The original Pinocchio movie is already terrifying on its own right. The one with Lampwick turning into a donkey while screaming his mother as his donkey went insane, crashing everything down is disturbing enough.
@@SawyerAshIsMe When you were 3?? Who lets a 3yo watch a family movie that is 6+ at the very least? I don't think kids need to be shielded too much from dark stories, but a 3yo is a little too young to stray from toddler-friendly animations.
Well you know the whole analogy to that? Dick around too much in your life when you are young you pay for it when you're older when you make a jackass of yourself. Old before your time working dead-end jobs as the people who actually applied themselves get ahead.
My dad always took me to school and back as a kid to make sure I get there up until high school. When I go to high school he would have me wait in his car until the school bus showed up before leaving even when the bus stop was a block away from our house.
"I'm collecting stupid little boys and I take them to pleasure island" "Pleasure island?... But the law!" "They never come back... As boys" That shit hit different as an adult
For real like for one it’s called “pleasure island “ I think that just says enough right there ..! And also “they never come back as boys “ yeah I think we all know how that ends …..
I think the Pleasure Island subplot might have been the inspiration for Poppy Playtime: kids go some place they think will be fun only to be transformed into something else and sold like cattle.
To make it more family friendly, they removed all of the drinking and smoking references to candy and root beer, which makes it seem like the kids are being punished for doing childlike things. 🤦🏽♀️
Disney is so scared of those conservative family groups coming after them for not being “family friendly”, everything begins to looks bad. Girl Meets World is a perfect example. The plot and especially the dialogue was unbelievably hard to watch. I couldn’t get through the first episode after rewatching it several years later as an adult. They couldn’t even talk about serious topics like Boy Meets World did when it had more freedom on ABC.
I was just thinking this too! Although it would be pretty off putting seeing a bunch of real kids smoking in this movie, I liked how they did it in the original cartoon to show that these bad adult habits can lead to consequences, and by now showing the kids just having root beer and candy it takes away that theme/message :/
I mean, when children nowadays think of misbehaving, they don't usually mean smoking ciggars, but eating forbidden food such as candy. We're not in the 1940s anymore
I wish someone made a version of Pinocchio where the lying would play integral part in the story, and would get him in trouble, and when he told the truth, it would be resolved. Like a nice moral story for children, not a horror story for parents about the dangers of sending your kid to school alone...
When I was a kid, my brother and I rented out the live-action version of Pinocchio (The first one), and in that movie there actually IS a scene where his lying causes consequences. It actually also happens to be the scene where Pinocchio finds out that when he lies his nose grows, and I truly love it, because it freaks him out. So this scene actually takes place when he goes to school. When they're having class, a boy kicks Pinocchio in the leg to bully him, and Pinocchio, thinking it's a game, kicks him back. Except that it really hurts the boy, since Pinocchio is made out of wood. The teacher then comes over and asks Pinocchio what is going on. The other boy tells the teacher Pinocchio kicked him, after which Pinocchio panics and says it wasn't him. His nose then grows, to everyone (including Pinocchio's) shock. Noticing his nose grow makes Pinocchio get anxious and come up with excuses, and more lies about a man climbing in through window and kicking the boy, or that the boy kicked himself, etc. Each time his nose gets longer, Pinocchio gets more and more anxious, because he realizes everyone sees through his lies, and the teacher keeps getting angrier and angrier. His nose gets so long, though, that it touches the rag used to wipe chalk off the schoolboard (that the teacher was holding), which causes Pinocchio to sneeze, causing chalk to get all over the teacher's face. It then cuts to him getting kicked out of school, and him feeling genuine remorse over the humiliation he faced, and covering the teacher in chalk.
I hate how they basically removed the moral complications of Pinocchio's actions and choices making the point of Pinocchio being a morality tale completely worthless and leaving the story in and of itself a hollow husk of what it's supposed to be.
Not gonna lie, I knew this was about to happen. The original Disney movie showed the boys smoking and drinking alcohol and portrayed this as a bad thing. Nowadays if anyone ever dared to show that, Karens and snowflakes would completely lose their shit and try to cancel the movie for "promoting smoking and alcoholism".
To me it seems at very least a basic yet extreme story of stranger danger. They removed the blame from kids and emphasized how there are adults that will abuse kids. Instead of an influencer reference maybe they should have done an Epstein one 🤷
In Italy Pinocchio is a beloved tale, originally written by Carlo Collodi, set in Tuscany, and many Italian movies have been directed about it. But to me it is a real pity that in both Disney movies, the old one and the recent one (and also the recent Italian one) the last part of the story is cut off, while being the best part because it gives fullfillment. After returning home from their adventure with Monstro (from which they escape thanks to a talking tuna fish) Geppetto comes down with a fever and Pinocchio takes care of him. During the day he works in a farm in place of the farmer's donkey, that is sick and near to his death. Pinocchio recognizes him immediately, he's Lampwick (Lucignolo in Italian), and this brings to the heartbreaking scene of Lampwick's death (actually my favourite scene of the whole story because it is packed with emotions). Pinocchio is paid a little money and a warm glass of milk that he gives to his ill father, Geppetto, helping him heal. Moreover at night he studies for school. This is the moment in which he is rewarder by the Fata Turchina (Fairy Godmother) and is turned into a real boy. Not because of a single heroic selfless gesture, but with everyday hardwork, learning his lessons about life and honesty little by little, actually showing care towards his loved ones. That's why in my opinion the best pinocchio movie the Roberto Benigni one, the 2002 one. Or if you are curious you could also check out the older Italian Pinocchio movies that are visually quite scary but wonderful, like the Luigi Comencini six episode series "The adventures of Pinocchio" (1972) which is a classic.
Even as a kid, I always thought it was so weird that the kids in Pinocchio were essentially portrayed as evil (or at least bad enough to justify being turned into donkeys) when all they did was smoke and play pool. The fact in this one, all they did was drink soda and smash things they were told were okay to smash is just hilarious.
Ig it’s setting an example of like wat happens wen u don’t listen to ur Conscience n let it be ur guide and to be good , Disney was big on dat back den
Also pool/billiards was pretty exclusively a gambling game in the 40s, definitely not something they wanted kids playing. Today... billiards is still played that way some places, but it's also in a lot of casual fun places and isn't nearly as stigmatized. So even keeping that in it still doesn't have the significance it did in the original.
You know we've gone full meta when we won't even depict "bad" things like smoking or drinking on screen to teach why they're bad, because we don't want to show "bad" things on screen anymore. Because they're bad and we can't show bad things to kids. Like, how the hell are you supposed to have a moral to the story then?
@@hyfrchloe its the 1890s Italy, that's why. at least give context or make the fairy all blue and say it's a completely magical creature, not a glowing human.
I'll never forget the donkey scene from the original. The kid screaming to Pinocchio to help him while his hands turn into hooves, him crying to his mother until he starts braying... All of those kids shoved into small and crowded wooden boxes, waiting to be sent to mines, to the circus,... And probably some of them could have been sold for meat. None of them got a happy ending. None.
Oh my God yes! I remember skipping that part along with the Monstro. I completely forgot about the donkey scene until I came across it several years back and it was disturbing as hell 😳 To see the boys who went full donkey, crying, the kids who turned donkeys but still had their voices and Lampwick's scream for his mother while changing 😨
Something pretty sad: y'know the scene where Gepetto discovers Pinocchio went to Pleasure Island, it's sort of implied that he lost his son when he went to Pleasure Island, as he is openly horrified.
I wish they expanded a bit on this, because it’s an *actually* interesting addition to the original story. But you know Disney remakes can only fumble the bag 🙄
And in this scenario it basically means that yeah his original son might be still alive out there somewhere but is actually suffering a fate worse than death. Ouch.
Well, since Tom Hanks is in the film, the horror could be about Epsteins Island, when people discover he was a regular and once purchased a 13yr old girl.
I feel like taking the beer and smoking out of Pleasure Island was a bad decision because it was supposed to show that they were doing all of the wrong things and they could do what they want. They kind of took all of their lessons out lol
So, basically…they took out the moral dilemma Pinocchio has to deal with to become a real boy in exchange for making him this pure hero who is naïve with no other character trait but can do no wrong because hero and also that would take too much work…thus completely destroying the whole point of the movie. Yep, sounds about right for modern Disney.
For real, though. I don't get why they're so afraid to make flawed main characters. Pinocchio was perfectly likable as a naive innocent who makes bad choices.
The child trafficking, the donkey scene, and of course freaking Monstro. The scene where he pretended to close his eyes to trick the fish into thinking he was sleeping was creepy and don’t get me started on his sneezing. Not to mention how he could move as fast as a freaking freight train. Lord.
I believe the message from the 1940's scene was "A lie grows until it is as plain as the nose on your face." Which is honestly really good advice for little kids. So of course this version undercuts that and uses the nose growing gimmick to get him out 'cause of course "we can't have a fairy come and give him a get out of jail free card like the original, people will say that's just lazy writing".
It's the same with every remake, they completely misunderstand the message of their earlier work and try to "improve" it by having no message at all - or one that completely contradicts the good messages of the original.
On top of that, pleasure island was meant to tell kids that, hey, it’s actually not so great to drink and smoke, but by replacing it with root beer and candy the only threat is obesity? The whole movie just feels like the result of a big game of telephone, but instead of a sentence it’s the entirety of the first movie’s plot and themes
In the original cartoon the smoking and drinking were clearly framed as a _bad_ thing, and they were a corrupting influence on Pinocchio. Also I was getting big “come to our Disney theme parks” vibes from Pleasure Island, which made it _actually_ feel icky.
Yeah pleasure island the *child trafficking center* should not look *anything* like Disney’s theme parks or be in *any way* appealing. It’s like they’re showing kids a white van giving away free candy and then the van just gives the kid a ride to school. Like no, please stop romanticizing terrible crimes Disney. By taking out the bad, they are potentially hurting kids. Great.
"Pleasure" island? Arriving as boys, leaving as men? That's some nasty af pedo talk there, WTF...😶🧐 I never watched the whole original movie, kinda glad I didn't now. Ew.
@@evagarcia865 yes, and thats what pleasure island did in the original for the boys, while letting us, the audience, know its bad the whole time. In this movie it completely fails honestly.
The craziest thing is that in Walt Disney's will he didn't want any remakes of his original movies. They recently came across that and wasn't supposed to make anymore remakes and HERE WE ARE with a super creepy version on Pinocchio 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. It's just so sad that Disney the company isn't respecting Walt Disney final wish.
as a chronic cat owner, I can confirm that all cat owners talk to their cats like they're little people also I can't believe they decided Pinocchio is just medieval Astro Boy now
If you truly had cats, you'd know we don't own them. I don't like applying the term "own" to any living being, but cats are definitely not possessions. They're the bosses.
