2023 Toyota 4Runner TRD PRO Hill Climb Test!

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  • We bring back the 2023 Toyota 4Runner to put it up against our newest courses at the Mountain Playground: The Ladder and Python Pass. Can it be victorious?
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  • @Deetroiter
    @Deetroiter 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I remember as a teenager, I looked at exotic sports cars with awe knowing I could never afford one but it would be really nice. Now, as an adult, I look at even basic new cars with awe knowing that I’ll never be able to afford one but it would be really nice.

  • @ESPcrb
    @ESPcrb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Ive always wanted a 4runner, back when I was in the market in 21, I would watch your videos and it segmented my decision even more to get a Trd off road.
    Haven't had a single issue since

    • @mainakk1
      @mainakk1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good to hear.. I am planning to get the 23 ORP. Did you opt for KDSS and why!

  • @richardhouvener6423
    @richardhouvener6423 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    I stopped at a local Toyota dealer on a Sunday to look at a 4Runner and the factory sticker had a price of $61332 (it had that stupid XP Wallet Predator package), which was fairly high but doable. Next to it, however, was a dealer added sticker that had a line that boldly stated MARKUP $8000! They don't even try to hide the ripoff anymore. I love the vehicle but I will give it a hard pass until prices get a little more sane.

    • @Podcastforthewin
      @Podcastforthewin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ya, because they use the excuse of low stock. They still blame covid for everything too.

    • @dhz35
      @dhz35 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      I tried shopping for a 2023 TRD Pro earlier this year. The dealer had the same car in this video en route to the dealership. Market price had it around $60k which is where the market on this car is. When they handed me the deal sheet, they had a market adjustment price of $20 thousand. They wanted $80 thousand for the 4Runner. Literally got up and walked out

    • @themagician7734
      @themagician7734 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Plenty of used 4Runners sitting on lots. They still go for a high price, but a lot less than what you are quoting.

    • @billricheter5678
      @billricheter5678 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      These are terribly overpriced. Also the horrible mpg makes it the most expensive vehicle to own. What a bunch of lemmings

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@themagician7734Have you seen what the FJ Cruisers are going for? Insane. So, not surprising dealers are jacking up to hell on the 4R before the LC hits the lots. The new LC probably will rob the 4R customer base and the 4R will be discontinued. To become the next FJ collectible.

  • @douglasascencio9140
    @douglasascencio9140 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Damn I just wanna say I love this channel, proper off road tests, no holding back any punches just good ol' proper and realistic scenarios of what these machines should be capable of and expected to do. thanks for keeping it real

  • @cbb976
    @cbb976 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have a 23 ORP... Never have I loved a vehicle this much. Every day I drive it, I'm glad I bought it. Awesome machine. Great footage

  • @eljeanamandos2276
    @eljeanamandos2276 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I would also like to comment the 4-runner. We had this car in the 90s. And we fell in love with it for its highest off-road capabilities. And no parts of it ever broked! We used it for hunting in very wild places, in autumn and winter, when there is a lot of snow and very cold, where any breakdown could cause serious problems. People still drive old 4-runners and don’t want to change them to new ones.
    It cost about 30 К dollars in Kazakhstan.
    Respect to the author for good videos!

  • @Audacious_TV
    @Audacious_TV 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love the Fact that you use every source available to make up the Hill! Awesome Work!

  • @M.G.jun.
    @M.G.jun. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Once again a great test report. It's great how you go into everything and explain all the details and try them out. And then at the end the giant made a difference by having less air in the tire. Here you can really see what's additional. I'm looking forward to your next videos on this super course. Thank you very much and kind regards from Germany.

  • @whocaresjustdoit
    @whocaresjustdoit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    What a great vehicle! I have 2022 Lime Rush TRD Pro and have driven 52K miles with it in just 1.5 years! The TRD Fox shocks are some of the most comfortable shocks I've had, probably comparable to the Ford Raptor. The TRD Pro without any modifications is already a super capable vehicle, as I've done Black Bear Pass, Ophir Pass, and many others without any problems. I doubt most of the people who have steel bumpers and 34'' tires ever go off-road haha.
    Just swapped out a new Fox suspension set at 50K, changed transmission fluid and differential fluids, and got a new set of General Grabber ATX. Here's to the next 50K miles 🍻

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Did you need new suspension due to leaks,etc or wanted an upgrade?

