The Best Role in Football Manager Is...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.พ. 2021
- There are a lot of roles in Football Manager. I have undertaken the herculean task of ranking them all on a table to inform your FM tactic for years to come. This is a purely scientific endeavor that includes no opinion (citation needed). There are, however, so many roles in Football Manager that it can be worth it to go over them all to make sure your tactic does not spontaneously fall apart. This would be something that would ruin your FM save a little more than forgetting to add a match review in training.
Whether a role is good or not is much more in your use in a tactic and the skill of the player than the actual role itself. You can win the champions league playing with every role in FM, except maybe a libero, but that’s another matter. I’m mainly writing this for the people I refer here from the comment section saying their tactic makes use of five Segundo volante’s and they’ve won all six champions leagues in half a season on FM21, thus I am a fool. First off, congratulations, secondly, please give me your tactic for the next Streamer Showdown, FM21 has been problematic for me on that front.
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My favourite roles are the ones that I use because I think I'm good at the game
Hahaha true lol
If I win it's because I'm a genius. If I lose then FUCK THIS RETARDED STUPID RANDOM GAME
@@nvh119 EXACTLY
For real, I can only manage to win when I use control possession tactics
Based
I love RMDs, is like rolling a RPG campaign with a character with 10 intelligence and fuck all in everything else
Muller entered the chat just to like this comment.
Created a tactic last year with an overload on the left side of playmakers + overlapping full back with the sole intent of dragging the defense over to free up the raumdeuter on the opposite side. It was glorious - changed my view on the role after he lead the league in scoring.
BWM(d) is a crush in counterpressing style of football. The guy who is gonna show up out of nowhere and intercept the ball quickly. Deserves more appreciation
indeed.
I have a constantly 2,5 star player he is not that good called Cas Dijkstra, but when I remove him I am really weak against counter attacks. So the BWM on defensie allows me to let my regista and Mezzala do the nice things.
“Everyone wants a sweeper these days” well I feel attacked. I always go with a goalkeeper
Sweepers aren’t keepers
@@johnellisbushbush he means Sweeper Keepers
@@D4rkThuNderplays yes. I know... It was a little joke. Obviously not a very good one
I always end up with sweeper keeper defend. Even if I start with my keeper on goalkeeper or sweeper attack I always eventually revert to sweeper defend.
Same, although I generally play in crappy leagues
Wide target man in Premier League? Has anyone seen Zealand and Steve Bruce in the same room?
Twice I’ve used wide target man. Once for a regen Brazilian who was a 6’5 LW. That was fun. And for CR7. It just works for him. Ridiculous goal scorers.
Catroll could be used as a wide target man whilst he is sat on the bench
Raul Jimenez did that a lot during the 2018 WCQ
Otamendi went from liga nós to the prem and then to liga nós again ....
Big Kyle Lafferty was great in years gone by for it.
Marco Reus was the best Trequartista I ever used. I hopped in a Dortmund save about four years ago to learn how to play the game and he ended leading the league in assists and being fifth in goals with the second highest rating. Ever since I love tactics that utilize it. I think Trequartistas work well in the sense that you need to make sure that you have both enough input going to him and enough places to provide output. They're kind of like a hypermobile enganche. A lot of the attacking play both originates from and is created through a Trequartista so they need to have enough physical ability to move around a lot and enough passing and vision to be a conduit of play AND enough dribbling to run at defenses and draw out defenders /AND/ enough shooting ability to be able to finish /AND/!!! enough mentals to make it all come together properly.
Complete forward, but for an attacking midfielder/winger. They truly have to be able to do it all in order to be deadly. The reason most people tend to not do too well with a player on Trequartista is that it's a position that needs not just a specific ability but also a tactic that works with it.
If anyone sees this comment, try putting your Trequartista in the middle with creative people to his left and right, defensive solidity behind, and a finishing-composure first striker up top.
As your Trequartista ages, they often turn well into first a Raumdeuter and then an Enganche if you can get them to stick around long enough.