@@englishatheart as the saying goes: a dog sees us and thinks "this creature provides me with love, food and shelter. they must be God". a cat sees us and thinks "this creature provides me with love, food and shelter. I must be God"
Apparently in the original he drank actual beer, smoked a cigar, and loved smashing stuff. This is the flavorless, 'safe' version. All life drained out of it.
I believe the reason that everyone is suddenly making Pinocchio movies is that Disney lost the exclusive rights to the visual depiction of the character and it's gone to the public domain, since the original was so long ago and they didn't make a new one in time. The story itself was always public domain, but the visual representation was owned by Disney (I could rant for hours about the way Disney has fucked over public domain but plenty of TH-camrs have done it for me and better). Disney made the remake both because the usual "let's remake our movies but WORSE because MONEY" and also because they still want people to associate Pinocchio with Disney. Edit: To clarify, I'm not 100% sure on this explanation. It's one that I've seen passed around and I couldn't find anything concrete with my limited googling to say if it's true or not.
But that wouldn't explain why the others are making their Pinocchio remakes, since as far as I can tell those don't really take any visual cues from the Disney version. I think you're confusing a few different things. Disney didn't own the rights to the visual depiction of the character in general - they would the rights to _their own_ 1939 version of the character. And I can't find any source to back up the statement that that copyright expired. From some (admittedly dodgy) sources I can find online, their copyright would run out on their version of Pinnochio some time after 2036. I think what you're thinking of is the recent Winnie the Pooh horror flick, which was able to be made _precisely because_ the original work by A.A. Milne went into public domain, so Disney lost its exclusive rights to it. However, again, Disney still has the rights to its own original depiction of the character, which is why the character in the horror film couldn't have a solid red shirt.
@@mockturtlesuppe Hmmm... This isn't anything proven based on fact but just guesswork, however I feel like part of why there are Pinocchio remakes this year specifically is simply because of Del Toro's. It's been a known project of his since 2008 but it got shelved and then seemed done for good by 2017 until 2018 when Netflix had acquired the production. Part of the business game is that you're not above trying to rush out something just for the sake of stealing the limelight from someone else. Disney had already announced back in 2015 that they were planning to do a remake for Pinocchio, but it didn't have a confirmed slot on their upcoming slate. With the announcement of Del Toro's project being back on in 2018, I'm guessing they bumped up whatever development for a Pinocchio remake they had as a priority in order to try and cut off attention given to Del Toro's version. Probably had to complete some projects that were in the works already to do so fully though. The Russian version with Pauly Shore was just a bonus made to mooch off of the Pinocchio hype they knew would be happening because of the announcements of these productions. It reminds me of some of the releases that are made in Europe and Russia as a response to the trend of whatever Disney's releasing.
It is in free domain, or at least was. Once every 40 years things become free domain until it is reserved again. That's why there's a bunch of terrible tv remakes of old movies and why occasionally there is like 5 of the same movie released in the same year
I think they should have used a real puppet for Pinnochio and a male actor who's tall and red haired who looks like a fox. You're right anamorphic animals make no sense in this world.
They arguably didn't make sense in the original story either, but it's a fairytale with magic wish-granting fairies and a talking cricket, so it's forgivable.
Once again you don't get it because is the italian stories that all of you can't understand. Maybe you get this 'cause I know for sure even other countries use this word for this meaning, the fox symbolizes a person who wants to deceive you. when someone necessarily wants to be smart or wants to deceive you we say "oh you're being the fox?". And then it's a fairytale, what you expect?
Pinocchio's portrayal of child trafficking is terrifying but I guess its somewhat realistic once they have you there's no second chances or happy endings really... the boys who were sent of to slave away as donkey's forever probly never saw their families again. pretty traumatizing for a children's film but the message is strong.
Pinnochio, the original, was actually made during World War 2 and while the donkey scene happened in the book and Walt Disney happened to be following the book. I wonder if people back in the day thought about people at the Holocaust camps as well as the kids while watching that donkey scene. It completely breaks my heart and sends chills down my spine at the mere thought of it. :(
@@andreasmeelie1889 Pinocchio was wrapping up production by the time Germany invaded Poland and kicked off the war, and almost two years before American involvement. For that matter, the worst of the Holocaust was still a couple years in the future and the American public wouldn't grasp the full extent of the horrors until after the war. If anything, the choice of basing a movie around an Italian children's book is kinda interesting. Two years later, Disney would be producing anti-Italian propaganda.
It's even worse in the book: Lampwick/Candlewick gets sold to a farmer, and Pinocchio sees him again after he becomes a real boy and starts working for such farmer to support the ill Geppetto. And that's because Lampwick is dying from being overworked. "You know, for kids!" -That Guy With The Glasses
Walked in on my brother watching the pleasure island scene where the kid gets turned into a donkey, the way that child screams for help and for his momma, the way he runs around completely helpless mixing with the sounds of the donkey leaving him unable of human speech is actually terrifying and straight up almost made me, someone who never gets emotional about movies, straight up start bawling.
I'm gonna bet that the reason WHY this remake makes it so that Pinocchio doesn't do anything wrong or naughty is because they don't want kids to model his behavior and for parents to complain. However, it loses the entire point of the story in the process.
I honestly think Disney saw that two Pinocchio films were slated to release this year and went, "Wait, we haven't remade that one yet!" and pushed it out as fast as possible. Here's hoping the Del Toro Pinocchio is a masterpiece
I haven't seen anyone mention the weirdly intimate moment Pinocchio has with the ballerina doll. They literally gaze into each others eyes and it gave me the creeps because Pinocchio is a whole child. Just gave me weird vibes
I'm looking forward to the Del Torro version; that dude does not shy away from the dark/creepy/truly horrific elements of a story (and from what I understand, the OG story of Pinnochio got pretty dark).
Even if his version doesn't end up as dark as people expect it to be, I'd still appreciate a well-presented movie. Like, plot points and dialogue that actually make sense instead of "Chris Pine!" 😒
@@pedrovallefin8406 Pinocchio has no self-awareness though...it's a perfect way to break the fourth wall without outright telling the audience that they've just been insulted...well played Disney.
@@amberslahlize7961 me too i just saw everything wrong with mention it. i think the writers are passive aggresively trying to hint to the audience that they aren't allowed to take risks and make new content
The disney version is simple, the original tale is a series of bizarre and complicated misadventures that would have been far more interesting to watch. You know, instead of the badly abriged "live action" version they actualy did.
I’m not sure about most simple. As a kid I did not understand what was going on in Pinocchio at all. Why were they getting turned into donkeys? Where did this whale come from? I understand it easy now but as a kid I was lost. Other Disney movies like Snow White or sleeping beauty, I understood those fine though.
@@itsjustsophia11 didint he become a real boy in the last shot? if you watch his legs they turn into real ones while he's walking away. or maybe it was geppetto finally losing his mind idk
Lol yeah, I rewatched Pinocchio to compare the remake, and I noticed the lips and calling him a gypsy once, which was used in an offensive way back then. Funny, because I had recently watched Hunchback of Notre Dame too.
I think Pinocchio is being remade so much is because it’s an easy movie to be changed but still have the same morals. Like making certain scenes darker and others lighter.
I laughed so hard at the theory that Pinocchio grew up to be Prince Eric after becoming a real boy and shutting down pleasure island, then went into witness protection.
Don't know if Alex himself came up with it, but that joke about the guy having the age of consent of every country memorised made me cry laughing. That was far too funny XD
@seeni gzty Nope, he has the same moral problems ....the only differences is that you can see him learning from the experiences. Pinocchio is innocent and the idea that he was predispose to be evil and stupid ....was something that this one quickly switched out. I mean, he should have been tramutized by the first guy, but he got over it pretty quickly to be easily tricked by the next guy. I like this version better than the original.
The main problem with all these remakes is this: the beats are all there, but the rhythm is all off. When you compare scenes like Nala reuniting with Simba, the Donkey scene, Mulan's Decision, Belle in the West Wing, or even the Curse from Sleeping Beauty, you can tell the writers are TRYING to get that same UMPH but because the pacing is all off it just comes off as rushed and poorly executed. Pacing is everything in a film. The reason why the donkey scene and stampede are 10x better in the originals, is because of the buildup to the payoff. But the remakes just kind of fast forward to the payoff and thus the emotions are not there because they expect us to have already seen the original.
And that's why the remakes that kind of wandered off and did their own thing are considered the better remakes, like the Jungle Book. Either that or, like the case with Cinderella, you get people who are at least familiar with the tone the story should be going for because let's be real here, Kenneth Branagh's history as a Shakespearian Actor and background directing Medieval Historical Dramas make him kind of perfect for that movie. He gets that it's supposed to be grand.
I can’t help but think that the writers for this movie mixed up the original with Shrek 2 and thought that lying to get the key was how out of that cage
So Disney went from "Lying is wrong," to "Lying is good and gets you out of trouble." It's official, Disney has been taken over by kids in trenchcoats.
The remakes are so that the IP doesn't become public so Disney can keep profits from them. Disney can only own the IP for so long until it becomes public pretty much. So remakes will renew the licensing.
not sure chief. Pinocchio is already public domain as the og author has been dead over 100 years as with the other fairy tales hijacked by Disney. They cant own the story but their own individual creation. and each movie would be a separate entity. You guys, Disney can recognize a good story but totally cant create one without borrowing.
@Mush Mouf Keep In mind that most of the stories are public domain. It's the likeness of the character(s) that they need to keep. This is called copywrite. The story is irrelevant.
The original Disney animated version of Pinnochio scared me so much as a kid, I haven’t been able to watch it in full ever since. The entire second half of the movie is complete and utter nightmare fuel.
"Just to be clear; I'm not criticizing the scene in Lightyear. I'm saying that Disney has gotten very good at misdirecting people and controlling the discourse around itself in terms of what people seem to care about on any particular day." I legit laughed so hard during this whole video, but not any more than I did at this flash of text that I kept missing across the screen. Love the editing and insert here.
I will not forget that one part where Pinocchio's catching Gepetto up on everything in classic Disney fashion and he just goes, 'And we learned to DRINK-erm, I don't remember what it's called-' Imagine being a parent and your kid goes off and says he learned to drink
"Cause you know, back in the day people would just die if, like, the wind changed direction or something." - Alex Myers. That has got to be the greatest quote of all time.
It’s so strange making Pleasure Island “kid friendly” and for it to be full of stuff kids irl would enjoy like soda and candy. It just tells kids that enjoying those things are wrong while in the original film the message was clear.
