THESE ARE THE TOP 10 BEST MAXI SCOOTERS FOR 2024!
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- Alex brings you our Top 10 BEST Maxi Scooters for 2024! We listened to your comments from last year, reflected in this video! Who is the KING of Maxi's? The TMAX Tech Max? Burgman 400? ADV350? Stick around to find out! Like and Subscribe for MORE BikeMatters content!
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00:00 Intro
00:11 Sym MaxSym TL508
01:34 BMW CE 04
03:14 Suzuki Burgman 400
05:24 Peugeot XP400 Allure
06:37 Kymco AK550 Premium
07:56 Piaggio Beverly S400
09:10 Honda ADV350
10:23 Yamaha TMAX Tech Max
11:58 Honda X-ADV
13:27 BMW C400 GT
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I have a burgman 650 of 2013 its quite old but Im happy with it, its a beautiful scooter, very comfy.
Own a Burgman, extremely well planted and stable with executive chair comfort.
Thanks for the insight!
I have been biking for over forty years and until last year had never even sat on a scooter let alone ridden one. I still have several bikes and enjoy them all but last year purchased a BMW C400GT and love it. It gets out more than any other bike I have to do all sorts from day trips with my wife on the back to running to the shops. It’s much more capable than you would expect, sits easily at motorway speeds two up with more to come from the engine if you needed it. It’s also extremely comfortable rider and pillion, with good handling and easy manoeuvrability and I get more waves from bikers than I do on my GS.
It is very good, the best in the 350 field. Do you think worth the extra cost new compared to the ADV350 which has more useful under seat storage? Depends on what you need.
@@timothyrobson3325 I’m not sure I’ve never tried the Honda. When I got my C400 there just weren’t any adv 350’s available, the price difference wasn’t that much as I got a used model with only 395 miles for £5600. For the little extra there’s heated grips and seat, twin discs at the front with steel hoses and radial mounted brakes. As to storage I have fitted a top box, not the BMW one that was just too expensive for what I needed, for a little over £100 got the SHAD adjustable box that looks good suits the bike and is easily lifted off as only use it occasionally, my pillion prefers the security of the box being there.
@@SouthWest-jj8yuI agree with you 100%. The c400 GT can be a bargain second hand. I got a similar deal. It is a better scooter than the ADV except the Honda has a lot of space under the seat.
WAIT 2-3 YEARS WHEN THE PROBLEMS BEGIN .EVERY YEAR A SERIOUS DAMAGE.NOT MENTIONING THE VERY EXPENSIVE SPARE PARTS AND SERVICES.OWNER OF A C400X SINCE AUGUST 2019
I got a older Sym 400i, put it through everything I could, even off road! Never let me down. Australia.
I am a new scooter convert after years on motorcycles of all varieties. At 72 I find my BMW C400GT to be perfect. You have to relearn a lot of things though, a good thing as it keps your brain active. When people ask why a scooter? I just smile and say, it's soo comfortable!
I own two big bikes, a 1300cc, and a 1500cc, and a Honda 250cc Elite Scooter 1985 with 14k original miles and it gets ALL my attention. I'm gonna trade my 1300cc in for a Maxi Scooter. I'm HOOKED again. I had a Honda 50cc scooter in the 80's and it was like being the king of high school.
Had ADV350 for exactly 2 years, 9.5k miles of leisure use and can’t think of any scoter I’d swap it for
That's fantastic! Could an X-ADV be on the horizon for you?
I have the Piaggio beverly 400. Incredible bike. My rides are long and fast 75mph. 200 miles between both my homes. Over the Washington Mountain passes. Great riding bike you won't be disappointed.
I just did a 600 mile ride on mine along SoCal's coast. It really is a solid machine! 🤙🤙
Nice concept KYMCO! Keep up the great work and BRING IT!
Totally agree 👍🏿
Thanks!
The Zontes maxi scooters (310 and 350) ....Aggressive looks/ high build quality and lots of options as well as plenty of bHP that beats them all!! And cherry on the top is the price tag!!
