OTF Comparisons Benchmade vs. Microtech (practical/self-defense?)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- 200 SUBSCRIBERS! Thank you! This is just a comparison of three OTF knives and my opinion about them. I have the Benchmade 4600DLC-1 Phaeton, 3400 Autocrat and the Microtech UTX-85 231-4. I also have the fixed infidel in the mix. I hope you enjoy this, please share it with someone that will appreciate it! Thanks again for subscribing.
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I am a knife guy and have a decent collection. But after I was permanently injured on active duty, I found a new and deep appreciation for the one handed deployment on a OTF and use a Microtech as a reliable EDC. So I have to politely disagree with you on that point. OTF's ARE a practical one arm/handed go-to option due to an injury, disability, or if you need both hands for different jobs at the same time. But you do get what you pay for, and as of now I believe companies like Microtech, Benchmade, and others do set a high standard. Clones are more friendly with your wallet, but lack in quality. on a lighter note, they are fun on the fidget scale. Hope this was helpful!
3:10 - Blade shape and blade grinds are different. A drop point can be flat, hollow, convex, etc. ground. The shape does not determine the grind and vise versa. You were thinking of "full flat grinds"
Hi my friend. I know this is an older video, but you still make some good points in it. For ease of carrying without alarming others around us, folders or OTFs are a must. Fixed blade knives are more reliable since there are no moving parts to malfunction. However, they're just not practical to EDC because of the size. A quality OTF or side opening knife is probably the only choice most of us have. I have several very good quality knives that I carry daily depending on what I've got going on that day. When I'm more concerned with self protection, I carry a full size Benchmade Infidel dagger blade. Camping/hiking, a swiss arm knife. Hunting, a fixed blade field dress knife. EDC, a slip joint pocket knife. BTW, I've had a couple of Autocrats for 2-3 years now. I don't recall any malfunctions though I'm not a fidgeter like many auto owners are. I think the Autocrat is a fine auto OTF, though not really practical for anything other than self protection and I prefer the Infidel for that. One of the best EDC knifes available is the Benchmade Phaeton because of the size, flatness, and drop point blade.
You get some serious bang for your buck when it comes to the Microtech.
Between my Microtech and my Benchmades, Microtech comes ahead. That micro bevel works great, just strop it and let Microtech sharpen it. Plus, Anthony Marifone is a custom maker, he knows what he’s doing on production knives. Far more consistent on quality too.
I'm a Force Recon Marine. I have NEVER heard of anyone carrying an OTF knife. I'm sure that after diving in the ocean and dragging through the sand, with corrosion and build up of dirt, the OTF mechanisms will fail. Fixed blade all day, every day.
Thank you for your service!
Simper Fidelis.
I know this is a 2-year-old post however I just wanted to say I'm glad you said this.
So many people think that the military and especially Special Forces use complicated high-tech tools ( in some cases this is true) but when it comes to weapon Tech we prefer simple and reliable.
On benchmade OTF knives, there is a screw that holds the blade to a small carrier that keeps it on track, and said screw tends to walk itself out after a while. I had to disassemble mine and threadlock that screw in, and the small vibration and blade play problems were fixed permanently. That may be why your benchmades have a slight noise when tapped
I got a good one - in the OD green. No misfires in the past 2 weeks and a hundred or so deployments. If not for the military discount, I’d agree that it’s overpriced. Warranty is valuable and reassuring. Thanks for the video - good stuff!!
You can use OTF as a kubotan and when .... hit the fan You can open the blade and knife is already in Your hand. You decide what and when. When You take out a fixed blade even in self defense it’s all over and the authentication is on the another level.
The movement in an OTF has nothing to do with how strong they lock up. there is movement because you need some looser tolerances in case of foreign debris in the mechanism so it still deploys
I can’t unsee the set of balls on tht Benchmade fixed blade 😩
the autocrat in my eyes would be perfect if it was single edge and had a more respectable price instead of costing a third of my paycheck
I agree
Yes!!!! No use or desire for double edge 👍
I used to agree with you on the otf not being as useful as a fixed or even a folder, most often the hype coming from the rule of cool. But I have to say, they are a lot more useful in your daily life than either. The one hand operating is so useful I never knew and was very surprised. So I really think they are great for every day life. I forgot who said it, but the most useful knife is the one you have on you.
