@@sadie9728 I literally said WTF, when it switched over to animation. The original animation was so good, and this looked like some Korean knock off animation.
Robert and Giselle's baby was basically a living prop, who didn't really add much to the plot. It might have made more sense if she were a few years younger than Morgan, and could actually interact with her as sisters, with drastically different personalities.
@@ElvenSkywalker yeah that's what annoyed me right away, how is she still the exact same person. I think she is even more bubbly and unbelievably naive this time around.
Native NY'er here - we can absolutely spot the folks who moved here versus grew up here, even if they've lived in NYC for 20+ years. 😂 That said, I'm assuming the bubbliness is inherent to her personality, not so much a product of where/how she's living.
I honestly like how they tried to stop the clock to stop the spell being permanent. It's because the prophecy is always "When the clock strikes 12" not "When it is midnight" so what better way to prevent it from being permanent than to literally stop the clock from striking 12?
Enchanted worked because it was about bringing magic to the real world. So Robert being cynical and the riffs on fairy tales was funny or wholesome. I think my favorite representation of this was during That's How You Know when the construction workers danced and posed to Giselle's singing or when the bikers crashed into Edward when he tried to sing. Disenchanted tried to swap it, bringing the real world into a fairy tale. Problem was, by transforming everyone into character tropes, it just resulted in a... generic fairy tale movie. None of the characters were who we liked in the original movie. There was way too much singing which would usually be fine with me but the songs were so cookie cutter and bland.
but I wish she still had some of the whimsical charm she had as a kid and Fun fact: The guy who directed Enchanted also directed A Goofy Movie, which explains why it's such a masterpiece.
They should have brought that director back and somehow given Giselle and Morgan a fairy tale flavored mother-daughter version of Goofy and Max's arc... (Edit: can see how that would sound like a rehash, but a GOOD rehash of a GOOD movie, and made into/used as a sequel in a way that actually makes sense - it CAN be done)
@@whyiamafs if they got the director who made the goofy movie, the direction would've taken a completely different turn in SUCH a good way. the relationship between goofy and max is just so.. fun. giselle and morgan could've had what they had, its sad that isnt reality.
I hate how they didn't keep any of Giselle's character growth from the first movie. Like she didn't sing at the end because she was becoming a real person
@@Turtlemmd I mean that would be great it if weren't the whole point of the ballroom scene in the first movie. There is someone else singing because it represents how she grew out of her stereotypical "princess" persona.
@Katie Logue I kinda saw it as she didn't sing along because she was already in love with Robert. Not because she was changing. I would expect her to sing a lot with Robert and Morgan because she truly loves them
This doesnt make any sense, Giselle literally started a fashion designer company called Andelasia fashions at the end of the first movie and as you said could make dresses with the animals and any fabric with ease. Why is Morgan without any clothes or fashionable dresses/ outfits to wear? If anything, Morgan should be best friends with Giselle and be an accomplished fashion designer herself.
Morgan and Giselle obviously grew to have very different styles though. Morgan probably would’ve loved the splashes of color as a young child, but you can see it darkened as she got older.
@@caitlynjs97 I still think Giselle should have known how to make clothes that were more in line with Morgan's likes after 10 years of living with her in New York. If anything, the whole clothes got burned thing should have not been an issue.
I kinda mentioned that to my family how it would've been neat to see something like that, and it was weird they didn't mention she did have a fashion empire. If anything the sequel should have been more a role reversal of her and Robert in the first movie where maybe she's over worked/tired and Robert is the one trying to add more magic into their lives. Or better yet having the new baby be maybe Morgan's age in the first one and her making the bone-headed wish and seeing it backfire
Watched this movie today and had already forgotten that the baby existed. Also Robert added literally nothing to the movie. If he left a note on a fridge saying he had to go out of town and just not having the actor there, there would have been not a single difference to it. I also caught the "love's true kiss is most powerful" and then this movie retconning it with memories...
I did think Disenchanted was a lot of fun, but I do agree. There were a few too many songs, Gisele was basically Wanda and the first film was perfect on its own.
only that giselle had no reason to do it. i was just thinking why dont u just take the whole family back to your fairy tale land instead of cursing the world.
Im mostly just pissed that they decided to move to the suburbs when in New York they had: -a nice apartment -a local, decently paying job for robert -Morgan’s entire social life/education system -Giselle’s (forgotten??) fashion *EMPIRE* -all of Giselle’s animal friends -Giselle’s home, that she decided to stay in over her magic treehouse thing -A portal to another world -Any friends Giselle/Robert might have/have made (that are never mentioned) AND THEY DECIDED TO MOVE TO THE SUBURBS BECAUSE GISELLE F E L T LIKE IT???? ROBERT STILL GOES TO HIS OLD JOB MORGAN’S SCHOOL/SOCIAL LIFE ISN’T ANY BETTER GISELLE ISNT ANY HAPPIER IN THE SUBURBS W H Y DID THEY PUT SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY INTO MOVING IF THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO OTHER THEN GISELLE’S F E E L I N G S
I'm pretty sure the baby was introduced only as a justification to have them move. The opening narration said the apartment got too cramped with the baby so they moved, but otherwise the baby did nothing lol
Agreed, half of his screentime is in his animated form, and I know that they had to work around his busy schedule, but I wished that James could have been in more scenes.
All of the men were so unjustifiably sidelined in this film... Edward barely did anything, Robert was relegated to being an irrelevant side character, and Tyson didn't even have any characterization besides being the stereotypical "prince".
Morgan didn't really need a love interest in my opinion that was unnecessary. The movie should have just revolved around Morgan and Giselle's relationship, Morgan learning about magic and how she can use it to save the day. Also her love interest had no personality and we didn't get to see their relationship evolve that much so having him in the movie was pointless.
Live interests almost always makes things at least a little more interesting and make the movie a little more appealing to more audience demographics and types of people. I don't mind it tbh, nit every movie had to be like fkng Moana
I'm so sad Morgan stopped being whimsical but the teen years do that to ya but I wish she still had some of the whimsical charm she had as a kid. she loved fairy tales and princesses. you can still be happy and into those things as a teen. not all teens are edgy and gloomy
Exactly! That's how I felt too. Though it was awfully interesting to see a Disney Princess like Giselle deal with a gloomy teenager like Morgan. However it would have been much different if Morgan was exactly that you wished her to be.
I would have found it interesting if she was still into fairytales, but villains instead of princesses, hence why she acts so edgy/gloomy (also if she struggled to dislike evil Giselle because of her fascination with villains, that would be interesting LOL)
and he’s so hot 😭 he was in hairspray and the original enchanted and he was always my crush. weird bc zac efron and elijah kelley (both hot af) were in hairspray and as a kid i was like no i like the older guy 😂 must be my daddy issues but i stand with it, james marsden is top tier
The funniest thing about the premise of the movie is that their apartment isn't even that small. Because let's be real here, the only reason they didn't do another sequel in NYC again is just budgetary and logistical reasons. It was already hard enough when they had to shoot scenes at times squares, and a whole musical segment in central park for the first movie and i love the first movie for it.
and honestly i dont get why people are mad at that lol. like for what its worth they accomidated for the budget cuts in REALLY smart ways. none of the movie felt lazy to me.
@@zestytriss5282 do you...know how much a baby requires? like they had TWO rooms and a pretty small kitchen thats somehow supposed to hold all of their stuff PLUS bottles(and all the equipment that comes with them), diapers, a bassonet, a crib, AND stroller(s). babies require a LOT.
Enchanted's plot was innovative, had a few twists and left Giselle a new woman with love but also professional ambition. Disenchanted's plot is basically a Christmas hallmark movie at this point. Big city = bad Suburbs = good Fashion empire = has become non-existent Stay-at-home suburbmom = only valid option for Giselle
Also the movie was supposed to be about giselle and her step daughter but it was all pushed aside and some weird prince came into the story.They absolutely did not need a prince in this movie his character was weird and annoying tbh.they could have just gave his screentime to giselle and morgan and developed their relationship.morgan also never apologised for misbehaving with giselle throughout the movie (without any spell) and giselle apologised for behaving how she was under a spell.
@@arabellastringer3788 it’s not that it’s that she isn’t really given the option to choose between her job and her child. The movie just decides she’s a stay at home mom now
I really enjoyed the movie, but the main thing I was disappointed by is that there was no mention of Giselle’s business. She started a business called Andalasia Fashions, selling clothes made by herself and animals, and it would have been cool to see her succeeding as an entrepreneur in NYC. Instead, she’s basically a housewife? I was a little disappointed with that. The best character in disenchanted imo was Nancy, who works so well as a no nonsense kind queen of andalasia (also Idina’s song is gorgeous). I do also agree that Robert and Edward were heavily underused. Wish we could have seen more of Robert and Giselle’s relationship
I don't see problem with Giselle as housewife (she has small child, of course she would like break from her work to be with her child) but they should have mention her giving herself a break from her work. It was nice ending (of first movie) for her to bring a bit of magic into clothes. She could also do remote work or part-time designing clothes. They should have mentioned it somehow
What’s wrong with being a housewife, plus after more than decade, there’s such a thing called maternity leave and if her fashion brand grew she might have hired other employees at some point, including assistants or a team to manage her business while she settles with her new family life. There’s nothing wrong with a woman being in the home with her baby, especially if it’s what she chose, and I’m pretty sure a woman who’s literally a fairytale princess would enjoy motherhood, equal rights and choice and all that.
Not saying there’s anything wrong with being a housewife, was just disappointed that her business wasn’t even mentioned particularly in regards to the move. If she has a business set up in NYC her moving away would surely impact that. Mat leave is obviously important but there was no mention. If they had said, idk “Giselle moved on from her business to focus on her family” that would have made sense but there was no mention at all
I loved the movie as well surprisingly and I thought it was a decent sequel at most. I do think the movie was rushed and on a much lower budget than the first movie. However, the costuming was beautiful (minus Morgan’s blue dress, I don’t know why but I hate it and it looks so cheap compared to everyone else’s costume.) Seeing how people mentioned her business, now makes me wonder why it was never mentioned. It was as if it never existed, and this proves that most sequels forget what’s established in their first movie. I am glad to see that none of the characters had an unnecessary change in personality. Even Morgan, I think her growing up shows how she’s changed because she was a little girl and now she’s not. Overall, I think with a higher budget and whoever worked on the first movie had worked with the second movie it would’ve been perfect. Also if it didn’t seem rushed I think it would be better liked.
I think the main problem I have with this movie is taking Giselle out of the city and into the suburb place that doesn’t look real which was what made the first movie charming, a fairy tale person in this real world, Monroville just looks like a Disney neighborhood.
Yep... The sequel should of been about the family visiting Andalasia, while seeing Edward and Nancy ruling the kingdom and a mysterious danger lerking about.
My problem with this sequel is that follows every possible trope, from the rebel teenager to the problems she has with Giselle and them moving against her will, while the first movie just did the complete opposite by subverting movie tropes
Well, just like Alex said at the beginning, movie companies are like those little gerbils you get as pets and who spend their time in the darkest corner of their cage, curled up and trembling and jumping at the slightest sound: they only bet on extremely prudent projects like sequels, and those have to be choke full of tropes, because tropes are reassuring and don't offend anyone. What's that you said? You want ORIGINALITY? Are you crazy? Do you how much good writers cost, and how high the risk is some random idiot on Twitter might possibly perhaps find something slightly not totally aligned with their particular political beliefs and artistic taste in your original, non-tropey movie? I mean, have you seen Twitter's CEO? No no no, we can't have that! Disappointing sequels and soulless franchises and unnecessary reboots it is! Shut up, just consume!
