When You Need Cheaper Wonderkids
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Football Manager 2020 is dominated by the pursuit of the world’s best young talent. But, what if you’re not one of the world’s best teams? Where can you go to get talented young FM players for cheaper?
While they may not be guaranteed wonderkids, they can help most clubs in the world get to the next level at bargain price tags. All you have to do is set your scouting to find them. Break out your compass, follow the tutorial, travel the world, build your team. Or something.
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Also asking players for advice ain't a bad idea. I asked a Nigerian 22 year old (who himself was very good) if he knew any good winger and he told me about his friend who I got for a few hundred K, 3 years later I sold him for 100 Mil
How do you do this? Is this in the player's bio somewhere?
@@bunchifybunch You go to interaction the advice then recommend player the you can choose position and squad status
@@jackoberto01 Also great for increasing their morale.
Last FM I bought a croatian lb for 67.5k. 2/3 years later, after just one season playing in my first squad I sold him to PSG for 60M€. I was at FC Porto, but still... It's incredible what you can find in these situations.
The big teams in Portugal are talent factories, even when controlled by the AI they tend to get 50 million pounds from transfers every season while their squads don’t lose any strength
@@deeznoots6241 for sure! This FM I'm not seeing that so frequently, but I still managed to produce (and see my rivals do the same) a couple of top talents.
Europeans exploiting Africa?!?!? I would never have predicted this in my wildest dreams
@Myneme Jeff this dude is American, but I get the point...
@@diogocosta1305 Still true as well with their history of slavery
@@reintaler6355 yeah true but I was just pointing out that Zealand is american
@@reintaler6355 You mean the slaves that were sold by other Africans around the world and where slavery is still legal today, that Africa?
@@osu5inarow fuck off
Fm Base : scout west Africa!!!
Me, a west African: *surprised pikachu face*
Dayo Ade being from Ghana this resonates with me on a spiritual level lol
senegal, ghana, Ivory Coast, nigeria....The level of talent in west Africa is incredible ! The cost of life and abysmal level of wealth of local competitions makes it easy and cheap to poach talent from there!
And I’m one of them 😉
A player called Adjassa will dominate
actually poland is great and still cheap
Signed a regen from Crusaders in Northern Ireland for £12k. After winning the Champions League with Hearts, he's now a 5* world-class midfielder and valued at £40m :-)
Just noticed Club Brugge written on the whiteboard. Make it a TH-cam series and I'll love you forever
I second this
Club Brugge 🇧🇪
I mean, I'm a Galatasaray fan but Brugge is helluva club... Love them!
Also, 'Hes's been pillaging around in West Africa for years' isn't the best choice of words😆
Heitor, Khellven, Lincoln, Almendra, Palacios, Matias Arezo, Machuca - All future top players who you can get for pretty low money
Great tips! So glad to see Eastern Europa on top, and especially to hear that your favorite player ever came from Dinamo Zagreb on FM14. Btw, I'm from Serbia :) Every FM rookie should watch your videos, plenty of useful tips. I'm a veteran, but it's still interesting to watch.
video idea: "Help! I just got promoted and now my team sucks!"
When I did a Brazil save in FM 2019 I would search a max domestic release clause of 250k. This brought forward a load of 15 and 16 year olds who had not yet signed professional deals. By the time I left my team 3 years later I went from a relegation battle to the best youth teams in the country and a side with the oldest player being 24 winning copa L and the league. I spent a total of £25mil over the 3 years. Since I started my save (i have played 5 years since) they have sold 27 players for £10m+ each. It may have been removed in 2020 but deffo worth a look.
Signed a wonderkid right-winger from Glenavon for 74K. Sold him 4 years later for 75M.
This is my favorite FM video in a long time.
I've rarely seen these regions brought up and I'd love to have some of these lesser celebrated nations wonderkids star for any team I'm playing with.
Great job on the content and I love your presentation!!!
Can you make a video on making your own tactic from scratch? I really enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the good work!