I mean, who goes up to a kid and actively teach them smoking and drinking is bad? That’s not a real concern that parents have with children in today’s time. Smoking and drinking were much more prevalent in the 40s. It’s almost unheard of to see misbehaving children do those kinds of things. But eating excessive candy? That is a very genuine problem that we teach kids about today. So I don’t know, I see it as more of a reflection of changing times.
@@minisn3066 I mean, saying “no” to these things are still taught to children. Cigarette and alcohol consumption has declined over the years among the general population (which is wonderful) but, peer pressure still happens. Drug abuse still happens. It’s important for children to learn that partaking in these activities and running wild is wrong and has consequences. Never going home because you went overboard is a pretty good way to get the message across. I agree that overconsumption of unhealthy, sugary food is a concern for children as obesity rates are increasing in many countries but, idk. I think the 2022 Pleasure Island still plays it too safe and that the punishment doesn’t fit the “crime” in this version.
28% on Rotten Tomatoes “Visually dazzling but soulless, the largely inert Pinocchio reaffirms that you should always let your conscience be your guide… away from unnecessary remakes.” It took them since Friday to finally put up a verdict Just watch the animated movie again, after 82 years it’s still one of Disney’s best
@@merry_christmas yep, like this seriously didn’t need to be remade The Italian version (not del Toro) version is the one that comes closest to staying to the original book’s roots
I would love to see a Pinocchio movie with an alternate ending of Pinocchio being turned into a real human boy, tracking down and busting the child smuggling ring. Where afterwards he is put into witness protection as Eric from little mermaid.
"They're just hard for ideas i guess" no no, they're hard pressed for money. No one asked for these damn remakes lmao ESPECIALLY (as you know) Mulan lol
@@epsi yes that's the joke, they keep fucking everything up even though they have amazing IP's. They are losing money it's hilarious, these remakes are their attempts to keep there monopoly. Like how do you lose rights to your own character?
not to mention, pinnochio story isnt all that interesting. Like remake at least the interesting ones. Anywa, these remakes are hilarious to me. At the same time, money money money money.... mONAYY.
Lampwick turning into a donkey is scary to me in both 😨 The cgi didn't actually bother me too much and, given that I was almost convinced Disney would lighten up the movie by rescuing all the kids or something (which I was not down for), that scene legitimately shocked me. He had tears in his eyes and they still had him screaming for his Momma. He's never going to see his Momma again... On another note, I hope this is revealed to be Donkey's back story in the next shrek movie
The Monstro scene felt so anticlimatic when they went through the trouble of making him into a weird sea monster. I thought it was weird they tried to make it better including boys and girls on pleasure island. And the whole “magic tears to life” gave weird romantic feelings because they did that for tangled. Though Pinocchio doing the superhero pose made me laugh. Blue fairy didn’t do anything in this movie. She just gave the puppet life and just peaced out the rest of the film
@@shadowstrike2594 if they ran out of budget, it was all wasted on Pinocchio and basically the entire movie because the whole thing is CG lol in fact, the blue fairy would be easier and less cost effective to put in every scene than animating a toy doll the entire time
Disney are really ruining the classics, here… I’ll admit, there’s some of the newer Live Action remakes that are OK, some good even, but they really can’t recreate what made the old movies good
@@gracekim1998 That’s the other problem too… they gamble so much on Nostalgia because that’s what made the story’s so popular, but if they differ way too much from the story, it’ll feel like “This is just a whole new movie but with *classic name* slapped on it” to make a quick buck
I dunno, Tom Hanks was in this movie and I really liked his performance, along with Luke Evans, Joseph Gordon Levitt, Keegan Michael Key and Benjamin Evan Ainsworth's performances. You what they say, the movie isn't a flop if it has Tom Hanks in it.
This remake is terrible! There was so much potential and disney threw it out the window. I also feel that the scenes were rushed. If you havent seen the 1940 version it would be confusing to understand what is going on in the remake. It was so disappointing compared to the 1940 version
Disney's live action remakes even though they're technically a mix of live action and animation because CGI but whatever are about twice if not thrice the length of the original 2d films and yet they do next to nothing with the time given to them compared to what the originals accomplished with an hour or so.
What wud you expect from that remake that could work? I mean I already knew it was going to be a dumpster fire the second I saw a black woman in blue fairy
Yup, the whole donkey boy “I want my Mommy” “This one can still talk” * throws in a cage* I saw it once maybe twice when I was a kid and have not watched the movie since. But that entire event. It traumatized me.
The original Pinocchio was terrifying. I couldn't believe it was a kids' movie. Kids turn into donkeys and are taken away from their parents, a creepy guy tries to kill Pinnochio, and then he is eaten by a whale.
It wasn’t meant to be a kid’s movie. Back when the original Disney movies were coming out, they were just animated movies meant for the entire family. The fact that there were movies made entirely with animation was a marvel at that point in time.
Animated Pinocchio was never meant to be exclusively for kids, just like Snow White. Animation was simply a new medium that Disney wanted to develop, innovate, and incorporate. Unfortunately, the association between animated=kids grew as time went on, leading to many misconceptions that fairy tales are also supposed to be for kids.
I’ve seen this Pinocchio surge coming from years away. It’s like Sherlock or Robbin hood. Public domain + popular = spam the IP and studios tend to have similar ideas at similar times with similarly long pipelines and then the mockbusters catch on and rush productions so their version technically comes out first
Disney was like, "Hey, remember that one scene that scarred every single child in the world from Pinocchio? What if we did it again, but added shadowy gouls from another dimension?" It's baffling to me that they changed Pinocchio being tricked again to being literally caught up in it, but they only added an even weirder element to that donkey scene. Strange.
It's really weird what these remakes decide to keep or change for each movie and impressive how they always manage to pick the worst option every time. Pinnochio/Morals, Lion King/Realism, Mulan/Everything
The smoking and drinking was the whole point of pleasure island though. It was one of those morality tales where they gotta say "smoking and drinking is bad, dont do it or bad things happen to you". By removing all of that, it invalidates the whole point of the pleasure island sequence. In fact, basically every change they made to the film rendered each section pointless so... The whole movie had no purpose at all...
If I saw that scene of that kid turning into a donkey when I was younger I would be traumatized. The original Disney one did scare me for days already when I was younger. Not to mention the original pinocchio book was more terrifying.
Also, one thing I'll say, whoever did Tom Hanks' makeup did a phenomenal job. I literally didn't know it was him until the end of this review lol Or maybe I'm just unobservant but still
17:56 Listen, Alex. On first watch, it sounded like Pinocchio couldn’t take one break to breathe while he’s recapping everything in the movie. I was shocked that time!!
I rewatched the old before the new one too, and boy, did the new one’s ending suck. Gepetto seeing Pinocchio dead before he’s brought back to life again hit so much harder than whatever the new one did. 😡
Most nursery rhymes were terrifying. Before the industrial revolution it would be normal for children to die from a number of diseases and being kidnapped and abused so stories were meant as a lesson and warning for the real world
It’s a cautionary tale, don’t listen to strangers and follow them or you would be trafficked, don’t give into temptation and smoke and drink or you would become a donkey and get sold. It’s the perfect children story that scare kids from doing dumb shit. I’m sure it stopped plenty of otherwise stupid kids for doing dumb stuff that can get them in trouble or even killed
A lot of old italian child sltey are like that. Where i live they are called "Novelle", and their point was to make understend to Kids the dangers of the world. And many of them don't have an Happy ending XD If you what to look at other of them there is the film "The tale of tales" that Is really cool !
Casper had a better job of making an animation look normal in the human world. Which is saying something because that movie was made in 1995, you'd think that with today's technology things would look better but it's the opposite. Also, I watched the original Pinocchio as a kid and it was just amazing but also kind of creepy (idk the donkey scene as a kid gave me nightmares) But it also had good morals. This one is just like a fever dream. A remake is very unnecessary considering we have that weird fruity Pinocchio true storyish spin-off of a remake.
Yeah I agree that Casper had a better job of ghost being 3d but Yeah donkey scene was scary and what's sad about it was that the boys were turned into donkeys for slavery and Pinocchio didn't save them
3:10 I'm convinced this was Disney's attempt at ripping off the Del Toro movie, because turns out Geppetto grieving over the loss of a dead son was a major plot point in that film. 7:02 This screenshot right here perfectly sums up both this movie as well as current-year Disney. 😆 12:37 It's the perfect moral from current-year Disney. 😂 13:49 Who knew the original movie was the inspiration for Epstein's island? 😳
New Disney movie remakes are completely missing the point of the actual movies. Like pinocchio was a lesson to kids that if u'll be naughty there will be consequences and if u r nice u'll be rewarded but in this one he was just a dumb kid who was. Misled and mistreated by villains so no real lesson only nightmares from the animation 😞
I always hated Pinocchio as a kid because of the pleasure island thing it was so sad and terrifying and it still makes me super uncomfortable to this day
Yeah, Pinocchio is also one of my least favorite Disney movies because of that. I was hoping the remake would have the boys be rescued and have happy endings, but nope… that instantly makes this movie worthless. (Though the same could be said for most other Disney remakes)
@@shawerful5209 sounds simple to me. Children and other humans tend to avoid stimuli that make them uncomfortable or feel bad. I guess we can’t all be as advanced as you :p
@@ofthewilderwoods Everyone is entitled to their opinion regarding movies, cartoons, stories and whatever, although what you're saying is kinda flawed. The entire thriller/horror genre is targeted toward making you feel uncomfortable and scared.
I always hated cartoons with such scenes. Snoopy being forced to work as a sled dog, suffering like crazy and when he's about to die, it all turns out to be a dream. Why put such shit in kids' cartoons? Years later neighbour kids of mine watched that same cartoon and switched it off because they found it too sad and scary to watch. Yeah yeah, real life is sad and scary sometimes too, valueable life lessons etc. Right, how about "No!" to that?
2:19 - Part 1: The Birth of Pinocchio 6:27 - Part 2: The Puppet Show 13:26 - Part 3: Pleasure Island 17:48 - Part 4: Monstro 19:54 - Part 5: Conclusion
Also, I think the Blue Fairy would've looked better if she'd NOT had an extremely "modern" hairdo and had, instead, worn it in the same style as the original animation. (I mean, WIGS are still a thing.) ANND, the fox didn't need those VERY human hands. More paw-like (like his feet) would've been better. But yeah, agree - it's what Paramount did when the first made Sonic, as opposed to what they eventually greenlit thanks to that guy whose name currently escapes me...
Sighs, the blue fair's hair ended up being sprinkles and glitter. It was beautiful really...but the trailer scene was a bad shot because it made her hair look bald, but she wasn't. Considering you only saw her once in the movie ...your complaint is petty. How did you get so focus on the fox's hands? Even in the original, the guy wore gloves with human hands....you are simply tripping at this point. You are working hard to find a problem with the movie.
