There are so many micro tech company haters but I’m so glad they took the time to make these videos. videos like this are so important to new people to the knife world
I was at a gun show recently in VA, so many tables had clones and even without looking for those tell tale signs, you can really feel the difference. Cant explain it exactly but something about the weight, and feel is off. On a side note, the serrations on the cyphers are on a whole other level. Excellent job!
I'm old enough to remember that Japanese cars were considered cheaply made and a bad investment. The Chinese are taking over everything manufactured, knives included. Their production lines are extremely efficient and mistakes not tolerated. All I know is I have a $20 440 steel copy of a $400.00 Microtech that is of D2 steel and it's easy to sharpen and just keeps working.
Very informative video well done! For me I can tell as soon as it’s in my hand, the counterfeit knives just don’t have anywhere near the detail and high grade components. Love these knives!
Agreed but not everyone is willing to drop 200+ dollars on a knife yet let them buy cheap to see if they like the style of knife and if the like it they’ll save for the 200+ dollar knife
@@chefbgordon8892 why support the people who blatantly stole a design, used it for their own profit, and likely assembled by a child labor assembly line in China? Buy once cry once. Microtech warranty is outstanding too. There is nothing good about clones. Period.
And while it may be true that clones will get people interested, there’s also the fact that shady people try to pass clones off as authentic. People get scammed for full cost because they don’t know better. When people buy clones they give the ripoff company their money vs the company that put all thehard work and R&D into the design. I’d rather give my money to the people that came up with a design rather than the people that stole it. If someone thinks a clone is an authentic knife, and the clone is a POS, it could steer the owner away from the brand also. Clones are just trash anyways.
Every one know is buy a fake knife. When send to repair they are trying to receive back a original one. I love your knives Guys but will never give so much money to buy a real one, i live in Brazil, here it will cost one month incoming. Dont forget the people know what is buy on china sites.
Unfortunately, for people in China (such as myself), we don’t have the opportunity to purchase an authentic Microtech. So we have to resort to copies instead, these copies only resemble the looks and functions of the real Microtechs, not the build quality and the toughness (which is why they are sold at below 30$). Most importantly, they were never meant to be exported outside of China. So if you were to get them from China in the States paying the same price, you are definitely getting a fake, and the folk in the factories probably won’t refund you.
I’m not gonna lie. I’ve always wanted a combat troodon. And if I could afford it I’d buy one. But my DHgate clone for 50 bucks is fucking rock solid. I could get 12 clones for the price of an authentic.
And you will be supporting thieves, liars, cheats, and those that hate your way of life. But you'll have 12 fake knives, you can always feel good about that I guess.
For microtech OTF series knives, do I have to use anti rust oil every time if the knife gets dirty or if water gets into the handle after washing the knife after cutting fruit? Thank you.
I have a knife that isnt a micro tech but the quality of it is mind blowing....it has no marking at all but I love it...it was a 70 dollar knife but evrything is CNC very nicely....
Excellent video. I've seen counterfeit at gun shows. Pisses me off. Thats why i buy usually from the manufacturer website. I'm interested in buying one of these. Looks high quality.
Just recently purchased the dirac delta from DLT Trading. Cant wait for it to get here!!! Appreciate this video, as your knives are quite expensive, id be very disappointed to have a fake.
@@mattwalters6834 totally read your comment wrong 🤣 I just bought an expensive Bronze Tanto from there n was Like Fml haha Glad to know i made a good Purchase 👌🏼
Hopefully no one needs to warranty their knife in 12 years or so. I have a 2008 Ultratech, I called asking about paying them to replace the blade and broken main spring. They won't do it because it's too told. So apparently "lifetime" really means "until we change the geometry" or "until we decide it's too old". I distinctly buying a product with a lifetime warranty. I have other Microtechs that old and older that are still operating, so they're still within their lifetime. I've spent thousands on Microtech products and was about to spend more. However, I will NEVER purchase another one of their products again after the girl I talked to told said they can't help me.
Great products. Constructive criticism, be mindful of the audio levels. This one is much better, and I know many are in noisy environments. Do a voice over. All the hard work that goes into your products and what it takes to rise to iconic status. Keep up all your hard work it's appreciated
I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't understand who Microtech was when I first began to collect knives years ago. For some reason, I thought they were on par with MTech and avoided them. I am much more experienced now and just purchased my first (a Combat Troodon from DLT Trading). Wow. This will certainly NOT be my last. Next is the UTX-70, followed possibly by a Spartan. You guys make fantastic tools/weapons and they are worth every penny. Keep up the great work!
