"Temple of Bask" is a pun on the "Temple of Bast" (also known as "Bastet"), who is thought to be an Ancient Egyptian cat diety associated with the sun.
I feel for any localizers who miss a joke or reference. Must be annoying to wrap on a project and later have it pointed out to you. (Side note, if anyone's wondering why fan translations seem much better at catching references, especially ones to mythology, it's because fan translations don't have the concept of "deadlines".)
@@GeeCee-pv7ik I'm defending translators, not corporations. Like I said, fan translations often get small references better due to having no deadline. Likewise, the problem with most bad translations isn't lack of skill by the translator, but lack of time given by the corporation who hired them. This is also why buggy video games happen. Nobody _wants_ to ship a game full of bugs (unless they're aiming for the bargin bin on purpose), but at a certain point it becomes a question of just getting the game out the door.
Which is why everyone seems to do nothing but heap undeserved hatred on Ted Woolsey despite the fact that he did the best he could. Like, fun fact, he actually initially wrote a script TWICE as long for Final Fantasy III (aka 6), but it literally could not fit with text space restrictions, so he was forced to basically re-write the entire game again from scratch, at the last minute.
@@mads_in_zero Not only deadlines but also dumb procedures. Believe me or not, translators only get raw text taken from the game, but can't play the game. Imagine translating single words without knowing any context.
@@GeeCee-pv7ik You should. Cause if you did, you'd see he's actually criticizing the corporations for the strict deadlines they put on translators. He isn't defending corporations by any means.
Translation is an art. I just wished companies would actually let them have the time to actually research and understand the work they are translating. I'm in the camp of preferring an appropriate translation than a 100% "faithful one".
Time and money for the translator are honestly the two biggest factors in a good translation. That second game shown in the video _reeks_ of the company paying as little as possible for bottom of the barrel prices, or perhaps even a machine TL (how else do you end up with "prostitute" in a kid friendly game?!)
There's a distinct difference between a translation and a localization. When you half ass the latter (whether it be just because of money or time lacking,) it suffers, but when done well it's much better than a plain jane translation could give us. If you don't and put out something like Selfy Collection then it becomes a gigantic meme.
@@Robbie_Haruna Uhh, I'm wondering what you think the difference between translation and localization is (they're synonyms) because when you half ass a "translation", it'll still suck!
I've always said that Fire Emblem on the gba has the best translation I've ever read. I think it's because Nintendo put a lot of money into a good translation team because it was the first FE game to be released in the West.
This is why i like when nintendo of europe produces english translations over nintendo of america, if you look at the translation of xenoblade x vs all other xenoblade games. NOE even kept a dick joke in xenoblade 2 thanks to a coincidence with british slang.
The pirate outfit might have been changed in China because of their policy of not showing death in video games. Many other games have had their content changed to replace dying animations or remove textures such as skulls, blood, or dead bodies.
Ah yes, the Genocide suit―We're all all-too-familiar with its peculiar forms and colors, yet many know it by different, often grimly _reverential_ names. Then there's the Douche Meteor
Here in Finland a company that sells used military gear around the world (Varusteleka) had to change a name of one beret that they sold as 'JNA genocide beret' because that type of beret was worn by soldiers in Balkan genocides. So it become just 'JNA beret'. They have also had some other weird dark humor in their website that has offended people. But they are a good company and they have also donated plenty of stuff to Ukraine after the war with Russia started.
I immediately recognized the style of that Selfie collection game! I had a friend who was really into Tinierme before they shut it down, and we used to play with the selfie maker site a lot back in the day!
YOOO GLAD SOMEBODY REMEMBERS TINIERME! When I see that selfie collection game I thought "wow, looks REALLY familiar. Is it by the same artist who did tinierme?" And really I would buy it in a heartbeat if it's in here. always love their customization and style the most.
3:15 This isn't really a mistranslation. A 'tit' is a type of bird that belongs to the Sparrow order and is just a common bird name. The Long-tailed tit is native to Europe and North Asia and not even a rare sight at that. I guess that it sounds funny when combined with the 'honey sucking' (tits are insectivores to my knowledgde) but it's not really a mistranslation as it is just a funny name. All the other names are definetely transliterated though and absolutely hilarious.
In line with what the video states near the beginning, it seems less a translation issue and more a *localization* issue: it's one thing to accurately interpret the word as "tit" in English, but it's another to realise the direct translation might sound unintentionally hilarious in some locales and something else should be used instead.
The info about Captain Toad at 8:06 seems to have ended up a bit garbled. 'Onward' and 'Advance', which are mentioned as being the difference, are actually both just different translations to the word 'susume'. In the Japanese version, the game title and the chapter title are both 'susume kinopio-taichou'. So the localisers translated the chapter title, but localised the game's title, and as a result, they no longer match. Maybe it can be considered an 'added easter egg', in that translating that part made it no longer match the localised title. But it wasn't an invention of the localisers, and there's probably plenty of other games where something in the Japanese title (that was localised out of the English title) still ends up turning up in the actual game.
