Harley-Davidson Sportster S vs Yamaha MT-09 SP
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- Harley-Davidson Sportster S vs Yamaha MT-09 SP! Checkout the dyno battle between these two after this video! - • Harley-Davidson Sports...
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I loved my sportster s until I became disabled last October. I actually had the MT09 at the same time. I had to sell both because of my condition. Only thing I didn’t like about the sportster s is the rear section. It was always dirty from riding. Not a lot there to protect your clothes/ jacket. Always got the back of my jacket dirty and road grime on the fender. My MT09 couldn’t keep up with the sportster s. My poor brother-n-law tried and so did my son. My son has a 2021 Kawasaki 636 and light to light I would smoke him depending on the distance. The MT09 and the sportster s are both excellent bikes. Can’t go wrong with getting one or the other. Ride safe everyone.
nobody asked about your disability
Hi, did you become disable because of the Sportster or the MT09?
@@p.c.h.6721 No. I had a massive heart attack in October 2021. When they saved my life they severed my femoral nerve in my right leg. So I can’t hold up a motorcycle anymore. Thanks for asking.
@@davechris1789
So they saved your life but they severed the femoral nerve of the right leg, I guess that’s a good trade of.
Hope you’ve found some other hobby to keep yourself entertained.
I told my wife about your comment thinking that you had an accident with one of the bikes, so my wife said “you’re not buying the Sportster” now I can tell my wife you never had an accident with the bikes, so let’s see what she says, I like the Sportster a lot! Thanks for explaining 👍
Hey man I'm really sorry to hear that hope you found something else to bring you happiness and fulfillment
As a sport bike guy who test rode that sportster… I was shocked at how amazingly smooth and fast it was. Definitely a bike for sport guys to try
I bought a 2023 and absolutely love it. Feels like I'm flying everytime I open it up.
big change in heat pouring off ?
@@ed.t.hansen6499 yes but no… the exhaust is right behind your leg and you can feel it but it’s not an issue
Sportster S - Absolutely love the direction they are going with this lineup. Agree 100% they need a street fighter set up along with the muscle drag platform
Like Ducatis hypermotard
best bike I've ever ridden, friggin love it. Just wish it was reliable...
Like Buell
agree, theyre due for an FTR competitor
man that sportster engine is gonna KILL when yall put it into more of a naked/streetfighter setup.
Great video footage, audio, and review of the bikes! Both of you did a great job of talking through the pros and cons of the bikes as well as showing us great riding footage. I do have to say we have to keep in mind that the MT-09 is a lighter bike and bigger riders will not get the same performance out of the lightweight naked bikes as they would a heavy V-twin Harley Davidson. I'm 5'7" and roughly 155 lbs with gear on, on my 2015 FZ-09 there's never been a bike or vehicle that has pulled on me. I do have some upgrades on my bike but I have not flashed my ECU so my top speed is limited. I know from experience some heavier riders don't get the same performance out of the bike and they also bring up needing brake and suspension upgrades. I have zero complaints and all smiles from my bike!!!
Absolutely love the styling on the Sportster S and I am surprised by the power delivery on the HD..!! wow!!
Dang, I knew the Sportster S could move, but wasn’t expecting all that
Great stuff! Can't wait for the Sportster S build and how it turns out.
That's why I love my CMX1100DCT. Just what you said at the 8:00 mark. It's really hard to beat what you get with it for the price you pay. I rarely ride in Sport Mode in traffic around my house because it's just too easy to climb up onto the trunk of the car in front of me instantly.
That Sportster is surprisingly quick though.
Ooooh snap I just watched the video of you guys talking about this last night. Catching the stream on this one is great!
This is perfect timing , I currently own a 2017 MT09 and am about to test ride the sportster s as I’ve wanted since they teased the photos , I’m sure it’s going to be a hard decision!!!
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this type of comparison! I’m in between in which to buy right now.
This is a really good review from short to taller rider review of a bike. You should do more of these.