This comment didn't get enough attention, thanks a lot for this. I was trying to turn Shola shortire at Manchester united into a trequartista and wondering why he was struggling lmao
federicho chiesa was my best , pedro brazao was amazing too back to back 15+ goal 20+ assist seasons
As long as I use them then they're good
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I've just started on xb1 and ur videos are a massive help, keep it up man
Regista is the best role in the game. Every time one of my players has done a season at regista they have got the highest average rating in the league.
Same doglas luiz on regista was unstoppable for me avg rating was 7.6 in the prem
This is true.
Registas are OP.
yeah even if they do not get assists or goals they are just above 7.2-3 rating every match, after 30 minutes they get 7.0 rating out of the blue, fricking love them.
@@shirhanzafranbinshibly-stu8065 also Ruben Neves, imagine 2 Regista in the same team
Jorginho best Regista in the world IRL
When a Regista works, it works perfectly. It's like a DLP but he can actually get closer to the goal, aka higher pass success rate, aka more passes that unlock the defence. Just make sure that every other midfielder can actually tackle
(EDIT: You could probably also put "shoot more often" if they have good long shots)
I really love Regista
100% agree with the inverted wing backs. They're insane! Unfortunately there aren't many good ones in the game, but I often retrain central midfielders to these roles and it works like a beast! Mattheus Henrique in the perfect fit for this in the left IWB role. And if you can get him, Camavinga in the right IWB position is also amazing!
Yeah this! Although I tend to use very athletic DM players for my IWB instead of classical CM. Allways have western Africa on scout duty, they produce a lot of these kind of players.
Yep. I look out for quality DMs to retrain, or quality wing backs who are at least "reasonable" on their weak foot to retrain as IWBs on the opposite side.
I’ve not tried it but I feel Gabriel Menino would be a good inverted wing back being a wonderkid full back/midfielder
Do you want right footed players playing at left back and left footed players playing at right back?
@@TheGroundHopper in an ideal scenario yes, you want players with a strong foot opposite to the side they play on in any inverted role (iwb, if, IW).
But this isn't as important as for classic wing roles. A normal rightback or right winger with a left foot won't be able to run to the line and cross it, an inverted player can still be useful when cutting inside on his week foot. So for these roles a player that has the wrong strong foot but is somewhat competent with his week foot might work just fine
I have struggled with getting teams to work unless I use other peoples tactics or least I thought I did. Turns out I wasn't paying enough attention to the roles I gave players. It also turns out re visting the tactics I made they were good! Thanks :)
I really recommend you trying the Wide Playmaker role. It has something unique about it how well it works with an overlapping fullback / wingback. Wide playmaker drifts inside and has an option to play a ball to an overlapping defender, into a channel to striker or stretch play to opposite wing. Despite having 'Shoot less often' hard-baked into its instructions, I still get them to score 10 goals a season with 15 assists to top it off. Very cool role with some unique movement and passing. Works well with a Shadow Striker in the middle, thrives of off players moving into channels and on the wing.
It's essentially a playmaking inverted winger, which is awesome. You won't see him blast it into the side netting.
I’ve also found the WP works well with a defend duty midfielder on his side, who will both give the WP space to operate in and cover for the attacking fullback
@@kesh_r Yes!
A simple CM(d) does the trick and they really compliment each other well.
This is what I love about FM is that eventhough there are positions that are deemed 'overpowered' every position can be useful. E.g. I love DLF and WP but I hate using BPD because they always end up causing me way too much stress
Would be cool if you did a tier list on which regions to scout.
COME TO BRAZIL
I read "region" as "religion" and was like WHAT?
He has one
@@AaronPushesWood Yep, he made it shortly after this comment. I'd like to believe he noticed this :)
Great video Z. I reckon you could actually do a mini-clip series on this explaining how you like to use each role
I actually love Poachers, they arent helping in build up but are always there for long balls and crosses, works amazingly with wing backs or even defensive wingers who cross from the deep, very useful. The role makes any striker instantly good if they have good pace, off the ball and finishing
I have found success with poacher too, just score so many goals for me
Yeah not sure about his hatred for both Poachers and Regista's I think it's just a play style kind of thing.