This reminds me of some stuff in world of warcraft. Most skeleton enemies are swapped with humans and other races, gory remains and carcasses are removed or swapped with things like candles and bread in the Chinese release. Why the bread? So throughout the world in some cities and inns, there are kitchens with slabs of meat, ribs, bones etc in western releases. In the Chinese version they simply replaced these with loaves of bread which make sense in these contexts. However, these assets are reused in necromancer areas to show gore and whatnot. The replacement is just applied to all uses of the models regardless of location. What's also amusing, some large undead monsters carry around huge bones as weapons. These are also turned into bread.
@@joeschmoe5063 Its funny seeing that in WoW. (Ive played around on that version and seeing bodies be replaced with random things like rocks, is something.)
Very small correction - 7:20 - That's not a tricorn hat! A tricorn hat has - as the name implies - three folds, and this one only has two, which makes it a bicorn hat :)
I've noticed that a lot of Nintendo franchises title their spinoffs differently from main series games in Japanese. Only main Pokémon games use "Pocket Monsters", only main Kirby games use "Hoshi no Kirby", Animal Crossing spinoffs have the subtitle after "Doubutsu no Mori" while main games have the subtitle first, etc.
"Pocket Monsters" was the originally intended name for US release, but in the US a copyright holder for an IP known as "Monster in my Pocket" that included figures, trading cards, an animation, and a video game among other things. So, to avoid any entanglement, the name was changed to combine both words: Poke(t)mon(sters)
12:14 Basagiri, Basari -single stroke and Giri - duty or obligation. In this case, to cut in a single stroke. But, Giri was also used as "to cut or slash" in the form of Tsujigiri which was the violent practice of some samurai to test their blades on unsuspecting passerby. So the name is likely the concept of "Cut or slash in a single stroke"
@DYKG if you still do Region Locked could you please do an episode dedicated to Konami’s Penguin Adventure on the MSX? I’d be glad to help answer any questions and provide information about my favorite game from my childhood, believe me the series is quite interesting and could easily fill an entire episode 🙏
Just here to give my two cents on the POW China thing, P.O.W is a very common abbreviation for Prisoner Of War so maybe the localisers understood the potential meaning of it.
Are-say-us is the Japanese pronunciation, based on the phonetic characters used in its name. Are-see-us was the initial assumption for western fans, based on its spelling. Are-kee-us is the actual official non-Japanese pronunciation, because it sounds less like arse. EDIT: Though his inflection IS really weird.
@@Interference22 Did you consider the possibility that it's Clyde's wife? Or that Clyde doesn't write every single article on the page? The link is in the description if you want to see who wrote it for yourself.
Slightly unrelated, but hearing that Golden Sun was on the mind of Aces REALLY makes me hope we'll get some sort of port or new game in the series. I'd kill for remakes similar to the HD 2D games we've been getting recently. Maybe even finally get Solar Soothsayer or Lunar Nation as official games and not just a fans trying to spark conversation.
I would give my entire next paycheck for a Golden Sun 4. I don't even bother bringing up the series anymore. No one knows what I'm talking about. Sometimes I think I'm the only one so I'm glad to know that I'm not alone.
@@CarliVala Yeah Lmao, even the smallest easter egg make the whole GS fandom happy. Also you're right about dark dawn it's plot has just soo many loose ends and it sucks how it ends on a cliffhanger. Also imo I don't like how the plot snowballs too much feels like you got into a mess instead off embarking on a quest
Translation can be sometimes tricky. I mean, there it is the eternal conflict of Latin America's Spanish and Portuguese vs. European Spanish and Portuguese, which, despite being the very same languages, are used very differently in those regions, thus why there's always two Spanish and Portuguese dubs or translations, one for Latin America and one for Spain and Portugal. Sadly, some companies still doesn't understand those regional and cultural differences, and some games are released in Latin America with a European dub/translation, such as the case of Pokémon, where the fans are now making a worthy campaign for the making of an Spanish and Portuguese translation of the games for the Latin American market. You can watch some videos on the subject, like the one from ANMTV about the huge problems of the Spanish case: th-cam.com/video/Zx6pTEMSb5k/w-d-xo.html
The fact that Kris searched "video game piano tutorial" so many times is also a reference to Undertale's famously obtuse (but optional) piano puzzle in Waterfall
This isn't an important point of the video, but "psynergy" is pronounced like "synergy." Pronouncing it like "psy energy" makes no sense as there's no 'e' after the 'y.' That would be "psyenergy," which isn't correctly spelled.
i feel like the "Chinese POW Block" issue is more of an accidental one...the letters "P-O-W" got changed into what looks like 'unknown character' symbols in Unicode (□□□)
I've always seen DYKG as more educational than entertainment in a sense, so the jokes although they were funny because they were rare, now they feel kinda annoying
To answer your question at the end, DYKG guy, as somebody who will probably never tire of the traditional Pokémon formula, I still absolutely loved Legends Arceus.
At first, at the 51 games trivia I was like "WTF, mature rating in a game THIS INNOCENT?!", then you say there are gambling games in it. At that moment I realized it, slaped my face and said "of COURSE! They were in the original ds version,too!". I totally forgot about them xD (never tuched a card game because I don't understand them lol). Now this changes makes much more sense. BTW, not a fan of Arceus, but I respect it.
