Mastering Youth Intake Day
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มี.ค. 2020
- FM20 added a few things to help, but what exactly helps you bring the next wonderkid in through your academy is still shrouded in mystery. I could not let that stand. So, here is a video.
I set out to debunk the myths around what makes a youth intake good, while setting you up to maximize your chances to land great youngsters. Football Manager won’t change fundamentally even if you do everything right, but knowing you are doing anything possible to land a golden generation is half the battle.
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A *professional* head of youth development wouldn't be out clubbing, they would be watching film of that left back in the Moldovan Under 17 friendly match for the 3rd time.
Man, my girlfriend just left me. She said I"m not normal. I agree. I just won Bundesliga with Dynamo Dresden. I"m not normal... I"m the Special One
Same, won it with only 65 points (levelled with BvB) in my 5th season!
You need helpnand real life dude
I won the UCL with olympiacos back to back to back in the 3rd 4th and 5th season am I not normal as well??
Won it with Ajax in season 1, 2, 3 and 4, while at the same time managing the Dutch national team and guiding them to Euro 2020 and World Cup 2022 victory. I'd say I'm pretty Special too. Although Ajax is not that bad of a team for the CL, it's not that easy winning it in the first and second season. Also my transferbudget ended up somewhere in the range of 600million.
@@davey2487 well my st who led me to glory was bought from brazils second division for 1.2 mil and the next may he was the top goalscorer of the UCL with 15 goals and I had a budget of 30 million
i find that the Determination of the HOYD affects the determination of the youth that come through, so keep that high.
I'm on my 11th season as Coach of Bayern Munich right now, pretty early to the start I got a kid from Munich called Tomislav Madjaric, plays on both wings and had 5 Star Potential. I immediately signed him, he destroyed the entire U19 League. When he turned 18 I loaned him out to SSC Napoli where he made like 15 goals and 7 assists in 37 Games, at that point he had already four full stars. I decided to sell Antonio Marin, who was starting on the left wing so far but started to decline due to numerous injuries, started Tomi there the next season and he just continued to destroy everything. Meanwhile I'm in the Year 2031, played the last three CL Finals, won two of those, and Madjaric made last years CL Winning goal in our own home stadium. He's by far my favourite youth player I've ever got in FM.
Yung Lsg man united r so trash lol
Yung Lsg I know I’m just saying. They are. Aren’t they?
Yung Lsg u can’t rely on one player. They ain’t getting champions league football
Keep hating on Liverpool eggheads x to doubt
@@holdthisoak5767 Hahahah. Obsessed and wrong too. Cock.
Didn't know I needed this video. you're an amazing addition to the yt fm landscape. You made me realise how little I know of this game after 5 years of playing. Well done!
Research a bit u will realise there is more and accurate infos. Roughly he explain everything well and acurate except few
And have fun it only gets better even tho game is static about 10 years. Love of football and sim xD
I've been playing for 8-9 years and I'm still learning stuff.
Love that you mentioned Weston-super-Mare, cheers from WsM
I was going to comment the exact same thing haha
What a coincidence just started doing a youth challenge with them
Please FM improve Indonesia youth rating, so Zealand does not use our country as example again
Those request should be asked towards our stupid football federation instead lmao, tbf we have 275mil population and we can't even compete in continent level, we're the perfect example for this
@@fikriayyasy1991 as an Indian, I feel for you.
@@fikriayyasy1991 mate forget about the continent. You're barely competing in south east asia
@@RexOedipus. agree
@@fikriayyasy1991 wtf indonesia has a bigger population than brazil?!
Love the intro! :-) You're a natural at this.
In my schalke 04 save, i got a promissing youngster in my youth intakes, his name was dominik hrubesch, he was the prodigy of german football, an offensive midfielder, he had everything that an amazing player needed
He managed to give germany a world cup, and he won against my Portugal team that i was coaching as well in the finals
He scored a last minute goal
I've been playing for 5 years and you just debunked half the things I believed about the intake lmaooo. Also shoutout to a fellow American on FM
Hahaha the intros of this videos are glorious!
This video was just the things I wondered, great tips 👍 nice video 🏆
very nice effort bro ...
keep up the good work
cool scarf in the background. Love from Iceland
Another top video Zealand!!!!!!!! Your 0ro aly working through a schedule for your videos so I'm maybe jumping the here but will you be doing a video on Finances managing finances like wage, transfer, scouting budgets and FFP. Income, expenditure projection etc.
