Kia eNiro vs Kia Niro EV. Has Kia improved its best-selling family electric car? Or made it worse?
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The new electric Kia Niro is pretty big news for those of us who like to plug our cars in. Last year the e-Niro was the second best selling electric car in the UK, after the mighty Tesla Model 3. More than 10,000 of us bought them.
And now there is a new model. And it’s fair to say it's controversial in lots of ways. The looks are divisive and some of the technical details make it look like a step back rather than a leap forward.
So we have decided to pitch the new Kia Niro EV against its biggest rival…. The old Kia e-Niro….
Join Tom and Ginny as the compare the two and find out which is the better package.
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I think the majority of e-niro owners don't really care about the charge speed as we charge at home or slow chargers. Secondly, the ride in the old one is too firm and in any kind of wetness it just spins it's tyres. Secondly the majority get over 300 miles of range as it's so efficient. So for the majority of owners, this is quite a nice upgrade with softer suspension, less loss of traction and more useful features and a lot more than 5 miles.
And secondly, the base model ev6 is missing quite a few features over the Niro EV 4 such as front parking sensors, auto parking, premium sound system, ventilated seats and heated rear seats, electric seats, electric tailgate, V2L, many safety systems etc. So is it really worth it over an Niro EV4 just for an 800V system?
You said secondly twice 😉
@@stijnhs Three times
I actually like the sporty feel of the old E-Niro... I will forever cherish the moment I flew past a petrol Porsche
Also the old Niro has an amazing amount of physical buttons, where-as the new KIA cars does not
Yup, I like function buttons, it's not so safe having to go through touch screen menus to access things, it's a distraction
@@richardhaywoodh if I wanted a car with no buttons I would buy a Tesla .
Kia have shot themselves in the foot.
Love my old shape Niro but won’t be buying that new shape.
The electric Ford pickup looks good
I like all kia and hyundai too....
Just like the original Golf GTI Mark I became the purest and best, I have the original e Niro down as becoming one of the great classics of the early EV era. Loving mine to bits after 30 odd years of driving BMWs!
It seems that Hyundai in the 2024 Kona EV learned their lesson. Sage Green ftw.
I think it is a little disingenuous to suggest that people would go for the EV6 in poverty spec over a Niro EV in '4' trim fully loaded, because the price similarity is not the only factor at play when deciding on the car that is right for you.
They are not really in the same market space. The EV6 is a very big car with compromised load space for a start.
In base 'air' spec, where it is similar in price to the fully loaded Niro EV, the EV6 is missing so much kit that the supposed better ride and faster charging wouldn't make up for all the missing kit, for me anyway.
I think it depends on your priorities. TBH, I work with a lot of people who look at cars and know that it has 'this pack' and 'that option' and I just think what sad individuals they are. No car leaves the showroom now without everything that you could realistically want and more, so to call a car 'poverty spec' does not ring true to me. I would have the EV6 if it drives better, and from what I can gather, it does. This is the 'option' I try to find in my cars and it is sadly lacking in most.
And less range.
@@timsmith5339 It's not about knowing exactly what's in each trim etc it's just about knowing that you simply get far less car for the money when you get a poverty spec.
Just got the old niro, and can get 293 miles on the highway. Probably more with the new model.
I just want something with smaller tires. Sure, I wish I had rear wheel drive, but I'm guessing that contributes to efficency.
"It's a family SUV that behaves like an 80's hot hatch" - Maybe I'm weird but that's the comment makes me very interested in a eNiro and lieklwise "it's softer and more grown up" turns me away from the Niro EV
I have one and it's fun. Tbh that torque is one of the only things about the car that is just silly fun. It's a very serious and well designed everyday car otherwise. I think it's sad that they dropped that with the new version
Videos like this are so important. Thank you!
I'm interested in going off grid in a holiday home in Portugal. Having a way to park charge into a car, and get it back is useful. Having a way to go and buy kWH and then feed it back into the house battery in winter - very very interesting.
You didn't think I would notice you took down this video yesterday and re-posted it today 😁
I watched this yesterday as well so don't see the need to watch it again. Thought I imagined this video after it disappeared
I noticed something was wrong but thought it was my phone. I was trying to comment and I couldn't, then I checked the library and searched for it and nothing.