It's always a treat when you get localizers who can't localize. Like they don't actually speak both languages... Go figure. It's hilarious how sometimes, like with that dress-up game, that it feels like it's worse than just using Google translate as is. Granted, it doesn't exactly make the game fun for the reason it was intended, which could be good or bad, and if it's a game that you actually wanted to play that would suck. But let's be honest, in the case of the dress-up game, it's pretty amazing.
Definitely check out Legends Arceus. It's without a shred of doubt the single best thing to happen to the series since it's debut. It feels like the series finally got it's very own Ocarina of Time and finally stepped into the world of 3D proper. Faster, more convenient gameplay loop, less slowdowns with fights, bigger world that actually feels alive compared to the previous formula. Highly recommended to try it out, if you're on the fence it emulates quite well...
Mario's pirate hat is clearly a bicorn not a tricorn. Not surprised by the removal of the skull from it though, have seen other games that have had to remove such iconography before shipping to China.
Majority of the translations in the selfie game are transliterations, not localizations, because they don't take into consideration the grammar, context, or appropriateness of the language they're being translated to, they're just literal translations. Isn't that what the anti-localization crowd wanted? Translation without localization? Because that makes good content, right??
9:18 Ah yes, the classic case of simulated gambling being a big no-no for kiddies but loot boxes and micro transactions in E and T rated games are a-ok. Gotta love international laws.
@@otaking3582 If you're gonna mention the Game Corner, the Australian versions of Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum actually still have the it, despite otherwise being the same as the PAL versions. Though rather than an M rating, this gave the games a PG rating (as opposed to the rest of the Pokemon series firmly being G rated). I guess the Australian Ratings board has just gotten stricter with this rule over time, gambling earning a PG for a DS game but an M for a Switch release. I can sort of understand why Australia's so harsh on gambling in kids games though. We have a long tradition of "Country Clubs", where you can get cheap steaks and wine supported by a sea of oppertunities to gamble while you're there. The less kids are familiar with slot machines when they've probably seen some in real life, the better. Would be nice if they were equally as strict with lootboxes though...
My assumition is that I think the "POW" on pow block could have been changed because "POW" could also mean "Prisoner Of War " and the chinese goverment might not want even an accidental reference to it
I have played about 10 hours of the new pokemon game and it's pretty fun. I like the switch up in game play but it doesn't change the series too much. Feels like a natural evolution, pun not included.
Kind of a blind assumption here... perhaps China wasn't really cool with the "POW" blocks because they could also be interpreted as the English acronym for "Prisoner Of War"? Again, I have no real basis, just a blind guess
Unfair that the french get apologies for how you pronounced Scyther's name, but none of the English Speakers get an apology for hearing you say "Ar-say-us"
I think when someone points out a problem in the translation or a lack of a joke or reference, this is more of a show on the company's doing rather than the translator. Translators are just doing what they can and I think that's what everyone thinks. (Some comments are defending translators but I don't think anyone was shaming them. I'm sure any translator knows that not all idioms or jokes can be fully expressed in a translator smoothly and I'm sure they're fine.) I will say the second game did give MTL vibes since it felt so direct in translation But yes~ so cool to see all this ^^ thank you for the video!!!
As a localiser / translator I know how hard it can be as we often dont have access to the game at the time of translating and have no direct connection to the devs and asking questions can take multiple days
"How much footage have you collected from that dress-up game?" "Not enough" "Dude, you've been playing that for days" "I'm gonna need more time with it"
Here's a case of game translation that actually worked really well In the form of a brand new joke: In Sly 4: Thieves In Time, During the mission where you spread speakers across Madam Decibel's office In the effort of distracting her with rock music, Salim Al Cupar makes the humorous comment "It makes sense, The Rok-bird does eat elephants." The Rok is a giant bird originating from arabian legends from it's middle ages known for itXs invincibility and ability to lift up massive animals with it's strong claws. It simply fitted so well with the context that the translators couldn't pass their chance.
12:45 Hahaha :-) not nearly bad enough to be worth an apology, IMO you did pretty well! Just in "insecte" (and therefore "insécateur") the beginning "in" part isn't pronounced "een" but closer to "hen" :-)
The moment you lost composure during narration of this video was great. I can imagine you couldn't keep a straight face when you said "Grilled Sweet Potatoes Autumn Breeze."
Playing through Golden sun series rn. Man, this series didn't get the love it deserved. Isaac/Matthew should be in smash. I really want an HD remaster of these games tbfh
Someone seriously needs to do a study on whether simulated gambling in video games has any correlation with real life gambling addictions. Much like the myth that video games cause violence, I assume it probably doesn't in the slightest.
From my own anecdotal obersvations, it depends. Simply having a card game in a game, probably isn't gonna have an effect. But if a game includes stuff like gacha mechanics, which is very similar to stuff like slots, then they will use features that are very similar to what actual slot machines use in order to trigger people with addictive personalities into spending more and more. There's apparently been studies into that (which I admit I haven't read, but have seen referenced in enough articles and statements onmine by actual psychologists that I kinda just take them for granted), which say that slot machines and gacha games alike use sounds, graphical effects and coercive messages which are all aimed to affect the addictive personalities mindset and send them into the adrenaline / dopamine releasing spiral that sees them gamble again and again, just one more spin, JUST ONE MORE SPIN, that can have them lose far more money than they consciously would have if those effects weren't present. So yes- I don't think the presence of card games alone can affect people. It's card games with the specifics of a casino around them, with the particular allures and attractions casino owners (and gacha developers) have put into them to guide people to a path where they spend and spend and spend, that are dangerous and merits an 18+ rating.
