This trend of calling Adventure games overrated is kinda sad to me and I'm really glad you addressed the main point everybody's missing: it's an old game. A year older than me actually
The main thing everyone is missing is, is that the main way to play Sonic Adventure nowadays is through Sonic Adventure DX Director’s Cut, a terrible remaster. The game was made for the Dreamcast and it plays the best there. Not many people can play it that way so people judge the game through DX, a game with worse visuals and a lot more bugs.
This is still one of my favorite games of all time, because of the memories of playing it with my little brother on the Dreamcast, the awesome OST, the ability to play multiple characters, and the neat lore. I love it. It’s showing its age now, yeah, but it’s a guilty pleasure of mine.
I'm glad to hear some defense of this game. I hear a lot of negatives, I haven't played it myself so I'll be looking forward to the "best way to play" video.
I think the reason both adventure games are so loud has to do with the dreamcast hardware. It had a special dsp audio chip the would automatically balance out louder sound (or something like that do your own research) so when played on original hardware theoretically it should sound fine, but later releases never fixed this for normal audio chips, leading to music in cutscenes often being way too loud.
Is that why I don't remember SA1's music being too loud? Because I always played it on my DC? I'm sure the mixing in SA2 was always not great in the cutscenes though, even on DC
@@joshuasanderson7359 It was better on the DC, but the voices cutting each other out is a problem only the English dub has. The original Japanese really didn't have that issue. I highly recommend checking out the Japanese versions of the 3D Sonic games with the retranslated English subs. Not only are the scripts much better written (even in the Meta Era games) but the acting is genuinely top-tier.
Yeah, I always thought the criticism this game received was a little odd. Like, it's always talked about in comparison to newer games, which is doing it an injustice at best, and discrediting it's ingenuity at worst. a banger first video, and a solid review! watched the whole thing! 🎉😎
This is probably my favorite Sonic game. Even the “bad” parts are bad in such a charming way, and now that I’ve played the game enough Big’s campaign is a cakewalk. Also thank god someone finally put the Chao Garden in it’s place, I have never liked it and yet it seems so so many people think it’s as good if not better than the main game.
This game blew my mind when I first played this on my friend's Dreamcast. I actually enjoyed how you can use the spin dash in mid run to boost forward; it felt fluid and like a standing-version of the drop dash. I'm glad you also enjoyed this game like I do.
The fact that SA1 and SA2 haven't been remastered for modern consoles (especially Switch) is criminal, they should use Sonics current momentum to make a better version of Origins but with the 3D classics instead (maybe even including Heroes). I replay the levels on Steam all the time but I'd 100% buy a remastered version to take on the go without having to buy a Steam Deck or portable PC just for that.
@@macuser7048 I mean yeah, but those aren’t modern consoles by todays standard, and Steam doesn’t really represent the majority of gamers. Plus, most times it’s been the semi-broken DX version. When I say modern, I mean right now, I mean current gen (PS4/5, XboxOne/S/X, and specially Switch).
SA1's dub is definitely better than most of its contemporaries but it pales in comparison to the original Japanese version, which had much better scriptwriting and top-tier professional anime-style acting courtesy of an all-star seiyuu cast. Honestly, that's how it goes for 3D Sonic games in general. Even Sonic '06 and the Meta Era games are halfway decent in Japanese thanks to the vastly superior scripts and acting (Silver the Hedgehog is played by Daisuke Ono, for starters). Seriously, I highly recommend checking out the Japanese versions with retranslated subs to accurately match the original dialogue. You'll be amazed at not just how much better it all is, but also how much was changed in translation. The SA1 dub, for example, changed entire lines of dialogue, to the point where whole plot beats can feel different. SA2 is much the same.
I think if they make a Sonic Frontiers 2 or what have you, I think if they model it more after the exploration that Frontiers has, but also finding true, honest levels like Adventures, instead of bite levels, I think that they could finally have that great combination of Sonic and RPG that they have been trying to pull off for a few years.