Seriously, I thought it was me and never considered they had removed it.
Helpful video, thank-you.
Viewed the Niro EV at a recent dealer showing and really liked it. The EV6 is more spacious, and faster charging, but has a year+ waiting list, whereas they can deliver a Niro EV in September.
Only viable short term alternative for our family of 4 + dog is the facelifted MG 5. Would be great to see a comparison between that and the Niro EV.
09:15 "... and I love the way it helps to recapture energy that would otherwise of been wasted." Doesn't matter if you use the padlles for one-foot driving or the footbrake, the kinetic energy of the car is converted back to electricity. Nothing is wasted either way.
Getting ours next month, top spec in Cityscape Green.
Great time to buy...2nd hand E-Niro. In fact, that is what I did a few months ago and I'm pretty happy with it.😊
prices nearly as much as the new car, but with 50K on the clock? madness
Old one is faster as well
@@alfamonk got mine for $25k for a totl model.
Nice comparison video. But psst, the torque unit is “pound-foot”, not “pound per foot”.
Great informative video 👍
Good video as always but would take issue with your comment about the price of the 4 being so close to the EV6. The EV6 now starts at £44,165 for the base model whereas the 4 trio Niro is £41,675, so that is approx £2.5k more for the EV6 base model. If you are a private buyer stretching to afford the fully specced Niro thats significantly more, not all of us want PCP which I guess is where your point is valid.
How does the new shape/size effect efficiency? The out going shape got very close to stated range which made it stick out in eV world. Does this one? I ask because I belive the ev6 struggles to be as efficient, I think because of the mass of the thing!
Actually slow fast-charging is the only small drawback of the eNiro, which I encounter once a year during holidays. The new one looks better, feels better, although it's not like the space-ship experience that you get in the ev6. Anyway, it's a perfect all-rounder with decent boot space suitable fo a family of 4, especially when you remove the excessive styrofoam from underneath the boot floor. Higly recommended.
TBH, if I need to stop and charge on a long journey I want to stop with enough time to eat and move around for a while, so charging speeds over 50k are fine, so long as there's a charger available!
What film did you use to film this digital video?
I think the grey / silver additions on the white car (the one tested has black cladding etc and is not the full grey package level 4) looks distinctive. As a driver of a First Edition e-Niro I can honestly say it has been one of the best cars I have owned. I put all weather tyres on mine which improved the handling. In summer I regularly get over 300 miles range. I charge at home so the charging speed is only an issue when traveling long distances and then by the time I have had a drink and something to eat the car is charged. The running costs are very low. No car tax, very little spent on fuel (I have solar) and residual values that are nearly double the sum expected 3 years ago. So the changeover price to purchase the new version (even with the price rise) is okish.
I wouldn’t buy an EV6 as it is too big and the price / spec for the base version mean even the top spec version of the Niro EV is better value. Plus the waiting time of several months.
We have children in car seats in the back so I actually much prefer the harder plastic used on the back of the front seats - kids tend to kick the back seats (mostly unintentionally)!
There is a reason that the e-Niro has proved so popular as a family run around. I think the new one will prove to be just as popular. For me the improved design, upgraded interior, better tech etc and cost to change made it a relatively easy decision to order the new model. I hope it will be at least as good as my current version.
I test drove the new Niro EV in the basic 2 trim yesterday. I was underwhelmed and did not enjoy the experience. While the drive and handling are very good as described in the review, I found the interior unsatisfying and it just did not feel right. I hate the change from digital to analogue speedo with its 160mph top speed requiring a double take to stay at the 50-70 speed limit. It made me feel unsafe. After a very enjoyable 75 mile drive home via Speyside in my current 2 year old e-Niro 4 and a good night's sleep, I have cancelled my Niro EV 4 order this morning. Why 'upgrade' the perfect car? I will wait for the EV4.
You know you can configure the speedo anyway you like?
i have owned my 4+ since january and love it. hate the new colour coded rear and old volvo style rear light clusters. i’ll stay with my 4= and getting 300 miles range and the physical buttons on dash as well as excellent display. why would i change!
Ive never heard someone complain about a car having power. Very strange.
