STEERING RACK NOISE | RACK PRELOAD ADJUSTMENT | YOLK SCREW | HOW TO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ต.ค. 2020
- After a couple years of driving on rough roads , car steering components usually gets loose and start to make clunk and rattle noise , steering rack is the major component of the steering system in a car ,
every steering rack has an adjustment to overcome for the free play developed after years of use , which is called a steering rack preload adjustement or a yoke screw adjustment
steering rack can develop noise due to two types of freeplay either vertical or horizontal , in horizontal play mostly chances are that your rack gear has worn down enough , but vertical play can be adjusted .
performed on a volkswagen polo , remains identical for every vw car out their like vento , ameo , golf , jetta , passat , skoda rapid , fabia , octavia , audi a3 , audi a4 , and similar for every car with a rack and pinion setup , just the position of yoke screw differs. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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One of the best video I've seen, straight to the point no BS, this is what we need honest mechanics that helps others thank you
Thank you my man I've been looking for a solution for a year now . Keep up the good work 🙂 💕
Excellent video, not to long yet very informative and well explained. Great example shown in video very helpful. Thanks
Watching this video in July 2022.
Thank you so much for this. Highly appreciate. Facing this issue since weeks, showed at the showroom too but they couldn't resolve it!
My house is up a very rough track and my VW has been making this noise for 4 years and I dont have spare money to pay for the fix so I will try this. Thanks you for sharing this information, its really helpful.
Sir before that try lubricating the rack as well to get the best results, video is on channel
Very informative and straight on the point video.
Excellent information for VW owners .. now we don't need to go to showroom for small things :)
You just saved me £600 thanks dude, your the best 👍
Anytime sir
Did it work?
I will try to do this my friend thank you so Much! 🙌🏻💯
Very good and informative video. Good English too!
Thank you. From South Africa
thx bro you saved my day
Loved your work. You are a genius.
Thank you for the advice I appreciate it thanks again
Nice video bro very informative keep it up 👍 its very helpfull
Thank you for posting
With the actual noise, perfect video man.
Thank you so much, i am having same problem
Thank you for this video. Just replaced inner and outer tie rods, lower control arms and stabilizer arms on my renault. Not long after started to get this exact noise from steering and concluded I probably need new steering rack and I would need to most of the work again. Watched countless youtube videos to try found "easy" fix. I'll try this today. Your video is only one explaining properly how to adjust the steering rack, some even said it needs to be adjusted in 180 degree turns which sounded silly as can be.
😅 sor thousand people thousand processes , but i try to follow the workshop manual . Thanks a lot for appreciating.
did it work?
Thank you friend... informative
Good brother
My wait is over
Very good explanation
thank you man👍
Great video
Same thing happened to my car. Had clunking noise coming from the front left side whenever going through uneven roads. Replaced the lower arm, outer and inner tie rods but the clunking noise was still there albeit not as loud as before. Decided to replaced the steering rack and voila, no more clunking noise! And steering free play that I felt before was gone as well!
Sir that needed just a bitt of adjustment
@@yourDIYneeds what needed adjustment
Sir your older steering rack , that was just in need of preload adjustment , and maybe a little bit of new lubrication
@@yourDIYneeds u mean to stop the clunking noise
Yes sir
I'm driving a Hyundai i20... I'm having the same problem.. I'll check it when I get time. Thank you
Thankyou very much. I faced this problem in i10 also in 2012. Its a common issue in i10 also
Did you fix it? If so how my friend?
@@parsaomer3846 thousands of i10s in my batch were defective so there was no permanent solution. My particular car had 4 owners in 6 years eventually. Company quietly recalled cars in other countries but they don't care about India. They kept replacing the yolk screw and rubber on my expense every 2k km but that didn't solve the problem. After some time, EPS motor also went out which cost me 30k. i10 was the shittiest car I owned after Tata sumo in 2005
A great video again❤️
I have recently changed all suspension component of my vento diesel excluding tie rod end and steering ball joint there is big noise feels in pothole and jerk on steering what should i do
Sir steering rack preload adjustment ki video hai channel pe wo dekh lijiye ek bar
Thank homie..👍🏽
Thanks will definitely try this my polo 6 had the same noise last year and bought another steering rack and now same noise started again.
For even better results you can go for lubricating the rack as well with help of high temp. Grease along with this adjustment 👍
@@yourDIYneeds pls show in video
Newbie polo sedan from Malaysia
Sure will try to show the lubrication process
many thanks
I suppose, you got me closer to a solution 🙏 got hit a hole on road, vibrations on steering wheel appeared, but everything seems perfect. 🙏🙏🙏
Nice. Thankyou from England. Subscribing now
Thankyou sir 🙂
I did spend 15k for a new one. But it had gone really bad. There was so much clunking in potholes, vibration while braking. Mine was changed at 135000 kms. Will do this for my friends polo. Thanks ✌
Which car?