    • @whocaresjustdoit
      @whocaresjustdoit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TobyCostaRica The Fox shocks, like all performance shocks (Icons, Kings), need to be rebuilt at 50K miles, otherwise it'll ride really harshly. I didn't have any leaking issues or anything but I do quite a bit of offroading so it was time. I bought another set and sent the old ones on the vehicle to Fox for rebuild. It takes 3-4 weeks to rebuild the shocks and I didn't want to not have my car while it's being done, so now I have 2 sets for whenever I need to get the shocks rebuilt.
      I haven't gone anywhere that the TRD Pro can't go yet so I don't have the need to upgrade suspensions as of now.

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@whocaresjustdoit thanks, I was curious as the OEM spec Fox shocks are protected vs exposed shafts aftermarket. That design (and prior ownership of aftermarket shocks) makes we want to go OEM on my next 4x4.

    • @whocaresjustdoit
      @whocaresjustdoit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TobyCostaRica yeah I’m with you on that. I’m on the boat of trusting the engineering Toyota puts into the TRD Pro. I’ve owned aftermarket shocks too and they always break down at one point or another. Haven’t had a single problem with the TRD Pro Fox 2.5 despite frequently heavy off-roading.

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@whocaresjustdoit yeah at this point I’m done with uniballs, helms and poly bushings. Oem specs rubber bushings and sealed ball joints for good reason. The only thing I’d do is a TRD lift kit if going higher.

  • @mickeybrumfield764
    @mickeybrumfield764 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ryan, I can see there is a good reason for automotive journalists liking this 4Runner. 😊

  • @rickdougherty1371
    @rickdougherty1371 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent Vid! Thanks for doing these.

  • @elizabethescher5445
    @elizabethescher5445 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    That uphill course is beginning to look like a sand dune! Great the "old" 4Runner could make it up with a little help by you dropping the tire air a bit. Great truck!

    • @JeepCherokeeful
      @JeepCherokeeful 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      More like the oldest “new” vehicle for sale in America

  • @fixedwing1
    @fixedwing1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Great content. This could be a go to for how different techniques worked on that very loose and steep climb.

  • @jdrules23
    @jdrules23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have a 21 trd pro 4runner in lunar rock. Your videos were partially why I sold my 2019 jl rubicon. Love the 4runner.

  • @CarnutMM
    @CarnutMM 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love your 4Runner and Tacoma videos. Thank you for trying MTS and crawl control before going straight for the locker.
    Toyota has sold many 4Runners because of your videos.

  • @WW-wf8tu
    @WW-wf8tu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    YESSSSS!!!! Ryan, I swear you are my favorite at this stuff! You must've read my previous comment about wanting to take a 4R TRD OR up your courses to challenge them! THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH FOR THIS!!!!! You did almost every last thing I would have done(before airing down)to tackle that hill! This is 1 of the reasons why I really dig your channel. You explain everything well. You challenge things harder than most other channels. You do your homework and you really speak to me. I almost NEVER can find anything to add to what you do. This was an excellent Friday treat for me. TYSM! Still want to bring my 4R TRD OR out there someday. lol Only minor thing I might have done on the CC attempt at slow speed, is not turned the tires and gave it a longer time to see if it would fill the holes back in and climb up and out. (works in sand) But for video purposes, this was more than convincing and rewarding to me. Cannot over state how great this was for me today! You say"we hope you enjoy them" Well, you can count on it from me!

  • @chaleowin7732
    @chaleowin7732 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your videos. It's the type of 'messing around' I do in most of my off-road outings. When in doubt, use more skinny pedal.

  • @knivesinedc
    @knivesinedc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I know Driving Sports is a different channel compared to like, TFL, where DS is focusing more on new vehicles, but it would be cool to see some older modified or even stock 4x4's take on some of the courses shown in these videos just to see how old vehicles stack up and how technology has improved or hindered off road performance in certain areas.

  • @TheBabadush
    @TheBabadush 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Every time you have a 4Runner on, it reenforces my decision to own a 4Runner. thank you 😊

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I hate to sound like a fanatic, but owning a 4R TRD OR has been the best decision I have made. And I have only put on rock sliders. Everything(including tires)is stock. And it is a tank!

  • @syedmfarooq
    @syedmfarooq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review as always Ryan.

