Bill Russell played 13years and his team was always reaching the top4.
He won 11 rings at 12 finals
He won a ring at his rookie year and a ring at his last year
His last year-ring was a 7th game win in LA against Lakers.
Those Lakers starting 5 included Wilt,Jerry West, Elgin Baylor....perhaps the greatest team not winning a ring in the history of NBA...unless you need some facts to 'bask; these players'greatness
He won back2back titles with this college team ,not a famous one with a huge basketball tradition but with a shitty unknown one...and that college after his departure never ever even made it again...
That same guy has the FinalsMVP trophy named after him(wonder why??)
He never choked during finals
On the other side MJ never ver beat Larry's Cletics
As a matter of fact when Larry was healthy he even did it to the bulls 9-0 in a single season...lol
MJ never won Dr.J's 76ers
MJ never won Kareem's Lakers
MJ never won the whole Bad Boys Pistons, not the ones that had lost so many players later(including Rick Mahorn,Micheal Williams etc)
Well when Kareem,Dr.J,Larry retired and Bad boys actually disintegrated...MJ won a league full of shitty teams
Thanks
are u slow? LOL Rings done mean much
Haven't watched yet, but if LeBron beats the Warriors (healthy,) then he is the goat
No, because people just forget about the 2011 finals, which was the biggest choke job by a super star in NBA HISTORY. He has to win at least 5 rings to be considered as good or better, and this is coming from a Lebron fan
FullerFan291 same thing the other way around not to mention Jordan played in the weakest era
Allen Iverson "Lebron fan" ok so Mike's choke jobs don't count?
Nick DeRosa 80s Celtics 80s lakers 86 rockets 93-95 rockets late 90s jazz 80s pistons 90s Phoenix suns, tell me again the era was weak, all those teams could dominate in today's weak NBA.
Hi
Mike, I love your videos. I tried to find videos of how the league has transformed over the years, but couldn't find one. You always talk about how different the league was back in the day. You should do a video on how the league has progessed through the years and which type of players were more valued on each generation.
Yo man, keep up the ultra quality videos. My favorite basketball youtube channel
I don't care what anybody Say. Kobe is the goat after Mj
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jay O.G L
jay O.G KOBE!!!!
Lol
you are now my favorite youtuber for putting on those booty shorts
LMAO
Mike Korzemba you should do a irl basketball video in them you could get that gf
@mikekorzemba, have you heard about the ESPN First Take? They're having a competition to have one person go up to their show to debate with Stephen A Smith and Max Kellerman. I reckon you should try out and go debate with them! Should be fun if you go! All you have to do is email them a video of yourself debating a sports topic they've covered recently! Hope you respond and actually go!
Peter Sadok yes do it Mike u would win
How many 50+ win teams has LeBron beaten in the playoffs?
i love re-watching your vids
Why can't we all just appreciate greatness?
Dillon Riedmiller because "fuck Stephen curry" and "fuck Bron bron"
not MJ & LBJ related...
just appreciate the greatness of Steph Curry and LeBron
#StopTheHate #JustAppreciateGreatness
Julianae Lara curry has no greatness to u talking bout
+Brandon Deleon he's great at shooting 3s
+Brandon Deleon he's great at shooting 3s
Everybody knows that the only and real GOAT is Brian Scalabrine.
kwame brown*
ik i try to tell people this but nobody listens to me
kyrie irving
hirshizer u mean pendrick kurkings at least say his name right
Effe No way. Javale McGee all the way
Amazing video. Original point of view, pure logic, undeniable arguments.
One thing I think you do have to take into consideration is the level of play in the eastern conference during their careers. Throughout LeBron's career, the eastern conference has not been nearly as competitive as it was during Jordan's career, thus making it much easier for him to have more finals appearances. If it was the same in Jordan's case, he probably would have 10 championships.
We are forgetting a fact: Jordan never had to leave his team to a title contender to win a ring.