I agree with you alon that quote!
Lol yes the Fixed Infidel would be fail safe and my first choice for carry if need be and OTF’s are just fun and should NEVER be your only self defense knife. Great Video Semper Fidelis
My friend great vid I jusr subscribed That's exactly why I would never rely on a OTF for self defense They fail too much
For yall ppl freaking out about the grind on the autocrat, if u use one edge more and sharpen it a lot, youre GOING to screw the grind up
Improve on health in 2020?
You got another thing comin.
Hope you're safe.
What? Did you get the covids? I never did. Immunity is pretty sweet. Suck it
Micro Tech all the way. Micro Techs internal parts are actually very simple with a single spring. I think the "thud" sound on deployment is because it has a thicker slightly heavier blade. The micro grind is harder to sharpen but it is stronger and wont chip as easy. Ive seen torture test done with the Micro Tech and a guy used a sledge hammer to send it through a 2x4 like a nail, and it didn't even collapse. I just ordered my second Micro Tech, its the tanto point ultratech coming today I cant wait until I get home from work and open it up. Once you start buying "quality" knives its addicting as I cannot go back to Walmart specials. I also have a few Benchmades and they make a great folder but I feel that Micro Tech is on top of the game with their blade steels and craftsmanship. My other Micro Tech is a Socom Elite auto and my next one will be the LUDT non auto.
Really cool mat and also I have the phaeton love it
IMHO you are not being picky at all and they have stopped centering the blades in the handle as well . That's why I have stopped buying benchmade after YEARS of being a BM only guy . It's sad that they have let the quality falter so drastically. Especially since it's not material just sub par labor and QC department.
I edc a Benchmade Precipice, really enjoy it. Nvr had a issue with it and it’s been deployed tons of times
"Flat grind" refers to the large section below the SIDE of the blade and the bevel. Hollow ground is when that space is slight concave. Flat ground = flat, and yes, convex grind would mean that portion curves slightly outward! Katana are the epitome of convex "grind" though it's called, "apple seed" shape. Katana have no "bevel" per se, the outwardly curved side is smoothly polish-honed into the end which is why the edges are very strong.
A Flat ground blade will have slightly more cross-section just above the bevel than a hollow ground, but hollow ground is easier to bring to a razor edge.
The perfect knife. Benchmade 9400 auto
IT'S ALL ABOUT TWO BENJAMINS BABY!
That's until you get to 300. :)
I'm glad you got to have some family time Dad.
Better health is a neverending daily battle, but you'll achieve your goals if you make them small and achievable.
I lost over 80 pounds, then gained half back after my body said I can't do an hour+ of Tai-Bo, weights, and pilates six days a week.
So, now I'm a bit heavier, walking for exercise, taking medication, and being as happy as I can with that.
Don't get on yourself about it, stay positive, enjoy your family.
I don't have any OTF knives as I can't carry them in MA, so I spend money on those I can.
Very cool looking items though, and I appreciate the knive candy.
But, the platform seems novelty to me, as a greenhorn.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the advice and support! Thanks for watching sir, have a great weekend.
Congrats on doubling your subs since this was made👍
And now over triple.
"Flat Grind," vs. hollow. The entire blade doesn't need to be ground to the spine to qualify as flat ground. The opposite would be a hollow or concave grind, no matter how much of the blade the primary bevel covers.
It's flat but not full flat. Spyderco likes to do full flat.
Thanks for the review.
a good clone is best for me i have kids and cant afford this crazy prices👍
Hi Austin. If you’re still looking for an Ultratech to play with, I have the LEO version that I would be willing to lend you.
I want to get the Autocrat, any suggestions where I should buy a good one?
