Emulation is what got me into retro gaming over a decade ago. Now I own over a 100 retro cartridges, and you know how much money Nintendo got from me for buying all those? The same they got from me emulating them.
@@Hide_Me I've heard this said quite a few times when this topic pops: piracy doesn't really lose you much money. The one that pirated it, wasn't gonna buy it regardless. Also it may just become free advertisement and make new fans.
@@Kalvinjj yeah. Yet emulation gets such a bad rap. Without it, we wouldn't be seeing retro games on our newer systems. It is still true today. Pc users don't want a console, so they were never going to buy your game for console in the first place. Yet if a version of a Nintendo or Sony game was available on pc to buy at a fair price, download, play, and keep forever, people will 99 percent of the time do that instead out of convenience and easability. So yeah, you are right, its been shown before that it is not really a lost sale, cause yeah, they were never going to buy it anyways for whatever reason.
Truth. One guy can make 300 bucks from one old cartridge that the game companies won't see a dime for, or the company instead could make $5000 selling 5000 digital downloads for a dollar a piece. Company makes money, customer gets to experience game for virtually no legal/financial risk, and everyone can be happy. And the cartridge people can do whatever they were gonna do anyway.
Gabe Newell summarized it perfectly: "The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." And that also applies to game emulation.
GabeN literally built an empire out of the neglected PC gaming market, game stores and publishers only cared about console and mobile, even Microsoft shunned PC gaming.
Same thing applies to TV/movies/music. Streaming made it a LOT easier to consume content conveniently, so piracy went down drastically. But then streaming got split between tons of different platforms, so piracy's back up
Where i live, triple a games are 15 dollars, it is still to much for my people since our money is near worthless but people do buy from steam because of it. Noone is giving 600 on a game, when average salary is 4000
Yes and no... When I try and look for game footage to contemplate whether or not to buy a certain game, it is waaaay too hard nowadays to find "real" footage of a game, especially the more obscure ones released before the TH-cam-age.
@@Yoshiman2024 I think what you said is just a consequence of what Nido the King said. The reason it's hard to find "real" footage is because the fake footage is so much better, so that's what people do. I can relate, I'm actually making a review for Mario 64, using footage from the original cart, and I didn't even realize how blurry it looked until I captured footage from Star Fox 64 off the Switch service for a joke and the contrast for those three seconds was insane. I'm never recording off of original carts again if I can help it. Unfortunately I already have a whole season's worth recorded...
seriously. I've seen let's plays before where they use real hardware and recording devices, and it's looks shit because the video quality of the original console is so bad
Instead of talking about video games and everything Nintendo he now talks about pencils and the best paint drying videos also don’t worry about the dog I didn’t put his dna in the dog
The piracy/emulation situation always reminds me that games are more for gamers than for developers. Game companies don't want to preserve old games because they don't make them money anymore.
If GBA was released on 3DS VC I would have bought so many games, but no the one thing everyone was asking for and they didn’t do it, so I got all the games for feee on my 3DS instead, their loss I would have gladly paid $10 per GBA game for no reason
To be honest games for me should be prioritised more for the devlopers, not company developers that just want to profit of the works of their employees but the actual developers that create the games, is after all their work and if you apreciate the game and it's vision for what it is, then I think it should be respected to preserve the game as the creator intended, since modifications that emulation produce in fact modifies the experience that the creator had for it, or if they want to still preserve to this day or want to wait for a time to make it available again, is no only their product, but their creation as well and it could feel bad if a random person now wants to determine the fate of your creation without you having a word about it, videogames are not natural resources that should be available for anyone. If the creator is fine with it then go for it since it provides the opportunity to expose the game for many people, but if the creator has it's concerns and do not want the game to be exposed in that way and wants to wait foor a time to expose it, it is that bad? Emulation and pirancy are always gona be a topic of debate and we need to consider every variable before commiting into it in my opinion. It varies so much in many cases and can not be an universal truth that is only good or bad.
@@supaskiltz9877 you probably already know this but you can get semi-official looking gba vc, now it doesnt use an official nintendo emulator but it looks convincing enough, get the ultimate injector it makes a cia of the rom
The problem with companies "just emulating" is that fans have been doing it for decades for free at significantly better quality, while the big companies expect us to pay $70 for the original with like, two extra features
While true, at the same time, official emulation projects tend to be limited in terms of stuff like deadlines, gauging potential profit and wages, and just generally remaining within the realm of “legality”, so of course possibly decade-long projects done for free by passionate fans are going to inevitably just be better in every way
@@jomaq9233 But the thing is: THE BIG COMPANIES OWN THE HARDWARE. They know it inside and out. Fans only took decades because big companies hid everything from us. And again, $70 price tag for worse quality than free
More like every other second and third world countries. Like bruh some of us don’t even have PCs and your pretty much privileged to have a Laptop with 4 gbs of ram and integrated graphics.
OpenEmu is the best to use for mac emulators, but it’s kinda limited like I haven’t figured out how to change things like Lil Manster to add the QOL changes that emulator added (idk how to patch the rom)
Isn't it fitting how GabeN is the only guy still in the tripleA video game industry to decently understand why piracy is actually done. The creator of Steam-the platform that re-released the most video games- is the only person in the triple A video game industry. SEGA may go easier on piracy than any other game company, but that's because they can use it to find remarkable potential employees.
My college forced us to emulate extremely old games, and write an essay on them. I questioned the legality of it, and my lecturer said "As long as it's before [Year], it should be ok"' I didn't chose the thug life, the thug life chose me.
Tbh, about the savepoints: Back in the day games were made way more difficult to make then seem longer, so a bunch of them were just unfair. In those cases i feel like saves work just fine
Some people hold that unfairness as quality as in hard good easy bad, when really there a more ways to make a game hard without being unfair or giving one checkpoint every 20 level
@@dekumidoriya2928 soulslikes usually use a bonfire system, where once you use one you will spawn there when you die and you can teleport between them. theres also always bonfires before bosses.
emulation is terrible. Now excuse me while I go buy paper mario: the thousand year door for $125 from my local video game store which is more than double the price from when it released 18 years ago and where none of the proceeds will go to nintendo.
The main thing I hate about company’s going after emulation is the fact that one day every cart will stop working, every disc will rot no matter how well you take care of it, these things happen due to time, online files never rot, undeniably emulation is the best way to preserve games
That is exactly the point. Nintendo wants their fans to do not have control in what they can or cannot play. It is so convenient to sell the same 30-year-old game for the 20th time in the same decade to the same target audience for an absurd price. With emulation, fans don't need Nintendo's re-releases and collections. Furthermore, Nintendo finds its own trademark divine, and seeing it for free online is so painful for them. "Why does Nintendo don’t just release Virtual Console on Switch? They would win even more money!" Simple. With Virtual Console, fans would play whatever they want for a fair price. Everything Nintendo doesn't want. Emulation makes old Nintendo's games old, and their stupid re-releases give them a bit of youth. Nintendo want you to love their retro games and still not be able to buy and play them, so when they release Super Mario 3D All-Stars, for example, you'll buy immediately.
Another feature of emulation is the ability to make rom hacks and fan games. GBA Pokémon in particular has a ton of rom hacks ranging from catch ‘em alls, adding mons and mechanics from newer games, extra hard difficulty, and even completely new games with new stories. Radical Red is one of my favorite Pokémon experiences and I think stuff like that deserves a place in gaming
Pirating a video game is (in most English speaking countries) is illegal, but it's not a criminal offence. That means that the company has to actually contact you and sue you personally, which is really not worth the effort for targeting the people downloading, only the people supplying the copies on a mass scale.
You think one guy sued an elderly woman who put a listing for a CD for $10 all she did was sell her husbands old stuff but since it was an illegal boot she was fined $10,000 This was German btw
I lived since my pre-teens until early adulthood in the US (coming from South America) and I emulated games a lot because I liked emulation and seeing what it was capable of, and because I mostly emulated games that at that time were not available anywhere else, and I was not going to get an old tv just to play some games, it was mostly games I had missed (knew about them but didn't have the opportunity to play them) in my childhood in the 90's and so I emulated them, nothing ever happened. I otherwise owned all the current consoles (at the time) of the 6th and 7th gen and paid for every single game and played online. The same thing with PC gaming for the last almost 15 years, I buy everything legally, specially since Steam and other stores started having regional pricing (I stil paid the normal 50-60 usd for a game from time to time, but now some cost 20-30 or less sometimes due to regional pricing).
@@jmurray1110 Yeah, that was a bootleg CD, of course, it would be taken seriously. You don't sell this stuff, even if you didn't make it. Unless you're as big as Amazon, I guess.
It really is. Because the only people that are ever actually contained by laws are exactly that - either too lazy to put up resistance to them, or too stupid to get around them . . . though you can also substitute apathy for laziness I guess. If you're a smart criminal, you can skirt the law for years upon years beyond it ever mattering (and the smartest end up in politics and legalize their actions even), and if you're motivated to break a law it's a guarantee you'll be able to do so with enough effort.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe dude nobody is looking for you by pirating Mario 64... The laziness comes more from the fact emulation have far more steps than people like to admit, also because you are downloading illegal software, it also tends to have malicious software, and my god if you have a expensive PC you won't take that risk.
The illegal part of piracy is uploading roms/games online. Downloading a rom is not illegal (depending on were you live), thats why if you look up anti piracy screens (real one's) it usually say something like "Report this copy" or "To report this copy call [Phone number]" or some times "We hope that you buy a real [Console] and legit games" Downloading is not illegal. uploading is.
17 U.S. Code § 501 - Infringement of copyright (a) Anyone who violates any of the exclusive rights of the copyright owner as provided by sections 106 through 122 or of the author as provided in section 106A(a), or who imports copies or phonorecords into the United States in violation of section 602, is an infringer of the copyright or right of the author, as the case may be. You're an idiot. It's most certainly illegal.
Emulation is so important for preserving gaming history. When stores like the PSP close and a whole library of digital only games are lost to time for one reason or another - emulation can help keep those games alive. The same can be applied to retro gaming as a whole. it is SO important to keep gaming history alive and its a crying shame companies either don't care to preserve their games themselves or actively stop it like Nintendo. I almost always suggest trying to go through "legal" means to play games but when its not possible or just not a feasible option due to a variety of reasons - emulation should be welcomed into gaming with open arms.
It is welcome, the ones against it are corporations (nintendo included) that get no money out of it, and since they only like money they fight against it
If it wasn't for emulation, I would never get to play some of the best games and classics on PSP or GBA, now they are some of my favourite games and I can have a sentiment for something I would normally miss. I understand the legality issues with emulation but... If you just want to play a 20 year old game that is so hard to buy anywhere that it sometimes feels even more illegal than actual piracy, it's hard to argue against the emulation and, as you said, how it allows old classics to stay alive and be available for younger generations.
PSP doesn't even have batteries made for it anymore and most of the original batteries are swollen and dangerous. Who wants to play a PSP plugged into a wall? Not certainly as it was intended.
Finally a TH-cam that talks about emulation and doesn’t hide behind the “here’s my physical copy of the game I burned it onto my pc this is legal so can’t get me” no Scott straight up tells it like it is. Legit no one has gone to jail for downloading roms
And no one ever will Distributors on the other hand.... Ofc they literally make money out of stuff they didn't make so it don't have any particular sympathy
@@DimT670 Plenty of people make money out of stuff they didn't make. Bobby Kotick didn't make Diablo 1, 2, or 3. Starcraft 1 or 2. Warcraft 1, 2, 3, or the World of. Any of the Call of Duty games. And many, many more. He makes millions of dollars EVERY YEAR. All while firing the people that actually DID make those games. Where do we draw the line on who gets to make money on something they had nothing to do with?
@The Lost Wooly We don't buy emulated games. We download them. I already bought the game years ago, and the company that decided I don't get to experience it anymore when my decades old hardware failed can just deal with it
@The Lost Wooly I just have trouble understanding the whole "might" want to rerelease. Rereleasing should be a no brainer. It costs nothing aside from maybe figuring out how to emulate it on the specific hardware like the Switch and then putting the game file up on the eshop. There's no retailer fees or risks if the game doesn't sell well, there's only money to be lost by not doing. Heck, if they don't want to build the emulator, then let us continue using the private ones and sell the game files behind a legal download link. Even if it doesn't help with the convenience and people could just copy and share the files, it's already being done anyway! At least then download links would be trustworthy and get rid of the main justification for pirating of having no alternatives to play the game.
@@jacobg8640 The whole "figuring out how to emulate" is bigger than you think. Hiring teams to do that takes time and money and can take an extreme amount of work. And if its a port? even worse
Preservation is my eternal middle finger towards anti-piracy stances. It's clear from lack of legal support that no company is invested enough in their own history to attempt true, full scope preservation. The best they can do is rereleases of the hits everybody knows or batches of backwards compatible titles baked irregularly. If Nintendo in particular have a problem with retro emulation then they have my permission to do better. For that, we're still waiting.