Light Yagami Miami wasn't even good. Gtfo
+༼ They won 2 rings and reached 4 finals. Wade was there and it was clear Bosh was going too...
Light Yagami We're forgetting a fact: Jordan never had to play on a team whose second best player was Mo Williams.
+No One Ever Mo Williams was an All star. And they did get to the finals after all.
Light Yagami yea ok Miami lost first round In the playoffs then LeGoat joined
LeBron is at least the goot. greatest of our time.
Dirk Alurkastan lol
i can agree with this
Me too lol
Dirk Alurkastan as a huge bulls fan, I can agree with this
I AM GOOT
Amazing video Mike! Been watching your videos for awhile now and this was easily one of my favorites
Have always loved your channel man, stoked for some great NBA content just around the corner
i think jordan will always be the best basketball player to ever play the game. however, i think lebron runs away with being the most skilled player to be on a court. jordan would never let jj barea and jason terry shut him down in a game, or even an entire series, but lebron has already been to the finals more times than jordan in his entire career. jordan's the best scorer of all time, lebron is arguably the most skilled and intelligent player ever.
it is also noteworthy to add that lebron just achieved probably the greatest feat in the history of the NBA, but Jordan will always be the GOAT.
Jordan got shut down by muggsey bogues lmao.
Jordan got shut down in the 1988 ECSF. He had 2 pts in the 4th quarter..........
David Kim with the help of Kyrie's "clutch" shot.
Kent Reid Stfu bitch nigga. This guy sealed the game with that freethrow of his and that block. Kyrie's shot was clutch, but it didn't win them the game.
Please do a video about "How Lebron James can pass Brian Scalabrine as GOAT of the NBA"
Kenneth Donnelly That's impossible mate
Kenneth Donnelly the impossible cannot be done. the white mamba will reign forever
There must be a way to do this
Kenneth Donnelly nobody can surpass him
Great vid man keep up the good work
you are my favorite youtuber i love all your videos can't wait tell the season
With 4 NBA finals looses you can't be the GOAT
btafbm jordan had a actual team LBJ didn't dumbass
btafbm Mike ain have no competitions like LeBron does and one of those losses shouldn't even count he shouldn't even been in the finals
never have I ever heard anyone say magic is goat he's not even the Lakers goat
+Lil_Yog _ doesn't count?? AI shouldn't have been in the finals but people still talk about it all the time
btafbm Jordan lost 7 playoffs with Pippen and Rodman... LBJ lost only 3 with a good team
LeBron will never surpass Jordan, that Dallas series was the deciding factor.
1991 - 31.2 points 6.6 rebounds 11.4 assists 1.4 blocks 2.8 steals
1992 - 35.8 points 4.8 rebounds 6.5 assists 1.7 steals 0.3 blocks
1993 - 41.0 points 8.5 rebounds 6.3 assists 0.7 blocks 1.7 steals
1996 - 27.3 points 5.3 rebounds 4.2 assists 1.7 steals 0.2 blocks 41% (WORST Finals, got outplayed by Payton in some games and shot HORRIBLY)
1997 - 32.3 points 7.0 rebounds 6.0 assists 1.2 steals 0.8 blocks
1998 - 33.5 points 4.0 rebounds 2.3 assists 1.8 steals 0.7 blocks
He averaged a career 33.6 points 6.0 rebounds 6.0 assists 1.8 steals & 0.7 blocks on 48% shooting. Michael Jordan played 13 full seasons and played six NBA Finals winning all of them.. His 41.0 points per game in 1993 is still an NBA Finals record.
LeBron on the other hand.