Not sure if you know this, but in the Sky Chase levels you can hold the shoot button to lock onto enemies and get really large chains. It doesn't really add THAT much to the gameplay, but just figured I'd point it out since I didn't see you use it in your footage and it seemed that was the only thing you didn't enjoy in Sonic and Tails' stories
I don't mean to sound condescending at all, but are you perhaps unaware that you can hold the fire button to lock onto numerous enemies in the Sky Chase acts? I find that it adds a bit of flare to those sections. Not only that, but I challenge myself to beat my high score on them. :)
@@spontman It's basically like Gamma's lock-on. Just hold the button and aim the reticle at the enemies. Then let go. I only found this out recently myself. Seems obvious in hindsight, but the game doesn't really explain it all too well. Also, the beeping can be quite obnoxious. Especially if you're going for the extra emblems.
I grew up playing 2 a lot and just played 1 a couple years ago. WOW. Talk about a game I had nostalgia for and I didn’t even grow up playing it. I prefer it to 2 and that’s saying a lot. SA has such a charm to it that idk if any other Sonic game really has. The replay value is great as well imo.
I think people are most impressed not by the gameplay of the Chao Garden, but the fact that it even exists and is incredibly fleshed out (at least in SA2).
Sonic on the GameCube was my sincere intro to sonic and its still 1 of my fav sonic games ever ❤....but sonic adventure 2 done everything this 1 done and much better...2 would forever hold a special place in my heart
Good video! Way more understanding of the time the game came out in than most other reviews. That said, I do enjoy Knuckles and Amy stages quite a bit and I find Knuckles stages to be similar to the level design of CD/3&K. Also, the reason why Froggy went mad is because the tail of Chaos posssesed him. That said, I was personally disappointed by the Perfect Chaos battle a bit due to how much difficulty it lacks. Egg Viper is better imo.
I grew up with sonic adventure 2 but if I had the chance to play SA1 I would've been mind blown..my most prolific gaming memory was exploring hub worlds in 3D games like super Mario 64 as a kid. The hub worlds may be underwhelming in SA1 but for the time these hub worlds amazed me and sometimes I was just happy running back and forth in them. As an adult they serve as a nice transitional space but nothin encapsulates the feeling of playing these games for the first time especially as a kid.
What I would do for a super touched up sonic adventure physics engine, as much as I liked frontiers I was incredibly disappointed that I couldn’t run on the side of walls unless they were marked as such.
@@macuser7048 I disagree, because Sonic can't just magnetize to walls in Adventure. He needs enough momentum, and if he loses that momentum, he falls off. Unfortunately the movement engine for Forces/Frontiers doesn't seem to be equipped for those kinds of physics whatsoever.
@@spontman totally. Frontiers doesn't have that. I'm just saying to make up for it not having those physics and it would allow you to run up more metallic surfaces as opposed to just those tracks in Frontiers. I'd love for Frontiers to be more like the Adventure games. The SOAPs in Frontiers are purely aesthetic, but they were cool.
Common criticism: The voice acting and animations are so awkward! SA1: *Came out in a time when Metal Gear Solid was like, the 2% of games with good, constant English voice acting and 3D animation on a larger scope. And arguably only because that game was ahead of its time. Suffice to say, I don’t find that criticism very fair.
4:10 the sound mixing is actually a problem that got carried with the gamecube / pc port. The dreamcast had a sound compressor that lowers some sound effects and music when they are to loud and the developers worked arround that. the original dc version is actually smooth. Sa2 port have the same problem
Funny you should say that, Someone made a mod for SA2 that lets you bring your chao into action stages, and it will do different things depending on the stats
I played the Dreamcast original back then but barely. It was at a kiosk. I did eventually nab my own copy of the Dreamcast version just before COVID along with SA2. But back then the only way I was able to play it was on GameCube. SA2 however was on a burned CD my cousin made for Dreamcast but had no VMUs for it. Again, GameCube comes in to save the day. I had my own memory card for GameCube and my own copies of SA 1 and 2. I didn't mind the small differences. The complaints about the visual glitches are understandable but I never understood the ones about the audio. I never had a hard time hearing characters and I thought lines overlapping made them sound more realistic like they were having an argument or correcting one another. I will admit Dreamcast versions are prettier. Since my GameCube stopped working and I've since traded it in, Dreamcast is my go-to version. My Dreamcast can play burned CDs too so it's all good. I've tried all kinds of games on it I've never even heard of.
