The True Origins of BATMAN BEYOND Supervillains - Explained

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  • @joshberninger8355
    @joshberninger8355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +590

    I think Poison Ivy would have been interesting return. Neo Gotham was very industrial with less and less green space. Ivy would have been great to see come back trying to fight this “war on plants” as she’d probably see it. About the only green areas we ever see are lawns and wooded areas around estates like Wayne Manor.

    • @mrheroprimes
      @mrheroprimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      in Return of the Joker the outskirts of Neo Gotham look like a desert which raises the question how much damage did the near apocalypse of 09 do.

    • @anthonyrodriguez3495
      @anthonyrodriguez3495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Yeah, unfortunately unlike comic Ivy this one is mortal, heck tie in comics reveal that the poison Ivy in the final season of BTAS isn't even the real Ivy, their a series of Plant Clones that Ivy makes to keep Harley company while Pamela lives in retirement.
      Once Harley stopped being a villain there's no more reason to make Ivy clones.

    • @somethingfunny2199
      @somethingfunny2199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@anthonyrodriguez3495 As much as I love the idea of Pamela calling it quits and living a quiet life at least only coming back to Gotham to visit Harley after she “died” I can’t get the idea of Ivy returning at some point in Terry’s career out of my head. It would be pretty cool if we got a low stakes down to Earth story about an elderly Ivy and maybe a small group of clones returning life to the outside of New Gotham

    • @Bowiiihowdy
      @Bowiiihowdy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@Robomerc I just wanna see what exactly happend during that.. I know Ra's was the driving force so it must have been a hell of an event

    • @kenthuang436
      @kenthuang436 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Poison Ivy returning would have been interesting and they could have done a societal redemption story for her where she is trying to grow new plants to help balance out the future Gotham’s cityscape that has very little greenery to it and to provide some more sources of breathable air. Ivy is trying to cause any harm but Bruce is somewhat skeptical of her motives but Terry sees that she means no real harm. But some teens vandalize the garden that she had created with the goal of providing people an area to grow their own fruits and vegetables and this sets her off and she creates a plant monster to help her get back at the teens. Terry then manages to calm Ivy down and tell her that some people don’t understand what she is trying to do and that violence isn’t the way to get others to respect plant life. In the process an older Harley appears and rekindles their friendship and both hug each other as it has been a very long time since they last saw each other.

  • @VicEntity
    @VicEntity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +635

    0:30 So you're saying you wouldn't want to see a Riddler story where he has Alzheimer's disease and keeps calling Terry "Bruce" and Terry thinks it's going to be easy to take him down because of the dementia but the Riddler keeps outsmarting him?

  • @peterdanior4538
    @peterdanior4538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    I would have liked to see the Beyond version of the Farmer Brown Clan. So many possibilities they could do with Grandchildren

    • @ItsAVolcano
      @ItsAVolcano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      With the chemical cocktail Farmer Brown had his daughter on we could easily have seen an Emmylou who was still in her prime leading said clan.

    • @phatmantv
      @phatmantv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Man, that would be terrific.

    • @Dhampir101980
      @Dhampir101980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It would be a great reason to bring back the concept of Splicing as well. That was one of the show’s darkest episodes

    • @blakethebeast3174
      @blakethebeast3174 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Emmy Lou has a daughter that looks like exactly she did in TNBA and she has crush on Batman... while also trying to crush his head between her hands. Terry and women, man, just Terry and women, man.

  • @ems6706
    @ems6706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I used to write Batman beyond fanfic and I always had this concept for Clock King adjacent villain. Basically the starting premise is that Clock King after getting arrested wrote a manifesto about efficiency that ends up as a very prized piece of information after a Mega Corp dedicated to software institutes it and has a nearly 50 percent raise in efficiency.
    However, the CEO of said corporation decides to create an AI built with the manifesto in mind to regulate the workers, and that AI gains sentience after the well oiled machine it's maintained gets interrupted by Terry smashing through one of the labs it's in charge of fighting a super villain.
    The company has a number of contracts with Gotham PD and the city to maintain their surveillance systems which have a backdoor the AI can access which it uses to frame Batman with a manufactured surveillance feed of Batman murdering a perp just to remove the unknown element of Batman that the AI can't account for in it's efficiency algorithm. This leads to a storyline of Terry and Bruce versus this massive surveillance network through out Gotham and trying to figure out who framed Terry.
    I really liked Clock King, and always thought these Mega Corps in Gotham would adapt his ideas about efficiency to an AI. I hope this isn't really lame lol.

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I know I'm more than late to the party but this is actually a really cool idea for a cyberpunk dystopia. Sounds like the paperclip maximizer.