I had altso great succes with Poacher
I can't disagree with much. Except the roaming playmaker is literally the best performing playmaker role in the game. And wide midfielder is great if you use oi's well to shut down the wing play of your opponent
Mannnnn!!! Thank you so much !!!! My tatics with your tips!! just great!!
Interesting video. Each role works depending your tactics and formation. I use RPM or APM, I also use BWM in the formation I use. And it works for me.
Finally IWB has been recognised. I like using on same side as a mezzala so he fills the space he vacates and you get some nice link up with an IF if you use that as well
Great video! I learned quite a deal. Thanks
Trequtistas are actually amazing as on of the wingers in a front 3 , provided that the other 2 are runners and he has a good balance between play making and winger attributes.
I can’t/don’t play FM, but god damn it I’m strapped in for the journey Zealand!👏
One thing you forgot is that the Half Backs can be told to Shoot More, which is quite good if you have someone as Ruben Neves, also looks like a good defensive midfield position for those players who have high physical presence
Maybe should've used the good ones in the showdown, eh?
You really are the cream of the crop when it comes to fm videos
BWM is underrated... good cm with high tackling and aggression who are strong but slow and 'plays simple passes' can be the heart of your team.
Hahahah nice video although I see you in discord to talk about that WP... It's an amazing role if you got the players for it as team to give him space
Pressing forwards are the funniest role just for the fact that every now and then they will actually pull off a tackle on the opponents goalkeeper and completely embarass them with the easiest goals you’ve ever seen, idk if this is just applicable to FM19 but i’ve found that inside forwards can be amazing with a strong attacking wingback behind them that likes to get forward(thus the wingback takes on the role of winger) and a single striker system(so the inside forward acts as a second striker when he comes into the center and works alongside the striker)
I used to play my teams like that too, but you really need very good wingers and wingbacks to be successful. If you play average players in those roles the results are mediocre.
In FM21 strikers can actually score 20 goals a season and don't have to be insane to do so. You don't have to use super attacking wings in FM21 to get the forward line to score
Zealand I need to teach you the ways of the Anchor Man and the wide Trequartista. As a Mezzala fan I'm amazed you've not already fallen in love with Anchor Man particularly, it's such a good way to balance your more attacking central players
I switched my underperforming attacking midfielder (who had been playing as AMC or AP on either support or attack) to Trequartista and he's been absolutely destroying teams. He got like 5 goals and 6 assists in his first 5 games as Trequartista. I think it's highly underrated and your review shows this. Maybe give it a try if you have a world class AMC who isn't really suited to Shadow Striker and is underperforming.
The Treq is a playmaker with some scoring talent. The inverse of a Shadow Striker. The only problem with a Treq is you have to have 2 forwards who press. Or a front 3 in a 4231. And even the latter isn't really ideal, because it's 1 center forward pressing 2 DCs.
Still, in my 442 Diamond, the Treq is amazing.
@@shawngillogly6873 Without a suitable F9, Treq is the only way I've been getting a goal output from my AM slot.
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Mario Mandzukić on WTM with an overlap and a winger opposite on cross to back post is just……🥰🥰🥰
I think it depends what level your playing at. Pressing forwards are key for me in the Conference and a ball winning Mid is needed in every team at that level.
Yeah, I could never play a sweeper keeper because my goalkeepers are doo doo
Also BWMs can be really effective if applied with a solid base behind, adds an extra man to a press
This is a completely legit way to play the game. I pretty much allways go with pure athleticism in lower leagues and use the shit out of BWM and PFs. Everyone is shit a football in those leagues, if you just run at them enough they will make mistakes. And then you have superior speed to counter.
BWMs are kings, can't play without them.
@@WizoIstGott PF and poacher in non league is unfair against the AI defenders. It's too good
Nice content ! How about a video about best traits for those top roles ?
I've used both the regista and the wide playmaker roles at the same time in FM 20 in my Benfica save and it worked amazingly well
I feel like you were harsh on the "simple" roles like Central Defender, CM, Winger GK. I think they deserve to be higher because they're much much easier to recruit for than the specialised roles like Complete Forward.