I don't understand why theft and vandalism are seen as morally grey these days. Companies don't want true full-scope preservation because then everyone will be so busy playing old games that they won't buy new games that companies can charge more for.
Everytime emulation or video game piracy comes up I think of Ross Scott's videos he's made on the preservation of games and how, many studios don't allow this and or care for older titles they've made, and going forward many games are a "service" per say so when the game developer pulls the plug on an always online game your screwed out of being able to play it. I'm all for preservation, I believe we should be allowed to play older titles that we may not be able to play because of console or cartidge availbility, or price.
While still think radical red is too hard to ever be a real game, I really wish the real games would take notes from it. Along with making the game harder, npcs used a lot of different strategies and items, forcing you to do the same. Games like RR prove Pokémon’s battle system is much more complex and interesting than you’ll ever see in the main game
@@Blastronaute same goes for the "newer super mario bros" series, which COMPLETELY overhauls those games. Not 1 level is the same, and in some cases the game feels 100% diffrent. Its not like the minecraft "create" mod, which ADDS things that change the game a lot, but you can still ignore or forget.
Gonna be honest, of all things for Scott to cover, I never would've expected Emulation of all things. Really awesome video Scott!! Good points!! Now, if you excuse me, I'm going to jail for using Project64 9 years ago.
Eh odds are this is related to the Kotaku debacle of saying'' just pirate and emulated Metroid dread'' basically riding on the coattails of that news wave that happened .. not that I blame the guy but the timing is way too much a matching scenario as he has done similar on older vids to maximize views and such Edited for a typo
@@lloydlandrum3040 Small correction here. All the kotaku article said was that people are emulating Metroid Dread, and at higher resolutions than Switch. It never stated any specific stance for or against emulating it. Just that it's happening.
you can completely legally dump your own roms, without downloading them. you just gotta buy an adapter to connect cartridges and such to your computer. this was legally proven in the Bleem! vs Sony case
Which means you can freely download them because who the fuck can actually prove that dump is yours or one you downloaded because the file is going to appear the exact same either way. And they know this, if it wasn't the case they would bring people who download these games to court just to prove a point and deter people.
Save states are honestly a blessing in emulations. It saves you the time and pain from going all the way from your last checkpoint to the point you died last time and having to repeat multiple times.
I've always played that you get tax dollars for landing on free parking. Idk if that's the correct way or not but looking back it definitely makes the game take longer than it should
@@dont-feed-ben4833 its not. The default rules are faster then all the house rules people have. In fact some house rules exist to speed the game up because of some other house rule slowing things down.
Pirating and emulation are almost always issues of CONVENIENCE. If a decent port is available from the original publisher for a decent price, the majority will choose that. If a game requires old hardware, is incredibly rare or grossly overpriced, people will emulate. As much as Nintendo and other companies complain about emulation, it is really quite a simple (and profitable) fix for them to just perserve their old titles.
When they do rereleased older games, all I see is people complaining about having to pay for them and go straight back to pirating so why should Nintendo bother?
@@crazyfire9470 Exactly. Nintendo Swith Online is 20 dollars a year for a bunch of old games, and people still bitch about "I don't really own them". And with the virtual console, the same stuff, complaining about paying for old games. So a bunch of people only want shit for free. Like fans that pirate tv shows and then complain when they got cancelled because they didn't made any money.
@@crazyfire9470 From what I've seen that's mostly with games that they have effectively already bought. Like,, 'Why do I have to buy this again on the Nintendo e-shop, I already bought it on the Wii shop!' I hardly ever see people who complain about having to pay for games that are released for emulation for the first time officially (like,, No one complained about having to buy Earthbound once it was finally added to the e-shop, just moreso confusion over why it cost twice as much as other snes games)
@@crazyfire9470 You see that because the price points are insane. Project64 was able to emulate Majora's Mask in 2011 perfectly, and that's available for free. The game is 21 years old. Charging $50 or $30 or even $19.99 for the convenience of playing it on a modern console is absurd. If Nintendo can get MM to work as easily on Switch as I can on PC, then it's highway robbery to charge $20 for that. Rerelease emulated ports that have been long available elsewhere should be dirt cheap. I'd pay $5, maybe $10 for an emulated port of N64 MM on Switch, but it really should be like $3.99. Any more than that just isn't reasonable for the work involved.
"ItS oN sWiTcH tHoUgH!" Yeah, a system that hasn't been out my whole 30 years of life, imagine that. Almost like I downloaded the ROM quite the number of years ago or something. Imagine that, people doing things a long time ago. Weird, I know!
As much as I want to support game developers, piracy sometimes is the only way to get your hands on a certain game. I have a psp, and with the online store dead and game disks being impossible to find in my country nowadays, roms are god's blessing. It hardly has anything to do with money, if a game's accessible, I'll be more than happy to pay for it.
Interestingly some lawyers have brought up the legality of downloading game copies you already own. It basically boiled down to this: If you already own a copy of a game, you are legally allowed to make a backup as it counts as software but you have to do it off of your own copy yourself... Maybe. See, they also stated that whether or not downloading it or making it yourself matters when the end result is the same is up in the air as it was never tested by courts. (See the video: "Smash Bros. "Big House" Online Tourney Cancelled by Nintendo") Something tells me game companies don't want to test it either because the last time something like that happened, the one who tried it lost hilariously and they're scared of it. "Bleem!" is what I'm referring to and courts ruled that the emulation was legal and their use of screenshots to market it is fair use. Now... Some people think that the legal fees were what put Bleem! out of business which is what Sony was going for to begin with. But that's debatable because it ended up setting a precedent for the future of emulation, opening up more than just Bleem! to get a foothold (which it did), but no one knows for sure why Bleem! went under. They might've made more stuff than they sold thinking that it would catch on more than it did for all we know. Plus Sony would never have known what their funds were and they could've lost a ton to Bleem! and inadvertently funded their operations. Even when Nintendo took ROMUniverse to court and "won", they didn't exactly "win". See the video "Nintendo Wins Empty Victory over ROMUniverse (Nintendo v. Storman)". So the more things that come out about emulation and ROMs, the more it looks like smoke and mirrors by companies just to scare people so they can generate sales even though people who weren't going to pay still wouldn't. Sort of like how they handled copyright on TH-cam where they would claim basically anything even though lawyers said that they couldn't. Primarily companies do so to intimidate people into thinking they had the right to and to make money they weren't entitled to. When people pushed back, the companies had no choice but to back down as their public relations were so negatively perceived between them being found to have been illegally abusing the copyright system and going after their most devoted fans that it became a nightmare for them. ....Needless to say I find this topic incredibly interesting which is why I looked into all of this, lol! I think it's because it's such a gray area that there's a lot of possibilities. Overall, I too would agree that however people play games isn't a big deal, nor is emulation. Companies aren't really "losing" sales that never could have existed to begin with and they are certain;y not going under anytime soon. Developers are already paid during game development anyway as well. Anything after that point is just funds that go to the company and not the developers that actually worked hard on the games to begin with. Thus companies are really the one double dipping and trying to make people feel bad. Heck... more than double in a lot of cases. But then there are cases like you mentioned where they complain about games being emulated they aren't even selling anymore like Melee. I've seen people actually make arguments that they don't have to make their entire library available and that people aren't entitled to have access to them at any time. But if companies don't care enough to keep them available, then why would people care if others emulate them?
If so then I don't get why people bitch so hard about Nintendo in this point, they can't stop piracy, so why is there even a discussion? Like that Mario trilogy controversy, or is it people nothing better to do than whining about corporations?
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr Because Nintendo still works really hard to make it impossible. Emuparadise was a safe website that made it really easy to get old roms. I don't have the super expensive hardware to rip my old game carts, so this was an amazing thing to have. Nintendo sued them into irrelevancy, and now they don't host roms anymore. Now you have to go back to the sketchy sites again, or sources I won't mention here for fear of Nintendo shutting them down too. These giant corporations deserve all the criticism. And you dare to call it "whining" when we point out their abusive behavior?
The fact he talked about emulation instead of the Nintendo Online Expansion like everyone else is is the absolute funniest thing ever to me. So perfect, this is why this is my favorite channel
Big mood. Sometimes emulation is the only way to preserve and play old games that companies don't make available. I'm not gonna blame someone for not wanting to spend a ton of cash hunting down old hardware and software when the option is available. And big mood on letting people play the way they want. As a Fire Emblem fan it's so annoying to hear snobs shit on casual mode even though they can just choose classic mode. If the harder option is there then let people enjoy the accessibility of easy features.
Agreed. Emulation let me play old PSP games on PC that I couldn't play long long ago because my poor thing broke at the time, but now I can literally replay them with a dang ps4 controller, it's a beautiful thing.
I played Pokemon platnium a ton in my childhood. That save file I have for the DS had some of my best memories of primary school. Do I like the decisions that I made while playing? No. Do I want to replay the game now that I'm an adult so I can appreciate the game more? Yes. Do I want to delete that save which again, contains fond memories of childhood? Also no. Therefore, emulation
@@iiiivvvv9986 emulation also helps content circunventing through mindboggling decisions from the devs, like Game Freak insisting to only have 1 save file per Pokemon cartridge. Because as much as I want to play Black/White in Hard Mode, I really don't wanna lose my previous save file to do that
dude, im from a country where it was so easy to get a pirate copy of a game that i never saw a official psx disk until 12 and a official gba cadtridge until 16 XD
Yeah, thats kinda a case where I think that the morality of preserving history outweighs any of the legality issues, as some games are only kept alive by emulator. Especially as it is so common that companies go defunct or ignore the game entirely. Some games are so extremely rare that the common folk can onlt access it throughe emulation. Then theres the case of localisation, as theres entire catalogues people in the west have no official translation to, the most famous example being Mother 3 fans are still waiting for an official english release.
Big shout out to the random dude in college who put left 4 dead and star fox 64 out of my Macbook pro in 2008. You gave me many hours of joy And I can never thank you enough.
Scott here makes a similar point to another famous Scott, of the Ross variety, that games shouldn't die. I agree with this beyond wholeheartedly. If a game company is done with a game, letting it just die is wrong. I am not a PC emulator user myself, but the fact that there are a lot of old games that still live because of emulators makes me happy. The work and manhours that go into any given game is insane, and a company just letting that work die because they are bored of selling it is awful. I'm glad to see the more famous Scott take a positive stance for game preservation, even though there is still a long way to go for more games to be safe.
At Least They Just Port Those Games To modern consoles But they still feel the same just a normal game but with no deference other that you are Playing on a different Controller
@@tree561 Most old games aren't ported. Just cuz a lot of em are, doesn't mean a lot of em are. And most ports are pretty shitty or trade a feature out for another, have janky controls etc.
Sega is like the complete opposite to Nintendo when it comes to emulation. I recently got some games from the Sega Mega Drive and Genesis Classics on Steam and they literally provide you with the roms. You can either just play them in their emulator or if you feel like it just pop them in your favorite emulator and have fun that way. This approach where you just spend a buck or two to play old games, which you then actually own almost completely negates the need to pirate stuff.
@@S.I.L. but do they still make gamecubes, wiis or snes's? I don't think so, so bundling some more obscure roms that they wouldn't of put on nso into a collection won't negatively impact them at all.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn why you guys act like the only games you download are the ones Nintendo don't sell anymore? We all know is not true, I'm ok with people emulating, the only thing is annoying is this high ground you take where there is an evil corporation, we aren't in an illumination movie, this kind of childish behavior is why gamer is an insult nowadays.
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr Get off your high horse. Most emulation these days extends maybe to the GameCube. PS2 and above requires beefy hardware. Sure, some modern games have been successfully emulated, but to assume people haven't paid for those games because they are emulating them is asinine as well. I personally have a little handheld that can emulate everything up to PS1, and I loaded all my old games on it, and you can sit and spin for pretending like I must be stealing modern games for doing so. You take the straw men companies line up and prop them up for those companies, when people just want to play games that aren't easily available anymore.
Emulation is one of the greatest things to ever happen in video game history. There, I said it, cry about it, I didn't buy a SNES game for $900. Preservation, ROM HACKS, FAN GAMES, breaking apart games to deconstruct their code, giving generations a way to play games from before their time or ones they missed out on.
I'd kill to see research done on how many top notch gaming coders working for big industries started off messing around with old game code and emulators. How much these businesses trying to strike down emulation owe to it for creating some of their best minds.
I may prefer original hardware for many games, but emulation is definitely the better way to experience them, especially in the long term. Emulation is an amazing tool, because not everyone is going to be as stupid as me and go out of their way to own 28+ game consoles and hundreds of games.
