Can this possibly work?!? FSR 3 Frame Gen and AFMF stacking tested!
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- FSR 3 Frame generation can (almost) double your framerate but requires game integration. AMD’s experimental AMD Fluid Motion Frames (AFMF), which is only currently available as a preview through a preview driver, and only for RX 7000 series GPUs, can also (almost) double your framerate. But AFMF works at the driver level and so it can be applied to any DX11 or DX12 based game. However, AFMF has downsides to quality due to not having as much access to game data like motion vectors, which an FSR 3 implementation would have access to. But in my comments sections I have seen people saying that you can apply both FSR 3 Frame Generation and AFMF at the same time to get a 2x2=4 effect on your framerate. I have doubts about the effectiveness of feeding already interpolated frames from FSR3 into a further (and lower quality) interpolation. In this video we put this idea to the test.
Link to preview driver (requires RX 7000 GPU): www.amd.com/en...
Links to more info about FSR3: gpuopen.com/fs...
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I'm curious if any of you have tried using both at the same time, and how you felt about the results? Especially on monitors with an even higher refresh rate so you could start from a higher base without going past the monitor's limit.
Link to preview driver (requires RX 7000 GPU): www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-23-30-afmf-tech-preview
Links to more info about FSR3: gpuopen.com/fsr3-in-games-technical-details/
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I was telling you in comments on another vid to do both these methods others were doing it
yeah, its surprisingly not terrible
05:50 bruh u can just edit it and zoom in using Adobe Premiere or any other editing programs; it's easy. I can do it voluntarily. Or do u not really have much time because u have a full-time job as a teacher?
Do you think Nvidia is developing software that would help users render videos at a higher framerate while the program consumes bandwidth to generate frames?
I think this would be the most useful place where AI generated FPS will be very strong at.
Please check games with disabled vsync in game but enabled enhanced sync(AMD control panel driver) or Fast Sync(Nvidia Control Panel).
Now try:FSR Upscaling + Frame Gen + AFMF + Radeon Boost for 16 times the frames!
1/16 times the details!
*Todd Howard awakens from his slumber*
Plus RTX frame generation :)
@@eyescreamsandwitch52 how dare you speak about god Howard like that.(this is a joke)
although i am enjoying starfield
Only if I can enable the TV's built in interpolation as well.
thank you for all your videos Owen
You should look at individual frames to see if there are changes or if we have duplicates.
8 FPS X 3 = 24FPS "The legendary cinematic experience.
Man I can't wait till 4k video games becomes a pixilated upscale of 480p and 200ms delay to get 60 fps...instead of devs just optimizing their games.
Literally my thoughts on a comment
Mfw PS5 Pro/Xbox Series XXX come out advertising HFR and this is how they achieve that.
There's nothing like 720p upscaled to 4K with 2/3 of the frames being interpolated, multiple real-time color space and tone curve/EETF conversions (hello, Sony) and the resulting latency surpassing 100 ms.
The future of gaming! 🤩
@@juanblanco7898it's all up to the software
Apt hyperbole is always funny to me 😂
But higher fps ! It's much more important than having normal latency.
*50 years later*
Wow this game runs so well I'm getting 2000 fps using FSR69 with a whopping 3 minutes of input latency
😂😂😂
Homeopathy in its purest form. Dilute the substance. Then dilute it again and again and again... Until you get the purest gaming experience.
Upscaled to 124k from a 120p resolution
That's a recording, not rendering anymore😂
Half the video with "native AA" activated (that everyone said doenst add up smoothness on all vids) repeating its terrible trough the whole vid, and repeating the work documentation too.... yeah dont comment about that native AA activate till min 10 of course, and dont comment how it lags anyways and center on the mess, man this guy tryhards the flame too much.
and 4k 25 fps that ofc is already said it laggs everything and vsync bugged, this guy knows how to troll hard.
