Created a tactic last year with an overload on the left side of playmakers + overlapping full back with the sole intent of dragging the defense over to free up the raumdeuter on the opposite side. It was glorious - changed my view on the role after he lead the league in scoring.
BWM(d) is a crush in counterpressing style of football. The guy who is gonna show up out of nowhere and intercept the ball quickly. Deserves more appreciation
I have a constantly 2,5 star player he is not that good called Cas Dijkstra, but when I remove him I am really weak against counter attacks. So the BWM on defensie allows me to let my regista and Mezzala do the nice things.
I always end up with sweeper keeper defend. Even if I start with my keeper on goalkeeper or sweeper attack I always eventually revert to sweeper defend.
Twice I’ve used wide target man. Once for a regen Brazilian who was a 6’5 LW. That was fun. And for CR7. It just works for him. Ridiculous goal scorers.
Marco Reus was the best Trequartista I ever used. I hopped in a Dortmund save about four years ago to learn how to play the game and he ended leading the league in assists and being fifth in goals with the second highest rating. Ever since I love tactics that utilize it. I think Trequartistas work well in the sense that you need to make sure that you have both enough input going to him and enough places to provide output. They're kind of like a hypermobile enganche. A lot of the attacking play both originates from and is created through a Trequartista so they need to have enough physical ability to move around a lot and enough passing and vision to be a conduit of play AND enough dribbling to run at defenses and draw out defenders /AND/ enough shooting ability to be able to finish /AND/!!! enough mentals to make it all come together properly. Complete forward, but for an attacking midfielder/winger. They truly have to be able to do it all in order to be deadly. The reason most people tend to not do too well with a player on Trequartista is that it's a position that needs not just a specific ability but also a tactic that works with it. If anyone sees this comment, try putting your Trequartista in the middle with creative people to his left and right, defensive solidity behind, and a finishing-composure first striker up top. As your Trequartista ages, they often turn well into first a Raumdeuter and then an Enganche if you can get them to stick around long enough.
This comment didn't get enough attention, thanks a lot for this. I was trying to turn Shola shortire at Manchester united into a trequartista and wondering why he was struggling lmao
This is what I love about FM is that eventhough there are positions that are deemed 'overpowered' every position can be useful. E.g. I love DLF and WP but I hate using BPD because they always end up causing me way too much stress
I really recommend you trying the Wide Playmaker role. It has something unique about it how well it works with an overlapping fullback / wingback. Wide playmaker drifts inside and has an option to play a ball to an overlapping defender, into a channel to striker or stretch play to opposite wing. Despite having 'Shoot less often' hard-baked into its instructions, I still get them to score 10 goals a season with 15 assists to top it off. Very cool role with some unique movement and passing. Works well with a Shadow Striker in the middle, thrives of off players moving into channels and on the wing. It's essentially a playmaking inverted winger, which is awesome. You won't see him blast it into the side netting.
I’ve also found the WP works well with a defend duty midfielder on his side, who will both give the WP space to operate in and cover for the attacking fullback
Regista is the best role in the game. Every time one of my players has done a season at regista they have got the highest average rating in the league.
yeah even if they do not get assists or goals they are just above 7.2-3 rating every match, after 30 minutes they get 7.0 rating out of the blue, fricking love them.
I actually love Poachers, they arent helping in build up but are always there for long balls and crosses, works amazingly with wing backs or even defensive wingers who cross from the deep, very useful. The role makes any striker instantly good if they have good pace, off the ball and finishing
100% agree with the inverted wing backs. They're insane! Unfortunately there aren't many good ones in the game, but I often retrain central midfielders to these roles and it works like a beast! Mattheus Henrique in the perfect fit for this in the left IWB role. And if you can get him, Camavinga in the right IWB position is also amazing!
Yeah this! Although I tend to use very athletic DM players for my IWB instead of classical CM. Allways have western Africa on scout duty, they produce a lot of these kind of players.
Yep. I look out for quality DMs to retrain, or quality wing backs who are at least "reasonable" on their weak foot to retrain as IWBs on the opposite side.
@@TheGroundHopper in an ideal scenario yes, you want players with a strong foot opposite to the side they play on in any inverted role (iwb, if, IW). But this isn't as important as for classic wing roles. A normal rightback or right winger with a left foot won't be able to run to the line and cross it, an inverted player can still be useful when cutting inside on his week foot. So for these roles a player that has the wrong strong foot but is somewhat competent with his week foot might work just fine
When a Regista works, it works perfectly. It's like a DLP but he can actually get closer to the goal, aka higher pass success rate, aka more passes that unlock the defence. Just make sure that every other midfielder can actually tackle (EDIT: You could probably also put "shoot more often" if they have good long shots)
I think it depends what level your playing at. Pressing forwards are key for me in the Conference and a ball winning Mid is needed in every team at that level.
This is a completely legit way to play the game. I pretty much allways go with pure athleticism in lower leagues and use the shit out of BWM and PFs. Everyone is shit a football in those leagues, if you just run at them enough they will make mistakes. And then you have superior speed to counter.
Pressing forwards are the funniest role just for the fact that every now and then they will actually pull off a tackle on the opponents goalkeeper and completely embarass them with the easiest goals you’ve ever seen, idk if this is just applicable to FM19 but i’ve found that inside forwards can be amazing with a strong attacking wingback behind them that likes to get forward(thus the wingback takes on the role of winger) and a single striker system(so the inside forward acts as a second striker when he comes into the center and works alongside the striker)
I used to play my teams like that too, but you really need very good wingers and wingbacks to be successful. If you play average players in those roles the results are mediocre.
In FM21 strikers can actually score 20 goals a season and don't have to be insane to do so. You don't have to use super attacking wings in FM21 to get the forward line to score
I can't disagree with much. Except the roaming playmaker is literally the best performing playmaker role in the game. And wide midfielder is great if you use oi's well to shut down the wing play of your opponent
I switched my underperforming attacking midfielder (who had been playing as AMC or AP on either support or attack) to Trequartista and he's been absolutely destroying teams. He got like 5 goals and 6 assists in his first 5 games as Trequartista. I think it's highly underrated and your review shows this. Maybe give it a try if you have a world class AMC who isn't really suited to Shadow Striker and is underperforming.