Adding onto that. It’s similar and probs will be covered but how to tweak your tactics. What I mean by this is identifying problems in the tactic and changing it to improve it as the save progresses
FM Base what tactics works together? e.g Target man and direct passing and what don’t e.g slow. Center back in a high defensive line.
@@oisinquinn9469 im sure im very ignorant on this and I'd like to know his input, but I always thought that just depended on the strengths of your players but certainly a slow centerback on a high line might be bad if his tackling is bad and/or aerials are bad
I´m still wondering why you have only 6,8k Subscribers. You deserve at least 100K, such a special and very good FM TH-camr :D
well guess who has 100k now
You used a Jamaican accent to say "go Trinidad". That's a mortal sin where I'm from.
Lol, not sure which Jamaicans you have been listening to. Cool Runnings Jamaicans perhaps?
@@shanebaker5588 I didn't say he did a "good" Jamaican accent. For the record born and raise in Kingston, East Rural St. Andrew.
“Its a fucking disgrace”-Didier Drogba(big up yuh self big man)
It's the same bro
another great video bro keep up the good work. these are so good as a new player
i'd love a video with a few examples of some roles that "clash" and are counterintuitive
on fm19 signed a nobody called ziyad chibout (not a regen) for derby county for £200k. went on to become my captain and once got 3rd in africa’s best midfielder award. will always be a cult player for me since he came from nowhere and, although he was never my best played, was consistent and even once had one stellar season where he scored 20 goals from cm in the prem. fm hero
dude, your intros alone are worth it following your channel. it seperates you from all the other info vid´s About fm. great work, keep it up
@@ZealandonYT 🤣more the veggytype of Breakfast huh?🤣
A good video would be one of the most common frustrations, 'What to do when your team is dominating games but not scoring/winning'. Tutorial on how to diagnose what's going wrong with your finishing.
4:20 the background song makes it much more enjoyable to watch and learn from Mr.Zealand
Video idea: reasons why you go on a 10 game winning streak, then 20 game losing streak in the lower leagues.
happened to me yesterday. Started a season with 15 games without a loss then after the first loss went 15 games without a win.
Subtitle: “Why the morale system is broken in FM20.”
Heres what I do when that happens. Change your tactic for 2-3games. Something really simple 4-4-2 , use cautious or defensive. Then go back to your original tactic that your players are familiar with.
Dagogo Dagogo Hart
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Not for me. I was expected to finish mid table with dorking and ended up winning nearly every game
I was rinsing European superclubs in my Gremio save long before it was cool. LOL
I'm glad we've seen this correction though, given some of the fees paid in real life for the best teenage Brazilian players.
Southern Africa, South Africa have produce me some good gems signed for banana boxes. FFA School of excellence in Australia used to be gold mine, they have rebranded and is now called something else. I reckon I’ve picked up 3-4 players that managed to win the golden boy award in their rookie season with me.
I still remember back in FM11 I bought a regen called Shinji Yamada for £10k from Japan, ended up selling him for more than £10m to Man United a few years later. He was a striker and had pace, acceleration, agility and finishing all at 19 or 20.
It'd be very helpful if you could make a video on match preparation. Like, how you use the reports on the opposition, how you tweak your strategy to deal with different opponents, etc.
Thanks in advance and keep up the great content!
@@ZealandonYT I'll hold you to it!!
also, great job on the FM Academy. Genius, really
I haven't got the scouting range to scout these countries but went to them and took a few punts on a couple. N so far they came good. Thanks. Hopefully though as I rise through the leagues I can send a proper scout out n not just go at it blind lol
There is nothing better than getting a cheap Brazilian star player though, managed to net a first team player for my Portuguese premier league team for just a million quid, foreign release clause was 16 million(aka half a years income for my team at the time) but his domestic release clause was just 500k so when a Brazilian team triggered that release clause i jumped right in with the offer of 1 million which they accepted(presumably with extreme frustration at that other Brazilian club)
Hi there FM BASE,
Im a former FM player, I do game since 97 edition (old championship manager days)
I'd like to say that Uruguayan and Colombian Leagues are probably good for this purposes (cheap wonderkids), these countrys have a lower economy budget than region and that helps buying players with a lot lower ammount of money.