After 4 beers my fps is quadrupled
4 beers will also automatically enable motion blur. 😂
That's like applying disk compaction on floppy disks many times on windows 95/98 back in the days
That just gave me flashbacks. They're not good flashbacks :P
Hmm. DoubleSpace and similar should actually be quite good by now. The primary problem, back when, was how CPU (and RAM) limits made compression and decompression infinitely slow. On many modern systems, especially those with a S-ATA SSD, the primary bottleneck is the buswidth and drive speed, not the system (CPU + RAM) itself.
Compressing data to be stored would actually make it faster to store and retrieve information, and the compression/decompression overhead would probably be undetectable on a modern computer.
Doing it multiple times would, of course, still be redundant and potentially (depending on implementation) broken.
Half the video with "native AA" activated (that everyone said doenst add up smoothness on all vids) repeating its terrible trough the whole vid, and repeating the work documentation too.... yeah dont comment about that native AA activate till min 10 of course, and dont comment how it lags anyways and center on the mess, man this guy tryhards the flame too much.
and 4k 25 fps that ofc is already said it laggs everything.
Yeah, they're definitely not designed to be turned on at the same time, but it's kinda fun to experiment with regardless.
Half the video with "native AA" activated (that everyone said doenst add up smoothness on all vids) repeating its terrible trough the whole vid, and repeating the work documentation too.... yeah dont comment about that native AA activate till min 10 of course, and dont comment how it lags anyways and center on the mess, man this guy tryhards the flame too much.
and 4k 25 fps that ofc is already said it laggs everything and vsync bugged, this guy knows how to troll hard.
I wasn't even sure it would work to begin with.
Can’t wait till modders enable everything together so we can get dlss upscaling + fsr upscaling + rsr upscaling + fsr frame gen + dlss frame gen + fluid motion frames
& knuckles
@@TheGreatTavefeaturing dante from devil may cry series
@@ДарийФедореев-э7тnew funky kong mode
Ah yes, time to interpolate some Sega Genesis games to 4k 360 FPS.
@@TheGreatTave😭
Just a note some steps are being missed here, for these drivers you are supposed to go into the amd games menu to open the game and it will allow you to toggle hyper rx and that sets the game correctly. From there you set the in game settings to fsr3 quality and turn on frame gen while turning off vsync. Also unfortunately hdr has to be deactivated in windows. I know its a lot of steps but it makes it run much cleaner. Also note all games must be run in fullscreen to activate fluid motion.
Nothing like 100fps that feel like 10fps, pretty cool idea tho
Half the video with "native AA" activated (that everyone said doenst add up smoothness on all vids) repeating its terrible trough the whole vid, and repeating the work documentation too.... yeah dont comment about that native AA activate till min 10 of course, and dont comment how it lags anyways and center on the mess, man this guy tryhards the flame too much.
and 4k 25 fps that ofc is already said it laggs everything and vsync bugged, this guy knows how to troll hard.
I tested forspoken on a 4090 with native aa and fsr 3. I got really good results, im very impressed.
Whats wronf with selectinf native aa?
@@branchprediction9923
FSR3 doesn’t apply if you have native AA selected, at least in forspoken(haven’t tried immortals of aveum). You have to choose an FSR upscaling mode of quality or lower and also enable vsync for it to work.
@@-Burb It does work bro. I tested yesterday and just now aswell. In my experience, fsr 3 works best with an fps limit, vrr and vsync tunred off. The frame pacing is nearly perfect! The artifacting is very well controlled and the latency is very acceptable for story mode/non competitive gaming.
But i think like Jackson said FG might be too heavy when generating a full native res frame. Tho for me it worked on a 4090 and 3440x1440 resolution.
It would be interesting to see AFMF on games that were originally capped to 30/60 fps like older console games on emulators. As the games aren't particularly demanding I would think it wouldn't effect the base framerate all that much.
I did that for years to transform the 30 fps most games on my PS4 Pro ran with into extremely smooth 120 fps with reduced motion blur using my TV's frame interpolation features (Philips calls it "Perfect Natural Motion" and "Perfect Clear Motion"). Wasn't perfect by any means (latency, artifacts), but in almost all cases _so much better_ than the original 30 fps.
