I used one of these for the first time a few weeks ago... I usually am good for a ball or two on a 9 ball break, but every time I used the magic rack, I was dropping 3 balls minimum on the break, sometimes 4 and in one notable instance, five. Absolutely fantastic product!
I've only ever played in tournaments which used a magic rack a few times and that was a good few years ago when it was a fairly new product. Outside of the occasional TV tournament, I hadn't seen one being used for a very long time until around 3 months ago when I spotted two guys practicing with one on the table opposite ours. After they had finished their session, we got chatting to them and they kindly gave us their spare one, so i suggested that our group practice with it for the remainder on the evening as some had never used one before and i was curious to see what they thought of it. The verdict was a bit of a mixed bag. Some liked it, some didn't, but most where indifferent. Of those who liked it, they only pointed out one positive (ie it gives a tight rack), whereas those who had reservations pointed to 3 main drawbacks. 1: it being susceptible to getting crumpled during transit, 2: The black template being distracting when it couldn't be removed due to balls remaining on it post break, and 3: it being less user friendly than the conventional triangle. Anyway, it was basically decided after weighing up the pros and cons that we preferred a conventional type of rack as the only positive (ie a tight rack) can equally be achieved with a good quality triangle (such as the Predator Aero). My own personal opinion is that the magic rack is acceptable, and if a tournament I entered was using one I would have no issues. That being said though, it would not be my rack of choice and I view it as a bit of a gimmick a bit like the sardo rack which equally promised to 'revolutionise the way that we rack pool balls forever' 🤣. The sardo is all but a distant memory now, and I believe the magic rack will go the same way. Meanwhile the old 'Tellytubby antenna' is still alive and well and remains the rack of choice for most 🔺️🙂.
They can get bent. I like some of the paper ones from others. They always lay flat. But after a while the holes get bigger. I'd make a paper one with plastic holes
I have seen these do weird things. I have seen someone break, and one ball was left on the strip, and when his opponent tried to slow roll the ball in the cue ball landed in one of the hols in the rack, and settled into the hole. I will never play or use one of these racks. it doesn't matter how thin you make it. It will still be like a small speed bump on the cloth.
I think the key is to remove it right after the break, even if you have to pick up a ball and put it back. I've used my magic rack for only maybe 200 racks so far, and I can only remember one case where I had to move a ball to remove the rack. Did I put the ball in exactly the same spot as where I picked it up down to the millimeter? Nope, but when you rack with a traditional rack often gaps remain between some of the balls, so I guess you have to weigh the affects of sometimes having a worse break because of the occasional loose rack, vs. sometimes having to move a ball after the break. I guess some would argue that a crappy break because of a loose rack affects a match far more that moving one ball after the break. For me, it's been like 199 better racks so far...
Exactly what what Joe said....in the game of pool and billiards a tight rack is a good rack...so I would want to use this every time and have a tight rack!!!
these do actually have some affect on the break. if you watch a lot of comp videos, there are games are a ball would roll over and change direction or come to a stop.. but more often than not it doesn't affect it but just be aware.
phil makegs yeah it will be harder to 9 ball break. a loose rack makes it much easier. with all the balls touching the center ball either 9 or 8 ball will remain center.
@@new2POOL208 have you actually played pool? A loose rack does not cause the balls to break up better. It's the exact opposite. The energy of the cue ball is not transferred as well to the object balls if there is space in between the balls. Physics.
@@new2POOL208 and besides what a talking Subaru car told you, you can gain consistency with your game with a Magic (or Accu) Rack. Every time you play with loose balls it's not the same loose balls (unless your an billiards entertainer/trick shot artist).
@@SubaruWRXspdManual It is a known fact that gaps in between the balls cause more ball rolling action on the break, which is why tight racks are necessary to prevent an easy golden break: to dispute that doesn't make much sense, considering everybody who racks for their opponent racks tightly. If a loose rack made for a worse break, then why wouldn't everybody just rack it loosely?
I have a cue case that has a self-engaging lock (not a zip top) so I just hook my magic rack over the latch and then when I close my case it 'traps' the magic rack between the top part of the cue case and the main body of the case, secured by the latch. The flexibility of the MR means it doesn't get damaged (assuming you're not going to 'throw' the cue case in the car!) and as soon as you undo the cue case, you're ready to go! Easy!
@@BilliardsDirect im sure youve played a bagilluon more games than i and i dont mean to sound rude but, like it is so hard to believe, even seeing the ball jump in one or two video right after the break, they have not a strong momentum and when slowly passing over it totally affects it. id have to see and be apart of many break with this magic rack to have a confident answer myself idk. i looked at a few more videos after this comment and i am not convinced 🤷♂️😅
it surely causes deflection of the ball's trajectory - might be on an atomic level, but hey... that could mean millimeters or more when the ball runs the length of the table... FFS, i dunno. Ask Neil deGrasse Tyson!
