FYI: For those who is getting a heatsink separately to install onto your NVMe M.2 ssd, don’t buy the ones that come with a rubber band because 1.. they’re not good for heat dissipation and 2.. they’ll wear out really quick and snap inside the ssd bay. You’ve been warned! 🤷🏻♂️⚠️⚠️⚠️
Fyi, do not upgrade your ps5s ssd period right now. Don't do it. Don't recommend it. It's bricking systems left and right. It's in beta. And Sony is not replacing consoles that brick. They are only liable AFTER the beta period is over.
@@user-ky9ou5dz9q well imma trust you Rn I only have 800 gigs How can I get more storage on my system because I’ve been looking for about an hour can’t find a solution
@@bubu9017 there is no external options for storage for god knows what reason. But it's supposed to be "coming" but no eta. Just wait a couple more months until the beta period ends. Then they can be liable if your system breaks.
Thanks. I used everything you did and my install was successful. The Samsung 980 ssd set me back $189 but it was worth it considering I didn’t know anything about installing a ssd
WARNING: You need to isntall the cover back because it is designed to draw air from the bottom to cool. That is negative pressure cooling. You will drastically reduce the life of that SSD.
Really want to say thanks for letting people know about what works and seeing it which really is awesome, I ordered heatsinks online and ssd at a local store for east pick up and I will be ready for when Sony allows all of us to upgrade but at least I have my stuff in advance before the demand goes into effect to avoid if a shortage occurs in ssd drives
Upgraded mine with a 2tb samsung 980 pro and it works flawlessly. Played cyberpunk, nioh2, ratchet and clank, returnal, demon souls, ghost of tsushima, judgement, etc all performed great.
as far as i know Lost Judgement launches End september. are you a Developer, a timetraveler or just a liar? Edit: Or you have just misspelled something XD I'm sorry for that sassy comment
Thanks for the video! I got in a Western Digital 2TB SN850X NVMe drive this week, along with a separate heat sink, and it was a piece of cake to install following your instructions. I didn't think it would be difficult, but it was still great to have everything laid out step by step. After formatting, the PS5 gave me a read speed of 6,534, which I'm really happy with. in
Dude great observation it makes sense to have th washer under the SSD I was kinda freaked out to see the SSD wiggle so much when inserted but now I feel more comfortable with the washer supporting the SSD. you are the man! Lol
Yeah. This actually wasn't that helpful IMO, sorry. Devil is in the details when explaining things to newbies, and he left out some very crucial details.
I just installed mine tonight using this video as my tutorial. When I had it all put back together and propped it up, I could hear rattling inside. I freaked out and took it apart again. Sure enough it was that washer moving around, I didn’t even notice it prior!
Sabrent actually made their heatsink in the way you described. You get a thermal pad to stick to the SDD and then the heatsink is literally a replacement of the cover you need to put back on. The reviews I've seen said it works really well. Plus you don't necessarily have to buy the Sabrent SSD as the cover they made is compatible with any M2 that fits [but hast to have no heat sink].
Do a video where you try one of the CHEAPEST SSDs that’s still to specs, but not as good as a more expensive one, and see how it compares to a better SSD
I haven't done any testing on this, but my understanding is that you don't need an extra heatsink for normal use. I use a Samsung 1tb 970 evo as the main storage for my PC with no extra heatsink attached to it without any problems. The stickers that come attached to the ssd by default are made of metal and act as mini heatsinks.
Pro tip: Anything under 140F (60c) is great for these SSDs. Over that and it will start to affect performance (and majorly reduce lifespan) 108F is only 42c which is fantastic temp especially for that warm room
Just a note for whomever reading, for some reason the 1TB and 2TB 980 Pro is only getting about 5500-5800MB/s, opposed to the 500GB model getting 6500MB/s. Nobody knows the reason why, it could be a firmware issue on the PS5, or the controller on the 1TB/2TB models not playing well with it. Update Jan 10, 2022: This was fixed with a new Samsung firmware released in Nov. People are now getting 6500+
@@damefame8921 Oh damn. It was 5 months ago on Beta firmware. I'm not sure if this was ever updated, or if the normal firmware is ok. Need to research about this
Thanks for the vid, I got the 1tb SN850 and a heat sink to go with it coming tomorrow. I never felt like space was much of an issue anyway but this will be perfect for the rest of the gen.
Thanks for this vid, really concise and easy to follow. Installed the Western Digital SN850 NVMe SSD (with a standard cheapo aluminium heat sync) which read at just over 6500MB/s in the initial test, pushed a few games to it and works well so far!
After Sony enabled the SSD upgrade in the PlayStation 5, it was a matter of time before makers of actual drives announced SSDs optimized for the console. This week TeamGroup Japan unveiled its T-Force Cardea A440 Pro Special Series SSDs that are tailored specifically for PS5. In fact, these drives are the highest-performing SSDs that TeamGroup has introduced so far.
The thing people don’t understand. That 980 Pro had a “heat-sink” already. The sticker on the front already acts as a heatsink. It’s made of aluminum. So he put a heatsink on a heatsink.
Thank you for the instructions. I bought an SSD with the heatsink already included and it was recognised, formatted and moved some games without problem
Awesome ! Thanks for making this video, I've been trying to find an SSD with a heatsink but I think I'm gonna try to do third party heatsink just like you
You need to update the firmware version of the Samsung drive using the Samsung Magician software to unlock the full read/write speeds. After the firmware update the PS5 will give you a read speed of over 6500MB/s for the 980 Pro.
@@ItsNickYo303 You need to first install the Samsung 980 Pro in a PC temporarily and run Samsung Magician software to update its firmware. You may then remove it from the PC and install the SSD in the PS5. The updates firmware is permanently written to the SSD, so it won’t be overwritten by the PS5.
@@ItsNickYo303 I don't think firmware can be overwritten by the OS because the firmware is stored on a chip on the drive that isn't the same as the normal storage chips.
@@bloomerb4162 the smaller drives are slower significantly. my 4TB sata SSD is more then DOUBLE the speed of my nvme pci-express 4.0 drive... because that drive is only 500GB. The more space headroom you give them, the faster the controller works. So that is why the larger sides are SO expensive. It's more then just the space difference.