VW VENTO TDI
My Hyundai elantra is doing the same noise, I will definitely try this
Go ahead sir
Useful
Paaji very informative one was really waiting for a video on steering ... Thanks for information.. Paaji good to see u again 😊
Thanks alot sir 🙂
@@yourDIYneeds paaji Question & Answer sessions kab hoga ? waiting for this 😬
Paaji jaldi hi hoga 100 videos cross ho gai hai and 1 video hi hai Q&A ki .soch raha tha ki ek or to banti hai
Nice
Hello brother, my polo gt tdi has the same issue when moving the steering left and right. The rack is only 5 months old, can it be the lower part of the steering column, the steering shaft? because the noise can be heard only on low speed and uneven roads.
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Hello,
Is this can be done in passat b7 (2013) model ? Please suggest.
Is this ajdustments for audi a3 also?
Thanku mate.
@yourDIYneeds yes ji. Thanku. Since many months I'm thinking of mailing u for choosing tolls for DIY jobs but couldn't. Im aware that you possess complete kit of socket & wrench of taparia along with torx & spline set from force. Wrenches & spanners too.😊.
With your experience, now would u also suggest us to buy all these for all the jobs that you carried out on polo/skoda! Or something like that ji.. thoda suggest kijiye jara.
U didn't reply for this😊. Now asking for your suggestion mate
Sir a decent tool kit with have torx and spline is essential if you are working on vw group cars as they use those kind of drives very often along with that a general set of sockets like , 10 , 12, 13,14,16,17,18,19,21,32 will do the work almost all of it from suspension to oil change everything
@@yourDIYneeds 🤝ku very much ji
Hi, Thank you for the very valuable information shared. I am facing similar issue, while turning slight left or right, the steering gets little tight(gets a tak tak noise). VW service guys are telling to replace Column and Rack, is it so?. Looking forward for your reply...
Sir just lubricate the rack first and then adjust the preload on rack and noise will go away
Both videos are available for reference
@@yourDIYneeds Yes Sir, saw both of your videos, will try that and update you!!!
@@ContactPrasad did you try it??
I have a similar sound in my Kia when lightly turning the wheel, or constantly when just rolling/driving at slow speeds, and even use of brakes will occasionally make the clunk sound. These things could also be caused by excessive movement within the rack? 3 different mechanics tell me different things, I’m frustrated that somehow nobody knows what’s wrong with the car but every day I am stressed out over this constant knocking, happening with any impact or movement with the car at all - even getting in and sitting in the seat it will knock from my weight moving the car!
Sir it seems like a control arm bush to me , because it even knocks with you weight .
Kia सबसे बकवास गाड़ी है
Hi..i face this issue on stagnant vehicle plus when it goes on breaker there is an abnormal sound , like something is loose in the front..car is 1 yr old..service center said its normal sound..pls gelp
Seems to be my issue. All of the front end as been rebuilt on my 2013 Jetta tdi. Balljoints top plate bushing inner and outter tie rods the u-joints in the streering colum are ok. The only thing left is the rack. I hope this fixe it as I don't want to drop the subframe and replace the rack since i'm looking to sell it soon for a newer tiguan.
Did it fix it ?
@@mikemarin4793 nah, a rusted steel bolt in an aluminum casing. Stupid engineers. I ended Up changing the whole steering rack.
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Could this adjustment be done on a Nissan Armada? I have excessive steering wheel movement when hitting bumps/uneven surfaces along with the clunking sound. Although there is no clunking when turning the wheel.
Yes sir , almost every vehicle with a steering rack setup has this adjustment
Before you started all this did you check the power steering fluid, it may be the power steering pump
Sir its electro mechanical power steering system , not hydraulic
@yourDIYneeds does this fix a rhythmic vibration I feel when turning my wheel going over 40mph?
Yes it will help
Hello! I am having a similar issue as you with my VW Ameo. It is under extended warranty. However, the 3rd party warranty provider (Bajaj) is refusing to honor the warranty for the rack stating that the noise is mild and unable to be captured by their camera. The service center acknowledged the issue, lubricated and adjusted the rack, but slight noise is still occuring. Any suggestions? Thank you.
Sir lubrication and adjustment of yolk is the best option
Hi bro , on which direction I should move the nut clock wise or anti clockwise to tighten the bolt ?