The Treq is a playmaker with some scoring talent. The inverse of a Shadow Striker. The only problem with a Treq is you have to have 2 forwards who press. Or a front 3 in a 4231. And even the latter isn't really ideal, because it's 1 center forward pressing 2 DCs. Still, in my 442 Diamond, the Treq is amazing.
Trequtistas are actually amazing as on of the wingers in a front 3 , provided that the other 2 are runners and he has a good balance between play making and winger attributes.
Finally IWB has been recognised. I like using on same side as a mezzala so he fills the space he vacates and you get some nice link up with an IF if you use that as well
I have struggled with getting teams to work unless I use other peoples tactics or least I thought I did. Turns out I wasn't paying enough attention to the roles I gave players. It also turns out re visting the tactics I made they were good! Thanks :)
Regista, for me, is a transcendent role with the right player. I used Brad Walker as one in an Aldershot save all the way up until the Premier League, and he was still getting 7.50+ season ratings despite having maybe two attributes at 15. Modify them to play like a Quarter Back, i.e. longer, riskier passes, and you've got yourself the playmaking, goalscoring, ball-winning defensive midfielder you never knew you needed.
Just used engarche with my creative winger at the end of the game. No subs left. In the red zone. Players ran off him. Really was the hook. Who doesn't love Mezzala?
One thing you forgot is that the Half Backs can be told to Shoot More, which is quite good if you have someone as Ruben Neves, also looks like a good defensive midfield position for those players who have high physical presence
I feel like you were harsh on the "simple" roles like Central Defender, CM, Winger GK. I think they deserve to be higher because they're much much easier to recruit for than the specialised roles like Complete Forward.
Respect Carrilero? It's great to stop the counter if you have very attacking full-backs. In my opinion one of the most specialised/champions league roles out there!
Wasn’t that basically the role Eto’o played when he was playing next to Messi ? Maybe he was more of an AF but definitely had a poacher aspect to his game
I'm that guy here to talk about Wide Playmaker. I had an unbeaten season for the first time with Benfica in FM 19 thanks to Andrija Zivkovic in a wide playmaker role (ML) in a 4-4-2. He played like a hybrid between a left winger and an advanced playmaker. His attributes were perfect for it because he had both the dribbling and crossing of a winger and also the passing and vision of an AMC. Assists, goals, build-up play, he did everything. Sadly Zivkovic flopped at Benfica in real life but he was a god among men in FM.
One of the best formations I've ever put together was a 4-3-3 with a Treq at CF, an RMD at each wing, and 2 Mezzalas on Attack duty in the midfield ahead of a roaming playmaker at CDM. A complete wingback on each side and 2 BPDs on defend at CB. Attacking mentality. Almost all O, very little D. I was okay with the front 3 doing absolutely NOTHING defensively, but man, could they score. I won some games 8-3 or 7-4, but my objective was to just outscore the opposition. The trequartista scored goals, but he also had plenty of assists due to the mezzalas and RMDs around him. I like using the Treq instead of the F9 in that spot because the Treq is more attack minded. I've never used the Treq role on the wing, just at ST and AMC.
I used to see roaming playmaker as u do, but I give it a shot and was better than a deep lying playmaker (try it) Defensive midfielder on support Roaming playmaker Mezzala in attack I kinda think defensive midfielder needs more respect, I mean, they are there to defend, are there to give a long a long pass , helps a little in the build up play and can score a lot from long range
This was in FM14 but Mesut Özil as a Trequartista was absolute madness for me. 101 goals and 117 assists in 204 league apps for me, total average rating of 7,59.
I have an fm 15 save I'm still playing. I'm in 2041 and still love it. Regista is goat for me. It sucks up everything. False 9+ advanced forward or complete forward on support + advanced forward is a cheat code
I have been trying to get the word out on this: if you have a number 8 with the trait "Moves Into Channels," you HAVE TO try him out on Advanced Playmaker on Attack. I've never seen that much production out of the number 8 in my life. For context I play in a 4-3-3 DM AM WIDE or whatever FM calls it.
How would you use F9 and SS in a 4-2-3-1? On a better note, I want to see a tactic that uses Shadow Striker, False Nine, two inverted Wingers/Forwards, Libero, Mezzala, and Regista.
I absolutely adore RMDs, I have them on both flanks and their penalty earning is astounding. I have this one dude, whose stats are nice but not nearly as stellar as mbappe, but MCity gives 300 million dollars for him even though he had 3 goals and 3 assists after a half of a season.
In FM20 I used Trent Alexander-Arnold in a Regista role in my Wolves save and he consistently got an average rating of around 8. It's a role that definitely can work but more players will probably be better suited to a DLP
Im playing a 4-2-2-2 rn (4 defenders, two central midfielder, two wingers and two strikers). I two full backs at support, two CB (despite having fought my way up to the top of the league) on defence A BWM on defence alongside a DLP on support Two Wingers on Attacking An AF alongside a Poacher No matter who plays the poacher, no matter if they are big or small, fast or slow they will score the most goals over a season. And by quite a margin (~7 goals)
I feel like unfortunately you’re right on poachers. I’m not sure why, but pressing forwards on attack do the same thing but better and with more off the ball.