@@normadgarmez7026 Disney: How dare you, you bunch of sexist/racist/homophobic/fatphobic/whateverist crying manbabies! Seriously, remember the made-up controversy about the Little Mermaid? The trailer looked like crap, but one or two braindead idiots complain about her skin color and suddenly the problem lies with the entire fanbase and not with the soulless, money-hungry behemoth churning out yet another pointless, cash-grabby reboot. Maybe Hollywood will understand one day that people won't be guilted into paying to see Ghostbusters 2016 or Charlie's Angels 2019.
THANK YOU!!! The whole point of the first movie was subversion of all these tropes which makes it even more pathetic they just went and followed every single trope imaginable
My favorite part about Disenchanted is the fact that Disney was making fun of their own trope and still failed. It felt too fast paced, everything was resolved way to quickly, and I hated how they drew the animated parts in a newer style instead of matching the old movie Edit: the whole scene with the song “Badder” was the best part of the whole movie
Sofia should have been an older child who could have had palpable sibling rivalry. Teenagers usually don't get as upset as a toddler when they get a new sibling. A 4yo old will feel left out when their parents get a baby, not a 16yo 😅 It made no sense for them to wait this long to have a baby.
Not necessarily such a big age gap can lead one to feeling like their being replaced especially if the parents changed for the better so the new kid gets all the things the older kid never had. All depends on the person and situation.
Thank god I'm not the only one who noticed, the difference between the first movie's animation and this one was jarring the body proportions got so weird for Morgan and Nancy at some point
Am I ever going to watch this movie again?No! Am I ever rewatching the previous one?HELL NO!!! Will I re-listen to the"Badder"song over and over again?Yep.
They played the Fairy Tale musical aspect far too straight for a sequel to Enchanted. It was harmless overall, but just wasn't as "enchanting" as the original.
@@ayrisssikes7205 Yeah, I get that was the point, but it didn't work for a sequel to Enchanted, which at its core was a clever and heartfelt "parody" that made lighthearted fun of the Disney tropes. Played it too straight this time around.
I think what was the most disappointing is how the sequel completely abandoned all of the character development of the first movie and, if anything, regressed the characters. I've seen so many suggested plots by other people that have so much more potential. The charm of the first movie was the 'fish out of water' trope and subversion of expectation. By having only Giselle know that the world has changed, it takes away all of the fun of acclimating to the fairytale world for all the other characters. The original movie was self-aware and poked fun at clichés. This movie seemed like it tried to do that but it just came off as unironic. There are far too many unnecessary sub plots too. Half of this movie could have easily been cut, and it would not have impacted the central story line. All this to say that Enchanted was truly ahead of its time. It was great to see the cast again, but this movie was such a missed opportunity.
I did actually like this movie. Morgan was moody in the beginning, but she wasn't mean. She still cared for Giselle and you could tell she outgrew the room, but said she liked it anyway not to hurt Giselle's feelings until her clothes burned. You could see Morgan's patience running out when she said she wanted to figure things out herself and Giselle jumped the gun and the "True daughter of analasia" song made her feel left out. It actually hurt when Morgan said step mom. and you felt Giselle feel bad too. The dynamic between them in the movie made me very invested in it. I do think Robert was underused and Morgan's love interest was unnecessary since he really had no part, but I had fun with the movie.
No one in the movie is really a bad person. There is no villain. Even the Malvina admits that she got a bit too full of herself and extended an offer of friendship to Giselle at the end. Both of them only became "villains" as part of the shift into fairy tale tropes, which really wasn't anyone's fault; Giselle didn't expect her wish to take on a Monkey's Paw angle.
To me, it actually felt like Morgan liked her new room and everything was going well until she flicked that switch and it winded up causing fire and burning her clothes.
I agree. I think Morgan outgrew the room, but I think she also appreciated the thought especially since she was feeling so insecure throughout the movie. Or perhaps Morgan wasn’t lying to save breaking Giselle’s heart and secretly did enjoy some of her childhood tastes.
It's sad because the first one is one of my favorite movies, and I can almost see a good movie in here somewhere. Like if Morgan and Robert had woken up in fairytale land still themselves and then slowly started to act like their 'fairytale counterparts' and Giselle and Morgan could work together to face the threat of the evil Queen so Morgan's character development would actually happen because she could understand where Giselle comes from and Giselle could truly understand how different Morgan's life is. Maybe send both Robert and Morgan to Antalasia so he could actually be a part of the story.
I had to watch the film before this one 😇 My first major question of the film was “What about that fashion line?!” Giselle was very thoughtful for Morgan’s room. I can’t believe no one didn’t think to avoid power outlets with your boxes, especially when there are 4 other blank walls to use. How does the stress disappear when Edward and Nancy arrive. Giselle seems un-phased by having and raising a baby. Must be a natural?
Sofia's just an easy baby to raise. Like, in this musical about evil queens and magic wishes, the most unrealistic part of the movie is when the baby waits until their morning alarm goes off to start crying.
To be fair, in a fairy tale world, stopping a clock from chiming might as well stop time, so if Giselle's wish made the town operate on fairy tale rules, stopping the clock from chiming is a valid strategy.
Idina has such a great voice that I didn’t mind her just singing the words “love power” over and over again for the longest time. 😂 Still the best song in the movie.
@Katie Logue literally I told my family "Disney is really just trying to wear out Idinas voice, huh?" - Like I felt like it was just "let's have her hit all these notes no one else can hit again and again for 4 minutes! Ta-da!!"
@Katie Logue Agreed. All of the songs in here didn't really seem to be as playfully catchy or have elaborate sequences like That's How you Know, or the cleanup song. The movie actors did fine, the art and cgi was pretty good, but my god was the singing and plot god-awful.
"this isn't a bad movie (...) it's just unnecessary (...) what if a bunch a 50yo had to learn about the meaning of love and family... again" This 👏!!! You perfectly summarised my feelings about this movie. Why? The characters had already learned all those lessons. There was no need for this sequel.
Gotta love how only purpose of Robert and Giselle's baby in this movie is to signal they had a bit of spicy time at some point in those 10 years. Thank you Disney i have no idea how i would manage without that information
Every age so well and their person who played Giselle is a great actor. It actually looked like she was really really crying near the last parts of the movie. It’s impressive how she was able to change her actor so well from good to evil. Morgan’s acting wasn’t convincing enough for me, but maybe because she is young.
@@Lilyberry03 Its actually not the same actress who played Morgan in the original Enchanted, the Morgan in Disenchanted is a totally new one. The OG Morgan plays a small cameo in the movie though.
@@anon7216 OOOH OMG LMAO I looked it up and saw the OG actress and I thought it was her- jesus, i didnt see the next picture 😀😀 how stupid of me, im sorry lol
I did not like how they overlooked character beats and regressed some of them. The thing that made me tilt my head the most was when Morgan wore that weird outfit to school, knowing full well that Giselle has a knack for fashion design and creating clothes. And you cannot tell me they did not have the right things to make a dress in that big old house. The shoe horning of conflict between Morgan and Gisele was super transparent. And didn't she open a fashion design company? I guess Disney didn't want to tell the audience that Giselle became a stay-at-home mom.
My point exactly-if they had time to make that outfit, then they had time to make something less tacky with other options around the home. Making that outfit is shoehorning a conflict, when there was the central conflict that could have been expanded on: Giselle's wishes overshadowing everybody else's
I know they're using stupid-movie logic to make the plot happen. But I would rather go to school smelling like coffee than wear my "mother's" 1950's hand me downs. And seriously when did Giselle's wardrobe go from NYC fashion designer to retro sitcom housewife.
I kinda get why Morgan went into her teen years like that - having a literal fairy tale princess as your stepmom would be fun for all of about a week, then the constant singing and trying to make everything sugary coated positive would get very old, very very fast. After enough years of having her problems, concerns and serious issues turned into a Disney song with an accompanying positivity pun, I can see why Morgan would be somewhat bitter and withdrawn - she probably doesn't think Giselle is taking her seriously or has any sort of deep, wise or helpful advice on dealing with life's challenges.
Morgan deserved to pout in this movie. She got moved into an incomplete house and a new school out of nowhere, got her clothes incinerated, wasn't regarded as a "true daughter", etc. But since she's a teenager, she's made out to be the bad guy
Yes!! I hate how any teenager's problems in movies are overlooked and they are made out to be bad guys for not being compliant to their parent's every wish and expectation.
As an army brat my first inclination is to say *gently* get over it when it comes to moving but as a parent I'm like, dude Giselle you couldn't wait one year for Morgan to graduate?
I just watched this show and remembered literally loving the original - I'm 23 now and actually enjoyed this movie a bit. I think the first half was a little boring for me but it picked up and even with all its clichés it was very cute and to me really showed the love and reality of having a true and loving step parent. And even the bustle of adult life and living with a long term partner and how the dynamic changes over time. It was really cute when Robert says he loves and is happiest with Giselle. It was definitely a heart warmer for a hopeless romantic like me and the music was kinda on point ngl.
Same. 25 for me but the first one was huge on my childhood and the first half was promising but after that wish it went down hill and made no sense. That subplot with him becoming a beast slayer was so weird and random
I think this would have worked better if the family went to Andalasia in the first act of the movie for a vacation or perhaps some big event Edward and Nancy were planing. That way Morgan could have the same back and forth her parents had in the first movie with someone else. Fish out of water, cynical real world experiences person and the happy sweet fairy tale person Of course then there can be some world ending magic occurring and the family has to work together or even bring resources from the real world
I find it funny in the first movie Giselle tells Morgan that not all step mothers are evil but in this one immediately recognizes she's turning into that trope😅
Also, wouldn't this imply evil characters in fantasy land don't choose to be evil? Like Queen Narissa, Prince Edward's step mother didn't choose to be evil? Would enough time in the real world allow her to gain free will & become good like her servant, Nathaniel did? Was that really a revelation or did he just gain free will?
I hate when films or real people say stuff like "oh teenagers are just like this" but no they're not. Being depressed isn't normal and I think she's right to feel upset if she liked living in New York. For me it pisses me off mostly because I'm a very quiet shy person and when I became a teenager people were like oh my goodness you've changed so much and it's like I haven't changed I'm just honest now
@@kevinkenobipius1557 The kid never claimed that 'nothing worse possibly exists.' Having to move when you don't want to isn't the end of the world, but it's understandable that she wasn't happy about it either. There's no need to invalidate that, as if everyone has to plaster on big fake smiles at all the times because nobody's allowed to show any sign of unhappiness unless they're going through a level 10 tragedy.
Morgan used to be confident and sassy in a good way. I understand that adolescence changes people, but it's like she's not even the same person anymore.
I just love how both movies make fun of all of the classic Disney plots and logic like all stepmothers being evil and how there's only ever one villain
I will say that Disenchanted is NOT like the other cliche Disney films, where there's an evil stepmother, who killed her husband, abuses the stepdaughter, who finally goes to the ball... blah blah blah. But Giselle accidently turning into an evil stepmother is VERY different, I will say that!