Hey, I don't remember if it's in this video or another, but could you tell me what sound effect you use for the "DAB" gags? Namely Knuckles and Eggman in separate videos.
I think it's a song from Cyberpunk, but I just got the audio from this video (it has a lot of explicit language just fyi lol): th-cam.com/video/NYnRKOKm28A/w-d-xo.html
I think I’ll install Redream, my favorite Dreamcast emulator, on my Steam Deck when it arrives and I’ll play through the Sonic Adventure titles. Yes, I know there’s the DC conversion mod for SA1 on Steam, but I want to avoid fiddling with mods on the Steam Deck, if possible. As for SA2, the Dreamcast version is just straight up better in every way and as far as I’m aware, there’s no DC conversion mod for the Steam version.
The character stories evolving and all the worldbuilding in the hub worlds are a result of the game being developed as an RPG first. This is the same deal with Shenmue starting off as a Virtua Fighter RPG.
Like the video, but one thing I have issue with is saying that most people played Sonic Adventure on Dreamcast rather than DX on GameCube. For Sonic Adventure 2 and the Battle port, I agree with that, but for Adventure 1, the Dreamcast version was the highest selling Dreamcast game with over 2.5 million copies sold. Maybe more people have the HD Xbox 360/PlayStation3/PC version then the Dreamcast version, but the GameCube version, defiantly not.
Dude you have a lock on mechanic that shoot torpedos on the airplane levels don’t tell me u your just taping the button u only get those weak shots like that your suppose to hold and lock on and then release like on Gammas levels
One thing I find interesting about sonic adventure is that I don’t think the story is what actually happens in the game… kinda. There’s a cutscene where Sonic and tails run into knuckles for the first time in the story. The dialogue is different depending on which character you are playing as. As Sonic tails says practically nothing at all during this cutscene and Knuckles seems confused and unwilling to listen to reason when Sonic tries to explain he’s not trying to steal the master emerald, then Sonic says fuck it and they fight. Tails: Sonic can do no wrong and doesn’t at all try to pick a fight with knuckles when he realizes one is going to happen anyway, tails has more dialogue and it’s relevant, and knuckles is more aggressive than he is in sonics version of the scene. Knuckles: tails again is irrelevant for the most part, but Sonic is more aggressive in the cutscene and doesn’t bother trying to explain that he’s not trying to steal the master emerald and just starts a fight. Something along those lines… Anyway it comes off as if what you’re seeing in the game is not what actually happened in the story but rather the character you are playing as is telling you their version of events and that’s what you’re playing. So in that scene tails may or may not have actually said what he says in his version of the story but Sonic and Knuckles aren’t going to notice or care about what tails had to say as much as each other. And Knuckles is either lying through his teeth to save face and not look like an idiot by portraying Sonic as more aggressive while Sonic I think is just saying what he remembers and noticed: that knuckles was confused, he tried to explain to knuckles what’s going on, knuckles started a fight anyway and he kicked his ass. But knuckles is going to pretend he won that fight. Also they probably all fought Chaos 4 afterwards at the same time, but tails claims he did it by himself, while Sonic claims him and tails did it together and knuckles claims he did it by himself. I find it interesting that they put the effort into making the cutscenes different depending on which character you’re playing as as if they’re telling their version of the story when very few people even notice this.
The reason why audio mixing is so weird is that the console the game was originally created for has a built-in sound compression system or smth like that, so they didn't worry about making some sounds too lout
Graphically, the lighting in this game always popped out to me. Maybe not groundbreaking by today's standards, but they were definitely above average for the time. I always thought the levels looked beautiful with how they're illuminated and colored, and it was really cool how the character models would react to the lighting. The darker portions of this game especially like the Casinopolis sewers really knew how to sell that dingy atmosphere through sparse lighting and fog effects.
Honestly I can't take seriously complaints about Big's controls. If I was able to do it with no problem as a 7 y.o. there's nothing too hard about it, but it's obviously not something you want in Sonic games anyway
Both the virtual pet mini game and the main game are great. I hate how people cherry pick and only say parts of it are good. Both Adventures are solid and full of good content.