My fave is Advanced Playmaker Support. I have Mikel Oyarzabal in that role for Man Utd on FM 2019 and he is beast. Absolutely love him already, epic player Inverted Winger too. Got Vinicius Junior there, awesome. Mezzalas. Bruno Fernandes there in central midfield, brilliant
Zealand I need to teach you the ways of the Anchor Man and the wide Trequartista. As a Mezzala fan I'm amazed you've not already fallen in love with Anchor Man particularly, it's such a good way to balance your more attacking central players
I strongly consider buying your merch because people won't ask me why I wear a shirt with 'Zealand' on it. That is, I come from the province of Zeeland in The Netherlands, which is the original Zealand. And I like watching your videos, that too! KUTGW
I’m using both regista and RPM on my 4-3-3 tik taka and they r doing rlly well, for 2 seasons in a row my regista is having at least 10 assists the RPM is having 15 goals contributions and my AP on attack is with more then 20 assists for the second season in a row
Agree on Poacher. I remember I had a journeyman career couple FMs ago and I ended at Leicester City. Tried to make a tactic strictly to accommodate Jamie Vardy as a Poacher - didn't turn out well. But I disagree on Inside Forwards. After I read some real-life report, that crossing the ball is one of the worst ways to distribute the ball to the penalty box (only like one in 30 crosses lands where it was aimed at and only about one in 90 ends with goal), I deliberately try to avoid crosses as much as I can opting for low drives into the box.
Wide Playmaker is highly undervalued in FM21. Say I'm using Chelsea and I use Ziyech as my WP, you then make players like Mount your Mezzala and Kante a BBM, change your LW into a W or IF and keep your strikers as a P or AF and YOU WILL RACK UP GOALS. The reason why is fairly simple, the AI on default is not set up to stop a playmaker from out wide. Midfielders are set up to stop most other middies, WB's are set up to stop other WB's. Most of your weaker defenders throughout the game are wingers and a winger tasked to stop another winger who suddenly isnt looking to get inside to score but rather stay wide and spray passes and crosses into and around the box not only spreads the field but its far easier for them to get those passes off when youre not starting in a crowded part of the field like an AP starting in front of the box. Ziyech OWNS this role but you will find a lot of other good wingers who can work in this role in your attack if you know what to surround them with. I've seen Ziyech get close to 40 assists in his first year as a WP on the 20-21 Chelsea team. That's on top of all the assists you'll get from set pieces. Same thing with Saka, Dejan and even Jadon Sancho. Try it out and see for yourself.
Hey mate, very interesting point. I was looking for a reply like this. I was thinking of playing a wide playmaker, but is it combinable with a deep lying playmaker on the same side? Let's say a flat 4-4-2 formation with a midfield of WP - DLP - MEZ - W and 2 AF's. Would a WP get in the way of a MEZ if played on the same side?
33 year old Neymar at Regista was killing it. I feel like in FM you can put any great attacking playmaker at regista and make it work brilliantly, he just needs great passing and flair. My Neymar had 9 assists in 15 games, but he also was shit at defending obviously, which probably also comes down to his 11 pace and acceleration though..
My regista is the central point of my 4-3-3. Landed around 28 assists and a few goals and also won best player in Europe (or Golden Ball, I can't remember). Most MOTM awards, most key passes in the league (around 140). Unbelievable. Just use wing backs in attack and he will start counter-attacks and keep the ball in attack until someone scores a goal. A regista is a better playmaker than any AMC, which is crazy.
I think Trequartista are underrated for Wingers. That's the only role that do what i want when i'm in positional play in attack when I have a right winger, right footed, with a right full back "attacking" (same on the left side). On the other roles, they keep bumping in eatch other. Trequartista role will put your winger closer to your striker, leaving the wide for you full-back. Although most of the wingers are not used to that role, they keep scoring and assisting a lot, especially to each other with wide crosses to the far post.
Disagree about Complete wing back, got a few saves with Complete wing backs averaging 7.7+ over entire seasons. Think the key with attacking wing backs is having the freedom of the entire flank though. I would place Advanced Playmaker lower on the list though as well, because although we all use them, the role is in some ways too vague and always requires further instruction to maintain consistency. Thanks for vid :)
Trequartista actually working out really nicely with me and Ansu Fati. Confused defended and just let’s me get numerically advantages on attack almost always
You’re hating on Roaming Playmaker way too much. I have one and he revolutionizes my team, every time we have him we’re a lot more stronger because of him creating oppurtunities for others.
As dumb as it may sound because people imagine Trequartista as playmakers who need a lot of possession, a TQ as lone striker when you want to counter is actually really good. He does nothing defensively which might seem bad but that's not that big of a deal if you have 10 deeper sitting players but he will roam and look for space constantly even when the opponent has the ball, so whenever you win it, he is in the right space to get it and immediately start the attack, either to score himself or use his creativity to find other runners. If you have a striker who is quick and smart, the TQ-role can be a perfect fit, especially if you're not one of the top-teams in the league and opponents might take more risks against you.
Definitely. The way they pass to the overlapping fullback and themselves drift inside is great. It's basically an inverted winger who doesn't blast it into the side netting and creates chances.
I had an Inverted Wing Back on a career with Admira Wacker and he was a worse player than my left back but he did better things and score goals too. The game doesn't know how to stop that player. Leonardo Lukacevic is his name.
Wide playmakers on a 442 with 2 advance forwards playing on the counter are deadly . You just need great wingbacks and a good midfield runner to maintain the threat when you're on the front foot.
Cengiz Under as a Trequartista is UCL tier for me right now. Currently averaging a 7.56 in Serie A, with 9 goals 12 assists from 24 matches this season.
Wide playmaker works on a 4213. Have the wingback on that side on attack and look for overlaps. If you've got a good technical winger with decent vision but who lacks pace, it's a great way to use him.
Pirlo at Juve: We need Tonali and 2 Carillero's with an Inzaghi Poacher and 2 Pressing Forwards and we can recreate the Grande Milan.. Zeeland: shit role shit role shit role oh and wtf is this Carillero shit role. Regista?? wtff who made this role good?! :)) Ps: love the video man but you just have to mention that a role by itself is useless. everything has a synergy. Btw i used the Regista at Parma with G. Brugman on it (yes who?) and he had the highest average rating in the league winning Seria A Player of the year(first season) in front of Cr7 Zlatan immobile even if we finished 4th.had a blast :)
@@ChidiUma i also considered a mezzala at first, but i believe di Maria role had more defensive responsabilities to compensate Marcelo and modric lack of capability to defend, even xabi Alonso wasnt that good at defending, so he wasnt a full box to box but he wasnt a full mezzala as well he was something in between, probably a roaming playmaker is the closest role in the game at this moment
Casemiro acored 2 straight seasons over 15 goals for me had either over or near 10 assists, an average rating of 7.36 as a centralmid BWM with Kroos behind him as a regista and Modric assymetrically right next to him on the right side. I have him to move forward and he not only wins a crazy amount of interceptions but does most of them being one of the first players to start pressing and thus winning the ball even around the box after a short goal kick. I think the BMW is the prime player in any high pressing team, however, he has to be at least above average and skillfull and calm on the ball.