The whole point of Enchanted was to bring a little fantasy to Roberts life and a little reality to Giselles life. They both had lived the opposite and it wasn't the ideal and they each learned valuable lessons coming together in that middle ground. Giselle already learnt the lesson that sometimes reality is better than Fantasy, she did not need to learn it again! However Morgan was the little girl who loved the fantasy and the magic of Giselle and she grew up and life got harder. They moved to a different place, where she had no friends and it wasn't all fun and friendship like I imagine her childhood was like with Giselle as a stepmother. If Morgan had then made the wish and gotten a little more than she asked for then this movie would have been about her learning the lesson that Fantasy isn't all it's cracked up to be and reality is ultimately better. It even seemed to be setting this up with Morgan being miserable and calling Giselle her 'Stepmother' and then enviously looking at the wand that was given to her baby sister... I don't understand at all how they deviated from this plot! Giselle had very little to be miserable about. Sure her life had changed but her outlook hadn't. She wanted to fix everything for Morgan but Morgan was far more miserable with the decision to move and was suffering more because of this decision. None of the songs really had meaning, Morgan's character became empty and boring after the wish and Nobody seemed to know what to do with Robert so they literally kept sending him away... The plot would have made 10 times more sense had Morgan made the wish and it could have been a beautiful story about the mother daughter relationship growing and changing as Morgan grew and changed and realised that she was lucky to have Giselle as a mother and realise that a 'stepmother' type character is a far worse prospect than what she had. It's not an original story, we've seen it a million times before but these writers nowadays are trying to changed the tried and tested storytales to be new an interesting but they change them so much that they just don't make sense anymore. Also what happened to Giselle's booming Clothing Company? She was making a killing doing that at the end of the first movie and they seemed to completely forget about it. Could have solved Morgan's first day of school issues if her mother had just made her a new outfit over night. She did it twice in the first movie. Basically while I was watching I couldn't help but keep imagining a better plot.
Before reading this comment i thought the movie was perfect or because i was blinded by nostalgia. But now after reading your comment i realized the movie would have been soo much better if the writers did what you just said. It would make a lot of sense that morgan would make the wish because she was soo miserable and it could have made the movie special in its own way like the first movie did. Thank u soo much for opening my eyes to a way better plot then expected and made me wish the writers thought of that concept. I still like the movie a lot but i much rather would prefer your vision compare to what we got and it could of been a classic for generations to come.
You're welcome I think but I feel like I should apologise haha 🤣 unfortunately that's just my writers brain thinking too much. I ruin most shows for myself by over analysing but for this one the whole time I was thinking... "Why didn't Morgan make the wish?" from the second Giselle took the wand lol. I really wish they had gone this way cause I'm honestly a sucker for mother daughter dynamic films. They get killed off so often to make the childs life more difficult and harder (well rounded people with healthy childhoods don't make for good tv unfortunately) but I love movies that do explore these relationships and would have absolutely loved if they did that but.... oh well. Gotta be different and try something 'new' even if it doesn't make sense. I love Enola Holmes for this reason alone.
Hmmm that would have been interesting but the reason Morgan didn’t take the wand in the first place and make a wish was because she didn’t believe she was the true daughter of andalasia but realized that at the end I guess they could have cut some other stuff out for it to make sense.
Yeah it just seemed like a bit of a cop out that she couldn't use the wand. It's like they just put that in there so Giselle had to use it even though her motive was weaker and they can't have a baby use it.
Yeah, this is it exactly. It's really like the did have the right idea in mind and almost like a new writer came in and changed it but left a few things in the script from the original story and forgot to take them out when the direction changed from Morgan to Giselle. I just really wish now that I could see the movie the way I imagine it haha
the reason she didn’t make Morgan clothes (i think) is because her songs aren’t woking anymore and so the clothes might not come out well - the one of the main reasons why she wants to wish for a fairytale
Enchanted was a love letter to Disney fans. It was a commentary on some of the best and worst Disney fairytale tropes and ~why~ some of those tropes needed to be put to rest. (Re: the whole friggin story of The Little Mermaid. Hans Christian Anderson’s original tale feels so much more contemporary compared to what Disney gave us.) It was also a promise to change how their stories were told in the future. Those in charge of getting Disenchanted made missed the mark on what made the first movie so fresh. It feels like they shot with the first draft of a script or (gulp) decided to bring in a new script after shooting half of the movie and try to work it in with what they’ve already shot. (Re: Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness). I was looking forward to revisiting these. The actors were phenomenal and probably elevated the story they had. But, I am completely disenchanted with Disenchanted.
10:21, no Alex, you are not the only one. They could keep their “true love kiss is the strongest magic” and still make this movie about the mother-daughter relationship. Like “Maleficent”, be a kiss on the cheek or the forehead or something, it’s still love, just a different kind of love ❤
I've definitely been one of the people waiting for a sequel, and this was a cute movie, but it didn't feel like a sequel to Enchanted. It felt like it could have been its own standalone movie unrelated to enchanted. It's like the writers are either completely different than the writers for Enchanted and forgot their own movie, or these are new writes that barely watched the first movie and just used it as a reason to make their own movie.
Atleast i'm happy they didn't make morgan hate her beautiful room bc "ew gross colors are for girly girls and i'm not like other girls i'm special" Edit: i watched the first one to understand the second movie and the whole time i was watching i was like "i bet alex will make fun of this"
@@trinaq I feel like Disenchanted is slightly better than Hocus Pocus 2 as a sequel because it tries to tell a different story. I liked HP2, but it was quite similar to the first one in my opinion. I didn't get this feeling with Disenchanted, so I think it's nice !
i guess but the characters changed too much, i didnt even like giselle in this one tbh she was just annoying and the awful story and other stuff doesnt help
I'll be honest, I kinda liked the twist that stopping the hands of the clock stops the effect from being permanent. It makes sense from what it was said about the effect and it ties up with the whole fairy tail logic, so it doesn't seem like a whole lot of asspull.
The one villain with the bob and bangs from the introduction of them is in The Good Place, and she was the judge to determine weather the main characters go to the good place or the bad place. She is extremely sassy and gives off the same vibes as my best friend’s mom I love her (as an actress she’s a really good actress)
I don’t understand why they regressed Giselle’s character and had her still be extremely innocent after all this time. By the end of the first movie you could tell she’d grown a lot and become a more mature person but in this movie she just acts like no time has passed at all. This movie could’ve been about the family losing the magic that originally made them come together and have to rekindle it in some way. But nope, because this has to be an unnecessary rewind of a movie that didn’t really need a sequel
Ever since Idina Menzel got famous for Elsa (Frozen) if you watch the end credits for Disenchanted, it says "With Idina Menzel." When she was in the first Enchanted movie, no one gave a crap about her... (It was also before she was famous for singing).
I chuckled when pip started to speak because I had the recent memory of alex saying how terrible it would be if they decided to have a talking pip the whole movie😂 . honestly the one fun part were all the hidden (and some not so) hints of Disney princess movies. my favourite was the Ariel one because me and my sister had just listed what we had and hadn't seen yet😆
To be fair my family did move out to our new house before it was finished because something something, schedules collided a bit too close and the changes were a bit more than expected, so I am not surprised their house is on the same state. For a while we all had to sleep on the floor on one room because it was the only place that wasn't covered in dust or fresh paint.
Besides Giselle's empire and her magical way of making clothes (+ a kiss being the most powerful magic), I think the movie was fine as it was and enjoyed it quite a lot. I'll try to answer questions from my perspective. First, Giselle probably became strained, tired and disillusioned with her life in New York City. After ten years, she probably felt homesick and wanted to move somewhere that more closely resembled her realm, where she could have a house in a safer neighborhood (after living in NYC for such a long time she probably encountered some nasty people, which don't exist in Andalasia unless they are villains) and with a garden where her baby could play and have more freedom. A lot of people move to the suburbs after having babies because they want a higher quality life for their children, where there is less pollution, less danger and kids can play outside. It's not uncommon, I would say in fact, that is is very common. I myself loved abroad for more than ten years and even though it was new and exciting at first, I'm already tired and want to go back to my country if origin. I own my apartment where I live right now and have a few friends and a good job (though my work can be done from anywhere in the world as long as I have a computer). But I keep missing my childhood friends and family, and my friends of now the bond isn't as deep as it is with my childhood friends. We can also deduce that she and Robert talked at length about the move and be conceded with it by saying he would just commute to work and she probably sold her fashion line. Again, a lot of people work away from home, some people ride trains for three hours just to get to their work place. Many times it's because where they live housing is more affordable and they do not wish to buy a house near their working place for reasons like money to being too busy and loud, etc. Again, a lot of parents move away and take their children despite them having to lose their friends and environment. Parents will decide what is best for them as a family, not one individual. Being that for the baby it is better to live in a peaceful, safe, beautiful, clean air, big garden house, I would say it's an important matter. We also do not know how Giselle felt those ten years, she already abandoned her magical world for Robert and New York, maybe their relationship was having issues because Giselle wasn't happy anymore, and again, as a family, the best decision would be to move away. It's already two people in the family that the move is being considered for .... Probably three, counting Robert, if it was placing a strain on their relationship. I can also imagine that Giselle maybe changed her priorities after having a baby. Many women after having a baby will quit their job (it happens a lot in more conservative countries like China, Japan and Korea and being that Andalasia is still stuck in the mentality of a princess being rescued by a prince I would classify them as conservative too). We also know that any well in the world can serve as a portal to Andalasia, so there was no specific reason for her to stay stuck in NYC because of that. We also do not know if Giselle stopped herself from visiting Andalasia with fear that it would make her regret her choice even more (it happens). When it comes to clothes, just because Morgan has a different taste than Giselle doesn't mean Giselle will not stop pushing her to dress just like her. A lot of parents are like that, wanting their children to emulate them and just because Giselle is magical doesn't mean she is perfect. She was probably confused as well, Morgan maybe dressed in princess like dresses, made by Giselle, until she was 12 or 13, and then suddenly changed her taste. Being the fact that supposedly there aren't any "angsty teenagers" in Andalasia and women always dress from childhood to adulthood in gown dresses, Giselle was probably confused. Let's not forget that even people in the "normal world" can be dense when it comes to other people's culture and beliefs, yet we live in a world with internet, with access to everything, we can study and learn about anything we want, and we still try to convince others to change their beliefs or make them "see" our way is better. Also, let's not forget, Giselle clearly had post partum depression, her magical powers were not working ... Animals didn't care about her or listened to her, so it's normal she couldn't magically make a dress for Morgan. The movie did a great job in "showing", not "telling". We were supposed to understand her and everyone else mental state, they were all exhausted mentally and emotionally. Even though Giselle tried to be positive, the actress did a great job, in a lot of scenes, even though she was smiling, i could see her wanting to snap and cry or scream. Her singing a lot again is also a side effect of her depression, she was trying to soothe herself and being more magic to her life again, when everything was easy. Let's not forget Giselle was basically raised by animals, her understanding of human norms and interactions when it comes to a human family or having children is non-existent. It's fine when you have to take care of a 7 year old child who you can basically just play with and talk to get your point across, another thing is dealing with a newborn baby. Even new parents with a lot of support and from big families can find themselves in a difficult position when they have their first baby. And being that Robert is a lawyer, he is probably away most of the time for work, Giselle has no one to teach her or help her take care of a baby (like a grandmother or mother or aunt), which again she doesn't understand how to deal with. Especially when in Andalasia babies are magically happy all the time, so intelligent they barely need any care (because again even animals can raise a baby there) and probably always healthy with no dangers (like the baby rolling while sleeping and start losing oxygen).