2007 - 22.0 points 7.0 rebounds 6.8 assists 1.0 steals 0.5 blocks
2011 - 17.8 points 7.2 rebounds 5.2 assists 0.2 steals 0.5 blocks (gets outplayed by Jason Terry in his PRIME)
2012 - 28.6 10.2 rebounds 7.4 assists 1.6 steals 0.4 blocks
2013 - 25.3 points 10.9 rebounds 7.0 assists 2.3 steals 0.8 blocks
2014 - 28.2 points 7.8 rebounds 4.0 assists 1.6 steals 0.4 blocks (gets outplayed by Kawhi games 3-5)
2015 - 35.8 points 13.3 rebounds 8.8 assists 1.3 steals 0.5 blocks on 39% shooting. (Almost single handedly took down the Warriors)
2016 - 29.7 points 11.3 rebounds 8.9 assists 2.6 steals 2.3 blocks on 49% shooting. (Leads both team in every major statistic)
LeBron is close, but there is WAY to many stains on his resume for him to be better than Jordan.
Unless something DRASTIC happens then I just don't see him passing Jordan.
I hear you but like Mike(lol) said, it isn't just about the Finals. Why is it so hard to believe that if LeBron matches him in championships and MVPs while also surpassing him in points, rebounds and assists in the regular season AND playoffs that he can be the GOAT?
Jordan may very well have some seasons better than LBJ, but career wise probably not. And that's the point Mike is trying to make. Some people act like it isn't possible AT ALL. Well I disagree, it definitely is possible. We should be wanting for LBJ to strive to be the GOAT, that means we get to see him do it. That means more legendary fucking basketball for us. I also wanting Kobe to do it but he unfortunately fell short. Now it's LeBron's turn to do it. And he has a very good chance imo.
Jay Jay Because the only thing that will matter at the end is the finals performances and Jordan has never choked in the biggest stage and never had to take a backseat like LeBron did to Wade in the 2011 finals, it's not about the career totals because obviously if it was we'd be calling Kareem GOAT and not Jordan, Jordan destroys Kareem in scoring but Kareem has scored more in TOTAL. That's just a little sample of what I'm trying to explain, LeBron has to do something drastic for people to forget the Dallas series, he also played HORRIBLE in the 2007 finals and he played even worse in 2011, his 2015 was AMAZING but people tend to forget that he shot 39%, I'm not nitpicking but I just had to bring this out there.
Isaiah Thomas Like I said before, I hear you. The points you make are very solid. But LeBron has the chance to surpass him in ALL stats. Not just scoring or rebounds. All of them. Regular season and playoffs. That should be a big factor imo. That means LeBron was great for a longer period of time. The fact that he came straight out of high school is also impressive as fuck. That means he was NBA ready at a younger age than MJ, so don't give me that argument as a flaw or unfair compared to MJ.
I believe that LBJ will reach 5 more Finals and wins 3 more rings. That means he would be 6 of 12 in the Finals for his career. That also should be fucking admired instead of bashed. That means he will have more success in the playoffs than Jordan. Why would that be a flaw? Yes Jordan was 6 for 6 but that means he only made it 6 times. LeBron will probably double him in that. Let me lay it all down for you, if LeBron does this, he'd be the GOAT in my eyes:
6 championship
10+ Finals appearances
5-6 MVPs
5-6 FMVPs
more playoffs and season points than MJ
more playoffs and season rebounds than MJ
more playoffs and season assists than MJ
more playoffs and season steals than MJ
more playoffs and season blocks than MJ
continues to beat these all time great teams
If he that all that, he's the GOAT. And he has a very good chance to do all of that. For now he's top 3, only Kareem and MJ are above him imo.
Jay Jay If LeBron does all that then he's undoubtedly the GOAT but I don't see him winning 3 more rings, that's just me though, I see him maybe getting 4-5 but you're correct it's impressive because he was NBA ready at a earlier age but Jordan has faced harder teams with different rules, but the stats won't matter as much since it's neck and neck, LeBron just needs the awards and accolades to be considered better than Jordan.
I see LeBron finishing with 1-2 more rings 1-2 more FMVPs and 1 more MVP and a couple of all star appearances. LeBron still has a good 7 years to get all of those, but 5 more finals appearances isn't realistic to ME, because as he ages he won't be able to impact the game as he is doing right now, also there are a lot of Western and Eastern conference teams that are on the come up.