Watching Zealand videos about wonderkids it's like having a scout with 20 youngsters knowledge
1. Worth 14k ... Don´t want to sell
2. ---------------------//---------------------------
16. Worth 56k ... Offer 15 million .... They want 50 million.
17. Worth 156k.. Enquiry ..........They want 80 million
It´s actually easier to sign talents in real life.
Why the hell are the videos so good and so necessary.
Josh Zirkzee is 100% a top wonderkid. Signed him for £10m and he scored 4 in a 7-1 win over Spurs as Southampton. 😬
I love this guy he's absolutely jokes
You've missed the best spot for cheap youngsters in Europe, Portugal. Every year there will be at least 5 or 6 wonderkids you can pick up for dirt cheap there.
Niall P especially if the club is benfica
@@michaelugwa5225 Yeah but the prices are crazy high...
LEVITATE aka Joao Felix
LEVITATE yeah, you need to get in before Benfica, Porto and SCP snag them. Lots of good players at the smaller Portuguese clubs available for cheap
For the Compensation vs proper transfer part, another important part is that the Compensation comes with a "15% from profit of next sale" clause, so if you're running a team of buying youngsters for nothing to develop and sell them for a lot of money, you can avoid losing that 15% for a little higher fee.
Should try scouting the Japan and Korea region as they pop out some decent regens from time to time.
Best Player so far was a Striker from Ecuador I got for cheap that just left on his $8 Million release clause to PSG. I'm Austin FC in MLS too, so you know we ain't got cash to splash!
I've found a few decent players from Wales, literally just by mass-scouting players between 15 and 17 around youth intake day.
As a secondary goal in my Swansea save I've been trying to cultivate welsh youth, and even the second tier of Welsh football can produce some gems, for absolute peanuts.
There's an absolute tonne of dross though.
Scandinavia also worth a mention imho. Pretty much all EU for registration purposes, easily covered by 1 scout and plenty of good talents.
Hey, also wai for intake in brazil, so wonderkids can show up in smaller teams so they are easier to catch.
The US can be a good spot too. If you get them young enough, you can spend literally $0 on a player. MLS doesn't follow compensation rules for youth.
0:38 best Vader impression ever
WHAT AN INTRO!!!!!!
YOU ARE THE BEST :D :D :D :D
ASEC Mimosas from Ivory Coast always provides me with great wonderkids
For Eastern Europe because of the amount of countries AND help with registration/ work permits. I tend to have multiple scouts on them with about 5 countries per scout.
There are a lot of different levels of wonderkids. Everyone in a while one comes and long and is better than every player on your team
this whole video is just a huge flex
Can you do a series on the Scottish league? As a Scottish football fan who does not support rangers or Celtic, I'd love it if you could take a look at the teams, see if you could take a club (ideally Dundee United as they're my team 🧡🖤) and stop rangers or Celtic dominating the league and cups. Keep up the good work, I'm loving your videos
Last FM (which I am still playing, I haven't bought the 20 yet) I signed 3 Dutch players (one CD, one LW and one ST) for 2M in total, ended up selling them for a combined 100M (to PSG and Barcelona).
I was at Benfica and it was my best season on FM ever, I won the champions league!
For me personally Eastern Europe is a go to place for quality players. Fairly cheap to buy, and easier to sell because some leagues have cap for players outside of EU, and most of Eastern Europe countries are in EU so many more clubs can approach to sign them and be within the foreign player cap per club.
I had a 19-year-old regen called Tom Obed from.. Micronesia. It's not even a FIFA nation, but they are in the game. He went on to become a Man Utd legend worth 100 million euros.