Thank you, was afraid of saying something about her hairdo cause it kept throwing me off, what would've been better was half her head shaved and have it coloured purple and throw in a nose peircing add some modern touch...😂😂
That and Atlantis are begging to be used, but due to Disney's track record of adding shit that doesn't support its own existence, I don't trust them to not fuck either film in the adaptation process
@@betterlatethannever4529 What Treasure Planet and Atlantis have in common, besides being so cinematic they could easily become blockbusters if they werent animated, is that they werent as sucessful as the other movies theyre remaking. So i doubt theyre gonna touch them until they run out of any other classic movie to remake. Which, with how many theyre making every year, could easily be in the next five years.
@@pedrovallefin8406 Actually they spread these out, seems at most two per year, well there could be three in 2024, we don't have the Disney+ original scedule yet but for instance next year Peter Pan and Wendy and The Little Mermaid should be the only two coming out. The total number of animated films from that studio will be 62 as of Wish, in Thanksgiving 2023, with three of those being sequels so only 59 available with a number of those already done. HOWEVER, the part you seem to be overlooking is they can make sequels to any of these, and have announced sequels for several. I say "any" but theyr'e not likely to continue Beauty and the Best, desite how much money it made. They were going to make a TV show based off it, but that has been canceleld. Still, Aladdin 2, Cruella 2, and Jungle Book 2 have all been announced.
The pleasure island thing. Based on how you describe it and the clicks makes me think Disney didn't add it back in the same way because it has a child molestation kind of undertone too it. This makes me far more uncomfortable than before...but I can't be the only one catching on to that right....I mean the scene when him saying "they don't come back as boys" alone made me extremely uncomfortable...it being called pleasure island...
I get where you’re coming from but I think you’re imposing 2022 thinking onto a 1940s movie. Even the word “pleasure” carries a different meaning today than it did then. TECHNICALLY speaking it’s the same but these days it has a sexual tone that’s societally driven. We are in a much more sexualized culture in the west today than we were then. Sex was much more private. “Pleasure Island” refers to the boys taking pleasure in smoking, drinking, and just acting out selfishly in ways that aren’t allowed and aren’t good for them - thus acting like asses - thus turning into donkeys - thus why they don’t come back “as boys”. If they were trying to imply that they were diddling every boy there, the donkey reference would’ve made no sense.
I think it's a translation mistake. In the original Pinocchio story (the book by Carlo Collodi) Pleasure Island is called "Paese dei blocchi", which roughly translates to "Land of the toys"
Disney was really afraid of making pinocchio flawed.. besides being somewhat naive. He initially ignores honest john and goes to school, and only goes with him because he's got nowhere to go after the teacher kicks him out for some weird racist vendetta against puppets. Then he just gets kidnapped to pleasure island where he just... follows the rules of the theme park and gets punished for it. Hes just a victim of circumstance, being dragged through the plot by his nose making no decisions of his own.
I liked the creepy fox. Imagine if Scar from the Lion remake had that sort of expression! Yeah, he was weird looking, but I prefer that over bland looking.
At least the original Pinocchio had morals connected with the terrifying scenes (the scene where Lampwick gets turned into a donkey still haunts me)
It’s honestly kinda sad how much they butchered it here
@Productive Elf 😂 amazing
@@piegirl8263 what's the disturbing movie called?
@@mysticcangel1654 Pinocchio?
Lol.
Don't ask why but that was my favorite part
The original Pinocchio movie is already terrifying on its own right. The one with Lampwick turning into a donkey while screaming his mother as his donkey went insane, crashing everything down is disturbing enough.
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And Pinocchio’s stressed out and horrified face watching Lampwick turn into a donkey. Jesus lol.
Likewise, even though it was done by silhouette, it was still frightening and effective.
I still have to hide behind a pillow when that part comes on, same deal with the pink elephants in Dumbo.
and then there the book version where Pinocchio was hanged and nearly died
The whole “Let’s turn children into donkeys and then use them for work,” always seemed extremely terrifying to me.
Yeah I watched the OG when I was 3 and it had- and still does haunt my dreams
@@SawyerAshIsMe When you were 3?? Who lets a 3yo watch a family movie that is 6+ at the very least? I don't think kids need to be shielded too much from dark stories, but a 3yo is a little too young to stray from toddler-friendly animations.
The was probably the only movie where the villain got away
A reminder that Guillermo del Toro is making their own version of Pinocchio, and that one looks a lot more promising!
Well you know the whole analogy to that? Dick around too much in your life when you are young you pay for it when you're older when you make a jackass of yourself. Old before your time working dead-end jobs as the people who actually applied themselves get ahead.
calling the beast "a divorced math teacher" has to be Alex's sickest burn yet
Gepetto letting Pinocchio go to school by himself shows both how the original kid died and that Gepetto has learned absolutely nothing.
I surprisingly didn't think about that. XD
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Didnt even walk mans the first day
My dad always took me to school and back as a kid to make sure I get there up until high school. When I go to high school he would have me wait in his car until the school bus showed up before leaving even when the bus stop was a block away from our house.
"I'm collecting stupid little boys and I take them to pleasure island"
"Pleasure island?... But the law!"
"They never come back... As boys"
That shit hit different as an adult
That was to most pedo thing I’ve heard in a Disney movie. 😨
For real like for one it’s called “pleasure island “ I think that just says enough right there ..! And also “they never come back as boys “ yeah I think we all know how that ends …..
Breaks my heart :(
I think the Pleasure Island subplot might have been the inspiration for Poppy Playtime: kids go some place they think will be fun only to be transformed into something else and sold like cattle.
i was kinda confused, but then i remebered the donkeys and it all made sense.....
To make it more family friendly, they removed all of the drinking and smoking references to candy and root beer, which makes it seem like the kids are being punished for doing childlike things. 🤦🏽♀️
Disney is so scared of those conservative family groups coming after them for not being “family friendly”, everything begins to looks bad.
Girl Meets World is a perfect example. The plot and especially the dialogue was unbelievably hard to watch. I couldn’t get through the first episode after rewatching it several years later as an adult. They couldn’t even talk about serious topics like Boy Meets World did when it had more freedom on ABC.
I was just thinking this too! Although it would be pretty off putting seeing a bunch of real kids smoking in this movie, I liked how they did it in the original cartoon to show that these bad adult habits can lead to consequences, and by now showing the kids just having root beer and candy it takes away that theme/message :/
Subliminal messenging they cut off root and than another child said root beer right after the very first one in that scene so "Beer, root beer"....
I mean, when children nowadays think of misbehaving, they don't usually mean smoking ciggars, but eating forbidden food such as candy. We're not in the 1940s anymore
@@leiretxu_99 Maybe over eating candy, but who cares if kids drink root beer?
I wish someone made a version of Pinocchio where the lying would play integral part in the story, and would get him in trouble, and when he told the truth, it would be resolved. Like a nice moral story for children, not a horror story for parents about the dangers of sending your kid to school alone...
Seriously. 🤣 'What the heck was this movie?!' The book was somehow even 100x worse.
When I was a kid, my brother and I rented out the live-action version of Pinocchio (The first one), and in that movie there actually IS a scene where his lying causes consequences. It actually also happens to be the scene where Pinocchio finds out that when he lies his nose grows, and I truly love it, because it freaks him out.
So this scene actually takes place when he goes to school. When they're having class, a boy kicks Pinocchio in the leg to bully him, and Pinocchio, thinking it's a game, kicks him back. Except that it really hurts the boy, since Pinocchio is made out of wood. The teacher then comes over and asks Pinocchio what is going on. The other boy tells the teacher Pinocchio kicked him, after which Pinocchio panics and says it wasn't him. His nose then grows, to everyone (including Pinocchio's) shock. Noticing his nose grow makes Pinocchio get anxious and come up with excuses, and more lies about a man climbing in through window and kicking the boy, or that the boy kicked himself, etc. Each time his nose gets longer, Pinocchio gets more and more anxious, because he realizes everyone sees through his lies, and the teacher keeps getting angrier and angrier. His nose gets so long, though, that it touches the rag used to wipe chalk off the schoolboard (that the teacher was holding), which causes Pinocchio to sneeze, causing chalk to get all over the teacher's face. It then cuts to him getting kicked out of school, and him feeling genuine remorse over the humiliation he faced, and covering the teacher in chalk.
I cant even begin to imagine how terrifying pleasure island will be in Del Toro's stop-motion remake
It’s not gonna be in it, the Coachman is confirmed to not be in the film.
I think that was a disney creation wasn't it?
@@thehourman7602 *WHAT DO YOU MEAN WERE NOT GONNA DEL TORO'S TAKE ON THE DONKEY TRANSFORMATION*
@@DanielleBaum off topic but what movie is your picture from? The squirrel is so cute!!
@@Stellar_Ella the disney robin hood from the 60s! its the girl squirrel:D
I hate how they basically removed the moral complications of Pinocchio's actions and choices making the point of Pinocchio being a morality tale completely worthless and leaving the story in and of itself a hollow husk of what it's supposed to be.
Welcome to 2022, my friend. And add to that : Disney, 2022.
***Voice of Phil Hartman*** "So Pinocchio is a Pinocchi No."
Not gonna lie, I knew this was about to happen. The original Disney movie showed the boys smoking and drinking alcohol and portrayed this as a bad thing. Nowadays if anyone ever dared to show that, Karens and snowflakes would completely lose their shit and try to cancel the movie for "promoting smoking and alcoholism".
To me it seems at very least a basic yet extreme story of stranger danger. They removed the blame from kids and emphasized how there are adults that will abuse kids. Instead of an influencer reference maybe they should have done an Epstein one 🤷
That’s how modern Hollywood types want it. Morals are scarce there and they want everyone to not give a heck anymore.
In Italy Pinocchio is a beloved tale, originally written by Carlo Collodi, set in Tuscany, and many Italian movies have been directed about it. But to me it is a real pity that in both Disney movies, the old one and the recent one (and also the recent Italian one) the last part of the story is cut off, while being the best part because it gives fullfillment. After returning home from their adventure with Monstro (from which they escape thanks to a talking tuna fish) Geppetto comes down with a fever and Pinocchio takes care of him. During the day he works in a farm in place of the farmer's donkey, that is sick and near to his death. Pinocchio recognizes him immediately, he's Lampwick (Lucignolo in Italian), and this brings to the heartbreaking scene of Lampwick's death (actually my favourite scene of the whole story because it is packed with emotions). Pinocchio is paid a little money and a warm glass of milk that he gives to his ill father, Geppetto, helping him heal. Moreover at night he studies for school. This is the moment in which he is rewarder by the Fata Turchina (Fairy Godmother) and is turned into a real boy. Not because of a single heroic selfless gesture, but with everyday hardwork, learning his lessons about life and honesty little by little, actually showing care towards his loved ones. That's why in my opinion the best pinocchio movie the Roberto Benigni one, the 2002 one. Or if you are curious you could also check out the older Italian Pinocchio movies that are visually quite scary but wonderful, like the Luigi Comencini six episode series "The adventures of Pinocchio" (1972) which is a classic.