Isaiah Thomas That's the thing though. If he doesn't achieve all that, he won't be the greatest in EVERYONE's eyes. What I said was him being undoubtedly the GOAT. But even if he reaches 4 instead of 5 more Finals, that still would be more than 10 in total. And if he wins two of those he'd have 5 rings. He still would be the greatest imo and all lot more peoples opinion. Him getting one less ring would not outweigh him surpasses MJ in all stats you know what I mean?
And I could argue with you about who had the tougher competition, but that would be too much typing lol. They have had equal tough competition imo. Jordan had it tougher before the Finals (arguably) and LBJ has it tougher in the Finals(also arguably). And I could also argue with you about the difference between hand check defense in the 90s and zone defense now but again, too much typing. I feel like you aren't the person to bash LeBron for playing in this era instead of the 90s. Let's just hope LeBron plays out of his mind and becomes even more legendary, because that would be more entertainment for us.
Love your videos Mike keep them coming!
Dang so many comments with a lot of thumbs up.
Overall Skill: LeBron
Accolades/accomplishments: Jordan
OG Cheeba W
OG Cheeba MJ is way more skilled, LeBron is more physically gifted
Lebron more skilled than jordan? Jordan was a better scorer, had better footwork, better post game, better ball hander, better shooter, better defender, better free throw shooter, smarter iq, more clutch, better dunker, better at making layups in high pressure situations. Only thing lebron is better at is assist and rebounds.
Most Cold Hearted person on earth
LeBron's the better passer, better rebounder, better teammate, has a higher basketball IQ, both equally efficient scorers.
OG Cheeba Lebron isn't a equal scorer to micheal you stupid fuck. And Micheal had a higher basketball iq.
If Lebron can beat this year's Warriors, then we can consider him the GOAT
SplashReacts Vlogs I agree
Dr.Cookies : As I write this, the Warriors are 16-2 with 12.7 PPG differential. How things can change in a month...
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: funny guy.
SplashReacts Vlogs y because he beats a team with a great starting 5 guess what that only = 1 team and mj had to face that type of team almost every night and finals and he never lost in the finals
The real gamer Michael Jordan never played a team as good as the Spurs dynasty or Golden State Warriors like LeBron has had to... don't exaggerate how good the teams were that Jordan played against! The best team he ever beat postseason was WASHED UP showtime lakers with Magic and Worthy in their last year in the league.. Vlade Divac was starting center
Hey Mike, thanks for uploading this. I love your work.
People forget about the era. Stats are not everything. The era is probably the most important out of them all. It could turn a superstar into a regular player. Bob Cousy was considered elite during his time but if anything he would probably be an average point guard if he played in the NBA today.
my man is about to put ESPN out of business by opening everyone's mind! no more regurgitated bullshit by NBA fans, straight facts and logical arguments. great video!
Thank you sir
Just pointing out, not straight facts. He said his "projections" which means it's only a possibility and a guess. Plus he said he could play 21 total seasons. Out of over 3,100 NBA players in history, only 2, Robert parish and Kevin Willis ever played an actual 21 seasons. That's a 0.06% of all NBA players to reach 21 years. To assume Lebron will reach that is not realistic. That's pure hope from the god of youth to make that happen. So no, the whole argument is not completely factual or feasible really. 21 seasons is an extreme number. Take away 2 seasons then that's more realistic. And that's also saying he has near 0 serious injuries to contend with. Again, with Father Time, guessing someone at 6'8 is going to play 21 seasons and have no serious injuries where he would miss a year, is almost completely unreachable.
Mike Korzemba hey, love the content
Bballfan1992 lebrons playstyle makes it more than possible to join this list. If he coasts through the regular season and doesnt loose his playmaking ability he prob will
he never said nothing about how they changed the NBA rules, so he really ain't making no point. LeBron is the king of all Flop, jordan was beating down back then
Why don't you also take into account the teams that both Jordan and LeBron faced in their own conferences? It's unfair to say that Jordan had little success 21 and above because let's be honest, Jordan faced a lot of competition back then while LeBron was feasting on the weaker teams in the East.