@@NeovanGoththat's not frame interpolation btw, it is usually called Black frame insertion (OLED screens) or Backlight strobing (Non OLED screens) which briefly consists in adding a blackframe between the real frames showed on the tv, increasing perceived FPS
That's a old and amazing feature, but it is slowly dissapearing on monitors
@@PanchoGDMKWii No, black frame insertion is called "Fast Motion Clarity" on Philips TVs. What they call "Perfect Natural Motion" is actual frame interpolation (which improves fluidity), while "Perfect Clear Motion" adapts the amount of motion blur in the content to the shutter speed a real high frame rate video would have.
Also black frame insertion isn't meant to increase the perceived FPS, but to counter a type of motion blur that occurs on permanently lit (so-called "sample-and-hold") displays like LCDs and OLEDs. It's basically like a strobe-light effect that prevents the brain from perceiving what could be called an afterglow from previous frames, hence improving clarity at the expense of fluidity. Film projectors and CRTs had this effect out-of-the-box due to how they worked, and I guess this is why many people prefer it over the more stable image sample-and-hold displays provide by default.
you should probably be testing at 1440p or 1080p to start with a high base FPS, which will handle FG and AFMF better.
True but he was testing the limits of visual quality not pure performance
Frame generation is a very weird feature right now because the cons means no one will enable it.
High input lag means competitive gamers will never enable it
Visual artefacts and generally choppy experience means casual gamers probably won’t enable it
It’s one of those features that’s cool but doesn’t seem to lead anywhere, while the ai upscaling is amazing for everyone. DLSS is almost magical with the occasional artefacts
2 times 2 is 4, minus 1 equals 3 quick maffs
2026-27: Rx9900xtx OC needs to use FSR 5 + Fluid motion 3 + AI ray reconstruction 2 + TV interpolation + another AI BS just to scrape by for 1080p 90fps at ultra settings in 2026-27 AAA games.
thank you for your passion and your hard work, Appreciate all the new videos you make about FSR 3
Amd recommends a base framerate of 70 for 1440p and above for AFMF to work as intended so i'm not surprised you're getting alot of screen tearing here. When you get your base framerate higher, such as through enabling upscaling and maybe lowering one or two light/shadow related settings and then turn on in-game FG, setting you just neatly over 70fps, then the AFMF will work like a charm. It's a monster of a software thats for sure. It's not a fix-it-all obviously, but i can most certainly play titles at native 4K with 180+ FPS now thabks to it which is genuinely insane (tbf i have a 7900XT but my point still stands
True, I was messing with a 7900xtx all hopped up on water today and made it do some neat stuff and it actually looked really good, horsepower is definitely the key to this software.
Screen tearing shouldn't be connected to that though.
Could it be that running at 720p with a low fps is the input lag less?
Brutally underrated channel.
Stack FSR, FMF AND DLSS 3.5
You can raise the size of the text in video editing by using a second video track, cropping the same video on the second track, and raising the size to the desired size.
This is my base frames rate, not so good huh?
Now this... this is FSR3.
So what, you increases your frames rate, still not 60 yet.
You going to love this, trust me
And this, this is what is know as Fluid Motion ascended past FSR3 frames rate.
AND THIS... IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND.
No stop it, you will surpass the monitor refresh rate!!!
It unreal, how can he generated so much frames.
And this is AFMF at driver level. Sorry it took so much time. I didn't know it was possible before.
It shouldn't work, but I'll watch it.
OK. Watched it. I'm impressed that Interpolating interpolated frames didn't bug out and that while far from perfect, the image didn't look completely wrong. But I certainly wouldn't use it. Maybe on 500 Hz monitor, if I had base FPS of 150 and FG+AFMF went down to 125x4 and gave it 500 FPS.... because at that speed it would have decent latency. But imagining the burden on GPU makes my head hurt ;)
Wouldn't make sense even then, those kind of monitors are only used for competitive multiplayer games like cs go and visual artefacts/ghosting etc are unacceptable for such ppl.