I would buy from a dealer so you know its not a clone. GP Knives is great.
Although yes, there is some risk because it's mechanical, I think you need to examine your rationale behind your opinion of them not being there for you in a life-threatening situation. I mean you say you have seen the torture test/stress test (probably done by X-Ring). And you keep saying there's a lot of movement, but there's not. My Microtech has maybe 1mm of movement on the x and y axis at the tip. I was shocked at how solid it was actually when I first starting collecting them. Also, I've never had a failure to fire with my Microtechs. Do you realize that the Microtech is designed so the spring action is at rest until you go to activate the blade.
And I get it, the fixed blade is ready all the time. But, are you going to carry the fixed blade to the office? Are you going to carry the fixed blade to a meeting? Are you going to carry the fixed blade as a UPS driver? It's ready to go, but the best knife if the one you have with you. And for me, unless you're a complete moron who bought a knife and hasn't practiced with it at all, and also, haven't mentally visualized yourself in an adverse situation and practiced to get your muscle memory where it needs to be.
Lastly, thanks for saving me the $345 for the Autocrat... even at the discounted pricing. ;-)
(P.S. lesson learned = buy Microtech... and I'm not a shill or have ever received anything from them either. But, there is a reason they're the benchmark.)
20:56 lol not even my lighting a 40$ otf has ever failed me like that and ive had it for a year a used it everyday
There is certainly a disappointment on the Autocrat. That being said, it could happen to anyone really. I had a Microtech Cypher which used to fail me every now and then. I bought a clone cypher afterwards, just to get a feel of how they compare. To much of my surprise, the clone has yet to fail on me!
I guess my point is, Benchmade and Microtech are both great companies who try hard to make good autos. However, due to the complicated nature of OTFs and large production numbers, quality issues do happen on some occasions.
You can have a drop point blade with a flat grind dude.. Just like you can have a hollow grind in a drop point blade. The blade shape (drop point, tanto, dagger, etc) is completely separate to the type of grind (flat, hollow, chisel, etc.) used on the blade.
Very interesting, thx
With these video I am more convinced then ever that I do 'not like' OTF (I was interested to have one, probably Microtech the UTX-85 (or maybe the Benchmade Mini-Infidel)) but ... no :/
I think I will go to spend more (the 300-450 dollars for the OTF) on a custom fixed blade or a custom slipjoint
Do you want to know one thing that bench made otf's always have over Microtech knives? Is that their button switches to activate the knife are always completely solid compared to Microtechs switches which are wobbly and have all kinds of play which is b******* for the money you're paying.
Ive never seen a microtech with a "wobbly" button, and not a single one with play either. Mine are perfect.
They have a spring underneath the button making it smoother to use.
To compare with the infidel I would say a D/E combat troodon
there's no comparison there, BM is a budget knife compared to Microtech
THE BIG PROBLEM WITH BENCHMADE AUTO KNIVES,
Is when you send it to Benchmade for repairs is that unless you are military or police your not getting that knife back.
lol what? They send them back, why would they kept it?
I found some Phaetons on sale for 262$ I needed this video thanks lol
Have you heard the term "Full-Flat grind"?
That UTX is a "Partial-Flat grind" It is also a drop point.
Unless it has a very slight concavity or convexity that is hard to see.
New sub!! Please do a edc cobratec vs microtech
I carry one folder and one OTF every day. As far a my folder goes it’s a Benchmade 275 Adamas. My OTF its always the Microtech. Benchmade OFT knives are just not reliable enough.
I thought i was CRAZY!!! WOWW!!..😂😂🔥👌👍👀👀
IMO, the micro tech is a much better knife. I feel benchmade is over rated and way too many knives that are too much the same
I disagree!! MICROTECHS broke down on me many times.. I just returned one.. An ULTRATECH D/E serrated version. The blade was really awesome weight the knife was nice but kept misfiring.. So i got my money back from BLADE HQ who by the way had no problem with the return. So what does my dumb ass do drop 420$$!! on another OTF!!!. I think i might be misfiring.. God bless and Good luck to all OTF owner's and hopefully when you really need to deploy an OTF for the purpose there made 4.. The fkn things will OPEN!!👌👍🔥😂🌤🌈🦄SUNSHINE and Rainbows and OTFs not failing!!