I liked the concept of Disenchanted, and I think I really enjoyed James Marsden and Idina Menzel more than the MAIN main characters. But I thought there was less substance to the musical numbers and the character development felt a bit more rushed. Giselle literally changed reality and Robert and Morgan were acting against their will, without their knowledge, in roles that Giselle gave them. It was….a bit strange to see them gain consciousness of the growing conflict without getting upset that it happened at all? Idk. I know it’s a Disney movie, so… 😂 Amy Adams is still a legend. It was fun seeing her have these Golum/Smeagol moments as an evil stepmother. Also, Giselle’s baby is a reference to Sofia the First maybe? 😂 also ever since Avengers Infinity War, it’s like Disney discovered a way to off characters in a sad and clean way. AKA disappearing into a glowing, sparkly dust.
I saw this movie recently and I like it. It doesn't beat the original, but it's nice to see these characters back and to know that all the leads had fond memories of the original movie that they were open to do a sequel. If you saw the original in the cinemas, this is a nice little bonus and I feel that this one is just made to sit down and have a good time and not worry about things too much.
Fun fact: The guy who directed Enchanted also directed A Goofy Movie, which explains why it's such a masterpiece. (He also directed Tarzan) How do I know this? Erm, let's just say I've watched these two movies way too many times, and one day I noticed the name on the credits
To me it felt like the whole movie undermined the plot of the original. Giselle learns that having singing animals and an overnight romance isn’t all there is to it. She falls in love with Robert and his world and loved this new world more than she ever loved Edward or her fairytale world. Morgan LOVED princesses and was happy to have Giselle as a stepmom because she was a living Disney princess. Giselle loved Robert for not being a fairytale, and Morgan loved Giselle for being a fairytale, and this movie tries to erase all that. Giselle isn’t happy without her “prince charming” and “fairytale life” and Morgan is just annoyed by Giselle and her whimsy. It was just kinda sad so watch everything that made these characters charming in the first movie get flopped on its head
I disagree that it undermind the original. The first movie had Giselle learn that there was more to love than what happens in fairy tales, but now she's realizing just how tough the real world is, especially in the areas of parenting. Morgan isn't a whimsical child anymore, and while she did show genuine appreciation that Giselle ensured that she had a bedroom ready for her (Giselle even said she could change the decoration!), bad luck just happened. Breakfast was a disaster, showing that Giselle is struggling with being a caretaker. Giselle's "whimsy" is really just her oversimplifying problems, which makes her come across as out of touch with the situation (and why Morgan gets upset with her). In her moment of weakness, it makes her wish, quite literally, for a time when things weren't so complicated. That's very relatable.
Before watching your YT video, I watched this video and I LITERALLY imagined your exact response when the squirrel said, "She became what that world calls a teenager." 😆
12:25 "It's one of them sassy scrolls that talks like the robot from Treasure Planet." Nah it's just Alan Tudyk doing his usual voice contribution to a Disney film. Only this time he chose to reprise his role of King Candy. Not sure if that's any better...
The magical town was built in Enniskerry in Ireland. I live in Ireland so I went there and the whole town was completely transformed. It was really cool. It felt like I was in a movie.
I really enjoy your reviews, but I was wondering if you would ever do a video on something like, "Ten films I love but everybody hates"? And then you could touch on infamous films from the last ten years? Also, I thoroughly agree on how you feel about 'Enchanted', that it is surprisingly relevant and stands on its own!
I was so disappointed in this sequel. I wish the plot had gone in the opposite direction. Like I would've loved to see Giselle's experiences with motherhood and Morgan trying to make friends at her new school while her stepmom tries to fit in with the other moms. And then by the end, they both realize they don't necessarily need to fit in, because being unique is much more special, or something like that. An actual continuation of Giselle's story would've been so much more interesting and relevant in my opinion.
Yeah tbh I would have loved it if it just stayed in the real world most of the time and it’s more about them (Giselle/Robert/Morgan) trying to fit in in Monroeville, eventually realising that they don’t need to (although more scenes in Andalaisia too would be nice)
I actually thought Disenchanted was fun. Although I really do wish they would have mad Sophia older and that whole sibling rivalry could have worked better. But in all, I liked it.
I'd also like to say that even though it didn't seem like Robert had a purpose in this movie, that was his purpose. In the fairy tale world, he becomes a hero and finds his worth. Hence why he goes on to open his own practice.
I forgot almost every song from that movie that I watched yesterday, except that Evil Contest between Evil Giselle and Evil Judge From The Good Place, that one lives in my head now. Also another great aspect from the movie that stayed from the original : amazing costumes. That peacock dress is perfection.
Honestly the whole memories/true love's kiss being the most powerful magic thing could've been so easily resolved. They lampshade so much tropes in the first movie, so just have Idina say that line, then follow it up with a deadpan, 'Well, that and true love's kiss. And clocks striking midnight. And objects guarded by dragons. And...' It's an easy joke, and problem solved. They could have Amy saying it too, in Giselle's trademark naïve fashion, but I think it'd work better with Idina. Who, by the way, should never be forced to have bangs, damn they did her a disservice here.
I agree with Alex the best part of this film is how gracefully everyone has aged
Ironically they all look better irl than animated this time around (since the new animation is terrible)
@@sadie9728 Real the old animation is way better
@@sadie9728 I literally said WTF, when it switched over to animation. The original animation was so good, and this looked like some Korean knock off animation.
They all are so beautiful!
Amy Adams looks like she hasn't aged a day from the last one while Robert looks forty years older
I have to give Amy Adams credit for her acting throughout this entire movie. The way she seamlessly switches between two personalities is immaculate
absolutely she’s amazing
She perfectly nails that “animated” style of acting. Tbh she was the only good part of this movie.
Two is, but how about 5?
Amy Adams is one of the more talented actresses in recent years
The acting in this movie is the only thing saving it. Along with some cool set design. But the plot is just so mid
Robert and Giselle's baby was basically a living prop, who didn't really add much to the plot. It might have made more sense if she were a few years younger than Morgan, and could actually interact with her as sisters, with drastically different personalities.
Yeeeah the only reason she existed was to have Elsa and Edward bring the wand
Watched Modern Gurlz huh?
@@JadoDog yeah but maybe instead of it being her present because she was just born have it be her 6th birthday present or something
Just like Morgan was a plot device for the first movie lol
Yeah but then she can also use the wand in the end. I think they wanted the mother- daughter moment between Morgan and Giselle.
Giselle had been in NY for 10 years, she should have not been so awkward still.
Ikr! That’s what bugged me about this movie the most, she was still mentally living in fantasyland
Also, I might be very wrong here, I thought she stopped with the bursting into song thing in the first movie?
@@ElvenSkywalker yeah that's what annoyed me right away, how is she still the exact same person. I think she is even more bubbly and unbelievably naive this time around.
Maybe she only hung out with the fellow NYC musical theater moms. That could leave her awkward
Native NY'er here - we can absolutely spot the folks who moved here versus grew up here, even if they've lived in NYC for 20+ years. 😂 That said, I'm assuming the bubbliness is inherent to her personality, not so much a product of where/how she's living.
I honestly like how they tried to stop the clock to stop the spell being permanent. It's because the prophecy is always "When the clock strikes 12" not "When it is midnight" so what better way to prevent it from being permanent than to literally stop the clock from striking 12?
Same, wasn’t expecting that ngl 😂 I thought they would just… woo and the plot would resolve before midnight
Don't you just love contractual loopholes?
@@PHSDM104 Yes.
@@PHSDM104 I mean, Robert *is* a lawyer, so I'm not surprised he's the one who brought it up XD
i loved that that worked
Enchanted worked because it was about bringing magic to the real world. So Robert being cynical and the riffs on fairy tales was funny or wholesome. I think my favorite representation of this was during That's How You Know when the construction workers danced and posed to Giselle's singing or when the bikers crashed into Edward when he tried to sing.
Disenchanted tried to swap it, bringing the real world into a fairy tale. Problem was, by transforming everyone into character tropes, it just resulted in a... generic fairy tale movie. None of the characters were who we liked in the original movie. There was way too much singing which would usually be fine with me but the songs were so cookie cutter and bland.
Yesssss thank you, I hated the songs of this one, so many and they brought nothiiiing
"STOP SINGING!!!"
😆😆😆
Yep.
Once upon a time and 10th kingdom did it better.
It could’ve been cute but it missed the mark on enough camp and creativity
Gizelle used to make dresses from curtains and had her own clothing line for children. Why didn’t she make more clothes for Morgan?
Good question.
but I wish she still had some of the whimsical charm she had as a kid and Fun fact: The guy who directed Enchanted also directed A Goofy Movie, which explains why it's such a masterpiece.
Soooo Disenchanted was directed by a diferent one,v
My eyes are so open
They should have brought that director back and somehow given Giselle and Morgan a fairy tale flavored mother-daughter version of Goofy and Max's arc...
(Edit: can see how that would sound like a rehash, but a GOOD rehash of a GOOD movie, and made into/used as a sequel in a way that actually makes sense - it CAN be done)
@@whyiamafs if they got the director who made the goofy movie, the direction would've taken a completely different turn in SUCH a good way. the relationship between goofy and max is just so.. fun. giselle and morgan could've had what they had, its sad that isnt reality.
I hate how they didn't keep any of Giselle's character growth from the first movie. Like she didn't sing at the end because she was becoming a real person
I think she can be a real person but still enjoy singing
THIS!!!
@@Turtlemmd I mean that would be great it if weren't the whole point of the ballroom scene in the first movie. There is someone else singing because it represents how she grew out of her stereotypical "princess" persona.
@@Turtlemmd true but she sang way too much which made it seem like she didnt have any growth
@Katie Logue I kinda saw it as she didn't sing along because she was already in love with Robert. Not because she was changing. I would expect her to sing a lot with Robert and Morgan because she truly loves them
What's crazy is they had 15 years to get this right. It feels like it was written at 10PM when the assignment is due at midnight.
Yeah, but they jammed something in the clock to give them more time to finish writing it.
I was so excited to watch this, enchanted was my life when I was 6 years old but 21 year old me is so disappointed with this movie :(
agree
I felt the same way about Incredibles 2.
Dang it Incredibles 2 was HORRIBLE!!
This doesnt make any sense, Giselle literally started a fashion designer company called Andelasia fashions at the end of the first movie and as you said could make dresses with the animals and any fabric with ease. Why is Morgan without any clothes or fashionable dresses/ outfits to wear? If anything, Morgan should be best friends with Giselle and be an accomplished fashion designer herself.
Morgan and Giselle obviously grew to have very different styles though. Morgan probably would’ve loved the splashes of color as a young child, but you can see it darkened as she got older.
@@caitlynjs97 I still think Giselle should have known how to make clothes that were more in line with Morgan's likes after 10 years of living with her in New York. If anything, the whole clothes got burned thing should have not been an issue.
yess that was what modern gurlz said too. where did the fashion sense poof off to?
I kinda mentioned that to my family how it would've been neat to see something like that, and it was weird they didn't mention she did have a fashion empire. If anything the sequel should have been more a role reversal of her and Robert in the first movie where maybe she's over worked/tired and Robert is the one trying to add more magic into their lives. Or better yet having the new baby be maybe Morgan's age in the first one and her making the bone-headed wish and seeing it backfire
@@naolucillerandom5280 IKR "Morgan chill out, i can literally make clothes out of curtains"
Watched this movie today and had already forgotten that the baby existed. Also Robert added literally nothing to the movie. If he left a note on a fridge saying he had to go out of town and just not having the actor there, there would have been not a single difference to it.