@@Adrian-is6qn agreed
6:34 If 27 frames are the original, and in the end we get 87, because the rest are only artificially generated, then we actually only have an effect on 27 frames, the rest are just added cinema. Any number of generated frames could be added, so that it could be, say, 200fps or more. This technology only uses an illusion, unfortunately it does not render real frames! That's why I don't use the generated frame function, even though I could, but I don't!
In the AMD overlay, if you turn off the visual graphs and adjust the size %, the text will scale appropriately. Just a heads up on that, i use the overlay as well on my machine.
Daniel...What if you use RivaTuner to hard cap your fps to 120 all the time? Would that eliminate the weird pacing you feel when at 150+ generated fps?
I wanted to ask the same question, i think the tearing wil still be there though because GPU and monitor are out of sync due to VRR disabled. RivaTuner only throws away the additional frames. Im curious though if Radeon Chill can do the same.
Oh, this should be a fast run into weird issues
increasing text element scaling in windows display settings has a good chance of helping out with the overlay font
Ha that’s so cool they both worked together. I was thinking watching the start of the video if he gets that frame number up to 100 people are going to freak out. Too bad it has major drawbacks being used together. But we all knew it was too good to be true.
All the games I've tested with driver level fluid motion worked great and it was really rare for it to disable the fluid motion in movement. But I was also using gamepad. Seems like in the current state it's best tailored for gamepad users.
Ive been using lossless scaling with helldiver's 2 to do 60->180fps. It's fantastic. Highly recommended.
Since I'm the one who found tiis I will say this is almost useless on displays under 240hz, for multiple reasons; your framerate will probably be around that high with both on and secondly due to both latency & image quality penalties you need a high intial framerate. I also recommend doing it on games that support AL+ which I think most FSR 3 games will.
People that have done it with a base framerate of at least 90 said it felt fine, lower could potential feel fine if you're not latency sensitive, or higher if you are very sensitive, this is too subjective to quantify but this is a good start.
More interesting is how that game can be so demanding to run at just 20ish FPS? I dont see anything special visually here
He's playing at 4k i think
I think you need to get your GPU load lower before FSR 3.0 is going to have latency that you're happy with. You'll need some kind of frame limit. Playing with Forspoken, input latency is *lower* with FSR 3.0 FG enabled than DLSS 2.0 or native rendering if the GPU load was in the low 90% when I started, FG drops the GPU load to ~65% and drops the CPU load from ~40% to ~20% and input latency dramatically improves. You can't do this if the GPU is constantly pegged at 100%.
That doesn't make a lot of sense that gpu usage would be lower, there is more gpu work with FG on
@@Tcatracing Frame generation uses less resources than rendering. If you set a frame limit anywhere then the FG bumps that limit, it limits the max frame rate but it also lowers the system load dramatically.
On Forspoken it's worth cutting the CPU load in half vs using DLSS 2, which also helps with input latency. It is literally like playing a last gen game.
AMD says this frame generation its for minimum 50-60fps if you have below 50fps dont use FG
Edit: AMD advises maintaining at least 60 FPS before applying the frame generation feature.
What's the point of having a technology that disables itself when movement is involved? Should we play games without any motion at all?.... Like starring at a picture for hours with a gamepad in our hands....good job lmao
As I understand it, vsync needs to be enabled when using FSR3. Does this only apply to fsr3 frame generation or even without frame generation. in which case does vsync have to be activated?
Framegen-ception 😂
One woulda thonk AMD devs gonna disable FMF when it detect game already applied FSR3+FG, but they didn't, and thus make thing more interesting
was not expecting this to work at all, even though its a bad experience its pretty cool that it 'works' at all lol
btw idk if you have talked about it in older video but with AFMF you can go bypass fps cap in some game that lock the fps
people talk bad about DLSS when it cames out, but look where it is now.Lets all give some time and let it develope, im sure in some time this tech is going to be awesome .