@@Easelgames SATA’s third generation runs at 6Gb/s and has a bandwidth throughput of 600MB/s. A PCIe 3.0x2 connection can run just under 2GB/s, and x4 just under 4GB/s respectively. This puts NVMe drives at speeds upwards of 2000MB/s compared to your typical SATA III SSD running under 600MB/s.
I literally saw the thumbnail of the 980pro thought this said “Upgrading the PS3 with an SSD.” And was excited 😂 can’t wait to do this with my PS5 though! Just gonna wait until it’s not beta anymore. 😂
@@GGaievski are you serious? Microsoft has one that you just put in a slot on the outside of the case. You can hot swap them. You don’t need to disassemble the console to put it in
@@GGaievski the OP was about how you don’t have to remove the built in SSD, so this is more adding than upgrading. You commented yeah; Microsoft should have done that. Microsoft of course more than satisfied what the OP was praising. You don’t have to take out their SSD. You get additional storage. What you are now telling me is that when you said “Microsoft should do this.” What you meant was something that was not mentioned either by the original post nor by you. Ok sure. Do you have a series x or series s?
@@Nonx47 That's by design, the console uses negative pressure to keep the expansion bay cool, both the expansion bay cover and console side panel are needed for that to work. The console uses the large fan to create this negative pressure sucking the hot out, if it had anymore air flow the cooling solution would not work and temperatures would actually be worse. Did you see how fast the ssd temp was rising when he took the cover off?
@@chrismorrison5301 you can't suck the air out without airflow. The heat needs to literally be transferred to the air, then have the air moved out. That's how heat transfer works. If there was more airflow, it would cool better. That's a fact.
@@Nonx47 I never said it didn't have air flow. I literally said anymore and the negative pressure cooling wouldn't work. I literally said "that's by design" in reply to you saying "looks to be very little". Very little is still air flow of sorts.
Yea. My first time opening up joycon. I broke 2 of mine trying to fix it...they are so fragile. My other pair of joycon I repaired with no issue though
@@SgtGnome you are not alone my friend. I have messed up a lot of Joy Cons myself. I have spare parts and I by broken job lots to fix. It is good practice and I find them a lot easier to open up. The hardest part is the ribbon cable that connects to the rail; that thing is SO fragile!
@@AriesSpirit25 I am interested to see if the OLED Joy Cons will have the extra padding inside. I’ve ordered one so I might open them up and upload the video.
I have the 2tb 980 pro and my benchmark showed up under 5000MBs but still works exactly like the internal. Seeing widely varying numbers with this drive from other users. I wouldn't put much stock in how the PS5 benchmarks it.
The AMD SoC on the motherboard is most likely benchmarking the SSD as its formatting it which can impact numbers as it’s technically doing two things at once: Benchmarking and formatting.
Not sure I agree that it would have been a good idea for Sony to install a heatsink option on the M.2 cover. While there are standard form factors for the size of the M.2 drives, not every manufacturer sticks as close to those form factors as Samsung or other high quality brands. Letting the end user handle finding a heatsink option not only allows for those irregularities to be overcome, bit it's also cheaper for Sony, both in manufacturing and design costs. Also, as you mentioned, some drives come with heatsinks already attached, and those obviously wouldn't be usable if Sony preinstalled one.
@@lokilikesfrogs "you don't need one to begin with" The ignorance of this is amazing... thermals of these SSD's when under full load is extremely high. Sony haven't said a heatsink is a minimum requirement for no reason.
70% of their end users are ignorant when it comes to these things. I get the pros of why it's up to the consumer but that strategy itself comes with many cons
Fitted westerly Digital Black SN850 1 TB With heat sink fitted getting 6999 Read And 5299 Thanks to this video and comments regarding the fitting screw made it so easy Runs like a dream
Why are people suddenly complaining about how hard installing these SSD's are on the PS5 and that their poor grandmas won't be able to install these for them. It's literally easier upgrading these compared to last gen, it wasn't a problem before but suddenly now it's a problem?
Just installed using this guide your simple instructions for how to get the top off especially was better then almost all the others I've read! Thanks Spawn
Thx for the vid! Just installed mine after almost a month of having my new SSD drive. Waited for a while bc I was a bit uneasy about taking this apart, as simple as it was. I am just not good at this sort of thing. You made it easy. I enjoy your other vids too!
Thanks for the tutorial man! I was finally able to get my hands on a ps5 I’m gonna get it on Christmas but I already ordered my 980 pro and the same heat sink so I’m looking forward to it!
@@Space__RoosterUnfortunately, probably. Though, a sheet of paper wedged in between isn't very conductive. Boot up your PS5 before you put it back together to verify it works properly OR load it into your PC and use a disk validation tool if you want to cover your hide.
@@noid5058 yeah I imagine paper more insulates heat rather then disperse it. Why do so many companies and stores have to put stickers or everything it's very annoying
I foresee these drives coming down a lot in price over the next year. Most of the first party games are delayed until next year anyways. I can maybe see myself upgrading around next fall/holiday.
Same here. Plus I'd like to wait for more confirmed numbers on these drives as to how the major brands perform. Someone above mentioned a 2tb 980 pro and it's running a 500 slower than Johns smaller 980. I'm hoping the WD 2tb heat sink model tests well. That's what I'm personally leaning towards.
This is natural among electronics, which is why I love that Sony went this way. This is also great for PC users, as these drives will come down in prices.
@@TigonIII yea, last year I bought just a 256 GB nvme for my PC just for my operating systems. If they weren't so damn expensive, I would have gotten a much bigger one so I can put a few of those fast loading next gen games on it too.
667. It might have been worth mentioning the compression tech used in the PS5 which makes games smaller than the competition and causes you to be able to fit more games on the PS5 in comparison. Because if this I doubt I will be getting an ssd anytime soon. If you noticed the ssd getting hotter pretty fast with the cover removed, that's because the system uses negative pressure to keep the ssd bay cool and you need the ssd cover and the console side panel on for that to work.