8:01 As of there never were Pirates in the Yellow Sea... I think that's highly unlikely. Especially given Taiwanese Sea Trade, which given Chinese Law officially would be seen as Piracy. (And vice-versa as these two won't stop butting heads anytime soon.)
I believe the official pronunciation of Arceus was the one on the video, but it was later changed to "Ar-kay-us". The reason (that I'm not sure it's true), is to avoid the similar sound to "arse".
The director of the English dub for the anime at the time said that was why they changed it to a K for the Arceus movie's English dub. As for "Ar-say-us," it's closer to "Ar-say-oos," which is really how Aruseusu should be pronounced after "translation" from Japanese.
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Settling the Arceus pronunciation debate with a version literally nobody uses, I respect it.
You get an arc phone not an arse phone.
@@Tb0n3 Now I have to call it that lol.
@@Tb0n3 Proper nouns like names don't care about how other words a pronounced. Arkayus just sounds dumb, but so does arseeus.
The phone that didn't let you call anybody... That is a pretty arse phone
Pretty damn certain it was pronounce Ar-Kay-s.
The Selfy stuff had me in stitches.
Same! With every one i kept thinking "Oh no how is it getting worse" but couldnt stop laughing
"Temple of Bask" is a pun on the "Temple of Bast" (also known as "Bastet"), who is thought to be an Ancient Egyptian cat diety associated with the sun.
I'm guessing bask is also a reference to "bask in the sun"
lame pun..
I feel for any localizers who miss a joke or reference.
Must be annoying to wrap on a project and later have it pointed out to you.
(Side note, if anyone's wondering why fan translations seem much better at catching references, especially ones to mythology, it's because fan translations don't have the concept of "deadlines".)
@@GeeCee-pv7ik I'm defending translators, not corporations.
Like I said, fan translations often get small references better due to having no deadline. Likewise, the problem with most bad translations isn't lack of skill by the translator, but lack of time given by the corporation who hired them.
This is also why buggy video games happen. Nobody _wants_ to ship a game full of bugs (unless they're aiming for the bargin bin on purpose), but at a certain point it becomes a question of just getting the game out the door.
Which is why everyone seems to do nothing but heap undeserved hatred on Ted Woolsey despite the fact that he did the best he could.
Like, fun fact, he actually initially wrote a script TWICE as long for Final Fantasy III (aka 6), but it literally could not fit with text space restrictions, so he was forced to basically re-write the entire game again from scratch, at the last minute.
@@the-NightStar Oh Woolsey is a mad genius for getting results as good as he did within the timeframes he had, absolutely agreed.
@@mads_in_zero Not only deadlines but also dumb procedures. Believe me or not, translators only get raw text taken from the game, but can't play the game. Imagine translating single words without knowing any context.
@@GeeCee-pv7ik You should. Cause if you did, you'd see he's actually criticizing the corporations for the strict deadlines they put on translators. He isn't defending corporations by any means.
Translation is an art. I just wished companies would actually let them have the time to actually research and understand the work they are translating. I'm in the camp of preferring an appropriate translation than a 100% "faithful one".
Time and money for the translator are honestly the two biggest factors in a good translation. That second game shown in the video _reeks_ of the company paying as little as possible for bottom of the barrel prices, or perhaps even a machine TL (how else do you end up with "prostitute" in a kid friendly game?!)
There's a distinct difference between a translation and a localization. When you half ass the latter (whether it be just because of money or time lacking,) it suffers, but when done well it's much better than a plain jane translation could give us.
If you don't and put out something like Selfy Collection then it becomes a gigantic meme.
@@Robbie_Haruna Uhh, I'm wondering what you think the difference between translation and localization is (they're synonyms) because when you half ass a "translation", it'll still suck!
I've always said that Fire Emblem on the gba has the best translation I've ever read. I think it's because Nintendo put a lot of money into a good translation team because it was the first FE game to be released in the West.
This is why i like when nintendo of europe produces english translations over nintendo of america, if you look at the translation of xenoblade x vs all other xenoblade games. NOE even kept a dick joke in xenoblade 2 thanks to a coincidence with british slang.
The pirate outfit might have been changed in China because of their policy of not showing death in video games. Many other games have had their content changed to replace dying animations or remove textures such as skulls, blood, or dead bodies.
It's strange though that they left in the actual skeleton suit for Mario.
That would explain the removal of the skull, but why not then keep it a pirate outfit?
Ah yes, the Genocide suit―We're all all-too-familiar with its peculiar forms and colors, yet many know it by different, often grimly _reverential_ names.
Then there's the Douche Meteor
I gotta get me a genocide suit
Here in Finland a company that sells used military gear around the world (Varusteleka) had to change a name of one beret that they sold as 'JNA genocide beret' because that type of beret was worn by soldiers in Balkan genocides. So it become just 'JNA beret'. They have also had some other weird dark humor in their website that has offended people. But they are a good company and they have also donated plenty of stuff to Ukraine after the war with Russia started.