I also caught the "love's true kiss is most powerful" and then this movie retconning it with memories...
I thought the same thing lol. They must not have had much of a mcdreamy budget lmao. Who knows what that guy charges now
The sentenced both robert and Edward to the useless abyss they send guys to in movies now. See Kristoff in Frozen 2
I did think Disenchanted was a lot of fun, but I do agree. There were a few too many songs, Gisele was basically Wanda and the first film was perfect on its own.
The Wanda comparison is spot on
@@jamiegdubois I mean, it kinda works for Gisele as well. But, I could just see MoM Wanda
only that giselle had no reason to do it. i was just thinking why dont u just take the whole family back to your fairy tale land instead of cursing the world.
@@rihana_1604 that's a good point, actually
I was yelling "OMG Gisele is Wanda!" Throut the whole movie. Glad to see I wasn't alone on this one
Im mostly just pissed that they decided to move to the suburbs when in New York they had:
-a nice apartment
-a local, decently paying job for robert
-Morgan’s entire social life/education system
-Giselle’s (forgotten??) fashion *EMPIRE*
-all of Giselle’s animal friends
-Giselle’s home, that she decided to stay in over her magic treehouse thing
-A portal to another world
-Any friends Giselle/Robert might have/have made (that are never mentioned)
AND THEY DECIDED TO MOVE TO THE SUBURBS BECAUSE GISELLE F E L T LIKE IT????
ROBERT STILL GOES TO HIS OLD JOB
MORGAN’S SCHOOL/SOCIAL LIFE ISN’T ANY BETTER
GISELLE ISNT ANY HAPPIER IN THE SUBURBS
W H Y DID THEY PUT SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY INTO MOVING IF THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO OTHER THEN GISELLE’S F E E L I N G S
I'm pretty sure the baby was introduced only as a justification to have them move. The opening narration said the apartment got too cramped with the baby so they moved, but otherwise the baby did nothing lol
broo I forgot the baby existed
budget. mostly i think. closing new york for shooting is pricey compared to a set. the writing is another problem lol
I completely forgot about Giselle's fashion thing too, why did they just throw that out the window??!?!
@@cheese3123 That would’ve been GREAT to see!
I'm not over how we were robbed of James Marsden in this film. His Sonic the Hedgehog shooting schedule puts him in this film for about five minutes.
Agreed, half of his screentime is in his animated form, and I know that they had to work around his busy schedule, but I wished that James could have been in more scenes.
I was wondering where he was!!
All of the men were so unjustifiably sidelined in this film... Edward barely did anything, Robert was relegated to being an irrelevant side character, and Tyson didn't even have any characterization besides being the stereotypical "prince".
Well, at least he was with Sonic! EEP! :)
Though I feel absolutely torn because I would have loved to have seen him more in this film. :)
Yeah that pissed me off more than anything about this movie honestly
Morgan didn't really need a love interest in my opinion that was unnecessary. The movie should have just revolved around Morgan and Giselle's relationship, Morgan learning about magic and how she can use it to save the day. Also her love interest had no personality and we didn't get to see their relationship evolve that much so having him in the movie was pointless.
I thought the love interest was because of the wish.
Live interests almost always makes things at least a little more interesting and make the movie a little more appealing to more audience demographics and types of people. I don't mind it tbh, nit every movie had to be like fkng Moana
@@youknowimright1725 I guess. I mean it really depends on what your going for with the movie
I also think the same.
The love interest was meant to add another element to the fairytale life
I'm so sad Morgan stopped being whimsical but the teen years do that to ya
but I wish she still had some of the whimsical charm she had as a kid. she loved fairy tales and princesses. you can still be happy and into those things as a teen. not all teens are edgy and gloomy
Exactly! That's how I felt too. Though it was awfully interesting to see a Disney Princess like Giselle deal with a gloomy teenager like Morgan.
However it would have been much different if Morgan was exactly that you wished her to be.
teen years suck
@@andreasmeelie1889 ..and is that a bad thing?
EXACTLY
I would have found it interesting if she was still into fairytales, but villains instead of princesses, hence why she acts so edgy/gloomy (also if she struggled to dislike evil Giselle because of her fascination with villains, that would be interesting LOL)
James Marsden not being in this film longer is unforgivable. He was one of the best/funniest parts of the original movie and had me cracking up
That’s par for the course for James Marsden. He usually gets little to nothing to do
and he’s so hot 😭 he was in hairspray and the original enchanted and he was always my crush.
weird bc zac efron and elijah kelley (both hot af) were in hairspray and as a kid i was like no i like the older guy 😂 must be my daddy issues but i stand with it, james marsden is top tier
@erikablu429 the biggest crime of this movie is basically no Edward
And how has he hardly aged
@@erikablu429I’m practically in love with Zac and James so I was incredibly spoiled watching Hairspray LMAO
The funniest thing about the premise of the movie is that their apartment isn't even that small. Because let's be real here, the only reason they didn't do another sequel in NYC again is just budgetary and logistical reasons. It was already hard enough when they had to shoot scenes at times squares, and a whole musical segment in central park for the first movie and i love the first movie for it.
Their apartment was larger than some small houses😅
"The apartment is getting small because of the baby"
No it's not it's a baby😂
and honestly i dont get why people are mad at that lol. like for what its worth they accomidated for the budget cuts in REALLY smart ways. none of the movie felt lazy to me.
@@zestytriss5282 do you...know how much a baby requires? like they had TWO rooms and a pretty small kitchen thats somehow supposed to hold all of their stuff PLUS bottles(and all the equipment that comes with them), diapers, a bassonet, a crib, AND stroller(s). babies require a LOT.
Ikr, like, if you rewatch Enchanted, that apartment is pretty big
Enchanted's plot was innovative, had a few twists and left Giselle a new woman with love but also professional ambition.
Disenchanted's plot is basically a Christmas hallmark movie at this point.
Big city = bad
Suburbs = good
Fashion empire = has become non-existent
Stay-at-home suburbmom = only valid option for Giselle
Also the movie was supposed to be about giselle and her step daughter but it was all pushed aside and some weird prince came into the story.They absolutely did not need a prince in this movie his character was weird and annoying tbh.they could have just gave his screentime to giselle and morgan and developed their relationship.morgan also never apologised for misbehaving with giselle throughout the movie (without any spell) and giselle apologised for behaving how she was under a spell.
The way you losers pretend this trash ass movie is art or some shit actually kills me LOL its not that deep
Why can’t Giselle want to raise her child??
Exactly! Enchanted was fun, clever and had great humor. Disenchanted feels like they’re checking off boxes for a cheesy fantasy movie
@@arabellastringer3788 it’s not that it’s that she isn’t really given the option to choose between her job and her child. The movie just decides she’s a stay at home mom now
I really enjoyed the movie, but the main thing I was disappointed by is that there was no mention of Giselle’s business. She started a business called Andalasia Fashions, selling clothes made by herself and animals, and it would have been cool to see her succeeding as an entrepreneur in NYC.
Instead, she’s basically a housewife? I was a little disappointed with that.
The best character in disenchanted imo was Nancy, who works so well as a no nonsense kind queen of andalasia (also Idina’s song is gorgeous).
I do also agree that Robert and Edward were heavily underused. Wish we could have seen more of Robert and Giselle’s relationship
I don't see problem with Giselle as housewife (she has small child, of course she would like break from her work to be with her child) but they should have mention her giving herself a break from her work. It was nice ending (of first movie) for her to bring a bit of magic into clothes. She could also do remote work or part-time designing clothes. They should have mentioned it somehow
What’s wrong with being a housewife, plus after more than decade, there’s such a thing called maternity leave and if her fashion brand grew she might have hired other employees at some point, including assistants or a team to manage her business while she settles with her new family life. There’s nothing wrong with a woman being in the home with her baby, especially if it’s what she chose, and I’m pretty sure a woman who’s literally a fairytale princess would enjoy motherhood, equal rights and choice and all that.
Not saying there’s anything wrong with being a housewife, was just disappointed that her business wasn’t even mentioned particularly in regards to the move. If she has a business set up in NYC her moving away would surely impact that. Mat leave is obviously important but there was no mention. If they had said, idk “Giselle moved on from her business to focus on her family” that would have made sense but there was no mention at all
I loved the movie as well surprisingly and I thought it was a decent sequel at most. I do think the movie was rushed and on a much lower budget than the first movie. However, the costuming was beautiful (minus Morgan’s blue dress, I don’t know why but I hate it and it looks so cheap compared to everyone else’s costume.)
Seeing how people mentioned her business, now makes me wonder why it was never mentioned. It was as if it never existed, and this proves that most sequels forget what’s established in their first movie. I am glad to see that none of the characters had an unnecessary change in personality. Even Morgan, I think her growing up shows how she’s changed because she was a little girl and now she’s not.
Overall, I think with a higher budget and whoever worked on the first movie had worked with the second movie it would’ve been perfect. Also if it didn’t seem rushed I think it would be better liked.
The creation of Andalasia Fashions was such a cool part of the first movie! I’m so disappointed it wasn’t mentioned.
I think the main problem I have with this movie is taking Giselle out of the city and into the suburb place that doesn’t look real which was what made the first movie charming, a fairy tale person in this real world, Monroville just looks like a Disney neighborhood.
Exactly this! Also, it would've been funny if the fairytale world version of the suburbs was still like the suburbs? Like Onward almost?
exactly, this story wouldve worked way better (still wouldnt have been the best though) if it was still in new york.
Yep... The sequel should of been about the family visiting Andalasia, while seeing Edward and Nancy ruling the kingdom and a mysterious danger lerking about.
@@normadgarmez7026 But then we would’ve had to deal with more of the amazing 2D animation… 😐
A lot changed due to Covid, while they were filming. Because of that, I feel like it got downgraded.
Alex Meyers has always been consistently honest with his reviews. He never sugarcoats anything.
I KNOW!! That's why he's so cool! He never plays favorites!
Except his review for Wanda Vision was really off but I'm a huge fan of his
Alex Meyers has always been consistently honest with his reviews. He never sugarcoats anything.
I will agree that he's honest, but I would say that there are other creators who don't sugarcoat anything either
Precisely, I love how Alex always calls things as he sees them, he's one of my favourite TH-camrs!
DEFINITELY needed more James Marsden in Disenchanted. And in more movies period.
To be honest, I needed more Robert in this movie. Now he was just running around and singing for a bit.
Yes and more Edward
I read that he wasn't in it as much because of filming Westworld and Sonic at the same time.
@@MovieMaiden no you’re thinking of Edward
Reminds me of Kristoff in Frozen II lol. These people don't know what to do with Disney princes.
My problem with this sequel is that follows every possible trope, from the rebel teenager to the problems she has with Giselle and them moving against her will, while the first movie just did the complete opposite by subverting movie tropes
Well, just like Alex said at the beginning, movie companies are like those little gerbils you get as pets and who spend their time in the darkest corner of their cage, curled up and trembling and jumping at the slightest sound: they only bet on extremely prudent projects like sequels, and those have to be choke full of tropes, because tropes are reassuring and don't offend anyone.
What's that you said? You want ORIGINALITY? Are you crazy? Do you how much good writers cost, and how high the risk is some random idiot on Twitter might possibly perhaps find something slightly not totally aligned with their particular political beliefs and artistic taste in your original, non-tropey movie? I mean, have you seen Twitter's CEO? No no no, we can't have that! Disappointing sequels and soulless franchises and unnecessary reboots it is! Shut up, just consume!