This will forever be my favorite Sonic Game and I always go for the main game and ignore the Chao Garden outright. SA 2 was a massive downgrade to the first game in my opinion with the Story and Music (Minus the Treasure Hunting stages) being the best things about this game, the Speed characters aren't as fun to control, the Mech Stages are the only ones that feels as great as Gamma's gameplay. And DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE TREASURE HUNTING STAGES. THEY MAKE BIG THE CAT'S STORY LOOK LIKE SONIC'S STORY IN SA1.
@@spontman well that only applies to his physical appearance and not his ability, flying, which is the point you were making in the video about knuckles.
Adventure is Still the best Sonic game (DC version or PC with DC Mods not the DX crappy ports) Frontiers is Ok but it’s too easy and not enough new ideas if u ask me
If people can sit there and still praise SM64 and OOT but at the same time criticize SA1 and SA2, then those people are idiots. SA1 aged way better than those games and it’s not even close. The Adventure games are still GOATED.
It really sucks that I only consider about half of this game to be really good (that being Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles). I don't care for Amy's campaign, Gamma's alright I guess but nothing too special, and Big the Cat just doesn't belong in a Sonic game in this fashion.
Sonic got most of the cutscenes due to having the longest campaign. Big seems to be more of an afterthought since his is the shortest and is outright pointless. Amy and E-102 both connected. Tails had his own story despite having the same stages as Sonic. I don't hate all the cutscenes, but man BIg The Cat's is dumb. lol
Knuckles got cut short due to him not knowing anything about his history. I wanted to see proper interaction between Knuckles and Tikal. Instead Knuckles is like, I don't know and I don't care to know. o.o
It’s such a terrible game I don’t care that it came out in 1998 it’s still shit. But goddamn I fucking love it so much, I got DX for my birthday in 2003 and I still go back and play it every year on my birthday with my brother, it just doesn’t get old to me, and it probably never will.
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This trend of calling Adventure games overrated is kinda sad to me and I'm really glad you addressed the main point everybody's missing: it's an old game. A year older than me actually
The main thing everyone is missing is, is that the main way to play Sonic Adventure nowadays is through Sonic Adventure DX Director’s Cut, a terrible remaster. The game was made for the Dreamcast and it plays the best there. Not many people can play it that way so people judge the game through DX, a game with worse visuals and a lot more bugs.
I love this game for the fact that I can play as Amy alone, I love her. She's adorable
That hammer rules!
@@macuser7048 yes
I need amy
Amy is the worst character to play as, tied with Big.
Same >w
This is still one of my favorite games of all time, because of the memories of playing it with my little brother on the Dreamcast, the awesome OST, the ability to play multiple characters, and the neat lore. I love it. It’s showing its age now, yeah, but it’s a guilty pleasure of mine.
SA is also one of my favorite games of all time
I'm glad to hear some defense of this game. I hear a lot of negatives, I haven't played it myself so I'll be looking forward to the "best way to play" video.
I think the reason both adventure games are so loud has to do with the dreamcast hardware. It had a special dsp audio chip the would automatically balance out louder sound (or something like that do your own research) so when played on original hardware theoretically it should sound fine, but later releases never fixed this for normal audio chips, leading to music in cutscenes often being way too loud.
Is that why I don't remember SA1's music being too loud? Because I always played it on my DC? I'm sure the mixing in SA2 was always not great in the cutscenes though, even on DC
@@joshuasanderson7359 It was better on the DC, but the voices cutting each other out is a problem only the English dub has. The original Japanese really didn't have that issue. I highly recommend checking out the Japanese versions of the 3D Sonic games with the retranslated English subs. Not only are the scripts much better written (even in the Meta Era games) but the acting is genuinely top-tier.
I like it loud though. Best music ever.
@@KingdomHeartsBrawler honestly i like the line overlapping. maybe its the nostalgia goggles but it had a sort conciseness to it i enjoy
4:36 THANK GOD, I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE LMFAO
Yeah, I always thought the criticism this game received was a little odd.