Will be good to test on 60hz 144hz @plus monitors.Also tv is not actually monitor and they add extra lag even if turn off all their enhancing stuffs.
Pls try this with openGL triple buffering and turn off vsync
If a game has anti lag/reflex or whatever, turn it OFF at a driver level.
Digital Foundry seems to be lowkey snubbing FSR 3 potential thus thank you for making these great videos!
Digital Foundry is Nvidia's Marketing TH-cam Channel.
I'm sure DF will release a video when it's ready.
@@CrashBashL DF has released their findings and proved the frame time issues basically all users are seeing in MSI afterburner are not a logging bug but an actual issue with FSR FG
@@Tcatracing And what about it?!
In general DF is an Nvidia dick riding team.
Alex is stressing people enough by saying that the RTX 4090 is a good value.
Excuse me ?!
quad the frames per second; quad the latency time 😅
Ah yes, Amd Free Magical Frames 🤑
Good video, a fun experiment to watch, I'm a 6800 XT user so I cannot get stuck in and test it out myself, a pity.
Its out now for 6000 series fo try it
I already use a similar trick to play game that have FSR include, you can couple it with radeon super resolution (RSR) in AMD software. RSR ask you to lower your fullscreen resolution in game then upscale it, next, you enable FSR in game. The result is a fuzzy but way softer than using only FSR in performance mode and just run better.
It’s wild that this is the games it chose to showcase the tech on
AMD can't see the future, probably the pitch was interesting, as this was the first 3rd party title announced using UE5, and AMD thought it would a good fit for FSR3.
The same way that Nvidia didn't really know what CP77 2.0 was going to be, yet they chose to use that as the test lab for path tracing.
@@TheShitpostExperience that’s an corp slanted take. Unless they are AMD titles I say it highly unlikely. Following your line of thinking what better title that ran like shit that is an AMD sponsored title? That’s right Jedi survivor would have been an home run..
@@gaurd3 Is this really all you took from that comment? Talk about hating for the sake of hating...
Even tho this video is 60fps, at least stats for nerds says its 4k 60 encoded. Your tv never looked above 30fps for 1 second and didnt look smooth one time with generated frames. The MASSIVE difference between just using FSR vs frame gen for smoothness at 14:15 makes it look like AMDs framegen is totally unusable based on this video.
Please Test AC Mirage like you do! 👈👈👈
This seems stupid, I love it!
I can't test this but I would use these technologies to reduce power usage (fsr). Capping to 118 fps meanwhile reducing load on the gpu.
Bruh what is going on with these thumbnails
Here's an interesting experiment, it may do nothing, but still. Whenever I've had 2 graphics cards in one system, whether that be onboard Intel-iGPU + nVidia GTX 1080 under windows, or 2 AMD GPUs in one machine (RX 590 + RX 6650 XT) under Linux, I've gotten the option to plug my monitor/TV into either "card's" output, yet could choose to run apps on the other card but still display on my screen. Occasionally this would have a slight latency penalty, more so if both "cards" were in use, but otherwise it worked.
So this had me wondering, if you had a 7000 series AMD GPU connected to the display, but had a 40-series RTX card actually rendering the game, could you DLSS 3 Framegen + AFMF? If it worked that would likely be closer to 2x2=4 since the performance inneficiency of DLSS3 framegen is probably better since it's using independent AI cores and a separate motion processing core for DLSS3+FG, not the Async compute, and the 7000 series card would be idle so it's compute would be fully available for fluid motion frames.
This might not work if the AMD Driver-level features don't kick in if it's not actually rendering the game, and only presenting the result to the monitor, but if it did, reflex may still be possible as you are not using FSR3. Also this setup using a RTX 20/30 series card would let you use plain DLSS upscaling with AFMF instead of FSR3.