I was wondering if that was important to keep that on 🤔 I was thinking it would keep it cooler with the cover off so thanks for clarifying and saving me from myself
@@Space__Rooster That's alright, I thought the same thing not long ago as it is the logical conclusion. I watched a video that tested a 980 pro without a heat sink, with a small one (cheap, £10/$15) and with one so large (not as cheap £20/$25) you couldn't put the cover on, the conclusion was you need a heat sink (it worked without but it was a lot hotter, would cause deterioration over time) and the results of the small heat sink + cover and large heatsink without the cover where practically the same. This is due to the negative pressure cooling being in affect for the small one but not the large one, so a small cheap heatsink will be more than enough with the cover on. But avoid ones that use rubber bands, those are shit lol.
Yes please do another video comparing other SSDs with and w/o heat sinks! Maybe even try different storage sizes because some companies will give the less space a lower rated speed. I know that these SSDs can get expensive, but just a few ideas!
The console uses negative pressure to keep the ssd cool, the expansion bay cover and side panel are both needed for that to work. Without one or both the ssd would get hotter.
@@victorscarpes it doesn't need to be for the amount of pressure needed for the cooling method to work. The pressure change isn't that far different from the room it's in, but it's enough to suck out all the hot air from the bay
Now that I have the PS5 console and the games, I'll just install the m.2 internal SSD drive with heatsink into the PS5 console expansion slot. Thanks for letting me know.
I'm very curious how these SSD's are gonna hold up in 5years. I can see alot of heating issues popping up in older models (these ones) when the PS5 slim is eventually released to improve on the desighn.
Nothing would be a replacement for an actual heatsink. But in sure it would have *some* effect. These name drives get quite warm, though. And lower temps will kill them than something like a CPU or GPU.
I'd be interested to know, if the OEM ssd fails, could you install the PS OS on one of these added internal ssds and run the system off that, so you're not left with a paperweight.
If you’ve ever upgraded the HDD in a ps4, it’s the same exact steps. Download the software from Sony’s site onto a usb drive and pop that into your ps5 after you’ve installed your new SSD.
@@SmokeyHavoc Is that confirmed or just a guess? because that would assume the system will just happily bypass and ignore the existence of the broken OEM SSD thats soldered to the board.
@@Bodom1after1midnight yeah I had no idea when I posted my comment that the ps5 has its very own internal ssd on the motherboard lmao. I assumed you just switched them out like on the ps4. I’d assume if the internal ssd takes a shit, you’d have to send it to Sony to be repaired or replaced.
But a flat $220 to officially expand the Xbox Series consoles at launch was ridiculous, right? While I can totally agree that this is a simple procedure, I've got what they call "Buzzard Luck". I'm just going to wait a few months and listen to other peoples experiences until I hear about more clear cut winners.
There is a lot of misinformation on the airflow of that compartment it has two small hole in the bay and the lid needs to be on as the fan uses negative pressure to suck heat out of the compartment this was from an interview with a Japanese engineer at Sony who helped build the console leave the lid on its there for a reason
Leave it on the bay uses negative pressure so the fan can suck the heat out this was straight from mr Otori a Japanese engineer at Sony who helped build the console
No, the console uses negative pressure to keep the expansion bay cool, both the expansion bay cover and console side panel are needed for that to work.
If you're gonna upgrade why bother with 1tb when the ps4 pro wasn't enough with 1tb? A true gamer had to have minimum 4tb on their ps4. I have a 4tb internal and 8tb external on my ps4 pro. The 8tb is already filled up and thw 4tb internal is already being utilized. I haven't upgraded my ps5 yet, but when I do I am not wasting my time with 1tb, but your video is helpful for those who wanna learn to do it. Thanks for the instructions! 💪🏽
@@msg4672 Also on things like this. The aluminum heatsink will just disperse heat from the ssd outwards towards the aluminum lid which has airflow going over it constantly as well.
I went with the 980 because it is intended to run without a heatsink (and advertises better thermals) where as the WD drive without a heatsink normally gets hot enough to thermal throttle. So the 980 plus a heatsink should be the safer route.
@@michaelmitchell922 Just over 5500mbs write speed the screen didn't show the read but it should be basically the same as the 850sn. Just installed and it's working great. Edit: sorry I guess that was the read. Guess it's not taking the full bandwidth.
I like how people make fun of Microsofts solution and saying it's expensive but some of these gen 4 nvme are way higher and Microsoft's way is just more convenient if I'm being honest.
I voted for MS way but that's because I'm lazy and a bit clueless with this stuff but it looks super easy, so now I'd prefer having the choice which MS doesn't provide
@@Dreadpirateflappy I'm not saying it's hard it's just less convenient and MS solution just plugs in and it's also an SSD still great loading times either way.
@@Dreadpirateflappy I would say the prices are about the same because to get a really good 1tb gen four nvme is about the same price if not more expensive. Especially if you want a good one with high read write speeds they go anywhere from 160-400 dollars depending on which brand you go with.
I appreciate the video as it helped out tons. Just bought a Fantom Drives 2TB SSD without a heatsink, so I had to buy a separate looks identical to the one you got. Quick and easy install.
I think it would be great to see if leaving the SSD slot cover off actually improves temperatures. I bought a heatsink that was too high to put the cover back on, so just left it off. I don’t believe that leaving the cover on actually reduces the temperature. Would be interesting to see solid data.
It wouldn't, the console uses negative pressure to keep the expansion bay cool, both the expansion bay cover and console side panel are needed for that to work.
@@williamjackson8782 I'd imagine they would make them out of a heatproof plastic, probably something similar to the fan the material, which was specifically designed to withstand high amounts of heat for extended periods of time. The materials definitely feel very similar (I've held both)
There are two vent holes inside the bay the fan sucks the heat out the bay using negative pressure you. Need the lid on for it to work this was straight from an interview with a Japanese engineer at Sony who helped build the console
Did the instructions say to put the NVME cover back on? Having a heat sink installed then having it starved of air circulation doesn't make sense to me.
i shouldnt need to do this id like to purchase a product that has enough storage to perform its primary purpose they knew the trend for how large installs were so they passed the cost on to the consumer.
