I just watched your vdeo because I'm in the process of buying a '24 one. Non SP. For context, I come from two 1290 Super Adventure, after a 990 SMT. So, one reason for the MT-09 was that I was looking for something simpler, cheaper, lighter (and with less wind protection, so that I have to ride slower). So, when pulling the trigger on the Yamaha, I had to decide wether or not I wanted to wait for the SP to be available. And I happily chose to go for the regular MT-09. Because I'm heavy. 120 kg heavy. And while I'm sure that the SP's suspension is better (although it's not Ohlins at the front...), I'm also convinced that the SP's suspension are set for a 75 kg rider, as well. Just with better overall quality. So even with the SP, I would need to respring both the shock and the forks for good handling. And here is the kicker: a good shock would cost me around the 6-800 euros mark, while good springs for the fork would be around 200 euros. Well below the premium for the SP, for a bike that would actually fit my weight and my riding. Anyway, I should get the MT in a week or two. I will test it properly this summer (including a track day), and decide if I want to work on the suspension during the winter... or wait and see what the R9 looks like when it comes out. As a sidenote, I test rode the '24 MT-09 and the MT-10 back to back, and even if the 10 is more stable and a lot more powerful, I felt much better on the 09 overall, considering that it will be my only bike. Much lighter, much more practical, much more fuel efficient, better dash... This bike, in its regular trim, was a no brainer for me. I will miss my LC8, that's for sure, but eh... Cheers from France.
You have to be a pretty good HiPo rider to notice the SP difference. I have '23 XSR9 and wondering if the Gold anodized front Forks are the same KYB's as on mine? AFAIK the Ohlins rear is the main difference. I don't think a passenger is ever going on mine, so the remote Ohlins doesn't make sense in my case. The Rear Preload w/Rebound Adj only on the XSR does a great job for me. Looking for a Video which compares the MT-09 vs XSR9 rear swing arm differences.
Great to see your view on this bike! I've got a MT-09SP on order for 2023. I'm excited what updates they'll add to it for next year. Switching from a '21 MT-07 great bike but I'm ready for something bigger and with a bit more umph.
@@mattyh7060 he gave a hint in an earlier bid, the one about starting a channel. Search for such and such a camera reviews, but I haven't got around to it. Too many great bike vids on this channel. And I haven't got time for yet another hobby! 😂
I love my MT09 only had 3 months on it last year....can't wait for bike season this year. Got a new Dominator GP3 exhaust to go on before the fun begins 👌🏴
ive just bought a brand new 23' mt09SP from Albury NSW. Love the bike, I find the factory mirrors fanastic, great view behind, i dont get why lots of people want to change them, ive seen some aftermarket ones that look like wifi router amtennas haha. Ive just done 1,000kms on the bike and have been keeping the quickshift under 5k revs, today just been playing in the 5k revs + with quickshift and she sings, easily gets to 100. And shes so numble in the twisties (with the SP suspension), Horrible turn circle in the shed (compared to interceptor 650). cheers from Australia
I have same bike, even same color. Love mine, I've had it just over a year now and I pretty much ride it daily even though winter months. It's a ball and I'm still learning how the bike reacts to certain modes. Unfortunately with everything on mode 1 it will loop 💯. Didn't think it was supposed to allow you to do so but we are still learning which modes is best for what we are doing. Thanks for the video bro 👍
I've just traded my 2016 MT09 which I bought new for a brand new 2022 MT10. I loved the 09 but the 10 is a whole different level. It's nice having suspension that works. The gen 1 09's were like a jet powered pogo stick.
hahaha jet powered pogo stick is so true - I use mine at the track so shelled out the extra cash for after market fully adjustable suspension and had my shop suspension guru tune it for my weight and riding. It's amazing with suspension tuned. Haven't ridden the MT10 and afraid to go ride it because I'm sure I'll love it. I owned the 07 for a bit before the 09
It would be good if you could do an review/comparison of the Kawasaki Z900? The Z900 is more likely to be more completely stable in the corners, so there is no need for an steering damper. And has the advantage of an 17 litre tank, which would be better for touring. Remember the MT 09 only has an 14 litre tank. Although the Z900 does not have an quickshifter. I guess the Z900 is one of the main competitors to the MT 09 along with the current Street Triple...