  • @JGstunts22
    @JGstunts22 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My pro is by far the best vehicle I have ever owned , I’ve had Tacomas silverados f150s explorers and I still love the 4runner

  • @mussim2919
    @mussim2919 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this video! You did it YES!!!!

  • @ChipSpencer123
    @ChipSpencer123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, Ryan. Your enthusiasm is very welcome.

  • @chrisdeantonio1498
    @chrisdeantonio1498 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The magic of airing down! So glad you took that step.

  • @calvinvesco9883
    @calvinvesco9883 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love my 4Runner!

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Ryan, The term 'maybe next year' seems to have been invented for this generation of 4Runner. 😉 Whenever 'next year' finally arrives for the 4Runner, rumors suggest a manual 4Runner will be part of the rebirth and return to 4Runner roots . While we are still daydreaming about that far off arrival, I can also throw in a reverie about the reintroduction of the original 2 door 4Runner. 🤞🤞🤩

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are a lot of rumors about it. Some fear. Some hope. I made my choice back in 2018 and I cannot see me ever trading up. No matter what comes next. Yes, it would be great to have some things I did not get, but I knew what I was getting into. I accepted this jack of all trades for what it is. Could it use another gear or 2, yes. Could it use a front camera, yes. (new ones have it)And there are other little nuances people talk about that I knew about before my purchase. But it has been 5 years now, and no complaints from me. And still Toyota has not recreated the 4R. Could it go away like the FJ Cruiser? Maybe. The new Land Cruiser could slide in and take the business. But I would not pick the new LC over what I have.

    • @trailrunnah8886
      @trailrunnah8886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Seriously. Every once in a while when I'm searching for an answer to something in the 4Runner groups, I'll come across a post from like 2018 talking about the rumored "new" 4R coming out the next year.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@WW-wf8tu There is NO way the 4Runner will be discontinued. It is the cash cow 4X4 in Toyota's biggest market. The debut of the new GX and Land Cruiser have only whetted the appetite for the possibilities of what the next 4Runner will be.

    • @faheemabbas3965
      @faheemabbas3965 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rightlanehog3151The new Land Cruiser is honestly a sales flop if the new 4Runner ends up being good.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@faheemabbas3965 A sales flop compared to the 2,000 -3,000 Land Cruisers they used to sell per year?

  • @anthonydotb
    @anthonydotb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I have a 2014 Trail Premium (same trim as the TRD Off Road), with 150k miles and it still feels new. Those stock nitto's aren't the best tire. The 5th gen is an instant classic, and it the first car I've owned that I know I'll never part ways with.

    • @kurtburkhardt5862
      @kurtburkhardt5862 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a 1014 Trail as well. Only 145K. With a 3" lift and 33" Baja Boss tires, it rocks. I've parked right next to a 2023 and it's hard to tell the difference.

  • @firebir11
    @firebir11 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And for all of your efforts you're rewarded with a nice relaxing quiet ride home ..and not WA WA WA of the tires....great truck.

  • @Raver_S_Thompson
    @Raver_S_Thompson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got mine 8 months ago, it hadn’t even left the port in Japan. My markup for the solar octane pro, completely unseen came around 2k. I paid for it in half as I’m trying to work on my credit a little. 3k miles later, cause I drive company vehicles, I still love it.

  • @Weatherby406
    @Weatherby406 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I just bought a trd off-road premium and put bfg 285s on it on stock suspension. Already more capable than the pro for at least 10k less and has the same features.

    • @mcwendel8066
      @mcwendel8066 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Cool story 😂

    • @LionRunner
      @LionRunner 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even on stock size I think those Nittos on the weaker side and not much from all season tires. I've tried stock size GY Wrangler Duratrac and I experience a huge difference in grip. Now running Toyo OC 285/70R17 on stock suspension, haven't had a chance to test offroad yet. I believe 285's would help to float over due to more area with same psi vs stock 265s. Not sure unless I live next to Ryan and test TRD Pro stock tires vs my stock TRD Pro except for 285s 😃

    • @sevendewey
      @sevendewey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well that’s simply not true. 😂

    • @rockeye
      @rockeye 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you feel comfortable.

    • @thomassanio8745
      @thomassanio8745 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tires are everything as is air pressure.