I would decently place it @ NO. 2
Zontes 501 G is the best
i agree with you i have zontes 350D now and it has around 38HP and really beast even better thatn zontes 350E due to its lighter wieght at 297KG and better acceleration
Oh I love my Burgman !! So steady , so comfortable, has loooots of space even to get bunch of groceries 😅
Tmax is the best scooter of all...👍👍
Curious about the Peugeot XP 400, particularly if the price comes down a bit. Would love to see your take on it, Bikematters
Ya the x-adv i have been drooling over wanted since came out however many years ago. Just teasing with stuff can not have or afford. Affordability figure out if ever came.
loving my Tmax 560 techmax yeah...
Think I will stick with my adv350 over the much pricier bmw. I am told it is a Kymco with bmw badges? Not sure how the bmw has made the number 1 spot as reviews for the adv350 appear more favourable.
It’s a Lincoln engine or something like that the same one that voge 400 scooter uses it’s Chinese
Adv350 way more quality built
I drove everything and I got the adv
It's copied by the Chinese (Loncin) from KYMCO, ridden both actually, the Chinese Loncin does a better job with the underseat storage as it is fixed. Performance is basically the same.
It's actually a chinese scooter
I'm having my doubts about TechMax and BMW400GT. Yamaha, is much more performant but BMW is very well balanced for the City and around. I am not a motorcycle guy. I love scooters for the freedom they offer you in urban mobility. Anyhow, Yamaha TMax is the scooter every guy would love to have it.
I couldn't recommend the BV 400 enough. Solid bike!
I vote for the scooter that I just bought, Suzuki Bergman 400. Fun to ride, affordable and is a head turner on the street.
How many of the japanese scooters presented here, are still made and built in Japan?
I heard the maintenance costs for the BMW C400 GT is super high.
Nothing new, most GS riders will sell after 10,000 to 15,000 kms because of the high cost of maintenance
I think all main dealers are very expensive. Honda charge £90 for diagnostic (ECU). I think they should charge either free or £10. It just 1 minute job for small computer plug into the bike & found what is the problem.
I bought a service package, three services including the valve check - £500.
The burgman 650 had everything for the longest of rides you could have wanted. Shame thay stopped making them.
650 was king!
L ho avuto per 12 anni e 95mila km. Magnifico ,veloce e comodo, l'avrei voluto tenere ancora a lungo, ma improvvisamente s' e' rotto il cambio . Ho sempre fatto la manutenzione secondo le regole e presso concessionarie.
@@maurofranzero4100I haven't heard of a gearbox widespread problem, did you ever get the valve clearance checked prior to the problem?
@@yukonjack. ho sempre fatto manutenzione officine autorizzate, immagino controllassero .
Il mio era 2008.Forse l'uso prevalente in città ,accelera e frena, non ha aiutato.
They Did ? ? ?
I've owned two Burgman 650 Execs for a total of 11 years, and now a '23 C 400 GT for half a year (and a '22 C 400 GT for a year before that, which BMW swapped out for me, the result of a major engine malfunction). And, interspersed over the years, an R 850 R, a Valkyrie Interstate, a Victory Cross Country Tour, and my current backup bike, a Royal Enfield Meteor 350. I've also ridden the C 400 X on three Edelweiss tours now: Tuscany, Vienna, and, by special dispensation, the Ultimate Alps.
The main draw, for me, for the C 400 GT is its absolutely SUPERB handling. I think it has more lean angle than any of those other bikes (measured by my GoPro Hero11 as at least 43° left and 41° right). It's a twisty maven.
And I also like the looks of the GT. And the brakes are very good. And the engine has a good amount of pep, smoothness, and top speed (86 mph as spec'ed in the owner's manual, but 89 on level ground, per my GPS).
The bodywork construction of the GT is much better than on the 650 Burgman (and, from what I've read, that goes for the 400 Burgman, as well). BMW uses gobs of same-size Torx screws and expanding metal spring clips. Suzuki relies on tiny and thin plastic tabs and plastic pop-rivets, and the odd bolt. Definite quality on the Beemer.
And also a very important consideration for me is that the pillion accommodations are spot on for my wife. This encompassed the seat width and padding, the foot and leg positioning, and the flat pad on the optional BMW topcase. This was all wrong on the Execs, and forced me to go to a local upholsterer to remedy some of the shortcomings on the first one I owned.
The underseat full-face-helment-holding Flexcase is a wash. Nice to have for a lunch stop, but non-existent when riding, should you want to use it for storing something other than a helmet.