Test ride both. I promise you will fall in love with the MT. Why? Because it's simply more fun to ride. The z900 is like any other 4 cylinder bike I have tried. It's fine but it isn't that much fun. You have to rev the crap out of it and it is just bland sort of.
Sean Budby 0 seconds ago My cuz it’s a tft screen not a lcd screen. Another best option is Yamaha have add on heater grips that are plug in play an the display will come up on the screen. I got my 22sp back in 2022 for the same ride away price as a standard 09, lucky I knew the dealer lol.
Tried both and the SP is not worth it imo. The cruise control has no point on a hooligan bike. And the suspension was fine on the SP but I didn't find it actually added anything. Don't like the paint on the SP either. But for someone that intend to squeeze every millisecond out on that twisty bits I suppose it is may improve times a tiny bit. For me, I would get the standard one and spend the money on gear, other upgrades or whatever.
Love my 21 mt09 so but the handlebars wobble under high speed/acceleration. Almost wishing I went with something more sporty for my riding style and preferences
Where's your sfv2 comparison? Time to get onto 890 duke R and superduke, and new mt-10, and all other goodies, want all the videos as a tuono v4 and 690 SMC r owner.
I just bought a mt09 sp and I tried the standard mt09. Honestly the standard felt really good to me and my weight is 78kg. They only had one sp in stock and I bought it, I haven’t tried it but it can only get better. Regarding the Hooligan. My god! I rode like a total idiot and this bike’s really makes you want to hoon around 😂 love it and can’t wait to try my own😛weather is terrible here👎🏻👎🏻
I had the sv 650.. now on a mt09 sp agree with u guys the mt is a beast .. but that v twin had a lot of character and i could wind it out more here in switzerland on the small and slow roads
@@Samenotter in SV650 defence it looks gorgeous, at least the one I got. On the contrary I don’t particularly like the way the MT09 looks, but it’s very subjective
I'm loving my SP the additional cost to get cruise control and the upgraded suspension was worth every cent, what a cool channel.
think you need a steering dampener with the upgraded suspension?
I just watched your vdeo because I'm in the process of buying a '24 one. Non SP. For context, I come from two 1290 Super Adventure, after a 990 SMT. So, one reason for the MT-09 was that I was looking for something simpler, cheaper, lighter (and with less wind protection, so that I have to ride slower). So, when pulling the trigger on the Yamaha, I had to decide wether or not I wanted to wait for the SP to be available. And I happily chose to go for the regular MT-09. Because I'm heavy. 120 kg heavy. And while I'm sure that the SP's suspension is better (although it's not Ohlins at the front...), I'm also convinced that the SP's suspension are set for a 75 kg rider, as well. Just with better overall quality. So even with the SP, I would need to respring both the shock and the forks for good handling. And here is the kicker: a good shock would cost me around the 6-800 euros mark, while good springs for the fork would be around 200 euros. Well below the premium for the SP, for a bike that would actually fit my weight and my riding. Anyway, I should get the MT in a week or two. I will test it properly this summer (including a track day), and decide if I want to work on the suspension during the winter... or wait and see what the R9 looks like when it comes out. As a sidenote, I test rode the '24 MT-09 and the MT-10 back to back, and even if the 10 is more stable and a lot more powerful, I felt much better on the 09 overall, considering that it will be my only bike. Much lighter, much more practical, much more fuel efficient, better dash... This bike, in its regular trim, was a no brainer for me. I will miss my LC8, that's for sure, but eh... Cheers from France.
You have to be a pretty good HiPo rider to notice the SP difference. I have '23 XSR9 and wondering if the Gold anodized front Forks are the same KYB's as on mine? AFAIK the Ohlins rear is the main difference. I don't think a passenger is ever going on mine, so the remote Ohlins doesn't make sense in my case. The Rear Preload w/Rebound Adj only on the XSR does a great job for me. Looking for a Video which compares the MT-09 vs XSR9 rear swing arm differences.
they still have gen 3 23 models running out the door new or demonstrators bro. The SP is worth the extra money.