As a Sheffield Wednesday fan I am so happy our former manager has found a cushy high profile job
Helpful tips as ever 👍🏾
I love these videos! Your amazing!!!
Love the intros..been playing AoE recently as I kept starting and stopping fm saves lol...I need to beeeeeelieve and feeeeeel the team
@@ZealandonYT yeah I tried now have about 10 different saves lol...playing de and I dont think I will he able to commit until I have completed all campaigns only Americas left so not too much...my heart just wont be in it until then lol
Dude you're actually hilarious, deserved sub
Bryan Klug, best Head of Youth Development xD
He's my HOYD too
Max Eberl is pretty good too
Illusionist
Great video!
Could you make a video about injuries and how to prevent?
I like how you talk so much that I just had to subscribe.... you're kinda funny
Keep it up 😂❤️❤️
Won the prem 2 years in a row, current European champs with Hull City, my youth intake has been awful for the last 4 years, way worse than when I started the save, despite upgrading everything in my control, hope I learn something useful from this vid.
My youth intakes always have been dogshit, FM11 to FM20, beer league to champions league, really one of the few consistent things in this game
Hashtag "hashtag" lol
Keep it up with such an amazing content, cheers from Russia!
Hey there , amazing video, keep it up !
Two things are new to me though which I cant find , so do you have a SI forum post or anything to back it up ?
- Scouting knowledge of the country you are at from HOYD and HOYD / Player reputation being a factor at all.
I got a 5* potential youth intake with 17 flair and my youth coach sold him for 2 million
Look at all your youth players that you think may develop into good players and then put high minimum asking prices on them. For example, with Everton I immediately put an "£80m" price on Jarrod Branthwaite, as I saw Manchester City and a couple of other teams had Major transfer interest in him. There's about 8 other players in the under-23 and under-18 squads that I've popped minimum values of £10-40m on, to dissuade any low bids that my Youth setup decide are acceptable. It's working so far.
Just go through your staff responsibilities and make it so your youth staff can’t sell or buy players without you finalising it
Fire him 🤣
Bass line in the intro song sounds so cool, dude
ikr
Brilliant as usual.
I've heard the opposite when it comes to youth facilities from SI on the forums. I believe they have explicitly said that it does affect youth intake and isn't just the training facilities of your youth team. I could be wrong though, or it's been changed since an earlier FM.
Just checked and confirmed this is still the case in FM20, from Seb Wassell, SI employee:
Youth Facilities
The training facilities available for Juniors (only).
Does NOT apply to visible players already at the club. All visible players currently at the club use Training Facilities regardless of age.
Best intro you've made rofl
xD really good tips and funny videos !
Love the intro
Can you confirm some of the myths of getting a son in FM20? is it now affected by youth intake preview screen?
Great vid!
"I think putting 12 year olds in is illegal"
" have to get parents permission"
This is not the case for "pretend" 12 year olds.... all the new gens are fictional...
They could do like a youth Sunday league scheme in the background... full of new gens.... but the processing would be stupid... like an extra 200,000 potential players....
Fm does what it can without breaking the game.
@@ZealandonYT yea exactly as u said. I meant to put that in the comment coz I strolled into the comments section, and people were melting down over fictional 12 years olds like That was the issue here lol
Ødegaard's dad had to give special permission for the game to add him back when he broke through at 15 years of age.
www.vg.no/sport/fotball/i/Gkjo4/her-faar-football-manager-tillatelse-til-aa-bruke-martin-oedegaard
@@paleikas3180 that's not the point I was making... my point is that if they did have 12 year olds in the game... they would be new gens not actual people... so no need for parents...
Pen Thief's views ok!
this intro
precisely
First year of Manchester United save got 3 high potential players and ever since I’m now I’m 2031 I haven’t had anybody above 3 stars... everything you mentioned in this video has been followed.
Is there a rang of "type of personality" from the best personality to the worse for Head of youth development? example is ambitious better than determined or is determined better that fairly professionel?
on old fm's singing players and having players from other countries effected it, promoting young players to first team and playing them also used to increase it the potial of amazing regens you would get . I tested it for years on fm12 with truro city. In my first 3 intakes I had a player better then ronaldo and messi and with the rest all being premier league potential that was in the lowest tier playable in england.
not sure if it's the same with fm21 but maybe that's something to try out not singing players and promoting players.
