Garrus' and Thane's Loyalty Missions | Mass Effect 2: Pt. 20| First Play Through - LiteWeight Gaming
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- First play through of Mass Effect 2 Legendary Edition walkthrough part 20 where we complete Garrus' and Thane's loyalty missions. This series will include the full game story of Mass Effect Legendary Edition including all main stories from beginning to end, side missions, gear upgrades, ability points, and paragon decisions.
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"Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest SOB in space" has to be one of my favourite scenes from the trilogy. Brilliant bit. 😅
Regarding Garrus' comment about what you taught him: there were a couple of responses you gave to Garrus, I think regarding either Saren or Dr Heart or both, where you went with the badass option rather than the more reserved, that's probably it!
Ok, "a fun of ton" is definitely going to become a thing in our house 😅
@ 02:00 "you are ruining someones day, somewhere and sometime" .. I always wonder what will happen to voyager 1 + 2? what they going to crash ... some day ? 💥
@@saecula2391 Yeah - unless they're intercepted by an intelligence, they're probably gonna drop out of the sky somewhere and leave a mark! 😣
Poor Liara, still waiting for that dinner invitation on her ship 😔…
Nice job doing the 2fer loyalty on the Citadel. Hope you’ll do the same for Tuchanka.
19:20 In ME1 you encouraged Garrus to just shoot Dr. Saleon, instead of arrest him
"That is why you do not EYEBALL it!" I love that convo. lol
There's a trend with Garrus. In ME he wanted to hunt down and kill that doctor. In ME2 he wants to hunt down and kill Sidonis. Moral of this is not to piss off Garrus. He holds serious grudges!
Gotta say, I love how invested you've been in these games. I've watched a few playthroughs and people tend to just blast through the story. The games have so much depth and I appreciate that you are really experiencing it. It really pays off as you play through, and it's going to pay off even more when you get to 3.
It's my favorite blind playthrough of ME I've yet seen. Lite is a gamer who knows how to entertain other gamers.
In case you can't remember Harkin, he's that drunk skeeze you first meet at Chora's Den who calls you "sweetheart" in a way that makes you wanna punch him
Prediction: She lets Sidonis live.
Edit: She did, woot! The Renegade dialogue choice during Elias’ interrogation is pretty badass/funny, but it requires it to be at 100%.
This kinda suprised me, considering how she played Garrus' mission in ME1
I was struggling SO BADLY with the decision for that hahahah
@@LiteWeightGaming I have played it five times and never let him die. Much like stopping Miranda from killing Niket I like to think it helps Garrus as a person to prevent him from becoming a cold blooded killer.
"Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space!" One of the best quotes in the game, that still randomly pops into my head sometimes😂
Your squad are affected by how you talk and your actions.
In ME1, you told Garrus to be Paragon, but then told him to kill anyway. Thus him being confused about you in ME2.
I've noticed a weird pattern with the Garrus mission: Nearly every streamer plays paragon so most choices they make are usually identical. Except for this mission.
Most female streamers choose to warn Sidonis and most male streamers let Garrus take this shot.
This may be a coincidence, but it's honestly often enough to establish a pattern.
Maybe more men believe in letting their homies make their own choices and support them, while more women want to influence the men around them, and make them change/grow?
Not judging either choice, or gender. It's just a statistical outlier.
yeah sorry but you're full of it. i'm a straight male and i let sidonis live. also, you trying to make this a thing about gender is cringe.
I just watched a female streamer, julia_tv do this mission and she let Garrus take the shot.
I’m a guy, but on my first playthrough I let Sidonis live. I figured living with the consequences of his actions would be the better outcome.
Same with attitude toward Zaeed. Female streamers tend to be not like him too much while as men usually think he's cool.
Julia_tv is a lowkey psychopath though. Don't tell her I said that. Seriously though. I always save Sidonis. His life is already over.