Great to see your view on this bike! I've got a MT-09SP on order for 2023. I'm excited what updates they'll add to it for next year. Switching from a '21 MT-07 great bike but I'm ready for something bigger and with a bit more umph.
Rest assured your MT 09 will have more umph 😎
Lovin my 2023 MT90SP, 57 years old, hadn't ridden in 14 years, took it to the track, very comfortable by 6 or 7th track session,
Ha ha I'm 67
@@warrenseiboth3466 Looking good Mate, ;) dunno if i will make it that far....
These are such fantastic vids man, I know it's not your main channel, but it really deserves to take off!
Thanks mate!
Now I'm curious as to what the "main channel" is :)
@@mattyh7060 he gave a hint in an earlier bid, the one about starting a channel. Search for such and such a camera reviews, but I haven't got around to it. Too many great bike vids on this channel. And I haven't got time for yet another hobby! 😂
It’s Chris Turner Photographer
@@captain_midlife well I'll drop a sub there bro, and check those vids out 👍🏻
I love my MT09 only had 3 months on it last year....can't wait for bike season this year. Got a new Dominator GP3 exhaust to go on before the fun begins 👌🏴
Great review. I just purchased the updated XSR 900 and both of these bikes are simply incredible!
ive just bought a brand new 23' mt09SP from Albury NSW. Love the bike, I find the factory mirrors fanastic, great view behind, i dont get why lots of people want to change them, ive seen some aftermarket ones that look like wifi router amtennas haha. Ive just done 1,000kms on the bike and have been keeping the quickshift under 5k revs, today just been playing in the 5k revs + with quickshift and she sings, easily gets to 100. And shes so numble in the twisties (with the SP suspension), Horrible turn circle in the shed (compared to interceptor 650). cheers from Australia
I have same bike, even same color. Love mine, I've had it just over a year now and I pretty much ride it daily even though winter months. It's a ball and I'm still learning how the bike reacts to certain modes. Unfortunately with everything on mode 1 it will loop 💯. Didn't think it was supposed to allow you to do so but we are still learning which modes is best for what we are doing. Thanks for the video bro 👍
I've just traded my 2016 MT09 which I bought new for a brand new 2022 MT10. I loved the 09 but the 10 is a whole different level. It's nice having suspension that works. The gen 1 09's were like a jet powered pogo stick.
hahaha jet powered pogo stick is so true - I use mine at the track so shelled out the extra cash for after market fully adjustable suspension and had my shop suspension guru tune it for my weight and riding. It's amazing with suspension tuned. Haven't ridden the MT10 and afraid to go ride it because I'm sure I'll love it. I owned the 07 for a bit before the 09
Street triple RS has more ultimate power but the MT09 feels much more beefy in the real world. Torque rules😊
Great Vid! Glad you enjoyed it.
this route you took is beautiful! Nice video
I have that exact year and color... it's amazing. 5 months until winter is over and I can take it out again though.
Same color here and it's winter here as well but I dress for it. Sunny days I'm on it, salt on the roads get tricky at times LOL
I find changing from 1st to 2nd I use the clutch in drive mode 1, after that it's smooth as butter 👌
Also I fitted the Dominator Gp3 exhaust...game changer...... No ECU tune needed, plug and play 👌🫶
Awesome... how bad is it with cross wind gusts ? blown off the road with it being so light and nimble?
It’s fine eh. Not much different to the Aprilia V4 I had
The only sp difference in the frontend is that is fully adjustable. The shocks are the same - KYB
The rear makes a big difference
Great honest review!
It would be good if you could do an review/comparison of the Kawasaki Z900? The Z900 is more likely to be more completely stable in the corners, so there is no need for an steering damper. And has the advantage of an 17 litre tank, which would be better for touring. Remember the MT 09 only has an 14 litre tank. Although the Z900 does not have an quickshifter. I guess the Z900 is one of the main competitors to the MT 09 along with the current Street Triple...
Test ride both. I promise you will fall in love with the MT. Why? Because it's simply more fun to ride. The z900 is like any other 4 cylinder bike I have tried. It's fine but it isn't that much fun. You have to rev the crap out of it and it is just bland sort of.