I switched to mid controls almost immediatley on my S. Highly, HIGHLY, recomend it, allows you to really get your butt off the seat for bumps and shift your weight better through corners. Feels much more like a naked with the mids.
Im 6'2" and about 300 lbs for refference
I did the same thing on my sportster s. It changed my ride drastically 👍
We're def gonna switch to mids!
I'm 6'2" as well, is it small for you? I've owned a triumph Bonneville bobber and it was great but slightly small for me
The forward controls really don't suit the bike at all. To be fair, forward controls suck on all bikes. It's just a look designers must think we want.
If I want that foot forward seating position, hwy pegs would be fine on a cruiser. Like how Hondas goldwing is built.
Needed to read this comment
Just came across this channel. Have no idea how I missed it. I have a sportster s and she is a fast. Sold my Honda rc 51 for it to slow down. Well that didn’t work. and started posting vids on the changes I am been making on the bike. Anyway glad I came across this channel. Good vid👍
I feel like them pulls should have been much much closer, would like to see a rider switch and comparison.. The MT09 can do 0-60 in.. 3s and 0-100 in 5s. Rider is a definitely a factor. Love seeing the comparison though
They switch riders at 13:07
Made my day. You used the term "of the get"
And other than myself, I've never heard another human use that.
Very cool.
The 2021 sp for that price is so nice. My fz09 was a champ but really needed the better fueling, quick shifter and abs. Now cruising on an ultra limited. When I can budget in a MT09 is a sure thing
Bro i just found a mt-09 gen2 with akra and quickshifter second handed, but i need to sell my 07 first. Hopefully i will get it sold on saturday!!!
This was a awesome review, so very random, but I love the random match ups. Honestly thought the mt09 would smoke the Harley 😅 really really surprised how far Harley has come. I’m not a anti-Harley guy, but iv honestly never thought of owning one until this review.
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
I’m exactly the same. I’m test riding one this coming weekend!
Really enjoyed this video. Picked up my Sporster S yesterday and god dam it’s quick!! Needs an exhaust though!!
Harley did the damn thing now we really need a naked and a real shit sports bike
Ive got a 2023 sportster s and absolutely love it. Its the 2nd bike ive bought and im so glad I did. Bought it right after my test ride and if you arent prepared it will make you scoot back. The fat tires make you feel squirrely and definetly makes you want to squid around and have fun.
Really excited to see what you turn the sporty into also have you ever compared the mt09 with the triumph speed triple ??
Great video man. Thanks for sharing!
I love these comparison vids!!
Short shifting the hell out of that 09 and gave him the hit.. Race a fair race
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This is the type of content that made me subscribe!
Guys, go to a tune on the Sportster s, max out the parameters, throttle response etc. Then with the bike in neutral hold traction control button until you get a solid light on the traction control. Take it out for a cruise and hold the F on. There is a significant difference in power then just the sport mode.
I have a 2019 Tracer 900GT and a 2021 HD Pan America special, both great bikes. All I can say I want the Rev-Max 1250 engine in a full fairing sport tourer like the FJR1300 but with chain drive.
I was looking for a comparison of exactly these 2 bikes today
Nice review, I like everything about the Sporster S. The Yamaha is a nice looking bike too.
Great video!! I'd really love to see a test ride on the Yamaha R7!
Out of curiosity, I want to see Goldzilla vs the sportster s in a roll race
That blue road glide I think it is a road glide. Got me thinking how the Blue Elephant project is coming along
Nothing related to vid but I’m taking my Apple Watch off when I ride now keeps thinking I’m dying and calling sos had to be on the phone with police for 30 mins 😂😂
I've had that happen, terrible 'oh sh!t' moment, lol
...🤔 i would be interested in seeing it compared to the MT-10.
Just subscribed, super curious about the hyper naked HD!!! Greetings from Portugal.
Wow I did not expect the Harley to easily walk off and leave the mt-09
It’s also like 8k more than a regular MT09 so
We posted prices of both right at the beginning, so….