When Nintendo released the NES mini, instead of doing any work whatsoever porting games, they stole the work of the community that extracted the roms from the cartridges and that wrote the emulators and used that instead. They literally went to piracy sites, downloaded the pirated games and put them on their console. They actually included certain files that unmistakably were written by the emulation community.
@@liammcnicholas918 I fail to see how this fact shames save-state users, if anything I'd rather download a rom of Mario 3 for saving than make $60 deal with Nintendo to get official save states.
The most that can happen is that your ISP sends a letter to scare you (usually only happens if they catch you on a torrent). Unless you live in Germany, which in that case you get executed without a trial.
Well, SoujaBoy was pretty close to jail for selling Nintendo games on his chinesee console 🤔 Is there any news for smash bros on my souja boy console btw?
Most people don't realize that they merely purchase a license to play a game when they "buy a copy" of them. Read the terms & conditions. You might find something interesting, fellas.
@@austinfondren5053 yup. People don't realise that even when they buy a physical game. They *still* don't own the game. They own the plastic that hosts the game (wether it's a disc, card or cartridge) but the game is still 100% owned by the copyright holders. Buy a game is actually, as you said, paying for a lisence to play it. The advantage of getting a physical copy however is that the license is transferrable.
@@PeakEditsFireChungus yeah but i was referring to when something is still being sold. Someone from a different video (not sure if the story is. entirely true) talked about wanting to get some racing game on pc but didn’t have the money so instead got a pirated version of the game and thats when the ip sent him a letter about it
Great point about the original games "feeling right" on the original consoles, i've never considered before that the type of controller you used could change the experience you have with a specific game
I’m playing Super Metroid rn on switch and Metroid Fusion on a PC emulator using a PLAYSTATION CONTROLLER. it does feel weird and i never played either games on the original hardware
It's true for some games, I tried playing Jet Set Radio through the ps3 HD version and it felt pretty weird and I was messing up alot of tricks, so I just chalked it up to the game being old and put it down. Few years later when I started collecting, I got my hands on a DC and Jet Set and it was a night and day difference in the controls.
this is especially true with games like NiGHTS into Dreams on Sega Saturn, where the game was designed concurrently with a specific controller, there's a ton of little nuances tht future ports and modern thumbsticks just don't capture quite as well
If it's from a generation that's extremely rare or expensive I get why people do it but modern games that are cheap and readily available to buy there no excuse for piracy imo.
"Save states are cheating, play the game as intended" I've heard from some people. Meanwhile, in reality: Games were made harder in the US often to combat rentals and saves were not included in games because that made the cartridge more expensive. You think Battle Toads is a masochistic adventure? Boot up the Japanese version where it doesn't have friendly fire and gives more lives. Boy Resident Evil 1 & 2 could be hard- if you play the launch version in the US where they removed the lock on aiming and lowered the number of ink ribbons you got. Play Castlevania or Contra then play the JP version and realize just how boned we got. Emulation is great. Pirating games you don't own or can actually easily get that still supports the company? Is a great way to help make sure a series you love never gets support again. IDK how many great games are not being sold at all or not on modern platforms but goodness the list is long. Edit: Okay y'all need to calm down about pirating or actually read what I said. I never said piracy is 100% bad. If the company hasn't sold it for years? Yeah, go ahead and download Road Rash 3 on the Genesis, no one cares. You got DOOM 3 on CD but no disc drive- I'm sure Bethesda can deal with a download. Want to play Metroid Prime without CRT cables and you don't want to dig it out of the closet? Well Nintendo should have made a collection for Switch anyway. Photoshop is a bloated pile of garbage that's priced for corporations, not people, so go nuts- but also there's better software for cheaper so I would say don't bother pirating it, get something good. But if you're gonna pirate some indie developer's game? Yeah, that's not cool.
On the other hand, you had games like Mega Man 2 or Mario Bros 3 made easier for the US (or hell, the infamous case of Final Fantasy 4 getting turned into full-on baby mode). It's not quite a one-way street.
@@ExeloMinish That is true that some games were made easier- I would say most were made harder. But that's not my point... My point is they were made...Rather, the ones that WERE made harder here & we didn't get saves because that was more money they'd have to spend. So I argue that save states are either a counter to companies making our games harder for reasons that weren't our fault or countering the cheapness of not having a save battery in the cart.
@@CinnamonOwO Not true, at all. Just about every Konami game was made harder, Castlevania, Contra, from the NES to SNES/Genesis and so on. Contra Hard Corps was made so much harder it's unreal. You had 3 hits in JP vs 1 in the US, you get more continues and lives. The Castlevania games you took more damage and they changed enemy placement to be more hard Battle Toads Legendary difficulty is unique to the US, it's vastly easier in JP. Streets of Rage 3's hard mode is Japan's Mania mode in difficulty. Every enemy hits like a truck and moves faster. Resident Evil 1 & 2 removed the lock on, you took more damage & got less ink ribbons. You know that super hard mode you unlocked in remake where the chests weren't linked? That was how they were going to bring it to the US. The later versions of RE1 & 2 added the lock on back in. Devil May Cry 3's difficulties were SO skewed in the US on it's OG release. Every mode was one difficulty harder than the JP version- meaning we got an even harder mode. Metroid NES had lost it's 3 save files that the Famicom Disk version had leaving us to start with 32hp and almost no missiles. Ranger X had it's easiest mode removed, literally removing a tutorial level unique to it. I've heard some JRPGs lessened the money/exp earned to increase the grind- again all this crap was done to combat rentals since Nintendo was a big hand in making them illegal in Japan (without permission from the publisher). Those are the ones that I know off hand, there's way more than that I've seen over the years. So if there's more games that got made easier, that's news to me. I know there's a bunch but most of the big, popular ones seem to be way harder.
A very valid argument, at least in most cases. There is the argument of flexibility, however. Codes and any kind of built-in saving mechanics place you at specific points in the game, usually the very start of a level with whatever default powerups you may have at the beginning of the game. Save states allow you to save wherever, whenever, which can make any failure have no punishment at all, therefore removing any challenge and/or tension. It ultimately depends on the game and how often the save states are used, at least in my opinion.
@@329link Fair point; however, I typically only use save states when I a.) need to exit the game quickly without enough time to find a save station, or b.) am done playing and want to save before I use up all my power-ups. Of course, that refers to games that you *could* save in, I often use save states in Ristar, for example, to save after I beat a level or a world. Since you can't save in the original game, this makes progression SO much easier. I understand if you don't use save states, just don't force *me* to conform to *your* beliefs. This also applies to religion and politics.
@@MmmMmph1968 That was kinda my point. I use save states the same way. The issue comes in with people who can't help it, and end up abusing them horribly and ruining their experience by doing so. But ultimately, the problems that *can* arise aren't big enough to warrant the removal of save states, I was mostly just playing devil's advocate because I enjoy discussing these kinds of topics. I also agree with your last point.
To me there is such a thing as piracy and there is such a thing as "neither the hardware to play it on nor the game itself are avaliable to buy below 1000 dollars collectors price"
Bonus points if the reason it's so expensive is because you also need to buy a foreign console because the game NEVER FUCKING CAME OUT in your country thereby proving that the developers never wanted my money in the first place.
When Scott was talking about how annoying emulation is to actually set up properly I couldn't help but think of Retroarch and how much of a pain in the ass it can be to get working properly.
Yeah. RetroArch has a steep leaning curve for beginners. It can take a long time to get stuff configured right. Took me a long time to get the hang of it. It's worth the trouble I think.
I'm glad Scott was so real about this. I really have a problem w other gaming content creators that tell you how to hack a system but not how to load roms on it or to only load roms of games you already own. Scott laid it down perfect. Nobody cares
As someone who emulated games in their pc since i was like 4 (third world country, that's how it is round here) you definitely learn how to enjoy the games what they are, even when played in the "wrong" context
I got a wii and N3DSXL Which are cheap decades later I homebrewed the shit out of it Being in a third world country I just had to hack it and bomb a lot of emus on it
You couldn't have worded it better. I live in Brazil, this place is a poor 3rd world shithole filled with poor people (myself included). Most nintendo consoles and games literally cost more than a car here, nobody has the money to buy original hardware. Emulation and piracy are the main reason for why i got into pretty much all of my favorite game franchises.
Imagine a dvd player without a pause button because "you cant pause the movie on the theater!" It surprises me how good Scott is at making points in every way like, damn.
@@draguOdoT wasn't the "pause button" argument about using a save state specifically when closing the game and reopening it later? he used a different argument for using it to return to anytime.
The original has very satisfying movement and is a great platformer overall while rehydrated has (in my opinion) horrible movement and is kinda a glitchy mess. If you’ve never played the original then you’d probably think it’s a good game but if you played the original then there’s no going back. There’s a lot of other reasons but the original is just so much better
Personally I prefer the originals art style because it's similar to the early seasons of the show. The remake is based on the current seasons which looks worse to me. I also dislike the obnoxious meme faces they added from the current show.
I enjoy my ROM collection neatly organized, fully meta-data'ed, filterable, retro achievement powered, searchable, quickly navigated and everything else on my RetroArch setup as much as I like my pretty game boxes on the shelf.
@@chaosdimension6433 So you pee in a foley catheter or something? or you wait for a "boring scene" and rush to the bathroom and pee as hard as you possibly can?
@@Faded.Visuals What I do, and I know this is a revolutionary idea (thinking of patenting it) is........(drumroll) I pee before sitting to watch a movie
@@chaosdimension6433 And that's great! Because you can just ignore pausing if you want to, and others can just pause because its so much more convenient for them.
I stopped trusting what Nintendo said after downloading a SNES emulator on my old 2DS and having it run perfectly, despite Nintendo claiming they could only get SNES games to run on New 2DS/3DS models. Oh, and if I could download a car, I’d be driving a royal blue Lamborghini Huricán with absolutely no regrets.
I think the reason was that you needed the ZL and ZR buttons to switch between player 1 and 2. It sounds like dumb reasoning, but it's just the kind of reasoning Nintendo uses nowadays with Switch Online.
I have the greatest respect for people who create emulators. Those scene groups put thousands of hours into emulation simply for the Love of what they are doing. I guess it's never occurred to me that anyone thinks emulation is somehow trashy. It's literally ever crossed my mind to wonder what someone else might think about how I play a video game, I literally don't give a shit. I have a ton of original hardware / consoles, but I also enjoy emulation both on PC and newer consoles. I first discovered emulation on my shift OG Xbox and never looked back! Now I'm going to go play some Panzer Dragoon saga, on my Xbox S. Eat me
The only people that complain about emulators are the guys who are retro traditionalists or the guys who have blew their life savings on game collecting. I see nothing wrong with undermining greedy corporations like Nintendo, Sony, etc.
I also saw people who would complain about emulation are people who are just... well, simply said "Nasty, Cruel, and seek conflict." The people who care only about the Legal part (that emulation is "illegal", it IS NOT) or people who are just cruel and shout on others for the sake of stirring up a conflict! And because of "Legal" people like this who lick corporate's feet for whichever reason, I was too afraid to Emulate until my 22th of age/year... Oh, do not worry, I've lost nothing, emulation has only got better (over time) in my absence :-)
@@WeskAlber For sure, and emulation can also be good for reviving old high quality games that didn't sell amazingly well and were too expensive. Chibi Robo may be gone for now, but if the only way to get it was paying 100+ bucks and finding a GameCube, very few people would be able to experience it and demand it back. You can get a lot more grassroots interest that eventually leads to a series revival if people can access the game for less than the cost of a console and physical cart and can mod it as well. If I were a dev, in the long run I'd rather have people invested in my games than milk fans dry to the point where they pirate it. I'd slap my game on PC and never take it down and print copies as long as I can. I understand supply and demand but I can't help but feel like I'm being ripped off if someone enjoyed a game for a decade or more and then sells it to me for a hefty profit. There's something inherently dickish about it, even if I wouldn't call it "scalping" like people are doing with PS5's. The Disney/Nintendo Vault technique of controlling nostalgia to revive a game/movie on THEIR timeline is frankly bullshit market manipulation. If they don't want people pirating their shit, then maybe rerelease HeartGold and SoulSilver for a reasonable price /rant.
@@rompevuevitos222 Thank you, no one mentions this! Sega and Sony especially so get the pass from people, when they deserve as much of not more scrutiny then Nintendo.
@@indisciipline well technicality on some SEGA games that they copyright. SEGA supports emulation of fanmade sonic games that there is already a new Sonic hacking contest happening now that has been going on for years as well as another happen every summer.
And yet you get cases like Metroid Dread emulation that, in a way, validates Nintendo's stance. It's as the saying goes, "One bad apple ruins the bunch."