Don't get me wrong, I like your videos, but to only take into account the success a player garners to be the GOAT is pretty iffy. By your definition, Bill Russell should be in this list because he put up monster stats as well as backing it up with success, but we all know he isn't the best player.
SadisticSarcasm MJ was going up against hall of famers the only Hall of famers LeBron has faced in his conference were the Celtics when they had the big 4
SadisticSarcasm Jordan never beat the prime celtics ur point is? pistons beat up Jordan, LeBron single handedly beat those pistons that shut down kobe and took the spurs to a game 7. L!
Mow Better Lawn Service You know the difference? The Bad Boys in Jordan's era were healthy. Also, you clearly didn't notice that Kobe and LeBron faced different Pistons teams. Kobe and Co. went up against a healthy Pistons team with Larry Brown who is arguably one of the best coaches in the NBA. LeBron faced Detroit without their original core that beat the Lakers, that had 2 starters past their prime, and without Ben Wallace to defend the middle.
SadisticSarcasm and who helped LeBron? Which good coach did LeBron have?
Mike, as others have said, Jordan played in a far tougher Eastern Conference throughout his entire career, he didn't leave Chicago to join a super team twice, and Lebron has simply had lesser highs and far lower lows than Jordan over his career. There's no 2011 Finals debacle for Jordan where he played massively subpar and cost his team a Finals series as Lebron has. Nor has there ever been a perception of Jordan personally wilting under pressure in clutch moments or giving up in games as with Lebron. On the highs, Jordan has a Finals series where he hit a buzzer beater game winner, a game-clinching three, and assisted on the game clincher....and it's probably his 4th best Finals. Lebron doesn't have any of that, among many other things he lacks in comparison. He has the potential to pass Jordan on volume stats but if you're making that argument to proclaim Lebron's career better, you could make it for other great players like Kareem who is tough to beat on volume. Don't get me wrong, Lebron is one of the best ever. But I find it highly unlikely that he will do enough to pass Jordan in the public eye or in the eyes of NBA historians.
Jordan lovers take notes cause this guy Korzemba knows what he is talking about and can explain things way better than I can
His facts are incomplete. No mention of MJ's 10 scoring titles and DPOY, for example.
jp3813 omg scoring doesn't make you better dumbass
Sylas Wiggins Look up what DPOY means, moron.
Great Video Mike. I Honestly Agree that Lebron can surpass Jordan, I even made a video exactly about it back in August, He still has alot of Time To Catch Up !
you two should collaborate on a video. Thumbs up if you agree
NBA Insider I just wonder if he can adjust his game enough if he loses his athleticism. Even with his skill level now he relies a lot on his still superior physical abilities.
NBA Insider you low key just self advertised
Peep that fire extinguisher in the background.. is that just to make sure you don't burn down your house with these fire vids?.. foreal man.. well said.
Thank you mike straight facts🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️
Another amazing video Mike, great job!
Jordan never needed a suspension and injuries to win a chip, lebron unbelievably lucky hes not 2-5 in the finals right now
Great point!
You can't say that lebron has always been lucky with injuries. He had to play the 2015 finals without the other 2 best players on his team. It goes both ways. Who knows maybe he would be 4-3 if that didn't happen
uhm and your point is??? the cavs were not supposed to beat the warriors but they did sooo give credit. Who fucking cares how it was done??? he got the fucking job done dumbass
Alexis Taylor congratulations he beat a way less then 100 percent warriors team, good for him...once again jordan never needed a series of events taking place to win a title
3peats Because jordan was never the underdog. 😂 his competition wasnt scrubs but none of the teams he faced had put the bulls against the odds. Lebron has been against the odds multiple times..