I’m not sold on the new HD’s, had my heart set on a Sportster earlier his year but it didn’t do it for me. The older Sporters and 48’s looked like Harleys. I did look at the MT09 & 10, the 10 is insane, too much grunt for me, awesome for someone with bigger balls than me but I wouldn’t want to ride it in ‘Rain’ mode all the time as I’m an older dude but went for the XSR900 which suited me. Great comparison 👍
Sportster s is great. Would like to see how it pulls next to the FTR
I've been trying to buy one of those white VFRs for years..
That's the best bike built for the US IMO.. lol..
Plz, compare MT09 to Nightster. Then 2022 XSR900 to Nightster. Thanks. Keep up your great reviews.
Never been a cruiser guy but this seems worth a go
With mids the Sportster S looks like a really compelling bike.
Just bought an MT 09 SP this week, been looking around for awhile for one and just happened to walk into my local dealership and they had one in stock. Absolutely love this thing
Great vid Block. I’d love to see head that head pulls on the Sportster S vs Goldzilla.
Incoming!
The water cooled aspect is very appealing out here in Las Vegas for a daily rider. My TC is not a fan of the heat.
God that bagger giveaway looks sick. I can't wait for the chance to win
Did not expect that!
when you gonna do the Hyper naked S Build? love to see that !! - also is it really worth the extra 4 grand? you didnt say?
What do you film this comparison with ? Great video quality, thanks.
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Great episode can't wait to sena connect and ride out Florida style 😎🤟🦾
The new sportster s is really quick. Id be a buyer if it came with mid controls
Was a bit surprised since I'm literally Justin size, the sportster s is so small in person and would definitely prefer mid pegs on it. I think my z900 would definitely be a closer comparison though 👍
I own a 21 z900. And I’ve test ridden the new sporty. The sportster S will walk away from my z900 off the line. But the Z will pass it on the top end
The Sportster S is claiming nearly 30 more ft/lbs of torque so straight line pull absolutely. The cornering prowess of the Sportster is what I'd like to see. The large front tire and low peg height would be curious to see what it's capable of in more aggressive riding.
Doesn’t have near the lean angle and flickability as the MT09, but actually maneuvers very well as per the profile of the front tire (conical shape vs traditional.) MT09 would still win in the twisties though I think! 😁
From your test I think the start-up and go HD sportsters S will lead . Maybe the traction is the key here. If MT09 is engineered to put all that power at start up and go with such low weight and smaller wheel base it will be no easy to control ( if you seen some sport car vs super sport bikes- sports bike struggle to keep the front end down at start up and go). The sportster S with longer wheel base and heavier stance( plus powerful torque engine) will lead at the start. But good to see sportster S fast. Can you test with MT10. Can you test on highway straight line . I always preferred heavier Harley-Davidson. I tried the MT09 and felt it so light to be uncomfortable( felt like a gravel on the road will be catastrophic for the rider).
@@BlockheadMoto look up kodlins 1 inch lift for the sportster s. It’s not a massive difference but defiantly better lean angle
In light to light “dick races” the Sportster S will come out ahead of some sport bikes with its high torque and light weight. The Sportster S follows the platform of the V-Rod, and it’s nothing new anymore for Harley to step just a little bit out of their normal realm sometimes. They bolt a kick-butt, liquid cooled engine on to what amounts to the rest of the bike being a stylish but mediocre package and toss a $15,500.00 price tag on it. Professionally ridden at a strip, the Sportster S and MT-09 will run about the same times in the quarter mile. But throw a few curves in the road in real world riding, and the performance shortcomings of the Sportster S will become insurmountable by comparison. The MT-09 costs $6000.00 less than a Sportster S, so it's not hard to logically deduct what you're paying more for with Harley- Style and a name.
A friend of mine has a sportster S and tried following me in the twisties. Went wide after scraping and nearly went off the road. They suck for actual fun riding
I had my preferences, when I first saw the Sportster S!