    • @willshay300
      @willshay300 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s sick dude

    • @GODOFAWSOMENESS1
      @GODOFAWSOMENESS1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not lame

  • @SerumLake
    @SerumLake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    False Face was also a villain from the 60’s Batman TV show. He was a slightly more grounded version of Clayface in that he wore a creepy mask like the original but was able to transform in to other people like the second.

    • @tylersaez4095
      @tylersaez4095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The Batman 66 comics actually turned False Face into Clayface.

    • @Ted-Kendrick
      @Ted-Kendrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I totally forgot about the 60s False Face! That would have been worth the mention!

    • @SerumLake
      @SerumLake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Mark Guerrero I’d imagine it was because the first Clayface was too gruesome for the show, and the second one would’ve been too difficult/expensive to bring to the small screen.

    • @mrheroprimes
      @mrheroprimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@SerumLake The reason the Clayface was swapped out for False Face was because clayface's powers would have been very difficult to recreate in the 1960s. so the choices was made to give Basil Karlo the False Face id ironically False Face only appeared for one storyline. The character never returned as the False Face mask scared younger viewers.

    • @SerumLake
      @SerumLake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mrheroprimes apparently there was some sort of contract dispute with the actor that played him as well. This was another reason why they opted to not bring the character back (although they didn't have a problem recasting Mr Freeze...)

  • @AussieDragoon
    @AussieDragoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I enjoyed Shriek and Spellbinder the most. I think both have this cool, creepy vibe to them that the other rouges don't.

    • @nanossquad1706
      @nanossquad1706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same, but I enjoyed inque the most out of the new Villains

    • @nathaniel6526
      @nathaniel6526 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nanossquad1706 Willie watt hates black people

  • @ashleytuchin7693
    @ashleytuchin7693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    I would have liked to see Terry take on Condiment King. Think of all the futuristic new condiments that would have been in existence by that point!

    • @Ichiyama22
      @Ichiyama22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Hyper-mustard! TurboRelish! *KETCHUP 2!*

    • @ProjektTaku
      @ProjektTaku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      supersauce activate!

    • @blakethebeast3174
      @blakethebeast3174 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      "What's wrong, Batman, am I too SEASONED for you?"

    • @yourlocalcrackhead
      @yourlocalcrackhead ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Man pulls out KFC supercharger

    • @Theover4000
      @Theover4000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sechuan Sauce!

  • @someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779
    @someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    It's a damn shame we never got a Beyond version of Batman's most iconic foe: the Condiment King.

  • @YoItsMatt
    @YoItsMatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Can’t believe I never thought of a Terry/Booster Gold team up before, that sounds awesome

    • @Ted-Kendrick
      @Ted-Kendrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And it was written by Booster’s creator Dan Jergens!

    • @andrewcozzini8259
      @andrewcozzini8259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I haven't read it yet, but I like the idea of it. I think so mainly because Booster's from even further in the future than Terry, which kind of negates the "future" gimmick Terry usually has on the main present-day characters. I think Reverse-Flash would be a good fit for like a JL: Beyond story for the same reasons.

  • @MannyMensah94
    @MannyMensah94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Blight was dope. Wished he had more episodes.

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah because I wonder what would happen if Terry did sent Blight to prison

    • @mrheroprimes
      @mrheroprimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@srstriker6420 given his power set he probably be put into some sort of prison cell that is able to contain him much like The Batman cartoon Firefly after he became phosphorus.

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrheroprimes Yeah I guess you’re probably right

    • @andrewcozzini8259
      @andrewcozzini8259 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He does appear in #18 of the tie-in comics to "Beyond" of the same name. Interesting read, if you haven't.

    • @funnyfunnyvalentine7991
      @funnyfunnyvalentine7991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He should've been the joker of Beyond

  • @thesenate9562
    @thesenate9562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I would have liked for them to bring back more of the older villains. Some for last hurrahs like Mr. Freeze got, some for “where-are-they-now”s like Bane , but also new people taking up their old mantles. I find it incredibly hard to believe that imitators of villains like Riddler and Scarecrow wouldn’t show up, or someone new taking up the Penguin alias. I understand why they chose not to, but it’s a shame they didn’t do more of the oldies.

    • @tigerlord9302
      @tigerlord9302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spellbinder was Scarecrow originally, then it’s revealed Scarecrow has a daughter who takes over in the comics,

    • @Crimson_CourierTTV
      @Crimson_CourierTTV ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@tigerlord9302i thought it was just someone who got accidentally hit by fear gas when bats tracked down some gangsters. It was cranes daughter?

  • @andrewcozzini8259
    @andrewcozzini8259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    At 9:21, I've always loved that Mr. Freeze design ever since I first saw it in "Batman: Dark Tomorrow." I had no idea it's what inspired the "Beyond" Freeze suit; wow!

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was my favorite tidbit from this video, too!