If it weren’t for emulation, I wouldn’t have been able to get into persona and ace attorney (before it released on pc) as well as Danganronpa. All three Of them impacted my life a lot and got me into multiple fandoms during my teenage years around 2012-2017. Also I had an ancient pc and the emulators worked decently on them without much lag, so I was able to play them despite my hardware being terrible. My parents also didn’t want to buy me any consoles and all I had was an old pc, so I made the best of it.
While it wasn't something explicity mentioned in the video, shoutouts to Fightcade which allows people to play emulated older fighting games online with other people with terrific netcode far greater than most ports of fighting games have had. It has revived a lot of titles that otherwise have fallen into obscurity.
I think there's a good serious analogy here: translation Ports are like buying a translated book: the (assumed perfect) translation takes effort, publication, and adds cost, but captures everything about the original in an official package for a new audience. Emulation is like a (hypothetical) perfect machine translation of a book on an ereader: every book can be read this way and it's a blessing it exists, but it lacks some of the original authorial intent and output is variable. Having a physical copy of a book has a number of beneficial qualities to it purposely chosen by the publisher, but the machine translation has an infinite library. Both have their benefits. Of course reading the book in its native language is another discussion altogether, as is the acquisition of the book
Emulation allowed me to play all my childhood games again as well as the games I missed and couldn't have played otherwise. Thanks to it, I finally can say as a MGS fan that I've played all the main line games. Emulation is also important for preservation of games and their history.
In all seriousness, this video does a great job of exposing all aspects of emulation and why it raises a lot of questions. Even if it doesn't give any conclusive answers, it can at least help you make your mind with it.
It’s interesting that Scott says emulators don’t work half the time. I’m not sure what emulators he’s using besides Dolphin, but I’ve literally never had issues with emulation. It’s as easy as download the rom, load the rom on the emulator, and you’re set
Emulators on Mac are still a little rough, but still very capable of functioning if you tinker around with them. The one he is shown using is OpenEMU, which is similar to RetroArch, as it has a lot of different emulator cores.
It can still be tricky setting up the paths for game detection and save files can be tricky if you don’t know what your doing plus you can run into problems of having to unzip and reformat file types which isn’t hard once you know what you are doing.
I feel like the fast foward feature on emulators was specifically made for JRPGs. I find it impossible to play through the Gen 4 Pokemon games without fast forward. Watching a Blissey's health go down is like watching paint dry.
Considering the cost of the Gen 4 games on the secondary market, emulation is the only option for most. HGSS are well over 120 bucks loose and DPPt aren't much better.
Reminds me of Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Door's "I Love You" 100 times. Using fast forward makes that part less of a tedious process to go through.
Seriously, we had the patience of saints playing GB/GBA games back in the day lol. Also, seeing that 500 fps on the emulator is something special lmao edit: older games, too. I forgot how agonizing going back to the original Final Fantasy was on NES >.
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Emulation is what got me into retro gaming over a decade ago. Now I own over a 100 retro cartridges, and you know how much money Nintendo got from me for buying all those? The same they got from me emulating them.
Honestly, as a poor kid with no money growing up, emulation is how I got into half the series I'm a paying customer for now.
@@Hide_Me I've heard this said quite a few times when this topic pops: piracy doesn't really lose you much money. The one that pirated it, wasn't gonna buy it regardless. Also it may just become free advertisement and make new fans.
Yup
This whole comment string is pure truth.
@@Kalvinjj yeah. Yet emulation gets such a bad rap. Without it, we wouldn't be seeing retro games on our newer systems. It is still true today. Pc users don't want a console, so they were never going to buy your game for console in the first place. Yet if a version of a Nintendo or Sony game was available on pc to buy at a fair price, download, play, and keep forever, people will 99 percent of the time do that instead out of convenience and easability. So yeah, you are right, its been shown before that it is not really a lost sale, cause yeah, they were never going to buy it anyways for whatever reason.
Remember, paying 300 bucks for a fucking SNES game wasn't the developer intended experience either.
Truth. One guy can make 300 bucks from one old cartridge that the game companies won't see a dime for, or the company instead could make $5000 selling 5000 digital downloads for a dollar a piece. Company makes money, customer gets to experience game for virtually no legal/financial risk, and everyone can be happy. And the cartridge people can do whatever they were gonna do anyway.
Yes
And also remember, collecting the games in the first place are how we got said roms.
Emulation or Hardware, play either. Both are important.
Nor was completely re-writing the game to play how the original did. Ironically wouldn't emulation be more faithful at that point?
Adjusted for inflation, they did intend for them to be like.. 180 bucks.
Gabe Newell summarized it perfectly: "The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." And that also applies to game emulation.
And that's why Gabe is god.
can confirm. used to play pirated pc games before steam made it really convenient for me to buy games online
GabeN literally built an empire out of the neglected PC gaming market, game stores and publishers only cared about console and mobile, even Microsoft shunned PC gaming.
Same thing applies to TV/movies/music. Streaming made it a LOT easier to consume content conveniently, so piracy went down drastically. But then streaming got split between tons of different platforms, so piracy's back up
Where i live, triple a games are 15 dollars, it is still to much for my people since our money is near worthless but people do buy from steam because of it. Noone is giving 600 on a game, when average salary is 4000
Emulation is easily the best way to capture game footage on older consoles.
Yes and no... When I try and look for game footage to contemplate whether or not to buy a certain game, it is waaaay too hard nowadays to find "real" footage of a game, especially the more obscure ones released before the TH-cam-age.
or handhelds like the ds,psp,3ds etc
@@Yoshiman2024 I think what you said is just a consequence of what Nido the King said. The reason it's hard to find "real" footage is because the fake footage is so much better, so that's what people do. I can relate, I'm actually making a review for Mario 64, using footage from the original cart, and I didn't even realize how blurry it looked until I captured footage from Star Fox 64 off the Switch service for a joke and the contrast for those three seconds was insane. I'm never recording off of original carts again if I can help it. Unfortunately I already have a whole season's worth recorded...
@@SeleDreams
Ds: play on a 3ds
Psp: play on the PS vita or ps3
3ds: You can't lol , even with emulators looks ruff
seriously. I've seen let's plays before where they use real hardware and recording devices, and it's looks shit because the video quality of the original console is so bad
got a dna sample and I'm gonna emulate scott
sup dude
Yes thank you Cyranek meme guy.
Instead of talking about video games and everything Nintendo he now talks about pencils and the best paint drying videos also don’t worry about the dog I didn’t put his dna in the dog
Please update if he runs on Nesticle
Finally I can play scott on my computer!
Prison inmate: “Whatcha’ in for kid?”
Me: “I pirated Gex”
"This is like playing on an emulator at Scott the Woz's house"
_Pirating didn't stimulate the economy, and that's not okay because I like stimulate the economy_
I would rather pirate Geist
Is this Gex?
I gave my daughter a choice and thus I pirated Garfield Racing
The piracy/emulation situation always reminds me that games are more for gamers than for developers. Game companies don't want to preserve old games because they don't make them money anymore.
If GBA was released on 3DS VC I would have bought so many games, but no the one thing everyone was asking for and they didn’t do it, so I got all the games for feee on my 3DS instead, their loss I would have gladly paid $10 per GBA game for no reason
To be honest games for me should be prioritised more for the devlopers, not company developers that just want to profit of the works of their employees but the actual developers that create the games, is after all their work and if you apreciate the game and it's vision for what it is, then I think it should be respected to preserve the game as the creator intended, since modifications that emulation produce in fact modifies the experience that the creator had for it, or if they want to still preserve to this day or want to wait for a time to make it available again, is no only their product, but their creation as well and it could feel bad if a random person now wants to determine the fate of your creation without you having a word about it, videogames are not natural resources that should be available for anyone. If the creator is fine with it then go for it since it provides the opportunity to expose the game for many people, but if the creator has it's concerns and do not want the game to be exposed in that way and wants to wait foor a time to expose it, it is that bad?
Emulation and pirancy are always gona be a topic of debate and we need to consider every variable before commiting into it in my opinion. It varies so much in many cases and can not be an universal truth that is only good or bad.
agreed the second they make it impossible for gamers to get the games officially as far as I am concerned its fair game
@@supaskiltz9877 you probably already know this but you can get semi-official looking gba vc, now it doesnt use an official nintendo emulator but it looks convincing enough, get the ultimate injector it makes a cia of the rom
And gamers who're playing retro games could be playing the shiny new game that makes them money. That's why console makers don't like it.
The problem with companies "just emulating" is that fans have been doing it for decades for free at significantly better quality, while the big companies expect us to pay $70 for the original with like, two extra features
bUt DoWnLoAdInG rOmS iS iLlEgAL
you cant convince me that PFP isnt 4-dimensional
While true, at the same time, official emulation projects tend to be limited in terms of stuff like deadlines, gauging potential profit and wages, and just generally remaining within the realm of “legality”, so of course possibly decade-long projects done for free by passionate fans are going to inevitably just be better in every way
@@jomaq9233 But the thing is: THE BIG COMPANIES OWN THE HARDWARE. They know it inside and out. Fans only took decades because big companies hid everything from us. And again, $70 price tag for worse quality than free
We have a saying in Brazil: "Emulating Nintendo games is a civil duty."
I guess I’m going to Brazil.
*Metendo
@@walkerphillips2818 rip
More like every other second and third world countries. Like bruh some of us don’t even have PCs and your pretty much privileged to have a Laptop with 4 gbs of ram and integrated graphics.
Amém.
He got the emulators for mac to ACTUALLY WORK! That's some serious dedication right there!
I've gotten that to work too,
until it decided not to.
Hence why I don't use emulators.
He used open emu which is a pretty solid mac exclusive emulator
@@seetrogreen2042 Exactly, I just started using it a week ago and it’s already running really well on my Mac.
OpenEmu is the best to use for mac emulators, but it’s kinda limited like I haven’t figured out how to change things like Lil Manster to add the QOL changes that emulator added (idk how to patch the rom)
back in 2012-14 they worked flawlessly with openEMU...
2014 is when my macbook died and i built a pc and now I'm a stereotype
“I also killed a man.”
Aha! So Steel Wool ISN’T the only murderer around here!
Of corse not! Jerry killed someone too
Thank you Mrs. Liza Lotts
It’s normal to murder for this guy.
*wasnt* steel is very dead
He was lying, as a joke!
Isn't it fitting how GabeN is the only guy still in the tripleA video game industry to decently understand why piracy is actually done. The creator of Steam-the platform that re-released the most video games- is the only person in the triple A video game industry. SEGA may go easier on piracy than any other game company, but that's because they can use it to find remarkable potential employees.
They ended up paying for Denuvo on Sonic Frontiers
@@M_CFV They were already doing DRM at the time of Sonic Mania & Forces, that caused a game-breaking bug at the time
Steam is far too convienient to use to bother pirating anything on it. Other game launchers on the other hand...
@@M_CFV The game is brand fucking new. They want to maximize sales before the game becomes irrelevant and pirated left and right
@@thegamerfe8751 because battlenet games are always online slop
My college forced us to emulate extremely old games, and write an essay on them.
I questioned the legality of it, and my lecturer said "As long as it's before [Year], it should be ok"'
I didn't chose the thug life, the thug life chose me.
What was your course?
Incredible college my dude
I'm a 8th grade student at centennial middle school and during patriot period I got a emulator to run on a school computer no joke
@@triobros98 standby, a police car is on route to your living space and you'll be arrested shortly.
@@nisnast it's in a legal gray area
I don't know anybody who thinks emulation is bad. They all agree that 400$ for Suikoden II isn't worth it.
Yup, and again, not a single penny of that $400 is going to the copyright holder anyways.
Is it even legal for games to cost more then the system
@@Elderberry4199 They think that just because downloading ROMs is illegal the whole emulation scene is illegal.
@@absorbentstudios6940 yes, but it's pretty stupid for that to be the only legal way to get the game
@@willuigi64 thats really stupid not pretty stupid
“At the end of the day, just do what you want.
Gotcha.” *walks away*
Most appropriate ending line ever.
He walks away holding a gun, btw
I think you missed the part where he was holding a gun
Lol
@@laggory breaking: white man in ohio kills another man because he said that madden 08 is bad
Am I the only one who was listening for a gunshot until the end of the video because of that?
Tbh, about the savepoints:
Back in the day games were made way more difficult to make then seem longer, so a bunch of them were just unfair. In those cases i feel like saves work just fine
Especially for NES games. There’s a reason the phrase “Nintendo hard” exists.
Some people hold that unfairness as quality as in hard good easy bad, when really there a more ways to make a game hard without being unfair or giving one checkpoint every 20 level
@@dekumidoriya2928 Games like Dark Souls are unforgiving, but once you know the boss’ attack patterns, it becomes simple.