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@@becapratt6284 Thank you very much, I didn't know that one! I will check it out😊
I think he got ill from being inside monstro for so long compared to the movies
disney fucks up all stories they steal... it's just their style...
Even as a kid, I always thought it was so weird that the kids in Pinocchio were essentially portrayed as evil (or at least bad enough to justify being turned into donkeys) when all they did was smoke and play pool. The fact in this one, all they did was drink soda and smash things they were told were okay to smash is just hilarious.
Ig it’s setting an example of like wat happens wen u don’t listen to ur Conscience n let it be ur guide and to be good , Disney was big on dat back den
@@kaysosmooth4461 Looks like you never went to school.
Well, they drink beer in the old movie, not soda...
Also pool/billiards was pretty exclusively a gambling game in the 40s, definitely not something they wanted kids playing.
Today... billiards is still played that way some places, but it's also in a lot of casual fun places and isn't nearly as stigmatized.
So even keeping that in it still doesn't have the significance it did in the original.
You know we've gone full meta when we won't even depict "bad" things like smoking or drinking on screen to teach why they're bad, because we don't want to show "bad" things on screen anymore. Because they're bad and we can't show bad things to kids. Like, how the hell are you supposed to have a moral to the story then?
And a black coloured ballerina and fairy u are all right with? 🤮
@@bambinaforever1402 Yes and you should be too. Brian makes a good point you are just showing yourself to be an asshat
@@bambinaforever1402 what’s wrong with that…..
@@bambinaforever1402 Fairies are fictional and. Black people... exist??? Found the racist guys
@@hyfrchloe its the 1890s Italy, that's why.
at least give context or make the fairy all blue and say it's a completely magical creature, not a glowing human.
I'll never forget the donkey scene from the original.
The kid screaming to Pinocchio to help him while his hands turn into hooves, him crying to his mother until he starts braying...
All of those kids shoved into small and crowded wooden boxes, waiting to be sent to mines, to the circus,... And probably some of them could have been sold for meat.
None of them got a happy ending. None.
I haven’t watched the original for that exact reason lol If I ever do, I’ll skip the entire pleasure island sequence
Well, probably not for meat since donkey meat isn't all that popular, and they would be much more valuable as workers.
@@en4833 its so sad tho. they'll never get to see their family again, working In mines as a donkey for eternity....
Oh my God yes! I remember skipping that part along with the Monstro. I completely forgot about the donkey scene until I came across it several years back and it was disturbing as hell 😳
To see the boys who went full donkey, crying, the kids who turned donkeys but still had their voices and Lampwick's scream for his mother while changing 😨
@@LilyZerep so disturbing...
Something pretty sad: y'know the scene where Gepetto discovers Pinocchio went to Pleasure Island, it's sort of implied that he lost his son when he went to Pleasure Island, as he is openly horrified.
He may have possibly lost his original son at Pleasure Island. It did seem like a not again type of response.
Wow. That would be an interesting theory.
I wish they expanded a bit on this, because it’s an *actually* interesting addition to the original story. But you know Disney remakes can only fumble the bag 🙄
And in this scenario it basically means that yeah his original son might be still alive out there somewhere but is actually suffering a fate worse than death. Ouch.
Well, since Tom Hanks is in the film, the horror could be about Epsteins Island, when people discover he was a regular and once purchased a 13yr old girl.
I feel like taking the beer and smoking out of Pleasure Island was a bad decision because it was supposed to show that they were doing all of the wrong things and they could do what they want. They kind of took all of their lessons out lol
They could've used Ginger Ale and no one would know the difference
The real lesson is eating Popeyes Candy Cigs is the sin
So, basically…they took out the moral dilemma Pinocchio has to deal with to become a real boy in exchange for making him this pure hero who is naïve with no other character trait but can do no wrong because hero and also that would take too much work…thus completely destroying the whole point of the movie. Yep, sounds about right for modern Disney.
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For real, though. I don't get why they're so afraid to make flawed main characters. Pinocchio was perfectly likable as a naive innocent who makes bad choices.
Mass media is scared of nuance and moral ambiguity
Right? Where’s Walt when you need him?
@@meequalsbookworm3029 Walt didn't want Mickey to be flawed eaither
I mean I found the original Pinocchio pretty terrifying
its not as terrifying as carlo callodis original book
Seconded, it gave me terrors as a child, particularly the donkey scene! 😱
The child trafficking, the donkey scene, and of course freaking Monstro. The scene where he pretended to close his eyes to trick the fish into thinking he was sleeping was creepy and don’t get me started on his sneezing. Not to mention how he could move as fast as a freaking freight train. Lord.
yeah it always gave me an off feeling
@@carlosbradshawstudentehs7896 well, that's the 'original' Pinocchio. And indeed is grotesque and gore.
I believe the message from the 1940's scene was "A lie grows until it is as plain as the nose on your face." Which is honestly really good advice for little kids. So of course this version undercuts that and uses the nose growing gimmick to get him out 'cause of course "we can't have a fairy come and give him a get out of jail free card like the original, people will say that's just lazy writing".
It's the same with every remake, they completely misunderstand the message of their earlier work and try to "improve" it by having no message at all - or one that completely contradicts the good messages of the original.
On top of that, pleasure island was meant to tell kids that, hey, it’s actually not so great to drink and smoke, but by replacing it with root beer and candy the only threat is obesity? The whole movie just feels like the result of a big game of telephone, but instead of a sentence it’s the entirety of the first movie’s plot and themes
@@anthonybury8446 I have never heard a better summary of disney movie (or any movie/tv show) ever.
*_Tom Hanks went from voicing a boy's toy to voicing the maker of a boy toy. Neat!_* 😊
In the original cartoon the smoking and drinking were clearly framed as a _bad_ thing, and they were a corrupting influence on Pinocchio.
Also I was getting big “come to our Disney theme parks” vibes from Pleasure Island, which made it _actually_ feel icky.
Yeah pleasure island the *child trafficking center* should not look *anything* like Disney’s theme parks or be in *any way* appealing. It’s like they’re showing kids a white van giving away free candy and then the van just gives the kid a ride to school. Like no, please stop romanticizing terrible crimes Disney. By taking out the bad, they are potentially hurting kids. Great.
"Pleasure" island? Arriving as boys, leaving as men? That's some nasty af pedo talk there, WTF...😶🧐 I never watched the whole original movie, kinda glad I didn't now. Ew.
@@StarlightMoss isn’t the whole point that it *looks* appealing but it’s actually fucked up
@@evagarcia865 I think the idea was to make the island look appealing and then pull the rug out from under you.
@@evagarcia865 yes, and thats what pleasure island did in the original for the boys, while letting us, the audience, know its bad the whole time. In this movie it completely fails honestly.
The craziest thing is that in Walt Disney's will he didn't want any remakes of his original movies. They recently came across that and wasn't supposed to make anymore remakes and HERE WE ARE with a super creepy version on Pinocchio 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. It's just so sad that Disney the company isn't respecting Walt Disney final wish.
Honestly, it's hard to find something Disney DOES respect
Greed trumps empty promises
@@alexsanderivan6511 Money. There's always money.
Yeah but NOW it has Black people are you not just SOOOOOOO happy? 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️💔
He was also against the idea of sequels
as a chronic cat owner, I can confirm that all cat owners talk to their cats like they're little people
also I can't believe they decided Pinocchio is just medieval Astro Boy now
Yes we do.
If you truly had cats, you'd know we don't own them. I don't like applying the term "own" to any living being, but cats are definitely not possessions. They're the bosses.
@@englishatheart Can't tell if you're serious or not...
@@englishatheart . . . w h a
@@englishatheart as the saying goes: a dog sees us and thinks "this creature provides me with love, food and shelter. they must be God". a cat sees us and thinks "this creature provides me with love, food and shelter. I must be God"
Crazy how this has the exact same premise, message and ending that the Del Toro one had but executed SO horribly
What we learn from the remake:
- lying is good
- getting kidnapped is good
- smoking cigarettes and drinking root beer is so great!
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-Kids should be punished for having fun!!!!!!!!!
I wonder if this is done in a "reverse psychology" way
No, its to never trust sgrangers, peer pressure is bad, never lie.
Apparently in the original he drank actual beer, smoked a cigar, and loved smashing stuff. This is the flavorless, 'safe' version. All life drained out of it.
As a cat petson, Geppetto talking to his cat as if it was responding is normal for us. Same with the dad jokes. He's chill.
Is that a pun or a typo?
Exactly like that was pretty accurate 😂
it was accurate but i felt so bad for Figaro when Geppetto made Pinocchio dance towards them. poor thing was terrified
@@pfp-underwater We may never know. A Freudian pun?
That's exactly the point of what he's saying :D lol
I believe the reason that everyone is suddenly making Pinocchio movies is that Disney lost the exclusive rights to the visual depiction of the character and it's gone to the public domain, since the original was so long ago and they didn't make a new one in time. The story itself was always public domain, but the visual representation was owned by Disney (I could rant for hours about the way Disney has fucked over public domain but plenty of TH-camrs have done it for me and better). Disney made the remake both because the usual "let's remake our movies but WORSE because MONEY" and also because they still want people to associate Pinocchio with Disney.
Edit: To clarify, I'm not 100% sure on this explanation. It's one that I've seen passed around and I couldn't find anything concrete with my limited googling to say if it's true or not.
are you sure about that? Because I remember seeing a movie and a cartoon about Pinocchio when I was a kid
But that wouldn't explain why the others are making their Pinocchio remakes, since as far as I can tell those don't really take any visual cues from the Disney version.
I think you're confusing a few different things. Disney didn't own the rights to the visual depiction of the character in general - they would the rights to _their own_ 1939 version of the character. And I can't find any source to back up the statement that that copyright expired. From some (admittedly dodgy) sources I can find online, their copyright would run out on their version of Pinnochio some time after 2036.
I think what you're thinking of is the recent Winnie the Pooh horror flick, which was able to be made _precisely because_ the original work by A.A. Milne went into public domain, so Disney lost its exclusive rights to it. However, again, Disney still has the rights to its own original depiction of the character, which is why the character in the horror film couldn't have a solid red shirt.