I'll let you know in a few weeks. I've got one in 3 spec due in a fortnight. I've driven the hybrid in the same spec which is way more comfortable than the previous version.
We had a Smart fortwo in White with a metalic grey Tridion. It looked really good and attracted lots of compliments. Don't think it translates to the Nero EV ! lol
I agree I would buy the new over version over the previous one. However, as one of the 10k who bought one in the last year I don't think I will trade in and update. I really like the styling and that the new model is much more modern, but I don't think it offers enough of an upgrade given the increased cost.
Great review Ginny's game show jacket wasn't distracting at all 😁 I would take the older model as I feel that a second hand Ev is even kinder to the environment
Does it have one pedal drive
I do like the new design but is it still a compromise of a car as it is ICE, PHEV and BEV models on the same platform
The silver rear quarters look absolutely terrible 😳 just saying from North of Newcastle 👍
I own a 2022 pre facelift Niro hybrid and love it. That said, I prefer the exterior aesthetics of new version, but the swichgear of the previous model. Kia really know what they are doing, but they need to watch their prices
I'm glad you addressed the 35% less torque in further detail than other reviewers because that is a puzzling change, especially if it's the same motor as before, as the lady mentioned. Limiting current and therefore torque is hardly going to be related to economy because you don't have your foot in it anyway when driving for economy and a limit helps nothing. They could have improved traction control if needed by better active means, or limited torque in all but Sport mode so it's still there if needed. But what they've done is simply lock out a significant part of the motor's designed torque envelope for no stated reason. Will the next Kona be the same? I can only assume that this is because both these runout models have gearbox problems. The E-GMP cars have a completely different motor/gearbox architecture. Thanks for the review!
I think it‘s not the same motor. It uses more rotational speed and the same power, so the new Niro EV has almost the same acceleration.
@@pharmajoe5468 do have any references to that I can read about?
I had a 2020 Niro EV it was great car until i found out about the silver strip on the dash blinding me by the sun also the top of glossy black the rear wing and tops of the silver hood rails faded within 2 years and looked horrible otherwise nice car with great range but lease was up so i traded it in a week ago for 2023 Niro Wave trim. What a difference the new is a totally different car much nicer and filled with tech 👍🏻 such a pleasure to drive but within a week i found that the piano black top shifter console was blinding me when the sun hit it🤬 and then the dual climate/radio control is a horrible idea don’t like that at all and finally within the first week the charge port door stopped unlocking upon parking and the exterior door lock/unlock sensors on door handles starting acting up🤬 im hoping this issue and charge door was from 110f weather we have been having here in so cal🤞🏻🤞🏻
A heads up for anyone who has ordered a Niro 4 spec. Kia have removed the Harmon Kardon sound system from that spec, replacing it with the standard system! This has been confirmed by my dealer who, when I raised the question with them having seen a post on a Facebook page, knew nothing about it. This applies to orders made after 8th July without an change in price; bit if a cheek (actually, taking the piss) given price rise on 1st July. Have also heard, but not yet confirmed, that they have removed power tailgate form spec as well.
Can you comment on the front headrests? They look too far forward and uncomfortable but are they in reality? I do like the whole instrument cluster upgrade. Unlike the EV6 it has a rear wiper which IMO too many cars these days dont have. Looks nicer maybe but can be impractical / irritating.
I've heard that the headrests can be adjusted forwards and backwards in four different positions
Having done over 30k miles in an eNiro I have never found that it has too much power / performance. It’s all down to how it’s driven…….
At 5mins 20seconds in, the dash clock went backwards a minute….? 🤔
The over-torque, burn-out tendency was one reason that I was avoiding the Niro, so good they have softened that a bit. This is a long-range monster, so energy efficiency is #1 reason to get one IMO. Plus, if I'm travelling long distances regularly, I don't want to replace the tyres every 6 months!
You’re not replacing tyres every 6 months.
I do 3000 miles per month
I got my E Niro in Feb 2021 .
Replaced the front tyres in December 2021 .
So pretty good.
The torque is incredible when needed.
Nice to put your foot down and move.
Majority of the time you’re just hurtling along at 70 and all is good.
I get 250 to 260 miles on a charge in summer and 220 in winter.
If I drove more conservatively the range would be way better indeed.
But there is no need.