I remember playing Jorge Valdivia as a Trequartista back in the day and he was basically god on earth. In earlier versions I can't really make that role work for AMC. It's great on the wings however if you have not really fast albeit technical players, and you're playing possession. Or in a game where your wingers are invisible in the pitch because they have no space.
Poacher was my favourite role until I learned to utilise IF. My IFs score from 35-60 goals each season, playing for midtable teams, they turned them into title contenders.
I use Ibra on DLF Attack and Calhanoglu ATM Attack. It really didn't go well. LoL. Because declining Ibra throughout the season. Buying Belotti next season as PF Attack and change Calhanoglu to SS really boost performance. How about you?
@@BobyIrawan91 Hakan doesn't work at AM for you? He's working wonders for me in that role and is a chance dispenser for my Inside Forwards and Advanced Forward and scores quite frequently too
@@khalilnoelgevana3915 Calhanoglu isn't the problem but Ibra, even didn't score in 6 matches. And personally I like AM that can score, just like kaká. So I created a tactic to maximize Calhanoglu potential on next season.
Anchorman, Balk-Winning Midfielder and Fullback are my favorite roles. It’s all about the tackling and marking. I like using a Ball-Winning Midfielder as my number 8 and an Anchorman as my number 6. I also like Carrilero. I value marking and tackling.
i love BWMs but there's so few of them at the top tier football. The best defensive midfielders in the game are usually DLPs (Florentino Luis, Camavinga etc.), there's a surplus of natural DLPs in the game and not enough natural BWMs. Which is a shame because I think BWM is better suited for the gegenpress tactic, gives more intensity and physicality. in my Arsenal campaign i played custom gegenpress and tried to make Camavinga BWM for 3 seasons straight. In the end it didn't work, I ended up using Camavinga as DLP which he is natural at.
Poacher is very useful if you are playing with 2 strikes, in any 4-4-, formation, and you are goal or two behind because he will put the ball in the goal. I am using it a lot when I build a squad that is attacking minded, but you need a player with: finishing, first touch, speed and acceleration.
My favourite roles are the ones that I use because I think I'm good at the game
Hahaha true lol
If I win it's because I'm a genius. If I lose then FUCK THIS RETARDED STUPID RANDOM GAME
@@nvh119 EXACTLY
For real, I can only manage to win when I use control possession tactics
Based
I love RMDs, is like rolling a RPG campaign with a character with 10 intelligence and fuck all in everything else
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Created a tactic last year with an overload on the left side of playmakers + overlapping full back with the sole intent of dragging the defense over to free up the raumdeuter on the opposite side. It was glorious - changed my view on the role after he lead the league in scoring.
BWM(d) is a crush in counterpressing style of football. The guy who is gonna show up out of nowhere and intercept the ball quickly. Deserves more appreciation
indeed.
I have a constantly 2,5 star player he is not that good called Cas Dijkstra, but when I remove him I am really weak against counter attacks. So the BWM on defensie allows me to let my regista and Mezzala do the nice things.
Yes and this paired with a DLP = SUGAR for my Fukushima United
“Everyone wants a sweeper these days” well I feel attacked. I always go with a goalkeeper
Sweepers aren’t keepers
@@johnellisbushbush he means Sweeper Keepers
@@D4rkThuNderplays yes. I know... It was a little joke. Obviously not a very good one
I always end up with sweeper keeper defend. Even if I start with my keeper on goalkeeper or sweeper attack I always eventually revert to sweeper defend.
Same, although I generally play in crappy leagues
Wide target man in Premier League? Has anyone seen Zealand and Steve Bruce in the same room?
Twice I’ve used wide target man. Once for a regen Brazilian who was a 6’5 LW. That was fun. And for CR7. It just works for him. Ridiculous goal scorers.
Catroll could be used as a wide target man whilst he is sat on the bench
Raul Jimenez did that a lot during the 2018 WCQ
Otamendi went from liga nós to the prem and then to liga nós again ....
Big Kyle Lafferty was great in years gone by for it.
As long as I use them then they're good
BIG FAX
Marco Reus was the best Trequartista I ever used. I hopped in a Dortmund save about four years ago to learn how to play the game and he ended leading the league in assists and being fifth in goals with the second highest rating. Ever since I love tactics that utilize it. I think Trequartistas work well in the sense that you need to make sure that you have both enough input going to him and enough places to provide output. They're kind of like a hypermobile enganche. A lot of the attacking play both originates from and is created through a Trequartista so they need to have enough physical ability to move around a lot and enough passing and vision to be a conduit of play AND enough dribbling to run at defenses and draw out defenders /AND/ enough shooting ability to be able to finish /AND/!!! enough mentals to make it all come together properly.
Complete forward, but for an attacking midfielder/winger. They truly have to be able to do it all in order to be deadly. The reason most people tend to not do too well with a player on Trequartista is that it's a position that needs not just a specific ability but also a tactic that works with it.
If anyone sees this comment, try putting your Trequartista in the middle with creative people to his left and right, defensive solidity behind, and a finishing-composure first striker up top.
As your Trequartista ages, they often turn well into first a Raumdeuter and then an Enganche if you can get them to stick around long enough.
This comment didn't get enough attention, thanks a lot for this. I was trying to turn Shola shortire at Manchester united into a trequartista and wondering why he was struggling lmao
federicho chiesa was my best , pedro brazao was amazing too back to back 15+ goal 20+ assist seasons
This is what I love about FM is that eventhough there are positions that are deemed 'overpowered' every position can be useful. E.g. I love DLF and WP but I hate using BPD because they always end up causing me way too much stress
Would be cool if you did a tier list on which regions to scout.
