Kia Niro EV 1000 km challenge in Norway
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I have driven multiple days this year with 700+ kilometer with the Hyundai Kona. I love the charging stops, and I actually prefer the Kona over the Tesla Model Y. I can choose both - yes, the road noise is a bit annoying - also in the Kona. But on German Autobahn setting the speedo to 125 ish, it is very smooths sailing. And I need to make a break after 250-300 kilometer anyway with my dog. However, the charging increase here is nice with the Niro. I like the car
I bought a used 2020 kona, the efficiency is stunning
Amazing that the Niro EV is within 10 minutes of some really nice cars like Mercedes EQB and EQC.
Good video thank you, I just upgraded from Ioniq 28 kWh to the Niro EV and I'm so happy with it, it really feels like a quality car and it is quiet and everything just works. I love the cabin design with nice integrated screens, physical buttons and a very well designed user interface.
It's a bit funny that in the Ioniq I charges to 100% and drove about 200-220 km on a charge and now I have a much larger batteri but I only run it between 40% and 80% which is wuite similar to the range I had in the Ioniq 😀
I am looking forward to see what efficiency I will get in the summer, right now it is far from my old Ioniq! When I sold the Ioniq in march I was just getting above 7 km/kWh and the Niro EV does 5.5-6 km/kWh.
I think I'm getting ready to buy an Aptera if it ever gets to Europe, it does 16 km/kWh....
Feeling toasty and raining cats and dogs, that’s what I love about Bjorn 😉
I would prefer an Ariya too but they are EV6 money in the UK.
When you’re on the energy information screen, instead of getting rid of the split screen to select the consumption information, you can push the button with the 3 horizontal lines and select it from there. It’s buried way too deep in menus than it should be, but that’s a little easier.
Tack än
Thank you for documenting everything
Impressive indeed considering the charging speed. Love the zero-mile cliffhanger at the end! :)
In Canada, ARIYA starts at $55000. IONIQ 5, EV6 and Niro EV all start at $45000-$48000 and their most equipped versions are $53000 - $58000. Nissan dropped the ball on pricing out here.
Starting price on Ariya includes lots of equipment whereas starting price on the other cars are barebone. Spec up the other cars with HUD, electric seats, etc and you will see the true price.
@@bjornnyland In Norway, you're probably correct. In Canada... ARIYA ENGAGE (the $55k base model) doesn't even offer a quick charge CCS port. HUD is also not offered at that price (Nissan Canada has not released the full specs yet, this is based on what we know)
@@fleecystheking what the actual phuc, no CCS port as standard??????
Hi Bjorn. I would love to see you test de new Megane E TECH.
Hi, loved this video last year, but since Kia have added battery pre-heating into the car, I wonder if you would be consider repeating to see what difference it has made. I find that it seems possible to get a fairly stable 80kw charging from the car from 20-45% now as long as you enter the charger as the destination into the satnav. The latest Kia software now actually suggests chargers for you, but no idea how it arrives at the choice.
4:45 maybe they save some processing power due to the shortage of semiconductor (?)
What Software you use on the Handy and what OBD dongle you use . Thx
Hey Bjorn, are we going to see any content on the Ssangyong Korando e-motion?
@Bjorn - will you do the MG 4 64kwh anytime soon? I love your videos by the way, keep doing the good work!
Late November.
@@bjornnyland awesome!!
Awaiting
It is good you remove random problems for a fair comparison between cars, but things like charger problems and wait times are common for EV ownership and have to be considered. Can you please make a video about the average time lost relating to charging. Interesting would be Tesla vs other manufactures and are there any improvements or worsening over the years.
10:09 - minimum cell voltage 10% is at 3.6V? On my e-bike that's 50% state of charge. This reminds me of li-poly batteries in smartphones where 0% state of charge is at ~3.5V.
nice video. What APP do you use to monitor charging and battery info?
Its car scanner app
Hi Bjorn. If the price was similar, which would you choose between the Niro (4 trim) and the Ionic 5 (ultimate trim)
For the usual price the Ionic should be a much better vehicle, however the handling and economy seemed better on the Niro. Slow rapid charging on the Niro is a concern, however we'll mostly be charging at home. Going to order one of them this weekend and unsure of which to go for?
Thanks for the interesting video How much juice can the Ecoflow battery give?
Any special cable required to use to charge the car? Thanks
I have the 2022 E-Niro, (got 100K NOK off on the price due to the newcomer^^)
I have, since the end of May, driven the car 17K km, with lots of long trips. F.ex.
Kristiansand-Harstad, Bergen-Oslo-Bergen, Kristiansand-Hamar etc.
In my experience, even though the slow charging speed with the e-Niro, is that it almost charges to fast! Most trips, like Hamar-Bergen, and Kristiansand-Bergen, I don’t even need to charge. And on the trips I have to charge, I only need 5-10min charging.
I like charging stops, it is a part of the roadtrip experience, but I don’t get enough!
What I feel is a LOT more limiting is the 7.6KW type 2 charging speed. We should have 22KW type 2!
My biggest annoyance with the Niro is that WHY do we have to press the button on the door to unlock the car?
The car obviously knows the key are standing just next to the door, because it won’t let you unlock if you don’t. The car should unlock by itself, or when pulling the handle.