+EatShiteAholes Those tiny deflection don't matter on the break; and after breaking, you're supposed to remove it as soon as possible. Besides, if both players use it, it's an equal handicap. I'd give those magic/turtle/chamaeleon racks a try.
If the reason it works is because there are divots that the balls sit in, there is no way it doesn't affect the way the balls move from it. It may be slight but paint on the road affects the way a car drives.
Why use this over a traditional wooden or even plastic rack? I don't get it. Seems like a gimmick to me. I'm thinking you couldn't give me a good reason to use this over a traditional 15 ball rack. You can rack any type of pool game quickly and tightly, and it doesn't look cheesy.
I agree, sort of. The felt under the spot (where you place the 1 ball when racking) is so wore down that the 1 ball cradles into it. Makes it hard to get a tight rack. I'm wondering if one of these magic racks would help.
next time you are playing take your time seeing to it that every ball in the rack is tight and touching then check the spread after breaking. do a regular rack with the traditional wooden or plastic rack break again and then you will know why to use them the difference is really incredible.
He literally explained the exact reason why, it holds the balls as tight together as possible without interfering with the ball movement. The tighter the balls are the more reliable your breaks are and you’re actually able to put all the balls where you want on a break rather then having a few stragglers just going wherever. Hope this helps
Magic rack gets every ball touching for more consistent breaks and superior ball spreads. Traditional rack can leave gaps. Proven and approved for tournament use. Even the purists have come to acknowledge the benefits
The nine ball Magic Rack is too good. A friend at my local pool room bet everyone in the place that he could pocket the wing ball on the break 10 times in a row and he proceeded to do it. So a good player who wins the break starts the game with a strong advantage. I no longer participate in nine ball tournaments where the Magic Rack is used for this reason,
Notice how he didn't roll a ball over one of the corners that you can actually see sticking up from the table. It's funny to me how players will use these things, yet they will pick a tiny speck of lint off the cloth. I think this is more about someone invented and marketed a thing rather than actually advancing the sport.
People have grown accustom to shitty racks and because of that people want to find something wrong with these racks. How about changing you break and breaking better so you can pocket a ball on the break while using one of these....If a ball is still on the rack and you need to shoot it, have the opponent or ref lift the ball move the rack and continue on...pretty simple!
Nobody wants to find something wrong with these racks. The fact is that on the break shot, if a ball slowly rolls up to the rack, it will either stop in the rack or change natural trajectory, affecting the game. A lot of people are not ok with that, especially if money is on the line. No amount of breaking technique will ever guarantee that it doesn't ever happen, and if it happens in a competition with money, you can bet problems will arise off of it.
@@hypercubemaster2729But traditional racks have an even greater effect on ball trajectory than magic rack… because with the old style racks gaps happen. It’s an improvement
Your 8 ball rack is incorrect. It is supposed to be a low ball in the bottom left and a high ball in the bottom right with the 8 ball in the middle. EVERYTHING ELSE IS RANDOM.
how to use the magic rack...... this is the stupidest idea. ever... then when i watch tourney's on you tube and they use it , i fucking hate it. for so many reasons. its stupid. buy a chameleon rack. take this and let your dog play with it.
I used one of these for the first time a few weeks ago... I usually am good for a ball or two on a 9 ball break, but every time I used the magic rack, I was dropping 3 balls minimum on the break, sometimes 4 and in one notable instance, five. Absolutely fantastic product!
My favorite billiard channel, short videos and to the point, great work.
Glad I saw this. Was looking for an explanation as to what the pro tour was now using.
I've only ever played in tournaments which used a magic rack a few times and that was a good few years ago when it was a fairly new product. Outside of the occasional TV tournament, I hadn't seen one being used for a very long time until around 3 months ago when I spotted two guys practicing with one on the table opposite ours. After they had finished their session, we got chatting to them and they kindly gave us their spare one, so i suggested that our group practice with it for the remainder on the evening as some had never used one before and i was curious to see what they thought of it. The verdict was a bit of a mixed bag. Some liked it, some didn't, but most where indifferent. Of those who liked it, they only pointed out one positive (ie it gives a tight rack), whereas those who had reservations pointed to 3 main drawbacks. 1: it being susceptible to getting crumpled during transit, 2: The black template being distracting when it couldn't be removed due to balls remaining on it post break, and 3: it being less user friendly than the conventional triangle.
