Lathrix wanting to get better at the game: challenges himself to build only cram Me wanting to get better at the game: *yelling at steam boilers in confusion*
When recording this video I spent over 3 hours making the steam propellers for the back of the end design with a proper on/off manual switch.. I still have no idea how It ended up working. I think steam engines are just 90% magic and luck.
As those programmers would say; a fine example of “black magic”. (I curse you with watching every lathrix video that comes out…) *“skdkxqkk:939£|£|+~*]&:,&83,@:&”!* BUHAHAHAHAHaaaaa……
The FTD wiki is pretty heavily outdated to boot, which is a shame because this game really needs a reference to nail down what some of the numbers actually mean for optimization purposes.
Fun Fact: Lathland's initial build, the CRAM submarine, is really accurate to the historical M-class british submarine, at least in concept. A submarine equipped with a massive 305mm cannon.
Pretty much all early submarines were armed with deck guns and would only submerge defensively because torpedos were so expensive and underwater power was inefficient. It was a really cool but of naval history.
Hey Lathrix, if you are interested, the awesome jet water skimmer at 35:10 was based on a real plane colloquially known at the Caspian Sea Monster, or more officially the Lun class erkanoplan. It was a Russian aircraft in the 1980s. Absolutely worth a google!
Technically the Caspian Sea Monster was a one off prototype to prove the overall layout, and the Sun class were a smaller design that were actually produced (in a limited amount).
It is very, VERY impressive how far you managed to get only using CRAM cannons. Good on you for even attempting this! CRAM-only FtD gets ridiculously hard (and tedious) the further along you go. You did get darn lucky you didn't run into a Flying Squirrel or SS plane squadron though, because those things are almost impossible to CRAM these days. Other than that: masterfully done, frag CRAM FTW, and the way you dealt with every CRAM-resistant enemy was beautiful! 👍
Cram&Ram is my fav combo. I dub it the "CRAMakazi" strat. Can't miss them with your cram if you're point blank. Sadly, this strat doesn't work well against flying enemies >:(
@@LordDragox412 FYI it should be "CRAMakaze", as "kaze" is the transliteration of "Wind", the second half of [神風], meaning "Divine Wind" and transliterated in full as "kamikaze".
i'd really really love to see a "back from the dead" run where you revive the oldest ships you've ever built like the Salmonella and E.Coli to modern battle readiness, you can change only a few things, so weird old things you did like the Salmonella's underwater wood floatation wings and the full focus of missiles on the E.Coli i know retrofitting is a lot more difficult, but you have done it to enemy ships before
@@thedyingmeme6 especially that one! best wood ship he's built. but no, he should be able to pick any ship he wants, retrofitting all of them is too much work for ships laid out to accommodate weapons that don't exist anymore
Its also how early submarines would operate. Torpedos where so expensive that they would have deck guns and surface against anything which they outarmed to force a surrender.
FTD is a series I wish to see continued in the future. Is there any particular reason you’re only doing adventure mode btw? I would love to see a campaign mode (though I realize that takes a lot more time) like old times :>
Idk, he tried last year but stopped for some reason. My best guess is that he’s too much of a perfectionist to settle for “good enough” for campaign builds; With so much time available to build and needed to play the campaign, he gets burned out.
Lathrix has done quite a lot of campaigns in the past but hasn't done any recently, like not in the past year at all. I've no doubt he will do another one at some point.
There is a lot of micromanaging in the campaign, and unfortunately it does get a tad tedious after a while, in my opinion. I've come twice in trying to do the campaign but ended with giving up halfway, on both.
I still think the Plague Guard is the greatest ship he's ever built. While the Malal's Will was really powerful, the Plague Guard perfectly encapsulates what FtD is: a battleship game
What an amazing run, loved the submarine function. Would love to see some inspections of the more brutal battledamage your ship suffers in the fights. Not just a surface image like you tend to show, but a deeper dive into the damage. I'd like to see what armorings work and which are apparently death etc. Or just see impressive damage done that your ship survivedand near misses that might have been catastrophic if they just broke a few more blocks. Also, that poor turtle...
The thing about cram cannons is if they hit they do a lot of damage, the hard part is getting them to hit at 300m/s when the target is 1000m away and are moving at 40m/s
I would love to see a "one size fits all" challenge. Essentially just one single gun allowed. You have to make a gun strong enough to take out heavy ships while fast enough to hit a flying squirrel. Seems plausible with a rapid fire laser or machine gun, but still sounds really tough.
@@deusvult4084 I've been thinking about this quite a bit... I don't think lasers are a resolution whatsoever like I initially thought. The second a shield appears, run's over. That said, plasma and rail might work! Would seriously love to see this, though!
I can confirm that rails can indeed wreck flying squirrels. I haven't played the game in quite some time, but I remember them being one of my design targets for a railgun cruiser. Have to be stupid fast shells with good accuracy though. Need to hit them with a quickness. From what I remember the railguns could accurately hit stationary ships at 20km, moving ships at 6 - 10km, depending on size and speed. Flying squirrels it had to be close at around 1km and less.