Our old 2011 Subaru Outback had this feature. The unlock button is just stupid.
I agree that AC charging speed is crucial. 22kW should be standard on most EVs in my opinion.
Same story with my old Leaf - stupid door open button. My 2010 S-Max has pull handle to open function.
so the consumption is low, and the battery size is decent, I guess it only lost to arya because of the lower charging speed?
Could you explain why charge prices are so damn high in Norway? Is electricity so expensive in general? Thought Germany is the most expensive 🤔
Can tou find the last DS3 ds automobiles (340km upgraded to 402 km wltp) to do a 1000km challenge please 😁?
There is a clock in the side menu, accessed by swapping fingers up and down.
Why are the exterior lights always on when charging to me it wasting power to keep lights on instead of charging battery?
Is the Nissan Ariya a similar price? I thought it was more expensive.
So it is between the ID3 and e-C4... Exactly the cars I feel it compares to. But price wise... It is much to expensive.
Please test the Renault Meganne Electric
Another great video, however in the closing comments you say you would go for the Ariya over the Niro but in the UK to get the same features that even the model 3 Niro has you have to buy the top of range Ariya which is over £10,000 more. Not everyone just compares the monthly cost some of us own our cars and if I was to PX my 21 eniro 3 for the Ariya I would have to find upwards of £18,000 in cash, - OUCH
Yeah, the starter Ariya in the UK is only slightly less (
1€/kWh! 🤯
That navigation is from the 80s.
How did I miss this video? My apologies for asking for it recently.
What is the app you use?
Amazing that 5 Nok is considered cheap.
Better take the EV6, or Ioniq5 with 58kWh battery than the Niro EV. They have almost the same price with way more benefits and the built quality is much more better.
good luck buying new one
They are nowhere near the same price bracket!
poverty spec EV6 vs top spec trim Niro... I will take the Niro. they are only the same price when you do that.
Why is the Tesla Model Y or 3 not on your final spread sheet?
They are there. Just very far up in the list.
ahh, i saw the classic ionique :D
*Ioniq
Dou you plan to test Born or ID3 with 3.0 on 1000km?
Why?
@@bjornnyland just to see if it's gotten any faster with the new charging capacity, etc
Menus are over complex. When the manufacturer is testing, they should get rid of the extra person who just controls the infotainment system. Let the driver do things - while actually driving. No good if you have to look more at a screen than the road.
Tbh I actually prefer the Swedish route all the way down to Helsingborg because it provides a consistent test compared to other 1000km challenge videos - same/similar elevations along the route, which also affects overall efficiency. The Norwegian route might have different elevations and different average speeds (e.g. more left lane hoggers/Sunday drivers and can’t hammer at 120).
Too much rain.
@@bjornnyland Oh fair, I did hear you mention about the rain but forgot to account that it would impact drag, tyre performance and aerodynamics - my bad
11hrs 12 mins and during video you said 7mins deduction so should not it be 11:05? And love your videos :)
We started at 03:25
Imagine this car with ev6 58kWh battery... It would be around 10 hrs if not lower! 11:10 is super good considering that charging speed.
The Niro EV has a 64kWh battery. There would be a trade off between charging speed and overall capacity. Though Bjorn’s strange ‘charge every hour’ approach puzzles me. Is he afraid to show the true capability of the Korean cars which, other than BMW i4, are the most efficient after Tesla. He starts with 100% and in my view should only need 3 charging stops?
is this Niro 4 with h.pump ??
Standard in Norway
I love how much you have too pay for this car 😎
I prefer less battery and think if they would have used EV6 chargingcurve they would have must to raise the price with 1000 sek
This car charges faster than my friggin bZ in summer.
Nice. 🤸👌✨
Studying the charted results at 24:06, I have a feeling if you get a hold of the 2023 model Polestarr 2 SR SM with 69Kwh (as did the Volvo XC40 69Kwh, the Polestar 2 with the improved battery chemistry will move up a few notches in the ranking..
Don’t get the upsettion with fast charging .. how many do really need to fast charge. If you charge 98% of the time at home it really changes how you look at a car.
Looking at that sheet, what is the most impressive is that the Citroen eC4, by a small margin, is as fast as the ID3, Niro and Ariya. The eC4 is a much cheaper car and with a shorter range. Stellantis for the win! Kia, VW and Nissan go home :)
Also look at Tesla Model 3 SR+
Stellantis cars charging speed is very good compared to battery size. Tesla is on another level but hey LFP is superb for charging speed. Efficiency for stellantis cars is not the very best but they promise improvements with the new 115 kW motor that will be mounted on 2023 e-308 and e-208. We will se...
Bolle hav. Any Danes here. LoL
Would have been so much better if you talked about the car and how it drives and feels instead of so much charger stuff.
Would have been so much better if you actually watched the correct video where I talked about how it drives:
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@@bjornnyland Thank you Björn! you rock :D
Whats the point of electric cars when kwh costs 1 euro? That's more expensive than a small diesel car
Home charging costs just 0.1 EUR/kWh. Most of the charging is at home. EVs will always be cheaper than fossil cars simply because fossil cars can't refuel cheap at home.
Go dry or go home 🥪🤣
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