@@liammcnicholas918 does the souls game limit your checkpoints between bosses or levels ? Genuine question i never played those games before
@@dekumidoriya2928 soulslikes usually use a bonfire system, where once you use one you will spawn there when you die and you can teleport between them. theres also always bonfires before bosses.
“This time next week, you’ll find me in a fucking ditch.”
Knowing Scott, he’ll follow through with that joke for continuity’s sake.
Scott "Addicted to crack and living in a ditch" Wozniak
@@redthree603 he’s gonna start the episode in a ditch passed out or something lol
tfw you realize next week is Halloween
emulation is terrible. Now excuse me while I go buy paper mario: the thousand year door for $125 from my local video game store which is more than double the price from when it released 18 years ago and where none of the proceeds will go to nintendo.
I'm convinced its scalpers who are against emulation
And it probably doesn't work.
@@Weensx is Nintendo a scalper?jury's still out on that rn
@@missingtexturez Given the whole mario 3D all stars thing. I'm going to go with..Yes.
@@Mrgrimm150 yeah
The main thing I hate about company’s going after emulation is the fact that one day every cart will stop working, every disc will rot no matter how well you take care of it, these things happen due to time, online files never rot, undeniably emulation is the best way to preserve games
That is until the solar storm hits earth and wipes out electricity in the entire world, including the internet.
@@hassansyed4135 Don’t worry we will send a copy of Super Mario Bros 2 out of our solar system just for save keeping before that happens
@@KatZEdition Just keep a usb with sonic 1 in a black hole for safe keeping
That is exactly the point. Nintendo wants their fans to do not have control in what they can or cannot play. It is so convenient to sell the same 30-year-old game for the 20th time in the same decade to the same target audience for an absurd price. With emulation, fans don't need Nintendo's re-releases and collections. Furthermore, Nintendo finds its own trademark divine, and seeing it for free online is so painful for them. "Why does Nintendo don’t just release Virtual Console on Switch? They would win even more money!" Simple. With Virtual Console, fans would play whatever they want for a fair price. Everything Nintendo doesn't want. Emulation makes old Nintendo's games old, and their stupid re-releases give them a bit of youth. Nintendo want you to love their retro games and still not be able to buy and play them, so when they release Super Mario 3D All-Stars, for example, you'll buy immediately.
@@hassansyed4135 yeah that's not gonna happen
Another feature of emulation is the ability to make rom hacks and fan games. GBA Pokémon in particular has a ton of rom hacks ranging from catch ‘em alls, adding mons and mechanics from newer games, extra hard difficulty, and even completely new games with new stories. Radical Red is one of my favorite Pokémon experiences and I think stuff like that deserves a place in gaming
"It's all about control." Yup, that's Nintendo as a whole.
Literally 1984
@@WoddCar Unless Nintendo has control over the Japanese and United States governments, hardly.
Yes
@@nintyfan1991 I think he was doin a goof
@@lol-ih1tl That's pretty hard to believe when their strongest market is the US
Pirating a video game is (in most English speaking countries) is illegal, but it's not a criminal offence. That means that the company has to actually contact you and sue you personally, which is really not worth the effort for targeting the people downloading, only the people supplying the copies on a mass scale.
You think one guy sued an elderly woman who put a listing for a CD for $10 all she did was sell her husbands old stuff but since it was an illegal boot she was fined $10,000
This was German btw
@@jmurray1110 Imma be honest, that sounds like an extremely specific example that seems more like an exception than anything.
@@DarkeningDemise not if you take the proper precautions
I lived since my pre-teens until early adulthood in the US (coming from South America) and I emulated games a lot because I liked emulation and seeing what it was capable of, and because I mostly emulated games that at that time were not available anywhere else, and I was not going to get an old tv just to play some games, it was mostly games I had missed (knew about them but didn't have the opportunity to play them) in my childhood in the 90's and so I emulated them, nothing ever happened.
I otherwise owned all the current consoles (at the time) of the 6th and 7th gen and paid for every single game and played online. The same thing with PC gaming for the last almost 15 years, I buy everything legally, specially since Steam and other stores started having regional pricing (I stil paid the normal 50-60 usd for a game from time to time, but now some cost 20-30 or less sometimes due to regional pricing).
@@jmurray1110 Yeah, that was a bootleg CD, of course, it would be taken seriously. You don't sell this stuff, even if you didn't make it. Unless you're as big as Amazon, I guess.
"I'm too lazy and stupid to break the law"
This feels too real Scott
Read more...
@@GaJ42 Reading is hard
It really is. Because the only people that are ever actually contained by laws are exactly that - either too lazy to put up resistance to them, or too stupid to get around them . . . though you can also substitute apathy for laziness I guess.
If you're a smart criminal, you can skirt the law for years upon years beyond it ever mattering (and the smartest end up in politics and legalize their actions even), and if you're motivated to break a law it's a guarantee you'll be able to do so with enough effort.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe dude nobody is looking for you by pirating Mario 64... The laziness comes more from the fact emulation have far more steps than people like to admit, also because you are downloading illegal software, it also tends to have malicious software, and my god if you have a expensive PC you won't take that risk.
@@GaJ42 read book get smart phone bad
The illegal part of piracy is uploading roms/games online. Downloading a rom is not illegal (depending on were you live), thats why if you look up anti piracy screens (real one's) it usually say something like "Report this copy" or "To report this copy call [Phone number]" or some times "We hope that you buy a real [Console] and legit games"
Downloading is not illegal. uploading is.
not games on the market though, it's illegal to not buy the game, however the games not in the market is fine
17 U.S. Code § 501 - Infringement of copyright
(a) Anyone who violates any of the exclusive rights of the copyright owner as provided by sections 106 through 122 or of the author as provided in section 106A(a), or who imports copies or phonorecords into the United States in violation of section 602, is an infringer of the copyright or right of the author, as the case may be.
You're an idiot. It's most certainly illegal.
Emulation is so important for preserving gaming history. When stores like the PSP close and a whole library of digital only games are lost to time for one reason or another - emulation can help keep those games alive. The same can be applied to retro gaming as a whole. it is SO important to keep gaming history alive and its a crying shame companies either don't care to preserve their games themselves or actively stop it like Nintendo.
I almost always suggest trying to go through "legal" means to play games but when its not possible or just not a feasible option due to a variety of reasons - emulation should be welcomed into gaming with open arms.
It is welcome, the ones against it are corporations (nintendo included) that get no money out of it, and since they only like money they fight against it
If it wasn't for emulation, I would never get to play some of the best games and classics on PSP or GBA, now they are some of my favourite games and I can have a sentiment for something I would normally miss.
I understand the legality issues with emulation but... If you just want to play a 20 year old game that is so hard to buy anywhere that it sometimes feels even more illegal than actual piracy, it's hard to argue against the emulation and, as you said, how it allows old classics to stay alive and be available for younger generations.
PSP doesn't even have batteries made for it anymore and most of the original batteries are swollen and dangerous. Who wants to play a PSP plugged into a wall? Not certainly as it was intended.
@@intheshadowofathousandbean563 GBA games are so good they make fantastic emulated and mobile games, simple controls with strong gameplay.
@@cattysplat Exactly, I don't want to risk my psp exploding on me if I want to play some Killzone liberation. Emulation needs to be embraced
Finally a TH-cam that talks about emulation and doesn’t hide behind the “here’s my physical copy of the game I burned it onto my pc this is legal so can’t get me” no Scott straight up tells it like it is. Legit no one has gone to jail for downloading roms
+JoeCartoon56
Yet...
Been 22 years of downloading roms and movies... I think we're okay.
And no one ever will
Distributors on the other hand....
Ofc they literally make money out of stuff they didn't make so it don't have any particular sympathy
@@DimT670 Plenty of people make money out of stuff they didn't make. Bobby Kotick didn't make Diablo 1, 2, or 3. Starcraft 1 or 2. Warcraft 1, 2, 3, or the World of. Any of the Call of Duty games. And many, many more. He makes millions of dollars EVERY YEAR. All while firing the people that actually DID make those games. Where do we draw the line on who gets to make money on something they had nothing to do with?
Limewire. We all thought the same until they took down that random Mom to make an example out of her
"If you don't want people to pirate your game, then make them available on your modern systems!"
Damn right Scott. Damn right.
@The Lost Wooly We don't buy emulated games. We download them. I already bought the game years ago, and the company that decided I don't get to experience it anymore when my decades old hardware failed can just deal with it
@The Lost Wooly i know thats not how you think but god that mindset is so stupid
@The Lost Wooly I just have trouble understanding the whole "might" want to rerelease. Rereleasing should be a no brainer. It costs nothing aside from maybe figuring out how to emulate it on the specific hardware like the Switch and then putting the game file up on the eshop. There's no retailer fees or risks if the game doesn't sell well, there's only money to be lost by not doing.
Heck, if they don't want to build the emulator, then let us continue using the private ones and sell the game files behind a legal download link. Even if it doesn't help with the convenience and people could just copy and share the files, it's already being done anyway! At least then download links would be trustworthy and get rid of the main justification for pirating of having no alternatives to play the game.
@@jacobg8640 Or just license an emulator that some guy made in his basement?
0% effort, 100% profit!
@@jacobg8640 The whole "figuring out how to emulate" is bigger than you think. Hiring teams to do that takes time and money and can take an extreme amount of work. And if its a port? even worse
Without emulation there's a ton of game franchises I wouldn't have been a huge fan of.
If Nintendo won’t give me mother 3 I’ll just take it myself
Chip and Disc rot is a reality. Preservation of a lot of these older titles heavily relies on emulation. Well said.
It's a great point but Nintendrones will say otherwise
I was like "Who TF is Chip and Disc?"
@@Tool0GT92 Russian Disney
That's why I started backing up my older DVDs. Most of them still work flawlessly, though.
Doesn't make it right.
Preservation is my eternal middle finger towards anti-piracy stances. It's clear from lack of legal support that no company is invested enough in their own history to attempt true, full scope preservation. The best they can do is rereleases of the hits everybody knows or batches of backwards compatible titles baked irregularly. If Nintendo in particular have a problem with retro emulation then they have my permission to do better. For that, we're still waiting.
A lot of companies are erasing their history because it makes their modern stuff look bad.
The real crime is that I can't like this twice.
I don't understand why theft and vandalism are seen as morally grey these days. Companies don't want true full-scope preservation because then everyone will be so busy playing old games that they won't buy new games that companies can charge more for.
Everytime emulation or video game piracy comes up I think of Ross Scott's videos he's made on the preservation of games and how, many studios don't allow this and or care for older titles they've made, and going forward many games are a "service" per say so when the game developer pulls the plug on an always online game your screwed out of being able to play it. I'm all for preservation, I believe we should be allowed to play older titles that we may not be able to play because of console or cartidge availbility, or price.
well even then we are seeing with nso expansion pack they do the bare minimum and up charge for a sub par service.
Scott finally learning about emulation.
Yep
I have a feeling the ending statement was more accurate, and the beginning was so that he wouldn't lose his Nintendo Creators Program licence.
in his defense, he's a Mac user
He did use it for cod on ds
@@d_the_great The Nintendo Creators Program shut down in late 2018, I think he's gonna be fine.
Fan games make emulation a must for me. Radical red and team rocket edition made me feel like I did on yellow all those years ago on my gbc
While still think radical red is too hard to ever be a real game, I really wish the real games would take notes from it. Along with making the game harder, npcs used a lot of different strategies and items, forcing you to do the same. Games like RR prove Pokémon’s battle system is much more complex and interesting than you’ll ever see in the main game
@@Blastronaute same goes for the "newer super mario bros" series, which COMPLETELY overhauls those games. Not 1 level is the same, and in some cases the game feels 100% diffrent. Its not like the minecraft "create" mod, which ADDS things that change the game a lot, but you can still ignore or forget.
Gonna be honest, of all things for Scott to cover, I never would've expected Emulation of all things.
Really awesome video Scott!! Good points!! Now, if you excuse me, I'm going to jail for using Project64 9 years ago.
Yep
9 years ago!? That's rookie numbers! Try yesterday!
@@Cinibonswirl26 try *2 minutes ago*
Eh odds are this is related to the Kotaku debacle of saying'' just pirate and emulated Metroid dread'' basically riding on the coattails of that news wave that happened .. not that I blame the guy but the timing is way too much a matching scenario as he has done similar on older vids to maximize views and such
Edited for a typo
@@lloydlandrum3040 Small correction here. All the kotaku article said was that people are emulating Metroid Dread, and at higher resolutions than Switch. It never stated any specific stance for or against emulating it. Just that it's happening.
"Some consider it cheating, I consider it an open relationship"
best sentence of 2021 right here
Yep.
I only got the joke after reading it...