But now that it has sunk into my mind, I like it just the way it is! I like the long wheelbase it has, for a Sportster, but still capable of wheelies!
Not that I'll be doing wheelies on purpose, but if the front end comes up while giving it the throttle, it'll be fine with me! Seems like a fun bike!
How good does it cruise at highway speeds? (70 - 80mph)
Anything past 80mph and you're really fighting wind with your body. I've been up to 133mph and I was hanging on for dear life because of wind resistance. I'm sure if I hugged the tank it would be a bit better to deal with.
That being said it felt super stable at those speeds, no death wobble or anything.
I just wish the sound was better. I love my sportster s and have a slip on and fender elimator ordered.
I'm getting one I was on the fence but after watching this I'm sold.
Wish in future harley models they will come out with a lighter weight model with standard size front & rear tires for handling.
just bought my sportster S, That motor is a beast.
Pretty tough to compare when the sportster is over 350 cc's bigger and over $3000 more. Obviously the MT is a way better value. Even the MT-10 has more power and a smaller engine than the sportster s.
Block, what do you think about pillion seat support for the sportster s? Deciding between these two now but I take my girl with me on a lot of rides… don’t know if there’s passenger seat support yet or if it’s any good
For a more comparative acceleration, the MT09 should have started race with higher RPMs (like 7k+).
Yeah, I didn't understand this demonstration either.
I’d say that seating configuration gives that Sportster S a way scarier feeling while accelerating
It would be really interesting to see the new Nightster vs the MT-09 since it would be a 975cc vs 890cc. Different style of bike obviously, but the motor size is a lot more equal match up than the 1250 Sportster S.
horsepower difference is massive though.
Its not a cubic inch differences that makes bikes math each others, for example, SuperDuke 1290 have very small engine but not fight 1200cc bikes, or BMW Nine T with 1200 approximately, It doenst fit even with smaller 1000cc bikes, Honda CB1300 doenst fight 1340cc Hayabusa, theres alot of examples.
the rev range is a huge difference too im pretty sure the mt 09 is in D mode 2 which is a slower throttle response
The mt09 would walk a nightster. My fiancé just got one. It's an awesome bike but its not even close to my sportster s. They made the nightster alot more beginner friendly
@@davisasantos6739 numbers wise, the MT-10 is still a closer match though it is still 40lbs lighter. The Sportster S has something more akin to a mutant Ducati v4 as it's powerplant, a good match for the i4 in the 10 (the 09 is a triple, runs closer to the Supersport class). Put someone light on the Harley and Block on the Yamaha, should settle the weight differences. Then it's off to the races.
I am going to have to find someone with a Sportster S. I really don’t see myself losing to one.
lol
It’s got 360cc more displacment and makes crazy torque off the line. It comes down to the rider. But with the same person back to back the sporty is gonna be faster in a straight line
@@toofastnobrakes I see someone scared to twist the throttle on one bike but comfortable twisting it on the other
My question is how would the sportster stack up against something a little closer in the displacement department. Bring out the litre bike! MT10!!
Definitely the Sportster S for me. 🤘🏼
Do a similar video but with the Goldzilla & Sportster S !!
Love my Sportster S in black!
And the winner is..........Both Bikes!! Enjoy the ride! That was dope.
Let’s get the FTR & Sportster S on a video to compare those beasts!!!
Can you do a comparison between the Speed Twin 1200 vs MT09 SP
MT09 is just so much value for the money and proven reliability. It's also cheaper to insure because it's not a liter bike yet pulls down low better than a liter bike.
True that! Great value for what you get 🤘🏼
2nd gear on this gen 2 cp3 is detuned for euro compliant with a proper tune it might be a little closer on the straight line. with that said I own a xsr900 23' I love the sportster S maybe someday ill own both.
When you were doing test hits the MT-09 should have been in first gear. Second gear just seemed like RPMs were too low to even come close. A 1st gear pull from 25MPH would have given the 09 a much better chance when Block was riding.