Please do a video testing different ssd's with different heatsinks and also try one or two that are under-speced and see what happens. I would also love the temperatures to be shown both in Fahrenheit and Celsius. Thanks !
FYI: For those who is getting a heatsink separately to install onto your NVMe M.2 ssd, don’t buy the ones that come with a rubber band because 1.. they’re not good for heat dissipation and 2.. they’ll wear out really quick and snap inside the ssd bay. You’ve been warned! 🤷🏻♂️⚠️⚠️⚠️
Fyi, do not upgrade your ps5s ssd period right now. Don't do it. Don't recommend it.
It's bricking systems left and right. It's in beta. And Sony is not replacing consoles that brick. They are only liable AFTER the beta period is over.
@@user-ky9ou5dz9q well imma trust you
Rn I only have 800 gigs
How can I get more storage on my system because I’ve been looking for about an hour can’t find a solution
@@bubu9017 you can buy an external ssd for ps5 games you just can't play from that ssd.
We know, I already screwed mine together and installed it
@@bubu9017 there is no external options for storage for god knows what reason. But it's supposed to be "coming" but no eta.
Just wait a couple more months until the beta period ends. Then they can be liable if your system breaks.
Thanks. I used everything you did and my install was successful. The Samsung 980 ssd set me back $189 but it was worth it considering I didn’t know anything about installing a ssd
I’m getting the same one, but a 1tb version for $121 aud.
I'd really like to upgrade my PS5 with the still missing component, namely a PS5.
I get 1 every drop and resell it to idietz. U either dont have money or dont want it. Its not hard to get.
@@davidpelaez7176 stfu
@@davidpelaez7176 Ok kid
@@botyt209 you are the kid who cant turn up a stupid notification. Seriously people who say these consoles are hard to get are just dumb lol.
😂😂😂
WARNING: You need to isntall the cover back because it is designed to draw air from the bottom to cool. That is negative pressure cooling. You will drastically reduce the life of that SSD.
I know right. He completly skips over if he screwed his back in or left it off
@@tybdhnvynmnccvn No he said he put it back on 7:08
TY my one question answered
Your PS5 looks like it's wearing a tie.
PS5 getn ready for the camera.
lmao!
thought it was a diaper
Thanks. Now I can't unsee it. Lol.
That's a pretty sexy skin though.
Really want to say thanks for letting people know about what works and seeing it which really is awesome, I ordered heatsinks online and ssd at a local store for east pick up and I will be ready for when Sony allows all of us to upgrade but at least I have my stuff in advance before the demand goes into effect to avoid if a shortage occurs in ssd drives
Upgraded mine with a 2tb samsung 980 pro and it works flawlessly. Played cyberpunk, nioh2, ratchet and clank, returnal, demon souls, ghost of tsushima, judgement, etc all performed great.
how did you get a copy of lost judgement? it's not even out yet👀🤔
@@smgofdvld my bad it was judgement lol
as far as i know Lost Judgement launches End september. are you a Developer, a timetraveler or just a liar?
Edit: Or you have just misspelled something XD I'm sorry for that sassy comment
@@fuentesjuanjose90 oh lol thought you knew someone at Sega or something
Thanks man
Thanks for the video! I got in a Western Digital 2TB SN850X NVMe drive this week, along with a separate heat sink, and it was a piece of cake to install following your instructions. I didn't think it would be difficult, but it was still great to have everything laid out step by step. After formatting, the PS5 gave me a read speed of 6,534, which I'm really happy with. in
I love videos like this. Seeing different SSD's with heatsinks would be cool
Yes indubitably sir lol 🙌
I hope this is sarcasm....
Agreed
I just ordered a 2tb Samsung 980 pro!😁 I also got the heatsink for it. After tax and shipping I paid around 395.
@@dani_i8942 console users must be foreign to these ssd’s 😂
Thanks for this. Very helpful. It might be good to note that the washer goes under the SSD.
Dude great observation it makes sense to have th washer under the SSD I was kinda freaked out to see the SSD wiggle so much when inserted but now I feel more comfortable with the washer supporting the SSD. you are the man! Lol
Yeah. This actually wasn't that helpful IMO, sorry. Devil is in the details when explaining things to newbies, and he left out some very crucial details.
I just installed mine tonight using this video as my tutorial. When I had it all put back together and propped it up, I could hear rattling inside. I freaked out and took it apart again. Sure enough it was that washer moving around, I didn’t even notice it prior!
Should I apply the ssd right away or when I am out of storage?
Just did this. My ps5 had something jiggling inside. It was that washer, that I forgot. So i think its also there just to give a bit more airflow.
Sabrent actually made their heatsink in the way you described. You get a thermal pad to stick to the SDD and then the heatsink is literally a replacement of the cover you need to put back on. The reviews I've seen said it works really well. Plus you don't necessarily have to buy the Sabrent SSD as the cover they made is compatible with any M2 that fits [but hast to have no heat sink].
Do a video where you try one of the CHEAPEST SSDs that’s still to specs, but not as good as a more expensive one, and see how it compares to a better SSD
Yes. I’d like to know the cheapest options for 1 TB and 2 TB that work well.
Wow you are poor lol
Check out digital foundry they did a video on this already
@@combatgamer8542 poor yet has a ps5 unlike most people..👀🤷🏾♂️
@@combatgamer8542 - Believe it or not even wealthy people like to save money.
A better idea would be if Sony actually sold the M.2 drives for the PS5 so there would be less consumer confusion, like the Xbox Series X.
Work with the SSD makers to launch PS5 compatible ssds. Just like nintendo did with sandisk for the nintendo switch.
I haven't done any testing on this, but my understanding is that you don't need an extra heatsink for normal use. I use a Samsung 1tb 970 evo as the main storage for my PC with no extra heatsink attached to it without any problems. The stickers that come attached to the ssd by default are made of metal and act as mini heatsinks.
Pro tip: Anything under 140F (60c) is great for these SSDs. Over that and it will start to affect performance (and majorly reduce lifespan)
108F is only 42c which is fantastic temp especially for that warm room
Yes! Run tests without heatsink! This would reassure your viewers to make sure to have a heatsink.