The lack of windscreen height adjustability is also kind of a wash. I almost never used the electric windscreen motors on the Execs, i.e., just left them -- aftermarket Clearviews -- in place. There are reasonable aftermarket sources for different windscreens for the GT, in addition to two BMW variants.
The shocks on the GT are nothing to brag about. Certainly better than on the Meteor (but that bike has tons of elemental back-road charm!).
BMW falls short here in many respects, though.
Biggest fail, IMO, is the lack of cruise control. We have a lot of wide-open spaces on this side of the pond, often needing to be traversed to get to the good stuff. I think it's a borderline sin to have a bike with THROTTLE-BY-WIRE and umpteen sensors and switches, and a nice TFT display, to NOT have cruise control. And it's not as if BMW doesn't know how to do the programming; almost all their other bikes have this. And they call this a Grand Tourer?
Second biggest fail is the sideways placement of the Schrader valves, in the "spoke" area. This precludes adding an external TPMS sensor to the front wheel, because it would smack into a brake caliper (and I actually have one FOBO sensor on the rear wheel -- the other sensor gathers dust on a shelf). BMW should either have TPMS as a factory option -- again, something they do for most of their other bikes -- or they should put the Schrader valves in the center of the rims, like everyone else does.
Also, the underseat storage area is kind of wonky. There's not a large area, but instead it's compartmentalized into a bunch of smaller ones.
And the TFT is not properly utilized, IMO. The engine RPMs can be viewed only on one screen that has very little other data, and so not viewed on the main screen that has all the other data. And it's very drab, compared to the colorful nature of, well, other Beemers and most every other bike that has a TFT screen.
I might have purchased the AK 550 if I could have found a dealer here with one in stock, within, say, 500 miles. No luck there. I understand from a few fellow ex-Burgman riders that it's a very good bike. But I won't order a bike that I can't at least sit on, and preferably with my wife out back, too.
And, years back, when Yamaha was selling the T-Max over here, I actually test-rode one at a rally (Americade). I liked it, very sporty, but I had a Burgman at the time, I think; in any case, I didn't need a second bike then. And wouldn't you know it, but as Yammy kept improving that scoot, they also stopped selling it in North America.
So, FWIW, I would've put the AK 550 and the T-Max ahead of the C 400 GT. Much as I (mostly) love the GT and its handling, I keep reading good things about the Kymco and the Yammy, too. And they have factory cruise (something I added -- MC Cruise -- to my first Burgman, and something that the Victory bagger had stock), maybe handling nearly as good, razzle-dazzle use of the TFT, good underseat storage, and Schrader valves in the right place.
Of course, that's for some open-space riding. If I lived in an urban jungle, I might opt for a Vespa 300, as they're nimble and eye-catching, at least to me. And speaking of urban bikes, I've never ridden the CE-04: they may be fast off the line, but I did sit on one in a showroom and thought a sheet of 3/4" plywood might be more comfortable on my tush.
Argh, they're all good, as long as you're enjoying yourself.
You wanted comments, well, those are mine.
Mon préféré le Honda Forza 750.❤ Le maxiSym est beau ,mais que vaut-il ? Le service après vente ?🤔
Merci pour une éventuelle réponse 😊
Cheers m8, great video! So far, Burgman was my favorite. One question for you, or others in the comment section. Has anyone heard of QJ Fort 350? If so, what is your opinion? Cheers!
The Scarabeo 500GT was the King but now that its gone a Piaggio beverly 400 is a good pick!
Absolutely I already ride and electric motorcycle and that BMW one looks super to me. On the other hand, going electric on a car especially if you live up north where it gets really cold in winter never made any sense to me because today batteries are not made for this conditions but a motorcycle you don't ride it in winter so it is actually a good thing
Thanks for the comment!
In Australia, the Kymco AK550 premium is way more powerful than the TMax Yamahaha and about $5,000 cheaper for similar features: electric screen, cornering ABS, cruise control and phone connectivity. I own one and love the AK. Now have 9000 kilometres on it.