  • @Spidermanspal
    @Spidermanspal ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think an older killer croc would have been awesome, because reptiles do live a long time.
    It would also be funny if he confused Terry for Bruce upon their first encounter

  • @grantwilson4506
    @grantwilson4506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    By Batman Beyond, I think they state that Scarecrow retired and died while performing experiments, but I think a great episode plot would be Terry consulting him (as a civilian) to take down either Spellbinder or a new Scarecrow who is using an old plan of his that he could never implement because it was too impractical at the time due to a lack of resources.
    Either that, or a Riddler story with the same premise, but Terry has to use Riddler both to help solve the riddles and to help dismantle the plan of the new Riddler

  • @JMandJJ7797
    @JMandJJ7797 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel like a part of why Batman Beyond's villains don't usually hit as well as the old BTAS besides them not having many that are a parallel or foil to Terry Mcginis as most of Bruce's rogue's gallery were. I guess one that could count would be his former friend that still lived a delinquent life but he dies in the second episode. Imagine if Anarky was brought in as a Batman Beyond villain. It would fit with the sort of cyberpunk aesthetic of the series having a group of anarchists taking things too far while having a point especially if Anarky was screwed over by Wayne Corp in the past back when it was run by Powers/Blight.

  • @dannybuckle3763
    @dannybuckle3763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I would've really liked to have seen Two-Face and Poison Ivy in Beyond. If it were up to me Two-Face would ve found some sort of inner peace between his personalities and reconnected with his wife after being released from Arkham, while Poison Ivy would've taken over an island off the coast of South America and fully engrossed herself in it after hearing of Harley's "death", no longer feeling any sort of connection to her humanity now that her girlfriend was seemingly gone for good, until a Wayne-Powers oil-spill near her island pisses her off enough to go back to Gotham and start tearing through the city until Harley finally comes out of hiding and talks her down, the episode ending on them getting back together at last and departing to live somewhere else together.
    I've also always thought that it would've been funny if they took advantage of the audience's lack of knowledge on everything Bruce did between TNBA and the opening flashback of Beyond to bring back a classic Batman villain that didn't show up in BTAS or TNBA at all (maybe KGBeast or Copperhead? Doctor Death possibly? I don't know; just somebody who's fought Bruce a bunch of times in the comics) and have everybody but Terry see this as the big return of a classic threat, while Terry himself serves as a viewer avatar and just finds himself really confused by everything since he never heard of this villain before now.

    • @ramincoles3869
      @ramincoles3869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jll Lol m

    • @Ted-Kendrick
      @Ted-Kendrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      All great ideas!

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yo imagine them bringing in Reaper like this

    • @Leonard_Wilson
      @Leonard_Wilson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn these are some good ideas

    • @Abominatrix650
      @Abominatrix650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ItsButterBean1020 "Reaper"? I take it you're referring to someone who isn't the guy who looks like the Hot Topic version of Phantasm with a love for shotguns?

  • @jonathandalmog
    @jonathandalmog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Poison ivy or clay face could work absolutely in the beyond era

  • @ItsAVolcano
    @ItsAVolcano ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:50 I like to imagine this group are literally the generation before the gang that fights Terry. Especially as a big part of their backstory is that Queen's father was the previous King during what was apparently a far more successful era for the RFG.

  • @WarmLillie
    @WarmLillie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Out all of villain, I think that inque is a pure tragic villain. She was my favorite and backed made sealed deal in ink.

    • @zalabit927
      @zalabit927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, prior to the comic se was mostly just a weird, scary femme fatale with just a bit of backstory regarding her daughter.
      I hope she comes back in an animated series or movie, as well as Blight and Shriek (the last one purely by his design and abilities, damn that suit is dope asf).

    • @nathaniel6526
      @nathaniel6526 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zalabit927 Willie watt is a Jewish racist

    • @zalabit927
      @zalabit927 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nathaniel6526 Wtf does that nerd even have to do with the villains i mentioned?

    • @nathaniel6526
      @nathaniel6526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zalabit927 I'm just saying that Willie watt is a Jewish racist

    • @zalabit927
      @zalabit927 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nathaniel6526 Yeah i see you commenting about it more than once.
      I don't remember a thing about Willie, how is he any of that anyway?

  • @loganswalk8621
    @loganswalk8621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One villain I want to see return is Shriek the guy really showed just how devastating sound can be as a superpower from producing sound waves capable of leveling building to eliminate all sound in a area for complete silence and even making all language incomprehensible plus he's has a personal vendetta against Batman(Terry) for making him deaf in their first fight.

  • @bobi200samatar6
    @bobi200samatar6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Inque is visually iconic, like any good batman villain should be. On the other hand, I loved Spellbinders mind control tactics. I also loved Curare. A simple assassin is hard to not love.