Main reason I haven’t gone all in with you guys is warranty. You recently let up on sharpening your own knife, which is nice. But, I can get a replacement blade with Benchmade for $30 (UPDATE: Not anymore. Haha). Sold my UTX-85 because I was too scared to use it as an EDC. Before anyone judges and calls me names, I have $4k in knives. Regardless, $250 for a knife is a lot. Main reason I don’t deal with Spyderco any longer. They don't even offer blade replacements. Microtech does, which while expensive, I appreciate. Spyder trashed one of my nice blades doing a regrind during warranty process and offered 50% off their website prices which is basically street price. Meh. Also, not a fan of Chinese knife.
@@chewbama6285 I actually really like Microtech. I think they have loosened up on disassembling your knife (they offer toolsets now) and sharpening your blade. You are looking at ~$150 for a blade replacement on a Combat Troodon for instance. Cheaper on Ultratech and UTX series. Couple guys left Microtech and started up Guardian Tactical. Amazing action and Elmax blades are $70, which is cool. I used to love Benchmade (still have a lot and am buying more EX: mini Adams, s90v Bugout, etc in the next couple weeks), but they went from $35 blade replacements to a percentage of the price of the knife. Which ends up being insane (EX: $90 for a s30v Bugout blade on a $130 knife!). Don't get me started on their quality control and inconsistent grinds on each side of the blade. The blade centering is a big one people complain about, and I get it...it's oversight. But, you can easily adjust the pivot screw to bring it to center. ZT used to be $20 for blade replacements, but as of last month they are now $40. Still very reasonable to me. I pay the premium up front for service and peace of mind that if I break a blade (however unlikely) or after sharpening, I can get a new blade or parts. TL;DR - They all have pros and cons. Need to weigh out what you are willing to pay, after sale support/warranty, what service you expect, the style of the knife and the application you are using it for (EDC, defense, hunting, fidgeting, etc.). PS, MAP prices for everything are likely increasing this year. I try to offset by buying from places that don't charge sales tax. Check out Northern Knives for a good selection and are a Microtech dealer as well. Plus, they take trades and offer crazy good trade-in values. Ask for Alistair and tell him Aaron sent. you :)
@@Aaron-lx3gz So, did you buy a UTX-85 back again now? ha. I was looking at the new Benchmade Shootout since I liked the HK Turmoil, but decided to go with MT and order an Ultratech. Hope I like it.
@@silverapple2011 You'll love it. UTX-85 is 85% of the size of the Ultratech. I find the UTX-85 too small for my liking, and I don't even have big hands. Sorry ladies. :( I am currently rocking an Ultratech and a Dirac Delta. I love the action on it better than my Combat Troodon, which I sold. And its $150 cheaper!
It's funny this video popped up. I stopped in a pawn shop and saw a combat troodon, hellhound blade for sale for over $300. The owner tried to argue when I said it was a clone. I even showed him my Ultratech to point out the quality difference and he wouldn't back down. He also had a couple Infidels that looked suspect as hell. People will go to great lengths to make a buck...smh.
I had tried to buy microtech troodon from bladehq and they didn’t have any in stock then I tried to order one from knife enter and they were out of stock I tried to order Dirac delta also out off stock so I ordered a clone from DHgate it arrived 2weeks later and it a awesome knife very high quality this will do until I get get a real microtech if they ever get in stock!
Great video for those new to Microtech collecting, to see what t look for. Unfortunately, it's also a great training video of counterfeiters, to learn how to make better fakes...
purchased mine from a gun show and thankfully she's real! I go often and know the guy as he owns a higher end blade store in the area. So many fakes out there though!