Like, it's always talked about in comparison to newer games, which is doing it an injustice at best, and discrediting it's ingenuity at worst.
a banger first video, and a solid review! watched the whole thing! 🎉😎
Never played this game, but you presented it well! Nicely done!
It’s available on the Xbox One for $19.99 and tax.
@@myleswelnetz6700 DLC is like 5 bucks.
@Mac User
I just mean the main game.
This is probably my favorite Sonic game. Even the “bad” parts are bad in such a charming way, and now that I’ve played the game enough Big’s campaign is a cakewalk. Also thank god someone finally put the Chao Garden in it’s place, I have never liked it and yet it seems so so many people think it’s as good if not better than the main game.
Never really tried the chao garden, it's just too much grind, but maybe next time I'll actually go for it
This game blew my mind when I first played this on my friend's Dreamcast. I actually enjoyed how you can use the spin dash in mid run to boost forward; it felt fluid and like a standing-version of the drop dash. I'm glad you also enjoyed this game like I do.
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The fact that SA1 and SA2 haven't been remastered for modern consoles (especially Switch) is criminal, they should use Sonics current momentum to make a better version of Origins but with the 3D classics instead (maybe even including Heroes). I replay the levels on Steam all the time but I'd 100% buy a remastered version to take on the go without having to buy a Steam Deck or portable PC just for that.
They brought it back for GameCube, then for PS3 and XBOX 360. Then for Steam. 360 even got the Dreamcast Collection.
Speaking of which, more people need to play JSR and JSRF
@@macuser7048 I mean yeah, but those aren’t modern consoles by todays standard, and Steam doesn’t really represent the majority of gamers. Plus, most times it’s been the semi-broken DX version. When I say modern, I mean right now, I mean current gen (PS4/5, XboxOne/S/X, and specially Switch).
@@mkzrv But Steam has MODS. :D
Found this by chance but your videos are well done, you deserve more subs
A good voice is also a helpful thing that you've got going :D
SA1's dub is definitely better than most of its contemporaries but it pales in comparison to the original Japanese version, which had much better scriptwriting and top-tier professional anime-style acting courtesy of an all-star seiyuu cast. Honestly, that's how it goes for 3D Sonic games in general. Even Sonic '06 and the Meta Era games are halfway decent in Japanese thanks to the vastly superior scripts and acting (Silver the Hedgehog is played by Daisuke Ono, for starters). Seriously, I highly recommend checking out the Japanese versions with retranslated subs to accurately match the original dialogue. You'll be amazed at not just how much better it all is, but also how much was changed in translation. The SA1 dub, for example, changed entire lines of dialogue, to the point where whole plot beats can feel different. SA2 is much the same.
Both are pretty shonen. :D
I think if they make a Sonic Frontiers 2 or what have you, I think if they model it more after the exploration that Frontiers has, but also finding true, honest levels like Adventures, instead of bite levels, I think that they could finally have that great combination of Sonic and RPG that they have been trying to pull off for a few years.
Not sure if you know this, but in the Sky Chase levels you can hold the shoot button to lock onto enemies and get really large chains. It doesn't really add THAT much to the gameplay, but just figured I'd point it out since I didn't see you use it in your footage and it seemed that was the only thing you didn't enjoy in Sonic and Tails' stories
I might be the only one to think this, but does anyone else find the cutscenes unironically kind of charming?
I don't mean to sound condescending at all, but are you perhaps unaware that you can hold the fire button to lock onto numerous enemies in the Sky Chase acts? I find that it adds a bit of flare to those sections. Not only that, but I challenge myself to beat my high score on them. :)
Wait WHAT???
@@spontman It's basically like Gamma's lock-on. Just hold the button and aim the reticle at the enemies. Then let go. I only found this out recently myself. Seems obvious in hindsight, but the game doesn't really explain it all too well. Also, the beeping can be quite obnoxious. Especially if you're going for the extra emblems.
@@spontman Yeah, that's what the targeting reticle is for.
I grew up playing 2 a lot and just played 1 a couple years ago. WOW. Talk about a game I had nostalgia for and I didn’t even grow up playing it. I prefer it to 2 and that’s saying a lot. SA has such a charm to it that idk if any other Sonic game really has. The replay value is great as well imo.