  • @sometom7925
    @sometom7925 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    4runner to the rescue!!😍👍

  • @Westerntrailboss
    @Westerntrailboss 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    You defeated the crawl control on the ladder by turning the wheels back and forth. If you watch the videos Toyota did on the Tacoma from 2016 you’ll learn how it works. Good luck next time and keep up the videos!

    • @trailrunnah8886
      @trailrunnah8886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So crawl control only works when you're traveling directly straight ahead?

    • @Westerntrailboss
      @Westerntrailboss 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@trailrunnah8886 Crawl control works to build contact surface. If you watch the Toyota demo video of the Tacoma stuck in sand, you’ll see the system inching the sand to build up traction as it digs out. By turning the steering wheel back and forth, this can’t happen. Your literally digging a hole by doing that. I’m not a Toyota engineer, LOL, but that’s the best way I can explain it.

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@WesterntrailbossIn sand, the tires are filling the hole back up as they slowly turn, stop and turn. Turning the wheel side to side negates this action as it is creating more ditch to fill in. Whether or not in the soil shown here the functionality of CC would be duplicated like it was in the example you mentioned, remains to be seen. As most people don't have the patience to let the system work. I have personally duplicated the example you mentioned in my 4R, in sand. Confident that it would in fact dig me out, I did not have anyone around, no winches, no aids of any kind when I ran my test. I spun all 4 tires(4WD Hi)until the vehicle was resting on the frame. There is no more stuck than that. Flipped on CC and let it do its thing. In less than 5 minutes(if memory serves)it crawled itself out. I primarily did this test(and filmed it)to debunk those that said you could only do this maneuver going in reverse. I did it going forward. Ryan did a great job here testing out the abilities of all the traction devices, except this 1 example. And I cannot fault him for it, as he does not have a generous amount of time to sit and wait indefinitely to see if it would go up that incline in that soft soil. I am not sure if CC would do it under that condition. But I would love to give it a try. 1 thing is certain, gravity would be on your side going backwards if it did not work going up the hill. Hole or not. Mercedes had a gimmick on some SUV model(s) of the vehicle bouncing up and down in the sand. Thus causing the sand to fill back in the hole. lol Was interesting. I like the CC better tho.

    • @adogarza
      @adogarza 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree; he is not letting the system work properly, even without crawl control, it is not the best technique.

    • @zalllon
      @zalllon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Looks like he was using the technique that works with the range, rover defender, but you are correct that this is not how Toyota programmed it. He should’ve just kept the steering wheel straight and allowed it to do it’s thing.

  • @genesistype2155
    @genesistype2155 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really good technical review.

  • @DogeNews
    @DogeNews 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great video! Definitely would like to have seen the system work as designed… moving the wheel back and forth is definitely a no-no with crawl control. You need to point in the direction you want to go and let it do it’s thing.

  • @skeeterbug9875
    @skeeterbug9875 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @Tacosauce81
    @Tacosauce81 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man the "Ladder" is quite the hill. 28 degrees, is no joke. Add all that loose ground, an its a dream crusher. Id love to take a snowmobile up the ladder, during winter. Full throttle,.. brrrraaapp!

  • @zalllon
    @zalllon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When stuck in more Sandy type of conditions, on my Trd off-road, I’ve switched MTS to rock so it has less slip in places where does find a better grip

  • @sha6mm
    @sha6mm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A 4Runner is no Jeep but it is more than capable for a Off-Road machine.

  • @alexandersnow1963
    @alexandersnow1963 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did you try using the locker with atrac? I’ve gone up far worse in a 4Runner with atrac and it’s always worked

  • @wlee2689
    @wlee2689 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Need more terrain spot like this to watch

  • @pipepicasso8112
    @pipepicasso8112 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was fortunate enough to get our Solar Octane at MSRP. We ordered it in March, and received it in July. We live in the Cincinnati area.

    • @timalan7406
      @timalan7406 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We don't pay mark ups in Ohio👍.

  • @denault3985
    @denault3985 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your video's are excellent in both content and visual quility. Just curious on cameras used besides the Panasonic GH5 and many GoPro's...

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It depends on the shoot, but we also use the Canon C70, R3 and R5. GH5MkII only used for vehicle interior shot.

  • @tallll70
    @tallll70 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing, big boss fights on Friday

  • @paul_t_kendall
    @paul_t_kendall 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty cool to see what a difference air pressure makes!