I immediately recognized the style of that Selfie collection game! I had a friend who was really into Tinierme before they shut it down, and we used to play with the selfie maker site a lot back in the day!
Yes! Me too!
omg im not crazy the art style looked familiar but i couldnt tell what from
YOOO GLAD SOMEBODY REMEMBERS TINIERME!
When I see that selfie collection game I thought "wow, looks REALLY familiar. Is it by the same artist who did tinierme?" And really I would buy it in a heartbeat if it's in here. always love their customization and style the most.
3:15 This isn't really a mistranslation. A 'tit' is a type of bird that belongs to the Sparrow order and is just a common bird name. The Long-tailed tit is native to Europe and North Asia and not even a rare sight at that. I guess that it sounds funny when combined with the 'honey sucking' (tits are insectivores to my knowledgde) but it's not really a mistranslation as it is just a funny name.
All the other names are definetely transliterated though and absolutely hilarious.
In line with what the video states near the beginning, it seems less a translation issue and more a *localization* issue: it's one thing to accurately interpret the word as "tit" in English, but it's another to realise the direct translation might sound unintentionally hilarious in some locales and something else should be used instead.
well, the word "tit" is a naughty word
@@VlvrdMlgm Is saying booby like the bird or booby trap naughty too?
@@birboii I can't say for that, but that's why I thought maybe there was things with the word "tit" lol
Ah igu. I honestly can't think of any other tit that isn't boobs. They got stuck choosing the right definition on some of these lol
The info about Captain Toad at 8:06 seems to have ended up a bit garbled.
'Onward' and 'Advance', which are mentioned as being the difference, are actually both just different translations to the word 'susume'.
In the Japanese version, the game title and the chapter title are both 'susume kinopio-taichou'.
So the localisers translated the chapter title, but localised the game's title, and as a result, they no longer match.
Maybe it can be considered an 'added easter egg', in that translating that part made it no longer match the localised title.
But it wasn't an invention of the localisers, and there's probably plenty of other games where something in the Japanese title (that was localised out of the English title) still ends up turning up in the actual game.
Oh wow
I’m wondering if in China they got rid of the Skeleton Mario outfit since China has a thing against skeletons and skulls and stuff in media.
spoopy
Skeletons don't exist in China.
This reminds me of some stuff in world of warcraft. Most skeleton enemies are swapped with humans and other races, gory remains and carcasses are removed or swapped with things like candles and bread in the Chinese release.
Why the bread? So throughout the world in some cities and inns, there are kitchens with slabs of meat, ribs, bones etc in western releases. In the Chinese version they simply replaced these with loaves of bread which make sense in these contexts. However, these assets are reused in necromancer areas to show gore and whatnot. The replacement is just applied to all uses of the models regardless of location. What's also amusing, some large undead monsters carry around huge bones as weapons. These are also turned into bread.
@@joeschmoe5063 Its funny seeing that in WoW. (Ive played around on that version and seeing bodies be replaced with random things like rocks, is something.)
They do have a thing against depicting skeletons, but oddly enough, the actual skeleton suit is still in the game in China.
Very small correction - 7:20 - That's not a tricorn hat! A tricorn hat has - as the name implies - three folds, and this one only has two, which makes it a bicorn hat :)
And if it has 1 fold, is it a unicorn hat?
@@PlebNC I think most people call that a conehead
I've noticed that a lot of Nintendo franchises title their spinoffs differently from main series games in Japanese. Only main Pokémon games use "Pocket Monsters", only main Kirby games use "Hoshi no Kirby", Animal Crossing spinoffs have the subtitle after "Doubutsu no Mori" while main games have the subtitle first, etc.
"Pocket Monsters" was the originally intended name for US release, but in the US a copyright holder for an IP known as "Monster in my Pocket" that included figures, trading cards, an animation, and a video game among other things. So, to avoid any entanglement, the name was changed to combine both words: Poke(t)mon(sters)
@@jojojoma3026 That's not what I was talking about.
"Douche Meteor" would be a really good insult.
Or the best band ever
Or Ultimate attack
"There's nothing offensive about genocide"
- Cybershell (2018)
12:14 Basagiri, Basari -single stroke and Giri - duty or obligation. In this case, to cut in a single stroke. But, Giri was also used as "to cut or slash" in the form of Tsujigiri which was the violent practice of some samurai to test their blades on unsuspecting passerby. So the name is likely the concept of "Cut or slash in a single stroke"
@DYKG if you still do Region Locked could you please do an episode dedicated to Konami’s Penguin Adventure on the MSX? I’d be glad to help answer any questions and provide information about my favorite game from my childhood, believe me the series is quite interesting and could easily fill an entire episode 🙏
Since Hideo Kojima worked on that game, I'd love to see a video about it.
Just here to give my two cents on the POW China thing, P.O.W is a very common abbreviation for Prisoner Of War so maybe the localisers understood the potential meaning of it.
I wonder why they didn't just go with a chinese onomatopoeia instead of squares
This was my exact thought as well, though it is of course just a guess. I went to the comments to make this suggestion, but seems I was too late :)
At least Golden Sun still lingers in Mario Tennis Aces.
If you play Golden Sun: Dark Dawn, it lingers an awful lot any time there's dialogue.