COME TO BRAZIL
I read "region" as "religion" and was like WHAT?
He has one
@@AaronPushesWood Yep, he made it shortly after this comment. I'd like to believe he noticed this :)
I really recommend you trying the Wide Playmaker role. It has something unique about it how well it works with an overlapping fullback / wingback. Wide playmaker drifts inside and has an option to play a ball to an overlapping defender, into a channel to striker or stretch play to opposite wing. Despite having 'Shoot less often' hard-baked into its instructions, I still get them to score 10 goals a season with 15 assists to top it off. Very cool role with some unique movement and passing. Works well with a Shadow Striker in the middle, thrives of off players moving into channels and on the wing.
It's essentially a playmaking inverted winger, which is awesome. You won't see him blast it into the side netting.
I’ve also found the WP works well with a defend duty midfielder on his side, who will both give the WP space to operate in and cover for the attacking fullback
@@kesh_r Yes!
A simple CM(d) does the trick and they really compliment each other well.
Regista is the best role in the game. Every time one of my players has done a season at regista they have got the highest average rating in the league.
Same doglas luiz on regista was unstoppable for me avg rating was 7.6 in the prem
This is true.
Registas are OP.
yeah even if they do not get assists or goals they are just above 7.2-3 rating every match, after 30 minutes they get 7.0 rating out of the blue, fricking love them.
@@shirhanzafran also Ruben Neves, imagine 2 Regista in the same team
Jorginho best Regista in the world IRL
I actually love Poachers, they arent helping in build up but are always there for long balls and crosses, works amazingly with wing backs or even defensive wingers who cross from the deep, very useful. The role makes any striker instantly good if they have good pace, off the ball and finishing
I have found success with poacher too, just score so many goals for me
Yeah not sure about his hatred for both Poachers and Regista's I think it's just a play style kind of thing.
I had altso great succes with Poacher
100% agree with the inverted wing backs. They're insane! Unfortunately there aren't many good ones in the game, but I often retrain central midfielders to these roles and it works like a beast! Mattheus Henrique in the perfect fit for this in the left IWB role. And if you can get him, Camavinga in the right IWB position is also amazing!
Yeah this! Although I tend to use very athletic DM players for my IWB instead of classical CM. Allways have western Africa on scout duty, they produce a lot of these kind of players.
Yep. I look out for quality DMs to retrain, or quality wing backs who are at least "reasonable" on their weak foot to retrain as IWBs on the opposite side.
I’ve not tried it but I feel Gabriel Menino would be a good inverted wing back being a wonderkid full back/midfielder
Do you want right footed players playing at left back and left footed players playing at right back?
@@TheGroundHopper in an ideal scenario yes, you want players with a strong foot opposite to the side they play on in any inverted role (iwb, if, IW).
But this isn't as important as for classic wing roles. A normal rightback or right winger with a left foot won't be able to run to the line and cross it, an inverted player can still be useful when cutting inside on his week foot. So for these roles a player that has the wrong strong foot but is somewhat competent with his week foot might work just fine
When a Regista works, it works perfectly. It's like a DLP but he can actually get closer to the goal, aka higher pass success rate, aka more passes that unlock the defence. Just make sure that every other midfielder can actually tackle
(EDIT: You could probably also put "shoot more often" if they have good long shots)
I really love Regista
BWM is underrated... good cm with high tackling and aggression who are strong but slow and 'plays simple passes' can be the heart of your team.
I think it depends what level your playing at. Pressing forwards are key for me in the Conference and a ball winning Mid is needed in every team at that level.
Yeah, I could never play a sweeper keeper because my goalkeepers are doo doo
Also BWMs can be really effective if applied with a solid base behind, adds an extra man to a press
This is a completely legit way to play the game. I pretty much allways go with pure athleticism in lower leagues and use the shit out of BWM and PFs. Everyone is shit a football in those leagues, if you just run at them enough they will make mistakes. And then you have superior speed to counter.
BWMs are kings, can't play without them.
@@WizoIstGott PF and poacher in non league is unfair against the AI defenders. It's too good
Pressing forwards are the funniest role just for the fact that every now and then they will actually pull off a tackle on the opponents goalkeeper and completely embarass them with the easiest goals you’ve ever seen, idk if this is just applicable to FM19 but i’ve found that inside forwards can be amazing with a strong attacking wingback behind them that likes to get forward(thus the wingback takes on the role of winger) and a single striker system(so the inside forward acts as a second striker when he comes into the center and works alongside the striker)
I used to play my teams like that too, but you really need very good wingers and wingbacks to be successful. If you play average players in those roles the results are mediocre.
In FM21 strikers can actually score 20 goals a season and don't have to be insane to do so. You don't have to use super attacking wings in FM21 to get the forward line to score
I can't disagree with much. Except the roaming playmaker is literally the best performing playmaker role in the game. And wide midfielder is great if you use oi's well to shut down the wing play of your opponent
Maybe should've used the good ones in the showdown, eh?
I switched my underperforming attacking midfielder (who had been playing as AMC or AP on either support or attack) to Trequartista and he's been absolutely destroying teams. He got like 5 goals and 6 assists in his first 5 games as Trequartista. I think it's highly underrated and your review shows this. Maybe give it a try if you have a world class AMC who isn't really suited to Shadow Striker and is underperforming.
The Treq is a playmaker with some scoring talent. The inverse of a Shadow Striker. The only problem with a Treq is you have to have 2 forwards who press. Or a front 3 in a 4231. And even the latter isn't really ideal, because it's 1 center forward pressing 2 DCs.
Still, in my 442 Diamond, the Treq is amazing.
@@shawngillogly6873 Without a suitable F9, Treq is the only way I've been getting a goal output from my AM slot.
Trequtistas are actually amazing as on of the wingers in a front 3 , provided that the other 2 are runners and he has a good balance between play making and winger attributes.