You were a paragon player in ME1, but you definitely encouraged Garrus to be more of a vigilante (ignoring C-Sec red-tape, taking down criminals by any means necessary, etc). That's why he's a bit more ruthless. Don't worry, though, a lot of us vets prefer him that way. 😅
Sir Issac newton's 3 laws of motion
1. an object will not change it's motion unless a force acts on it
2. the force of an object is equal to it's mass times it's acceleration
3. when two objects interact they apply forces to each other of equal magnitude and opposite direction
As we learned from the Space Marines... don't shoot bullets in space! hahha
@@LiteWeightGaming 😂😂
LWG: "this is a paragon playthrough" *chooses every Renegade interrupt* 🤣🤣i love it
2:31 I found that bit funny when I watched a clip of it. Space Full Metal Jacket.
I think I love the loyalty missions the most in ME2. The recruitment missions feel like a Pokémon gotta catch 'em all thing but the loyalty missions really help you bond with and come to love your crew. It's so satisfying. Great video again Lite!
that "eyeball it" exchange is so awesome makes me laugh every time
Sometimes if you don't hit a renegade interrupt, a paragon one will appear after
Welllll remember at ME 1, finding Dr. Hearts? You were so disgusted you did choose to kill him, that's what Garrus meant
Yay, 2 for 1. Honestly a lot of the loyalty missions are short and can probably be 2 for 1s with except maybe one, which is Tali's (which you should wait to do anyway, since it involves a hard conversation check). Also I've never seen someone hit Mouse, that was so sad! Also I really loved that line subtle from Bailey "You think he's the only father who screwed up raising a son" ❤ Great video Lite
The loyalty missions did a marvelous job of giving the characters a purpose. I felt like they were the best ways to know your companions in this game especially.
Heyhey, great to see another ME2 vid!
19:25 This relates to his personal mission in ME1 with Dr. Saleon, where you had a choice to (try to) arrest him, or just take matters into your own hands and kill him. So you must've chosen to kill him back then and that's why he says he learned that from you. You can be paragon in front of them all you want, but they only care about what happens on their personal mission 😅
43:05 Oof. Yep, sometimes the intrusive thoughts and/or trigger happy fingers win. Sometimes there's a paragon choice after a renegade interrupt, sometimes there's a renegade choice after a paragon interrupt, sometimes not choosing an interrupt can have its own consequences as well. Damned if you do, damned if you don't! I tend to reload as well after an interrupt or conversation choice goes wildly different from what I expect, because at times it can be really unexpected what Shepard'll do. Games like these have made me a paranoid quicksaver haha
The main story missions might be more cinematic and action-packed, but I've always enjoyed the loyalty missions. The character moments and amount of depth they add is great. You can still chat with your crew members after finishing their loyalty missions for more character interactions and any romance you want to pursue. But, I'd like to think you'd stay faithful to Liara.
Garrus's loyalty mission is one of my favourites and Garrus is probably my favourite crew-member in the trilogy. I'm a big fan of Clint Eastwood and Garrus is basically Dirty Harry in space. I killed Sidonis on my playthrough. But after seeing the Paragon option, I actually think it's better. Adds more growth to Garrus's character. Overall I would have liked to have been able to arrest him. If you listern to the Citadel new, he does turn himself in but you never find out if he gets convicted or not because Omega is outside the Council Space.
Poor Mouse, that was a bit harsh and Captain Bailey is lowkey the MVP of this episode.
If you keep taking every renegade option then your team will take cues as how you act
Bailey surprises me. They gave quiet a bit of depth to a guy most of us would have left to the background.
46:00 you made the exact correct call, don't beat yourself up!
46:10 We'll make a Renegade out of you yet Teegan.
40:59 paragon femshep being so enamored by thane that she renegades here to impress him is canon for me, actually lol
Shooting Sidonis to me is the culmination of how you encourage Garrus in the first game. If you encouraged his hard line form of justice then shooting Sidonis is the natural conclusion to that arc. If you were urging him to take a more measured approach, then sparing Sidonis completes that line.
They said, from a purely moralistic standpoint, I think sparing him is the right decision. I think it gets more development out of Garrus as a character.
All through this, it’s pretty clear his emotions are clouding his judgement and that he’s after revenge more than Justice.
And the way the mission is set up is interesting too. The objective is to find Sidonis but the way it’s framed actually puts Harkin as the real bad guy.