@@mockturtlesuppe Hmmm... This isn't anything proven based on fact but just guesswork, however I feel like part of why there are Pinocchio remakes this year specifically is simply because of Del Toro's. It's been a known project of his since 2008 but it got shelved and then seemed done for good by 2017 until 2018 when Netflix had acquired the production.
Part of the business game is that you're not above trying to rush out something just for the sake of stealing the limelight from someone else. Disney had already announced back in 2015 that they were planning to do a remake for Pinocchio, but it didn't have a confirmed slot on their upcoming slate. With the announcement of Del Toro's project being back on in 2018, I'm guessing they bumped up whatever development for a Pinocchio remake they had as a priority in order to try and cut off attention given to Del Toro's version. Probably had to complete some projects that were in the works already to do so fully though.
The Russian version with Pauly Shore was just a bonus made to mooch off of the Pinocchio hype they knew would be happening because of the announcements of these productions. It reminds me of some of the releases that are made in Europe and Russia as a response to the trend of whatever Disney's releasing.
There have been other Pinocchio films since the 40s outside of Disney. The Adventures of Pinocchio.
It is in free domain, or at least was. Once every 40 years things become free domain until it is reserved again. That's why there's a bunch of terrible tv remakes of old movies and why occasionally there is like 5 of the same movie released in the same year
I think they should have used a real puppet for Pinnochio and a male actor who's tall and red haired who looks like a fox. You're right anamorphic animals make no sense in this world.
They arguably didn't make sense in the original story either, but it's a fairytale with magic wish-granting fairies and a talking cricket, so it's forgivable.
A red head in a Disney movie? Forget about it.
@Cartoon Critique the fairy and Jiminy cricket are visions only Pinnochio sees though not all the towns people
It's called a fairytale meaning there will be talking animals
Once again you don't get it because is the italian stories that all of you can't understand. Maybe you get this 'cause I know for sure even other countries use this word for this meaning, the fox symbolizes a person who wants to deceive you.
when someone necessarily wants to be smart or wants to deceive you we say "oh you're being the fox?". And then it's a fairytale, what you expect?
Pinocchio's portrayal of child trafficking is terrifying but I guess its somewhat realistic once they have you there's no second chances or happy endings really... the boys who were sent of to slave away as donkey's forever probly never saw their families again. pretty traumatizing for a children's film but the message is strong.
Donkeys*
Pinnochio, the original, was actually made during World War 2 and while the donkey scene happened in the book and Walt Disney happened to be following the book.
I wonder if people back in the day thought about people at the Holocaust camps as well as the kids while watching that donkey scene. It completely breaks my heart and sends chills down my spine at the mere thought of it. :(
@@andreasmeelie1889 Pinocchio was wrapping up production by the time Germany invaded Poland and kicked off the war, and almost two years before American involvement. For that matter, the worst of the Holocaust was still a couple years in the future and the American public wouldn't grasp the full extent of the horrors until after the war.
If anything, the choice of basing a movie around an Italian children's book is kinda interesting. Two years later, Disney would be producing anti-Italian propaganda.
It's even worse in the book: Lampwick/Candlewick gets sold to a farmer, and Pinocchio sees him again after he becomes a real boy and starts working for such farmer to support the ill Geppetto. And that's because Lampwick is dying from being overworked.
"You know, for kids!" -That Guy With The Glasses
Walked in on my brother watching the pleasure island scene where the kid gets turned into a donkey, the way that child screams for help and for his momma, the way he runs around completely helpless mixing with the sounds of the donkey leaving him unable of human speech is actually terrifying and straight up almost made me, someone who never gets emotional about movies, straight up start bawling.
Ikr
I'm gonna bet that the reason WHY this remake makes it so that Pinocchio doesn't do anything wrong or naughty is because they don't want kids to model his behavior and for parents to complain. However, it loses the entire point of the story in the process.
Yep
Its insulting the viewer’s intelligence
Right, it’s missing the entire point of the movie.
I honestly think Disney saw that two Pinocchio films were slated to release this year and went, "Wait, we haven't remade that one yet!" and pushed it out as fast as possible.
Here's hoping the Del Toro Pinocchio is a masterpiece
I haven't seen anyone mention the weirdly intimate moment Pinocchio has with the ballerina doll. They literally gaze into each others eyes and it gave me the creeps because Pinocchio is a whole child. Just gave me weird vibes
I think Disney was just trying to slightly rip off Filmation's "Pinocchio and The Emperor of the night" with the girl doll.
same, i thought they were gonna kiss or something
Ikr
@@AustynSN I feel that the girl puppet is loosely inspired by Malvina from Buratino.
he did get flashed by a other puppet so I think he had enough for today
I'm looking forward to the Del Torro version; that dude does not shy away from the dark/creepy/truly horrific elements of a story (and from what I understand, the OG story of Pinnochio got pretty dark).
The animation looks like it will go well with the story, too.
yup, i mean pinocchio doesn't really make it out of the original
in the original story Pinocchio actually kills the cricket and is also very abusive towards gepetto
Even if his version doesn't end up as dark as people expect it to be, I'd still appreciate a well-presented movie. Like, plot points and dialogue that actually make sense instead of "Chris Pine!" 😒
I believe Pinocchio looking at literal horsesh!t for so long is a meta-joke Disney played on the audience which symbolizes us watching this movie 🙃
Wouldnt the scrit be a little bit better thought out if someone behind it actually have that sort of self awareness?
@@pedrovallefin8406 Pinocchio has no self-awareness though...it's a perfect way to break the fourth wall without outright telling the audience that they've just been insulted...well played Disney.
@@amberslahlize7961 kinda like in lion king that dung beetle was literally rolling a piece of recycled shit
@@googlename7943 Wow, another poop scene I didn't know about, that I am glad I didn't go see. Lol
@@amberslahlize7961 me too i just saw everything wrong with mention it. i think the writers are passive aggresively trying to hint to the audience that they aren't allowed to take risks and make new content
13:53 Disney really warned us about Epeteins island and we were too oblivious to notice
Pinocchio is one of the most simple Disney stories ever told!
*How the hell do you screw that up?*
The disney version is simple, the original tale is a series of bizarre and complicated misadventures that would have been far more interesting to watch. You know, instead of the badly abriged "live action" version they actualy did.
collodi's story is actually a metaphysical mindfuck
I’m not sure about most simple. As a kid I did not understand what was going on in Pinocchio at all. Why were they getting turned into donkeys? Where did this whale come from? I understand it easy now but as a kid I was lost. Other Disney movies like Snow White or sleeping beauty, I understood those fine though.
At the end they even forgot make him a real boy Ah but no. It’s the base of the story so why would dis-include
@@itsjustsophia11 didint he become a real boy in the last shot? if you watch his legs they turn into real ones while he's walking away. or maybe it was geppetto finally losing his mind idk
"It's 1940s Disney, so I'm gonna assume the worst."
I couldn't stop laughing at that line. I almost choked on my water. 🤣
Lol yeah, I rewatched Pinocchio to compare the remake, and I noticed the lips and calling him a gypsy once, which was used in an offensive way back then. Funny, because I had recently watched Hunchback of Notre Dame too.
another funny line that made me laugh:
7:00
And it never made for kids and I mean is Disney was never made for kids when it originally for everyone (usually for adult to watch this anyway)
The story wasn't developed by Disney! It's from an Italian novel by Carlo Collodi
Walt was based without even trying to be.
Even as an adult, Trying to rewatch Pinocchio is terrifying to me.I get nightmares, I just get freaked out with creepy cartoon drawings.
Well, don't watch the original Dumbo, then.
@@escaramujo I watched that once as a kid that was enough for me.
Read my name .
I feel you there. Some of the old school stuff is far more scarier than the more "realistic" stuff. I say this about video games and movies too
I like scary spooky things but Pinnochio hits my in the NOPE part of my brain that makes my skin crawl
I think Pinocchio is being remade so much is because it’s an easy movie to be changed but still have the same morals. Like making certain scenes darker and others lighter.
I laughed so hard at the theory that Pinocchio grew up to be Prince Eric after becoming a real boy and shutting down pleasure island, then went into witness protection.
Prince Eric from the Little Mermaid? But how could he become a prince. That's a cute theory tho.
@@avivastudios2311 they discovered Jipettos ancient Royal family line
@@avivastudios2311 Would a child adopted by a king become a prince?
Don't know if Alex himself came up with it, but that joke about the guy having the age of consent of every country memorised made me cry laughing. That was far too funny XD
@seeni gzty I think you replied to the wrong comment bud
@seeni gzty
Nope, he has the same moral problems ....the only differences is that you can see him learning from the experiences. Pinocchio is innocent and the idea that he was predispose to be evil and stupid ....was something that this one quickly switched out. I mean, he should have been tramutized by the first guy, but he got over it pretty quickly to be easily tricked by the next guy.
I like this version better than the original.
i completely agree.
The divorced math teacher got me as well.
The main problem with all these remakes is this: the beats are all there, but the rhythm is all off.
When you compare scenes like Nala reuniting with Simba, the Donkey scene, Mulan's Decision, Belle in the West Wing, or even the Curse from Sleeping Beauty, you can tell the writers are TRYING to get that same UMPH but because the pacing is all off it just comes off as rushed and poorly executed. Pacing is everything in a film. The reason why the donkey scene and stampede are 10x better in the originals, is because of the buildup to the payoff. But the remakes just kind of fast forward to the payoff and thus the emotions are not there because they expect us to have already seen the original.
Maybe they should've listented to CBAT.
"Beats all there, but the rhythm is off"
Thats a great metaphor. I gotta use that sometime.
That's actually really well said.
they just need to stop. the remakes aren't that good and it's all for money
And that's why the remakes that kind of wandered off and did their own thing are considered the better remakes, like the Jungle Book. Either that or, like the case with Cinderella, you get people who are at least familiar with the tone the story should be going for because let's be real here, Kenneth Branagh's history as a Shakespearian Actor and background directing Medieval Historical Dramas make him kind of perfect for that movie. He gets that it's supposed to be grand.
I can’t help but think that the writers for this movie mixed up the original with Shrek 2 and thought that lying to get the key was how out of that cage
Is it just me or did the blue fairy’s “wings” look less like a pair of wings and more like a whole bunch of flattened tentacles?
You make a solid observation
is it just me or does the blue fairy looks like G I Jane 2?
@@Finozzi96 Will Smith: What you say, beetch?
Praise the Blue Cthulhu
@@Finozzi96 *you get slapped by Will Smith*
"Sir, that is a cat."
*Every cat owner ever evaluating just how much they talk to their cat. lolol
So Disney went from "Lying is wrong," to "Lying is good and gets you out of trouble." It's official, Disney has been taken over by kids in trenchcoats.
Watch pitch meeting for this movie! Ryan said the exact same thing!