Still hoping for a Golden Sun collection on Switch
Golden Sun will return when fellow Camelot creation Waluigi gets respect and has his own game (never)
@@LeviathanRX Waluigi RPG when?
Poor japanese players. Have to be reminded that new golden sun game never ever.
I've heard are-kay-ess, and I've heard are-see-us. But are-SAY-us? That's a new one.
Dude right I came here to say the same lmao
Are-say-us is the Japanese pronunciation, based on the phonetic characters used in its name. Are-see-us was the initial assumption for western fans, based on its spelling. Are-kee-us is the actual official non-Japanese pronunciation, because it sounds less like arse.
EDIT: Though his inflection IS really weird.
Made me so angry. They literally made it hard k BECAUSE of British English and the sounding of butt in that dialect and he still mispronounces it. 😩
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Technically, the "us" is pronounced "yoos" instead of "uhs," since it's based on the word "deus," as in "deus ex machina."
@@Interference22 Did you consider the possibility that it's Clyde's wife? Or that Clyde doesn't write every single article on the page? The link is in the description if you want to see who wrote it for yourself.
Pokemon fans: We will never agree if it is Ar-see-us or Ar-kay-us!
DYKG: Hold my beer.
...I've been saying it as Our Key Us...
Arseeus is the official pronunciation.
Whoever translated selfie collection needs a raise, lol that was gold
Google Translate appreciates your compliment.
Slightly unrelated, but hearing that Golden Sun was on the mind of Aces REALLY makes me hope we'll get some sort of port or new game in the series. I'd kill for remakes similar to the HD 2D games we've been getting recently. Maybe even finally get Solar Soothsayer or Lunar Nation as official games and not just a fans trying to spark conversation.
More likely than a Shining Force remake. Man, Nintendo really screwed over Sonic Software Planning/Camelot huh?
Hopefully they'll be sober whenever they make a new game.
I would give my entire next paycheck for a Golden Sun 4. I don't even bother bringing up the series anymore. No one knows what I'm talking about. Sometimes I think I'm the only one so I'm glad to know that I'm not alone.
I'd kill for a new Golden Sun game, too. It's been way too long and there are way too many plotholes and loose ties in Dark Dawn.
@@CarliVala Yeah Lmao, even the smallest easter egg make the whole GS fandom happy. Also you're right about dark dawn it's plot has just soo many loose ends and it sucks how it ends on a cliffhanger. Also imo I don't like how the plot snowballs too much feels like you got into a mess instead off embarking on a quest
Translation can be sometimes tricky. I mean, there it is the eternal conflict of Latin America's Spanish and Portuguese vs. European Spanish and Portuguese, which, despite being the very same languages, are used very differently in those regions, thus why there's always two Spanish and Portuguese dubs or translations, one for Latin America and one for Spain and Portugal. Sadly, some companies still doesn't understand those regional and cultural differences, and some games are released in Latin America with a European dub/translation, such as the case of Pokémon, where the fans are now making a worthy campaign for the making of an Spanish and Portuguese translation of the games for the Latin American market. You can watch some videos on the subject, like the one from ANMTV about the huge problems of the Spanish case: th-cam.com/video/Zx6pTEMSb5k/w-d-xo.html
The fact that Kris searched "video game piano tutorial" so many times is also a reference to Undertale's famously obtuse (but optional) piano puzzle in Waterfall
This isn't an important point of the video, but "psynergy" is pronounced like "synergy." Pronouncing it like "psy energy" makes no sense as there's no 'e' after the 'y.' That would be "psyenergy," which isn't correctly spelled.
So the first syllables of psychology and synergy are pronounced the same? Since when?
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The way you choked up after saying "The Genocide Suit" had me fucking wheezing and I rewinded it like 5 times just to hear it again lmfao
I've never, in my life, heard anyone pronounce Arceus like that. I didn't even think it was possible
Maybe that's a regional difference too, haha.
i feel like the "Chinese POW Block" issue is more of an accidental one...the letters "P-O-W" got changed into what looks like 'unknown character' symbols in Unicode (□□□)
I like how you're starting to include jokes in the writing of these videos
Interesting as I find those highly annoying, the duality of men I suppose.
@@JKSmith-qs2ii I too also find them very annoying. Just comes across as him trying to hard to be a youtuber
@@markgaterii5395 geez six seconds ago
I've always seen DYKG as more educational than entertainment in a sense, so the jokes although they were funny because they were rare, now they feel kinda annoying
@@markgaterii5395 They're more annoying when you don't know the TH-camr very well. Something something parasocial relationships.
To answer your question at the end, DYKG guy, as somebody who will probably never tire of the traditional Pokémon formula, I still absolutely loved Legends Arceus.
Oh? Cool. I'm the same but haven't gotten the chance to play Arceus.
At first, at the 51 games trivia I was like "WTF, mature rating in a game THIS INNOCENT?!", then you say there are gambling games in it. At that moment I realized it, slaped my face and said "of COURSE! They were in the original ds version,too!".
I totally forgot about them xD (never tuched a card game because I don't understand them lol). Now this changes makes much more sense.
BTW, not a fan of Arceus, but I respect it.