4:32 FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE IGNORING ACTUAL GAMEPLAY FOR SOME STUPID VIRTUAL PET SIM
I think people are most impressed not by the gameplay of the Chao Garden, but the fact that it even exists and is incredibly fleshed out (at least in SA2).
Sonic’s first 3d game, was actually Sonic The Fighters from 1995 or 96.
Sonic jam was also before adventure, the 3D version i mean
Yep
That means Sonic had an objectively PEAK transition into 3d
Finally, a channel with mature and respectful opinions about my favorite character. Subscribed! Awesome video!
Sonic on the GameCube was my sincere intro to sonic and its still 1 of my fav sonic games ever ❤....but sonic adventure 2 done everything this 1 done and much better...2 would forever hold a special place in my heart
Good video! Way more understanding of the time the game came out in than most other reviews. That said, I do enjoy Knuckles and Amy stages quite a bit and I find Knuckles stages to be similar to the level design of CD/3&K.
Also, the reason why Froggy went mad is because the tail of Chaos posssesed him. That said, I was personally disappointed by the Perfect Chaos battle a bit due to how much difficulty it lacks. Egg Viper is better imo.
Solid review now i just need to play the game whenever i can remember i own it!
lol
Underrated channel Ngl keep doin the good work
I’d love to play this game again if Sony didn’t take it off play station now when it merged with play station plus
I grew up with sonic adventure 2 but if I had the chance to play SA1 I would've been mind blown..my most prolific gaming memory was exploring hub worlds in 3D games like super Mario 64 as a kid.
The hub worlds may be underwhelming in SA1 but for the time these hub worlds amazed me and sometimes I was just happy running back and forth in them. As an adult they serve as a nice transitional space but nothin encapsulates the feeling of playing these games for the first time especially as a kid.
Love big the cat could be optional though
What I would do for a super touched up sonic adventure physics engine, as much as I liked frontiers I was incredibly disappointed that I couldn’t run on the side of walls unless they were marked as such.
YES, Sonic Frontiers really missed an opportunity there.
A magnetic shoe upgrade would have made it like the Adventure games.
@@macuser7048 I disagree, because Sonic can't just magnetize to walls in Adventure. He needs enough momentum, and if he loses that momentum, he falls off. Unfortunately the movement engine for Forces/Frontiers doesn't seem to be equipped for those kinds of physics whatsoever.
@@spontman totally. Frontiers doesn't have that. I'm just saying to make up for it not having those physics and it would allow you to run up more metallic surfaces as opposed to just those tracks in Frontiers. I'd love for Frontiers to be more like the Adventure games. The SOAPs in Frontiers are purely aesthetic, but they were cool.
Common criticism: The voice acting and animations are so awkward!
SA1: *Came out in a time when Metal Gear Solid was like, the 2% of games with good, constant English voice acting and 3D animation on a larger scope. And arguably only because that game was ahead of its time.
Suffice to say, I don’t find that criticism very fair.
4:10 the sound mixing is actually a problem that got carried with the gamecube / pc port. The dreamcast had a sound compressor that lowers some sound effects and music when they are to loud and the developers worked arround that. the original dc version is actually smooth. Sa2 port have the same problem
4:38
I don't see what's so great about the Chao, they don't even help us in any meaningful way
Funny you should say that, Someone made a mod for SA2 that lets you bring your chao into action stages, and it will do different things depending on the stats
I played the Dreamcast original back then but barely. It was at a kiosk. I did eventually nab my own copy of the Dreamcast version just before COVID along with SA2. But back then the only way I was able to play it was on GameCube. SA2 however was on a burned CD my cousin made for Dreamcast but had no VMUs for it. Again, GameCube comes in to save the day. I had my own memory card for GameCube and my own copies of SA 1 and 2. I didn't mind the small differences. The complaints about the visual glitches are understandable but I never understood the ones about the audio. I never had a hard time hearing characters and I thought lines overlapping made them sound more realistic like they were having an argument or correcting one another. I will admit Dreamcast versions are prettier. Since my GameCube stopped working and I've since traded it in, Dreamcast is my go-to version. My Dreamcast can play burned CDs too so it's all good. I've tried all kinds of games on it I've never even heard of.