@@margotk538 And now I gotta see this
Makes sense since that's exactly what disney is doing yet they still earning that coin
Sometimes it gets you out of trouble and sometimes it’s bad. Depends on the situation
@@misshollis7547 lying is always bad, you can always avoid telling a lie.
The remakes are so that the IP doesn't become public so Disney can keep profits from them. Disney can only own the IP for so long until it becomes public pretty much. So remakes will renew the licensing.
So you're telling me in like 80 years we're getting another remake!!??
this makes so much sense now
...which explains why they're all so sh1t. They only exist to maintain the license.
not sure chief. Pinocchio is already public domain as the og author has been dead over 100 years as with the other fairy tales hijacked by Disney. They cant own the story but their own individual creation. and each movie would be a separate entity. You guys, Disney can recognize a good story but totally cant create one without borrowing.
@Mush Mouf Keep In mind that most of the stories are public domain. It's the likeness of the character(s) that they need to keep. This is called copywrite. The story is irrelevant.
“In the original movie at the very least Lampwick had a very tragic backstory of being a, you know, RED HEAD”
I’m literally dying
love this xd
The original Disney animated version of Pinnochio scared me so much as a kid, I haven’t been able to watch it in full ever since. The entire second half of the movie is complete and utter nightmare fuel.
"Just to be clear; I'm not criticizing the scene in Lightyear. I'm saying that Disney has gotten very good at misdirecting people and controlling the discourse around itself in terms of what people seem to care about on any particular day."
I legit laughed so hard during this whole video, but not any more than I did at this flash of text that I kept missing across the screen. Love the editing and insert here.
I will not forget that one part where Pinocchio's catching Gepetto up on everything in classic Disney fashion and he just goes,
'And we learned to DRINK-erm, I don't remember what it's called-'
Imagine being a parent and your kid goes off and says he learned to drink
"Cause you know, back in the day people would just die if, like, the wind changed direction or something." - Alex Myers. That has got to be the greatest quote of all time.
It’s so strange making Pleasure Island “kid friendly” and for it to be full of stuff kids irl would enjoy like soda and candy. It just tells kids that enjoying those things are wrong while in the original film the message was clear.
Well if they were to put drugs and cigarettes in this remake it would probably not be "suitable for children"
@@Orebrohkfan but the point is to heavily discourage these things from children, which they're probably exposed to in the media
I feel like it was mainly because they drank and ate too much of it when they weren't allowed too because it's extremely unhealthy for the body.
I mean, who goes up to a kid and actively teach them smoking and drinking is bad? That’s not a real concern that parents have with children in today’s time. Smoking and drinking were much more prevalent in the 40s. It’s almost unheard of to see misbehaving children do those kinds of things. But eating excessive candy? That is a very genuine problem that we teach kids about today. So I don’t know, I see it as more of a reflection of changing times.
@@minisn3066 I mean, saying “no” to these things are still taught to children. Cigarette and alcohol consumption has declined over the years among the general population (which is wonderful) but, peer pressure still happens. Drug abuse still happens. It’s important for children to learn that partaking in these activities and running wild is wrong and has consequences. Never going home because you went overboard is a pretty good way to get the message across.
I agree that overconsumption of unhealthy, sugary food is a concern for children as obesity rates are increasing in many countries but, idk. I think the 2022 Pleasure Island still plays it too safe and that the punishment doesn’t fit the “crime” in this version.
28% on Rotten Tomatoes
“Visually dazzling but soulless, the largely inert Pinocchio reaffirms that you should always let your conscience be your guide… away from unnecessary remakes.”
It took them since Friday to finally put up a verdict
Just watch the animated movie again, after 82 years it’s still one of Disney’s best
What a perfect description. I hardly ever agree with Rotten Tomatoes, but this is spot on.
@@merry_christmas yep, like this seriously didn’t need to be remade
The Italian version (not del Toro) version is the one that comes closest to staying to the original book’s roots
I would love to see a Pinocchio movie with an alternate ending of Pinocchio being turned into a real human boy, tracking down and busting the child smuggling ring. Where afterwards he is put into witness protection as Eric from little mermaid.
Imagine getting movies in VR in the future... It would just be another wave of DISNEY RELEASES NEW VR LION KING or something...
Not exactly the movies, but there's are videos of the lion king musical in vr 😁
O i hate it my hope is in the future humans are more interested in original stories
Shhh! Don't give them ideas!
If this comment ends up being prophetic I am going to be so pissed...
"They're just hard for ideas i guess"
no no, they're hard pressed for money. No one asked for these damn remakes lmao ESPECIALLY (as you know) Mulan lol
ikr.
He already knows 😑
@@epsi yes that's the joke, they keep fucking everything up even though they have amazing IP's. They are losing money it's hilarious, these remakes are their attempts to keep there monopoly. Like how do you lose rights to your own character?
not to mention, pinnochio story isnt all that interesting. Like remake at least the interesting ones. Anywa, these remakes are hilarious to me. At the same time, money money money money.... mONAYY.
My favorite line from the original "what do I look like a jackass?" And the Pinocchio says" haha you sure do"
🤣
I really WANT that plot twist!! Alex, time to make your OWN Pinocchio movie....
Lampwick turning into a donkey is scary to me in both 😨 The cgi didn't actually bother me too much and, given that I was almost convinced Disney would lighten up the movie by rescuing all the kids or something (which I was not down for), that scene legitimately shocked me. He had tears in his eyes and they still had him screaming for his Momma. He's never going to see his Momma again...
On another note, I hope this is revealed to be Donkey's back story in the next shrek movie
The Monstro scene felt so anticlimatic when they went through the trouble of making him into a weird sea monster. I thought it was weird they tried to make it better including boys and girls on pleasure island. And the whole “magic tears to life” gave weird romantic feelings because they did that for tangled. Though Pinocchio doing the superhero pose made me laugh. Blue fairy didn’t do anything in this movie. She just gave the puppet life and just peaced out the rest of the film
Guess they ran out of budget for her because they used it all on the smoke monsters and the not a whale-monstro
did you notice his anime girl pose?
@@shadowstrike2594 if they ran out of budget, it was all wasted on Pinocchio and basically the entire movie because the whole thing is CG lol in fact, the blue fairy would be easier and less cost effective to put in every scene than animating a toy doll the entire time
Disney are really ruining the classics, here… I’ll admit, there’s some of the newer Live Action remakes that are OK, some good even, but they really can’t recreate what made the old movies good
if they tried to do a new telling of the story that would help instead of banking on nostogia
@@gracekim1998 That’s the other problem too… they gamble so much on Nostalgia because that’s what made the story’s so popular, but if they differ way too much from the story, it’ll feel like “This is just a whole new movie but with *classic name* slapped on it” to make a quick buck
Read my name .
I dunno, Tom Hanks was in this movie and I really liked his performance, along with Luke Evans, Joseph Gordon Levitt, Keegan Michael Key and Benjamin Evan Ainsworth's performances.
You what they say, the movie isn't a flop if it has Tom Hanks in it.
the only ONLY one I like is Cinderella because the OUTFITS
I thought pinocchio was like about "you shouldn't lie" but nope, that just didn't happen
This remake is terrible! There was so much potential and disney threw it out the window. I also feel that the scenes were rushed. If you havent seen the 1940 version it would be confusing to understand what is going on in the remake. It was so disappointing compared to the 1940 version
Precisely, it just seems half hearted and designed to cash in on a beloved Disney property.
@@trinaq I know right, the ending was so rushed aswell! In the 1940 film that is the most meaningful moment.
Disney's live action remakes even though they're technically a mix of live action and animation because CGI but whatever are about twice if not thrice the length of the original 2d films and yet they do next to nothing with the time given to them compared to what the originals accomplished with an hour or so.
I liked it
What wud you expect from that remake that could work?
I mean I already knew it was going to be a dumpster fire the second I saw a black woman in blue fairy
I remember being traumatised by the original as a kid to the point where I refused to watch the movie ever again. Good times, good times
SAME
Yup, the whole donkey boy
“I want my Mommy”
“This one can still talk” * throws in a cage*
I saw it once maybe twice when I was a kid and have not watched the movie since. But that entire event. It traumatized me.
Heck, I saw the original in my 30s for the first time and I was traumatized.
Yes, good times
@@KendoGurl Omg saaamee! I remember crying when I rewatched it as an adult! The sad look on the donkeys faces... I just can't!!
I had the exact same thought when I saw this! I would NEVER send my daughter to her first day of school by HERSELF!
Thank you, and a very impressionable “kid” that was never outside before! I was like………. 😑😑 “Gepetto really driving this movie forward!”
ive never seen either of these movies but when alex said they kidnapped boys to take to pleasure island, my heart fucking dropped
The original Pinocchio was terrifying. I couldn't believe it was a kids' movie. Kids turn into donkeys and are taken away from their parents, a creepy guy tries to kill Pinnochio, and then he is eaten by a whale.
I remember I couldn't sleep for the whole month
@@natmze I'm now scared of whales. This is somehow a movie for kids!?!?
It wasn’t meant to be a kid’s movie. Back when the original Disney movies were coming out, they were just animated movies meant for the entire family. The fact that there were movies made entirely with animation was a marvel at that point in time.
Animated Pinocchio was never meant to be exclusively for kids, just like Snow White. Animation was simply a new medium that Disney wanted to develop, innovate, and incorporate. Unfortunately, the association between animated=kids grew as time went on, leading to many misconceptions that fairy tales are also supposed to be for kids.
@@SxyChicDisney y'know what people say
Animation=Kids. Who the fuck said Pinocchiow was for kids?
I’ve seen this Pinocchio surge coming from years away. It’s like Sherlock or Robbin hood. Public domain + popular = spam the IP and studios tend to have similar ideas at similar times with similarly long pipelines and then the mockbusters catch on and rush productions so their version technically comes out first
I thought it was because we're all upset about what happened to Penny Polendina.
Honestly surprised Disney hasn't attempted a "live-action" reboot of Robin Hood yet.
@@LukaTisus There is one coming. It was announced in 2020 for Disney+, directed by the director of RAYA AND THE LAST DRAGON.
Disney was like, "Hey, remember that one scene that scarred every single child in the world from Pinocchio? What if we did it again, but added shadowy gouls from another dimension?"
It's baffling to me that they changed Pinocchio being tricked again to being literally caught up in it, but they only added an even weirder element to that donkey scene.
Strange.
in the original, there were small shadowy workers that helped trap and pack the donkeys for sale. watch it again. this remake still sucked though.
As a kid, I was so terrified with the first Disney Pinocchio movie that I never dared to watch it again.
Me too. It belongs in the trash heap of my bad memories.