  • @nerdycoconut1344
    @nerdycoconut1344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Im gonna say this once, his main villains are very clearly inspired by Spider-Man’s rogues.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Very true! Check out our Marvel References in the DCAU videos!

    • @nerdycoconut1344
      @nerdycoconut1344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Blight-Green Goblin
      Inque-sandman/venom
      Shriek-Shocker
      Spellbinder-Mysterio

    • @natelittle5378
      @natelittle5378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      And Stalker is just Kraven the Hunter...
      He even meets a twisted fantastic four.

    • @thirdplanet4471
      @thirdplanet4471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@nerdycoconut1344 I thought some of Terry's villains were updated versions of Bruce's villains. Like Inque and Clayface respectively.

    • @markmagician2471
      @markmagician2471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Definally Spellbinder a lamer version of Mysterio

  • @Larry
    @Larry ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's a shame none of the previous villians came back as reformed, moved on from their old ways, even made peace with Batman. The Penguin would have been great for that.

  • @justmoonwithamustache
    @justmoonwithamustache 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Fun Facts:
    Timm considers "The Terrible Trio" the *WORST* of the bad episodes of the DCAU and he personally apologized for it
    In "The Call", Bruce knows the location of the Fortress of Solitude because of the JLU episode "For the Man who has everything"

    • @anthonyrodriguez3495
      @anthonyrodriguez3495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Strange that Bruce Timm considers Terrible Trio the worst of the DCAU, I thought it was pretty decent.
      Even only looking at Batman TAS there are far worse episodes, The Demon Within, Critters, and Time Out of Joint being three examples.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can agree that "The Terrible Trio" is overhated. Same with "I've Got Batman in My Basement" and "The Mechanic".
      For me, I don't think there's a terribad B: TAS/TNBA ep that makes me want to wish fanon discontinuity on it, but I would put "Prophecy of Doom" as one of the weaker eps.
      I actually like "Time Out of Joint" since the Clock King's return was long awaited in my opinion, while I have a huge fascination with time manipulation as a tool for combat and making ends meet, as seen in works like First Encounter Assault Recon, Max Payne, and the recent Trepang2 with "bullet time", Steins;Gate and its time-leaping, Titanfall 2 and that one-level time-skipping device, and most especially Puella Magi Madoka Magica and the awesome yet tragic magical girl character known as Homura Akemi. Helps that the ep kind of foreshadows the evolution of time travel later on in the DCAU.

  • @buttonsfan
    @buttonsfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I would have liked to seen many future versions of Batman villains.
    •Emperor Penguin: Oswald “Ozzy” Banks, Penguin’s large, intelligent, illegitimate (grand)son
    •Red Hood & Black Mask: Carrie Kelly & Jason Todd, neither joined Batman in this timeline, and Carrie feels like the world is off kilter.
    •The Terrible Trio: unfortunately “The Batman” did the Splicer version of the Terrible Trio

  • @Tystarr
    @Tystarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I find it hella interesting that the most memorable villains in the show came from the minds of the artist's first, then the writers.

  • @andrewcozzini8259
    @andrewcozzini8259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    (5 seconds in)
    Ted: "'Batman Beyond' was a badass reinvention of the classic superhero!"
    Me: "Well then, consider me on-board!"

  • @nobod2567
    @nobod2567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would like Two-Face to return in a Batman Beyond story, having the same treatment as he did in the Dark Knight Returns comic.

  • @ermacmacro7136
    @ermacmacro7136 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'd like to also think that someone related to Roland Daggot has something to do with False Face's powers, since Daggot's face cream is what gave Matt Hagan's initial ability to mold his face to mimic people.

  • @tashibalampkin8555
    @tashibalampkin8555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Flat Top Jones" and "Little Face." Bruh. What type of mess? 🤣

  • @spikeyanime9828
    @spikeyanime9828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think a riddler or a penguin type villain would've felt nice. One to challenge Terry's intellect and the Penguin type to challenge him with the publics eye. The riddler could've been and fan girl or boy that wanted to recreate the riddlers iconic riddles and traps, while the Penguin character could've been a descendent of Cobblepot, and he could've been called Emperor Penguin

  • @thenationaltimelyactionhou9328
    @thenationaltimelyactionhou9328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great job guys. My favourite BBeyond villain is Inque. And why are you avoiding doing an STAS timeline video?!

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not avoiding! Our timeline videos are wrapped up in our channel lore storyline, which already has the big 3-part finale filmed! That’ll be coming out within the next couple months hopefully, then we can get back to timeline/Will It Canon/etc. videos on a more regular basis!

    • @captainawsomeist
      @captainawsomeist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She’s my favourite too!