My fave is Advanced Playmaker Support. I have Mikel Oyarzabal in that role for Man Utd on FM 2019 and he is beast. Absolutely love him already, epic player
Inverted Winger too. Got Vinicius Junior there, awesome.
Mezzalas. Bruno Fernandes there in central midfield, brilliant
Regista, for me, is a transcendent role with the right player. I used Brad Walker as one in an Aldershot save all the way up until the Premier League, and he was still getting 7.50+ season ratings despite having maybe two attributes at 15. Modify them to play like a Quarter Back, i.e. longer, riskier passes, and you've got yourself the playmaking, goalscoring, ball-winning defensive midfielder you never knew you needed.
I use a halfback in my 3-2-1-3-1 formation. Apart from when you play against top teams, its surprisingly good defensively. It gives so many options when you're in the opposition half too.
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I love my carrileros in atack. And enganche is basically a Riquelme, you described the Last 10 to perfection
Except, carrileros are only available with support duty
@@somtooosmond9853 sorry, Wing Back. In Spanish or Argentina at least we call them Carrileros
I’m using both regista and RPM on my 4-3-3 tik taka and they r doing rlly well, for 2 seasons in a row my regista is having at least 10 assists the RPM is having 15 goals contributions and my AP on attack is with more then 20 assists for the second season in a row
Wide playmaker works on a 4213. Have the wingback on that side on attack and look for overlaps. If you've got a good technical winger with decent vision but who lacks pace, it's a great way to use him.
I remember playing Jorge Valdivia as a Trequartista back in the day and he was basically god on earth. In earlier versions I can't really make that role work for AMC. It's great on the wings however if you have not really fast albeit technical players, and you're playing possession. Or in a game where your wingers are invisible in the pitch because they have no space.
I feel like unfortunately you’re right on poachers. I’m not sure why, but pressing forwards on attack do the same thing but better and with more off the ball.
One of the best formations I've ever put together was a 4-3-3 with a Treq at CF, an RMD at each wing, and 2 Mezzalas on Attack duty in the midfield ahead of a roaming playmaker at CDM. A complete wingback on each side and 2 BPDs on defend at CB. Attacking mentality. Almost all O, very little D. I was okay with the front 3 doing absolutely NOTHING defensively, but man, could they score. I won some games 8-3 or 7-4, but my objective was to just outscore the opposition. The trequartista scored goals, but he also had plenty of assists due to the mezzalas and RMDs around him. I like using the Treq instead of the F9 in that spot because the Treq is more attack minded. I've never used the Treq role on the wing, just at ST and AMC.
I absolutely adore RMDs, I have them on both flanks and their penalty earning is astounding. I have this one dude, whose stats are nice but not nearly as stellar as mbappe, but MCity gives 300 million dollars for him even though he had 3 goals and 3 assists after a half of a season.
Poacher is very useful if you are playing with 2 strikes, in any 4-4-, formation, and you are goal or two behind because he will put the ball in the goal.
I am using it a lot when I build a squad that is attacking minded, but you need a player with: finishing, first touch, speed and acceleration.
I have been trying to get the word out on this: if you have a number 8 with the trait "Moves Into Channels," you HAVE TO try him out on Advanced Playmaker on Attack. I've never seen that much production out of the number 8 in my life. For context I play in a 4-3-3 DM AM WIDE or whatever FM calls it.
How would you use F9 and SS in a 4-2-3-1? On a better note, I want to see a tactic that uses Shadow Striker, False Nine, two inverted Wingers/Forwards, Libero, Mezzala, and Regista.