I love this challenge run! I love the idea of FtD challenge runs in general, really. There's one challenge I want to see you do more than any other with this game. A few years ago I think, you did a submarine run. I loved the idea of the sub run and did one myself, but more than that I LOVED the idea of a first-person battle bridge and copied the idea in my own runs multiple times, using pistons to raise the bridge to its combat position and wiring cameras around a periscope to use as monitors on the bridge. It's fantastic. It's also really difficult compared to 3rd person. I would love to see you do a first-person challenge run where your focus is on building an awesome bridge! I think it would shift the focus from pure combat to intelligence and information gathering.
Some massive guns with heavy reload times makes a lot of sense if you can submerge between shots. Reload, aim on target, float topside and fire full broadside before sinking again, biding your time to strike from the depths once again.
Love the idea of CRAMs and every time I build one I get frustrated after it misses the first 20 shots and go back to advanced cannons thinking I'll make a 500mm one this time and not something that vomits forth a million shells like I usually make xD
i love how in the beginning the front of the ship looked like a chestburster from alien and now i have a compulsion to play from the depths again. i always love your FTD series Lathrix keep it up my good man
Have you ever usied the "Wire" Method of EMP protection? I have been testing with it recently to great sucess. (Thin lines of heavy armor running through the ship and around weapons, directly conducting all EMP Damage straight into isolated Surge protectors) Might be too strong for this kind of video and play though.
Its propably one of the best emp defense schemes. Mostly because ideal armor construction *Already* has faraday cage shaped HA for protection around vitals, thus it basically needs no modification. For airships they're pure HA so it doesnt even matter.
Another glorious playthrough Lath! Would love to see you experiment more with the wonky tech like warp drives and ring shields. Like a short range teleporting craft with a beam sword would be incredible.
You may have been better off if you always fired the first barrage manually before letting the AI do things. Otherwise it tends to miss since the AI will basically fire it the instant it gets within the accepted firing error.
Lathrix you should try using alloy in conjunction with lots of Heavy armour. This way you dont float too high & have basically equivalent protection as metal armour. (Metal is cheaper but less dense, alloy + Heavy armour is slightly more expensive but bulkier per volume because Heavy armour is god)
So ring shields... I was one of the people who really dug into experimenting with them to figure out exactly how they work. I don't remember all the exact numbers anymore, but the gist of it is... A ring shield increases the AC of block faces that are parallel to it. Its strength is a constant (the thing I don't remember rn but maybe +40 or something?) multiplied by the ratio of the shield's area to the largest cross-sectional area of the vessel along a parallel plane. Angled blocks, IIRC, get a pythagorean interpolation according to the angle of the faces. So... to fully defend your ship with them, you need to have _three_ ring shields, facing each of the main axes, and they need to kind of run along the outer edges of the ship just under the skin. This makes them pretty difficult to retrofit onto existing builds, and they're kind of a "build a sparse wire frame of ring shields and then build a ship around them" sort of thing. Their main weakness, other than the sheer inconvenience of building them into vessels is that the entire time they're online, they build up charge. If the ring itself is ever damaged, then it unleashes effectively a hollowpoint blast from the damaged end (I think... I remember one of those types of systems does HP/impact while the other does penetrating kinetic, between ring shields and particle cannon piping, but I might have it backwards). I do think it's the ring shields that does hollowpoint style damage, as it has a tendency to basically shear your vessel in half. I actually think they _are_ a cool concept, but they rarely get used because of the difficulty of building them and the damage they do to your own ship when destroyed. Plus I don't think the AC boost is big enough to compete with shield projectors. I remember hearing that it's because one of the lead devs didn't like the concept, so he's kind of killed it via neglect. I do wonder if they could find a niche in tank design, especially for the vulnerable sides, since tanks are much more likely to have heavy armor on the outside. Boosting heavy armor up to AC 100+ is much more significant than boosting metal to 60+.
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You're from the depth series are why I started playing the game again after abandoning it. Still can't build an aircraft to save my life but I have made a few working ships and subs.
Great run! One option how to use back part for frontsiding, is to make very long hull mounted guns. Basically all parts in stern and end of the barrel all the way at the bow
A round of FtD with only using fixed mount/direct fire weapons would be interesting. No turrets or guided missiles, just spinal mounts and dumbfire rockets. Of course drones seem like the workaround for those limitations, but you could restrict those as well.
I love watching this because it reminded me of my cram only ship. It had 6 tripple barrel crams and they fire one at a time. Its not effective by any means when it comes to lams but its fun to watch.
I know that adventure mode is more of your jam, but I would really love to see another campaign- is there any chance that you’ll do another one of those anytime soon?
I would love to see you just do a video and dive a bit into engine/powerplant designs or gun designs or armor or even whatever, just to get some explanations and tips fro stuff in the game. Also not being a thing that needs to condenze a dozen? hpurs into an hour.
I'd love to see you do another hydrofoil whenever you do another one of these videos (for example, maybe during a torpedo only challenge) if it's possible.
This is hands down my favorite adventure mode video you've made! I love that many of the fights were close and we got to really appreciate the enemies that you were fighting.
there’s a mod i’d recommend for a playthrough like this called the booster barrel mod. it costs 2k resources but doubles the speed of cram shells so the cost is justified. other than that i’m not sure about any other mods
I started watching you about nine years ago. I have had new family members join or brought into this world, and i have had some depart from here. Watching your ftd vids takes me to a good place.