  • @warriorsfan216
    @warriorsfan216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Batman beyond is one of the my favorite shows and love watching it

  • @keNNed1987
    @keNNed1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Do you know what killed the dinosaurs?"
    "Well Chucko do"
    :D

  • @andrewcozzini8259
    @andrewcozzini8259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Favorite "Beyond" villain, huh. (🤔) I'd say Derek Powers/Blight, but I'm thinking I like Ira Billings/Spellbinder just as much, if not even best! Really underrated character.

  • @nightblockprimecraft9284
    @nightblockprimecraft9284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just binging all the various playlists and keep checking for this to come out. Finally.

  • @oxfordirishdictionary4855
    @oxfordirishdictionary4855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    that inque theory is actually really good and is now part of my headcannon

  • @brent1222
    @brent1222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think these villain all deserve more attention. They are on the same level as many of the og batman his rogues.

  • @thespectre717
    @thespectre717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will always love Blight he was bloody terrifying but I also liked Spellbinder, always did like the idea of Psychological based villians

  • @faizanfarooque4505
    @faizanfarooque4505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dr. Francis D'Anjou and Nora's story needed to be fleshed out a bit more. In the comics, they revealed him to be a villianish person of sorts. So an alliance with Grant Walker to follow up Batman: Gotham Adventures 5 would have been interesting, only if Dan Slott and Ty were writing, of course.

  • @IanOPadrick
    @IanOPadrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A Dark Knight Returns lookin' Harvey Dent that needs to be asked about the details of an old case could have been fun. Like, they need to check the legal precident of something, and he's the only surviving member of that particular courtroom, and the Two Face persona keeps interfering in the investigation

  • @TigerGameChannel
    @TigerGameChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Two-Face beyond sounds kinda neat. But if we step aside from specifically Batman's villains, i would probably choose some Titans' rogues. Or Livewire might be a good idea or even some characters who also originates not from comics like Arkham Knight and Red X. And of course, how can we forget one of the Batman's best enemies, the Mister Wing himself?

    • @mrheroprimes
      @mrheroprimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      technically Batman Beyond does have a two-faced equivalent Terminal/Carter Wilson.

  • @Abominatrix650
    @Abominatrix650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phantasm also appeared in Epilogue. Just putting that out there because I think it deserves a mention

  • @christianburnett236
    @christianburnett236 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always wondered why the classic batman villains never surfaced, however I can respect their decision why they chose terry Batman's villains instead still made me miss the classic villains but i suppose it's as if they're resting peacefully. Stuff like this boosts my inspiration for future concepts/characters I enjoy watching things such as this.

  • @brent1222
    @brent1222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would have loved to see a mental hospital for not criminally insane people that was founded by harvey dent after he got rid of two face. That would make a really interesting set up i think

  • @joeytheslimeboi8900
    @joeytheslimeboi8900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    False Face was also a villain that appeared in the 60s Batman series and may have appeared in a few comics before then as well

  • @odistabettor
    @odistabettor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A new Madhatter Beyond could have been cool as the mind-control tech would be even more advanced, maybe even convincing the victim they are really in Wonderland. Perhaps too similar to Spellbinder, but maybe this Madhatter could run a SAO like videogame world that could trap Terry or another main character inside it. Maybe they could even turn all of Neo-Gotham into a twisted Wonderland. A future version of the Court of Owls might be interesting. Future Dick Grayson and other members of the Titans returning to fight some of their villains alongside Terry. Ghostmaker Beyond? Clock King Beyond? Black Mask Beyond? And def Killer Croc, who could even work with a bunch of kids who didn't get their splice taken away. Also, Etrigan.

  • @kernowpictures2002
    @kernowpictures2002 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah what makes these” villains“ so compelling is that the majority of them have a tragic past that motivates them to commit crimes against society

  • @LP3Customs
    @LP3Customs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    17:18 Did you say Robert Vance? As in Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration?

  • @rorysyers8457
    @rorysyers8457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd like to see the Penguin, I've always had a soft spot for Oswald Cobblepot.

  • @frogmouth2
    @frogmouth2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think they coulda did something with poison Ivy cuz the life span of plants and animals varies a lot. Some plants able to survive 1000s of years while others only a couple months. Maybe in one episode it could be revealed they she eventually became just a plant eventually. Kind of like Harold from fallout.

  • @Foxtrot222
    @Foxtrot222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would have loved to see Poison Ivy-a storyline I imagine was where it's revealed in the end that it's not the original who returned, but the earth of Gotham itself seeking vengeance.

  • @skarloey1214
    @skarloey1214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Video Ted.

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Inque will always be a favorite of mine.