Hiii I’m pretty new to football manager on pc not played it since like 2013, when hiring youth staff manly manger/ assistant what do I need to look for in them? Help would be appreciated thank you 🙏
Anybody knows how to get more trainers on -18 and-23 and get higher loans for them, asking for more loan on trainers or askin extra trainees only seem to work for main team, love the video !!
I see that Mr Irvine isnt a "natural" HOYD" rather he is an assistant manager. Does this have any effect?
Good question. That changes over time doesn't it, the longer they're in that role? Could imagine it being a factor though.
Does this apply to the Touch version as well? Actually can al of your videos be applied to the Touch version?
You should do a save in Scotland with rangers man, I've been playing FM since 2009 and even I'm learning a lot from your channel, definitely going to check out the twitch stream, a rangers save would be the cherry on the cake 🤯💯
Duh, I missed the scouting range from my foreign head of youth development too lol, real SMH moment when I saw that bit. I have Bernard Peters (he is AMAZING), but he is German, and I have Atalanta, and his scouting knowledge is only from German, not an aota in Italy yet.
P.S I couldnt find the tool editor thing in my steam, and I bought the game there, bit odd.
@@ZealandonYT Yeah, didnt get me the option for it.
I've just set up my game only just bought it 40 quid ..sweet jesus🙈 🙏🙌👍..Southampton save iam starting..
Bit late but FYI dont buy direct from Steam. Try CD keys, legit company.. and other sites.
hehe these introes! Do you have some advice for wonderkid target men?
i like to focus on mentality first then physical and lastly the skillz needed for the role, when choosing my youthplayers cause if you reverse it thats the hardest to train up (mentality is hardest to do anything about, physical stuff a bit easier and skills are where they change the most over the years)
goddamn that chest hair man lol!
Hi just got fm2020 i was wondering when exactly is youth intake day?
Great video! But if all that's true this means that the future Messi, Ronaldo, Pele, etc. can only appear in the top clubs? Is this realistic? Many of the great players have started from clubs, which are not that successful. How does it work for clubs like Ajax, Stuttgart or Southampton - in real life these are clubs, which produce some of the best players?
Just wanted to let everyone know that your youth players can be poached before you even see them due to things like low reputation or they have extremely high potential but as your club develops you will do the same
Not if you pay attention to your emails, it tells you the day they arrive, i personally go look at the ones i think are viable then and offer them contracts so no poaching can happen at all, its a risk but it tends to work better than just hoping no big team realises i have a youth system
From the developers for those that want a readable overview:
CA and PA of youth intake are both affected by all of the factors equally:
Youth Recruitment
The Club’s recruiting of Juniors, those of home and foreign origin.
Youth Facilities
The training facilities available for Juniors (only).
Does NOT apply to visible players already at the club. All visible players currently at the club use Training Facilities regardless of age.
Junior Coaching
The quality and quantity of Junior Coaches at the Club.
Nation Youth Rating
The potential maximum quality and quantity of Juniors produced in that Nation.
Game Importance
How important football is considered to be in that Nation.
Producing Newgens
The Clubs with the best Youth Recruitment will generally pick up the best Junior talent from that Nation first, the scale of that talent being determined by the Nation Youth Rating and Game Importance. The lower the Youth Recruitment the further down the pecking order a club will find itself. Two clubs with identical Youth Recruitment will be sorted by Club Reputation. Being lower down this pecking order does not mean quality Newgens cannot be produced, it simply lowers the chances.
Youth Facilities and Junior Coaching then simulate and determine how that Junior progresses in the Club’s Junior system until a Newgen is produced and appears in game. It is at this point that the Current Ability (CA) and Potential Ability (PA) of the newgens are decided. The above factors all contribute to both CA and PA equally.
Head of Youth Development (HoYD)
The club’s HoYD is responsible for bringing Newgens into the club. He will influence what “type” of players are selected and can partially or fully pass on his personality to some of these Newgens. The “type” of players selected refers to a player’s position and style, for instance a HoYD with a preferred 4-5-1 formation and a Technical Coaching Style may produce more technically styled midfielders than another HoYD.
The HoYD will also influence the rare “freak” or exceptional Newgens that come through, modifying their ability and style.
