btw for the key fob recommend changing the battery every 4-6 months, it happened to me til I changed the battery. Also the bike has a pin that is easy to setup if you forget your key. Check the manual, but in order to access you just got to turn it on and within like 2 seconds flip the turn signal switch to the left, then right, then left. should turn on and ask for a pin. Also for the price might be higher, but the insurance is alot cheaper than a 600. its 60 a month full coverage for a 20 year old, me. that same insurance was 215 a month for a 2004 Buell xb12s.
Im aware of the pin, i still think its silly to not just use a normal key, call me “old school” lmao, and as far as insurance, im 24 with a 106 through Harley Davidson its self, and 177 through progressive, but progressive kinda sucks
@@ShitzBroken IMO the fob is as the same pros and cons as the key, especially now where even the key is programmed to the bike like a car. Also that’s weird man, Harley quoted me 50 bucks a month, and State Farm is 60. Then again tho, I do have a clean record so that is probably why it is cheap
I went back and forth between a 24 sportster S and a 24 nightster S. Ended up going with the Nightster and have no regrets. Play in Sportsmode and you’ll have a hard time getting off your bike
As far as price goes. Play the waiting game. Interest rates are high. Dealerships are sitting on leftover 22s and 23s come winter there will be great deals
I too got a 2023 Sportster S! I completely agree with the brake fade, it gets iffy for sure. Also what mods did you do on your baby? She looks different! Edit: One other gripe I’ve got is that there is no quickshifter mods/options available. Banging on those gears full throttle is really annoying clutching, and I’ve been doing clutchless to compensate.
So, I too own a a sportster s and just recently drove from Omaha Ne to Des Moines Ia and back on mostly back roads on my sportster s which is just over 2 plus hours one way, and had absolutely no “brake fade”! Also, would down shift and rev match also reduce the amount of “brake fade” as well? Sounds like someone might be using their front brake more than they should be if you ask me.
Rev matching on downshifts, you’re probably just not paying as much attention to it. Brake are brakes. Having a 500lb bike stopping on only 1 brake rotor in the front will cause brake fade, more than a bike with 2 in the front Im also talking from a aggressive riding point of view.
What? The key fob is not the only way to start a key less Harley. You should be able to hold down the both left and right turn signal buttons and get a 5 digit a screen on the dash to put in your master code. Harley has a standard code for new bikes that you are supposed to personalize when you get the new bike. If you lose the fob you have the code to get you home . If you lose the fob and don't know the code they will have to install a new security module and remarry it to the computer. This is expensive, your new bike code from the dealer is usually 31313 you better figure that sht out before your FOB takes dump or you lose it. Also realize your bike will get pinched sooner or later if you leave that dealer code on it.
I tried to start the bike without the key fob a few times and it won’t let me put the code in. It flashed the screen to enter it for like a second, then immediately turns back off
Very harsh ride …. Feel every bump in the road …price is fair considering the competition, maybe 10 percent over price if you compare apples to apples with other equivalent machines
@@guzziman if you’re looking at cruiser style bikes and still want some performance, the price isn’t super crazy. I believe it was only 2k more than the Indian scout. But compared to other bike within the same caliber (600/1k) its a little on the expensive side with no major benefits over something like a 2019 600cc super sport
@@ShitzBroken I agree the price I would call it fair, the downside is all the negative online comments from owners regarding electronic issues, check engine lights, engine blow ups, not couple of extreme cases but I would say decent amount, engine issues, that is kind of scary to be honest... a lot of them...maybe some of these issues are fixed now in 2024 ? I know pan American similar issues
@@guzziman yea, but that to be expected with harley trying to create a new style motor. I have a little over 8k on the bike now, no problems. I’ve noticed my throttle response is a little weird but that can be a simple tune up issue. Maybe new spark plugs, or i need to clean out the intake. I genuinely believe Harley is on the right track with this type of bike. They need to come out with the “Bronx” (upright naked bike using the same motor)
I like your bike, really cool looking! I agree with you about the front brake, especially on a 1250 engine. The higher price of the bike is because of two things. "H" and "D" 😂
0:34 single rotor with dual piston caliper should be fine. My 1996 XL1200S has dual rotors with single calipers on each. No one whom rides knows how to use the front brake. The only people that know front brakes are the stunt riders and that take hundreds of hours of practice and pain.
Ive tried to do the code a few time just to familiarize myself with it. The screen turns on, shows the screen to put the code in, none of the buttons work, then turns back off😅
From Harley, the Pan American As far as middle weight cruisers. Ducati diavel - 0-60 in 3 seconds flat Thats about it, mostly because there aren’t really any middle weight cruisers.