Jordan has never had to play a team that was significantly better than his.
and you dont discredit lebron for beating a team thats "way less than 100 percent." you give him credit for doing it in the first place. No one has ever came back from being down 1-3 in a finals series. Dont care how it was done.. it was legendary not to mention the fact that prior to that championship the cavs had a 52 years drought ............
Lebron is losing points because he has always played in the east which has been weak. During michaels time he had to get past the Celtics, Bad Boy Pistons, the vet 76ers,and the Bulldog Knicks. Who has lebron had to play in east when he was young? No one really mentionable until 08 celtics. Then soon after he had to leave and go to the Heat beacause Cleveland couldnt build a team around him. All im saying is lebron didnt have as much competition in the east. In the 80s and 90s the west was considered the weak conference. Those 4 loses. Just ask yourself this question "would Jordan, Wade, and Bosh lose to the Mavericks. hell no! would Jordan, Wade, and Bosh lose to the Spurs. Hell no!" -Stephan A. Smith, someone who is critical of everyone and actually watched Jordan.
The Besteva1999 The detriot pistons wrre fucking stacked mid 2000s and lebron fucked them up by himself on 07
You're stupid dawg east has only been weak for the past 2 years before that it was competitive
The Besteva1999 when they were not in their prime
The Besteva1999 exactly east is weak as fuck. Like no team stood a chance against LeBron and his teams from 2011-now
shut up Besteva lol Jordan never beat a team in their prime.
07, 13, 14 Spurs, 2012 Thunder, and 2015 and 2016 Warriors are all WAY better than ANY team Jordan ever beat. Yeah, LeBron didn't actually beat the '15 warriors, but that's not his fault at all, he put up god tier numbers. Case in point, this is a tired argument made by nostalgic kids who believe everything idiots like Skip Bayless tell them.
Mike Korzemba is a GOAT. Whenever I talk to basketball to people, I always refer to them to MK's videos
good stuff bro
I actually believe u mike. LeBron has had a great career, and actually could be greater than MJ.
nope
JackDoesItAll your probably 15
JackDoesItAll I agree
+Sports Geek OK I will
As of right now
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1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James (tie)
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (tie)
2. Magic Johnson (tie)
5. Tim Duncan
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Wilt Chamberlain
8. Bill Russell
9. Larry Bird
10. Shaquille O'Neal
11. Hakeem Olajuwon
12. Oscar Robertson
13. Julius Erving
14. Jerry West
15. Moses Malone
If LeBron wins 6 rings, he's the 2nd best player of all time. I think....Idk it's so hard.....
Kobe is not better than Shaq Bird Olajuwon or Wilt.
King Likes yes he is
Caz Miller big L wilt is #2 llbj is #3 nqa
Not Moses malone
BrotherFFA _
Why not Moses? He's incredibly underrated
Sick videos g
Good video bro
Lebron plays in a weak east. In the West he wouldn't have went to 7. That is why he is being penalized for finals losses. Jordan showed West or East the Bulls were on top. We should eliminate conferences and just have the best 16 duke it out
Rohan Prince well there was the 93-95 rockets that had a winning record vs the Jordan bulls, but I agree that LeBron is no where close.
Rohan Prince thank you
Rohan Prince Th e east is weak because lebron is that great dumbass
He would honestly we really going to sit here and ignore that the man is an unnaturally built beast? He probably would of been better off in the west mature him into a different kind of player he's to strong for the east only the big three celtics were a problem so he's never had to much struggle. That finals lebron against the warriors would be everyday lebron if he was in the wast since he would have higher chances of losing which could make him play better.
But that's just my opinion i like his game and always will no matter where he plays.
Rohan Prince if LeBron was outwest he wouldve made it to the finals 3 times not 7. but against the best team in the east at the time would be indiana. LeBron would be 3 for 3
Let's not forget Bron is the biggest stat padder in NBA history
lebron only had 2 30+ point seasons
Jose Cruz This is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard someone say.