If you’re a burn out type of guy, sure , you’ll chew through tyres.
But this car just is not made for that😀😀
Easily avoided if you just put the car in eco mode like any other EV lol
When you were talking about the reduction in the motor torque, I was confident it was going to be an improvement to efficiency. Then there was the aerodynamic improvements too. I felt sure that the reduced charging rate was going to be offset by more miles per kW/hr. So I did the sums for you, Kia's range figures equate to an extra 1.5 miles of range over the old car if the battery was enlarged by the same amount. That is a 0.5% improvement in efficiency, welcome, but not sufficient to justify losing the torque and charge rate. Basically it feels like the same tech with the compromises shifted a bit.
They reduced it because of the tire wear.
Somehow a group of EVs and hybrids driven in Canada this past summer had the Niro EV from 2023 get better efficiency than the Ioniq 6, go figure. The full write up is on Arstechnica's web site.
The "too much power" thing on the old one is nonsense... Yes, it can spin it's wheels but from my experience only in sport mode which you know, most sane people will very rarely use. I'm a 25 year old e-niro owner and honestly as long as you don't drive it like a motoring journalist you'll be fine
I do like the older e Niro, because it can make a burnout!
But the EV6 is beautiful ❤❤❤
Recently I did bought an e Niro 2019 Executive line. I luv it!!!
I was going to buy the e-nero, but now not too sure on the new EV. I need charging speed, not bigger, or towing. Back to the drawing board.
The EV6 in the showroom seemed really cramped height-wise. I'm only 6'3", there are plenty of much taller people than me, but it was straight out as an option because of that, plus the really useless boot space, nowhere near the shape or volume I need. Though to be fair, I didn't get much time to actually check it out as the sales rep in the garage just wouldn't leave us alone, stood in the car doorway talking/selling constantly. Ugh.
The Niro is on the shortlist, thankfully the second dealer we went to wasn't full of try-hard salesmen so we got a chance to check it out in peace and test drive it. The new Kona has to be on the list as well though, quite a bit better efficiency & much better specs for the lower trim levels...
I like the gold lama jacket 😂😂, and the updated nero,s ok too 😊👍😎
Just got an 2022 Niro electric. It is sooooo much fun to drive. Very drivable as a cruiser but if you really want to go, it goes.
Don’t understand the issue with charging speed, if you mostly charge at home from a wall box then it’s not an issue. Plus I live in the north east of Scotland and there are mostly 50kwh chargers apart from the faster ones in the Porsche and Tesla dealers.
We went for a test drive and after getting over the shock of how little our less then 3 year old NIro4+ was worth we also felt the new Niro was very plasticky. We didn't like the centre console. The biggest let down, was on a car priced £40k, the boot cover was like a children's pop up tent.
So bigger battery, reduced motor power, slower 0 to 60, solid aero 3/4 you can see through but more efficient channeling air over the rear window gives you......... 5 miles extra range what a huge step forward, not, all those changes should have resulted in 50 miles more range except the original e-Niro was so efficient in the first place!
I've recently purchased the 1st edition bev niro and I have to say I'm so pleased kia didn't bolt on the beautiful EV6 nose as the new one is Fugly! Sadly kia hasn't done away with the utterly pointless extra polycarbonate bits in the boot I've taken all mine out of the boot and gained an extra 30%. Yes it has a lip but who cares with the extra capacity. Cheers
No mention of value for money.?
Does it not seem like a lot more money for only little improvement?
I prefer the new shape of the nero. I dont like the looks to busy unless you go for colour coded. Tech spec ( charge speed) is too low for 2022 and no AWD version. Its not work the £42000 Kia are asking for it when £6000 more gets you a mid range AWD EV6 which has better colours too.
No i wont be getting EV6 either as boot capacity and design is too small for me and my uses. Plus both too expensive for average joe blogs.
Dont agree that its better and less is more . The goal post's by other in same bracket have set the bar higher than the niro spec so its at best stagnated / taken step backwards.
A couple of pointers here:
1) They mention that the new Niro EV is just 0,3seconds slower than the old one. This is wrong. You cannot compare the official numbers 0-100km/h (~0-60MPH). Also, the new Niro EV have 72kW peak charge rate at CCS. However, the battery chemistry is changed and charging curve is changed, which in theory, it should be pretty equal.