What an odd thing to say. You're not riding your bike aggressive enough we're having two front brake discs is going to matter. I can guarantee on the street having one break desk is not going to prevent you from riding the way you like
For what it is! Ive seen WAAAYYY worse. With it being metal it also provides a little bit of protection of someone rear ends me at a stop light I dont like the rear hugger/fender but i dont mind this one
@@fuglbird the Sportster S would be equivalent to a GSXR 750 till about 100mph Going from a 400 beginner bike to (basically) a 750 is a pretty good step. A lot People seem to forget this isn’t the typical slow Harley. Its liquid cooled, with vvt, and only weighs 475lb with 125hp and 98 torque. Thats double, almost triple what a 400 has
I've been riding and modifying mine for a year and absolutely love it. Greetings from the UK
btw for the key fob recommend changing the battery every 4-6 months, it happened to me til I changed the battery. Also the bike has a pin that is easy to setup if you forget your key. Check the manual, but in order to access you just got to turn it on and within like 2 seconds flip the turn signal switch to the left, then right, then left. should turn on and ask for a pin. Also for the price might be higher, but the insurance is alot cheaper than a 600. its 60 a month full coverage for a 20 year old, me. that same insurance was 215 a month for a 2004 Buell xb12s.
Im aware of the pin, i still think its silly to not just use a normal key, call me “old school” lmao, and as far as insurance, im 24 with a 106 through Harley Davidson its self, and 177 through progressive, but progressive kinda sucks
@@ShitzBroken IMO the fob is as the same pros and cons as the key, especially now where even the key is programmed to the bike like a car. Also that’s weird man, Harley quoted me 50 bucks a month, and State Farm is 60. Then again tho, I do have a clean record so that is probably why it is cheap
I have a clean record as well. No accidents or tickets. I think they just don’t like me😂
I change my fob battery once a year
Just picked mine up this weekend. It’s a 2022 with 1200 miles. Got it for 10,500
Oh hell ya! Thats an awesome price!
I went back and forth between a 24 sportster S and a 24 nightster S. Ended up going with the Nightster and have no regrets. Play in Sportsmode and you’ll have a hard time getting off your bike
As far as price goes.
Play the waiting game.
Interest rates are high.
Dealerships are sitting on leftover 22s and 23s come winter there will be great deals
Looking at trading my rebel 1100 for one soon.
I too got a 2023 Sportster S! I completely agree with the brake fade, it gets iffy for sure. Also what mods did you do on your baby? She looks different!
Edit:
One other gripe I’ve got is that there is no quickshifter mods/options available. Banging on those gears full throttle is really annoying clutching, and I’ve been doing clutchless to compensate.
Nothing crazy, i have mid controls, a front wind deflector, made my own exhaust, and rear seat
I have an update for you as far as the quick shifter, i found one on the German Harley Davidson website😂 its about $300+
@@ShitzBroken my brother in christ I need that link
@ShitzBroken yeaaa I need that link also lol I can't seem to find it
@@ShitzBroken oh dude!!! we all need that quick shifter link.. hear us out lol
Cool video bro I'm working on getting the Sportster S hopefully bu June
It a great bike! You’ll love it! There is a 1250cc and lower 975cc (Nightster) if you’re wanting a more chiller ride
@@ShitzBroken I got the Sportster S this last Saturday!
@@Gwosts hell yea brother! How you liking it so far?!
@@ShitzBroken Words can't describe how truly amazing this machine is. You really got to experience it for yourself haha
New Sub. Excellent breakdown
Where can you get rear foot controls? Mine came with forward foot controls and I planned on buying the mid foot controls from Harley.
Theres a company that makes them i dont remember the name, but they’re selling it for around 700 buckaroos
So, I too own a a sportster s and just recently drove from Omaha Ne to Des Moines Ia and back on mostly back roads on my sportster s which is just over 2 plus hours one way, and had absolutely no “brake fade”! Also, would down shift and rev match also reduce the amount of “brake fade” as well? Sounds like someone might be using their front brake more than they should be if you ask me.
Rev matching on downshifts, you’re probably just not paying as much attention to it. Brake are brakes. Having a 500lb bike stopping on only 1 brake rotor in the front will cause brake fade, more than a bike with 2 in the front
Im also talking from a aggressive riding point of view.
What? The key fob is not the only way to start a key less Harley. You should be able to hold down the both left and right turn signal buttons and get a 5 digit a screen on the dash to put in your master code. Harley has a standard code for new bikes that you are supposed to personalize when you get the new bike. If you lose the fob you have the code to get you home . If you lose the fob and don't know the code they will have to install a new security module and remarry it to the computer. This is expensive, your new bike code from the dealer is usually 31313 you better figure that sht out before your FOB takes dump or you lose it. Also realize your bike will get pinched sooner or later if you leave that dealer code on it.
I tried to start the bike without the key fob a few times and it won’t let me put the code in. It flashed the screen to enter it for like a second, then immediately turns back off
I think you're the only owner who thinks the hugger is cool! 😊
*for what it is* I’m still not a huge fan of it, but I’ve seen way worse!