Loved the video @Lathland! Can't wait for the next video man! Imagine playing From the Depths, but you're playing as one of the Various Nations of World War Two building Fleets to Fight the Various Builds of the Community. The Rules are Simple: • Builds on the Ships and Aircraft (as well as Vehicles if you're in a Map with Land Masses like Neter) from World War Two. Ships from World War One that were Modernized for Service in World War Two are Included. • No EMP Rounds Allowed! The Technology, let alone the Research for, it Wasn't around in World War Two. Only Frag, HE and AP Rounds are Allowed. • Cargo Ships, Tankers and Repair Ships will Wait in the Resource Zones while your Main Fleet. Basically, The Resource Zones are to be Used as Anchorages like Ulithi and Tulagi. • Cram Cannons are to be the Main and Secondary Armaments. 40 millimeter Bofors and even 20 millimeter Oerlikon Anti-Aircraft Guns as well as their Various Counterparts are already provided in the Game. • Missiles can be used as Bombs, Rockets, Torpedoes, Depth Charges and for Smaller Escort Vessels like the Corvettes, Frigates and Destroyer Escorts Hedgehog Anti-Submarine Mortars. • Most Importantly, Learn to Breadboard Along the Way. The Breadboard should allow each Ship to Function as it Did in the War (or in the Bismarck's Case, how the Ship Should've performed). If a Ship is running low on Supplies, It should be able to conduct "Replenishment at Sea" Operations with the Cargo Ships or the Tankers for it's fuel. If it needs to be Repaired, it should be able to Meet up with the Repair Ship at the Nearest Resource Zone and Get Repairs. If an Enemy Build is found under the Water, The Destroyers and Any Ships with Sonar should be able to reduce speed to 8 to 14 Knots (9.2 to 16.1 mph or 4.151 to 7.265 m/s) while Making their Attacks on it. If an Enemy Build is found Flying Towards you, Your Ships Anti-Aircraft Guns as well as any Fighters or Fighter-Bombers from your Aircraft Carriers should be able to Deal with it before any Damage is Done to the Fleet. The Same for Aircraft, They should be able to Fold their Wings for Storage either on the Flight Deck or in the Hangar Deck below, bring them Out for when they're about to Take off, Land on the Carrier when they've Used their Ammunition and need to Rearm and Refuel or even Repair Etc. If you're still wondering about whether to use Steel or Alloy Armor Blocks, Both are Good but it's Generally Known that Alloy is Better because it's Lighter and has more Health. The Best way that I can see for using both Steel and Alloy is to have Steel Armor for the Draft or the Part of the Ship's Hull that's under the Water and Everything above the Waterline will be made of Alloy. The Armor Scheme can be Poles or Wedges of either Material, depending upon the Players Choice. Let me know what you think about this and I'll catch you in your next video man!
This was great! Now I want to see you build on a Massive scale. So the rules would be: 1, only wood and stone. 2, craft cannot be boat shape. 3, must be 4x the volume limit at each stage. I want to see you building 10 layers of stone armor 😅
I think I have watched this video 3 or 4 times but I cannot know because everytime I do watch this I fall asleep on the very relaxing sound of CRAM cannons dismantling their enemies.
From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future. From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future. From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future. From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
This was an absolutely awesome run! I'd love to see the series continued, and I've got a challenge run for you! A hovercraft with both maximum and minimum altitudes that are pretty restrictive. Have to make sure you have lots of redundancy for control while still keeping everything protected and dealing damage out.
Lathrix you have given me love for From the Depths and Terratech, I just wish I could play this game and do challenges like these, but i dont have enough brain power to understand almost anything in this game. Keep up the great content, love these full playthroughs as well.
the two successive megalodons at the end was great. this craft armor-wise reminds me of something i sometimes enjoy doing in space engineers, whenever a friend gets the itch to do some sandbox pvp in it: making a ship that's basically just a massive nicely shaped chunk of armor with some guns sticking out
FTD’s a series that i would love to see continued in the future! also for a challenge idea, a speedrun of the adventure mode. basically, you’ve got to get to difficulty 100 (or whatever one you want to) as quick as you can. only rule is no goofy cheese
The death of the Black Current has to be one of the funniest battles I have ever seen. You've got this great submarine with anti-ship missiles that cannot hit the massive battleship lumbering towards it because it has no torpedoes and the absolute tub is submersible. And then said battletub uses quite literally the worst weapon to use underwater to kill you. Edit: And did it twice!
Please sir keep blessing us with videos of this game, I'm in love with your From the Depths videos ! I would be so hyped to see a playthrough where you do a run only using melee drones !
This is absolutely a series I wish to see continued! These challenge runs are great. Maybe you can do one with a limited max amount of weapons? F.e. you can only have 3 damaging weapons at any time but they can be any type you want
Woooo thats what I have been waiting for! The cram cannon craft at the end both looked and sounded like a proper power house! It seems kinda dejavu, can't remember exactly in which adventure video of yours but the same thing happened at the end: you beat the most powerful craft up to that point, then its brother comes to take revenge. This was awesome to watch!
Man, it's been a while since I've last watched one of your videos, and I'm really glad that amidst many awful changes in my life, I can still come here and just immediately get back into it. You're an awesome guy and as someone who was around for your very first FtD series I'm really happy to see it's still going
That final fight reminded me of the story of the HMS HOOD. After facing off against the Bismarck in WW11 she was sunk but, as she was sinking and only one turret remained above water she fired her last defiant shot be fore going under.