@@sacha8uk Customers: okay then I guess you don't need my money then.
Disney: RRRREEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEE
@@normadgarmez7026 Disney: How dare you, you bunch of sexist/racist/homophobic/fatphobic/whateverist crying manbabies!
Seriously, remember the made-up controversy about the Little Mermaid? The trailer looked like crap, but one or two braindead idiots complain about her skin color and suddenly the problem lies with the entire fanbase and not with the soulless, money-hungry behemoth churning out yet another pointless, cash-grabby reboot.
Maybe Hollywood will understand one day that people won't be guilted into paying to see Ghostbusters 2016 or Charlie's Angels 2019.
@Katie Logue They went to the She-Hulk School for Screenwriting.
THANK YOU!!! The whole point of the first movie was subversion of all these tropes which makes it even more pathetic they just went and followed every single trope imaginable
My favorite part about Disenchanted is the fact that Disney was making fun of their own trope and still failed. It felt too fast paced, everything was resolved way to quickly, and I hated how they drew the animated parts in a newer style instead of matching the old movie
Edit: the whole scene with the song “Badder” was the best part of the whole movie
Yes I agree also on the animation part!!!
Definitely agree that “Badder” was the best song and part of the movie 👍🏼
It felt very slow paced for me.
I hated how a 'dream' made Maya's charcter suddenly have character developement
@@chanwoomd8384 exactly
Sofia should have been an older child who could have had palpable sibling rivalry. Teenagers usually don't get as upset as a toddler when they get a new sibling. A 4yo old will feel left out when their parents get a baby, not a 16yo 😅
It made no sense for them to wait this long to have a baby.
Maybe it took that long for Robert to teach Giselle how it's done
@@estherpena-nicholas5283honestly that makes no sense too cause it’s been 15 years…..
Maybe that's just how long it took unfortunately
Not necessarily such a big age gap can lead one to feeling like their being replaced especially if the parents changed for the better so the new kid gets all the things the older kid never had. All depends on the person and situation.
Damn, the thing that hurt me was the decreasing quality on the 2Danimation scenes... Surely those traditional animators from 15 years ago are missed
Thank god I'm not the only one who noticed, the difference between the first movie's animation and this one was jarring the body proportions got so weird for Morgan and Nancy at some point
I don't know, I thought it was okay. But maybe I'm just desperate enough for 2d that I don't care anymore X3
No kidding. It felt janky to me
@@Turtlemmd literally me. My face lit up when I realized there was 2D animation I was too busy being google eyes to notice any quality issues.. lol
I'm like seriously, Disney that 2D animation is garbage
Am I ever going to watch this movie again? No.
Will I continue to rewatch the original countless times?! Yes!
Am I ever going to watch this movie again?No!
Am I ever rewatching the previous one?HELL NO!!!
Will I re-listen to the"Badder"song over and over again?Yep.
This is why the Originals is always better!
*cough* Star Wars OT *cough*
Once upon a time did their single musical episode better than the entire movie.
same, the first one was amazing definetly one of my favourite disney movies of all time but this one was one of the worst tbh
@baque yeah wish disney would stop making all these awful remakes and sequels and just make good original movies like they used too
They played the Fairy Tale musical aspect far too straight for a sequel to Enchanted. It was harmless overall, but just wasn't as "enchanting" as the original.
that’s the point, she was trying to recreate the past in her new life and that didnt work because the past is the past hence the name disenchanted
@@ayrisssikes7205 Yeah, I get that was the point, but it didn't work for a sequel to Enchanted, which at its core was a clever and heartfelt "parody" that made lighthearted fun of the Disney tropes. Played it too straight this time around.
@@ayrisssikes7205 i think op meant it was trash but was trying to say it in a nice way
"Shows should be more... what's the word?"
"Gay?"
"Exactly."
I guess the movie does live up to it's name "Disenchanted" , though not in the way people thought it would be.
Maybe they just made the movie so Idina Mendel could sing this time 😆
Hmm probably
I think what was the most disappointing is how the sequel completely abandoned all of the character development of the first movie and, if anything, regressed the characters. I've seen so many suggested plots by other people that have so much more potential. The charm of the first movie was the 'fish out of water' trope and subversion of expectation. By having only Giselle know that the world has changed, it takes away all of the fun of acclimating to the fairytale world for all the other characters. The original movie was self-aware and poked fun at clichés. This movie seemed like it tried to do that but it just came off as unironic. There are far too many unnecessary sub plots too. Half of this movie could have easily been cut, and it would not have impacted the central story line. All this to say that Enchanted was truly ahead of its time. It was great to see the cast again, but this movie was such a missed opportunity.
I did actually like this movie. Morgan was moody in the beginning, but she wasn't mean. She still cared for Giselle and you could tell she outgrew the room, but said she liked it anyway not to hurt Giselle's feelings until her clothes burned. You could see Morgan's patience running out when she said she wanted to figure things out herself and Giselle jumped the gun and the "True daughter of analasia" song made her feel left out. It actually hurt when Morgan said step mom. and you felt Giselle feel bad too. The dynamic between them in the movie made me very invested in it. I do think Robert was underused and Morgan's love interest was unnecessary since he really had no part, but I had fun with the movie.
No one in the movie is really a bad person. There is no villain. Even the Malvina admits that she got a bit too full of herself and extended an offer of friendship to Giselle at the end. Both of them only became "villains" as part of the shift into fairy tale tropes, which really wasn't anyone's fault; Giselle didn't expect her wish to take on a Monkey's Paw angle.
To me, it actually felt like Morgan liked her new room and everything was going well until she flicked that switch and it winded up causing fire and burning her clothes.
I agree. I think Morgan outgrew the room, but I think she also appreciated the thought especially since she was feeling so insecure throughout the movie. Or perhaps Morgan wasn’t lying to save breaking Giselle’s heart and secretly did enjoy some of her childhood tastes.
@@SharikacatI wish we got another true Villain of Andelasia like Queen Narissa. Oh she was so fun to watch.
@Prince Charming and Snowwhite Once Upon a Time to see what the light looks like in her new room that she's never been in.
It's sad because the first one is one of my favorite movies, and I can almost see a good movie in here somewhere. Like if Morgan and Robert had woken up in fairytale land still themselves and then slowly started to act like their 'fairytale counterparts' and Giselle and Morgan could work together to face the threat of the evil Queen so Morgan's character development would actually happen because she could understand where Giselle comes from and Giselle could truly understand how different Morgan's life is. Maybe send both Robert and Morgan to Antalasia so he could actually be a part of the story.
There's part of your third movie. lol
I had to watch the film before this one 😇 My first major question of the film was “What about that fashion line?!” Giselle was very thoughtful for Morgan’s room. I can’t believe no one didn’t think to avoid power outlets with your boxes, especially when there are 4 other blank walls to use. How does the stress disappear when Edward and Nancy arrive. Giselle seems un-phased by having and raising a baby. Must be a natural?
Sofia's just an easy baby to raise. Like, in this musical about evil queens and magic wishes, the most unrealistic part of the movie is when the baby waits until their morning alarm goes off to start crying.
“My hair is so high and my dress is so low! I’m becoming an evil stepmother!” Ok I do love that, that cracked me up
To be fair, in a fairy tale world, stopping a clock from chiming might as well stop time, so if Giselle's wish made the town operate on fairy tale rules, stopping the clock from chiming is a valid strategy.
Idina has such a great voice that I didn’t mind her just singing the words “love power” over and over again for the longest time. 😂 Still the best song in the movie.
I hated it so much but she does have a great voice lol
@Katie Logue literally I told my family "Disney is really just trying to wear out Idinas voice, huh?" - Like I felt like it was just "let's have her hit all these notes no one else can hit again and again for 4 minutes! Ta-da!!"
@Katie Logue Agreed. All of the songs in here didn't really seem to be as playfully catchy or have elaborate sequences like That's How you Know, or the cleanup song.
The movie actors did fine, the art and cgi was pretty good, but my god was the singing and plot god-awful.
"this isn't a bad movie (...) it's just unnecessary (...) what if a bunch a 50yo had to learn about the meaning of love and family... again" This 👏!!!
You perfectly summarised my feelings about this movie.
Why? The characters had already learned all those lessons. There was no need for this sequel.
Gotta love how only purpose of Robert and Giselle's baby in this movie is to signal they had a bit of spicy time at some point in those 10 years.
Thank you Disney i have no idea how i would manage without that information
Nah she’s also the reason they moved out of New York and to make it look like Sofia is the new “daughter” it’s to make Morgan’s life more different
🤣🤣🤣
Every age so well and their person who played Giselle is a great actor. It actually looked like she was really really crying near the last parts of the movie. It’s impressive how she was able to change her actor so well from good to evil. Morgan’s acting wasn’t convincing enough for me, but maybe because she is young.
morgan is actually like 24, i just think she’s mot am actress, like she made a few movies as a kid but not much more idk
@@Lilyberry03 Its actually not the same actress who played Morgan in the original Enchanted, the Morgan in Disenchanted is a totally new one. The OG Morgan plays a small cameo in the movie though.
@@anon7216 OOOH OMG LMAO I looked it up and saw the OG actress and I thought it was her- jesus, i didnt see the next picture 😀😀 how stupid of me, im sorry lol
I think she did a good voice acting job but her on screen presence was pretty blah to me.
I did not like how they overlooked character beats and regressed some of them. The thing that made me tilt my head the most was when Morgan wore that weird outfit to school, knowing full well that Giselle has a knack for fashion design and creating clothes. And you cannot tell me they did not have the right things to make a dress in that big old house. The shoe horning of conflict between Morgan and Gisele was super transparent.
And didn't she open a fashion design company? I guess Disney didn't want to tell the audience that Giselle became a stay-at-home mom.
It takes time to make clothes. She had to go to school at that point.
My point exactly-if they had time to make that outfit, then they had time to make something less tacky with other options around the home.
Making that outfit is shoehorning a conflict, when there was the central conflict that could have been expanded on: Giselle's wishes overshadowing everybody else's
I know they're using stupid-movie logic to make the plot happen. But I would rather go to school smelling like coffee than wear my "mother's" 1950's hand me downs. And seriously when did Giselle's wardrobe go from NYC fashion designer to retro sitcom housewife.
I kinda get why Morgan went into her teen years like that - having a literal fairy tale princess as your stepmom would be fun for all of about a week, then the constant singing and trying to make everything sugary coated positive would get very old, very very fast. After enough years of having her problems, concerns and serious issues turned into a Disney song with an accompanying positivity pun, I can see why Morgan would be somewhat bitter and withdrawn - she probably doesn't think Giselle is taking her seriously or has any sort of deep, wise or helpful advice on dealing with life's challenges.
Morgan deserved to pout in this movie. She got moved into an incomplete house and a new school out of nowhere, got her clothes incinerated, wasn't regarded as a "true daughter", etc. But since she's a teenager, she's made out to be the bad guy
Yes!! I hate how any teenager's problems in movies are overlooked and they are made out to be bad guys for not being compliant to their parent's every wish and expectation.
As an army brat my first inclination is to say *gently* get over it when it comes to moving but as a parent I'm like, dude Giselle you couldn't wait one year for Morgan to graduate?