You should definitely do another video where you test different SSD drives and heat sinks.
He's not made of money aha
He should now make a video on xbox ssd install
@@nickvarley8365 TH-cam takes care of him, he asked if we like to see it at the end of the video.
@@nickvarley8365 its his job...
@@xopasstheaux6617 you hit the side panel the panel drops off unscrew a screw put the ssd in screw in ssd screw in ssd door put side panel back on
Just a note for whomever reading, for some reason the 1TB and 2TB 980 Pro is only getting about 5500-5800MB/s, opposed to the 500GB model getting 6500MB/s. Nobody knows the reason why, it could be a firmware issue on the PS5, or the controller on the 1TB/2TB models not playing well with it.
Update Jan 10, 2022: This was fixed with a new Samsung firmware released in Nov. People are now getting 6500+
Fuck, I just got the 2TB.
@@damefame8921 Oh damn. It was 5 months ago on Beta firmware. I'm not sure if this was ever updated, or if the normal firmware is ok. Need to research about this
Appreciate the update 👍! Was worried for a minute
@@damefame8921 All good! Big $ purchase I know how it feels. Enjoy
Confirmed. Updating the SSD firmware unlocks full read/write speeds
Thanks for the vid, I got the 1tb SN850 and a heat sink to go with it coming tomorrow. I never felt like space was much of an issue anyway but this will be perfect for the rest of the gen.
Thanks for this vid, really concise and easy to follow. Installed the Western Digital SN850 NVMe SSD (with a standard cheapo aluminium heat sync) which read at just over 6500MB/s in the initial test, pushed a few games to it and works well so far!
How’s been? Still holding up?
good idea about testing ssd temps/speeds! we'd love to see that!! also to see what the best bang for your buck is!
After Sony enabled the SSD upgrade in the PlayStation 5, it was a matter of time before makers of actual drives announced SSDs optimized for the console. This week TeamGroup Japan unveiled its T-Force Cardea A440 Pro Special Series SSDs that are tailored specifically for PS5. In fact, these drives are the highest-performing SSDs that TeamGroup has introduced so far.
Overpriced junk.
"optimized for the console" what does that mean?
I would like to see a video where you test the temperature without a heatsink/ thermal pads.
Lol. I am not sure he would put his PS5 at risk like that! 😂
Digital foundry just released one yesterday
Indeed, in most cases SSDs don’t need any cooling solutions.
@@MegaFinalRound Clearly, you don't know what John is capable of, lol.
The thing people don’t understand. That 980 Pro had a “heat-sink” already. The sticker on the front already acts as a heatsink. It’s made of aluminum. So he put a heatsink on a heatsink.
Thank you for the instructions. I bought an SSD with the heatsink already included and it was recognised, formatted and moved some games without problem
Awesome ! Thanks for making this video, I've been trying to find an SSD with a heatsink but I think I'm gonna try to do third party heatsink just like you
You need to update the firmware version of the Samsung drive using the Samsung Magician software to unlock the full read/write speeds. After the firmware update the PS5 will give you a read speed of over 6500MB/s for the 980 Pro.
How did you do that update? Also, when your PS5 formats it wouldn't that update just get erased? I'm a noob this kinda stuff.
@@ItsNickYo303 You need to first install the Samsung 980 Pro in a PC temporarily and run Samsung Magician software to update its firmware. You may then remove it from the PC and install the SSD in the PS5. The updates firmware is permanently written to the SSD, so it won’t be overwritten by the PS5.
@@ItsNickYo303 I don't think firmware can be overwritten by the OS because the firmware is stored on a chip on the drive that isn't the same as the normal storage chips.
Damn, I believe Digital Foundry's test with the 980 pro's read speed came out to 6500!
Yeah it's a mixed bag with SSD's
Maybe the bigger the size the slower it is. DF was 500 GB.
No, they get faster as size goes up. It’s probably the testing methodology the ps5 uses.
@@bloomerb4162 the smaller drives are slower significantly. my 4TB sata SSD is more then DOUBLE the speed of my nvme pci-express 4.0 drive... because that drive is only 500GB. The more space headroom you give them, the faster the controller works. So that is why the larger sides are SO expensive. It's more then just the space difference.
@@Easelgames SATA’s third generation runs at 6Gb/s and has a bandwidth throughput of 600MB/s. A PCIe 3.0x2 connection can run just under 2GB/s, and x4 just under 4GB/s respectively. This puts NVMe drives at speeds upwards of 2000MB/s compared to your typical SATA III SSD running under 600MB/s.
I had never taken my PS5 apart before. Your video helped me 👍
I took out all the dust AND installed extra memory. Thanks!
Yup! Would love to see different let’s say extreme scenarios pushing the SSDs and seeing what speeds and temperatures they can push out.
I literally saw the thumbnail of the 980pro thought this said “Upgrading the PS3 with an SSD.” And was excited 😂 can’t wait to do this with my PS5 though! Just gonna wait until it’s not beta anymore. 😂
I had to marvel at how tiny those drives are when I got my first one.
I like how you don't need to remove the SSD that's built-in. I guess this is more of adding storage space than "upgrading"
Yes, this is awesome, ms should have done the same
@@GGaievski hahaha I've never owned an Xbox so I have no idea
@@GGaievski are you serious? Microsoft has one that you just put in a slot on the outside of the case. You can hot swap them. You don’t need to disassemble the console to put it in
@@Newnodrogbob yes, are you? the fact is that you can't use a standard ssd, instead you need to buy the seagate super overpriced one
@@GGaievski the OP was about how you don’t have to remove the built in SSD, so this is more adding than upgrading. You commented yeah; Microsoft should have done that.
Microsoft of course more than satisfied what the OP was praising. You don’t have to take out their SSD. You get additional storage.
What you are now telling me is that when you said “Microsoft should do this.” What you meant was something that was not mentioned either by the original post nor by you. Ok sure.
Do you have a series x or series s?