Yes, the loyalty missions get you involved with the characters---and you have been steering them to be less violent since ME1. Wow! Liteweight is a TRUE paragon....you passed the "Sidonis Test." well...except for rough handling Mouse. It can be auto-wired into your head to jump with those screen prompts...not much time to think.
Yeah, that Renegade interrupt for Mouse is pretty harsh. There aren't many that make you regret triggering them, but that's definitely one of the few. 😕
Fun fact: The guy in the warehouse wanting an exchange was in the first game, trying to get a refund in the markets. He insisted he bought the item from that store even though the merchant kept telling him they didn't sell it. That's what makes him saying he's been trying to get a refund for two years so hilarious to me.
2 for 1, nice I love all the loyalty missions in this game and how much they add to the characters, these two are great and the remaining ones are as well. Still waiting for Liara and the ending of that DLC though lol, hope you'll get to that soon😄💙
Don't worry, that's in the next video!! And then we're finally caught up on videos that I pre-recorded!!! =)
@@LiteWeightGaming Yes! I can't wait. I'm also really excited for Tali's loyalty mission. It's one of my favorite Mass Effect memories and I wish I could experience it for the first time again.
19:30 You told him to kill that scientist in the first game and then chose "enjoy that feeling" or something, lol.
Those two Krogan bodyguards just walk off if you ignore the Renegade prompt.
And you still haven't talked to Liara!
At one point you are going to trigger a point of no return event. At this point you have to have all the loyalty missions if possible and every update possible and jump directly to the omega 4 relay. If you dont you going to miss the positive ending. This can be helped if you do the loyalty missions as soon as you aquire a companion. They are going to fight better as well and you can choose different outfits for them.
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"His Loyalty Mission Is Here, As Well"
It's the same deal with with Grunt's and Mordin's loyalty missions, both of their loyalty missions are on Tuchanka
You should live with the decisions you make. You won't always like the outcomes, but that's the point to choice based games. Not everything will have the ideal outcome. But if you're trying to have the "perfect" playthrough you might as well look up a guide and just follow that. Otherwise, please just live with your choices. Good or bad, they are YOUR choices and what make your playthrough unique.
Some of these choices are so hard to make, because you know they can change and alter thing’s, we did good! Garrus and Thane’s are great, I’m having a fun A ton time Lite! Lol 🤗
Being puzzled at how Thane is so fine as every Mass Effect fan does. Eventually you learn that we simply accept that the aliens are hot and act accordingly lol
Euraka!!!! Now you understand why you should use every character for their dialogue and bantering. Loyalty missions are great cause like you said you bond and understand them as people. Loyalty missions are personal. I am having a great time watching your play through, especially your singing sessions 😂😂
Bailey is a great guy. Wish there an interrupt to give him pizza!
"I had a fun of ton!.......yay."
I'm doing a replay of this game coinciding with your playthrough and I went and did the Garrus mission after dinner tonight to see if the dialogue was the same for me. It was not the same, Garrus was less bloodthirsty and didn't blame me for teaching him to be so (see video at19:02). I think the difference is all the way back in ME1 when you found Dr Saleon and you let Garrus shoot him in cold blood. I tried to arrest Dr Saleon instead (he still ends up dying) but that taught Garrus mercy instead of vengeance. It's amazing how the little choices you make in this game affect things down the line. (kind of like real life)
I guess I should have just read all the other comments since this was pointed out several times by others. I still enjoyed my confirmation playthrough of the same mission.
Lol you were quick on that first Move to the Side before stopping
The drell are cool, but man, Kolyat's voice actually hurts my throat.
You can do Grunt and Mordin's missions back to back on Tuchanka, recommend doing Grunt's first.