*listens to description of enganche*
*jots down "Enganche = George Hagi" in notes*
Two Mezzala's on the midfield with a deep laying playmaker inbetween is alright
I feel like my favourite roles are very version specific, last FM I got over 30 goals and 20 assists out of a treq striker and a 7.5 average out of a regista but this year I couldn't get either to work
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Trequartista actually working out really nicely with me and Ansu Fati. Confused defended and just let’s me get numerically advantages on attack almost always
the banter between rees and zealand is just gold :D
I have DLP and BWM in midfield one makes the great passes the other stops everyone in their tracks. BWM is super underated
DLP and B2B are always my midfield pair with two BPD behind and a custom AMC behind a CF. Needs great players but it kills through the middle. Wing Backs on support and either inverted wingers or forwards out wide.
Respect Carrilero? It's great to stop the counter if you have very attacking full-backs. In my opinion one of the most specialised/champions league roles out there!
Kante's role under Sarri isn't?
@@1hsan369 Or Jordan Henderson and Gini Wjinaldum if you think about it.
This was in FM14 but Mesut Özil as a Trequartista was absolute madness for me. 101 goals and 117 assists in 204 league apps for me, total average rating of 7,59.
i used it a lot this year aswell. my striker with that role got 31 goals and 17 assists in 32 games. one of my favorite roles this year
Poachers are brilliant if got a false nine alongside them i played a poacher and false nine together they scored like 50- to 60 goals between them
Wasn’t that basically the role Eto’o played when he was playing next to Messi ? Maybe he was more of an AF but definitely had a poacher aspect to his game
@@ozanavar3460 yes but also shadow strikes behind those 2 is good
I exclusively build my teams around a libero/regista/rpm so happy with how they're rated
regista behind a cm on defend and mezealla on attack is godly, had a dutch newgen in my portsmouth save who got 18 assist in the championship
if you use complete full backs on support with wide target men in front of them you will be scoring alot from that. the complete full backs need to be good for this to work btw. Also need pace,stamina, crossing and if you want him to score finishing. I play them like a more pulled back wing thats pressure the line and makes a shit ton of crosses central to the strikers.
I have an fm 15 save I'm still playing. I'm in 2041 and still love it. Regista is goat for me. It sucks up everything. False 9+ advanced forward or complete forward on support + advanced forward is a cheat code
Carrilero is great in a narrow formation like 442 diamond. Best when paired with Anchor Man and Mezzala
I think Trequartista are underrated for Wingers.
That's the only role that do what i want when i'm in positional play in attack when I have a right winger, right footed, with a right full back "attacking" (same on the left side).
On the other roles, they keep bumping in eatch other. Trequartista role will put your winger closer to your striker, leaving the wide for you full-back.
Although most of the wingers are not used to that role, they keep scoring and assisting a lot, especially to each other with wide crosses to the far post.
I used a wide target man in a 4231 with an AF and a winger on the other side just crossed it deep everytime both scored 25+ goals in championship
Im playing a 4-2-2-2 rn (4 defenders, two central midfielder, two wingers and two strikers).
I two full backs at support, two CB (despite having fought my way up to the top of the league) on defence
A BWM on defence alongside a DLP on support
Two Wingers on Attacking
An AF alongside a Poacher
No matter who plays the poacher, no matter if they are big or small, fast or slow they will score the most goals over a season. And by quite a margin (~7 goals)
I used a regista in a 4-1-2-1-2 last fm , average rating of 7.5 it was insane
I found the only way I got regista to work was to retrain AMCs that play Advanced playmaker or Enganche really well. I found a lot of success with Foden and Lo Celso retrained to this role.
Ruben Neves is the best Regista I know , his long shot from outside the box, he is my top 3 goalscorer at Wolves
How do you play?
I love a solo AF but that's partly because the guy I have playing their is an academy player who scored 38 league goals in Serie A last year
I used Norgaard as a regista in my brentford save and he was voted player of the year in the championsship
Which formation did you use? Player instructions?
I love rolling playmaker, and they work great in my fm 2020 tactics. For me it's one of best roles in the gamd
Thanks for doing them finger cracks and remind me to do mine.
Agree on Poacher. I remember I had a journeyman career couple FMs ago and I ended at Leicester City. Tried to make a tactic strictly to accommodate Jamie Vardy as a Poacher - didn't turn out well.