Anyway, it was basically decided after weighing up the pros and cons that we preferred a conventional type of rack as the only positive (ie a tight rack) can equally be achieved with a good quality triangle (such as the Predator Aero).
My own personal opinion is that the magic rack is acceptable, and if a tournament I entered was using one I would have no issues. That being said though, it would not be my rack of choice and I view it as a bit of a gimmick a bit like the sardo rack which equally promised to 'revolutionise the way that we rack pool balls forever' 🤣. The sardo is all but a distant memory now, and I believe the magic rack will go the same way. Meanwhile the old 'Tellytubby antenna' is still alive and well and remains the rack of choice for most 🔺️🙂.
I love using the magic racks myself. Very easy to use, quick setup. Love it.
this is such a simple design, yet its one of the greatest inventions in pool! thanks for the explanation, now im off to track one down online.
Whoever invented this should win the Nobel Peace Prize 🏆
They can get bent. I like some of the paper ones from others. They always lay flat. But after a while the holes get bigger. I'd make a paper one with plastic holes
I have seen these do weird things. I have seen someone break, and one ball was left on the strip, and when his opponent tried to slow roll the ball in the cue ball landed in one of the hols in the rack, and settled into the hole. I will never play or use one of these racks. it doesn't matter how thin you make it. It will still be like a small speed bump on the cloth.
I think the key is to remove it right after the break, even if you have to pick up a ball and put it back. I've used my magic rack for only maybe 200 racks so far, and I can only remember one case where I had to move a ball to remove the rack.
Did I put the ball in exactly the same spot as where I picked it up down to the millimeter? Nope, but when you rack with a traditional rack often gaps remain between some of the balls, so I guess you have to weigh the affects of sometimes having a worse break because of the occasional loose rack, vs. sometimes having to move a ball after the break.
I guess some would argue that a crappy break because of a loose rack affects a match far more that moving one ball after the break.
For me, it's been like 199 better racks so far...
Exactly what what Joe said....in the game of pool and billiards a tight rack is a good rack...so I would want to use this every time and have a tight rack!!!
these do actually have some affect on the break. if you watch a lot of comp videos, there are games are a ball would roll over and change direction or come to a stop.. but more often than not it doesn't affect it but just be aware.
phil makegs yeah it will be harder to 9 ball break. a loose rack makes it much easier. with all the balls touching the center ball either 9 or 8 ball will remain center.
@@new2POOL208 have you actually played pool? A loose rack does not cause the balls to break up better. It's the exact opposite. The energy of the cue ball is not transferred as well to the object balls if there is space in between the balls. Physics.
@@new2POOL208 and besides what a talking Subaru car told you, you can gain consistency with your game with a Magic (or Accu) Rack. Every time you play with loose balls it's not the same loose balls (unless your an billiards entertainer/trick shot artist).
@@SubaruWRXspdManual It is a known fact that gaps in between the balls cause more ball rolling action on the break, which is why tight racks are necessary to prevent an easy golden break: to dispute that doesn't make much sense, considering everybody who racks for their opponent racks tightly. If a loose rack made for a worse break, then why wouldn't everybody just rack it loosely?
hey Brandon, how do you carry these around? i have a zippered leather case that holds 4 shafts and 4 butts
ive all ready ordered my new set of magic racks
I have a cue case that has a self-engaging lock (not a zip top) so I just hook my magic rack over the latch and then when I close my case it 'traps' the magic rack between the top part of the cue case and the main body of the case, secured by the latch. The flexibility of the MR means it doesn't get damaged (assuming you're not going to 'throw' the cue case in the car!) and as soon as you undo the cue case, you're ready to go! Easy!
I have the magic rack (8-ball and 9/10 ball). How do you suggest I carry them to pool halls without having to bring my folder everytime?
That's in another video
Is this going to become the new real, you want us to replace the wood rack with the new plastic mold?
Thank you, I've been trying to figure that out for awhile, because my 14 ball actually broke in half, weird right?
whiskey tango foxtrot
I know this isn't really on topic considering the video but I have a question, do 7 foot tables use the same size billiards balls as full size tables?
yes.
Where is this pool hall at?
Can you get these for 2" balls?
Yes you can
Go on the internet and search for ' shark pool rack '
You can roll them, but make sure there in a plastic bag
how does this not affect the break if you don't remove it before breaking....
Magic Racks do not affect the break in any measurable way. Once the balls are clear after the break, the Magic Rack is lifted away.