And when doing Mordin's, she takes Tali with her
Those were good loyalty missions. I especially enjoyed the theme of a father trying to save his son. Personally, I let Garrus take the shot simply because I agreed with his former logic. But I do love your decision there and I applaud you. I can't tell if you remember Harkin. He was the scumbag human in C-Sec in the first game who gave weird creep vibes when you approached him about information near the game's beginning. Anyways, about Renegade interrupts... hm. I don't know what could help ease your conscience other than perhaps trying to keep a look out for what the interrupt is? You may not always know what is going to happen, but if it is a renegade, it can be badass or cruel, and if it is a paragon, it could be heroic or considerate. Renegade will also always appear on the right side of the screen as red, mirroring the right trigger on your controller and your dominant hand. Dominant and red being representative of well, your power, strength, badass qualities. Likewise, paragon will always be on the left side as blue, mirroring the left trigger and your left hand, the "weaker" hand, the hand you offer to someone you may otherwise wish to hurt, not care about, or even just an innocent who has been harmed. This would be your reserved, controlled, blue, good side. Basically... hm. Just keep an eye on how you would react in a situation and on how that might morally translate. If you are going to react like a paragon, then be ready to hit the LT instead of the RT. If you feel like you would like to be a badass or genuinely feel irritated at a character, then be ready to hit the RT instead of the LT. Don't know if this perspective will help you make more informed interrupt decisions, but I'll leave it here for future reference.
41:50 99% of renegade quicktimes are snarky or badass. I forgot about that one. That was just sad...
Wassup Liteweight how are you today I enjoy all of your videos and reactions I can't to see more I am really excited for this playthrough 😁
Renegade Shepard solves all troubles 😊
Hey LWG I really enjoyed Mass Effect 2 today and I just
want to say "you did good, you did good, you did good
Friend You did so Good" in the Garrus mission and with
Thane's mission you brought back the good cop, bad cop
from angle from L.A. Noire to me and that was absolutely
awesome Thank You very much my Friend LWG/LiteWeight
and Take Care.🧝♀️👍💎🛡💎🐶👋
I said it before and I'll say it again. Garrus should be in his new armor. The old stuff is full of holes.
By the way, Renegade is the quick way to deal with that Elias Khelam scumbag. I know you restrained yourself, but you'd be forgiven for messing that guy up.
19:25 because you let him Kill Dr. Heart.
Hello LWG it's Tuesday and awesome
that you are on with Mass Effect 2
and doing Garrus and Thane's Loyalty
Missions, i hope you are okay and are having a wonderful Time take care and
Thank You my friend LWG/ LiteWeight.
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Poor Mouse! I've never seen the renegade trigger used on him before lol. It happens though and it's so tempting to reload! I must've done it countless times on my first playthrough...
You probably know this well already, but here's something like a basic principle, at least in ME2 - using the renegade trigger on obviously bad/corrupt characters is fine and even preferable, as it provides interesting/appropriate outcomes. For characters that are good or neutral though, it makes Shepard act more like an asshole (though in ME2 it's not as bad as in ME1).
If you ever come back to the Citadel, go have a few drinks at the Dark Star! Promise it's worth it😂
not gonna lie, sometimes your Shepard looks just like you
THANE IS HOT? 🔥 man, i would pay to see a photo of Mr. Lite! 🤣
Thane’s loyalty mission is really good even though I had to reload it three times, because I always lost track of the target. Also the reason why everyone keeps saying you taught them how to be evil is a bug in the game in Conrad’s case, that occurs when you implement your ME 1 save game into ME 2. There’s nothing you can do about except for a save game editor if you’re playing on pc. The reason why Garrus said it is in his loyalty mission in ME 1 you told him to just shoot Dr. Saleon in the face instead of arresting him
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23:52 Thane's efforts were in vain.
I bet that hurts 😂
Make this old ME gamer happy. Give us a biotic charge!
yeah. it hits, doesn't it? "you think he's the only man who's screwed up raising a son?"
... it's an entire world and history full of people messing up raising their kids, and captain bailey is shown to respond to this plot point.
it's not easy. and mistakes are made. but sometimes just trying to do the right thing at the right time just... it feels good.
makes me want to believe that there is more people who can stand up to do the right thing for their people.
nothing is ever "right" or "wrong". but captain bailey doing it for a stranger...
makes me think... crooked and tough cop archetype... but we're all human.
edit: oof rough to read but i don't want to bother fixing it. sorry the thoughts came out in a disjointed mess.