That's Very interesting..
You compare charging speeds but don't mention that it stays higher longer so the charge curve is better and gets to 80% faster than the old one. Who cares about 0-60 unless you're on a track, it is still nothing to sneeze at. As Bjorn showed the frunk also has a seal to prevent dust and leaves getting in but useful for charge cables or to keep drinks cool. I see your spanner but only if you actually fit in the EV6, I don't my head rubs the roof so the Niro EV is a better car for me as my head has plenty of room.
@10:25 immediately after talking about the peak charging speed being slower they specifically mention the charging curve and time difference for a 10-80% charge.....
@@johnsweet1915 I'm waiting to see the charging curve and Bjorn/Kyle/Tom are all testers who will do that along with a number of others.
The new Kia logo is very much better than the old one. But the side flash is for those few wanting it to stand out. The design in the front look a bit more modern, but the rest is not very intresting. Anyway, I would include this in my list of interesting new car to buy, but I would order it without that side flash.
Niro EV actually have a 4th drive mode: Snow ❄️
Our family has run two Kia E-Niro First edition EV’s since June 2019 with over 150,000 miles driven between the two. The bigger boot and back seat are welcomed, but while others have increased range and charging speed Kia perhaps have missed a trick. Yes, we would buy again, but the styling isn’t our taste. A great work horse and you will be as anonymous as if you were wearing Harry Potters Cloak. This car will make a great mini cab.
I love my new Kia EV Niro 4 trim , would rather have that than a bottom range Ev 6, and majority of the time i charge at home so charging time is not an option
Mmmm. I'd pass, and fork out a bit more for the EV6. The biggest shortcoming to me is the charging speed. It's obvious that DC Fast Chargers are getting more robust and powerful, and any EV on the market needs to match those capabilities.
THis a literal "your mileage may vary" but with 2+ years 18k miles i use chargers away from home very infrequently so charging speed is an irrelevance to me. OK maybe once or twice a year I'll have to wait an extra 10 minutes? OTOH the extra say 30-40 miles of the Niro over the EV6 may mean no need to charge at all so it balances out. Unless you are a road warrior with multiple long distance drives (in which case, maybe just get a Tesla?) I'd say charging speed is far less important than many other features. If I was choosing now id almost certainly get the Niro.
@@Joe-lb8qn Well, goody for you. Me? I've driven 6,417 miles cross-country, at least 15 times on 1,500-mile roadtrips, and more times than I can count on 300-mile trips. I welcome fast charging speeds on such journeys.
@@Yanquetino thats why I said, "unless you are a road warrior". For that frequent long trips id be getting a tesla for sure not just for the speed but the availability / reliability of chargers.
Don’t agree. I’d actually prefer having 20 -30 mins to charge my car while I go for a coffee and toilet break. Faster charging just makes you hang around the car impatiently waiting so you can move it.
@@AlanTov Uh… Ginny states that charging from 10% to 80% will take 43 minutes (Niro EV) and 52 minutes (eNiro). To take only 20-30 minutes like you prefer will require the faster charging rates I'm talking about. Indeed, when I drove 6,417 miles cross-country last fall, I used 150kW and 250kW Superchargers, always charging to 80%. Average time per charge on that trip? 21 minutes, just right for visiting the restroom, getting a coffee, etc., as you prefer.
The Niro EV 4 with heat pump, basic price is £41745, The equivilent trim in the EV6 (with all the same bells and whistles) appears to be the EV6 GT-Line S basic price £51695.
That is about £10000 more, and I agree it seems a much more desirable car. But £10K more desirable?
The EV6 is also much bigger - I live in leafy Buckinghamshire and the Lane I live in is single track at both ends, lined with unfriendly hedges, and cars the width of the EV6 all end up with scratched sides. I took an Ioniq 5 home as part of a test loan, and the salesman alongside me in the car was not happy about driving there.
Not the sort of thing you come across in youtube video reviews!
But what did you think about the Ioniq 5 ??
@@Ben-oy1td It's a great car. Although they are different it was hard to choose between the Ioniq and EV6. I think it would be down to personal choice. My wife preferred the looks of the Ioniq whereas I prefer the looks of the EV6. However the Ioniq is a "brighter" car for those inside.