But I disagree on Inside Forwards. After I read some real-life report, that crossing the ball is one of the worst ways to distribute the ball to the penalty box (only like one in 30 crosses lands where it was aimed at and only about one in 90 ends with goal), I deliberately try to avoid crosses as much as I can opting for low drives into the box.
Wide playmakers on a 442 with 2 advance forwards playing on the counter are deadly . You just need great wingbacks and a good midfield runner to maintain the threat when you're on the front foot.
Which is most similar to a shadow striker.. but in the striking position?
As Chris Vieri and Pipo Inzaghi admirer, im so sad bout the tier list😂
Casemiro acored 2 straight seasons over 15 goals for me had either over or near 10 assists, an average rating of 7.36 as a centralmid BWM with Kroos behind him as a regista and Modric assymetrically right next to him on the right side.
I have him to move forward and he not only wins a crazy amount of interceptions but does most of them being one of the first players to start pressing and thus winning the ball even around the box after a short goal kick.
I think the BMW is the prime player in any high pressing team, however, he has to be at least above average and skillfull and calm on the ball.
Currently running a wide playmaker on the left with an under lap and one forward. He’s leading my team in assists 2nd season in a row lol
Give me good old fashioned Advanced Forward any day of the week.
Disagree about Complete wing back, got a few saves with Complete wing backs averaging 7.7+ over entire seasons. Think the key with attacking wing backs is having the freedom of the entire flank though. I would place Advanced Playmaker lower on the list though as well, because although we all use them, the role is in some ways too vague and always requires further instruction to maintain consistency. Thanks for vid :)
Will there be a new wonderkid vid, with the new update?:)
Cengiz Under as a Trequartista is UCL tier for me right now. Currently averaging a 7.56 in Serie A, with 9 goals 12 assists from 24 matches this season.
I pretty much exclusively use Wide Playmakers lmfao, have a Livorno save 5 years in (old update) and Thiago Almada tears it up there, the biggest issue with the role is that it only works in certain setups and those setups have some pretty lopsided matchups
Great vid
I am that one player that, WP is working with just one my save but it need to be specific formation and tactics to work and of course great player 😊
i play with Mehdi Taremi in FC Porto as a CF and he scored like 36 goals and like 10 assists in 32 +/- games in Liga Nos, probably is a good signing.
Mezzella is my best but the Trequista is quiet good if set up the individual instructions well, very good at pulling out to find good runs into channels
I can really find myself in the ranking, but I do think that most roles do have their use, some on lower level, some on high level. And after all it depends on what player you have. Zealand says it himself, he once had a guy on Wide Target Man that worked, eventhough most midfielders/wingers/... ingame will never be able to perform in it. I've had saves with 2 carrillero's that absolutely killed it, playing Lukaku as a targetman on high level is insane, ... I never use standard tactics, I try to create tactics using the player material there is, and use all different roles, but trequartista, enganche or wide playmaker won't be happening soon.
In FM17 or 18 I had Giovinco absolutely go sicko mode as a Trequartista. Signed Miroslav Klose as a free agent and paired him as a target man. Gio had like 45 G+A
I actually have my most successful save (2 consecutive quadruple with Lazio) using Libero on Attack and 2 Carrilero in the left/right sided centre midfield. De Jong has to be the best Libero in the game with those key attributes and traits.
Regista are underated .. when use correctly with other midfield roles. It is really good
I'm that guy here to talk about Wide Playmaker. I had an unbeaten season for the first time with Benfica in FM 19 thanks to Andrija Zivkovic in a wide playmaker role (ML) in a 4-4-2. He played like a hybrid between a left winger and an advanced playmaker. His attributes were perfect for it because he had both the dribbling and crossing of a winger and also the passing and vision of an AMC. Assists, goals, build-up play, he did everything.
Sadly Zivkovic flopped at Benfica in real life but he was a god among men in FM.
The disrespect on the wide playmaker - it's a crazy good role!
Zealand: I have a question about the tactics I use in FM20. My teams commit a lot of fouls and get many cards, and I want to correct that. How do I fix that? I play a save with Norway, Arsenal, Real Sociedad, and Notts County.