Portugal is always a great place for regen wonderkids on the cheap
I find most of them to be too expensive same as Brazil, Argentina etc
I can't believe i never noticed the 'on going' option when creating a scouting assignment! That's going to save a lot of clicking
Socceroos scarf in the background? I approve!
Sort by base salary in Brazil because that’s is what the release clause is based/limited by. Lower salary, lower release
Most underrated TH-camr ever
Hi, just found your videos recently and I'm liking what I see so far, keep up the good work! The only problem I have is that the overall sound level is quite low, so it's hard to hear even at full volume. Here's the other piece of bread, I like the lighting!
@@ZealandonYT Your new vids are sounding much better and the levels are better too, nice one!
I always forget which scouts are where so give them a nickname such as ‘Mr West Africa’ (can’t just call them West Africa or Scandinavia because they’re humans!). Really helps with organising them.
Your videos are amazing. You should have a lot more subs than you do. Keep it up!
I always buy from Colombia, Peru and Uruguay because u can get the "west africa" cheap and they all turn into world class players .
What really shocks me from this video is watching an american guy having some knowledge about geography
Colombia; Chile; Peru; Venezuela; Uruguay,,,, check the u21 teams and scout all the regen players!!! Colombia has so many cheap high potential players!!
Great video. You've made this game so accessible. At the start I was so overwhelmed by the games depth but slowly getting the hang of it after 200 hours of tearing my hair out and mistaningly buying bad players for 20 million. However, did you just say "Czechia, the former Czech republic"? Cant say I know that one 🇨🇿😂
If you could do tutorials on using the pre game editor that would be amazing! There's so many experiments I want to try but I'm not very good with the whole editor thing. Also maybe it's more for your twitch, but I'd love to see you do some FM experiments. If you're interested I've got a million ideas for them! :D Keep it up!
A mate and I have a running joke that we call finding young players for cheap is "time for random Scandinavians". Goes back to champ manager.
Now this is nice after last nights stream question regarding this topic
12:20 Pretty sure that picture of Behrouz Aghazadeh is Jack Roslivic of the Winnipeg Jets
I wouldn’t even bother wearing a tshirt if I were you. Kudos to you!
Well, I'm pillaging Mali for years in FM 🤣
From FM 15 to 19 I had my favourite player there, Abdulaye Sissoko and he was a cheap signing for most of my lower league team and eventually becomes a player on championship lvl which can be sold for approx. 5 mil pounds.
Nowadays, for my International Madrid save I use mezzalas from Peru and Mali (Peru is a great country to scout for cheap mf), my dcs are from Portugal (bought them as a young talents from second division which I always look up) and I take my pride in my st called Robert Pandza (Swiss international) which I bought for 350k and who is 35 mil worth complete forward and won 2 golden boots 😜
So my recommendations: SA - Peru, Eastern Europe, Western Africa and a lower league Portugal (and always spice it up with Swiss and Austria, they tend to have a great and cheap talent).
Anyone else thought there phone was ringing when the music started lol.
Signed a Dutch Striker for under a mil sold him 5 years later 120m good old FM18
aah....Western Africa..I've done it with my Feyenoord save at FM12. pretty damn good talents down there
Awesome video! I have a question though, do you have every single league ticked before starting the save? Does this impact scouting/finding players in this region if you don’t have Croatian/Slovakian leagues enabled for example?
If i play in the lower leagues of England, I always look to N. Ireland for regens. They tend to show up with a fair few decent talents and are always dirt cheap
I’d like to see an experiment assessing the importance of training schedules. How much (if any) benefit is there in a non-basic training schedule?
FM Base Yeah there are a lot of variables to consider when I think about it haha!
I guess the style of play in your team would also have an impact on the success of various training regimes also..
I’m loving the work you’re doing to answer these fm ‘philosophy’ Questions!