  • @wb5jysman
    @wb5jysman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love my new 4runner. I was lucky and got a Pro at MSRP, but the factory tires are not great. I haven't changed them out quite yet. I've only had it a month.

    • @LionRunner
      @LionRunner 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Newer the tires are more money you can get when you sell them so you can put towards your new set of tires. I normally sell all 5 tires and get new 5 tires of my choice.

    • @itr0863
      @itr0863 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      When I got my 4R Trd off-road back in 2018 I was going through the same thing. I wanted to use the stock road tires until they went bad but I couldn’t wait. After 1 month, I ended up selling them on marketplace and then using that money towards some ko2s. 65,000 miles later I still have those same ko2s!

    • @billricheter5678
      @billricheter5678 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@itr0863how bad is the mpg?

    • @kurtburkhardt5862
      @kurtburkhardt5862 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We have a 2014 4Runner Trail. It is equivalent to a TRD Off-Road, locker, crawl control, etc. It now has a 3" OME suspension lift and 285/70/17 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T's. I'm sure it would have no major issues on this course. I would air down to 18-20 psi on the steepest part. Technology can only do so much. Some momentum ground clearance and better tires will win almost every time.

    • @wb5jysman
      @wb5jysman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @billricheter5678 not great. Hwy around 16.5-17.5

  • @terrylaban7543
    @terrylaban7543 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of course you need to air down! Should have been the first thing you do. Have taken my stock 2021 4Runner TRD Off Road (only skids and sliders) all through Colorado, Utah and Arizona. Of course after completing Hell’s Revenge (including some offshoots) I had plugs in two of my four Highway tires…but? This thing will do far more than I have seen in most any of these sites. Crawl Control and MTS is not a gimmick but only needed in specific situations. I have used it in off camber boulder climbs that my human throttle inputs could not do (left foot braking or otherwise) to get through a difficult obstacle.

  • @pro100toyota5
    @pro100toyota5 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    55.600 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍Thanks for your video and job👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @indianaaerials8614
    @indianaaerials8614 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd like to see a run with some different tires.... I was not very impressed with the Nitto's... The BFG KO2's have been pretty great. Gotten me through quite a bit without even airing down.

  • @canalesivany
    @canalesivany 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Timeless design ❤

  • @Podcastforthewin
    @Podcastforthewin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dealership wouldn’t even let my wife and i test drive the 2023. They said they only have one in stock. I’ll never step foot in that place again. If you ever come out to Calgary, you’ll find that there are a lot of snobs here.

    • @mileshawkins6225
      @mileshawkins6225 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      a lot of companies wont let you test drive their high end stuff unless they believe youre actually going to purchase it, to avoid putting milage on it. for the ford raptors, they wont even let you inside the car unless you have a down payment ready.

    • @Podcastforthewin
      @Podcastforthewin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mileshawkins6225 we were there about to trade in our Lexus. They had almost nothing on their lot either.

    • @mileshawkins6225
      @mileshawkins6225 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Podcastforthewin ah sorry bout that. Dealerships are scummy man. They treat you like ass, then spam your email with satisfaction surveys 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @ralph3384
      @ralph3384 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup same thing happened to me. I bought my trd pro from another dealer who let me and got it for only a 3k markup.

  • @alanmay7929
    @alanmay7929 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would habe happened if you reduced air in the tires alot more!! On the first course?

  • @bobby350z
    @bobby350z 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would be nice to see side by side comparison with lexus GX460 or the new GX550.

  • @weatherornotsubaru
    @weatherornotsubaru 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just over a week ago we took our 2023 Subaru Ascent on Section 2 of WA BDR as well as some roads just eastside of the Manastash Ridge Observatory. The steepest we tackled was up hill 17 degree angle over dry dirt and loose rock with tons of moguls. The Subaru Ascent did fantastic. No slipping, just drove right up!
    There was a lot of other obstacles too, lots of rocks and dry/deep dirt and huge ruts. No problems on any of that. That said, we are getting a rear diff locker installed this week as we intend to tackle some tougher stuff later this year.
    Really wish you could get a 2023 Subaru Ascent out there (or I'll bring ours over!). I think they will impress with their capabilities.

  • @TundeEszlari
    @TundeEszlari 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video.