@@BilliardsDirect im sure youve played a bagilluon more games than i and i dont mean to sound rude but, like it is so hard to believe, even seeing the ball jump in one or two video right after the break, they have not a strong momentum and when slowly passing over it totally affects it. id have to see and be apart of many break with this magic rack to have a confident answer myself idk. i looked at a few more videos after this comment and i am not convinced 🤷♂️😅
@@jordanleblanc4699You’ve only seen it used in videos so you have no first hand experience using it. I’ll judge for myself
it surely causes deflection of the ball's trajectory - might be on an atomic level, but hey... that could mean millimeters or more when the ball runs the length of the table... FFS, i dunno. Ask Neil deGrasse Tyson!
+EatShiteAholes Those tiny deflection don't matter on the break; and after breaking, you're supposed to remove it as soon as possible. Besides, if both players use it, it's an equal handicap. I'd give those magic/turtle/chamaeleon racks a try.
@@dipi71 Plus the new ones are even thinner than the original version.
If the reason it works is because there are divots that the balls sit in, there is no way it doesn't affect the way the balls move from it. It may be slight but paint on the road affects the way a car drives.
And yet there’s painted stripes on the road you drove in today. And it didn’t effect your driving
I get a gap between the wing balls every time....
The triangle is still the best way to create the rack...
Also - it's still the best way to call the family to supper.
Also, 20 triangle racks glued together correctly produce a huge icosahedron. (-;
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_icosahedron
@@dipi71 d20 ftw!
Why use this over a traditional wooden or even plastic rack? I don't get it. Seems like a gimmick to me. I'm thinking you couldn't give me a good reason to use this over a traditional 15 ball rack. You can rack any type of pool game quickly and tightly, and it doesn't look cheesy.
I agree, sort of. The felt under the spot (where you place the 1 ball when racking) is so wore down that the 1 ball cradles into it. Makes it hard to get a tight rack. I'm wondering if one of these magic racks would help.
next time you are playing take your time seeing to it that every ball in the rack is tight and touching then check the spread after breaking. do a regular rack with the traditional wooden or plastic rack break again and then you will know why to use them the difference is really incredible.
He literally explained the exact reason why, it holds the balls as tight together as possible without interfering with the ball movement. The tighter the balls are the more reliable your breaks are and you’re actually able to put all the balls where you want on a break rather then having a few stragglers just going wherever. Hope this helps
Magic rack gets every ball touching for more consistent breaks and superior ball spreads. Traditional rack can leave gaps. Proven and approved for tournament use. Even the purists have come to acknowledge the benefits
Stop
Essa valeu
The nine ball Magic Rack is too good. A friend at my local pool room bet everyone in the place that he could pocket the wing ball on the break 10 times in a row and he proceeded to do it. So a good player who wins the break starts the game with a strong advantage. I no longer participate in nine ball tournaments where the Magic Rack is used for this reason,
So this rack is too consistent is what you are saying?
@@EviLNox8 yep and he won't play players better than him who are good enough to be consistent
Notice how he didn't roll a ball over one of the corners that you can actually see sticking up from the table. It's funny to me how players will use these things, yet they will pick a tiny speck of lint off the cloth. I think this is more about someone invented and marketed a thing rather than actually advancing the sport.
Gonna stick with the triangle and only play people that know how to rack if theres something on the game. To each his own though.
People have grown accustom to shitty racks and because of that people want to find something wrong with these racks. How about changing you break and breaking better so you can pocket a ball on the break while using one of these....If a ball is still on the rack and you need to shoot it, have the opponent or ref lift the ball move the rack and continue on...pretty simple!
Nobody wants to find something wrong with these racks. The fact is that on the break shot, if a ball slowly rolls up to the rack, it will either stop in the rack or change natural trajectory, affecting the game. A lot of people are not ok with that, especially if money is on the line. No amount of breaking technique will ever guarantee that it doesn't ever happen, and if it happens in a competition with money, you can bet problems will arise off of it.
@@hypercubemaster2729But traditional racks have an even greater effect on ball trajectory than magic rack… because with the old style racks gaps happen. It’s an improvement
Dumbest thing I have ever seen! They also alter ball paths and slow the game down.
This guy looks like he is going through a midlife crisis.
Your 8 ball rack is incorrect. It is supposed to be a low ball in the bottom left and a high ball in the bottom right with the 8 ball in the middle. EVERYTHING ELSE IS RANDOM.
Thank you. I wish more people understood that. Because it's the correct way AND you don't have anything to think about or fuck up.
It doesn't matter which corner the solid is on and which one the stripe is on, as long as there is one of each.
It is just for demonstrations not actually play
how to use the magic rack...... this is the stupidest idea. ever... then when i watch tourney's on you tube and they use it , i fucking hate it. for so many reasons. its stupid. buy a chameleon rack. take this and let your dog play with it.
i have a chameleon rack... how does that sardo work? i never played with one.