This role is filled by the HoYD by default, however if none is employed whichever staff member is set to be responsible for youth development will fill this role.
Source: community.sigames.com/topic/500635-youth-intake-in-fm20/
Small bonus one is affiliates with shared youth training, which increases your recruitment pool.
Also relevant from lower in that thread and answered by SI:
SpS_Zen said:
Interesting. Do the stats of the HOYD have an impact on the quality of newgens? (a better HOYD leading to better newgens)
SI Response:
Not outside of the exceptions. Quality of your youth intake is dictated by the factors listed above.
am i crazy for not having a head of youth development? marc overmars just retired and Im waiting for a club legend or for my assistant coach to take the role eventually
Can't speak for 2020, but in the past there seemed to be an element of randomness where the recruit generator(despite low reputations) can/would produce GOAT's in the strangest places....including Stevenage :)
Grey Mouser even like India can have the next Messi in a save game, however the probability of it is small
At 9:28 you turned into Sylvester Stallone for a moment!
Its 2034 im in charge of Paris FC, won ligue 1 twice and my club reputation is 4.5 stars.
Youth facilities is Great. Junior coaching Adequate. Youth recruitment is Exceptional. HOYD is 2.5 star reputation with France full knowledge.
Why is it I get zero players in my youth intakes?
Do you know if adjustments made in the editor effects already started saves? I mean I have set Norway's youth ranking at 200, junior coaches and facilities already 20, superb head of youth development, I have been save scumming for hours just to see, and I have had maybe 1 out of 100 intakes described as average, the rest simply crap.
Snusmumrikken the pre-game editor no. but there is an in-game editor you can buy and then it should affect your current file
Oh I'll tell you about my youth in take. I've had all of these things in place, and all I ever get brought to me is a series of garbage wasters who have no business sucking down the oxygen at our club. My hopes are cruelly dashed every year
In my first season at Dortmund the preview was raving about a good young goalkeeper from Afghanistan. When the day came he was fucking shite with shite potential and 18 years old... 18! Almost sacked my HoYD on the spot. Also the other German clubs had 14 year olds coming through, but my youngest was 15. Not seen a 14 year old in any other saves.
these intros keep getting better and better
so you can also just go on the editor and change the youth rating if you want to?
Does moving young players to the first team then just making available for the youth teams bypass your youth facilities and coaching??
All players use the 'training' facilities, including youth players. 'Youth facilities' is supposed 'simulate training before intake' which is just a fancy way of saying it makes a 10% CA difference at youth intake time. 'Junior coaching' has 40% effect on PA and 0% on CA, on youth intake, and has nothing to do with player progression either. I wouldn't recommend moving the youth players to first team unless you actually intend on using them for first team though.
1. Are CA/PA judging stable for HoYD?
2. How to increase reputation of your HoYD? Is it linked to club reputation?
I think the reputation rises if your club is winning games. The same happens with your reputation and all of the staff.
@zealand If you edit the Youth Rating of a Nation on Editor2020, does it apply on an already saved game that you want to continue? Or does it take Effect ONLY when you start a new save?
Its would be take effect when you start a new save, 'cause it is 'Pre-Game Editor'. But, if you want to improve it on your current save, just use 'In-Game Editor'.
Is it worth bringing in a Head of Youth Development who is a model citizen, 18 working with youngsters and really good jpa/jpp, also good attributes in determination, motivating and discipline but doesn't have any knowledge of the country the club is based in?
Won’t let me have more that 6 U18 coaches? I ask the board for more, they agree, but they only raise it to 6 coaches. Any ideas ?
Hey, I know this is way late but just thought of something. Does scouting range have any effect on players coming into your youth intake, like, if my scouting range is only local (lets say uk), can I still get players from outside of the uk in my youth intake? Thanks
I think so? Mainly no scouting knowledge doesn't have much to do with it
Your way of speaking remind me so much of that "gradualreport" guy with serbian lessons :D
Is there any evidence showing the reputation of the Head of Youth Dev growing? And does is, again, simply grow from being attached to a winning team or is there any sign that their rep might grow if, for example, they recruit a high potential prospect to the club?
I think reputation is going up with licences (he is treated as a coach) also the reputation is based on his nationality. Do they are more acknowledged with time or club development? Have no idea. Maybe we'll known ex player has a higher rating at the beginning and that's the way to look for ones later after they retire?