Sir clockwise
Hello friend, thanks for the video.
I just wanted to ask if you think this would be worth doing if the noise mostly feels like it's coming from vertical play in the rack instead of horizontal like in the video.
Thank you so much and keep safe!
Sir sadly vertical play is not fixable by this , for that we have to change the rack
@@yourDIYneeds Thank you friend! Time to import one from Aliexpress to the Philippines then 😅
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Very informative! Is the procedure same for Skoda laura ? And how long does this solution last ?
Yes sir , its same for skoda as well , its still going fine for me , my odo is on 1,10,000 now
@@yourDIYneeds do you mean on laura too? Coz laura and rapid/polo steering rack designs are different right
Yes sir they are different , but the basic construction of every steering requires a yolk adjustment , the only difference is that some racks has one yolk to adjust and some have two
experiencing the same issue on a w204, it's an electric steering rack. I'll go check if this can be done on w204
Sir every steering rack has a preload , which allows for adjustment
@@yourDIYneeds Thanks for confirmation will definitely have a look at it.
Hi, very nice videos! Could you help me? I have a problem with my VW Sharan 2017. When it is cold the steering wheel is sticking until the car warms up. After the car is warmed up it is not doing this. It is sticking only when I am turning it slowly (long corner) when I am turning quickly it does not do this. There is no fault in the control unit, no weird sound and even Lane assist is working 100%. Do you know what it could be? Thank you!
Sir , most probably your steering rack needs new lubrication , in colder climate grease is much more sticky and hard to work with as compared hot climates , as your engines heats up , your steering rack also get a little warm due to proximity to the engine . And grease inside the rack become more easy to work with . I already have a video on steering rack lubrication on my channel , you can use that as an reference , here is the link .
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@@yourDIYneeds Hi!
Thank you for your quick reply. I saw it, I will try it and see if it helps. Thank you
Hello friend, I also happen to have this German Ghodi, 1.2 TDI, 2012. I located the place however its not 19 size bolt but with some kind of rubber on it. And It seemed small, I could fit a 13 bit but no movement either clockwise or anticlockwise. I have exactly the same issue. what to do?
Sir bolt size may vary , but the function is same
If the threads are seized then you can spray a little bit of thread penetrating fluid , it may help
Did you try silicon spray near the foot well where the rack joins? does the mk7 also have adjustable yolk
Sir every steering rack has a yolk adjustment , be it mechanical or electrical .
@@yourDIYneeds thank you interesting to know
Sir pls make video on ac cleaning
Sir , there is already a video on ac fan cleaning , its on the channel
have this similar problem. search a lot on the internet and i think it is the bushing on the steering rack not the preload. maybe im wrong, but i guess i'll stick by replacing the bushing on the steering rack. bushing on steering rack has lifetime in it , it's not a permanent parts it needs to be replace for couple of years using a car.
Sir my car did not had any sort of bushings
Great vid. I have the same noise and when I adjusted it fully tight it still did not get rid of this noise is my steering rack just bad because it moves the wheels fine with minor touches.
Sir check the ball joints of the steering system , maybe it's not the steering rack
Did you find what it was in the end?
@@cruiseedwards4657 it’s the rack I guess this noise is normal for the age. It steers fine still.
Bro, you are awesome. I have skoda rapid and i have been able to solve most of the problems watching your video. i have got a new problem, black smoke under hard acceleration. I cleaned, Air flow sensor and boost pressure sensor, changed the fuel station and also used Liqui moly super diesel additive, but still the problem persists. it did not show any fault code on VCDS as well. skoda service center asked to use diesel additive. but it did not help. Do you think of any other issue causing this problem. My vehicle is 1.6TDI and clocked 1 lakh kms till date.
Sir an intake manifold cleaning along with intercooler cleaning is what you need
Black smoke can be cause due to 3 reason
1 . Low quality fuel
2. Intercooler filled with engine oil which gets deposited inside by oil vapours
3 . And that same vapour creates carbon crusting inside intake manifold.
And if you are going to clean these parts then there is also one anti shudder valve in between intercooler and intake , with 5-10 mins extra you should clean that as well
Important note . Diesel cars usually emit black smoke in cold weather more than hot climate just due to the fact that combustion chamber remains much colder in winters as compared to summers.
Hope it helps 👍
@@yourDIYneeds Sure, I'll do these steps. do you have any guide or video on how to remove front bumper to remove the intercooler?
You don't need to remove bumper sir . 😅
I have video on all three of those topics on my channel
@@yourDIYneeds i saw it, but for better cleaning i felt removing the inter cooler completely is good, also what is your name? :)
I hear something like that with mine but it’s only in reverse going slow and turning can that be it?