Finally IWB has been recognised. I like using on same side as a mezzala so he fills the space he vacates and you get some nice link up with an IF if you use that as well
I have struggled with getting teams to work unless I use other peoples tactics or least I thought I did. Turns out I wasn't paying enough attention to the roles I gave players. It also turns out re visting the tactics I made they were good! Thanks :)
Regista, for me, is a transcendent role with the right player. I used Brad Walker as one in an Aldershot save all the way up until the Premier League, and he was still getting 7.50+ season ratings despite having maybe two attributes at 15. Modify them to play like a Quarter Back, i.e. longer, riskier passes, and you've got yourself the playmaking, goalscoring, ball-winning defensive midfielder you never knew you needed.
Just used engarche with my creative winger at the end of the game. No subs left. In the red zone. Players ran off him. Really was the hook.
Who doesn't love Mezzala?
One thing you forgot is that the Half Backs can be told to Shoot More, which is quite good if you have someone as Ruben Neves, also looks like a good defensive midfield position for those players who have high physical presence
I feel like you were harsh on the "simple" roles like Central Defender, CM, Winger GK. I think they deserve to be higher because they're much much easier to recruit for than the specialised roles like Complete Forward.
Mario Mandzukić on WTM with an overlap and a winger opposite on cross to back post is just……🥰🥰🥰
I love my carrileros in atack. And enganche is basically a Riquelme, you described the Last 10 to perfection
Except, carrileros are only available with support duty
@@somtooosmond9853 sorry, Wing Back. In Spanish or Argentina at least we call them Carrileros
Two Mezzala's on the midfield with a deep laying playmaker inbetween is alright
Great video Z. I reckon you could actually do a mini-clip series on this explaining how you like to use each role
Respect Carrilero? It's great to stop the counter if you have very attacking full-backs. In my opinion one of the most specialised/champions league roles out there!
Kante's role under Sarri isn't?
@@1hsan369 Or Jordan Henderson and Gini Wjinaldum if you think about it.
Poachers are brilliant if got a false nine alongside them i played a poacher and false nine together they scored like 50- to 60 goals between them
Wasn’t that basically the role Eto’o played when he was playing next to Messi ? Maybe he was more of an AF but definitely had a poacher aspect to his game
@@ozanavar3460 yes but also shadow strikes behind those 2 is good
I'm that guy here to talk about Wide Playmaker. I had an unbeaten season for the first time with Benfica in FM 19 thanks to Andrija Zivkovic in a wide playmaker role (ML) in a 4-4-2. He played like a hybrid between a left winger and an advanced playmaker. His attributes were perfect for it because he had both the dribbling and crossing of a winger and also the passing and vision of an AMC. Assists, goals, build-up play, he did everything.
Sadly Zivkovic flopped at Benfica in real life but he was a god among men in FM.
I've just started on xb1 and ur videos are a massive help, keep it up man
I used Norgaard as a regista in my brentford save and he was voted player of the year in the championsship
Which formation did you use? Player instructions?
Ruben Neves is the best Regista I know , his long shot from outside the box, he is my top 3 goalscorer at Wolves
How do you play?
He likes Mezzalas! He likes Mezzalas! Best day ever!
One of the best formations I've ever put together was a 4-3-3 with a Treq at CF, an RMD at each wing, and 2 Mezzalas on Attack duty in the midfield ahead of a roaming playmaker at CDM. A complete wingback on each side and 2 BPDs on defend at CB. Attacking mentality. Almost all O, very little D. I was okay with the front 3 doing absolutely NOTHING defensively, but man, could they score. I won some games 8-3 or 7-4, but my objective was to just outscore the opposition. The trequartista scored goals, but he also had plenty of assists due to the mezzalas and RMDs around him. I like using the Treq instead of the F9 in that spot because the Treq is more attack minded. I've never used the Treq role on the wing, just at ST and AMC.
I used to see roaming playmaker as u do, but I give it a shot and was better than a deep lying playmaker (try it)
Defensive midfielder on support
Roaming playmaker
Mezzala in attack
I kinda think defensive midfielder needs more respect, I mean, they are there to defend, are there to give a long a long pass , helps a little in the build up play and can score a lot from long range
10:46 as a Groningen fan, this is painfull.
This was in FM14 but Mesut Özil as a Trequartista was absolute madness for me. 101 goals and 117 assists in 204 league apps for me, total average rating of 7,59.
i used it a lot this year aswell. my striker with that role got 31 goals and 17 assists in 32 games. one of my favorite roles this year
I can’t/don’t play FM, but god damn it I’m strapped in for the journey Zealand!👏
I have an fm 15 save I'm still playing. I'm in 2041 and still love it. Regista is goat for me. It sucks up everything. False 9+ advanced forward or complete forward on support + advanced forward is a cheat code
I have been trying to get the word out on this: if you have a number 8 with the trait "Moves Into Channels," you HAVE TO try him out on Advanced Playmaker on Attack. I've never seen that much production out of the number 8 in my life. For context I play in a 4-3-3 DM AM WIDE or whatever FM calls it.
How would you use F9 and SS in a 4-2-3-1? On a better note, I want to see a tactic that uses Shadow Striker, False Nine, two inverted Wingers/Forwards, Libero, Mezzala, and Regista.
*listens to description of enganche*
*jots down "Enganche = George Hagi" in notes*
I absolutely adore RMDs, I have them on both flanks and their penalty earning is astounding. I have this one dude, whose stats are nice but not nearly as stellar as mbappe, but MCity gives 300 million dollars for him even though he had 3 goals and 3 assists after a half of a season.
In FM20 I used Trent Alexander-Arnold in a Regista role in my Wolves save and he consistently got an average rating of around 8. It's a role that definitely can work but more players will probably be better suited to a DLP
I've literally found success in one season with a Regista; BATE in FM20 with some random Serbian i signed on a free lol
Im playing a 4-2-2-2 rn (4 defenders, two central midfielder, two wingers and two strikers).
I two full backs at support, two CB (despite having fought my way up to the top of the league) on defence
A BWM on defence alongside a DLP on support
Two Wingers on Attacking
An AF alongside a Poacher
No matter who plays the poacher, no matter if they are big or small, fast or slow they will score the most goals over a season. And by quite a margin (~7 goals)
the banter between rees and zealand is just gold :D
I have DLP and BWM in midfield one makes the great passes the other stops everyone in their tracks. BWM is super underated
I feel like unfortunately you’re right on poachers. I’m not sure why, but pressing forwards on attack do the same thing but better and with more off the ball.