Should have went with a Nice fixed BLADE!!!.. That New SOG in S35VN flipper is beautiful!! I probably should have gotten the fixed..
I have a $60 6tac otf that never has failed.
The only difference in most budget otf Knives and expensive otf Knives are the blade steel and the steel the locking blocks are made of . All the other differences are minor .
Please tell me you’re gonna do the paper cut test with those dollah bills, it would be a great way to spice up an otherwise boring video… puhlease cut up the dollahs!
Drop point has nothing to do with the grind of the knife. I would say it is a drop point with a high saber grind. Personally I would never spend my money on a bench made even though I love the bug out but bench made is in my opinion anti second amendment so screw them
Drop point is blade shape, Not the grind! Definitely flat ground!
Fixed Blade Infidel. OTF's are nice toys, but they fail.
a microtech aint failing on u in a situation
They still and have failed. Just like any mechanical item.
Someone is running at you? Is this America or Prison. Sheesh.
Microtech makes the best OTF’s in the world. Period. Next is either Guardian Tactical or Heretic Knives.
Microtech makes great knives, heritic is about the same, guardian tactical has a better switch and for the most part heavier blades.
Lightning Elites are cheap and work well for thirty ish bucks. Akc too. Cobratecs and vipers ain't too bad.
But if you want the best, Ive been carrying a Hawk Deadlock and there is NOTHING even close.
“Benjamin” I know you said you weren’t giving anything away but I’ll hold out hope.
Hahaha I wish I could buddy! I REALLY DO. That was Christmas money going towards bills! Thanks for watching!
I love OTF but to be honest there just a adult fidget spinner. For reliability and speed you can’t beat Emerson in my opinion
Id like to try an Emerson.
Ozark Pursuit you’ll not regret it. I was getting ready to order a new Emerson and saw where bladeops had a paramilitary 2 with Wave and bought that instead. But I love that wave design
The blade was uneven 🙃lol
I would be returning that
Microtech is way better quality then benchmade and the prices are the same or better microtech combat troodon is better quality by far
Benjamin!
Benjamin in your hands not mine
Benjamin? Come on man! I need money!!!!! Lol jk... But if you ever change ur mind.... Lol
Want to sell that fixie? ;)
Benjamin
The autocrat...😭
Im sure they will fix it right up. I can handle if they will take it from me!
BENJAMIN
The phaeton is made by microtech
No
@@nenadcubric2663 yes
@@9MMSWORD Benchmade??
Benchmade doesn't make them I've talked to an employee there. I live in Oregon where Benchmade is manufactured
@@9MMSWORD ok
Using a pocket knife for self defense makes about as much sense as eating soup with a fork.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Not everyone has a firearm at all times. Something is better than nothing. I disagree with your statement, but thanks for sharing your opinion. Have a good day.
Some states and countries you cannot carry a firearm, what should they carry a whistle?
Benchmade is garbage, microtech all the way
I have Autocrat.Never fail.g10 better aluminium.Better than Microtech...
I’ll take a Benchmade adanos any day
I'm not even interested in these knives anymore after listening to half of this rambling. SHUT UP AND GET TO THE POINT!!!
Wow, thanks for the constructive criticism. If you dont like the video then just move on keyboard warrior. There are hundreds of other videos. Have a nice day.
@@OzarkPursuit7883 I did move on after I suffered through half the video, you're welcome
Who buys a knife and takes it home, puts it under a microscope and proceeds to get upset at a not so symmetrical grind. Lmfao. I watch reviews to see people using it and so I don’t have to read cause Im lazy not for your opinion or personal preference cause I don’t give a shit what you can afford and what you like.
Well for someone that doesnt care at all, you watched the video and spent time commenting on my video. Your funny. Have a good day.
Benjamin
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