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How did that work out for Bud light?
Should have spent a little more and got the brembo package bro! I have no problem slowing down my sportster s
It has the Brembo package. Comparing the stopping capability to a 600cc with ABS is would say the bike definitely needs two front rotors for sure!
Paid 16500 for mine it’s awesome most fun bike i’ve rode
The price you mentioned was like a kick to the head.
Can you throw another front rotor on it does it have the mounts
@@Oenomaus45 sadly it does not
My son just his, and he loved it
Very harsh ride …. Feel every bump in the road …price is fair considering the competition, maybe 10 percent over price if you compare apples to apples with other equivalent machines
@@guzziman if you’re looking at cruiser style bikes and still want some performance, the price isn’t super crazy. I believe it was only 2k more than the Indian scout. But compared to other bike within the same caliber (600/1k) its a little on the expensive side with no major benefits over something like a 2019 600cc super sport
@@ShitzBroken I agree the price I would call it fair, the downside is all the negative online comments from owners regarding electronic issues, check engine lights, engine blow ups, not couple of extreme cases but I would say decent amount, engine issues, that is kind of scary to be honest... a lot of them...maybe some of these issues are fixed now in 2024 ? I know pan American similar issues
@@guzziman yea, but that to be expected with harley trying to create a new style motor. I have a little over 8k on the bike now, no problems. I’ve noticed my throttle response is a little weird but that can be a simple tune up issue. Maybe new spark plugs, or i need to clean out the intake. I genuinely believe Harley is on the right track with this type of bike. They need to come out with the “Bronx” (upright naked bike using the same motor)
If your fob battery is dead, you can still start the bike with a PIN.
A full power (150 hp) Bronx would rock.
Yep shouldve dual disc up front
Great bike tbh, but that price is just a massive hell no. 18k MSRP? That's liter bike money.
I like your bike, really cool looking!
I agree with you about the front brake, especially on a 1250 engine.
The higher price of the bike is because of two things. "H" and "D" 😂
0:34 single rotor with dual piston caliper should be fine. My 1996 XL1200S has dual rotors with single calipers on each. No one whom rides knows how to use the front brake. The only people that know front brakes are the stunt riders and that take hundreds of hours of practice and pain.
My Bandit 1200 was 540lbs and had dual disk six piston brakes and you needed it.
Maybe I missed it but you do know you can start without a key fob via conbo code
Ive tried to do the code a few time just to familiarize myself with it. The screen turns on, shows the screen to put the code in, none of the buttons work, then turns back off😅
Test ride the low rider s which has twin front discs. After that, you will really wonder why they don’t put them on all of their bikes..
@@Crowbar381 funny thing, im actually thinking about swapping the Low Rider S front wheel to have the dual disc set up
What are the other faster options
From Harley, the Pan American
As far as middle weight cruisers.
Ducati diavel - 0-60 in 3 seconds flat
Thats about it, mostly because there aren’t really any middle weight cruisers.
Wait the pan America isn’t that the same engine in a heavier bike
What options, cruiser wise, apart from full sports bike, is quicker than the sportster S?
yamaha vmax, triumph rocket roadster
Ducati diavel
There’s a whole but load of bikes that are fast, especially in the cruiser category. This is one of the fastest in the Harley area
Damn,$18k-22k? Where the heck do you live? Here in CT they go for $14.9k or so brand new
The front brake is keeping me off one.
What an odd thing to say. You're not riding your bike aggressive enough we're having two front brake discs is going to matter. I can guarantee on the street having one break desk is not going to prevent you from riding the way you like
great video , what grips do you have on it?
Sorry for the super late response, but they came on the bike. Im assuming its a thing the dealership put on
Come on, how can anybody like that fender?
Lol, it's usually the 1st thing to go!
For what it is! Ive seen WAAAYYY worse. With it being metal it also provides a little bit of protection of someone rear ends me at a stop light
I dont like the rear hugger/fender but i dont mind this one
Way better bike than R7.
Many 400 owners would not consider this as a step up - except in price.
@@fuglbird the Sportster S would be equivalent to a GSXR 750 till about 100mph
Going from a 400 beginner bike to (basically) a 750 is a pretty good step. A lot People seem to forget this isn’t the typical slow Harley. Its liquid cooled, with vvt, and only weighs 475lb with 125hp and 98 torque. Thats double, almost triple what a 400 has
Many people would be stupid then.
What category does the Sportster S fall under? Naked bike? Café bike? Flat tracker? Definitely not a cruiser in the sense that the new Scout 101 is.
I believe it would be classified as a muscle cruiser, like the V-rod. I could be mistaken though.
Spotter S falls into the gay category.
@@ShitzBroken damn sure doesn’t look like a cruiser. Looks like a powerful motorcycle with an identity issue.
@@michaeltrivette1728with all the rest of the Harley shlte