1:08:11 reminds me of the meme of the scene in The Last of Us 2 where the cute rabbit gets shot with an arrow. Such a cute creation, dead in a split second. The Twin Guard ships are all fantastic, but the higher tier ones are all so wonderfully animated. Especially the sea turtle that unfortunately got a CRAM shell stuck in its nose. Petition to call the chunky masterpiece of a ship at the end of the video the Citadel. The Onyx Watch has the Stronghold as their god-tier ship, & as Lath's ship took some design inspiration it should follow a similar naming theme. It's big & chunky, covered in CRAM, got shields to deflect, well supplied in a war of attrition, & is tough to kill. From the Depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future!. I have been waiting for you to do an adventure playthrough with cram cannons for aaaaages!! OMG its finally here! Im so happy! :D
My favorite will always be the drone run. Another play on that could be 3 ships; one boat, one plane/airship, and one submersible working together. Keep the enemies on their toes.
Lots of fun to watch, FTD is definitely a series I wish to see continued in the future. Also, I realize that this would probably not have worked very well (if at all), but it would have been neat (and in the spirit of the challenge) to try using airburst CRAM as a munition defense.
Frankly I'm impressed the final vessel beat even 1 Megalodon! I was convinced nothing short of a doom CRAM could get through it's munition defense. Fun fact, it will actually use its main guns to shoot down huge missiles if your vessel has them, such a well defended craft. Your build style may be lumpy and full of weird shapes, but I absolutely love it.
I would really like a "mini gun challenge". You can use anything you want but it needs to be tiny! Tiny caliber, tiny tetris, tiny rockets. Death by a thousand needles! The final ship looked quite nice imo! It's always amazing to see crams doing a good job :)
From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
Same!!!!!
agreed
Same here
i agree
Same. Have you thought of saving your adventure mode vehicles and using them in campaign modes?
Lathrix wanting to get better at the game: challenges himself to build only cram
Me wanting to get better at the game: *yelling at steam boilers in confusion*
When recording this video I spent over 3 hours making the steam propellers for the back of the end design with a proper on/off manual switch.. I still have no idea how It ended up working.
I think steam engines are just 90% magic and luck.
As those programmers would say; a fine example of “black magic”.
(I curse you with watching every lathrix video that comes out…)
*“skdkxqkk:939£|£|+~*]&:,&83,@:&”!*
BUHAHAHAHAHaaaaa……
mathemagical!
looking at the FTD wiki is… an experience
@@Lathland once you learn how they work, you might find it fun to build the weirdest steam engines the world has ever seen.
The FTD wiki is pretty heavily outdated to boot, which is a shame because this game really needs a reference to nail down what some of the numbers actually mean for optimization purposes.
Fun Fact: Lathland's initial build, the CRAM submarine, is really accurate to the historical M-class british submarine, at least in concept. A submarine equipped with a massive 305mm cannon.
There is also the French cruiser sub Surcouf.
I discovered those about 2 days before watching him use it. I was ecstatic
reminds me of french submarine sorcouf
Pretty much all early submarines were armed with deck guns and would only submerge defensively because torpedos were so expensive and underwater power was inefficient. It was a really cool but of naval history.
It looks like an eyeless croc
Hey Lathrix, if you are interested, the awesome jet water skimmer at 35:10 was based on a real plane colloquially known at the Caspian Sea Monster, or more officially the Lun class erkanoplan. It was a Russian aircraft in the 1980s. Absolutely worth a google!
Oh interesting!
@@Lathlandone of my favorite things of all time
They are so cool!
Technically the Caspian Sea Monster was a one off prototype to prove the overall layout, and the Sun class were a smaller design that were actually produced (in a limited amount).
You missed a blue portal during that fight@@Lathland
lmao the luns were smaller than the sea monster, which was a one-off
The first iteration of this thing is basically an archerfish - I love it.
It does look like a archerfish and the USS Archerfish
It is very, VERY impressive how far you managed to get only using CRAM cannons. Good on you for even attempting this! CRAM-only FtD gets ridiculously hard (and tedious) the further along you go. You did get darn lucky you didn't run into a Flying Squirrel or SS plane squadron though, because those things are almost impossible to CRAM these days.
Other than that: masterfully done, frag CRAM FTW, and the way you dealt with every CRAM-resistant enemy was beautiful! 👍
Oh look, another FTD OG I've watched a good bit on :D
Cram&Ram is my fav combo. I dub it the "CRAMakazi" strat. Can't miss them with your cram if you're point blank. Sadly, this strat doesn't work well against flying enemies >:(
Good to see you here borderwise
Obviously this challenge made me think of you 😂But it’s a CRAM Tub, no Canoe!
@@LordDragox412 FYI it should be "CRAMakaze", as "kaze" is the transliteration of "Wind", the second half of [神風], meaning "Divine Wind" and transliterated in full as "kamikaze".
Hey Lath... how about a run where all weapons are allowed... but the propulsion is only sails?
OH NO. But OHHHHHH YES!
@@Springtrap11556I had to translate this from English to English, but I agree
love youtube for that must be going from British to American or vise versa lol
@@butter3413
Like laterally ie you can have up and down engines
Or just only sails meaning you could only be a boat
@@awaldo2848balloons aren’t propulsion so he could be a flying ship!
i'd really really love to see a "back from the dead" run where you revive the oldest ships you've ever built like the Salmonella and E.Coli to modern battle readiness, you can change only a few things, so weird old things you did like the Salmonella's underwater wood floatation wings and the full focus of missiles on the E.Coli
i know retrofitting is a lot more difficult, but you have done it to enemy ships before
And the Malal's Will!!!!!