Most probably a bad control arm bush
I have this noise on my mk4 golf would it be the same issue as this? Thanks! 👍
Yes , in 99% of scenario its going to be the problem ,
For better results just lube the steering rack before adjusting the preload
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Sir.. I have a hard steering in my 2015 vento.. there is no noise observed just the steering is hard when in turn left and right..
Few say the tyre is an issue and few say steering is gone... But there is no noise at all from steering just the steering is not smooth compared to other ventos... Will this fix in the video help?
If the power steering motor is in good condition then you can try loosening the yolk screw , it will definately help . Kind of trial and error because you have to do minor adjustments 3-4 times to get the perfect balance for smoothness and it doesn't make noise .
My steering is hard and wont center at low speeds, the rack is new. Will loosening it return it to normal? My old rack was a lot lighter.
Yes , if castor and camber are correct then yes it it will .
@@yourDIYneeds thank you
Volkswagen told me that rack is damaged and asked 13k for replacement. I knew they were fooling me. I denied them and saved my money.
Same for me too, about a week ago. The made an estimate of 90k for a bunch of things that suddenly got bad when the car was not even driven due to the lockdown.
@@tarun9542 90k that’s crazy talk
Sir , always remember , they are business first , they will try to trap you in excessive billing , lockdown was a tough time for them too 😅😅
90k rupees he means
If volkswagen dealers was a doctor belike:
Me : sir, I have headache.
Volkswagen dealers : just replace the head.
Hello. Is it necessary to adjust it on both sides or is it present at just one place.
Sir on polo vento and rapid its on just one side , but in audi models and some skoda its present on both sides
I am also facing this issue from the past one year and I am always worrying whether it ll create any problem while driving with family. I don't any local repair shops in Chennai, So I made a appointment for tomorrow to change the rack in VW showroom. @yourDIYneeds Bro Please advice me whether can I change the rack?
Sir , you can have a try by doing this , if it resolves your problem then what is the need of changing the rack .
Hi, i have same problem on my passat b8 2018, can i do the same like you?
Yes sir
Hi, is the same for Electronic rack? Like Golf 7
Yes sir , its the same , i also did it on an electric rack
Have same noise on my Mk5 2008 gti edition 30 and noise while turn like a popping, tried to locate this nut but without success
Any help appreciated
Sir sometimes this preload gets behind the bolting location of the front subframe so check behind the subframe .
Bro my fiesta 1.4 also have this problem
Steering have little play and some amount of sensitivity in when going over rough road
Does fiesta have the adjustment nut
Sir every steering rack on every vehicle on this planet has a preload adjustment , some have on back side , some in front , some are in easy reach , some are little difficulty , but every vehicle has a preload adjustment.
@@yourDIYneeds thank you so much brother, will check it👍
My polo steering has became harder....I don't feel like it's power steering anymore what issue is it ?
Sir have to check before saying anything
hI, ITS eléctric your power strering Rack? I have the same noise, but with Audi A3 8p 😔
Yes , its electric sir , process is same for audi as well
Good morning, does the steering rack affect the loss of speed ?
Sir can you please elaborate on the problem which you are facing , i am unable to judge, what you are trying to ask !
This video seems very helpful i was wondering if my preload screw would be on the opposite side because my car is left hand drive? i believe your preload screw was on the right side, so im assuming mine would be on the left?
Yes sir , you are right
@@yourDIYneeds awesome thank you
just wanted to check is it ok to jump.out of the car window when the window is fully closed
Where its located on seat leon i have the same sound ?
Sir exactly the same , seat , vw and skoda are almost identical
Hello sir vw polo my steering rack noise I m confused oem vs Rane and oem supply manufacturers Rane
Sir anyone which you think will be ok , as both of them comes from same manufacturer
I had replace rack but after one months its again doing noise by moving steering or in uneven roads
Suggest me something .... ?
Sir even new rack sometimes need yolk adjustment , just get the yolk a little tight , just a little , you may have to do it 3-4 times to have it in the perfect place where the steering is lite and that too without noise .
@@yourDIYneeds ahan ok ... i will try your advice
This is very similar to a Jeep Patriot/compass rack and pinion
You should have removed the bolt completely and apply grease to the thrust adaptor.
Same problem in my ignis
Hey. Did you hear a noise while driving down the road?
Sir noise shown in video is only audible when it goes over bumps and now it's totally gone
Hi, i have a polo 2017 comfortline, even i got the same problem now it has done only 40k in 4 years should i replace or what?