You really are the cream of the crop when it comes to fm videos
Zealand plugging his merch but what we all really want is the chest hair formula - where can we buy it?
My fave is Advanced Playmaker Support. I have Mikel Oyarzabal in that role for Man Utd on FM 2019 and he is beast. Absolutely love him already, epic player
Inverted Winger too. Got Vinicius Junior there, awesome.
Mezzalas. Bruno Fernandes there in central midfield, brilliant
how big a crowdfund does it take to have zealand get a chesthair waxing on twitch!! :D
Zealand I need to teach you the ways of the Anchor Man and the wide Trequartista. As a Mezzala fan I'm amazed you've not already fallen in love with Anchor Man particularly, it's such a good way to balance your more attacking central players
I strongly consider buying your merch because people won't ask me why I wear a shirt with 'Zealand' on it. That is, I come from the province of Zeeland in The Netherlands, which is the original Zealand. And I like watching your videos, that too! KUTGW
I used a regista in a 4-1-2-1-2 last fm , average rating of 7.5 it was insane
Nice content ! How about a video about best traits for those top roles ?
I’m using both regista and RPM on my 4-3-3 tik taka and they r doing rlly well, for 2 seasons in a row my regista is having at least 10 assists the RPM is having 15 goals contributions and my AP on attack is with more then 20 assists for the second season in a row
Agree on Poacher. I remember I had a journeyman career couple FMs ago and I ended at Leicester City. Tried to make a tactic strictly to accommodate Jamie Vardy as a Poacher - didn't turn out well.
But I disagree on Inside Forwards. After I read some real-life report, that crossing the ball is one of the worst ways to distribute the ball to the penalty box (only like one in 30 crosses lands where it was aimed at and only about one in 90 ends with goal), I deliberately try to avoid crosses as much as I can opting for low drives into the box.
Wide Playmaker is highly undervalued in FM21. Say I'm using Chelsea and I use Ziyech as my WP, you then make players like Mount your Mezzala and Kante a BBM, change your LW into a W or IF and keep your strikers as a P or AF and YOU WILL RACK UP GOALS.
The reason why is fairly simple, the AI on default is not set up to stop a playmaker from out wide. Midfielders are set up to stop most other middies, WB's are set up to stop other WB's. Most of your weaker defenders throughout the game are wingers and a winger tasked to stop another winger who suddenly isnt looking to get inside to score but rather stay wide and spray passes and crosses into and around the box not only spreads the field but its far easier for them to get those passes off when youre not starting in a crowded part of the field like an AP starting in front of the box.
Ziyech OWNS this role but you will find a lot of other good wingers who can work in this role in your attack if you know what to surround them with. I've seen Ziyech get close to 40 assists in his first year as a WP on the 20-21 Chelsea team. That's on top of all the assists you'll get from set pieces.
Same thing with Saka, Dejan and even Jadon Sancho.
Try it out and see for yourself.
Hey mate, very interesting point. I was looking for a reply like this. I was thinking of playing a wide playmaker, but is it combinable with a deep lying playmaker on the same side? Let's say a flat 4-4-2 formation with a midfield of WP - DLP - MEZ - W and 2 AF's. Would a WP get in the way of a MEZ if played on the same side?
Great video! I learned quite a deal. Thanks
Regista is actually insane when surrounded with the right roles and played by the right player. Same with raumdeuter
33 year old Neymar at Regista was killing it. I feel like in FM you can put any great attacking playmaker at regista and make it work brilliantly, he just needs great passing and flair. My Neymar had 9 assists in 15 games, but he also was shit at defending obviously, which probably also comes down to his 11 pace and acceleration though..
אחלה ישראלי לדעתי הרולים הכי טובים זה wp וaf
My regista is the central point of my 4-3-3. Landed around 28 assists and a few goals and also won best player in Europe (or Golden Ball, I can't remember). Most MOTM awards, most key passes in the league (around 140). Unbelievable. Just use wing backs in attack and he will start counter-attacks and keep the ball in attack until someone scores a goal. A regista is a better playmaker than any AMC, which is crazy.
The disrespect on the wide playmaker - it's a crazy good role!
As Chris Vieri and Pipo Inzaghi admirer, im so sad bout the tier list😂
I think Trequartista are underrated for Wingers.
That's the only role that do what i want when i'm in positional play in attack when I have a right winger, right footed, with a right full back "attacking" (same on the left side).
On the other roles, they keep bumping in eatch other. Trequartista role will put your winger closer to your striker, leaving the wide for you full-back.
Although most of the wingers are not used to that role, they keep scoring and assisting a lot, especially to each other with wide crosses to the far post.
Trequartista is THE Messi role as a Striker. My favourite role in the game
I genuinely dislike them, they never do anything for me
@@oweninsertlastname1575 I mean that’s sort of their job half the time to do nothing
Disagree about Complete wing back, got a few saves with Complete wing backs averaging 7.7+ over entire seasons. Think the key with attacking wing backs is having the freedom of the entire flank though. I would place Advanced Playmaker lower on the list though as well, because although we all use them, the role is in some ways too vague and always requires further instruction to maintain consistency. Thanks for vid :)
My top 5 favourite roles:
1. Half back
2. Mezzala
3. Inside Forward
4. Complete Wing Back
5. Roaming playmaker/Box-to-box
I've used both the regista and the wide playmaker roles at the same time in FM 20 in my Benfica save and it worked amazingly well
Trequartista actually working out really nicely with me and Ansu Fati. Confused defended and just let’s me get numerically advantages on attack almost always
You’re hating on Roaming Playmaker way too much. I have one and he revolutionizes my team, every time we have him we’re a lot more stronger because of him creating oppurtunities for others.