@@thedyingmeme6 especially that one! best wood ship he's built. but no, he should be able to pick any ship he wants, retrofitting all of them is too much work for ships laid out to accommodate weapons that don't exist anymore
I wanna see the Medrengard again!
I only saw it vs Robbaz's ship and apparently it wasn't finished.
I would love to see that
Hiding under the water and bobbing up to fire point-blank, before vanishing beneath the waves, is so insidious i love it
Its also how early submarines would operate. Torpedos where so expensive that they would have deck guns and surface against anything which they outarmed to force a surrender.
FTD is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
Is there any particular reason you’re only doing adventure mode btw? I would love to see a campaign mode (though I realize that takes a lot more time) like old times :>
Idk, he tried last year but stopped for some reason.
My best guess is that he’s too much of a perfectionist to settle for “good enough” for campaign builds; With so much time available to build and needed to play the campaign, he gets burned out.
Lathrix has done quite a lot of campaigns in the past but hasn't done any recently, like not in the past year at all. I've no doubt he will do another one at some point.
I believe he said that he just was having more fun in adventure mode than in campaign. Didn’t say he was ruling it out in the future, though.
he's tried them but found the difficulty to not be fun
There is a lot of micromanaging in the campaign, and unfortunately it does get a tad tedious after a while, in my opinion. I've come twice in trying to do the campaign but ended with giving up halfway, on both.
I always love a battleship brawler design, my favorite still has to be the plague guard from that one campaign a few years ago
The Malal's Will?
plauge guard will forever live in my heart that ship was awsome
I still think the Plague Guard is the greatest ship he's ever built. While the Malal's Will was really powerful, the Plague Guard perfectly encapsulates what FtD is: a battleship game
What an amazing run, loved the submarine function.
Would love to see some inspections of the more brutal battledamage your ship suffers in the fights. Not just a surface image like you tend to show, but a deeper dive into the damage. I'd like to see what armorings work and which are apparently death etc. Or just see impressive damage done that your ship survivedand near misses that might have been catastrophic if they just broke a few more blocks.
Also, that poor turtle...
the way it just got BODIED was a sight to behold.
The thing about cram cannons is if they hit they do a lot of damage, the hard part is getting them to hit at 300m/s when the target is 1000m away and are moving at 40m/s
No to mention they are also subject to munitions defence on top of that ^^
Iirc every projectile can be hit by Munitions def. Even APS if it's slow and big enough
I love how the FTD soundtrack is either calming piano with an angelic choir or dubstep that you would put over a trailer for a Tom Cruise movie.
TRUE THOUGH
About 15-20 minutes in, and I see wing turrets. I like wing turrets. Such an interesting way to get more forward firepower.
I would love to see a "one size fits all" challenge. Essentially just one single gun allowed. You have to make a gun strong enough to take out heavy ships while fast enough to hit a flying squirrel. Seems plausible with a rapid fire laser or machine gun, but still sounds really tough.
Plasma might do the trick, too.
@@deusvult4084 I've been thinking about this quite a bit... I don't think lasers are a resolution whatsoever like I initially thought. The second a shield appears, run's over. That said, plasma and rail might work! Would seriously love to see this, though!
I can confirm that rails can indeed wreck flying squirrels. I haven't played the game in quite some time, but I remember them being one of my design targets for a railgun cruiser. Have to be stupid fast shells with good accuracy though. Need to hit them with a quickness.
From what I remember the railguns could accurately hit stationary ships at 20km, moving ships at 6 - 10km, depending on size and speed. Flying squirrels it had to be close at around 1km and less.
I love this challenge run! I love the idea of FtD challenge runs in general, really. There's one challenge I want to see you do more than any other with this game. A few years ago I think, you did a submarine run. I loved the idea of the sub run and did one myself, but more than that I LOVED the idea of a first-person battle bridge and copied the idea in my own runs multiple times, using pistons to raise the bridge to its combat position and wiring cameras around a periscope to use as monitors on the bridge. It's fantastic. It's also really difficult compared to 3rd person. I would love to see you do a first-person challenge run where your focus is on building an awesome bridge! I think it would shift the focus from pure combat to intelligence and information gathering.
I like this one.
Sounds interesting
Best suggestion.
I'll add my vote for this.
It seems pretty hard to do CRAM only, especially if you're not allowing active defence. Excited to see how it goes!
what about squid shaped submarine that grapples and drags the enemy underwater?
In one of his campaign playthrough he created this type of submarine-mine-brander. But i can't tell you when.
I think it's Building the Fleet #3 and #4
Your comment put a gap in the comment section.
nice a glitch or ur making a joke i dont understand?@@WildmanTrading
Some massive guns with heavy reload times makes a lot of sense if you can submerge between shots. Reload, aim on target, float topside and fire full broadside before sinking again, biding your time to strike from the depths once again.
"hey where'd that island come fro-"
*obliteration via high caliber broadside volley*
I've been wanting a CRAM based design for a long while. They're simply the most fun thing to watch for me. Everything about them is so dramatic.