They uprooted her entire life for basically no reason she has a right to be mad
Especially when everyone else also agreed that this was a bad idea.
Story of my life
All of Robert's story was basically that he didn't want to ride the train
I just watched this show and remembered literally loving the original - I'm 23 now and actually enjoyed this movie a bit. I think the first half was a little boring for me but it picked up and even with all its clichés it was very cute and to me really showed the love and reality of having a true and loving step parent. And even the bustle of adult life and living with a long term partner and how the dynamic changes over time. It was really cute when Robert says he loves and is happiest with Giselle. It was definitely a heart warmer for a hopeless romantic like me and the music was kinda on point ngl.
Same. 25 for me but the first one was huge on my childhood and the first half was promising but after that wish it went down hill and made no sense. That subplot with him becoming a beast slayer was so weird and random
That song with Malvina and Giselle was EVERYTHING! The movie was no where near as iconic as the first but it had it's moments.
And just at that sole moment
“The tyrannically injustice of having loving, affluent parents” I almost spit out my water
I think this would have worked better if the family went to Andalasia in the first act of the movie for a vacation or perhaps some big event Edward and Nancy were planing. That way Morgan could have the same back and forth her parents had in the first movie with someone else.
Fish out of water, cynical real world experiences person and the happy sweet fairy tale person
Of course then there can be some world ending magic occurring and the family has to work together or even bring resources from the real world
5:21 Baby is probably thinking how boring the house is
I find it funny in the first movie Giselle tells Morgan that not all step mothers are evil but in this one immediately recognizes she's turning into that trope😅
Also, wouldn't this imply evil characters in fantasy land don't choose to be evil? Like Queen Narissa, Prince Edward's step mother didn't choose to be evil? Would enough time in the real world allow her to gain free will & become good like her servant, Nathaniel did? Was that really a revelation or did he just gain free will?
I hate when films or real people say stuff like "oh teenagers are just like this" but no they're not. Being depressed isn't normal and I think she's right to feel upset if she liked living in New York.
For me it pisses me off mostly because I'm a very quiet shy person and when I became a teenager people were like oh my goodness you've changed so much and it's like I haven't changed I'm just honest now
great point
Calm down bro...😅
@@ritajingoku50 Telling someone to calm down for stating an opinion. Grow up.
Boo freaking hoo, let's feel bad for the rich attractive girl with loving parents who moved OUT of NYC. Nothing worse possibly exists
@@kevinkenobipius1557 The kid never claimed that 'nothing worse possibly exists.' Having to move when you don't want to isn't the end of the world, but it's understandable that she wasn't happy about it either. There's no need to invalidate that, as if everyone has to plaster on big fake smiles at all the times because nobody's allowed to show any sign of unhappiness unless they're going through a level 10 tragedy.
Morgan used to be confident and sassy in a good way. I understand that adolescence changes people, but it's like she's not even the same person anymore.
I just love how both movies make fun of all of the classic Disney plots and logic like all stepmothers being evil and how there's only ever one villain
I will say that Disenchanted is NOT like the other cliche Disney films, where there's an evil stepmother, who killed her husband, abuses the stepdaughter, who finally goes to the ball... blah blah blah. But Giselle accidently turning into an evil stepmother is VERY different, I will say that!
The whole point of Enchanted was to bring a little fantasy to Roberts life and a little reality to Giselles life. They both had lived the opposite and it wasn't the ideal and they each learned valuable lessons coming together in that middle ground. Giselle already learnt the lesson that sometimes reality is better than Fantasy, she did not need to learn it again!
However Morgan was the little girl who loved the fantasy and the magic of Giselle and she grew up and life got harder. They moved to a different place, where she had no friends and it wasn't all fun and friendship like I imagine her childhood was like with Giselle as a stepmother.
If Morgan had then made the wish and gotten a little more than she asked for then this movie would have been about her learning the lesson that Fantasy isn't all it's cracked up to be and reality is ultimately better. It even seemed to be setting this up with Morgan being miserable and calling Giselle her 'Stepmother' and then enviously looking at the wand that was given to her baby sister... I don't understand at all how they deviated from this plot!
Giselle had very little to be miserable about. Sure her life had changed but her outlook hadn't. She wanted to fix everything for Morgan but Morgan was far more miserable with the decision to move and was suffering more because of this decision.
None of the songs really had meaning, Morgan's character became empty and boring after the wish and Nobody seemed to know what to do with Robert so they literally kept sending him away...
The plot would have made 10 times more sense had Morgan made the wish and it could have been a beautiful story about the mother daughter relationship growing and changing as Morgan grew and changed and realised that she was lucky to have Giselle as a mother and realise that a 'stepmother' type character is a far worse prospect than what she had.
It's not an original story, we've seen it a million times before but these writers nowadays are trying to changed the tried and tested storytales to be new an interesting but they change them so much that they just don't make sense anymore.
Also what happened to Giselle's booming Clothing Company? She was making a killing doing that at the end of the first movie and they seemed to completely forget about it. Could have solved Morgan's first day of school issues if her mother had just made her a new outfit over night. She did it twice in the first movie.
Basically while I was watching I couldn't help but keep imagining a better plot.
Before reading this comment i thought the movie was perfect or because i was blinded by nostalgia. But now after reading your comment i realized the movie would have been soo much better if the writers did what you just said. It would make a lot of sense that morgan would make the wish because she was soo miserable and it could have made the movie special in its own way like the first movie did. Thank u soo much for opening my eyes to a way better plot then expected and made me wish the writers thought of that concept. I still like the movie a lot but i much rather would prefer your vision compare to what we got and it could of been a classic for generations to come.
You're welcome I think but I feel like I should apologise haha 🤣 unfortunately that's just my writers brain thinking too much. I ruin most shows for myself by over analysing but for this one the whole time I was thinking... "Why didn't Morgan make the wish?" from the second Giselle took the wand lol.
I really wish they had gone this way cause I'm honestly a sucker for mother daughter dynamic films. They get killed off so often to make the childs life more difficult and harder (well rounded people with healthy childhoods don't make for good tv unfortunately) but I love movies that do explore these relationships and would have absolutely loved if they did that but.... oh well. Gotta be different and try something 'new' even if it doesn't make sense.
I love Enola Holmes for this reason alone.
Hmmm that would have been interesting but the reason Morgan didn’t take the wand in the first place and make a wish was because she didn’t believe she was the true daughter of andalasia but realized that at the end I guess they could have cut some other stuff out for it to make sense.
Yeah it just seemed like a bit of a cop out that she couldn't use the wand. It's like they just put that in there so Giselle had to use it even though her motive was weaker and they can't have a baby use it.
Yeah, this is it exactly. It's really like the did have the right idea in mind and almost like a new writer came in and changed it but left a few things in the script from the original story and forgot to take them out when the direction changed from Morgan to Giselle. I just really wish now that I could see the movie the way I imagine it haha
the reason she didn’t make Morgan clothes (i think) is because her songs aren’t woking anymore and so the clothes might not come out well - the one of the main reasons why she wants to wish for a fairytale
This movie reminded me so much of WandaVision. A good guy becomes a bad guy and takes over a whole town. Even the colors match.
Lol literally the first thing that came to my mind watching Disenchanted was Alex Meyers is going to hate how much the chipmunk gets to talk.
Enchanted was a love letter to Disney fans. It was a commentary on some of the best and worst Disney fairytale tropes and ~why~ some of those tropes needed to be put to rest. (Re: the whole friggin story of The Little Mermaid. Hans Christian Anderson’s original tale feels so much more contemporary compared to what Disney gave us.) It was also a promise to change how their stories were told in the future.
Those in charge of getting Disenchanted made missed the mark on what made the first movie so fresh. It feels like they shot with the first draft of a script or (gulp) decided to bring in a new script after shooting half of the movie and try to work it in with what they’ve already shot. (Re: Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness).
I was looking forward to revisiting these. The actors were phenomenal and probably elevated the story they had. But, I am completely disenchanted with Disenchanted.
You've nailed it on the head, I couldnt agree more with your comment!!
10:21, no Alex, you are not the only one. They could keep their “true love kiss is the strongest magic” and still make this movie about the mother-daughter relationship. Like “Maleficent”, be a kiss on the cheek or the forehead or something, it’s still love, just a different kind of love ❤
I've definitely been one of the people waiting for a sequel, and this was a cute movie, but it didn't feel like a sequel to Enchanted. It felt like it could have been its own standalone movie unrelated to enchanted. It's like the writers are either completely different than the writers for Enchanted and forgot their own movie, or these are new writes that barely watched the first movie and just used it as a reason to make their own movie.
Atleast i'm happy they didn't make morgan hate her beautiful room bc "ew gross colors are for girly girls and i'm not like other girls i'm special"
Edit: i watched the first one to understand the second movie and the whole time i was watching i was like "i bet alex will make fun of this"
But I'm sad that she doesn't seem as nice to Elle,like she used to be in the first movie
@@mewesquirrel6720 elle? Y'mean giselle? Lol
@@RulerOfArniskad my bad
@@mewesquirrel6720 it's fine :)
Of course this movie isn't as good as the first one, but honestly is just nice to have some nostalgia for my childhood
Agreed, it's obvious nostalgia bait, like Hocus Pocus 2, but I still enjoyed it anyway.
@@trinaq I feel like Disenchanted is slightly better than Hocus Pocus 2 as a sequel because it tries to tell a different story.
I liked HP2, but it was quite similar to the first one in my opinion.
I didn't get this feeling with Disenchanted, so I think it's nice !
That’s how I felt too when watching this movie since I saw it in theaters back when I was 10 . 😊
That’s literally how Disney gets away with making so many mediocre remakes and live actions these days
i guess but the characters changed too much, i didnt even like giselle in this one tbh she was just annoying and the awful story and other stuff doesnt help
I'll be honest, I kinda liked the twist that stopping the hands of the clock stops the effect from being permanent. It makes sense from what it was said about the effect and it ties up with the whole fairy tail logic, so it doesn't seem like a whole lot of asspull.
The one villain with the bob and bangs from the introduction of them is in The Good Place, and she was the judge to determine weather the main characters go to the good place or the bad place. She is extremely sassy and gives off the same vibes as my best friend’s mom I love her (as an actress she’s a really good actress)
I don’t understand why they regressed Giselle’s character and had her still be extremely innocent after all this time. By the end of the first movie you could tell she’d grown a lot and become a more mature person but in this movie she just acts like no time has passed at all. This movie could’ve been about the family losing the magic that originally made them come together and have to rekindle it in some way. But nope, because this has to be an unnecessary rewind of a movie that didn’t really need a sequel
Ever since Idina Menzel got famous for Elsa (Frozen) if you watch the end credits for Disenchanted, it says "With Idina Menzel."
When she was in the first Enchanted movie, no one gave a crap about her... (It was also before she was famous for singing).
It's kind of sad, because she was very famous for her Broadway career before being Elsa and has always been a beast at her craft.
I chuckled when pip started to speak because I had the recent memory of alex saying how terrible it would be if they decided to have a talking pip the whole movie😂
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honestly the one fun part were all the hidden (and some not so) hints of Disney princess movies. my favourite was the Ariel one because me and my sister had just listed what we had and hadn't seen yet😆
Let's all agree that the best part of this video is when Alex called out Morgan for her Jean Shorts at the end 😂👏
Let us not forget how Monroe just randomly get Agatha harkness style powers for no reason.