As dumb as it may sound because people imagine Trequartista as playmakers who need a lot of possession, a TQ as lone striker when you want to counter is actually really good. He does nothing defensively which might seem bad but that's not that big of a deal if you have 10 deeper sitting players but he will roam and look for space constantly even when the opponent has the ball, so whenever you win it, he is in the right space to get it and immediately start the attack, either to score himself or use his creativity to find other runners.
If you have a striker who is quick and smart, the TQ-role can be a perfect fit, especially if you're not one of the top-teams in the league and opponents might take more risks against you.
Interesting video. Each role works depending your tactics and formation. I use RPM or APM, I also use BWM in the formation I use. And it works for me.
Wide playmaker is CL tier in a 442 paired with an attacking fullback
Definitely. The way they pass to the overlapping fullback and themselves drift inside is great. It's basically an inverted winger who doesn't blast it into the side netting and creates chances.
I had juan mata as wide play maker as a sub in a 4231 in the fa cup final vs city and he got a crazy goal and assist to win me it
Ramdaueter is underrated. Also anchor man
the only good poachers are worldclass attackers who almost are near the end of their career
False. I love a poacher in non league. They only require acceleration and finishing. You can forget about the mentals
I had an Inverted Wing Back on a career with Admira Wacker and he was a worse player than my left back but he did better things and score goals too. The game doesn't know how to stop that player. Leonardo Lukacevic is his name.
Wide playmakers on a 442 with 2 advance forwards playing on the counter are deadly . You just need great wingbacks and a good midfield runner to maintain the threat when you're on the front foot.
Cengiz Under as a Trequartista is UCL tier for me right now. Currently averaging a 7.56 in Serie A, with 9 goals 12 assists from 24 matches this season.
Wide playmaker works on a 4213. Have the wingback on that side on attack and look for overlaps. If you've got a good technical winger with decent vision but who lacks pace, it's a great way to use him.
Pirlo at Juve: We need Tonali and 2 Carillero's with an Inzaghi Poacher and 2 Pressing Forwards and we can recreate the Grande Milan..
Zeeland: shit role shit role shit role oh and wtf is this Carillero shit role. Regista?? wtff who made this role good?! :))
Ps: love the video man but you just have to mention that a role by itself is useless. everything has a synergy. Btw i used the Regista at Parma with G. Brugman on it (yes who?) and he had the highest average rating in the league winning Seria A Player of the year(first season) in front of Cr7 Zlatan immobile even if we finished 4th.had a blast :)
Whats wrong with a Roaming playmaker? If you use a playmaking type that is very athletic, he dominated the pitch in this role
I might be wrong but i believe that was Di Maria role in the first year of Ancelotti at Real Madrid
@@joaotique295 mezzala on attack duty
@@ChidiUma i also considered a mezzala at first, but i believe di Maria role had more defensive responsabilities to compensate Marcelo and modric lack of capability to defend, even xabi Alonso wasnt that good at defending, so he wasnt a full box to box but he wasnt a full mezzala as well he was something in between, probably a roaming playmaker is the closest role in the game at this moment
Casemiro acored 2 straight seasons over 15 goals for me had either over or near 10 assists, an average rating of 7.36 as a centralmid BWM with Kroos behind him as a regista and Modric assymetrically right next to him on the right side.
I have him to move forward and he not only wins a crazy amount of interceptions but does most of them being one of the first players to start pressing and thus winning the ball even around the box after a short goal kick.
I think the BMW is the prime player in any high pressing team, however, he has to be at least above average and skillfull and calm on the ball.
I remember playing Jorge Valdivia as a Trequartista back in the day and he was basically god on earth. In earlier versions I can't really make that role work for AMC. It's great on the wings however if you have not really fast albeit technical players, and you're playing possession. Or in a game where your wingers are invisible in the pitch because they have no space.
Which is most similar to a shadow striker.. but in the striking position?
I exclusively build my teams around a libero/regista/rpm so happy with how they're rated
Carrilero is great in a narrow formation like 442 diamond. Best when paired with Anchor Man and Mezzala
Poacher was my favourite role until I learned to utilise IF. My IFs score from 35-60 goals each season, playing for midtable teams, they turned them into title contenders.
A VOL or BBM with amazing stamina, ok pace and "arrive late in the opponent's penalty area" are perhaps my favourites in the entire game.
Hell yeah. Kucka was voted as the best player in my parma save.
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
You should start an AC Milan save. You'll get to use all the roles you never used because of Ibra and Challa
I use Ibra on DLF Attack and Calhanoglu ATM Attack. It really didn't go well. LoL. Because declining Ibra throughout the season. Buying Belotti next season as PF Attack and change Calhanoglu to SS really boost performance. How about you?
@@BobyIrawan91 Hakan doesn't work at AM for you? He's working wonders for me in that role and is a chance dispenser for my Inside Forwards and Advanced Forward and scores quite frequently too
@@khalilnoelgevana3915 Calhanoglu isn't the problem but Ibra, even didn't score in 6 matches. And personally I like AM that can score, just like kaká. So I created a tactic to maximize Calhanoglu potential on next season.
Anchorman, Balk-Winning Midfielder and Fullback are my favorite roles. It’s all about the tackling and marking. I like using a Ball-Winning Midfielder as my number 8 and an Anchorman as my number 6. I also like Carrilero. I value marking and tackling.
i love BWMs but there's so few of them at the top tier football. The best defensive midfielders in the game are usually DLPs (Florentino Luis, Camavinga etc.), there's a surplus of natural DLPs in the game and not enough natural BWMs. Which is a shame because I think BWM is better suited for the gegenpress tactic, gives more intensity and physicality.
in my Arsenal campaign i played custom gegenpress and tried to make Camavinga BWM for 3 seasons straight. In the end it didn't work, I ended up using Camavinga as DLP which he is natural at.
Challenge for you. Use a team where you only use MLS and Sunday League positions
A B2B mid is a must for all of us.
Poacher is very useful if you are playing with 2 strikes, in any 4-4-, formation, and you are goal or two behind because he will put the ball in the goal.
I am using it a lot when I build a squad that is attacking minded, but you need a player with: finishing, first touch, speed and acceleration.