Watching your vids helped me secure my switch oled pre order. Now you’re saving me a ton on the ssd. Heat sink install is simple. Thank you!!
It's not rocket science.
This is literally easier than upgrading the mechanical hard drive on a PS3 or PS4.
Im interested in seeing how much airflow that little compartment for the ssd has.
Looks to be very little
@@Nonx47 That's by design, the console uses negative pressure to keep the expansion bay cool, both the expansion bay cover and console side panel are needed for that to work.
The console uses the large fan to create this negative pressure sucking the hot out, if it had anymore air flow the cooling solution would not work and temperatures would actually be worse. Did you see how fast the ssd temp was rising when he took the cover off?
@@chrismorrison5301 you can't suck the air out without airflow. The heat needs to literally be transferred to the air, then have the air moved out. That's how heat transfer works. If there was more airflow, it would cool better. That's a fact.
@@Nonx47 I never said it didn't have air flow. I literally said anymore and the negative pressure cooling wouldn't work.
I literally said "that's by design" in reply to you saying "looks to be very little". Very little is still air flow of sorts.
@@chrismorrison5301 yep. And I literally said more airflow would work better. High pressure doesn't equate to more airflow.
Ooh love these videos! Thanks for the thermal conductive pad recommendation for the Joy Con drift by the way.
Yea. My first time opening up joycon. I broke 2 of mine trying to fix it...they are so fragile. My other pair of joycon I repaired with no issue though
@@SgtGnome you are not alone my friend. I have messed up a lot of Joy Cons myself. I have spare parts and I by broken job lots to fix. It is good practice and I find them a lot easier to open up. The hardest part is the ribbon cable that connects to the rail; that thing is SO fragile!
Driftendo needs to fix there joy con drifting
@@AriesSpirit25 I am interested to see if the OLED Joy Cons will have the extra padding inside. I’ve ordered one so I might open them up and upload the video.
Thank you just got my samsung 980 and didn't know what to do never did anything like that and your video made it so simple!!!!
I have the 2tb 980 pro and my benchmark showed up under 5000MBs but still works exactly like the internal. Seeing widely varying numbers with this drive from other users. I wouldn't put much stock in how the PS5 benchmarks it.
The AMD SoC on the motherboard is most likely benchmarking the SSD as its formatting it which can impact numbers as it’s technically doing two things at once: Benchmarking and formatting.
goddamn that drive is as much as a digital PS5 LOL
I have the 2TB 980 Pro and the PS5 said mine is 5,800MB/s. I saw another video where someone got 5,300 MB/s. Not sure why the number varies
This is more helpful for people thinking about doing this than actually doing it.
Not sure I agree that it would have been a good idea for Sony to install a heatsink option on the M.2 cover. While there are standard form factors for the size of the M.2 drives, not every manufacturer sticks as close to those form factors as Samsung or other high quality brands. Letting the end user handle finding a heatsink option not only allows for those irregularities to be overcome, bit it's also cheaper for Sony, both in manufacturing and design costs. Also, as you mentioned, some drives come with heatsinks already attached, and those obviously wouldn't be usable if Sony preinstalled one.
Just read reviews
U don't need one to begin with
Would be like a repeat of the 9 or 11 mm disks.
@@lokilikesfrogs "you don't need one to begin with"
The ignorance of this is amazing... thermals of these SSD's when under full load is extremely high. Sony haven't said a heatsink is a minimum requirement for no reason.
70% of their end users are ignorant when it comes to these things.
I get the pros of why it's up to the consumer but that strategy itself comes with many cons
Fitted westerly Digital Black SN850 1 TB
With heat sink fitted getting 6999 Read
And 5299
Thanks to this video and comments regarding the fitting screw made it so easy
Runs like a dream
Can't wait
Thank you for the instructions! I finally took the plunge and installed a SN850X on my PS5.
Why are people suddenly complaining about how hard installing these SSD's are on the PS5 and that their poor grandmas won't be able to install these for them. It's literally easier upgrading these compared to last gen, it wasn't a problem before but suddenly now it's a problem?
I'm a fucking idiot and I'm pretty sure even I could figure out how to install one of these.
Thanks bro, i had this drive in my Amazon cart and was wondering about heatsinks. You're awesome
yeah, do without a heat sink and see if you can get it to throttle.
Whaaat
Yeah, I want to see how it fares without a heatsink tbh. Maybe with a throwaway SSD that just barely meets the requirements or something.
Digital foundry did that and there was a little delay and a tiny bit frame drops.
It's not about 1 second delay but the drive's health.
I thought performance would've been worse than that, doesn't seem too bad 😅
Just installed using this guide your simple instructions for how to get the top off especially was better then almost all the others I've read! Thanks Spawn
me:watching ok I'm gonna buy the wsd black ssd 1tb
amazone:delivery
me:thanks about to install the ssd
me: remember how I don't have a PS5 son of a
Now Samsung sells a 980 PRO with heatsing attached for easier install to the ps5, I just bought one.
Yeah, me too. Gonna pick it up today. How did the installation go for you?
you always make these look good and easy to follow 👍
Thx for the vid! Just installed mine after almost a month of having my new SSD drive. Waited for a while bc I was a bit uneasy about taking this apart, as simple as it was. I am just not good at this sort of thing. You made it easy. I enjoy your other vids too!
Simple, easy to follow, works great. Thank you! 😬
Thanks for the tutorial man! I was finally able to get my hands on a ps5 I’m gonna get it on Christmas but I already ordered my 980 pro and the same heat sink so I’m looking forward to it!
Nice upload. The only thing I would do different is to remove stickers from the drive before attaching thermal pads.
Doesn't that void the warranty?
@@Space__RoosterUnfortunately, probably.
Though, a sheet of paper wedged in between isn't very conductive.
Boot up your PS5 before you put it back together to verify it works properly OR load it into your PC and use a disk validation tool if you want to cover your hide.
@@noid5058 yeah I imagine paper more insulates heat rather then disperse it. Why do so many companies and stores have to put stickers or everything it's very annoying
@@noid5058 it's an aluminum sticker
I just ordered a 2tb Samsung 980 pro!😁 I also got the heatsink for it. After tax and shipping I paid around 395.