Lebron does care a lot about his stats and it was really obvious when he was playing late into a blowout when his streak of 10 point games was nearly broken a couple years back and he didn't let anyone else touch the ball until he got to 10 and then immediately left the game.
russell westbrook? rajon rondo? most stat padders are pgs who try to get 10+ assists every game
Donald trump: "Wrong"
You have awesome videos keep it up.
can you make more "what ifs" please those are my favorite videos on those channels
Jordan = most overrated thing that ever existence
He was good but not how people react when they hear his name
Splash Ball123 I know his fans act like he a God.They act like he never choked or missed a shot in NBA history
man you about to get flamed fo saying that 😂😂
exactly.
exactly.
Splash Ball123 6/6
Lebron CAN pass jordan. Its possible
Mehdi Chibi Houmanna yes, but highly unlikely
768supersonic yeah
I mean in stats yea, you have to understand the opponents and and teammates lebron has, the fact that he's carried a team that have a low score percentage except kyrie, that's insane. MJ had his teammates. So LeBron is already their with him
BlueFingerz get michael jordans shoe out of your ass please
BlueFingerz Yeah Jordan had opponents to face too. Knicks, Pistons, Rockets and a lot more.
This was a great video Mike!
when are you doing the Eastern Conference preview/ predictions
Highly doubt even the NBA will allow LeBron to catch another MVP award.. They worship MJ just as much as anyone. And LeBron's award fatigue is real in the game.. Smh he'd had to put up his recent playoff numbers the whole year for them to give it to him.. I don't see it
Jay Kelz he can't win it. He's too old to put up numbers like that while still sharing the ball with Kyrie and love and everyone. He can't get numbers higher than curry Westbrook kawhi and durant
768supersonic Well I don't know man be just did it to win the finals and shared quite much.. He's paced himself the last 3 season runs and it wasn't because of age, it was because of prioritizing his energy. He knows how to win MVP, he even got robbed of one. But his priority is the 'chip. But I think he could give it one more great season and win it. Just doubt he'd do it knowing the playoffs are getting tougher
It's not about voter fatigue, guys are putting up equally astonishing numbers. Harden, Westbrook, Leonard, Curry etc, there's a wider pool of elite talent competing for that award now.
JORDAN IS OVERRATED
its unfair but lebron is in compeition with his former self .... not the rest of the league lol
Please do another what-if!!??!!
He need to do a how murch
Please do more draft what ifs
who you guys Know who he was talking about when he said ghost in Chicago
The white mamba Brian scalabrine
mj should have got more mvps but they just got tired of giving it to him
and mj was close to 7 rings
or maybe 8
Tbf you can say the same about lebron and the MVP's especially the year D Rose won it.
Lebron could have way more mvps if he actually tried to
Same goes for lebron
hey Mike can you do those fix drafts like u did for 2009
You're awsome bro, keep it up
I find that in some of your videos you are biased, you include things that argue in favor of Lbj, but leave out others that would be in favor of MJ. You forgot to mention who they had to face, MJ had to face JOHN STOCKTON AND KARL MALONE!!! That Utah Jazz team would dominate today's NBA, the Magic would also! Rockets would too. Only clear team that would be good in Jordan's era is the Spurs. Even then they wouldn't be a top 5 team.
Also you're bringing up stats when Lebron still has 2 seasons until he ties MJ, I doubt he can rack up 5,000 points in 2 seasons. He's only getting worse and is gonna have to give up the ball to an already superstar Kyrie. It's sad how you made a video about not comparing two different players from two different eras and then make videos like this.
Malone chocked though
Jordan also had to deal with tougher rules making it more difficult to succeed offensively.
Lebron faced the team with the best record in history.. He also faced a lot of hall of famers.. The big 3 in boston, the spurs....