I own a burgman 650 and its just insane its discontinued.Now with all the tech thats available its time for a comeback
The forza 750 is way better scooter than most of the table, yet nobody seems to like a conventional maxiscooter.
but it's not really a scooter lol, it's much more like a motorcycle
@@skillfuldabest how is it not a scooter? Same riding position, good seat, good aerodinamic protection, luggage capacity. It is the exact definition of a scooter other tan being dct instead of a belted cvt
@@pollrodri6254 exactly, it doesn’t have a cvt, instead it has the exact engine and chain drive as another actual motorcycle
@@skillfuldabest yeah, that is why most ppl buy it. It is a scooter without the expensive maintenance of a scooter. But your reasoning does not make sense to me. It is like saying a Polo gti is not a compact car because it shares the EA888 engine with the passat. The engine and transmission do not solely define a car or motorcicle.
@@skillfuldabestand also, that would make the X-ADV not a scooter, which he clearly considers in the video
Still no top box bracket for the ak550 premium, bought mine last year and still haven’t done any “touring” who wants to with backpacks?
I made my own out of lean and steel strips. Bolted on a 33 Givi box and use my AK premium all the time. The rear hand rails are only plastic so drill holes in them to take your home made rack. AK is awesome handler and fun, more powerful than Yamahaha!
The most underated scooter was Sym maxsym 600i ABS. Cost as new 6000 euros , with huge storage , usb charger port, heated grips etc/
Awesome! I can finally afford a BMW! All jokes aside, GREAT job guys. Great looking affordable scooter!
KYMCO XCITING 400S / 400VS
AK550❤🔥
Cool vid Cool list but bra..............................You forgot to mention Zontes they have 3 37hp 350cc's & 3 new 500CC'S For 2024 model year.
My kymco premium 550 is awesome
My 2023 BMW C400GT bought new has broken down twice in 12 months.
First time they didn’t know, second time fuel injector pump.
It’s working now but I won’t buy another in the future
The Honda SH-350i is made in Italy😂.
Sad!
Chinese scooter, Voge
KYMCO is the best all around maxi scooter! Its got the looks, the power, and everything else you need at an affordable price! Be sure to flood the states with them. Thank you!
It's difficult nowadays to determine what is a scooter and what is a "proper" motorcycle. It used to be easy, a scooter was a machine where you could mount it simply by sliding your leg through the gap between the seat and the front forks. Handy if you are wearing a skirt. A motorcycle on the other hand, meant you had to throw your leg over the seat. It seems this is no longer the case.
I bought a new BMW C400GT as I wanted something manoeuvrable, no clutch/gears, good MPG / KPL for nipping to the shops or heading out on the twistier roads for some fun, however a 350cc single cylinder engine lacks the power for distance on highways/motorways. I'm looking at trading in my 6 month old machine for a more powerful engine to put the smile back on my face. The SYM looks like it could be the answer but the limited dealership numbers concern me.....
The best I've seen is the Burgman 650. Crying shame they no longer make it.
It is a massive shame
@@BikeMatters a shaft driven maxi scooter built from off the shelf parts. I came so close to owning one.
WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? FOR A PERSON WHO'S 6'2/6'3 AROUND 340-360 LBS.
The problem is for me is the seat hight is to high and wide for me, I sat on the Honda ADV 350, I could just reach the road with my toes.
They are wide...
What about the Chinese scooters zondes 350E and others
BMW c650 GT , had one and it is bad that they don´t make them anymore.
Surprised Vespa GTS not on the list though I suppose that it may not be classed as a maxi but at 300 cc it should be
Is the Beverley a maxi scooter?
I would disagree too but since it's a 300cc it would put a fight within the Maxiscooter range
Bring the Sym to the states! We want more options dammit!
They used to be here, had Amazing quality scoots on par with Kymco, also built in Taiwan with ceramic coated one piece cylinder heads. Not many in the U.S. have heard of them and don't realize they are worlds apart from a low budget cheap Chinese💩 bike. They have been in the game since 1954 & used to work alongside Honda and still have their quality in mind they're also HUGE overseas and even make cars. I still have my 2007 SYM RV 250 painted in Dupont electric blue thought about selling it but it's too much fun being flickable yet extremely dependable. It is parked next to my 2017 Burgman 650 bought on the weekend of St🍀 Patrick's Day 2024 in Pearl bracing white. Damn they are both sexy.😍😹 Both run great and were bought used, $5000 for the Suzuki from a Very decent stand up honest 66-year-old man with 24,000 cross country Highway miles (with many extras) & $2300 for the SYM (bought in 2016) also from an older gentleman only had 3500 miles @ the time (mostly local city miles) I did find one decent TH-cam video on a red 2009 SYM identical to mine except the color.✌️
Has an xmax250 and loved it but the weight of these are horrific
I still miss having the Suzuki Burgman AN650 . In my mind the best of the super scooters.