Yep
Who would've thought we would revisiting this line in 2022 lol
@@kirin1230 LMAOOOO SAME :,)
you can completely legally dump your own roms, without downloading them. you just gotta buy an adapter to connect cartridges and such to your computer. this was legally proven in the Bleem! vs Sony case
I was just about to say this. Nothing illegal in Preserving games you Backed up yourself. so long as you don't Sell it or Distribute it, it's fine
Theoretically, a downloaded copy should be identical to a dumped one, so try proving that I didn't lose my dumping device lol
More modern systems like the Wii also allow you to dump with homebrew software
Which means you can freely download them because who the fuck can actually prove that dump is yours or one you downloaded because the file is going to appear the exact same either way.
And they know this, if it wasn't the case they would bring people who download these games to court just to prove a point and deter people.
Researching this case is sad. Sony sued them so much until they couldn't afford the fees and they were forced to shut down.
Save states are honestly a blessing in emulations. It saves you the time and pain from going all the way from your last checkpoint to the point you died last time and having to repeat multiple times.
"..everyone has their own rules for Monopoly.." is a sentence we can all relate and unite to
even the government
Yet the Free Parking house rule was so damn common....the first time I played without it was the first time the game seemed semi "fair"
I've always played that you get tax dollars for landing on free parking. Idk if that's the correct way or not but looking back it definitely makes the game take longer than it should
@@dont-feed-ben4833 its not. The default rules are faster then all the house rules people have. In fact some house rules exist to speed the game up because of some other house rule slowing things down.
I have one rule for Monopoly: Don't ask me to play. I don't care how much you beg, I will not play it.
Pirating and emulation are almost always issues of CONVENIENCE.
If a decent port is available from the original publisher for a decent price, the majority will choose that.
If a game requires old hardware, is incredibly rare or grossly overpriced, people will emulate.
As much as Nintendo and other companies complain about emulation, it is really quite a simple (and profitable) fix for them to just perserve their old titles.
When they do rereleased older games, all I see is people complaining about having to pay for them and go straight back to pirating so why should Nintendo bother?
@@crazyfire9470 this
@@crazyfire9470 Exactly. Nintendo Swith Online is 20 dollars a year for a bunch of old games, and people still bitch about "I don't really own them". And with the virtual console, the same stuff, complaining about paying for old games. So a bunch of people only want shit for free. Like fans that pirate tv shows and then complain when they got cancelled because they didn't made any money.
@@crazyfire9470 From what I've seen that's mostly with games that they have effectively already bought. Like,, 'Why do I have to buy this again on the Nintendo e-shop, I already bought it on the Wii shop!' I hardly ever see people who complain about having to pay for games that are released for emulation for the first time officially (like,, No one complained about having to buy Earthbound once it was finally added to the e-shop, just moreso confusion over why it cost twice as much as other snes games)
@@crazyfire9470 You see that because the price points are insane. Project64 was able to emulate Majora's Mask in 2011 perfectly, and that's available for free. The game is 21 years old.
Charging $50 or $30 or even $19.99 for the convenience of playing it on a modern console is absurd. If Nintendo can get MM to work as easily on Switch as I can on PC, then it's highway robbery to charge $20 for that. Rerelease emulated ports that have been long available elsewhere should be dirt cheap.
I'd pay $5, maybe $10 for an emulated port of N64 MM on Switch, but it really should be like $3.99. Any more than that just isn't reasonable for the work involved.
"so what are you in for?"
"I murdered and entire family, and you?"
"I was emulating Tetris NES on my phone"
Isn’t Tetris already free on mobile?
@@kongism Sounds like something a cop would say.
@@kongism not the good versions
Deserves prison. Gameboy version ftw!
"I'm playing Wordle Ds on my watch"
Sometimes its not "I want to use emulation" more than it is "I have to use emulators, because 400 dollars for Earthbound is horseshit"
It's on the Switch though.
"ItS oN sWiTcH tHoUgH!" Yeah, a system that hasn't been out my whole 30 years of life, imagine that. Almost like I downloaded the ROM quite the number of years ago or something. Imagine that, people doing things a long time ago. Weird, I know!
Also, @bats thats still using an emulator.. so...
@@xamislimelight8965 Ok.
@@xamislimelight8965 I understand.
"Some consider this cheating; I consider this an open relationship."
Best quote I've heard all week.
As much as I want to support game developers, piracy sometimes is the only way to get your hands on a certain game. I have a psp, and with the online store dead and game disks being impossible to find in my country nowadays, roms are god's blessing. It hardly has anything to do with money, if a game's accessible, I'll be more than happy to pay for it.
what country do you live in?
@@chl_ca Russia.
In the U.S, PSP games can still be bought on PS3 and Vita.
Well you pay the internet to download the roma
@@dashie_pink_slushie 🤨
This man has turned moving into a sketch I love him so much
Ooooooohhhhh that explains a lot.
Wait he did actually get himself a bigger place for his stuff? Cool.
Get ready for another fire
New new location McGee, coming to an Ohio near you
@@30watermelon. or something crazier
If it weren’t for emulation I would have never gotten into the rhythm heaven series.
Sir, you're under arrest
I tried tengogku with one and it was way too hard but that might be my only way of playing it sadly.
Omg! Same here!
@@KosherPorky no ones gonna get him arrested, thats one of the myths thats holding back emulation
@@UrainumMuncherskill issue lmao
Interestingly some lawyers have brought up the legality of downloading game copies you already own. It basically boiled down to this: If you already own a copy of a game, you are legally allowed to make a backup as it counts as software but you have to do it off of your own copy yourself... Maybe. See, they also stated that whether or not downloading it or making it yourself matters when the end result is the same is up in the air as it was never tested by courts. (See the video: "Smash Bros. "Big House" Online Tourney Cancelled by Nintendo")
Something tells me game companies don't want to test it either because the last time something like that happened, the one who tried it lost hilariously and they're scared of it. "Bleem!" is what I'm referring to and courts ruled that the emulation was legal and their use of screenshots to market it is fair use. Now... Some people think that the legal fees were what put Bleem! out of business which is what Sony was going for to begin with. But that's debatable because it ended up setting a precedent for the future of emulation, opening up more than just Bleem! to get a foothold (which it did), but no one knows for sure why Bleem! went under. They might've made more stuff than they sold thinking that it would catch on more than it did for all we know. Plus Sony would never have known what their funds were and they could've lost a ton to Bleem! and inadvertently funded their operations.
Even when Nintendo took ROMUniverse to court and "won", they didn't exactly "win". See the video "Nintendo Wins Empty Victory over ROMUniverse (Nintendo v. Storman)". So the more things that come out about emulation and ROMs, the more it looks like smoke and mirrors by companies just to scare people so they can generate sales even though people who weren't going to pay still wouldn't. Sort of like how they handled copyright on TH-cam where they would claim basically anything even though lawyers said that they couldn't. Primarily companies do so to intimidate people into thinking they had the right to and to make money they weren't entitled to. When people pushed back, the companies had no choice but to back down as their public relations were so negatively perceived between them being found to have been illegally abusing the copyright system and going after their most devoted fans that it became a nightmare for them.
....Needless to say I find this topic incredibly interesting which is why I looked into all of this, lol! I think it's because it's such a gray area that there's a lot of possibilities. Overall, I too would agree that however people play games isn't a big deal, nor is emulation. Companies aren't really "losing" sales that never could have existed to begin with and they are certain;y not going under anytime soon. Developers are already paid during game development anyway as well. Anything after that point is just funds that go to the company and not the developers that actually worked hard on the games to begin with. Thus companies are really the one double dipping and trying to make people feel bad. Heck... more than double in a lot of cases. But then there are cases like you mentioned where they complain about games being emulated they aren't even selling anymore like Melee. I've seen people actually make arguments that they don't have to make their entire library available and that people aren't entitled to have access to them at any time. But if companies don't care enough to keep them available, then why would people care if others emulate them?
Oh hi there, PkGam!
If so then I don't get why people bitch so hard about Nintendo in this point, they can't stop piracy, so why is there even a discussion? Like that Mario trilogy controversy, or is it people nothing better to do than whining about corporations?
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr Because Nintendo still works really hard to make it impossible. Emuparadise was a safe website that made it really easy to get old roms. I don't have the super expensive hardware to rip my old game carts, so this was an amazing thing to have. Nintendo sued them into irrelevancy, and now they don't host roms anymore. Now you have to go back to the sketchy sites again, or sources I won't mention here for fear of Nintendo shutting them down too. These giant corporations deserve all the criticism. And you dare to call it "whining" when we point out their abusive behavior?
@@computerkid1416 Hiya! :D
@@CrispyChicken38 Well said!
The fact he talked about emulation instead of the Nintendo Online Expansion like everyone else is is the absolute funniest thing ever to me. So perfect, this is why this is my favorite channel
N64 GOT CANCELLED 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Cause Scott doesn’t ride on trends
He doesn't do trends. It's why he never got sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends, and just made an April Fools video
@@LunadeMusic I know, I love that about his channel. The timing of the video was just so perfect
That's what we would call "low hanging fruit" and Scott never grabs that kinda fruit cause it's too damn easy to do so.
Big mood. Sometimes emulation is the only way to preserve and play old games that companies don't make available. I'm not gonna blame someone for not wanting to spend a ton of cash hunting down old hardware and software when the option is available. And big mood on letting people play the way they want. As a Fire Emblem fan it's so annoying to hear snobs shit on casual mode even though they can just choose classic mode. If the harder option is there then let people enjoy the accessibility of easy features.
Agreed. Emulation let me play old PSP games on PC that I couldn't play long long ago because my poor thing broke at the time, but now I can literally replay them with a dang ps4 controller, it's a beautiful thing.
the snobs are just salty they traded fire emblem radiant dawn for call of duty in 2010 and can’t afford to buy it on ebay
@@Vanquish96X And we both know that they're save scumming.
I played Pokemon platnium a ton in my childhood. That save file I have for the DS had some of my best memories of primary school. Do I like the decisions that I made while playing? No. Do I want to replay the game now that I'm an adult so I can appreciate the game more? Yes. Do I want to delete that save which again, contains fond memories of childhood? Also no. Therefore, emulation
@@iiiivvvv9986 emulation also helps content circunventing through mindboggling decisions from the devs, like Game Freak insisting to only have 1 save file per Pokemon cartridge.
Because as much as I want to play Black/White in Hard Mode, I really don't wanna lose my previous save file to do that
"Welcome to the gang kid, we've got stealin steve, murderin mike, and crimes johnson"
"What did crimes johnson do?"
"He emulated Wario's Woods on PC"
"some people consider this cheating- I consider it an open relationship" is a perfect way to describe save states
omg, sonic jam! it’s the game you’re known for owning :O
JUST LIKE SONIC 2 WITH A LINE!!!
iconic
@@loganroofpedoexposer4952 this isn't even a markiplier video, also wtf
Not anymore classic robbery stuff
I thought it was Flingsmash for the Wii or whatever it's called
Prisoner: “I robbed a bank, what are you in for?”
“I pirated TF2 because I didn’t want to pay for it”
@UntitledGamer TF2 was 30 dollars
maybe he means titanfall 2?
no cheater's lament for you >:(
@UntitledGamer That just makes it more impressive.
Silence BOT
"it wasn't meant to be played on a keyboard!!!!!"
Then i'll buy a third party controller.
I live in a country where Nintendo doesn't officially sell its consoles or games. So emulation is the only hope i ever have to play their games
Same :(
Keeping fighting the good fight, brother!
Same
dude, im from a country where it was so easy to get a pirate copy of a game that i never saw a official psx disk until 12 and a official gba cadtridge until 16 XD
Emulation is a human right
Keep at it, brother
“Why not the L button”
Scott sure does love toying with his fans lol
Funny button
@Logan Roof are you high? That made no sense lol
@@Z_Viper08 it’s just a kid that doesn’t understand wtf he’s doing. he’s just following a trend trying to be cool. all we can do is pray lmao
@Logan RoofDon't do this with your face and full name on your account
@Logan Roof r/hadastroke
Really liked the second half, I'm glad someone is standing up for game preservation for once. It's really nice to see.
Yeah, thats kinda a case where I think that the morality of preserving history outweighs any of the legality issues, as some games are only kept alive by emulator. Especially as it is so common that companies go defunct or ignore the game entirely. Some games are so extremely rare that the common folk can onlt access it throughe emulation.
Then theres the case of localisation, as theres entire catalogues people in the west have no official translation to, the most famous example being Mother 3 fans are still waiting for an official english release.
Nitro Rad often shares his thoughts on game preservation. Check him out ;)
Big shout out to the random dude in college who put left 4 dead and star fox 64 out of my Macbook pro in 2008. You gave me many hours of joy And I can never thank you enough.