  • @EZapar
    @EZapar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I seem to remember you yawning and checking your watch as I crawl controlled down Python Pass before we started shooting. lol. The Baja Boss on the Bronco is an AT, not an MT. :) I really think that the front locker is all the difference when it comes to these climbs. The 4Runner did pretty good at saving face once the tires were deflated some. Cool vid. (poor camera)

    • @kurtburkhardt5862
      @kurtburkhardt5862 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Baja Boss is available in either an A/T or a M/T. I have the 285/70/17 A/T's on my 4Runner. They have wider M/T style tread on the edges and A/T in the middle. They do work well off-road and aren't too loud on road.

    • @EZapar
      @EZapar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kurtburkhardt5862 Right. But the ones we ran on his course are ATs.

  • @akilghosh
    @akilghosh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I drive a '00 LX470. I drove my colleague's 2016 4runner and was so happy that my Lexus was a far better vehicle.

    • @faheemabbas3965
      @faheemabbas3965 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just wonder what will happen when all of the good old reliable cars fade away to time…

    • @downtoearth2992
      @downtoearth2992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And yet here you are watching a 4runner review. FYI, Consumer Reports, 2023 Toyota 4Runner most reliable vehicle. Far Better?.......um, not really tho, No. Just way more overpric.....expensive.

  • @simonlamarche5685
    @simonlamarche5685 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tires are very important for offroad. You just prove it.

  • @MusicLuv80
    @MusicLuv80 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have tried the recent 4 runner and the ride quality wasn't that smooth but I tried my friend's old 4 runner and it was so smooth. Why is that?

  • @jonathanmorales7388
    @jonathanmorales7388 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When will you review the Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek edition? It's said to be a 4Runner alternative. 🤔

  • @mattalexander4699
    @mattalexander4699 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We bought ours last month!

  • @paulelledge8977
    @paulelledge8977 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need to get that defender back and try it on the course!

  • @gtelieanor
    @gtelieanor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you try the exact same course for fun with an 2024 Ascent Onyx Black ? ♥

  • @knightfall_2398
    @knightfall_2398 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really hope the new one holds up to the reliability as this gen

  • @timalan7406
    @timalan7406 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When Toyota tests the craw control system, they don't keep cutting the wheel from left to right. They keep the wheel straight and the system pulls the truck out. .

  • @live4mac
    @live4mac 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I feel like auto reviewers always dedicate so much time to showing off MTS and crawl control, but the overland channels that actually use these vehicles long term typically say they never use it. A rear locker, good tires, and a little momentum is more effective than a lot of the systems from any manufacturer.

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You'll like our upcoming ZR2 review. We ignore all the modes. Lol.

    • @live4mac
      @live4mac 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@drivingsports Looking forward to it! I'm patiently waiting for my zr2 order to be accepted.

  • @98MAzdaMilleniaS
    @98MAzdaMilleniaS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Theres a reason the Nitto Terra Grappler have had the nickname “terrible grapplers” for the past i don’t know… 15 years? 😂😂

  • @AndyNC
    @AndyNC 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Sounds maybe weird, but this is my dream car at the moment. Even it's in the affordable range (compared to supercars), it's hard to find one without 15-20k upcharge from dealers. I don't think I'll like the new model (most likely a "fresher" design with a humongous screen inside. I would guess with at least one hybrid option.) Not knowing how the new one will really look like, I'm sure I would pick this one over the new one.

    • @rivaled
      @rivaled 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really? Nothing but msrp in my area but they are a little harder to find . Don’t be afraid to drive out of state to look.

    • @inttruders
      @inttruders 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are markups at a lot of dealers around us too. What we did to find it at MSRP was build it out on the Toyota website then we sent it out to every dealer with 75 miles of us. It was a long day of answering the phone calls but we found a local dealer selling at MSRP.