Hey, I don't remember if it's in this video or another, but could you tell me what sound effect you use for the "DAB" gags? Namely Knuckles and Eggman in separate videos.
I think it's a song from Cyberpunk, but I just got the audio from this video (it has a lot of explicit language just fyi lol): th-cam.com/video/NYnRKOKm28A/w-d-xo.html
@@spontman Thanks a million dude, and keep up the good work!
I think I’ll install Redream, my favorite Dreamcast emulator, on my Steam Deck when it arrives and I’ll play through the Sonic Adventure titles. Yes, I know there’s the DC conversion mod for SA1 on Steam, but I want to avoid fiddling with mods on the Steam Deck, if possible. As for SA2, the Dreamcast version is just straight up better in every way and as far as I’m aware, there’s no DC conversion mod for the Steam version.
SA on Dreamcast is still one of my top 10 favorite games of all time.
The character stories evolving and all the worldbuilding in the hub worlds are a result of the game being developed as an RPG first. This is the same deal with Shenmue starting off as a Virtua Fighter RPG.
Like the video, but one thing I have issue with is saying that most people played Sonic Adventure on Dreamcast rather than DX on GameCube. For Sonic Adventure 2 and the Battle port, I agree with that, but for Adventure 1, the Dreamcast version was the highest selling Dreamcast game with over 2.5 million copies sold. Maybe more people have the HD Xbox 360/PlayStation3/PC version then the Dreamcast version, but the GameCube version, defiantly not.
You have a great taste! Just like me xd
Dude you have a lock on mechanic that shoot torpedos on the airplane levels don’t tell me u your just taping the button u only get those weak shots like that your suppose to hold and lock on and then release like on Gammas levels
One thing I find interesting about sonic adventure is that I don’t think the story is what actually happens in the game… kinda.
There’s a cutscene where Sonic and tails run into knuckles for the first time in the story. The dialogue is different depending on which character you are playing as.
As Sonic tails says practically nothing at all during this cutscene and Knuckles seems confused and unwilling to listen to reason when Sonic tries to explain he’s not trying to steal the master emerald, then Sonic says fuck it and they fight.
Tails: Sonic can do no wrong and doesn’t at all try to pick a fight with knuckles when he realizes one is going to happen anyway, tails has more dialogue and it’s relevant, and knuckles is more aggressive than he is in sonics version of the scene.
Knuckles: tails again is irrelevant for the most part, but Sonic is more aggressive in the cutscene and doesn’t bother trying to explain that he’s not trying to steal the master emerald and just starts a fight.
Something along those lines…
Anyway it comes off as if what you’re seeing in the game is not what actually happened in the story but rather the character you are playing as is telling you their version of events and that’s what you’re playing.
So in that scene tails may or may not have actually said what he says in his version of the story but Sonic and Knuckles aren’t going to notice or care about what tails had to say as much as each other. And Knuckles is either lying through his teeth to save face and not look like an idiot by portraying Sonic as more aggressive while Sonic I think is just saying what he remembers and noticed: that knuckles was confused, he tried to explain to knuckles what’s going on, knuckles started a fight anyway and he kicked his ass.
But knuckles is going to pretend he won that fight.
Also they probably all fought Chaos 4 afterwards at the same time, but tails claims he did it by himself, while Sonic claims him and tails did it together and knuckles claims he did it by himself.
I find it interesting that they put the effort into making the cutscenes different depending on which character you’re playing as as if they’re telling their version of the story when very few people even notice this.
The reason why audio mixing is so weird is that the console the game was originally created for has a built-in sound compression system or smth like that, so they didn't worry about making some sounds too lout
Graphically, the lighting in this game always popped out to me. Maybe not groundbreaking by today's standards, but they were definitely above average for the time. I always thought the levels looked beautiful with how they're illuminated and colored, and it was really cool how the character models would react to the lighting. The darker portions of this game especially like the Casinopolis sewers really knew how to sell that dingy atmosphere through sparse lighting and fog effects.