It's really weird what these remakes decide to keep or change for each movie and impressive how they always manage to pick the worst option every time. Pinnochio/Morals, Lion King/Realism, Mulan/Everything
10:48 "the age of consent of every country in the world memorized" lol
The smoking and drinking was the whole point of pleasure island though. It was one of those morality tales where they gotta say "smoking and drinking is bad, dont do it or bad things happen to you". By removing all of that, it invalidates the whole point of the pleasure island sequence.
In fact, basically every change they made to the film rendered each section pointless so... The whole movie had no purpose at all...
How disney gets the motivation to make movies now:
Money
If I saw that scene of that kid turning into a donkey when I was younger I would be traumatized. The original Disney one did scare me for days already when I was younger. Not to mention the original pinocchio book was more terrifying.
Also, one thing I'll say, whoever did Tom Hanks' makeup did a phenomenal job. I literally didn't know it was him until the end of this review lol
Or maybe I'm just unobservant but still
His voice gave him away after like 10 seconds
Read my name .
The man has a cheap wig and mustache, he had literally a day of makeup
They didn't even try
@@susivarga7303 really?>i was like hmm, voice sounds familiar. But until i read your comment i did not realize it was tom hanks
@@bambinaforever1402 🙂 unmistakeable voice, but I had to see the eyes too to recognise him.
Both Pinocchio movies by Disney were terrifying, but for VERY different reasons.
17:56 Listen, Alex. On first watch, it sounded like Pinocchio couldn’t take one break to breathe while he’s recapping everything in the movie. I was shocked that time!!
I rewatched the old before the new one too, and boy, did the new one’s ending suck. Gepetto seeing Pinocchio dead before he’s brought back to life again hit so much harder than whatever the new one did. 😡
i never understood why Pinocchio is even a children’s story. it’s a terrifying horror story.
Same, I heard the original creator of Pinocchio hated kids, I guess that explains the whole donkey thing
Most nursery rhymes were terrifying. Before the industrial revolution it would be normal for children to die from a number of diseases and being kidnapped and abused so stories were meant as a lesson and warning for the real world
It’s a cautionary tale, don’t listen to strangers and follow them or you would be trafficked, don’t give into temptation and smoke and drink or you would become a donkey and get sold.
It’s the perfect children story that scare kids from doing dumb shit. I’m sure it stopped plenty of otherwise stupid kids for doing dumb stuff that can get them in trouble or even killed
A lot of old italian child sltey are like that.
Where i live they are called "Novelle", and their point was to make understend to Kids the dangers of the world.
And many of them don't have an Happy ending XD
If you what to look at other of them there is the film "The tale of tales" that Is really cool !
Oh the auther actually didn't like kids. He was fully intending to kill off Pinocchio but his publishers weren't having it
Casper had a better job of making an animation look normal in the human world. Which is saying something because that movie was made in 1995, you'd think that with today's technology things would look better but it's the opposite. Also, I watched the original Pinocchio as a kid and it was just amazing but also kind of creepy (idk the donkey scene as a kid gave me nightmares) But it also had good morals. This one is just like a fever dream. A remake is very unnecessary considering we have that weird fruity Pinocchio true storyish spin-off of a remake.
Yeah I agree that Casper had a better job of ghost being 3d but Yeah donkey scene was scary and what's sad about it was that the boys were turned into donkeys for slavery and Pinocchio didn't save them
@@khaliyahjefferson832 facts ppl always forget Pinocchio dipped on they ass😂
What a good movie that was...
@@jokerduchiha8903 or maybe he didn't have time to do it but come on bruh
3:10 I'm convinced this was Disney's attempt at ripping off the Del Toro movie, because turns out Geppetto grieving over the loss of a dead son was a major plot point in that film.
7:02 This screenshot right here perfectly sums up both this movie as well as current-year Disney. 😆
12:37 It's the perfect moral from current-year Disney. 😂
13:49 Who knew the original movie was the inspiration for Epstein's island? 😳
The transformation donkey scene in the original Pinocchio traumatized me as a kid and it still gives me chills to this day.
New Disney movie remakes are completely missing the point of the actual movies. Like pinocchio was a lesson to kids that if u'll be naughty there will be consequences and if u r nice u'll be rewarded but in this one he was just a dumb kid who was. Misled and mistreated by villains so no real lesson only nightmares from the animation 😞
I always hated Pinocchio as a kid because of the pleasure island thing it was so sad and terrifying and it still makes me super uncomfortable to this day
Me too. Especially the Donkey transformation scene..
Yeah, Pinocchio is also one of my least favorite Disney movies because of that. I was hoping the remake would have the boys be rescued and have happy endings, but nope… that instantly makes this movie worthless. (Though the same could be said for most other Disney remakes)
@@shawerful5209 sounds simple to me. Children and other humans tend to avoid stimuli that make them uncomfortable or feel bad. I guess we can’t all be as advanced as you :p
@@ofthewilderwoods Everyone is entitled to their opinion regarding movies, cartoons, stories and whatever, although what you're saying is kinda flawed. The entire thriller/horror genre is targeted toward making you feel uncomfortable and scared.
I always hated cartoons with such scenes. Snoopy being forced to work as a sled dog, suffering like crazy and when he's about to die, it all turns out to be a dream.
Why put such shit in kids' cartoons?
Years later neighbour kids of mine watched that same cartoon and switched it off because they found it too sad and scary to watch.
Yeah yeah, real life is sad and scary sometimes too, valueable life lessons etc. Right, how about "No!" to that?
2:19 - Part 1: The Birth of Pinocchio
6:27 - Part 2: The Puppet Show
13:26 - Part 3: Pleasure Island
17:48 - Part 4: Monstro
19:54 - Part 5: Conclusion
Also, I think the Blue Fairy would've looked better if she'd NOT had an extremely "modern" hairdo and had, instead, worn it in the same style as the original animation. (I mean, WIGS are still a thing.)
ANND, the fox didn't need those VERY human hands. More paw-like (like his feet) would've been better. But yeah, agree - it's what Paramount did when the first made Sonic, as opposed to what they eventually greenlit thanks to that guy whose name currently escapes me...
Sighs, the blue fair's hair ended up being sprinkles and glitter. It was beautiful really...but the trailer scene was a bad shot because it made her hair look bald, but she wasn't. Considering you only saw her once in the movie ...your complaint is petty.
How did you get so focus on the fox's hands? Even in the original, the guy wore gloves with human hands....you are simply tripping at this point. You are working hard to find a problem with the movie.
The originality and charm are the last things on the list when doing the remakes. Number 1 is checking they meet the race criteria. Pure woke trash.
@@amandabrown5096 Yes woke trash.
Thank you, was afraid of saying something about her hairdo cause it kept throwing me off, what would've been better was half her head shaved and have it coloured purple and throw in a nose peircing add some modern touch...😂😂
@@letb5569 wait shes not bald??? I just typed a comment about her bald head...
The one thing I actually liked about this movie is that Pinocchio actually had second thoughts about what he was doing
Yep, he grew his own conscience
One movie that I think would be insanely awesome to redo in live action is Treasure Planet, but I would not trust modern Disney to pull that off.
That and Atlantis are begging to be used, but due to Disney's track record of adding shit that doesn't support its own existence, I don't trust them to not fuck either film in the adaptation process
don't tell me they're gonna make live action tangled In a few years, that movies too good to be ruined.
@@betterlatethannever4529 What Treasure Planet and Atlantis have in common, besides being so cinematic they could easily become blockbusters if they werent animated, is that they werent as sucessful as the other movies theyre remaking. So i doubt theyre gonna touch them until they run out of any other classic movie to remake. Which, with how many theyre making every year, could easily be in the next five years.
@@pedrovallefin8406 Actually they spread these out, seems at most two per year, well there could be three in 2024, we don't have the Disney+ original scedule yet but for instance next year Peter Pan and Wendy and The Little Mermaid should be the only two coming out. The total number of animated films from that studio will be 62 as of Wish, in Thanksgiving 2023, with three of those being sequels so only 59 available with a number of those already done. HOWEVER, the part you seem to be overlooking is they can make sequels to any of these, and have announced sequels for several.
I say "any" but theyr'e not likely to continue Beauty and the Best, desite how much money it made. They were going to make a TV show based off it, but that has been canceleld. Still, Aladdin 2, Cruella 2, and Jungle Book 2 have all been announced.
If they touch Treasure Planet, I will burn all their theme parks TO THE GROUND.
5:02 This version of Geppetto is clearly a maniac.
Maybe he’s been sniffing too much sawdust if you know what I’m saying
That scene of Pinocchio sniffing the pile of shit.....like how much did they spend animating that? It went on for quite a long moment too.
I actually sighed outloud with alex with the “chris pines” joke
Maybe my sense of humor is on the ground, because i laughed out loud. Or maybe because celebrity puns are my favorite
I wheezed out of disbelief in what I just heard.
The pleasure island thing. Based on how you describe it and the clicks makes me think Disney didn't add it back in the same way because it has a child molestation kind of undertone too it. This makes me far more uncomfortable than before...but I can't be the only one catching on to that right....I mean the scene when him saying "they don't come back as boys" alone made me extremely uncomfortable...it being called pleasure island...
I get where you’re coming from but I think you’re imposing 2022 thinking onto a 1940s movie. Even the word “pleasure” carries a different meaning today than it did then. TECHNICALLY speaking it’s the same but these days it has a sexual tone that’s societally driven. We are in a much more sexualized culture in the west today than we were then. Sex was much more private. “Pleasure Island” refers to the boys taking pleasure in smoking, drinking, and just acting out selfishly in ways that aren’t allowed and aren’t good for them - thus acting like asses - thus turning into donkeys - thus why they don’t come back “as boys”. If they were trying to imply that they were diddling every boy there, the donkey reference would’ve made no sense.
I think it's a translation mistake. In the original Pinocchio story (the book by Carlo Collodi) Pleasure Island is called "Paese dei blocchi", which roughly translates to "Land of the toys"
@@claudiamirandola1305 Or Toyland.
Disney was really afraid of making pinocchio flawed.. besides being somewhat naive. He initially ignores honest john and goes to school, and only goes with him because he's got nowhere to go after the teacher kicks him out for some weird racist vendetta against puppets.
Then he just gets kidnapped to pleasure island where he just... follows the rules of the theme park and gets punished for it.
Hes just a victim of circumstance, being dragged through the plot by his nose making no decisions of his own.
I liked the creepy fox. Imagine if Scar from the Lion remake had that sort of expression! Yeah, he was weird looking, but I prefer that over bland looking.
17:11 great sound design disney. that sounds like pool is being played for sure
19:05 I never noticed that before
Your comedic commentary is hilarious and genius 😂😂😂