Been waiting for this one
Just installed my 2tb WD Sn850 Black with blue 3rd party heatsink, looks awesome
I foresee these drives coming down a lot in price over the next year. Most of the first party games are delayed until next year anyways. I can maybe see myself upgrading around next fall/holiday.
Same here. Plus I'd like to wait for more confirmed numbers on these drives as to how the major brands perform.
Someone above mentioned a 2tb 980 pro and it's running a 500 slower than Johns smaller 980.
I'm hoping the WD 2tb heat sink model tests well. That's what I'm personally leaning towards.
This is natural among electronics, which is why I love that Sony went this way. This is also great for PC users, as these drives will come down in prices.
@@TigonIII yea, last year I bought just a 256 GB nvme for my PC just for my operating systems. If they weren't so damn expensive, I would have gotten a much bigger one so I can put a few of those fast loading next gen games on it too.
They're getting a lot cheaper now 👍
I really like the design of the faceplates for easy dust removal, simple but great design in my opinion
I appreciate this especially after today’s update which this becomes fully usable! I’ve been waiting to do this!
667.
It might have been worth mentioning the compression tech used in the PS5 which makes games smaller than the competition and causes you to be able to fit more games on the PS5 in comparison.
Because if this I doubt I will be getting an ssd anytime soon.
If you noticed the ssd getting hotter pretty fast with the cover removed, that's because the system uses negative pressure to keep the ssd bay cool and you need the ssd cover and the console side panel on for that to work.
I was wondering if that was important to keep that on 🤔 I was thinking it would keep it cooler with the cover off so thanks for clarifying and saving me from myself
@@Space__Rooster That's alright, I thought the same thing not long ago as it is the logical conclusion.
I watched a video that tested a 980 pro without a heat sink, with a small one (cheap, £10/$15) and with one so large (not as cheap £20/$25) you couldn't put the cover on, the conclusion was you need a heat sink (it worked without but it was a lot hotter, would cause deterioration over time) and the results of the small heat sink + cover and large heatsink without the cover where practically the same.
This is due to the negative pressure cooling being in affect for the small one but not the large one, so a small cheap heatsink will be more than enough with the cover on.
But avoid ones that use rubber bands, those are shit lol.
Nice video! ive been waiting for you to drop a video like this, now time to install my samsung 980 pro! Thanks Spawn wave!
Yes please do another video comparing other SSDs with and w/o heat sinks! Maybe even try different storage sizes because some companies will give the less space a lower rated speed. I know that these SSDs can get expensive, but just a few ideas!
Finally got a 2TB NVME for Black Friday 2023, install was super easy. Thanks for the video even though it’s a year later.
Which one did you get and did it come with a heatsink? I just got the same one he got but 2TB. I'm not sure whether I need a heatsink or not on mine??
@@jessa.3857 I got the 980 pro with the heat sink, it should say on the box if it has a heat sink or not
@@Doctor_Horrible759 yeah, i just realized I bought the wrong one. I'm returning it and getting the one with heatsink. Thanks for your response!
Definitely need to see more of these tests please! Interested to see how different ones compare
What's with the dislikes, cmon guys it's not Spawnwave's fault PS5's aren't in stock
What if you just don't put the metal lid and just use a bigger heatsink?
Or it could get better airflow
Yes I’d love to see a comparison.
The console uses negative pressure to keep the ssd cool, the expansion bay cover and side panel are both needed for that to work.
Without one or both the ssd would get hotter.
@@chrismorrison5301 i don't think the ssd bay cover is pressurized.
@@victorscarpes it doesn't need to be for the amount of pressure needed for the cooling method to work.
The pressure change isn't that far different from the room it's in, but it's enough to suck out all the hot air from the bay
Thanks man, was having an issue taking off the panel until I watched this.
Sony dimension thing doesn't seem like much of a issue.. worse case you dont screw back on the plate
Now that I have the PS5 console and the games, I'll just install the m.2 internal SSD drive with heatsink into the PS5 console expansion slot. Thanks for letting me know.
So, everyone outside the US just had to Google how much 108F is in a normal temperature rating. :-D
For those who are interested, it's around 41C°.
Thank you, seriously thank you. I was so anxious and worried that I’d screw it up. You made it really easy to follow.
I'm very curious how these SSD's are gonna hold up in 5years.
I can see alot of heating issues popping up in older models (these ones) when the PS5 slim is eventually released to improve on the desighn.
Wow heating issues ? 😂😂😂😂😂
Hopefully by the time the PS5 Slim is released they have more onboard storage
@@KatanaRikku the slim will most likely be digital only
Thanks so much for this video. Got the WD SN850 with heat sink and installed it with ease using this guide. 😊
Wouldn't you get better Temps if you had the bay cover off and just had the ssd open to get some of the fans air circulation?
Nothing would be a replacement for an actual heatsink.
But in sure it would have *some* effect.
These name drives get quite warm, though. And lower temps will kill them than something like a CPU or GPU.
Just ordered one, the first heat sink ( the one you used) was sold out so I went with your second recommendation. Here we go!
I'd be interested to know, if the OEM ssd fails, could you install the PS OS on one of these added internal ssds and run the system off that, so you're not left with a paperweight.
If you’ve ever upgraded the HDD in a ps4, it’s the same exact steps. Download the software from Sony’s site onto a usb drive and pop that into your ps5 after you’ve installed your new SSD.
@@SmokeyHavoc Is that confirmed or just a guess? because that would assume the system will just happily bypass and ignore the existence of the broken OEM SSD thats soldered to the board.
@@Bodom1after1midnight yeah I had no idea when I posted my comment that the ps5 has its very own internal ssd on the motherboard lmao. I assumed you just switched them out like on the ps4. I’d assume if the internal ssd takes a shit, you’d have to send it to Sony to be repaired or replaced.
I just a 2TB SSD drive and this video helped out a lot. Although it's weird seeing Jon with glasses on lol
But a flat $220 to officially expand the Xbox Series consoles at launch was ridiculous, right? While I can totally agree that this is a simple procedure, I've got what they call "Buzzard Luck". I'm just going to wait a few months and listen to other peoples experiences until I hear about more clear cut winners.