Love the idea of CRAMs and every time I build one I get frustrated after it misses the first 20 shots and go back to advanced cannons thinking I'll make a 500mm one this time and not something that vomits forth a million shells like I usually make xD
i love how in the beginning the front of the ship looked like a chestburster from alien and now i have a compulsion to play from the depths again. i always love your FTD series Lathrix keep it up my good man
Have you ever usied the "Wire" Method of EMP protection? I have been testing with it recently to great sucess. (Thin lines of heavy armor running through the ship and around weapons, directly conducting all EMP Damage straight into isolated Surge protectors) Might be too strong for this kind of video and play though.
Its propably one of the best emp defense schemes. Mostly because ideal armor construction *Already* has faraday cage shaped HA for protection around vitals, thus it basically needs no modification. For airships they're pure HA so it doesnt even matter.
@@snowdrop9810 HA no longer acts like a surge protector.
Another glorious playthrough Lath!
Would love to see you experiment more with the wonky tech like warp drives and ring shields. Like a short range teleporting craft with a beam sword would be incredible.
You may have been better off if you always fired the first barrage manually before letting the AI do things. Otherwise it tends to miss since the AI will basically fire it the instant it gets within the accepted firing error.
"1 weapon of each type(or a mirrored pair)" would be fun to see too. I'd kind of like to see more defenses and a teleporter too.
Lathrix you should try using alloy in conjunction with lots of Heavy armour. This way you dont float too high & have basically equivalent protection as metal armour. (Metal is cheaper but less dense, alloy + Heavy armour is slightly more expensive but bulkier per volume because Heavy armour is god)
HEAT is going to have a good time
Heavy Armor is 12 times the cost of Metal and Light Alloy. I'd say that's a little more than just slightly more expensive lol
@@oliverlimb109 That's why you put beam slopes in the middle of your armor layers ^_^
@@Feraligono yes i know however the light alloy get deleted then you have the same problem
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So ring shields... I was one of the people who really dug into experimenting with them to figure out exactly how they work. I don't remember all the exact numbers anymore, but the gist of it is...
A ring shield increases the AC of block faces that are parallel to it. Its strength is a constant (the thing I don't remember rn but maybe +40 or something?) multiplied by the ratio of the shield's area to the largest cross-sectional area of the vessel along a parallel plane. Angled blocks, IIRC, get a pythagorean interpolation according to the angle of the faces.
So... to fully defend your ship with them, you need to have _three_ ring shields, facing each of the main axes, and they need to kind of run along the outer edges of the ship just under the skin. This makes them pretty difficult to retrofit onto existing builds, and they're kind of a "build a sparse wire frame of ring shields and then build a ship around them" sort of thing.
Their main weakness, other than the sheer inconvenience of building them into vessels is that the entire time they're online, they build up charge. If the ring itself is ever damaged, then it unleashes effectively a hollowpoint blast from the damaged end (I think... I remember one of those types of systems does HP/impact while the other does penetrating kinetic, between ring shields and particle cannon piping, but I might have it backwards). I do think it's the ring shields that does hollowpoint style damage, as it has a tendency to basically shear your vessel in half.
I actually think they _are_ a cool concept, but they rarely get used because of the difficulty of building them and the damage they do to your own ship when destroyed. Plus I don't think the AC boost is big enough to compete with shield projectors. I remember hearing that it's because one of the lead devs didn't like the concept, so he's kind of killed it via neglect.
I do wonder if they could find a niche in tank design, especially for the vulnerable sides, since tanks are much more likely to have heavy armor on the outside. Boosting heavy armor up to AC 100+ is much more significant than boosting metal to 60+.
Have you considered adding this ship to the workshop? Would be cool to compare the “big ships” from the various FTD TH-camrs.
A joy as always to watch, been so engaged in custom battles lately I haven't even glanced at the adventure mode lol
ITS CRAM TIME BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! :D Glad to see you play From The Depths Lathrix!
Had to do a translation, but I agree
FTD is indeed a series i wish to see continued!!! Freaking awesome video!
You're from the depth series are why I started playing the game again after abandoning it.
Still can't build an aircraft to save my life but I have made a few working ships and subs.
Great run!
One option how to use back part for frontsiding, is to make very long hull mounted guns. Basically all parts in stern and end of the barrel all the way at the bow
I was about to go to sleep but i can always CRAM a lathland video in😜👍
From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future 😄
More. I need more. I find the game way to complicated to learn in the short amount of free time I have. I play vicariously through you.
To me it seems like you just make videos of whatever game you like. It's what I love about your channel. (:
A round of FtD with only using fixed mount/direct fire weapons would be interesting. No turrets or guided missiles, just spinal mounts and dumbfire rockets. Of course drones seem like the workaround for those limitations, but you could restrict those as well.
I love watching this because it reminded me of my cram only ship. It had 6 tripple barrel crams and they fire one at a time. Its not effective by any means when it comes to lams but its fun to watch.
So its basically an Iowa class Battleship but X2??
That sounds AWESOME!!!
From the depths is one of my favorite games that you play, thanks for the great longform content!
I know that adventure mode is more of your jam, but I would really love to see another campaign- is there any chance that you’ll do another one of those anytime soon?
Want to see the influenza 2
Want to see the influenza 2
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From the Depths is a series I would like to see continued in the future.