6:40 First thing that came to mind is maybe it's because it could be seen as the acronym "Prisoner of War"? Though that seems kinda far fetched...
I thought the same
4:39 Ngl, Genocide Suit sounds kinda badass.
It's always a treat when you get localizers who can't localize. Like they don't actually speak both languages... Go figure. It's hilarious how sometimes, like with that dress-up game, that it feels like it's worse than just using Google translate as is. Granted, it doesn't exactly make the game fun for the reason it was intended, which could be good or bad, and if it's a game that you actually wanted to play that would suck. But let's be honest, in the case of the dress-up game, it's pretty amazing.
It seems quite likely that they did in fact use Google translate...
The Camelot Devs are such a tease.
Regional differences between games are some of my favorite topics to learn about, no matter how absurd or strange the changes are 😅.
Definitely check out Legends Arceus. It's without a shred of doubt the single best thing to happen to the series since it's debut. It feels like the series finally got it's very own Ocarina of Time and finally stepped into the world of 3D proper. Faster, more convenient gameplay loop, less slowdowns with fights, bigger world that actually feels alive compared to the previous formula.
Highly recommended to try it out, if you're on the fence it emulates quite well...
I cannot confirm or deny that last statement hehehe
And no "two games that don't need to be two games" BS
Grilled Sweet Potatoes with Autumn Breeze fucking BROKE ME for some reason 💀
No one is speaking about 1:00
"every true gamers favorite game (shows BOTW): SELFY COLLECTION: The Dream Fashion Stylist"
This was too good
The year is 2022..And I am STILL waiting for Golden Sun 1&2 Collection for the switch
Translations of games is one of the most fascinating subjects of a video game to me.
Loved when even your narrator lost it at those clothing names
"Douche Meteor" sounds like my kind of apparel
Genocide suit, you say? Sounds right up my alley!
Mario's pirate hat is clearly a bicorn not a tricorn. Not surprised by the removal of the skull from it though, have seen other games that have had to remove such iconography before shipping to China.
Fun Fact: There are many games based on the upcoming Super Mario movie.
Majority of the translations in the selfie game are transliterations, not localizations, because they don't take into consideration the grammar, context, or appropriateness of the language they're being translated to, they're just literal translations. Isn't that what the anti-localization crowd wanted? Translation without localization? Because that makes good content, right??
Oohhhhh!! I love your comment, you're so right!!!
7:40 Well it's no Zheng Yi Sao (or her crew) outfit to be sure.
4:38 I used to think Kitty Love was peak bad translation, but this is in a league of its own!!!
9:18 Ah yes, the classic case of simulated gambling being a big no-no for kiddies but loot boxes and micro transactions in E and T rated games are a-ok. Gotta love international laws.
What's even weirder is that Europe was perfectly okay with Clubhouse Games despite vetoing the Game Corner in Pokemon.
@@otaking3582 If you're gonna mention the Game Corner, the Australian versions of Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum actually still have the it, despite otherwise being the same as the PAL versions.
Though rather than an M rating, this gave the games a PG rating (as opposed to the rest of the Pokemon series firmly being G rated). I guess the Australian Ratings board has just gotten stricter with this rule over time, gambling earning a PG for a DS game but an M for a Switch release.
I can sort of understand why Australia's so harsh on gambling in kids games though. We have a long tradition of "Country Clubs", where you can get cheap steaks and wine supported by a sea of oppertunities to gamble while you're there. The less kids are familiar with slot machines when they've probably seen some in real life, the better.
Would be nice if they were equally as strict with lootboxes though...
4:42
I love it how even the narrator couldn't not laugh anymore.
My assumition is that I think the "POW" on pow block could have been changed because "POW" could also mean "Prisoner Of War " and the chinese goverment might not want even an accidental reference to it
I have played about 10 hours of the new pokemon game and it's pretty fun. I like the switch up in game play but it doesn't change the series too much. Feels like a natural evolution, pun not included.
Kind of a blind assumption here... perhaps China wasn't really cool with the "POW" blocks because they could also be interpreted as the English acronym for "Prisoner Of War"?
Again, I have no real basis, just a blind guess
Unfair that the french get apologies for how you pronounced Scyther's name, but none of the English Speakers get an apology for hearing you say "Ar-say-us"
"Six arrows penetrating half the body" delivered what promised! Maybe that's not that a bad name after all...
I think when someone points out a problem in the translation or a lack of a joke or reference, this is more of a show on the company's doing rather than the translator. Translators are just doing what they can and I think that's what everyone thinks. (Some comments are defending translators but I don't think anyone was shaming them. I'm sure any translator knows that not all idioms or jokes can be fully expressed in a translator smoothly and I'm sure they're fine.)
I will say the second game did give MTL vibes since it felt so direct in translation
But yes~ so cool to see all this ^^ thank you for the video!!!
This is the best sponsor of Selfy Collection that I've ever seen
As a localiser / translator I know how hard it can be as we often dont have access to the game at the time of translating and have no direct connection to the devs and asking questions can take multiple days
4:42 Looking good, Greg!
"Genocide suit." xD You tried to hold back your laughter, but I wouldn't have been able to if I was making this video.
4:40 i love how the narrator just cracks at the grilled sweet potatoes
Douche meteor is my favourite collection of words uttered by another human
Fuck the haters
That translator needs a raise.