Sean Budby
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My cuz it’s a tft screen not a lcd screen. Another best option is Yamaha have add on heater grips that are plug in play an the display will come up on the screen. I got my 22sp back in 2022 for the same ride away price as a standard 09, lucky I knew the dealer lol.
I just got me a mt09.... I'm just happy to be riding again 😆
Tried both and the SP is not worth it imo. The cruise control has no point on a hooligan bike. And the suspension was fine on the SP but I didn't find it actually added anything. Don't like the paint on the SP either. But for someone that intend to squeeze every millisecond out on that twisty bits I suppose it is may improve times a tiny bit. For me, I would get the standard one and spend the money on gear, other upgrades or whatever.
I have a gen 3 SP. Best thing ever. I'm open the fat prick side of fat and the suspension is brilliant.
My first bike - 2022 MT-09SP....not really a Midlife thingy as I'm 65....
Niiice.
67 ,great bike I'm a geratic hoodlum
I'm 65 as well as we get older lighter is better
Love my 21 mt09 so but the handlebars wobble under high speed/acceleration. Almost wishing I went with something more sporty for my riding style and preferences
Where's your sfv2 comparison?
Time to get onto 890 duke R and superduke, and new mt-10, and all other goodies, want all the videos as a tuono v4 and 690 SMC r owner.
Hey man what gear are you wearing? I like the Alpinestar gloves
I just bought a mt09 sp and I tried the standard mt09. Honestly the standard felt really good to me and my weight is 78kg. They only had one sp in stock and I bought it, I haven’t tried it but it can only get better.
Regarding the Hooligan. My god! I rode like a total idiot and this bike’s really makes you want to hoon around 😂 love it and can’t wait to try my own😛weather is terrible here👎🏻👎🏻
So your have last gen XSR900 right? Can you do a comparison between the new MT09, new XSR900 and old XSR900?
No I don’t own it I just rode one. But I will definitely
Why is the suspenion not good?
I didn’t say it’s not good. I said it’s not AS good. It’s fine you can just really tell the difference between this and the SP
just got my 2023 mt-09sp 1600km upgraded from a mt-07 2021 if you can afford it go for the SP
Agreed
10:31 Its hard to behave on this. Sums up the review pretty much ;)
This one is the 2022 version? where is that place New Zealand?
It’s a 2021 but yeah same as 2022. And yeah New Zealand
Got an sv650 last year and I regret not buying the mt09 2021
the sv 650 is also one of the most fun to ride bikes out there trust me !
@@Samenotter yes I mean, don’t get me wrong I love it but that mt09 triple engine is a blast
That's a very different beast haha
I had the sv 650.. now on a mt09 sp agree with u guys the mt is a beast .. but that v twin had a lot of character and i could wind it out more here in switzerland on the small and slow roads
@@Samenotter in SV650 defence it looks gorgeous, at least the one I got. On the contrary I don’t particularly like the way the MT09 looks, but it’s very subjective
Waiting on the dealer to respond with a quote for trading in my dr650 for an mt09, man this waiting is killing me
could you get the mt09? If yes, big difference between cb650r and the mt09?
Where is this ? I'm guessing Australia cos of the UK road signs and the excellent weather and smooth roads so it's definitely UK xD
New Zealand
@@captain_midlife oh wow New Zealand looks nice do you have the crazy snakes, spiders etc like Australia does ?
@@IronicIrony. haha nah we have none of that, pretty much no wild life thatll kill you.
only sucks that sp comes only with one color option, or should i say zero
Yeah would be nice to have others
Tuono factory or mt09?
MT09 for me
Street triple 765RS or MT09 SP?
Haven’t ridden the MT09SP but im going to say the SP
Hi brother from which country you are ?
Hey mate. New Zealand
I feel like I'm watching a video game
XSR disappointing? Shame on you 🤪
Bar end mirrors are gay.
Are they? I can’t say I’ve ever seen a queer mirror before. Have you witnessed them being gay together? Spicy 🏳️🌈
Should be right up your street then.. with a name like that.
@@captain_midlife Perhaps he meant bell-end mirrors??
😂