Obviously most people would never do this: have both a RTX and AMD 7000 card in the same machine, and leave one mostly idle... but it would be fun if it worked.
The problem is the source frames, in this case because the game has a Frame generation implementation is better to use that or disabled and use at driver level, the motion will never be soft because of the original source frames, Looks Amd's tech is very dependent on that
FSR 3 FG + DLSS 2 would be a wet dream.
sitting that close to a TV gives you glasses
Double it and give it to the next person
FSR 3.0 is not as fluid as DLSS3, the feeling is that the game still runs at 25fps in the case shown.
this could be alright with a really high base framerate and a 240+ Hz monitor. But interpolating already interpolated frames just can't be really good.
that's more than 2/3 of the frames fake!
The main problem with all these frame interpolation algorithms is they only work well when your frame rate is high enough to not need them in the first place.
Also, gamers who want stupidly high frame rates generally want them so they can react faster, but interpolation actually _increases_ latency, so I suspect this fad won't last long.
The really useful part of DLSS / FSR is the smart resampler (upscaler), that basically operates in 2D and can be much more optimised. Frame interpolation in 3D games can handle camera pans reasonably well, but any actual 3D motion (i.e., moving the camera, not just rotating it) is always going to run into problems with objects that are fully or partially covered in one of the source frames. To do it properly, it would need access to the source 3D data that isn't in the rendered image, but obviously if the card could process the 3D data faster, you'd get a higher (real, rendered) frame rate to begin with.
Higher fps(60+) makes the game look smoother. They specifically said that you need to have 55fps as a base to have a smooth experience and I think that's the whole point of this "fad" you're talking about and not about having more frames to react faster.
@@7thcode320 - There's nothing magical about 60 (or 55, for that matter), especially with variable sync screens. In games with faster motion you notice a bigger difference, in games with slower motion you notice it less. There's no universal value that applies to all games.
What's universal is that, the higher your base FPS, the better the interpolation works and the less likely it is that it will turn itself off during fast motion.(which is _precisely_ when people notice a "lack of smoothness" - not when they're moving or turning slowly).
But the higher your base frame rate is, the less need you have for interpolation in the first place.
So, interpolation works best when you don't need it and it's most likely to turn itself off (to avoid artefacts) precisely when you need it the most.
And, unlike resampling (whose lag can be brought down to nearly zero, with enough post-processing power), interpolation always introduces at least one frame's worth of lag, because the system needs to wait for the _next_ frame to be rendered to know what it's going to interpolate _to,_ whereas with interpolation turned off it can show you the frames as they're rendered.
It's mainly a way for manufacturers to quote a (nearly) 100% frame rate increase (in fact, they could pretend it's even higher by adding two or three interpolated frames between each real frame and the next) without offering a significantly improved experience when it matters (i.e., when you have a low frame rate to being with, or when you do fast moves and pans and notice a lack of smoothness).
We have a generation of overpriced cards that try to fake their own frame rates "in post". Hooray. 🙄
> The main problem with all these frame interpolation algorithms is they only work well when your frame rate is high enough to not need them in the first place.
That's only a temporary issue. Hopefully soon enough 240Hz, 360Hz, 480Hz, 500Hz, 1000Hz, ... becomes mainstream in pc gaming.
@@hastesoldat - Are you being sarcastic? You think you can notice the difference between 120 and 240 Hz in most games? Most people barely notice the difference between 60 and 120 (and the main benefit there is reduced latency (i.e., you see things slightly earlier), which interpolation makes _worse._
@@RFC3514 The main benefit is clearer motion. And it's not a subtle difference. Sometimes when I hear people like you I'm wondering if you live in alternate reality. Because the difference is so obvious to me, I notice it in less than a second when I move my mouse.
imagine FSR3 Frame Generation + Driver level FMF + ... the TV's own interpolation. getting that 60fps from that ~10fps. ;)
Just stop using ultra settings
The point is to fuck around with the settings he doesn't actually play like this.
wow that's an insane idea
too much talk and redundancy
Was literally wishing you'd done a video about this.