I would love to see you just do a video and dive a bit into engine/powerplant designs or gun designs or armor or even whatever, just to get some explanations and tips fro stuff in the game. Also not being a thing that needs to condenze a dozen? hpurs into an hour.
First volley perfectly taking off the turtle-boat-bot's head and immediately killing it was hilarious.
I'd love to see you do another hydrofoil whenever you do another one of these videos (for example, maybe during a torpedo only challenge) if it's possible.
The issue would be flying enemies- if he's restricted to just torpedoes then he wouldn't be able to hit them
Maybe a giant mobile base on hydrofoils with little drones? Or perhaps a ramming vehicle on hydrofoils? Or maybe both?
I simply love your content and have been a fan for years. From the Depths will always be a series I wish to see continued far into the future.
Please do another long term FTD series :( I found your channel many moons ago watching the desert/land vehicle themed campaign
This is hands down my favorite adventure mode video you've made! I love that many of the fights were close and we got to really appreciate the enemies that you were fighting.
Got that bell icon, I was ready
The fact that you've gone and 3 barreled crams shows just how insane you are.
Love to see from the depths
33:50 is the literal coolest vehicle. I’ve been watching your vids for a decade especially from the depths and I’m blessed to see that
there’s a mod i’d recommend for a playthrough like this called the booster barrel mod. it costs 2k resources but doubles the speed of cram shells so the cost is justified. other than that i’m not sure about any other mods
I love these long videos. It's a nice thing to have on in the background.
Now use only C-RAM
I started watching you about nine years ago. I have had new family members join or brought into this world, and i have had some depart from here. Watching your ftd vids takes me to a good place.
Loved the video @Lathland! Can't wait for the next video man! Imagine playing From the Depths, but you're playing as one of the Various Nations of World War Two building Fleets to Fight the Various Builds of the Community.
The Rules are Simple:
• Builds on the Ships and Aircraft (as well as Vehicles if you're in a Map with Land Masses like Neter) from World War Two. Ships from World War One that were Modernized for Service in World War Two are Included.
• No EMP Rounds Allowed! The Technology, let alone the Research for, it Wasn't around in World War Two. Only Frag, HE and AP Rounds are Allowed.
• Cargo Ships, Tankers and Repair Ships will Wait in the Resource Zones while your Main Fleet. Basically, The Resource Zones are to be Used as Anchorages like Ulithi and Tulagi.
• Cram Cannons are to be the Main and Secondary Armaments. 40 millimeter Bofors and even 20 millimeter Oerlikon Anti-Aircraft Guns as well as their Various Counterparts are already provided in the Game.
• Missiles can be used as Bombs, Rockets, Torpedoes, Depth Charges and for Smaller Escort Vessels like the Corvettes, Frigates and Destroyer Escorts Hedgehog Anti-Submarine Mortars.
• Most Importantly, Learn to Breadboard Along the Way. The Breadboard should allow each Ship to Function as it Did in the War (or in the Bismarck's Case, how the Ship Should've performed). If a Ship is running low on Supplies, It should be able to conduct "Replenishment at Sea" Operations with the Cargo Ships or the Tankers for it's fuel. If it needs to be Repaired, it should be able to Meet up with the Repair Ship at the Nearest Resource Zone and Get Repairs. If an Enemy Build is found under the Water, The Destroyers and Any Ships with Sonar should be able to reduce speed to 8 to 14 Knots (9.2 to 16.1 mph or 4.151 to 7.265 m/s) while Making their Attacks on it. If an Enemy Build is found Flying Towards you, Your Ships Anti-Aircraft Guns as well as any Fighters or Fighter-Bombers from your Aircraft Carriers should be able to Deal with it before any Damage is Done to the Fleet. The Same for Aircraft, They should be able to Fold their Wings for Storage either on the Flight Deck or in the Hangar Deck below, bring them Out for when they're about to Take off, Land on the Carrier when they've Used their Ammunition and need to Rearm and Refuel or even Repair Etc.
If you're still wondering about whether to use Steel or Alloy Armor Blocks, Both are Good but it's Generally Known that Alloy is Better because it's Lighter and has more Health. The Best way that I can see for using both Steel and Alloy is to have Steel Armor for the Draft or the Part of the Ship's Hull that's under the Water and Everything above the Waterline will be made of Alloy. The Armor Scheme can be Poles or Wedges of either Material, depending upon the Players Choice.
Let me know what you think about this and I'll catch you in your next video man!
This was great!
Now I want to see you build on a Massive scale. So the rules would be: 1, only wood and stone. 2, craft cannot be boat shape. 3, must be 4x the volume limit at each stage.
I want to see you building 10 layers of stone armor 😅
I just love these kinds of videos, they're convenient and absolutely entertaining!
i would abseloutly love to see more FtD in the future. very pleasant to watch.
I think I have watched this video 3 or 4 times but I cannot know because everytime I do watch this I fall asleep on the very relaxing sound of CRAM cannons dismantling their enemies.
Yes! I’ve wanted this for so long! CRAM is just the best weapon and it’s so fun watching something just fall to pieces when it gets hit!
From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
This was an absolutely awesome run! I'd love to see the series continued, and I've got a challenge run for you! A hovercraft with both maximum and minimum altitudes that are pretty restrictive. Have to make sure you have lots of redundancy for control while still keeping everything protected and dealing damage out.