"How much footage have you collected from that dress-up game?"
"Not enough"
"Dude, you've been playing that for days"
"I'm gonna need more time with it"
Here's a case of game translation that actually worked really well In the form of a brand new joke:
In Sly 4: Thieves In Time, During the mission where you spread speakers across Madam Decibel's office In the effort of distracting her with rock music, Salim Al Cupar makes the humorous comment "It makes sense, The Rok-bird does eat elephants." The Rok is a giant bird originating from arabian legends from it's middle ages known for itXs invincibility and ability to lift up massive animals with it's strong claws. It simply fitted so well with the context that the translators couldn't pass their chance.
4:30 There’s, there’s no way those translations actually exist right? What the heck?!
was that a faint discord unmute sound at 2:40?
12:45 Hahaha :-) not nearly bad enough to be worth an apology, IMO you did pretty well! Just in "insecte" (and therefore "insécateur") the beginning "in" part isn't pronounced "een" but closer to "hen" :-)
The moment you lost composure during narration of this video was great. I can imagine you couldn't keep a straight face when you said "Grilled Sweet Potatoes Autumn Breeze."
He can't keep a straight face in any of his videos tbh.
Playing through Golden sun series rn. Man, this series didn't get the love it deserved. Isaac/Matthew should be in smash.
I really want an HD remaster of these games tbfh
13:08 30 years? Time really flies when the 25th anniversary was last year.
Someone seriously needs to do a study on whether simulated gambling in video games has any correlation with real life gambling addictions. Much like the myth that video games cause violence, I assume it probably doesn't in the slightest.
From my own anecdotal obersvations, it depends. Simply having a card game in a game, probably isn't gonna have an effect. But if a game includes stuff like gacha mechanics, which is very similar to stuff like slots, then they will use features that are very similar to what actual slot machines use in order to trigger people with addictive personalities into spending more and more. There's apparently been studies into that (which I admit I haven't read, but have seen referenced in enough articles and statements onmine by actual psychologists that I kinda just take them for granted), which say that slot machines and gacha games alike use sounds, graphical effects and coercive messages which are all aimed to affect the addictive personalities mindset and send them into the adrenaline / dopamine releasing spiral that sees them gamble again and again, just one more spin, JUST ONE MORE SPIN, that can have them lose far more money than they consciously would have if those effects weren't present.
So yes- I don't think the presence of card games alone can affect people. It's card games with the specifics of a casino around them, with the particular allures and attractions casino owners (and gacha developers) have put into them to guide people to a path where they spend and spend and spend, that are dangerous and merits an 18+ rating.
nice to know that camelot still thinks about golden sun too as a fan it gives me hope that someday we will get a new game
I saw HELLOFRESH as HELL OF RESH which had me wondering what the hell RESH was
8:01 As of there never were Pirates in the Yellow Sea... I think that's highly unlikely. Especially given Taiwanese Sea Trade, which given Chinese Law officially would be seen as Piracy. (And vice-versa as these two won't stop butting heads anytime soon.)
You actually pronounced the french pokemon name pretty well...
This content never disappoints through the sponsorship in the middle of the video seems out of place to me.
They gotta get that bag somehow
And no required by youtube "contains paid sponsorship"
...what the heck is Pokemon Legends *Are-say-us???*
Man, I really wish Camelot could work on a new Golden Sun with how they're including references in sports titles now.
There is a Mobil game made by the same people behind selfie collection, Cocoppaplay, that also has odd writing. The game is also extremely greedy
Douche Meteor has me cracking up and attracting disapproving looks on the train
China censors all skulls for some reason, I think that was the main issue they had with the pirate outfit.
Yeah Arceus is really good. It's the first pokemon game where I might actually finish the Pokedex
I didn't know TinierMe (the american port of GCREST's @games) made it to the Nintendo Switch after it died back in 2010!
Ah yes, the classic Mario "OOO" block.
I believe the official pronunciation of Arceus was the one on the video, but it was later changed to "Ar-kay-us". The reason (that I'm not sure it's true), is to avoid the similar sound to "arse".
The director of the English dub for the anime at the time said that was why they changed it to a K for the Arceus movie's English dub. As for "Ar-say-us," it's closer to "Ar-say-oos," which is really how Aruseusu should be pronounced after "translation" from Japanese.
Missed opportunity to say "pardon my French" at the end there.
I have the Selfy collection: Dream fashion stylish game and this made me burst out laughing. I will definitely be on the lookout for those outfits.
That Selfy game has the most bizarre translations. What a trip.
How has I never heard of Selfy Style’s mistranslation, they’re amazing
Selfy Collection is ESRB E.
ESRB was slacking I see.
This video kinda makes me wanna play that Selfey game
"Are say us" that's a new one..
I'm impressed by that Selfy Collection game, not only has an incredibly poor translation, it also has an E rating, literally no one proof read it
Hey dykg, could you do a video on every rumor and legend on pokemon games updated please.
alright but "the eyebrows of a literary writer who begins to think" is a damn good description
“Forest midget mini dress” 💀💀💀
Steal Fido's look
The mistranslations were hilarious, but considering the weird names most items have in japanese I can see the problem in translating them.