Thats hillarious! One "real" Frame and then 3 fake frames after that... But yeah, now we can clearly see some reconstuction artefacts. Maybe there is a reason for that not beeing official supported.
On the other hand, what about really high frame rates like 200+? Would we notice artefacts there?
Eventually FG will generate sframe in sync with your monitor. So for a 500hz monitor, it will generate 4 frames on a base rate of 100fps.
why didnt try disable vsync/free sync through AMD software, maybe its the game vsync and amd driver freesync conflicting the interpolation frames from amd driver to game drivers.
Lets add LS 2.2 X3 to it 😂.
I actually found AFMF 2 to be highly usable in Hogwarts Legacy. The game has pretty nasty 1% lows, so I capped the framerate to 71 fps, enabled AFMF 2 on it's highest settings (142 fps), and I think I prefer it to the 90 fps cap I was running before that.
No latency counter?
Each frame gen technology trying to describe what the real frame looks like from other generated frames. It's the blind leading the blind.
Try lock the FSR3+FG FPS to 40, then enable the FMF
Wouldn't that put him at 160 fps? His screen is 120hz.
@@routine8 the 40 is already with FG since native is 25, so locked at 40 with FG should be good with constant FPS, then enable the FMF to double it.
Do FSR on Quality and FSR Frame Gen and AFMF and HYPR-RX for best gaming experience with good fps
This all fine but if you perhaps buy cart that gonna cost lest sey 500 to 800 eur and you need ti fight with to get better FPS by tweaking settings , that is at least for me
ridicule to customer. I remember back in a day when carts like RX480 and RX 590 was really good at time plus price was perfect for what you get in return nowdays you got hole from pie insted of performance i just gonna keep mine palit jet stream oc rtx 3070 cuz in 1440p beat the rtx 4060ti in most tituls and only if 4060ti turn on frame gen if could keep up but never the less that thing give you more fps but feels mutch more stuterry and even making artefacts, overall i never switch to 40 series cuz nvidia literally robbed us with 20 series and later they do it with 30 series when they fucked with us in turms of frame gen only for 40 series and cant wait whats brings 50 series. But we know it cuz this is classic nvidia they dont compete with amd they just selling quality products but sometimes they lieing to us insted twlling truf. I know that my next cart gonna be 7900xtx for sure fuck the nvidia, now we just have to wait untill well AMD fix those damn mess what they call fsr 2.1 and actually give us the 3.1 god tier stuff i just hope its gonna be at least from 50% true what they claim.
Now try DLSS + FSR + 2XFG + AMFM + Radeon boost + NVIDIA reflex + AMD anti lag using dual GPUs
AMD!!!! See what you did? Now Owen's GPU comparisons will include up to 12 variations of the same GPU results (native, FSR 3, FSR 3 + FSR 2, DLSS + FSR 3...).
Because of you we will need a magnifiying glass to watch his videos!!!!
FSR2+ AFMF +FSR 2.1 +FSR 1.0 special upscale+ TV interpolation+ TV upscale +Radeon boost+ AMD rage mod => just w8 for 30 seconds and U can now unhook the PC and play the game on sole TV.
And you're god, thaanks! You didn't realize maybe but FS3 implemented in the game reduced from 24, 17% to 11% CPU use, this is pretty important to very old CPUs as mine because it means it would drastically help me. Specially when maybe your 20% means my 100% CPU.
420p game resolution
Lowest settings possible
FSR3 + AFMF
RX 7900xtx Overclocked
Oh the win scaling 4K woes. Have a lot of troubles on a pair of 27" 4Ks at work. To enlarge the fonts in the overlay, you have to set custom Windows scaling properties on the Radeon Control Panel Launcher executable. Right click on the executable -> Compatibility -> Change high DPI settings -> HIGH DPI scaling override ticked.
Then shut down the Radeon control panel app, and start it again through the executable you just set those properties on.