Zontes E350 💪🏼 37ks
We don't get any of the Hondas that you mentioned in Australia. Shame I liked them all!
zontes 350e, the best of price, gadgets and comfort, well worth being in any list.
Zontes 350?
For me a scooter has a cvt and belt, nice and clean to use and easily replaced myself. Love the Forza 750 but the gearbox will cost a fortune eventually! Best scooter i had was an SYM but the parts were impossible to get, now use Forza 300 but they have a lot of issiues that bug me!
You can sit well on many scooters, but you only sit in a burgman...
Quality of the parts and comfort while riding is unbeatable!
Voge sr4max
Still waiting on Benelli making a bigger one and bringing to Usa. Be interesting to see how many other people here have a Zafferano like me. Probably not many.
You didn’t include the 3 wheel scooters like the Yamaha or the MP3 I think these Scooters offer more in someways including here in the States they do not require a Motorcycle License to operate and not to forget the additional traction of a third wheel.
wish HONDA SILVERWING 600 continued production......but the HONDA FORZA 750 is well built too....
Too right!
As much as I love my PCX160, I'd immediately replace it with the ADV350 if Honda would just bring it to the States!
Japanese scooter, l love it .. x adv 750 or else adv 350... quality & durability..no question,,price good..
Would love to see a review of the bmw, nothing much out there
Try searching for the Loncin SR4 where the BMW was rebadged from.
We'd love to get one in!
How was the Aprilia srv 850? Never seen one
The Suzuki Burgman 650 is the best scooter ever!
I’m giving peak Honda and fey Meyers Honda an excellent service rating!😅
The Honda Forza 750 and X-ADV 750 also do something none of the others can, accept a multitude of luggage and lighting options making the machines totally adaptable! The true scooters mentioned are one trick ponies with maybe a larger rear box! SO, yes it maybe time to ask peoples opinions, 'What qualifies as a maxi scooter?'
Side luggage and rear top box cases can be fitted to pretty much all of these. So can lights.
Anything above 400cc with automatic transmission and under-seat storage is a maxi-scooter in my book.
Maxiscooter is a big scooter with a CVT. Might as well add the NC750 with DCT as a maxiscooter as well if you continue that argument. Do we also call the KYMCO KRV 180 a motorcycle now because it uses also a chain? Admit or not the DCT is on a league of it's own.
@@kevinmanaloto306 Exceptions.
@@kevinmanaloto306 it is awkward territory this 'what is it?' game, TMAX is definitely a grown-up scooter cos of its looks but the Forza 750 is a motorcycle in drag, if one is allowed to say such a thing!!!
Where is the zontes 500e
The Best: X-ADV 750
The Best of all time: Aprilia SRV 850
I always considered the step through design to be an undisputable characteristic of a maxi-scooter. That line is becoming blurrier and blurrier.
I‘m about 6‘3 ft - 1.9m. Whats the scooter to go not looking like a man on a child’s bike?
Tomos Atx. Check it.
I am 6'6" 230lbs. If the people who review scooters will measure the distance from the handlebars to the footboard everyone should be able to measure the top of their knee to the bottom of their foot and will be able to know if they will fit.
The top of my knee to the bottom of my foot with boots on is 26 inches with about 3 inches to spare.
I own and fully enjoy my 2022 Kymco AK 550. I've raced and beat hellcats on city streets with short distance advantages.
Biggest issue with BMW C400 is the flexicase. It has to be up while riding which greatly reduces storage. Also made in China which is not ideal. For me, Piaggio Bev 400 is spot on. Great handling, excellent power to weight ratio and well priced.
The Loncin SR4 which the BMW CT400 Is based from has a fixed underseat storage different on how BMW had theirs made.
It’s made in Taiwan at kymco factory but to BMW specs. It’s fine.
XMax 300 is better option for a bit higher price. More room for sitting and two person, more storage, more legs position,better comfort overall
Hey, what neon yellow helmet 🪖 is that sitting next to the BMW CE 04? 🤔 Also, the BEST maxi scooter has to be the originator…..the Honda Helix CN250! 🛵 💛
Review pergeotscooter
Fingers crossed!