There is a lot of misinformation on the airflow of that compartment it has two small hole in the bay and the lid needs to be on as the fan uses negative pressure to suck heat out of the compartment this was from an interview with a Japanese engineer at Sony who helped build the console leave the lid on its there for a reason
Would leaving off that top cover for the NVME make it cooler, seems like it would trap a lot of heat under it. Could you test that?
Thats exactly what i thought, too. Unless there is some air current going through that NVME tunnel, it should be better to leave the top cover off.
Leave it on the bay uses negative pressure so the fan can suck the heat out this was straight from mr Otori a Japanese engineer at Sony who helped build the console
Good to know. I figured the panel was just for RF shielding. Which the heatsink would replace function of anyway.
Thank you for this video, I'm deployed right now and the wife got me A PS5 so this was so helpful. And I will subscribe
I'd like to see a video where you test to see what happens when you put in an SSD that is slower than Sony's recommended speed
It's just slower. You can use them, but you're not getting Sony standards.
small tip do not get a heat sink with rubberband in the long term most of them loosen up and degrade. get it with metal clamps or screws
Would it better a little better for airflow or thermals if you didn’t install the little metal door back onto the PS5?
No, the console uses negative pressure to keep the expansion bay cool, both the expansion bay cover and console side panel are needed for that to work.
If you're gonna upgrade why bother with 1tb when the ps4 pro wasn't enough with 1tb?
A true gamer had to have minimum 4tb on their ps4.
I have a 4tb internal and 8tb external on my ps4 pro. The 8tb is already filled up and thw 4tb internal is already being utilized.
I haven't upgraded my ps5 yet, but when I do I am not wasting my time with 1tb, but your video is helpful for those who wanna learn to do it. Thanks for the instructions! 💪🏽
Silly question: Would you have to reinstall the cover over the SSD or could you leave it open for better airflow?
Leaving it open will probably worsen the airflow, there are two small holes further down in the slot and an opening for the fan to ”pull” air out
Things are engineered a certain way for a reason, if Sony reccomends the cover on, leave it on. Theirs holes on the side for airflow from the fan
@@skit_data6320 perfect thanks for the response!
@@mog_3825 thanks for that!
@@msg4672 Also on things like this. The aluminum heatsink will just disperse heat from the ssd outwards towards the aluminum lid which has airflow going over it constantly as well.
I went with the 980 because it is intended to run without a heatsink (and advertises better thermals) where as the WD drive without a heatsink normally gets hot enough to thermal throttle.
So the 980 plus a heatsink should be the safer route.
What was the read speed?
@@michaelmitchell922 Just over 5500mbs write speed the screen didn't show the read but it should be basically the same as the 850sn. Just installed and it's working great.
Edit: sorry I guess that was the read. Guess it's not taking the full bandwidth.
I guess that Xbox expansion SSD card isn’t so expensive now
We love videos like this, i learn more when you make videos like t this. Definitely we need to see more differents drives and temperatures
I like how people make fun of Microsofts solution and saying it's expensive but some of these gen 4 nvme are way higher and Microsoft's way is just more convenient if I'm being honest.
This is about Sony
I voted for MS way but that's because I'm lazy and a bit clueless with this stuff but it looks super easy, so now I'd prefer having the choice which MS doesn't provide
It's more expensive and a slower solution.
Takes minutes to install these, hardly hard.
@@Dreadpirateflappy I'm not saying it's hard it's just less convenient and MS solution just plugs in and it's also an SSD still great loading times either way.
@@Dreadpirateflappy I would say the prices are about the same because to get a really good 1tb gen four nvme is about the same price if not more expensive. Especially if you want a good one with high read write speeds they go anywhere from 160-400 dollars depending on which brand you go with.
In fact, the thickness doesn’t matter, you don’t need to put the lid back, so that the ssd cooling fin has a better heat dissipation effect.
Having a thermally conductive path to more metal is better than relying on convection.
It seems only content creators got the priviledge of this beta, this type of shit should've been open to the public day 1
I appreciate the video as it helped out tons. Just bought a Fantom Drives 2TB SSD without a heatsink, so I had to buy a separate looks identical to the one you got. Quick and easy install.
I think it would be great to see if leaving the SSD slot cover off actually improves temperatures. I bought a heatsink that was too high to put the cover back on, so just left it off. I don’t believe that leaving the cover on actually reduces the temperature. Would be interesting to see solid data.
It wouldn't, the console uses negative pressure to keep the expansion bay cool, both the expansion bay cover and console side panel are needed for that to work.
I’d imagine there’s a chance that over time the heat would warp the plastic on your face plate.
@@williamjackson8782 I'd imagine they would make them out of a heatproof plastic, probably something similar to the fan the material, which was specifically designed to withstand high amounts of heat for extended periods of time.
The materials definitely feel very similar (I've held both)
Just installed a WD850. Thanks for the guide.
wouldn`t it be better leaving the cover plate off, so the ssd heatsink gets some air from the fan?
they claimed this creates positive pressure meaning dust will collect faster then intended
There are two vent holes inside the bay the fan sucks the heat out the bay using negative pressure you. Need the lid on for it to work this was straight from an interview with a Japanese engineer at Sony who helped build the console
Thx hottie. You make it seem easy enough that even I could put mine in. Lol. I’m not too technical, just love playing games. Awesome bro. Thx again.
Did the instructions say to put the NVME cover back on? Having a heat sink installed then having it starved of air circulation doesn't make sense to me.
It's designed to circulate air through it with the NVMW cover and Ps5 lid on. There's holes all on the sides of the nvme
Thank you ! With the update out today, I just ordered your suggested!
i shouldnt need to do this
id like to purchase a product that has enough storage to perform its primary purpose
they knew the trend for how large installs were so they passed the cost on to the consumer.
Please do a video testing different ssd's with different heatsinks and also try one or two that are under-speced and see what happens. I would also love the temperatures to be shown both in Fahrenheit and Celsius. Thanks !