1998 is when i was born
Honestly I can't take seriously complaints about Big's controls. If I was able to do it with no problem as a 7 y.o. there's nothing too hard about it, but it's obviously not something you want in Sonic games anyway
I actually liked playin as big, though I'd have to replay it for a second opinion
Were your 3 requirements of Sonic games inspired by ExoParadigmnGamers' 4 requirements of Sonic games?
Yes, yes they were.
@@spontman Yeah, he's a great content creator. At any rate, I subbed and I'm looking forward to more of your content.
@@y2commenter246 Thank you! And yeah, Exo's stuff is excellent. One of my all-time favorite YT reviewers.
@@spontman I hope he makes more content after he finishes his degree!
Both the virtual pet mini game and the main game are great. I hate how people cherry pick and only say parts of it are good. Both Adventures are solid and full of good content.
My favorite sonic game period
This will forever be my favorite Sonic Game and I always go for the main game and ignore the Chao Garden outright. SA 2 was a massive downgrade to the first game in my opinion with the Story and Music (Minus the Treasure Hunting stages) being the best things about this game, the Speed characters aren't as fun to control, the Mech Stages are the only ones that feels as great as Gamma's gameplay. And DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE TREASURE HUNTING STAGES. THEY MAKE BIG THE CAT'S STORY LOOK LIKE SONIC'S STORY IN SA1.
12:00 yeah that always made be confused, because foxes can fly and hedgehogs can defy gravity to jump in midair.
Hedgehogs can curl up into a ball, and foxes are known for their large tails.
@@spontman well that only applies to his physical appearance and not his ability, flying, which is the point you were making in the video about knuckles.
@@ff_675 What does Tails use to fly?
@@spontman knuckles uses his quills to glide
Sega related echidnas to hedgehogs? I dunno.
Big the cat is based.
And fishingpilled
Did he just "trash talked" the chaos garden ? I'm about to chaos report this video kek, jk
You didn't talk about the bosses
I talked about them in the SA2 video.
Adventure is Still the best Sonic game (DC version or PC with DC Mods not the DX crappy ports) Frontiers is Ok but it’s too easy and not enough new ideas if u ask me
Ngl, I hate chao garden
Sonic adventure isnt bad just old play th egame if you havent already
Nah. You can go nuts with Sonic. Spin dash lets you go ANYWHERE
They’re people.
If people can sit there and still praise SM64 and OOT but at the same time criticize SA1 and SA2, then those people are idiots. SA1 aged way better than those games and it’s not even close. The Adventure games are still GOATED.
Just for a comparison with 1998 standards...
Final Fantasy VII and The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time came out in 1997.
Ocarina of Time came out in 1998, not in 97
There were also 3 Crash Bandicoot games by the time Sonic Adventure came out.
@@Pixeel_XIII I think it came out in 97 in Japan.
@@AlastorNahIdWinRadioDemon No, Zelda OoT also came out in 1998 in Japan
@@Pixeel_XIII Just checked and you're right on this. Don't know why I thought it came out in 97.
Played Sonic Adventure 2 first then Sonic Adventure as a kid lol best 3D Sonic games ever!!
It really sucks that I only consider about half of this game to be really good (that being Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles).
I don't care for Amy's campaign, Gamma's alright I guess but nothing too special, and Big the Cat just doesn't belong in a Sonic game in this fashion.
Even though it was 90% cutscenes.
Sonic got most of the cutscenes due to having the longest campaign. Big seems to be more of an afterthought since his is the shortest and is outright pointless. Amy and E-102 both connected. Tails had his own story despite having the same stages as Sonic. I don't hate all the cutscenes, but man BIg The Cat's is dumb. lol
Knuckles got cut short due to him not knowing anything about his history. I wanted to see proper interaction between Knuckles and Tikal. Instead Knuckles is like, I don't know and I don't care to know. o.o
It’s such a terrible game I don’t care that it came out in 1998 it’s still shit. But goddamn I fucking love it so much, I got DX for my birthday in 2003 and I still go back and play it every year on my birthday with my brother, it just doesn’t get old to me, and it probably never will.
That is literally the most ridiculous statement I’ve ever seen. Make up your mind already