On new X Maxes:
2022 Tech Max was beautiful scooter. Was a proud owner of it (although painting is cheap, it's very scratchy). Complete digital board, which started from 2023, is so ugly, it's like some cheap, in prototype phase, Chinese scooter. You don't know if Classic or Tech Max is more terrible: Classic has that one screen and the upper part looks like something is missing (which is actually a part that comes on Tech Max), but Tech Max looks like it has too many screens, like some failed hybrid of screens lol. Only worth from Yamaha now is T Max, but it's too expensive, so bye Yamaha, I will miss you 😭
Piaggio X10
If BMW would have slightly better range, around 200 Km+ and pull back the C650 sport from retirement with the electrified heart, I'd buy it today.
Tmax is the best scooter in the world untill now big companies didn’t manage to do what tmax is capable off only who tried it knows
sucks ass we dont get any good scooters here in the US. Just the small ones and 3 big ones. the 300xmax and the ak 550, burgman 400
BMW c400 is a much better packaged Voge sr4 max. Engine, body, lots of parts are the same. So if you wanna cheaper choice
, which is close to BMW search for Voge sr4.
Not a chance I will not buy a electric bike
When you say best but consider the price, then, you are just giving us more of value overview not an actual list of best maxis. In such case the SYM is obviously number 1.
Also, it’s a bit hard to give a subjective opinion as, as far as I know you’ve only tested a few of these, AK, Tmax, Burgman.
Also, not only is the XADV not available in the US, besides the Burg, AK, Beverly and 2 BMWs none others are.
Not considering the price, just considering which scooter is the best at being a maxi scooter, my list is:
Tmax, Forza and XADV, Kymco AK, MaxSym, Xmax and AdvForza 350, BV400, Burgman 400, Peugeot, BMW C400GT.
200+ Kgs for a scooter?? that's not going to sell the wife. My 31yo ST1100 Pan is a nasty 300+ Kg and a nightmare to get in and out of the old garage so considering a scooter for the 100Mile commute. A 125 is a bit slow on the motorways so a Maxi makes sense, but that 200+ kg.... makes it hard not to consider a 600cc motorcycle
Honda forza 125 ftw
Top 10 125cc Maxi Scooters coming soon!
Kymco AK 550 resigns supreme. Never enough credit is given.
Because its so expensive, nearly as much as the Forza 750 and Honda is much more of a known brand.
Da king of scooters is pricey and only elites can buy
14K for the T-MAX is just ridiculous. You can get a 2024 NT1100 DCT , or a 2024 Arica Twin, for less. Even a 2024 Forza 750 is less!
Honda x-adv 750 is the best
Yamaha, you got a good thing going, but the price is outrageous for a scooter. Keep all the unnecessary tech, and give us the cc's and the asthetics (which is the appeal of it anyways), and a scooter friendlier price tag and you'll sell more. We dont need all the tech, and nobody wants to pay 14,000 for a scooter no matter how good it looks. Coprende?
@artstar 5994 Well said, btw I say all new things aren't necessary, just because you can doesn't mean you should, also If you want to be even MORE invisible to the two ton cagers pick battleship gray as your next color for your scooter, you know the same color as the road your riding on so you really blend in!!🫥🤤💥 Can only hope they will be riding in high-vis gear, it may not look cool to those that only think in the short-term but neither are hospital beds/bills!!✌️🇺🇸
Can't believe yamaha xmax is not on your list. It would be a #1 on the list when it comes to under seat storage , fuel consumption, reliability and cost of a unit 😂
Agree
C400gt
Ak 550 premium is way much better and faster than that.
You are not familiar with scooters and no wonder you are mistaken with specs.
I will never sell my t max gp 500 2005 :)
2023 Yamaha Xmax 300 beats all these Maxi scooters ....sorry it's the best !!!! $6299 out the door !!!!
So…..voge sr4 is the winner 😮
It is for lower cost of ownership
Be warned MASSIVE SERVICE costs for. BMw c400 gt
I hate living in the USA. For some reason, people in the USA are clueless about maxi-scooters.
The ADV 350 is not good for off road useless better on the street indeed.