However both ruled out because of their width. I need to change car very soon, so will probably go with the Niro EV, as can't wait for Kia to introduce the EV4.
Most of the conclusions you made could have been done by anyone just comparing specs.
Yeah the understanding of the specs is missing though. The conclusions are dead wrong and rather stupid.
Whoa! Major deja-vu.
So it has more interior room, better range, better exterior styling, new frunk (front trunk), much improved and updated interior, tech upgrades, remote smart parking assist, V2L (to power electrical appliances using the battery power), softer smoother suspension, a quieter ride and charges faster. The title is click bait and not cool. Great vehicle...a big fan of Kia. They make some wonderful vehicles.
The new one looks like a cut-n-shut having the rear end of a Ford focus.
Comparing the Niro EV to EV6 is silly. The EV6 is much more expensive and much larger. The Niro ‘2’ is £36k the ‘3’ £38k. That comes against the ID3 or Megane eTech level.
I also reviewed the Kia Niro in my channel and I must say, I love the new design and colour theme! But the practicality solutions inside were debatable
Greetings from Belgium!
The old one is more beautiful and stronger than the new one
Niro ev 2023 vs Kona electric 2024? Which one is better?
For range I would say the Kona (500 vs 410 for the Niro) However the Kia Niro Ev is a little more well rounded
I prefer the old one for looks new one ripe for a facelift.
Which car are not.... ?
I like your chatter and sarcasm, but generally the first half was too fluffy and didn't contribute to your conclusion. So I found this comparison not really useful. I look forward to you comparing the Kia Niro EV to its real competitors and stating the proper significant differences 😄 Thank you.
Shame what Kia did with the Irish market, no sunroof, no memory seats, no premium sound system and no remote smart parking assist. On top of the slow charge speed and battery size that makes the Niro Ev not a good option here, btw the car is priced more expensive than UK =/
Personally I like the new model. As the old one looked like all of KIA's older designs... Kind of "something wrong" / "budget". Where as the New designs coming from KIA look fresh & modern.
Why complaining about a slightly lower peak charging power, when it actually charges faster (9min less time to 80%) in total since it keeps charging longer at higher speed?
Huh? I thought Kia was just going to use the 800V charging architecture. The new design is sharp but serious? 76 kW charging?
Gold jacket? Glam rock. What's not to like??
You probably need to wait for the EV4 next year - that will be the smaller brother of the EV6 with 800V charging, but the size of the Niro EV. I think the Niro is designed - and perfect - for families who only rarely do really long trips; if you frequently need fast charging, then either the EV6 or the smaller forthcoming EV4
@@markosborne1740 If I could get a EV6 I would put a deposit on one now. The Niro is too small for what I want. Also the ID4 AWD is a possibility. Basically all of the OEMs make Canada their last priority for EVs so I might be forced to get another petrol engine car. I like the 2023 X1.
@All
... Yes, it would be nice for the business driver fraction if the Niro EV could charge with >=125 kw. For me and maybe the other "new e-automobilists" with a somewhat more limited budget, it's just right. Why? Because we charge 94% of Our time at the wall box. Neither Taycan, Model3, e-tron, EV6 nor others will top that at home. Instead, they burn significantly more kW per 100km and are also significantly more expensive to buy. Anyone who wants to finance the express charging surcharge should do so. What counts for me is how much I pay for the 100 km driven route, whether it is based on tried-and-tested technology (eNiro since 2018 with the best references) and whether maintenance costs me a pig's money. It has to have a frunk, be able to carry bike racks and pull the small trailer, be comfortable to drive and have useful assistants.
I guess that they are going after the over 70 crowd
I think the new version looks scarily much like an old Ford Focus from behind….
So, after 4 years of development they reached the same range on the same size battery and a lot less torque. How on earth did the range not significantly increase with weakening the car so much?
@@garysmith5025 Makes sense. I was wondering if this is the reason, but even my wife shoots out at every roundabout like crazy 😁
Who cares? The original was rated 239 in the US which is horribly underrated - I can get almost 300 miles on the highway at 72mph.