  • @waterking74
    @waterking74 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Higher ups: hey can u not use any of Batman’s rogues gallery
    Bruce Timm and artists team: *whelp time to make some OCs* 😏
    Me: thank u whoever made inque 🙇‍♂️

  • @Batgirl_fangirl
    @Batgirl_fangirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For me I would have liked to see the Riddler as he's probably my favourite super villain.
    Maybe Terry could have fought an echo of Nygma from when he was trapped in his VR world in the episode "What is Reality?"maybe that could have survived into the future.🤔
    After all, Edward Nygma's greatest weapon was his intellect.

  • @captainawsomeist
    @captainawsomeist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great job Ted, I love Batman Beyond, my favourite villain is Inque. I wish that we knew what happened to Two-Face.

  • @andrewcozzini8259
    @andrewcozzini8259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The bit at 7:19 reminds me of how Kevin Conroy always says in interviews, "I wasn't even aware Batman had never been an animated show." At which time, I'm always all, "So we're just going to act as though "Superfriends"/Filmation Batman wasn't a thing?" Lol. I kid, Kevin; please never stop playing Batman!

  • @TreyC68
    @TreyC68 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think a cool concept for a Scarface Beyond would be to have a GCPD officer who feels under appreciated and is also dealing with mental issues be cleaning out an old evidence locker one night and come across the doll. As the officer is looking at the doll he suddenly hears the doll talk to him and it instructs him to take it out of the building. The guy brings Scarface home and it starts telling the guy that he’s going to help him take back the Gotham underbelly. The guy gives into the temptation and Scarface re-emerges as the top cat of Neo Gotham crime scene. The doll could also be worn down due to all those years sitting inside an evidence locker

  • @EuropaSenshi
    @EuropaSenshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They explained Inque's back story in one of the Batman Beyond comics (issue 18, the final issue of that run of Batman Beyond comics). I think it's also the same issue that had Nissa / Batgirl Beyond.

  • @matthewvollmer2066
    @matthewvollmer2066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Batman did meet The Thing during JLA/Avengers

  • @tropicalshores700
    @tropicalshores700 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd have loved to see Clay face. His character always has amazing story potential

  • @S_047
    @S_047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shriek had to be my fav Beyond villain as a kid. The name, suit, powers. Badass. Sad he had so little episodes

  • @edgardeitz2784
    @edgardeitz2784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:52 - recombine Inque with the Brushogun (Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo) and you'd have the basis for a badass ink villian; that's right -
    Inque, Brushogun, Evil Bendy (Bendy and the Ink Machine), Phantom Blot (Disney - colored version from "Mickey Mouse Works")
    Phantom Blot (Disney - may have some magic in him version from "Epic Mickey"), the Chemeleon art thief (Super Secret Secret Squirrel), Splatterpheonix (Darkwing Duck), etc. But ESP. the first three...

  • @AboveandBatmanBeyond
    @AboveandBatmanBeyond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    SUPER schway having us on, guys! Let’s do it again soon

    • @Ted-Kendrick
      @Ted-Kendrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you, “Bruce Timm!”

  • @Peter_S.Woldrich
    @Peter_S.Woldrich 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:57 throwing seriousshade at Spider-Man 2099 xD

  • @Onthejazz247
    @Onthejazz247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always seen the Batman beyond rogues as interpretations of the spider-man villains. Blight is a green industrialist, like the goblin, spellbinder is an illusioncaster like mysterio, inque is a puddle of black goo like the venom symbiote, Stalker is a wild hunter like kraven. Kobra was always kind of a hydra knock off even before beyond. Armory is a weapons designer in a suit of armor like iron man. The terrific trio are like the fantastic four as you say. The splicers can reflect all the guys like rhino, lizard, tarantula and other half-man, half-animals

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep! Check out our “Marvel References in the DCAU” videos!

    • @wiggard
      @wiggard ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh

    • @cartoonishidealism582
      @cartoonishidealism582 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean yeah but I also feel like Batman just… kinda always had a similar Rogues Gallery to Spider-Man too.
      Mysterio is like Scarecrow (and Spellbinder)
      Black Cat is like Catwoman.
      Sandman is like Clayface (and Inque to a lesser extent)
      The Lizard is like Killer Croc, and also Man-Bat (scientist who experimented on himself and transformed into a half-animal monster)
      Me Negative is like Harvey Dent.
      Hell you could argue Kraven the Hunter and Bane are similar - both being people who travel across the world to an American city to hunt down an animal-themed superhero.
      And they both fight a ton of miscellaneous mob bosses.