Sir just lubricate the steering rack and perform this preload adjustment , videos for both things are on channel , its not a problem , it just needs adjustment
Okay thank you
I just get sounds at different road surfaces and low speeds. Do u think it could be the inner tie rod cause I have changed all the control arms and tie rod ends.
You may want to have a look at another video , of caliper pins and rotors , if the noise is same , then thats your solution
@@yourDIYneeds thanks for your response. I used a repair kit and changed rubber boots and pins on caliper. The sound I'm getting is something like a clunking sound when I return to the right some times and when going at low speeds on uneven roads. One mechanic informed me to change the entire rack without checking the inner tie rod. Since it's a huge cost, I'm suspecting that it could be the inner rods since they haven't been changed. Also on the steering wheel I don't get any vibrations or other sounds when I turn left or right and it is smooth as well.
Sir then i would suggest to to get your shock mounts checked , as inner tie rods usually don't make any kind of noise when they get loose , your ride just become a little wobbly .
And also check the plastic fender liners inside the wheel well , it happed with me and it almost drove me crazy for 2 yrs till the time i actually found it and then laughed .
The sway bar on bumps was making contact with the plastic liner resulting in a hard sound .
@@yourDIYneeds got the shock mounts changed month ago as well 🙂. This noise is driving me crazy, I will check the plastic guards one more time as well. Last resort would be then I guess to change the steering rack as you told the inner tie rod wouldn't make any noise as such.
Yes check the liners once before you spend , you may have the same problem i had
Can we fit old steering airbag into new upgraded steering of polo?
Sir that totally depends upon the electrical connector and mounting screws .
🙏 Thank you
I have changed al shock parts lower arm , link rod . tie end rod
Evrything except steering rack
Some.sound thud sound in uneven road
Do same process sir
@@yourDIYneeds steering rack relpaced 20,000 kms ago . Is it advisable to change or tight
Sir , even the new rack calls for a preload adjustment
My mechanic had tightened the screw of my honda, the sound from the rack gone. But the steering wheel became tight. Is the steering wheel becomes lighter and smoother after certain use. The mechanic had told me that it becomes loose and normal after some use. Kindly make a reply
No sir , he had done it too much , have to make it a little loose .
Hello brother good evening , I m having 2017 vento , I m feeling that steering wheel little bit tight , what could be the reason and if any problems means what I hv to do ? Pls
Sir do you have any kind of lights of warning lights on cluster ?
@@yourDIYneeds no brother no warning
Get your steering rack checked
When I turn my steering wheel left to right it’s squeaks, and when I go over bumps it’s squeaks as well. Has new struts, and all new suspension. Could it be the rack ?
Swapped the strut bearings ?
@@yourDIYneeds we changed the two front struts with new ones
Sir you changed the struts but did you change the bearings on top ?
Hello, I am having same problem, I have changed steering rack last week , I also changed the steering cross still this noise is there. My mechanic tried with this screw adjustment also but can't get over it. What can be the issue?
Sir it works best with steering rack lubrication ,
But just in case if this doesn't work to eradicate the noise then changing the rack was the best thing because chances are that rack gears was worn , there was free play in between the gears
@@yourDIYneeds I changed the rack but still probelm is there
Sir then it was nit rack ! , What kind of noise it is ? Like , metal to metal or metal to plastic
@@yourDIYneeds metal to metal, I also changed the steering column cross, got it from used market , if my car put on jack then no noise is coming but if I remove the jack then noise is there
Hello sir, there was issue with new rack. I got it replaced from manufacturer. Thanks for your help and time
Does driving with that "tak tak" sound for long will cause any harm to steering column or rack or suspensions ?
Very minimal , but its good to get it fixed
@@yourDIYneedsthanks a lot for reply ! Anyway to connect with you ?
Sir everydaydiyhelp@gmail.com
Bro i have same issue with punto do punto has same mechanism
Sir Punto has a hydraulic power steering system , so just be extra cautious when rotating the yolk adjustment
Can this cause vibration in the steering wheel or small pull on uneven road?
No sir , it will not induce any kind of vibration
@@yourDIYneeds Thank you
Hi. My suspension makes rubbing noise when I go over humps. Local mechanic told me it's due to stabilizer bush gone bad. Can u suggest place in Bangalore where I can get genuine spare of Skoda or VW
Sir i reside in Delhi , don't know much about Bangalore
@@yourDIYneeds OK
@@yourDIYneeds Hi got the noise sorted out. turns out the engine mount had gone kaput on the driver side.
Video intro animation video is too loud. Can u lower it to same as remaining video . Requires frequent volume changes
Sure