@@ZealandonYT Could use the exact same month with the same team, same staff and players but different training
When scouting these regions, do you have to have any of their leagues loaded? or does this not effect anything?
asking myself the same question
if you dont have the leagues loaded you will only get like the 20-50 best players from a region
@@gameplaytv1374 Cool, thanks for replying. Does loading more leagues significantly hinder the game speed? I presume it depends a lot on the computer.
@@lFIFA12HDl i normally have about 20 countries, some with 3 leagues and playable, some less important nations only watchable (translated)
@@gameplaytv1374 maybe I'll add some more leagues into my save. I have one more question, what difference does it make if a league is playable compared to watchable?
I've watched a lot of your videos recently, and you've actually inspired me to go out of my comfort zone... maybe even BATE? :p
As someone from the Middle East (Palestine) and someone that has watched every single one of your videos, I assure you, you would be safer in most parts of the Middle East than I would.
I don’t doubt it
@@ZealandonYT You said it would be dangerous. I just didn't want you to be misinformed haha
On Fm19 I had a Czech regen in my Birmingham City save (Petr Hrabina, God bless his name), I signed him in the second season for 9mil, won me the FA Cup the first year, next year won me the Prem and then I sold him for 80mil. Only afterwards I realised it was the biggest mistake I could ever make
Important detail: right after I signed him I took a screenshot and posted it on am Fm facebook group and see what people think of him. The majority said he wasn’t good enough for the Prem. They were proved wrong
I won the champions league first season 2019/2020 with Celtic... Leo Sane 2.6 million release clause goes up to 20 million in value after one season. I didn't spend outrageously I've just created the best tactic 👌
Serbia and Croatia are great places to get young players.
Club Brugge Is a very fun save! I had an a great time managing them back in FM16
Lost the Europa League final 3 years in a row though.
Scouted this Hungarian kid as Chelsea at the start of a new save now I’m begging he doesn’t go up in value before the embargo is lifted (he’s got at least 4* potential)
You never mentioned Bosnia in the Eastern European section and I thought I should let the comments know that it's probably one of the best nations in that region for finding great young players
@@ZealandonYT it could just be my own selection bias because I search for them more, but Bosnia produces a lot talent in my saves. I'd compare it to somewhere like Serbia which I also scout heavily in terms of producing top talent
@@ZealandonYT nothing particular, it's just a standard medium with big European leagues (and Scotland just to see if Rangers win the league) a few South American leagues (Argentina, Brazil Colombia) and then sometimes I'll put in some of the far eastern leagues and the MLS. I think what's worked so well for me is that at the start of every season I'll do a search for 15-16 years olds from particular nations, since I know someone somewhere will want to know eventually I'll put them below and give them a rating on my experience with them from 1 to 10, keep in mind they're mostly going to be 6+ because I've dropped nations I don't find good players from, I might also give explanations on some as to why I look there and what kinds of players tend to pop up most frequently (apologies for how long this is already but it's all for the good of the community)
First nation: always the nation of my club (varies but will always slightly improve on its normal rating)
Next: Argentina and Brazil (usually your best bets for wonderkids) I find as a rule Argentina produces more quality central players and Brazil produces better wingers and wing backs but it's not hard set. I notice they don't produce top level defenders at the same rate as midfielders and attackers though.
Rating: 10/10
Then: Portugal, Spain, Italy and The Netherlands (Holland)
(next best options for wonderkids)
I find most of my midfield and a lot of my centre backs here
Portugal produces good players all round mostly, but never good CBs for as long as I've tried and I don't know why
Spain tends to throw out very technically adept players, lots of great deeper midfield players (CMs and DMs primarily).
Italy is centre back heaven, most saves I have at least 2 in the squad from Italy, the types tend to change around but often they're very strong and usually have exceptional mentals, Italy also produces a lot of my FBs and WBs and some really good AMs and DMs occasionally
The Netherlands is a strange one, they produce really good attacking players, Strikers, AMs (wide and central) and CMs who play higher (Advanced Playmakers, Mezzalas and the like) as well as good centre backs, but rarely do I find good FBs, WBs and DMs there. Often the Dutch players are very well rounded without being stand out anywhere particularly, though they're usually a bit better physically than the other 2 nations.