Scott here makes a similar point to another famous Scott, of the Ross variety, that games shouldn't die. I agree with this beyond wholeheartedly. If a game company is done with a game, letting it just die is wrong. I am not a PC emulator user myself, but the fact that there are a lot of old games that still live because of emulators makes me happy. The work and manhours that go into any given game is insane, and a company just letting that work die because they are bored of selling it is awful. I'm glad to see the more famous Scott take a positive stance for game preservation, even though there is still a long way to go for more games to be safe.
At Least They Just Port Those Games To modern consoles But they still feel the same just a normal game but with no deference other that you are Playing on a different Controller
@@tree561 Most old games aren't ported. Just cuz a lot of em are, doesn't mean a lot of em are. And most ports are pretty shitty or trade a feature out for another, have janky controls etc.
By now, everything released until 1st january 2001 should be open source and/or public domain, including all assets, blueprints and schematics.
Sega is like the complete opposite to Nintendo when it comes to emulation. I recently got some games from the Sega Mega Drive and Genesis Classics on Steam and they literally provide you with the roms. You can either just play them in their emulator or if you feel like it just pop them in your favorite emulator and have fun that way. This approach where you just spend a buck or two to play old games, which you then actually own almost completely negates the need to pirate stuff.
To play devil's advocate. Nintendo still makes their own hardware, unlike Sega, so they have an interest to keep their games exclusives.
@@S.I.L. but do they still make gamecubes, wiis or snes's? I don't think so, so bundling some more obscure roms that they wouldn't of put on nso into a collection won't negatively impact them at all.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn why you guys act like the only games you download are the ones Nintendo don't sell anymore? We all know is not true, I'm ok with people emulating, the only thing is annoying is this high ground you take where there is an evil corporation, we aren't in an illumination movie, this kind of childish behavior is why gamer is an insult nowadays.
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr Get off your high horse. Most emulation these days extends maybe to the GameCube. PS2 and above requires beefy hardware. Sure, some modern games have been successfully emulated, but to assume people haven't paid for those games because they are emulating them is asinine as well. I personally have a little handheld that can emulate everything up to PS1, and I loaded all my old games on it, and you can sit and spin for pretending like I must be stealing modern games for doing so. You take the straw men companies line up and prop them up for those companies, when people just want to play games that aren't easily available anymore.
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr cus thats all emulation has been until they catched up with the switch lol stop ignoring the facts
Emulation is one of the greatest things to ever happen in video game history. There, I said it, cry about it, I didn't buy a SNES game for $900.
Preservation, ROM HACKS, FAN GAMES, breaking apart games to deconstruct their code, giving generations a way to play games from before their time or ones they missed out on.
+1. And rom hacks and fan translations are a world on their own.
I'd kill to see research done on how many top notch gaming coders working for big industries started off messing around with old game code and emulators. How much these businesses trying to strike down emulation owe to it for creating some of their best minds.
I may prefer original hardware for many games, but emulation is definitely the better way to experience them, especially in the long term. Emulation is an amazing tool, because not everyone is going to be as stupid as me and go out of their way to own 28+ game consoles and hundreds of games.
When Nintendo released the NES mini, instead of doing any work whatsoever porting games, they stole the work of the community that extracted the roms from the cartridges and that wrote the emulators and used that instead. They literally went to piracy sites, downloaded the pirated games and put them on their console. They actually included certain files that unmistakably were written by the emulation community.
Okay but "you couldn't pause the movie in the theater" is the PERFECT analogy for save states
Not really.
@@DrUnfunny Explain please.
@@bombyman84 Well as Scott says, it's not fair to compare video games to movies, besides, some games COME with a form of save stating included
@@DrUnfunny Old video games didn't have saving, so you'd have to replay a game ALL the way from the start
@@liammcnicholas918 I fail to see how this fact shames save-state users, if anything I'd rather download a rom of Mario 3 for saving than make $60 deal with Nintendo to get official save states.
Fun fact: although it is technically illegal, no one has ever gone to jail for downloading a rom of a game, only for putting it up there.
The most that can happen is that your ISP sends a letter to scare you (usually only happens if they catch you on a torrent).
Unless you live in Germany, which in that case you get executed without a trial.
@@no_4259 as a german, this happed to me. For Downloading fucking Pokémon yellow
@@marcovossenkaul8921 that's brutal, glad to see you came back to life tho
Well, SoujaBoy was pretty close to jail for selling Nintendo games on his chinesee console 🤔
Is there any news for smash bros on my souja boy console btw?
To be fair you can get a hefty fine but jail time is almost impossible even if you tried
"I own this game!!"
"I own this console!!"
Nintendo: *Well, yes, but actually no.*
"I own this phone!!"
Apple: *Well, yes, but actually no.*
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When people misquote something: *Good guess, but actually no.*
@@kurobutt when people copy and paste the same template for 5 years straight
Most people don't realize that they merely purchase a license to play a game when they "buy a copy" of them.
Read the terms & conditions. You might find something interesting, fellas.
@@austinfondren5053 yup. People don't realise that even when they buy a physical game. They *still* don't own the game. They own the plastic that hosts the game (wether it's a disc, card or cartridge) but the game is still 100% owned by the copyright holders. Buy a game is actually, as you said, paying for a lisence to play it. The advantage of getting a physical copy however is that the license is transferrable.
Pirating video games isn't stealing, because you're not physically taking something away from someone. Nobody loses anything.
But doesn’t it like discourage people from buying directly from the company?
@@jakejohnson6954 that only really applies to games still being sold by the company
@@PeakEditsFireChungus yeah but i was referring to when something is still being sold. Someone from a different video (not sure if the story is. entirely true) talked about wanting to get some racing game on pc but didn’t have the money so instead got a pirated version of the game and thats when the ip sent him a letter about it
@@jakejohnson6954 I'm guessing that the racing game they pirated was one that is still sold online
@@PeakEditsFireChungus yeah it was. Can’t remember what he said it was called though but he did mention it was still available.
Great point about the original games "feeling right" on the original consoles, i've never considered before that the type of controller you used could change the experience you have with a specific game
I’m playing Super Metroid rn on switch and Metroid Fusion on a PC emulator using a PLAYSTATION CONTROLLER. it does feel weird and i never played either games on the original hardware
It's true for some games, I tried playing Jet Set Radio through the ps3 HD version and it felt pretty weird and I was messing up alot of tricks, so I just chalked it up to the game being old and put it down. Few years later when I started collecting, I got my hands on a DC and Jet Set and it was a night and day difference in the controls.
Yes I use everdrives cause it feels better, tho I use a ps4 controller for pcsx2 and it's close enough
first world problems
this is especially true with games like NiGHTS into Dreams on Sega Saturn, where the game was designed concurrently with a specific controller, there's a ton of little nuances tht future ports and modern thumbsticks just don't capture quite as well
Pirating free games is like:
"I stole a balloon!"
"Yeah...on free balloon day"
LOL
Why would you do that?
@@davidzea-smith1417 P.T for ps4
Bruh I remember that part from spongebob
If it's from a generation that's extremely rare or expensive I get why people do it but modern games that are cheap and readily available to buy there no excuse for piracy imo.
"Save states are cheating, play the game as intended" I've heard from some people.
Meanwhile, in reality: Games were made harder in the US often to combat rentals and saves were not included in games because that made the cartridge more expensive.
You think Battle Toads is a masochistic adventure? Boot up the Japanese version where it doesn't have friendly fire and gives more lives.
Boy Resident Evil 1 & 2 could be hard- if you play the launch version in the US where they removed the lock on aiming and lowered the number of ink ribbons you got.
Play Castlevania or Contra then play the JP version and realize just how boned we got.
Emulation is great.
Pirating games you don't own or can actually easily get that still supports the company? Is a great way to help make sure a series you love never gets support again.
IDK how many great games are not being sold at all or not on modern platforms but goodness the list is long.
Edit:
Okay y'all need to calm down about pirating or actually read what I said. I never said piracy is 100% bad. If the company hasn't sold it for years? Yeah, go ahead and download Road Rash 3 on the Genesis, no one cares. You got DOOM 3 on CD but no disc drive- I'm sure Bethesda can deal with a download. Want to play Metroid Prime without CRT cables and you don't want to dig it out of the closet? Well Nintendo should have made a collection for Switch anyway.
Photoshop is a bloated pile of garbage that's priced for corporations, not people, so go nuts- but also there's better software for cheaper so I would say don't bother pirating it, get something good.
But if you're gonna pirate some indie developer's game?
Yeah, that's not cool.
On the other hand, you had games like Mega Man 2 or Mario Bros 3 made easier for the US (or hell, the infamous case of Final Fantasy 4 getting turned into full-on baby mode). It's not quite a one-way street.
@@ExeloMinish That is true that some games were made easier- I would say most were made harder.
But that's not my point...
My point is they were made...Rather, the ones that WERE made harder here & we didn't get saves because that was more money they'd have to spend.
So I argue that save states are either a counter to companies making our games harder for reasons that weren't our fault or countering the cheapness of not having a save battery in the cart.
Agreed.
you have it backwards tho, Japanese versions are way harder, yeah there may be some exceptions but its always the other way around,
@@CinnamonOwO
Not true, at all.
Just about every Konami game was made harder, Castlevania, Contra, from the NES to SNES/Genesis and so on.
Contra Hard Corps was made so much harder it's unreal. You had 3 hits in JP vs 1 in the US, you get more continues and lives.
The Castlevania games you took more damage and they changed enemy placement to be more hard
Battle Toads Legendary difficulty is unique to the US, it's vastly easier in JP.
Streets of Rage 3's hard mode is Japan's Mania mode in difficulty. Every enemy hits like a truck and moves faster.
Resident Evil 1 & 2 removed the lock on, you took more damage & got less ink ribbons. You know that super hard mode you unlocked in remake where the chests weren't linked? That was how they were going to bring it to the US. The later versions of RE1 & 2 added the lock on back in.
Devil May Cry 3's difficulties were SO skewed in the US on it's OG release. Every mode was one difficulty harder than the JP version- meaning we got an even harder mode.
Metroid NES had lost it's 3 save files that the Famicom Disk version had leaving us to start with 32hp and almost no missiles.
Ranger X had it's easiest mode removed, literally removing a tutorial level unique to it.
I've heard some JRPGs lessened the money/exp earned to increase the grind- again all this crap was done to combat rentals since Nintendo was a big hand in making them illegal in Japan (without permission from the publisher).
Those are the ones that I know off hand, there's way more than that I've seen over the years. So if there's more games that got made easier, that's news to me. I know there's a bunch but most of the big, popular ones seem to be way harder.
Nintendo: "but we cant make money on teh emulation!"
Me, an intellectual: "you're not making money on third hand sales either.."
A counter point to "save states are cheating": many earlier games had codes to jump to later levels to get around the lack of writable storage.
Suck it, retro gaming purists! I'll use save states on Paper Mario all day!
A very valid argument, at least in most cases. There is the argument of flexibility, however. Codes and any kind of built-in saving mechanics place you at specific points in the game, usually the very start of a level with whatever default powerups you may have at the beginning of the game. Save states allow you to save wherever, whenever, which can make any failure have no punishment at all, therefore removing any challenge and/or tension. It ultimately depends on the game and how often the save states are used, at least in my opinion.
@@329link Fair point; however, I typically only use save states when I
a.) need to exit the game quickly without enough time to find a save station, or
b.) am done playing and want to save before I use up all my power-ups.
Of course, that refers to games that you *could* save in, I often use save states in Ristar, for example, to save after I beat a level or a world. Since you can't save in the original game, this makes progression SO much easier.
I understand if you don't use save states, just don't force *me* to conform to *your* beliefs.
This also applies to religion and politics.
@@MmmMmph1968 That was kinda my point. I use save states the same way. The issue comes in with people who can't help it, and end up abusing them horribly and ruining their experience by doing so. But ultimately, the problems that *can* arise aren't big enough to warrant the removal of save states, I was mostly just playing devil's advocate because I enjoy discussing these kinds of topics.
I also agree with your last point.
@@329link Honestly, the problem with save states comes down to self-restraint, or, to be more precise, the lack of it.
To me there is such a thing as piracy and there is such a thing as "neither the hardware to play it on nor the game itself are avaliable to buy below 1000 dollars collectors price"
Bonus points if the reason it's so expensive is because you also need to buy a foreign console because the game NEVER FUCKING CAME OUT in your country thereby proving that the developers never wanted my money in the first place.
@@yomilemondragon1721 one of my online friends still to this day hasn't played Pokémon red because the Gameboy was never released in his country.
@@yomilemondragon1721 mother3 moment
Both of them are piracy, the point is that piracy is not inherently immoral.
When Scott was talking about how annoying emulation is to actually set up properly I couldn't help but think of Retroarch and how much of a pain in the ass it can be to get working properly.
Yeah. RetroArch has a steep leaning curve for beginners. It can take a long time to get stuff configured right. Took me a long time to get the hang of it. It's worth the trouble I think.