Hate the front lights, and the back panel a different color horrible
Less torque is less torque. There are tech advancements in the new one, but this line about tire burning and lack of refinement is not very convincing to this owner....sure - put it in sport and punch it - it'll grapple for grip - that is fun - oh yes. If you don't put it in sport and punch it, you are left with a very quick car that handles curves very nicely, with a firm but comfy ride. Not sure why all this backfilling on the massive torque cut, without a real engineering reason give.There may be one, but maturity is not it. Anyway - it is what they will offer, and it is probaby still a good car, albeit with a midlife crisis design.
So nearly every measure given is fot etc, but suddenly the size of the trunk in liters?
Why cant you British once and for all embrace the superior metric-system?
Is it a Britishism to state the torque as "pounds per foot"? Or did I mishear? In the US it's "pound feet".
It's not British, it's plain wrong. In America it's pound feet, as you say, or foot pounds (same thing). The same applies in the UK, though normally we prefer newton metres N⋅m
I think they shoot themselves in the foot with these spec's. Size doesn't sell the package.
Is Tom’s EV6 argument taking into account our current situation where everyone is paying $5-$10K over sticker???
That's exclusive to the US.
@@wojciechmuras553 And it’s still a question…
@@kyliefan7 And the answer is no, because Tom lives in the UK...
Kia e-niro old has more spacius cabin room leg and head room.
it will eventually come with faster charging, but it would have been a mistake to launch it with same speeds as EV6 as it would only take sales away from itself and they really want to push the EV6 sales numbers just now
Txt kia that the design team needs a change.
The interior looks cheap compared to the old one
The fact that the new one has so much less torque is a real letdown for me...
The old niro relied heavily on traction control which is why the new niro has had a reduction. In the real world there would be little difference.
He accelerates 0-60 in the same time as the e Niro. What's your problem!?
It's like Kia WANTS you to keep buying the older, better looking, less fussy and more affordable Niro EV.
The new Niro EV cherges almost 10min faster because of efficient electronics and better battery as it will keep that 72kw charging speed for longer so get your facts straight :)
A family EV having too much power and torque...I'll respectfully disagree. I think it has just the right amount.
A huge step backwards. The new one looks awkward, especially from the rear, the interior is no longer that friendly, intuitive refuge of sense, but instead another touchscreen crazy, sterile spaceship, the powertrain has been robbed of all the fun, and it's all more expensive now.
Horrible change, even if the slightly improved charging is a welcome fix.
I personally enjoy the design of the old car, the new car looks so boring, the only good thing it's the interior, the exterior looks really awful.
I want an EV6. but the dealer tells me I can either way 2-2.5 years for an EV6 for wait 6 months for a Niro EV....
Kinda ruins the option if you have to wait 2 years longer for one of them.
Well as I've said before and will say again, probably come 2030 I and many more UK drivers will still be driving ICE vehicles as we see no profitable use for switching to EV's .
Yes changing means less paying out at fuel stations, less things to go wrong under the hood / bonnet so less time spent in garages .
But living high up in a tower block with no physical means of recharging except at a public charger I find it impossible to rethink my driving experience - if I am still driving that is, I'm getting older and things are starting to wear down, as is everyone else.
All to expensive for the average working man/woman, FACT.
jaysus wept. i couldn't watch past the first few minutes of screwed up statistics.
Wow that's a incredibly boring design, really poor job by KIA. They need to fire the person that approved this design immediately
Sorry way too Fugly for me - shame quite liked the look of the old one! Nothing in the new one would make me buy it and it’s price is nudging into the class above now.
Class above is going to jump away soon dont worry...
Why was the video reposted ? Umm. At £43K it’s just too expensive for what you get and not a big enough move forward. Sorry guys at this price point there are and very soon will be a swathe of far better cars. The Smart #1 is one example.
Next year it will be cheap as all cars will get more expensive fast.
@@hansoosterhof2294 The Chinese haven’t really arrived yet. Let’s see
Kia offered me £31K on my late 2020 E Niro 4+ full leather in part exchange for the new Niro EV 4 at £42800 in Blue or Green. So that’s £12000 to update to less power, cheaper finish, mixed external facelift, marginally better range and some fancy software displays. Even with VTL and automatic tail gate, I’m not convinced that’s a good deal at all. Ummm 🤔