    • @mikeyc7072
      @mikeyc7072 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not even close to that where I live!! Yes, there are Dealer add-ons - $2k to $3K above MSRP is normal

    • @briandorsey6437
      @briandorsey6437 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Make calls to Colorado dealerships where Toyota sends ALOT of 4 Runners and see who has a decent inventory. I bought mine at Mountain States in Denver. No markups and less than MSRP

    • @SLHJR0390
      @SLHJR0390 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What percentage under msrp if you don’t mind me asking? Looking at one at the same place. CO resident

  • @user-oe7pr5ww2m
    @user-oe7pr5ww2m 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LC300 GR-S has front&rear locker already and LC250 has swaybar disconnect, which means next gen 4runner will have the potential to equipped with front locker and swaybar disconnector, I hope toyota will do their best.😁

    • @chibbyylol
      @chibbyylol 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Tacoma, upcoming Land Cruiser and Gx don’t have front lockers so…don’t expect it really
      Front swaybar disconnect likely yes

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:04 I don’t think I ever realized how offset the engine cover deal is in the engine bay. Why the heck did they do it that way? Couldn’t they have centered it and just put cut outs for the intake or whatever?

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Weird, right? New one will probably fix that.

    • @firebir11
      @firebir11 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@drivingsports Just fix the old one and remove it 😂

  • @timothytakumikojima5752
    @timothytakumikojima5752 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please review the updated 2024 Subaru Outback Wilderness

  • @dy8863
    @dy8863 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the video. I was considering this TRD Pro 4 runner, but not after seeing this.

  • @TrailRunn4r
    @TrailRunn4r 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You should have tried A-trac!

  • @Qhaway
    @Qhaway 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Having spent so much time with the Forester Wilderness, how would you say it might stack up against your new obstacles at the test area?

    • @MrMikeDao
      @MrMikeDao 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      May still be similar to what it did prior. Any more difficult of the road, you’ll be watching TFL videos. Subaru owners don’t like them but the point of their video is just to see how they far they can push it and some videos show how good Subarus are compared to off road focus vehicles

  • @timothyj.2937
    @timothyj.2937 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have na idea. surprise us with the OBW climbing that very steep hill

  • @C.Lopez-SWFL-Off-Road-Trucks
    @C.Lopez-SWFL-Off-Road-Trucks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice

  • @g.fortin3228
    @g.fortin3228 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All the beach vids using crawl let the truck sort it out.. no steering, it hampers it. But nice vid otherwise and love the color too. And happy the airing down worked, I always forget this.. not anymore !

  • @mikefoehr235
    @mikefoehr235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Many people complain about the Tacoma seating position....i had one and found it no problem....does the 4Runner have a better seating position or is it the same as the Tacoma?

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      4Runner is not at all like the Tacoma seating position.

  • @JGstunts22
    @JGstunts22 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crawl control works better if you allow it to , turning the wheel doesn’t allow it to thread the needle

  • @bdb444
    @bdb444 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toyota experts….I have 2018 Trd pro Calvary Blue 27000 on it with a 5yr 100.000 warranty….its in a excellent condition trying to sell just a opinion from you guys what would you guys ask for it in this market today

  • @masonthomas9671
    @masonthomas9671 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It’s going to be sad seeing this iconic off roader go away. Hopefully the new Land Cruiser and future 4Runner are able to keep the off road focus and reliability that made it special.

    • @billricheter5678
      @billricheter5678 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The more complex the least reliable. That’s why 4 runners have done so well. No change in 20 years

    • @faheemabbas3965
      @faheemabbas3965 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nope. They won’t.
      Welcome to the planned obsolescence era of Toyota. Keep your old car. They want more money now.

  • @scottgleason4511
    @scottgleason4511 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A front locker would be awesome Toyota if you are listening. I love my toy toter

  • @natehoule567
    @natehoule567 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can’t wait to see a defender

  • @knightryder3757
    @knightryder3757 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nooooooooooooooo!! You broke the ladder! Beg, borrow or steal a tractor so you can please go back and pack that spot back down that the silly 4Runner just ruined so it'll be ready when you run the CrossTrek up that ladder like a squirrel running up a tree being chased by a cat. 👍😁👍

  • @mujtaballa3105
    @mujtaballa3105 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am curious if you used 4lo and just atrac (the sledge hammer) on that ladder…ha

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Didn't. Not enough time in the day to try everything.