@@MetalJody1990 Oh absolutely now that I know how to use it it's great. Still sometimes breaks and I have no idea why though...
Once you realize you need to download cores and scan directories for roms, it's fairly simple, albeit that's with an xbone controller.
I didn't find it too difficult at all. Huh
That is my worst hate, retroarch, I even avoid it and use other alternatives out there that are far more easier to use than retroarch 😫😫
I'm glad Scott was so real about this. I really have a problem w other gaming content creators that tell you how to hack a system but not how to load roms on it or to only load roms of games you already own. Scott laid it down perfect. Nobody cares
“Emulation is like telling a teenager that grape juice is wine.”
Me who went to Christian school: Oh.
Yeah, unless you went to a catholic one like I did, the wine they used wasn't really wine perse
Cringe, wine is important
As someone who emulated games in their pc since i was like 4 (third world country, that's how it is round here) you definitely learn how to enjoy the games what they are, even when played in the "wrong" context
I got a wii and N3DSXL
Which are cheap decades later
I homebrewed the shit out of it
Being in a third world country
I just had to hack it and bomb a lot of emus on it
You couldn't have worded it better. I live in Brazil, this place is a poor 3rd world shithole filled with poor people (myself included). Most nintendo consoles and games literally cost more than a car here, nobody has the money to buy original hardware. Emulation and piracy are the main reason for why i got into pretty much all of my favorite game franchises.
Imagine a dvd player without a pause button because "you cant pause the movie on the theater!"
It surprises me how good Scott is at making points in every way like, damn.
He could be a really good lawyer.
I skip right to the end of the movie. I just want to watch it to say I watched it.
@@draguOdoT wasn't the "pause button" argument about using a save state specifically when closing the game and reopening it later? he used a different argument for using it to return to anytime.
@@draguOdoT WE GOT ONE FOLKS
Yes!
Long as they refuse to offer superior versions on their official systems, PC emulation should be fine
Scott’s beard is growing, everyone make the hype train for his goatee.
We're gonna get the Mirror Mirror version of Scott. Finally! The good one!
This truly is the Darkest Timeline
Me: *trying to come up with a hype comment* Let's commit a felon with Scott!
just give him a few decades. he'll get there!
Beard? I see dust on his chin.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve said “I wish they just emulated the original BFBB instead of making rehydrated” that made me so happy
what makes them so different? (I haven't played either, just curious)
The original has very satisfying movement and is a great platformer overall while rehydrated has (in my opinion) horrible movement and is kinda a glitchy mess. If you’ve never played the original then you’d probably think it’s a good game but if you played the original then there’s no going back. There’s a lot of other reasons but the original is just so much better
@@barofsoap3795 everything feels so much smoother in the original than the stiffness of the remaster.
@@jab7474 exactly
Personally I prefer the originals art style because it's similar to the early seasons of the show. The remake is based on the current seasons which looks worse to me. I also dislike the obnoxious meme faces they added from the current show.
I enjoy my ROM collection neatly organized, fully meta-data'ed, filterable, retro achievement powered, searchable, quickly navigated and everything else on my RetroArch setup as much as I like my pretty game boxes on the shelf.
@@Dairunt1 my switch is not hackeable, but my steam deck will soon be popping off :D
"I'm too stupid and lazy to emulate" Amen, brother
“You couldn’t pause the movie in the theater” 😆
You hit the nail on the head with that one.
I legit force myself to watch movies without pausing at home as much as possible, pausing ruins immersion
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I respect you and hate you at the same time
@@chaosdimension6433 So you pee in a foley catheter or something? or you wait for a "boring scene" and rush to the bathroom and pee as hard as you possibly can?
@@Faded.Visuals What I do, and I know this is a revolutionary idea (thinking of patenting it) is........(drumroll) I pee before sitting to watch a movie
@@chaosdimension6433 And that's great! Because you can just ignore pausing if you want to, and others can just pause because its so much more convenient for them.
I stopped trusting what Nintendo said after downloading a SNES emulator on my old 2DS and having it run perfectly, despite Nintendo claiming they could only get SNES games to run on New 2DS/3DS models.
Oh, and if I could download a car, I’d be driving a royal blue Lamborghini Huricán with absolutely no regrets.
Wouldn’t be suprised if this was to incentivise people to get new 3ds/2ds’
@@galfinsp7216 oh, that’s absolutely what it was about
@@wadedevinney9681 still makes me wonder why GBA never joined the 3ds VC.
@@galfinsp7216 yeah
I think the reason was that you needed the ZL and ZR buttons to switch between player 1 and 2.
It sounds like dumb reasoning, but it's just the kind of reasoning Nintendo uses nowadays with Switch Online.
I have the greatest respect for people who create emulators. Those scene groups put thousands of hours into emulation simply for the Love of what they are doing. I guess it's never occurred to me that anyone thinks emulation is somehow trashy. It's literally ever crossed my mind to wonder what someone else might think about how I play a video game, I literally don't give a shit. I have a ton of original hardware / consoles, but I also enjoy emulation both on PC and newer consoles. I first discovered emulation on my shift OG Xbox and never looked back! Now I'm going to go play some Panzer Dragoon saga, on my Xbox S. Eat me
_Anyone_ who develops essential and/or awesome software for free deserves respect in my book.
the japanese mario 2/the lost levels is one of those games that DESERVES the rewind feature
In brazil, emulation isn't the easy way to go, it's the ONLY way to go
Sim
The only people that complain about emulators are the guys who are retro traditionalists or the guys who have blew their life savings on game collecting. I see nothing wrong with undermining greedy corporations like Nintendo, Sony, etc.
The thing is... a lot of game collectors are whole heartedly on the emulation side. They don't want to pay 2000 dollars for Little Sampson either.
I also saw people who would complain about emulation are people who are just... well, simply said "Nasty, Cruel, and seek conflict." The people who care only about the Legal part (that emulation is "illegal", it IS NOT) or people who are just cruel and shout on others for the sake of stirring up a conflict!
And because of "Legal" people like this who lick corporate's feet for whichever reason, I was too afraid to Emulate until my 22th of age/year...
Oh, do not worry, I've lost nothing, emulation has only got better (over time) in my absence :-)
@@KingOskar4 right on brother!
@@WeskAlber For sure, and emulation can also be good for reviving old high quality games that didn't sell amazingly well and were too expensive. Chibi Robo may be gone for now, but if the only way to get it was paying 100+ bucks and finding a GameCube, very few people would be able to experience it and demand it back.
You can get a lot more grassroots interest that eventually leads to a series revival if people can access the game for less than the cost of a console and physical cart and can mod it as well. If I were a dev, in the long run I'd rather have people invested in my games than milk fans dry to the point where they pirate it. I'd slap my game on PC and never take it down and print copies as long as I can.
I understand supply and demand but I can't help but feel like I'm being ripped off if someone enjoyed a game for a decade or more and then sells it to me for a hefty profit. There's something inherently dickish about it, even if I wouldn't call it "scalping" like people are doing with PS5's.
The Disney/Nintendo Vault technique of controlling nostalgia to revive a game/movie on THEIR timeline is frankly bullshit market manipulation. If they don't want people pirating their shit, then maybe rerelease HeartGold and SoulSilver for a reasonable price /rant.
If you care that much, learn how to refurbish the hardware and start a damn museum.
I'm so proud of Scott for actually touching on modern Nintendo's bullshit.
It's the universal BS from all console companies
@@rompevuevitos222 yeah but only Nintendo it's on an active quest to errase it
@@rompevuevitos222 Thank you, no one mentions this! Sega and Sony especially so get the pass from people, when they deserve as much of not more scrutiny then Nintendo.
@@indisciipline well technicality on some SEGA games that they copyright. SEGA supports emulation of fanmade sonic games that there is already a new Sonic hacking contest happening now that has been going on for years as well as another happen every summer.
And yet you get cases like Metroid Dread emulation that, in a way, validates Nintendo's stance.
It's as the saying goes, "One bad apple ruins the bunch."
If it weren’t for emulation, I wouldn’t have been able to get into persona and ace attorney (before it released on pc) as well as Danganronpa. All three Of them impacted my life a lot and got me into multiple fandoms during my teenage years around 2012-2017. Also I had an ancient pc and the emulators worked decently on them without much lag, so I was able to play them despite my hardware being terrible. My parents also didn’t want to buy me any consoles and all I had was an old pc, so I made the best of it.
While it wasn't something explicity mentioned in the video, shoutouts to Fightcade which allows people to play emulated older fighting games online with other people with terrific netcode far greater than most ports of fighting games have had. It has revived a lot of titles that otherwise have fallen into obscurity.
Thanks for this comment! My weekend just got significantly better
Same with Super Smash Bros. Melee being playable online with other people via Slippi and Dolphin. It’s great.
Jojo hftf players where you at
In the exact same toxic arcade environment they originally thrived in. Congrats, a culture of garbage has come back to life.
Yes it's really great
Unappreciated joke, Scott is playing “Devil world” a Japanese religious NES game, when he says “Christ’s sake 9:10”
I don't really think that's intentional.
Bravo Vince!
as a user of emulation for a long time, witnessing less than informed arguments about it for years, i’d say this video was _definitely_ needed
Yeah this was probably the most well rounded video on emulation I’ve seen. Very glad to see Scott defending fan emulation.
1:05 The persona footage in a Scott the woz video alarm has gone off.
I think there's a good serious analogy here: translation
Ports are like buying a translated book: the (assumed perfect) translation takes effort, publication, and adds cost, but captures everything about the original in an official package for a new audience.
Emulation is like a (hypothetical) perfect machine translation of a book on an ereader: every book can be read this way and it's a blessing it exists, but it lacks some of the original authorial intent and output is variable.
Having a physical copy of a book has a number of beneficial qualities to it purposely chosen by the publisher, but the machine translation has an infinite library. Both have their benefits.
Of course reading the book in its native language is another discussion altogether, as is the acquisition of the book
Emulation allowed me to play all my childhood games again as well as the games I missed and couldn't have played otherwise. Thanks to it, I finally can say as a MGS fan that I've played all the main line games. Emulation is also important for preservation of games and their history.
😤
same. plus being an adult its a pretty hard sell to the mrs to haul all my games from my parents house to mine.
In all seriousness, this video does a great job of exposing all aspects of emulation and why it raises a lot of questions. Even if it doesn't give any conclusive answers, it can at least help you make your mind with it.
It’s interesting that Scott says emulators don’t work half the time. I’m not sure what emulators he’s using besides Dolphin, but I’ve literally never had issues with emulation. It’s as easy as download the rom, load the rom on the emulator, and you’re set
he's mostly a mac dude, I'm pretty sure he was talking about the state of emulators on mac for that.
Emulators on Mac are still a little rough, but still very capable of functioning if you tinker around with them. The one he is shown using is OpenEMU, which is similar to RetroArch, as it has a lot of different emulator cores.
It can still be tricky setting up the paths for game detection and save files can be tricky if you don’t know what your doing plus you can run into problems of having to unzip and reformat file types which isn’t hard once you know what you are doing.
Newer consoles that have bioses and keys and stuff are a bit harder but it's really not that hard to figure out how to get that stuff
@@demikus Who in their right mind uses a Mac these days lmao
"Emulation is evil! Unless the company is doing it and charging you full price for a game made in 1996!"
The ultimate 5Head retro gaming take.
How do you not understand this? Yes, they own the game.
@@noname-ng6sj so?
@@noname-ng6sj So?
If the game isnt being sold by the copyright holders and if it’s expensive on sites like eBay, emulator’s here I come
Made in 1996 sold in 1996 and re-released and re-sold
@@noname-ng6sj just because Nintendo has the right to be greedy, doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do!
I feel like the fast foward feature on emulators was specifically made for JRPGs. I find it impossible to play through the Gen 4 Pokemon games without fast forward. Watching a Blissey's health go down is like watching paint dry.
Lol. Hopefully ILCA doesn’t factor THAT in the remake.
be a pretty funny bonus option where it just slows the game to a halt.
Considering the cost of the Gen 4 games on the secondary market, emulation is the only option for most. HGSS are well over 120 bucks loose and DPPt aren't much better.
Reminds me of Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Door's "I Love You" 100 times. Using fast forward makes that part less of a tedious process to go through.
Seriously, we had the patience of saints playing GB/GBA games back in the day lol. Also, seeing that 500 fps on the emulator is something special lmao
edit: older games, too. I forgot how agonizing going back to the original Final Fantasy was on NES >.
Here's something I thought Scott would never cover.
Same
Scott the Woz is a video game nerd, he’s bound to talk about it.
We need to emulate Scott's brain so we can have more funny in this world
He even did a tinder video
It seems blasphemous for him
Been emulating classics since I was a baby and I ain’t stopping 😂 doenst hurt NOBODY