  • @ToniBingi
    @ToniBingi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would have liked more episodes like the Bane one. I wouldn't want Terry to fight the same villains as Bruce, but rather have new villains created as a biproduct of past villains. We could have had a new plant-loving villain that worshipped Poison Ivy as a champion of nature. We could have had Inque's formula be referred to as a refined version of the Clayface formula. Or, in a Bruce-centric episode, we could have introduced older Selina Kyle, now with a daughter (implied or even confirmed to be Bruce's) who has decided (against her mother's wishes) to become a cat burglar (though not necessarily with a cat theme).
    Or maybe, in a more grounded story involving organized crime rather than supervillains, old man Two-Face, now more-or-less cured. Maybe would have been a nice moment to have an old villain of Bruce's ask Terry to tell the 'old batman' they're sorry for everything and they're grateful for everything he did for them. The only villain we got in that way was Freeze, and I don't think he ever expressed that sentiment to Batman.
    Could also have been cool to just get more background references. Such as old man Cobblepot - not really part of the plot, but still running the Iceberg Lounge.

  • @LeviChurch
    @LeviChurch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really liked seeing The Batman finally getting talked about on this channel. Thanks Ted for remembering that Spellbinder was in it.

  • @world_ender9500
    @world_ender9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly it was sort of a missed opportunity in my eyes to not have deathstroke or dead shot return I’m the future. Their motifs would go perfect with the future setting and due to them being masked villains you could have done a whole arc of Batman being confused that the once 60 year old deathstroke has returned and then have it be revealed to be his daughter using his likeness.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That last part feels a little too close to “Out of the Past” to me, but also, Deathstroke and Deadshot had never appeared in the DCAU before “Batman Beyond.” Deadshot didn’t appear until years later in “Justice League,” and Deathstroke didn’t appear until friggin’ 2020 in “Batman: The Adventures Continue.” That being said, though, the Royal Flush Gang still appeared in BB and were linked to Batman’s past despite never being in BTAS or TNBA, so I suppose it could’ve worked, but it may have been a little odd considering how high profile of characters Deathstroke or Deadshot are.

    • @world_ender9500
      @world_ender9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dcauwatchtower that’s a good point! I’d love to see them in the future but at the same time I also think it would be pretty cool to bring back some other cool villains like babydoll, roxy rocket or Scarface even if I struggle to imagine how they could possibly do a futuristic Scarface lol

  • @fredmedinaii4364
    @fredmedinaii4364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A future Firefly to fight Terry would be awesome !

  • @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
    @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    False Face could be a reference to the 60s batman villain of the same name who was like chameleon and og clayface. Also signal man should have been used in The Batman 2022 instead of Riddler

  • @dannymacgyver
    @dannymacgyver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think they could of worked in foes like Black Mask clue master and Zsasz

  • @pickedceasar1216
    @pickedceasar1216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the thought of not having any of the old rouges gallery not appearing but I think it's a bit of a mistep on their part as they just cut themselves off from making more versions of older characters on top of the original ones.
    Glad the did sort of change their tune later on but we could've gotten some cool updates to older characters who have been the same since their inception

  • @elilabauve2593
    @elilabauve2593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve got to say blight and even though his inspiration doctor phosphorus is pretty obscure he’s a favorite of mine

  • @J1P2K
    @J1P2K 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I’m remember correctly, False Face appeared in the Adam West Batman series.

  • @erichousley448
    @erichousley448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Derek is my enemy in high school. But not good enough to a villain. But that makes me love Blight even more for having the same name. What's even my funny he has both villains names in one Derek Osborne lol 😂

    • @erichousley448
      @erichousley448 ปีที่แล้ว

      I forgot to put Green Goblin. Put them both together Blight and Green Goblin. You get Derek Osborne lol

    • @erichousley448
      @erichousley448 ปีที่แล้ว

      I forgot to put Green Goblin. Put them both together Blight and Green Goblin. You get Derek Osborne lol

  • @oxfordirishdictionary4855
    @oxfordirishdictionary4855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I kinda wish we got like a future version of bane, like his son or his daughter, kinda like what's happening in the current Joker solo series

  • @BigBWolf90
    @BigBWolf90 ปีที่แล้ว

    You left out Big Time & Two Face. Poison Ivy, the Ventriloquist & Scarface could have had an interesting upgrade as well

  • @jazzmyn5804
    @jazzmyn5804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Inque was always my favorite BB rogue, but Spellbinder's design was cool too (do I sense a pattern?)

  • @Awestefeld6612
    @Awestefeld6612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Batman fought a werewolf should not have been any real trouble for Terry to fight the same werewolf.

  • @thatonecomicbookguy
    @thatonecomicbookguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m a little disappointed that we never saw Beyond Batman fight Condiment King :(

  • @johnharris3455
    @johnharris3455 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    False face was also a villain in the 1960's TV series. Just a little FYI. Love your work by the way.

  • @blakethebeast3174
    @blakethebeast3174 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would have liked to see a version of the Ventriloquist that combined a social media influencer with a Vtuber persona that was unaware they were trying to kill Batman for views in a slightly more realistic take on Disassociative Identity Disorder. Bonus points in that they're a friend of Terry's, because of course Terry would know them in civilian life.