Even tho the warriors beat the bulls record they are not even in the same league as the 96 bulls. They dominated in this era (even tho they choked) but they wouldn't be a top teir team in mj's day. Also lebron didn't face a good playoff until the 08' Celtics and havent faced any other good east teams since
Great work man! love what you've been doing. hope to see more!!
Thanks tim!
Great video Mike. You bring up some valid points that can't be ignored.
Good vid Mike
Good video. I subscribed hoping for more good stuff during the season !
Thanks Nick! Appreciate it
Nick Mandler Trust me. You'll get it.
Mike Korzemba it's not going to be long mike till they call you to be an official talker in the nba your amazing
Dear, Mike Korzemba,
I appreciate the hard work you put in your videos. I love watching them and I think they are great ideas. Your opinions are too. Keep up the hard work.
Thanks Brady! Means a lot my man
Brady Eng truuu
Mike Korzemba. He won 6 nba finals not 3 look it up
it's amazing on how correct you have been when predicting this season. you mention that the league is unpredictable so you can't just hand the ring to the warriors yet. and now we see that kd is injured and could be out for an extended period of time. wow. things really can change in a moments notice
You do have to bring up how he gets to the finals because he's playing very weak teams in the east
Yo, if anyone leaves during the Loot Crate unboxing, they are missing some quality content. Anyway, great video, Mike
Thanks my man. I know its an advertisement but I thought I made it good content anyway.
Mike Korzemba You're welcome. And you thought correctly
Mike Korzemba u got ur facts wrong about people not calling MJ the G.O.A.T after the 1st 3-peat.Look at interview of Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas during the 1993 finals.They were already calling him the G.O.A.T and he only had 2 rings
Steph Curry The G.O.A.T you can't talk with that username bro
+Steph Curry The G.O.A.T 3-1
Yeah but think about it, lebron is basically the only challenge on the east so he makes it to the finals easily, Jordan had to play the knicks, hawks, pistons and many more!
Which means it was way harder to get to the finals for Jordan and even harder to win it. I like lebron but I still don't think he can have a better career
BrotherFFA _ and the fact that the teams in the East in Jordan's time are no joke.
AudibleRocks yeah, for real!
BrotherFFA _ W
BrotherFFA _ BrotherFFA _ Jordan never got past the pistons till they were old, the hawks only had Dominique and the Knicks had Patrick "George Gervin" Ewing choking every year in the playoffs. If u compare the teams Lebron beat/ played against in the finals, they're better than the teams Jordan beat
You are unbiased and very good at this one of my favorites on TH-cam you da man mike
I love your videos this is true basketball smarts
i just can't understand why no one is talking about how EASY the eastern conference is man..
since lebron came to miami he has no competition until the finals
and thats why he won only 3 our of 7 finals...
Make a lillard video like this so mike can see it!
I really want to make a Dame video. Trust me I'll put one out soon!
Do you use a website to find all of those stats
it's really hard to compare because you also have to remember that at the time in the 80s and 90s defense was ALOT more ruthless. yet Jordan managed to as great and proficient as he was. Also what may be the thing LeBron could not surpass as far as Jordan is concerned is that despite both players having the privilege of playing with good teammates, it was Jordan who always had the cherry on top with his clutch ability. No one could argue that LeBron was very fortunate to have had ray allen, kyrie Irving, to save the day in whe LeBron couldn't perform as needed in the final minutes.
the title should be : Can LeBron have a winning finals record
W
+Kevin Durant KD doesn't
Kevin Durant L cuz traitor commented that
Kevin Durant Nigga hold this L man replayed to his own comment saying W bruh
Kevin Durant L
This a great video Mike. Finally, someone talked about this because its possible.
Thank you! Appreciate the nice comment!
Fsociety i
As always great vid with solid facts to prove your argument
I love watching Dom2k and mike zorkemba
Great video
Thanks Owen!
Mike Korzemba how about defenvise player of the year
Incredible fucking video man, much respect. I've always felt that Lebron and Jordan weren't too far apart from each other when it comes to determining who's the best player ever.