It works flawlessly in Forspoken!! Just turn off vsync in game and turn on FSR3 Quality + Frame Gen + in driver AMD Fluid Motion + AntiLag. You will quadruple your FPS and get crazy smoothness. Try it and you will see.
I thought of something... Your camera is totally getting a good 120FPS recording... TH-cam is missing half of that time resolution at 60FPS...
You could totally run clips slowed to 0.5x speed to illustrate stutters vs smoothness, so the TH-cam 60fps playback shows all the detail you've captured. (If you don't mind jumping from almost zero editing needed to some more substantial amount of editing needed, which is a little bit "oof" admittedly, but it's an option).
Probably should've tried 1440p since you're running a 7800xt. I'm guessing it would've been a much better feeling experience.
I just played lmmortals Of Aveum with fsr 3 frame generation on steam deck and it worked perfectly as long as I turned on framerate capping in gamescope, the capping in the game didn't work. 50fps and above felt decent. Setting everything to high except texture quality is low. Turn on gyroscope and set sensitivity to 50%.
You need to cap the framerate with riva tuner because the in-game capping doesn't work right.
i've tested fsr3 and even 120fps look to my eyes 48 fps, but with latency increase and bad weird looking graphics, in comparison with dlss 2 < 2222 ... i get 80 real frames with better visual than native 4k.
Anyone can tell me, dlss3 do the same mess, frametime, fps, graphics, latency? if yes, i go to 3080ti.
I've tested with 3060ti
But DLSS3 raises very well from 30-35 base frames, which in turn are generated using the DLSS2 upscaler. And all this is not bad even on the profile balance
Continue to buy old nvidia and amd ;) and then whine on the forums that the games are poorly optimized))))
I wonder. Is it possible to use this AMD Overlay Thing without being logged in to an AMD Account or something alike? Because Nvidia forces you to login if you want to use their Geforce Experience Spyware.
I wish I had a 144-Hz monitor to try frame generation, because on a 60-Hz monitor, frame generation is total crap. I feel the same. It doesn't improve anything; I only give fake frames and look blurry.
I wonder if it does anything or if the player just looks at the fps getting higher and thinks, Wow, this is great, but is it just a placebo effect?
Fsr 3 frame gen looks hopeful, fairly disappointed with AFMF, hope they allow you to maybe designate apps (e.g. crosshairs) to be excluded, and implement a database for HUD elements from various games.
Sounds bad in Theory, but if it works it'll be the Magnum Opus of Troll Physics.
From what I understand, for nvidia cards you need to permanently activate vsync from the control panel and also the low latency mode from the nvidia control panel... this leads to improvements in 120fps also with regards to lag as well as the fluidity of the image
The lag doesn’t improve, at least in a noticeable way when turning Ultra low latency mode…. It is not an optimal experience in Nvidia’s gpu YET.
Using adaptive sync industry open standard mitigates all the issues you speak of without being locked down to the limitations of proprietary vendor agnostic gimmicks.
@@leanlifter1 it doesn't mitigate anything.. it just works like that
@@MarsMarsTitan Industry wide open standards like Adaptive sync and HDR are the best tech because they just work without any of the down sides of proprietary software injection/huge driver update files that bog down the entire system. Plus Nvidia have not updated their control panel since 2003 and it's still a buggy mess and difficult to navigate for over 20 years.
Isn't 4x simply frame gen and performance uscaling???? Im pretty sure cyberpunk on my 4090 does 4x, ill check
Either you have a really crappy camera, crappy display or your camera is set to the wrong refresh rate (50/60hz). It's under Anti-binding or refresh rate. Hope it helps.
I’m the only u lucky guy that ties everything to make AFMF working and didn’t get anything good about it? It seems to not work at all… I tried downgrading and upgrading again, ddu, reinstalling it… it just doesn’t work on my 7900xt… any advice?
What if i use it with a OLED TV MOTION SMOOTHER X2 (Interpolation frames tv software), 2X2 = 4 X 2 = x8 FPS 💀💀