Got the best young player of all time last season with my lazio team 2019vz in 2029 Ceylon Wormgoor dutch AM.. he unfortunately done his knee 6 monther.. hes just back dont worry he will still make it ahahaha eventually hopefully..
DUDE... so surprised not to hear a british accent
5:15 sadly weston-super-mare is not in any of these leagues since they got relegated on 2019-2020. I'm actually sad about that, they were my team for FM19
Good to know 👍🏾
hey fellow ck2 player! try the other paradox games they are good
In FM Touch to get a good youth intake you have to pay FM extra monies. In game purchases suck and everyone hates them but FM is using them in Touch. So, just forget about youth intakes in Touch.
Hey I know this is a little late but is a head of youth guy better with 5 star rep and 10 on judging CA/PA or 2 star rep with 20 CA/PA
20 CA/PA
As an Indonesian, i'm surprised when someone mention Indonesia in Football Manager.
FM Base wow you did manage indonesia team? What team?
How is there a way to view a nations game importance? Even with the editor I can't find it
th-cam.com/video/WFiOPPr7vFs/w-d-xo.html
You can see a nations game importance in the list.
why do I never get any 4 star youth prospects, its always a couple of 2.5 stars and 3-4 2 star players every club every season, I am in the year 2045 in my 3rd club and seems the same every time despite managing man u and having a great HOYD
I'm Deportivo la Coruna and find it impossible to get good quality youth coaches/staff with half decent attributes let alone the best staff with good personality traits. Is this a la Liga thing?
I think you have to get more Reputation so the Coaches want to come to you.
i cant request board for junior coaching and youth recruitment
@@ZealandonYTi think the does not allow it thanks mate for your help
thanks mate
I’m currently Basel, into 4th season, Alan Irvine is my HOYD. All youth facilities and training ground are the best. But I still keep getting a rubbish youth intake. Any ideas what I’m doing wrong? Basel are meant to have one of the best youth facilities on the game, and I just can’t produce any decent players !
maybe your youth players aren't actually that bad but your squad is too good in comparison? Maybe your youth recruitment isnt good
Maybe because he's Scottish trying to scout players in Switzerland. I could be wrong though
So how come I didn't get a single youth intake in a whole year? And why did the my analysis stay there for 6 months? And then changed as soon as I got promoted, (got better) but why did I get a summary but it's just been sitting there for almost a season?
@@ZealandonYT okay, just a bit wierd that I got the preview in December and they still haven't arrived by August
That start hahah 🖐️🖐️😂😂
Genius video. 3 watch
Fkn funny vid dude 🤘🏾🤣
2:11- I am also pretty sure that putting 12-year-olds is illegal, I think I read it on an article
I think you need legal permission of the parents, I think that was the case with Odegaard
Eduard Van den Brink each country have their own rules. In Norway you have non-binding youth contracts (for insurance and registration) at age 12 or something. Then at 15/16 clubs in the same country can give professional contracts, not until age 18 can foreign clubs sign players- which is a FIFA regulation.
Chelsea, amongst other clubs, have been caught putting up football schools in Africa and South America where they educate and train kids with potential. They don’t sign contracts but there’s unwritten agreements and pressure to keep to the agreement that players will sign for the club that runs the school, if they don’t then the school will be shut down and many will lose their dreams and jobs.
Fifa manager had all youth teams down to age 12 i think. They just generatet regens
What pc do you use
Can you make a video about mastering training?
Alan F I was writing a long response then figured you could watch this video instead : th-cam.com/video/jpB9oh83fBc/w-d-xo.html
If you have anymore questions after watching that feel free to reply to this message.
TheMrMantequilla thanks
Filippo Galli is must for me with his model citizen personality. Brings in some sexy youngsters
My games never load a youth intake? Just says "every year in march you will get a new youth intake" but I never do on any save so far on fm 20
Thats what happened me, however i realised those guys are all on trial!, you need to go to development centre and then to youth intake and then offer contracts to the ones you want. I cant remember off hand what month, id just keep checkin each week until you see the list of them and then take whatever ones you want.
I'll see how that goes mate cheers 🍻
The reputation of the employees could improve by the time they stay in the club?
So youth rating can change? Literally everyone else says it doesn't
Zealand is the third Green brother
does the HOYD personality affect the youth personality?
Yes