Rating: 10/10
Continuing: Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovnia
(FM Geek territory here)
These nations tend to be some of the best outside of Italy for centre backs. Serbia particularly is great for big physical defenders and DMs, and often very quick Wingers. Bosnia is similar with big strong players, but these are usually CBs and Strikers instead, Croatia is the same with CBs but they're not always as physical, they tend to have better technicals, and also Croatia will produce good DMs, CMs and AMs frequently.
Rating: 9/10
I'll be more concise now onward
Other European Nations: Northern Ireland (Family ties but honestly solid) France, Germany, England, Scotland, Switzerland and Austria
No particular positions here mostly but France produces very physical players I've noticed
Rating: 7.5/10
Other South American Nations: Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Peru.
Venezuela honestly surprises me because it's probably the best of this bunch which is odd because IRL they're likely the worst of the group (which is not really a bad thing, they're good teams) I note these players will always tend to have great balance, agility and stamina
Rating:7/10
African Nations:
South Africa, Cameroon, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia Nigeria, Ghana, Cote D'ivoire and Burkina Faso.
Stamina through the roof here usually, South Africa is my favourite of these, but all of them will throw out great players, Strikers are in good supply here, my current Striker is Cameroonian actually
Rating:7/10
Asian Nations: Japan, China, both Koreas, Saudi Arabia
Players in these regions do tend to have good control and balance and agility. China seems the best by far for CBs out of these, as the others rarely produce any of top quality, but seem better in the attacking positions
Rating: 6.5/10
AND FINALLY
North American nations: USA, Canada and Mexico
Mexico is the stand out here most positions are covered normally but CBs are hard come by
Mexico Rating:7
The US and Canada don't tend to produce as much top quality talent but it's still there if you want to find it, Canada only really produces Strikers and Wingers of class, while the US seems more broad, but never really brings through good FBs WBs and forward thinking CMs and AMs
US and Canada Rating:6
If you've gotten this far I applaud you because I've not even been able to write this all in one go, I know it's wordy and probably over done but I feel like I've imparted all of my scouting tips here, feel free to use them at your leisure, all I ask is a small mention if you do find it useful and turn it into a video at any point
Also keep in mind that this is all speculative. I don't have the FM code or anything, but I do find this generally holds true throughout my saves, and has done since FM19, which is when I started doing this regularly
I'd like to see a vid on how to maintain morale, this seems to inexplicably drop over time despite initially doing well. So when to use team talks and which options to use, and are there any hints on what personality types to use in personal chats, e.g. some players seem to dislike being congratulated on making their international debut.
What I did on fm19 is look at national teams. I managed to get a 16 year old free agent playing in the czech u19 team and also got an attached armenian who was 17 or 18 in the national team for a grand price of £0 as hus value was next 2 nothing
Make a video about best players for serie C or similar level of leagues
Uruguay is crazy too
I’ll love anyone who writes the whole list of all these players
Excelente contenido , saludos desde Uruguay!
the button is just not there, is it because of the scout radius or whatever?
Nice "No." in the intro. Well done!
South Africa got a bunch of gems, I swear
Just stumbled on your channel good stuff
Video Idea: How to get maximum transfer budget for the next season
I was confused for the entire video. Are theese players all regens or are they real players. Cause i cant seem to find them in the datase myself
O comentário BR que você estava procurando
Achei!
Just bought a 17 year old Guy from Nigeria about 3,000.
Actual market value 6 years later: 1.5 Million
IT really works!!
I'm confused as to how you're getting these west african players.
Do you load these countries into the database or how do you do it?
@@ZealandonYT Ah nvm I found it and got it to work. what I meant was : are you individually loading these regions (non playable) and at least that's what I did now to get it to work.
@@ZealandonYT Hm interesting. well my tank can run it so it's all good either way ;)