Homie looked scared to do a pull at higher RPM
@@issaf3676 yeah he seemed gun shy.
And he didn't have the engine in full power mode.
Just because we've seen the mt09 next to goldzilla, need to take the sportster s and goldzilla to Mexico and see who wins. The give away road glide is freaking gorgeous
Only a Harley with 1250cc would be compared to a 900cc metric bike. Great video nonetheless.
Edit: love what Harley has done with the revolution liquid cooled engine on the PanAm, Sportser S, and Nightster
Lol well their 975Cc doesn't make much less powerr than this MT09 either
@@TheAsheybabe89 yeah that would be a much better comparison
hp wise...what makes harleys is the torque, at the low and mid range. a lot of bikes show as much torque as a harley but you cant just twist the throttle while cruising and bolt. usually a downshift is required.
Don't forget the mt90 is a 3 banger putting out less hp than the twin, plus that twin already is capable of 150hp without a displacement up grade. So hd is doing a nice job with this engine.
@@kenwalker4682 ok, what’s your point?
Would be the MT09 for me just for ergonomics and agility. And I have three Harleys in my garage!
The Bronx, if produced, should really get the big engine!
It would really be beneficial for HD!
I ride a 2022 z900 and I would love to see a comparison between the mt-09
Need a video on that blue and gold bagger
Really like the Gage on the sportster S
I did my oil change this weekend in my sportster 883 and everything went smooth. I started my bike up and was running fine, All of a sudden the oil cap shot out and some of the oil to. Maybe I over filled it? Is that even possible?
Isnt the top speed of the sportster s 120? The mt09 is faster according to other tests online?
Hey Block, my question is: if the Sportser S was out before you bought the MT09, which one would you have bought? great vid!
Mt10
Did you still have the MT in D-mode 2 during the races?
Rode many Harleys and other makes. I'm 6'1 220 and currently looking at a 20' Fat Boy. Riding majority of my time on highway for 2 hour trips and longer. I've always felt I prefer bigger frame bikes like the Softail and touring due to comfortability and my preferred riding position. Thoughts on if I should give the Sportster S a shot?
I have a 2018 Ultra Classic and purchased the Sportster S as a second "fun" bike. I'm 5' 10" and 220. The Sporster S is insanely fun to ride, but I can't see myself doing more than an hour at a time on the bike.
Hey blockhead…I would love to see a gear video. More on the film side. Like what camera do you use. How do you keep it charged. The microphone you use with it. I am 19 years old. And I want to get a motorcycle. And I feel like a camera is one of the things a motorcycle rider should have in case if something were to happen. I have to go pros but they don’t seem to stay charged a very long time.
Never mind. Found the videos you made
Haha hope the vids help!
Great video!
the Block Fighter
having rode the sportster s during my harley dealerships demo day, i knew the outcome of this video before even watching lmao sportster s is no joke. it's ridiculous
I love my sportster s my only complaint would be I can't ride longer then 3-4 hours without starting to hurt and the bumps 😣 other then that I wouldn't trade it other then a better version of its self
Cool video. But can you try it against a Ktm super moto 1290 …. Or a mt10 would have been a bit more fair .
Harley has really stepped up thou !! The new sportster S is looking like the cruiser to have
I think the ktm would be over kill. Pretty sure the mt10 could take it
@@danmancino22 the Ktm would sound better doing it thou :)
Mt 09 all day. It’s more fun. Idc about straight away
They’re both fun bikes for sure 👍🏼
I really do like the sportster S but not being able to ride two up and have limited storage options kinda makes me not want to get it
Which would you recommend sportster s or mt10 for all around satisfaction
Does the mt09 have a flash? I know the second gear is pretty limited in stock form
Both bikes make similar horsepower. Sportster around 80 pounds heavier but 300 cc torque advantage
I know it’s not related but can we get some love for the 1200 iron.