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drivingsports That's the cool part about the swiss army knife of SUV's. You get a lot of choices of how you want to tackle the job.(time permitting)😆

  • @chadbaptiste4227
    @chadbaptiste4227 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm going into this question with three caveats out of the way: it was a rental, it very likely was NOT on snow tires, and it was a 22 SR5, NOT a TRD Pro. However, recently while in CO, I was going up a mountain pass the morning after a foot or two of snow fell. The roads were plowed but some areas were still a bit compacted. I couldn't have been going more than 20 mph up and around a curve and the brakes suddenly locked completely. I can't remember the last time I had a vehicle's brakes lock on me in 10 years of driving, and luckily I managed to careen it into a ditch and not over the opposing edge of the road. Am I missing something? I know the SR5s are technically "part-time 4 Wheel Drive" vehicles but they have ABS, which should completely eliminate the chances of that happening. So why would a 2022 SR5 4Runner's brakes lock up at all?

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If the ice is slick enough and the tires bad enough it might feel like the brakes are locked.

  • @papadougpapadougsadventures
    @papadougpapadougsadventures 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you don’t mind where is this course? I have a 2021 TRD Pro 4Runner and would like to run this. I live in Spokane WA.

    • @rustlesee
      @rustlesee 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s near Ellensburg. I’ll bring my Ranger Tremor from Spokane too!

    • @papadougpapadougsadventures
      @papadougpapadougsadventures 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rustlesee Sounds like fun. I’m off work Sunday’s and Monday’s. Let me know when you want to go? I’ve got a buddy that just bought a 2023 tundra and I’m sure he would enjoy this location too

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well it’s on private land, so yo better contact the owner (Ryan) before crashing the party.

    • @stevepatch1809
      @stevepatch1809 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m guessing if he sees this comment he might be on board, it would be great content, but you might have to sign a waiver so he’s not responsible if there’s any damage to your vehicles.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stevepatch1809 I think Ryan did have a local on one of the recent videos. Think it would only make sense if he could get some content out of it, and make something that hasn’t yet been seen.

  • @Rastafaraization
    @Rastafaraization 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when did you engage the rear locker in the ladder?

  • @jamessmith12jcs
    @jamessmith12jcs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When is the ZR2 video going live?

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's going to take a couple weeks in edit.

  • @bdb444
    @bdb444 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For all the Toyota experts…I have trd pro 2018 calveryblue color in a perfect condition and I mean it has only 27.000 on it with bumper to bumper (100.000) warranty…looking to sell what would be a fair price to ask for tnx guys!

  • @dru4135
    @dru4135 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know, all of you people keep using the words "old". But just like with the Nissan GTR, that is what makes them special. It's refined over the years which makes it better and that's why people love them. Not this constantly changing aesthetics and electric crap.

  • @8thfleet384
    @8thfleet384 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤

  • @Ben-go7ix
    @Ben-go7ix 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Bronco sport made it up the ladder...once

  • @JoeTaco83
    @JoeTaco83 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s nuts when I see people buy this Particular 4Runner and keep it with the small sissy Tires. Use it just to got the kids from school and on Grocery Runs. Sad to see all those cool features never get used.

  • @paulelledge8977
    @paulelledge8977 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is where toyota went wrong with the Land Cruiser by going cheap. The 1958 LC is supposed to the off road model of the off road model yet it doesn't have as good of tires, no MTS or ATrac and no MTM camera system. The most "off road ready" Land Cruiser will get beat by the 4runner from the factory.

  • @MaxMae-xh8ke
    @MaxMae-xh8ke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be great to see a GX460 do the hill climb

  • @SamSam-ih6nt
    @SamSam-ih6nt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait wait simple cross over?

  • @hwyman01
    @hwyman01 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Quit sawing at the wheel while in crawl control bud 😆

  • @ARDG89
    @ARDG89 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have a 2013 subaru forester could've done that first hill no problem...

  • @yellowbagaznik
    @yellowbagaznik 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ребята, я в шоке! Наш водитель с острова Ольхон, на такой машине, вашу трассу прошел бы на раз, причем не сильно то пользуясь настройками трансмиссии. Это трасса для кроссоверов.

    • @abirsanu
      @abirsanu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Это только кажется что пройдешь на раз. А на самом деле на этом трэйле все смешано, и камень и земля как пыль и сухая похоже на песок. На каждый пол-метра или метр состав меняется радикально и осложняет соответственно. Не зря создали в таком месте. Это не каменистые трэйлы в горы Колорадо или пустынные в Неваде где на всю протяжению пути однотипно, все легко и предсказуемо, даже если они опасно выглядят.

  • @InGratitudeIam
    @InGratitudeIam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Air down much?