  • @gameinsane4718
    @gameinsane4718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking of clowns with personality… Injustice Year Zero
    “Ned’s an arsonist” lives rent free in my mind

  • @stanleyteriaca2184
    @stanleyteriaca2184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Monk, Lord Death Man, Shame.

  • @patrickdupuis9091
    @patrickdupuis9091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved Shriek and the royal flush gang

  • @Albino_Basilisk
    @Albino_Basilisk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:35 this is the issue with modern legacy characters, like miles morales. Marvel is too afraid to craft original villains for him. It’s even worse, because miles has been shown numerous times taking out Spider-Man’s villains with just one hit of his venom blast… those are some stakes alright…

  • @srstriker6420
    @srstriker6420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Penguin, killer Croc, Riddler, Clayface and the injustice league beyond
    You remember me saying about Helena Wayne (well I don’t mean she should be a villain, but as a partner) and about a Monster League?

  • @blueeagle2914
    @blueeagle2914 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Night of the stalker would be a cool movie and I personally wouldn’t mind a video on it

  • @khathaway414
    @khathaway414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Earth Mover was one of my favorite one time villains.

    • @marcaddow7326
      @marcaddow7326 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Tony Maycheck’s story was so sad and heartbreaking. His episode was the most genuinely, eerie experience I’ve ever had watching a show or a live action movie. His design was just plain haunting

  • @andrewcozzini8259
    @andrewcozzini8259 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 0:33, lol, silly James and his editing. That's not elderly Riddler! That's Ra's al Ghul's son, Arkady Duvall, with a strange little purple mask superimposed. I know this 'cause "Showdown" is one of my favorite, underrated DCAU episodes. (Obviously, I know you know this, it was mainly meant for comedic purposes. If it didn't make you laugh, at least this like 12th post helped further feed the Algorithm beast!)

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dang, I really thought you’d be tricked. ;)

    • @andrewcozzini8259
      @andrewcozzini8259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dcauwatchtower In the words of Batman (from "Panic in the Sky"), "Maybe next time!"

  • @winstonjwingo
    @winstonjwingo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "mad stan" is my favorite batman beyond villian

  • @Sir_Saki
    @Sir_Saki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheetah would have been interesting. Unlike Wonder Woman's original version, she was a biogeneticist and could have been an inspiration for splicing if not the earliest splicer in TAS. Ultra-Humanite was one of my FAVORITES. The guy wasn't even much of a villain and was even convinced to help. It would have been interesting to see him as an older ape man who moved to another ape body. He was incredibly cultured and intelligent so it would have been interesting to see Batman/Bruce bring up a talking Gorilla man to Terry and mention how common it was to see them, confusing and maybe freaking terry out.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely would’ve been Man-Bat as far as we know, or maybe earlier Emile Dorian stuff we didn’t see! But yeah, always loved the idea of Cheetah’s work tying into future splicing.

  • @waywardwatcher2053
    @waywardwatcher2053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always had the head canon that Inque got her powers in an attempt to replicate plastic mans abilities but push them even further

  • @WarmLillie
    @WarmLillie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Lillie grab bit inque* I wonder if could…
    *She play piece development soon she hvenom style attachment*
    Lillie: “I might be Lillie… But with small pieces, I can become hero…”
    *She extend her hand to create black ink soon mimic her more human appearance*
    Lilnque: “We are bit Linque…”

  • @SellavinAtoms
    @SellavinAtoms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the things I liked about that might be on this day it didn't know things with its characters especially the character of Derek Powers AKA blight but was killed off because the WB at the time and wanted to share shows towards more young adults and the most popular show at the time was Buffy the vampire Slayer I love Buffy show but I'm more of an Angel fan and that was kind of the wrong move we got some character development but they really dropped the ball with them and I think.

  • @kernowpictures2002
    @kernowpictures2002 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel sympathetic and sorry for inque considering in one of the episodes she almost died and it was so gut wrenching emotional to hear her scream in excruciating agony

    • @kernowpictures2002
      @kernowpictures2002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And betrayed by her own heartless daughter

    • @nathaniel2874
      @nathaniel2874 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kernowpictures2002 Willie watt hates white people

  • @BBC190
    @BBC190 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tons of respect to the creators for making original villains Blight is easily my favorite batman villain great vid very informative.

  • @amur1317
    @amur1317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Currently rewatching this TV show, it's great! My question for you is if you will ever do some video on Justice League Action. Will it Canon?, Review etc. Thanks in advance for answer :)

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe! Eric Carrasco, who wrote “Justice League vs the Fatal Five,” wrote episodes of JL Action, DCAU producer Alan Burnett worked on it, they reuse some of the voice actors and character designs…there’s something to be said someday!

    • @amur1317
      @amur1317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dcauwatchtower That's Amazing! thanks :D