Those distraction missle/ballons you made halfway through are hilarious and i love them
Lathrix you have given me love for From the Depths and Terratech, I just wish I could play this game and do challenges like these, but i dont have enough brain power to understand almost anything in this game. Keep up the great content, love these full playthroughs as well.
the two successive megalodons at the end was great. this craft armor-wise reminds me of something i sometimes enjoy doing in space engineers, whenever a friend gets the itch to do some sandbox pvp in it: making a ship that's basically just a massive nicely shaped chunk of armor with some guns sticking out
FTD’s a series that i would love to see continued in the future!
also for a challenge idea, a speedrun of the adventure mode. basically, you’ve got to get to difficulty 100 (or whatever one you want to) as quick as you can. only rule is no goofy cheese
The music kicking in when you engaged the Megalodon was wonderful.
The death of the Black Current has to be one of the funniest battles I have ever seen. You've got this great submarine with anti-ship missiles that cannot hit the massive battleship lumbering towards it because it has no torpedoes and the absolute tub is submersible. And then said battletub uses quite literally the worst weapon to use underwater to kill you.
Edit: And did it twice!
Please sir keep blessing us with videos of this game, I'm in love with your From the Depths videos !
I would be so hyped to see a playthrough where you do a run only using melee drones !
This is absolutely a series I wish to see continued! These challenge runs are great. Maybe you can do one with a limited max amount of weapons? F.e. you can only have 3 damaging weapons at any time but they can be any type you want
Woooo thats what I have been waiting for! The cram cannon craft at the end both looked and sounded like a proper power house! It seems kinda dejavu, can't remember exactly in which adventure video of yours but the same thing happened at the end: you beat the most powerful craft up to that point, then its brother comes to take revenge. This was awesome to watch!
i loves how you reacted to killing the turtle
"Only cram cannons" Mad lad. I just got back into the game and I like watching you cuz I actually learn a lot.
Man, it's been a while since I've last watched one of your videos, and I'm really glad that amidst many awful changes in my life, I can still come here and just immediately get back into it. You're an awesome guy and as someone who was around for your very first FtD series I'm really happy to see it's still going
That final fight reminded me of the story of the HMS HOOD. After facing off against the Bismarck in WW11 she was sunk but, as she was sinking and only one turret remained above water she fired her last defiant shot be fore going under.
FTD is a series that I wish to see continued until the eventual heat death of the universe
From the Depths is a series i wish to see continued in the future
I really love the design of your ship. It's shape definitively radiates it's brawling nature, socky, bulky, manacing!
1:08:11 reminds me of the meme of the scene in The Last of Us 2 where the cute rabbit gets shot with an arrow.
Such a cute creation, dead in a split second.
The Twin Guard ships are all fantastic, but the higher tier ones are all so wonderfully animated. Especially the sea turtle that unfortunately got a CRAM shell stuck in its nose.
Petition to call the chunky masterpiece of a ship at the end of the video the Citadel.
The Onyx Watch has the Stronghold as their god-tier ship, & as Lath's ship took some design inspiration it should follow a similar naming theme. It's big & chunky, covered in CRAM, got shields to deflect, well supplied in a war of attrition, & is tough to kill.
From the Depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
The Swamp Citadel also works as he sometimes sinks into the water.
FTD is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
A vid about from the depths from you is the first vid ever in my watchlist and I cherish it and the nostalgia I get whenever I see it
From the depths is a series I wish to see considered in the future.
From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future!. I have been waiting for you to do an adventure playthrough with cram cannons for aaaaages!! OMG its finally here! Im so happy! :D
My favorite will always be the drone run. Another play on that could be 3 ships; one boat, one plane/airship, and one submersible working together. Keep the enemies on their toes.
Great video as always, From the depths is a series I wish to see continued in the future.
man that fight with the Megalodon was truly a clash of titans, something you'd expect to see as a cinematic for a faction's backstory or something.
From the depths is a series we would all love to see continued in the future!!!
Lots of fun to watch, FTD is definitely a series I wish to see continued in the future. Also, I realize that this would probably not have worked very well (if at all), but it would have been neat (and in the spirit of the challenge) to try using airburst CRAM as a munition defense.
The first variation of the ship with it's submarine mode reminds me of that time the British mounted an battleship gun on an submarine
Frankly I'm impressed the final vessel beat even 1 Megalodon! I was convinced nothing short of a doom CRAM could get through it's munition defense. Fun fact, it will actually use its main guns to shoot down huge missiles if your vessel has them, such a well defended craft.
Your build style may be lumpy and full of weird shapes, but I absolutely love it.
I love how even in the end game was a working sub.
"SIR WHERE DID THE WARSHIP GO?"
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHERE DID IT GO!"
So crazy that it saved the run against the black currents
Crazy how soothing it is to watch shells slam into armour like this. Plus one sub!
I would really like a "mini gun challenge". You can use anything you want but it needs to be tiny! Tiny caliber, tiny tetris, tiny rockets. Death by a thousand needles!
The final ship looked quite nice imo! It's always amazing to see crams doing a good job :)
In the future I would love a cheesey sub full play through
I'd like to see a campaign playthrough only using energy weapons; railguns, lasers and other stuff like that.
OH, seeing the "caspian" is so neat, I'm glad to see a design that references the awesome madness that is ekranoplans in game.