And also the fact that Morgan is completely okay with living in a town with the woman who tried to kill her. (Even if Monroe didn't remember it)
To be fair my family did move out to our new house before it was finished because something something, schedules collided a bit too close and the changes were a bit more than expected, so I am not surprised their house is on the same state. For a while we all had to sleep on the floor on one room because it was the only place that wasn't covered in dust or fresh paint.
OMG the train line and the "why's this movie gotta be so real?" I legitimately laughed out loud.
Besides Giselle's empire and her magical way of making clothes (+ a kiss being the most powerful magic), I think the movie was fine as it was and enjoyed it quite a lot. I'll try to answer questions from my perspective.
First, Giselle probably became strained, tired and disillusioned with her life in New York City. After ten years, she probably felt homesick and wanted to move somewhere that more closely resembled her realm, where she could have a house in a safer neighborhood (after living in NYC for such a long time she probably encountered some nasty people, which don't exist in Andalasia unless they are villains) and with a garden where her baby could play and have more freedom.
A lot of people move to the suburbs after having babies because they want a higher quality life for their children, where there is less pollution, less danger and kids can play outside. It's not uncommon, I would say in fact, that is is very common.
I myself loved abroad for more than ten years and even though it was new and exciting at first, I'm already tired and want to go back to my country if origin. I own my apartment where I live right now and have a few friends and a good job (though my work can be done from anywhere in the world as long as I have a computer). But I keep missing my childhood friends and family, and my friends of now the bond isn't as deep as it is with my childhood friends.
We can also deduce that she and Robert talked at length about the move and be conceded with it by saying he would just commute to work and she probably sold her fashion line. Again, a lot of people work away from home, some people ride trains for three hours just to get to their work place. Many times it's because where they live housing is more affordable and they do not wish to buy a house near their working place for reasons like money to being too busy and loud, etc.
Again, a lot of parents move away and take their children despite them having to lose their friends and environment. Parents will decide what is best for them as a family, not one individual. Being that for the baby it is better to live in a peaceful, safe, beautiful, clean air, big garden house, I would say it's an important matter. We also do not know how Giselle felt those ten years, she already abandoned her magical world for Robert and New York, maybe their relationship was having issues because Giselle wasn't happy anymore, and again, as a family, the best decision would be to move away. It's already two people in the family that the move is being considered for .... Probably three, counting Robert, if it was placing a strain on their relationship.
I can also imagine that Giselle maybe changed her priorities after having a baby. Many women after having a baby will quit their job (it happens a lot in more conservative countries like China, Japan and Korea and being that Andalasia is still stuck in the mentality of a princess being rescued by a prince I would classify them as conservative too).
We also know that any well in the world can serve as a portal to Andalasia, so there was no specific reason for her to stay stuck in NYC because of that. We also do not know if Giselle stopped herself from visiting Andalasia with fear that it would make her regret her choice even more (it happens).
When it comes to clothes, just because Morgan has a different taste than Giselle doesn't mean Giselle will not stop pushing her to dress just like her. A lot of parents are like that, wanting their children to emulate them and just because Giselle is magical doesn't mean she is perfect. She was probably confused as well, Morgan maybe dressed in princess like dresses, made by Giselle, until she was 12 or 13, and then suddenly changed her taste. Being the fact that supposedly there aren't any "angsty teenagers" in Andalasia and women always dress from childhood to adulthood in gown dresses, Giselle was probably confused. Let's not forget that even people in the "normal world" can be dense when it comes to other people's culture and beliefs, yet we live in a world with internet, with access to everything, we can study and learn about anything we want, and we still try to convince others to change their beliefs or make them "see" our way is better.
Also, let's not forget, Giselle clearly had post partum depression, her magical powers were not working ... Animals didn't care about her or listened to her, so it's normal she couldn't magically make a dress for Morgan. The movie did a great job in "showing", not "telling". We were supposed to understand her and everyone else mental state, they were all exhausted mentally and emotionally. Even though Giselle tried to be positive, the actress did a great job, in a lot of scenes, even though she was smiling, i could see her wanting to snap and cry or scream.
Her singing a lot again is also a side effect of her depression, she was trying to soothe herself and being more magic to her life again, when everything was easy. Let's not forget Giselle was basically raised by animals, her understanding of human norms and interactions when it comes to a human family or having children is non-existent. It's fine when you have to take care of a 7 year old child who you can basically just play with and talk to get your point across, another thing is dealing with a newborn baby.
Even new parents with a lot of support and from big families can find themselves in a difficult position when they have their first baby. And being that Robert is a lawyer, he is probably away most of the time for work, Giselle has no one to teach her or help her take care of a baby (like a grandmother or mother or aunt), which again she doesn't understand how to deal with. Especially when in Andalasia babies are magically happy all the time, so intelligent they barely need any care (because again even animals can raise a baby there) and probably always healthy with no dangers (like the baby rolling while sleeping and start losing oxygen).
I liked the concept of Disenchanted, and I think I really enjoyed James Marsden and Idina Menzel more than the MAIN main characters. But I thought there was less substance to the musical numbers and the character development felt a bit more rushed. Giselle literally changed reality and Robert and Morgan were acting against their will, without their knowledge, in roles that Giselle gave them. It was….a bit strange to see them gain consciousness of the growing conflict without getting upset that it happened at all? Idk. I know it’s a Disney movie, so… 😂 Amy Adams is still a legend. It was fun seeing her have these Golum/Smeagol moments as an evil stepmother.
Also, Giselle’s baby is a reference to Sofia the First maybe? 😂 also ever since Avengers Infinity War, it’s like Disney discovered a way to off characters in a sad and clean way. AKA disappearing into a glowing, sparkly dust.
I saw this movie recently and I like it. It doesn't beat the original, but it's nice to see these characters back and to know that all the leads had fond memories of the original movie that they were open to do a sequel.
If you saw the original in the cinemas, this is a nice little bonus and I feel that this one is just made to sit down and have a good time and not worry about things too much.
Alex basically says what we're all thinking, plus awesome graphics and hilarious faces
Can’t argue with that
Alex's channel is becoming like a new Pitch Meetings for me where I vicariously watch movies I don't really want to see lol
12:07 pip turns into a cat because like all evil stepmothers, they dont have chipmunks as pets, but evil cats.
Fun fact: The guy who directed Enchanted also directed A Goofy Movie, which explains why it's such a masterpiece. (He also directed Tarzan)
How do I know this? Erm, let's just say I've watched these two movies way too many times, and one day I noticed the name on the credits
It's Director Kevin Lima. That's why I felt something missing in this sequel. He didn't directed Disenchanted. Adam Shankman (Hairspray) directed it.
To me it felt like the whole movie undermined the plot of the original. Giselle learns that having singing animals and an overnight romance isn’t all there is to it. She falls in love with Robert and his world and loved this new world more than she ever loved Edward or her fairytale world. Morgan LOVED princesses and was happy to have Giselle as a stepmom because she was a living Disney princess.
Giselle loved Robert for not being a fairytale, and Morgan loved Giselle for being a fairytale, and this movie tries to erase all that. Giselle isn’t happy without her “prince charming” and “fairytale life” and Morgan is just annoyed by Giselle and her whimsy. It was just kinda sad so watch everything that made these characters charming in the first movie get flopped on its head
I disagree that it undermind the original. The first movie had Giselle learn that there was more to love than what happens in fairy tales, but now she's realizing just how tough the real world is, especially in the areas of parenting. Morgan isn't a whimsical child anymore, and while she did show genuine appreciation that Giselle ensured that she had a bedroom ready for her (Giselle even said she could change the decoration!), bad luck just happened. Breakfast was a disaster, showing that Giselle is struggling with being a caretaker. Giselle's "whimsy" is really just her oversimplifying problems, which makes her come across as out of touch with the situation (and why Morgan gets upset with her). In her moment of weakness, it makes her wish, quite literally, for a time when things weren't so complicated. That's very relatable.
Before watching your YT video, I watched this video and I LITERALLY imagined your exact response when the squirrel said, "She became what that world calls a teenager." 😆
12:25 "It's one of them sassy scrolls that talks like the robot from Treasure Planet."
Nah it's just Alan Tudyk doing his usual voice contribution to a Disney film. Only this time he chose to reprise his role of King Candy. Not sure if that's any better...
The magical town was built in Enniskerry in Ireland. I live in Ireland so I went there and the whole town was completely transformed. It was really cool. It felt like I was in a movie.
I really enjoy your reviews, but I was wondering if you would ever do a video on something like, "Ten films I love but everybody hates"? And then you could touch on infamous films from the last ten years?
Also, I thoroughly agree on how you feel about 'Enchanted', that it is surprisingly relevant and stands on its own!
when pip started talking in the live action world I thought “ohhh Alex isn’t gonna like this”
i honestly cant believe you upload THIS FAST because i mean i see other animation youtubers who upload once a month but u upload like once a WEEK
I was so disappointed in this sequel. I wish the plot had gone in the opposite direction. Like I would've loved to see Giselle's experiences with motherhood and Morgan trying to make friends at her new school while her stepmom tries to fit in with the other moms. And then by the end, they both realize they don't necessarily need to fit in, because being unique is much more special, or something like that. An actual continuation of Giselle's story would've been so much more interesting and relevant in my opinion.
Yeah tbh I would have loved it if it just stayed in the real world most of the time and it’s more about them (Giselle/Robert/Morgan) trying to fit in in Monroeville, eventually realising that they don’t need to (although more scenes in Andalaisia too would be nice)
It's not same writer and director. So it explains why the sequel is kinda dissapointing and has a lot of mix reviews.
@@justinmv023 ohhh shoot. Makes sense.
Disenchanted is a movie that exists.
Giselle is the most innocent and kind being in the universe and didn't deserve to go through this emotional mess of a movie.
I actually thought Disenchanted was fun. Although I really do wish they would have mad Sophia older and that whole sibling rivalry could have worked better. But in all, I liked it.
I'd also like to say that even though it didn't seem like Robert had a purpose in this movie, that was his purpose. In the fairy tale world, he becomes a hero and finds his worth. Hence why he goes on to open his own practice.
Let's thanks Alex for falling on the sword so we don't have to
I forgot almost every song from that movie that I watched yesterday, except that Evil Contest between Evil Giselle and Evil Judge From The Good Place, that one lives in my head now. Also another great aspect from the movie that stayed from the original : amazing costumes. That peacock dress is perfection.
Finally watched it from boredom. Gotta say, I'm kinda on Morgan's side here. Having a mom like Giselle would get less fun over time
I was watching the movie and heard the squirrel start narrating and thought "Alex is not going to like this"
2:32 I can’t deal! You are so funny! You help kill my depression. Thank you for always making content!!!!
Even though it's not perfect, I think that it's the best sequel I've seen so far of these nostalgic Disney movies
The best among the worst
that's the perfect way to put it
Agreed. It’s a low bar, but it does accomplish that standard
Yeahh
Yes. I liked it better than Hocus Pocus 2, and I guess that’s the standard now 😐
Honestly the whole memories/true love's kiss being the most powerful magic thing could've been so easily resolved. They lampshade so much tropes in the first movie, so just have Idina say that line, then follow it up with a deadpan, 'Well, that and true love's kiss. And clocks striking midnight. And objects guarded by dragons. And...' It's an easy joke, and problem solved. They could have Amy saying it too, in Giselle's trademark naïve fashion, but I think it'd work better with Idina. Who, by the way, should never be forced to have bangs, damn they did her a disservice here.