Awesome videos! Keep them videos comin! Those counterfeits aren’t even nearly as durable as an authentic Microtech either. I doubt those counterfeits have the amazing blade geometry that Microtech’s have. You really get what you pay for....Great work on both knives and vids. I’m thinking of getting a UTX85, I love my Ultratech. I’m a firefighter/paramedic and use my knives pretty hard. All of my Microtechs have held up great! If anyone is on the fence of getting one, you won’t be disappointed if you do. 🤙
Hey I'm just going to take a guess and say you didn't get it from Blade HQ... I avoid them at all cost they are so so sorry and take forever always the last to get anything in stock.. If you did get it at Blade HQ because it came in there first it's a one in a million
It seems odd to me that these videos focus on the cheapest end of the fakes, and not the dh gate sellers selling much higher end copies closer to 50% of the price of a gen. Id like to see a comparison of some of the higher quality fakes
oh yeah unless you want it to be fake. Blade HQ is a reputable knife company i have bought couple Microtech knives from them in the past, they are an authorized Microtech dealer seller. When you buy a knife from any company do the research make sure they are an authorized dealer on the knife brand name their selling.
4:15 it’s revealing that you actually say it’s difficult to tell the difference and then make a guessing game over it. The bloated price of your products keeps your competition in business. When it gets this close, it’s time to consider the exclusivity you had is a thing of the past.
So how about a used microtech I seem to have found a microtech “Eagle claw” with a chipped blade he explains in his armslist add that it originally cost 400 bucks
Quick question based on this, there is a knife shop here is south Africa: blades and triggers, can you guys confirm that they buy microtech knives from you?
The problem for people like me , who like in east Eu countries is import prices . Generally speaking ,due to the country economics we can not affort one of the permium knives . So we shoot for 50-100 $ range knives . The problem starts when we want that thing deleivered , not only does it take about a month but usually we have to pay over 70-80 bucks for it . So we end us with paying sboule the price and when you convert to out currency (BGN for me ) i pay more than 3x for a knive . So we start looiking for other ways of getting them and we buy knock offs.
@@silverapple2011 no, that's not the company's property, It's yours. They can remove the licensed markings but they can't just destroy your property because it's a close imitation of their product
DHGate has great quality clones. I’m poor so that’s where I can get my Microtech knives. I’m so impressed by the price for the high quality of the clones of DHGate. I got a Dirac and a Halo clone, they’re amazing. It makes me wonder why yours are so expensive when they can make it for so much cheaper. Even if they had better blade steel it still would only be like $85-$100 for a clone. The the clones are $54 off DHGate with AUS 8 steel. So impressed by the quality.
Im sorry I bought troodon mini I love your knifes but could never justifying paying over 100 for the knife I bought from a chinese store I love my counterfit knife it works and looks great the price is a issue and so i bought a copy Iove it
I guess one way to keep from buying a fake, is to buy straight from the manufacture, or from a dealer that the manufacture will have on their genuine website. Though buying straight from Microtech will absolutely assure you that you will be getting a genuine Microtech knife.
So I really wanted the Borka / Marifone combat troodon when it first came out bc it looks like the coolest OTF I've ever seen. Problem is it's $5,3000 and who TF would pay that. I did pay $55 for my damn near perfect clone in aluminum and D2 steel and F'N LOVING IT!!😈❤ The silly part is that the action is far more smooth on the clone than my genuine. That purchase spiraled me into buying 10 other Microtech clones and I don't regret it for a moment. Every single one I've disassembled and reassembled for cleaning and sharpening and all function flawlessly. I really like the Halo 6 ones, just wish I could figure out a way to put a pocket clip on it 😩
Microtech Knives, Please tell me that not all Microtech LUDT models have the blood groove on the blade bought 2 new LUDT each from a reputable authorized Microtech dealer, 1 of them is full tactical black partial serrated blade M390 steel dated 12/2019 S/N 16311 and the other is red with black serrated blade dated 05/2019 S/N 11456 204P steel. Ray said in this video the LUDT knife that doesn't have the blade groove is a counterfeit so i think hes incorrect on this one not all LUDT have it especially in the newer LUDT models.
Not to be rude you make a good knife but pricing over about $800 or so is a bit extreme. I understand a well made product and it having a price tag to reflect it but to try and do what rolex and other watch companies have done by jacking their price up to make their product be more rare to own and in turn makes the name a more notable name but if you really want a knife in every person's pocket the price would reflect that. I mean case knives are well made and last a lifetime and they are nowhere near this expensive. I would own tons of your knives and other big brand knives if the price wasn't so inflated. Again not hating your knives, you make a great knife ❤ example- I own an expensive assault rifle and a cheaper one and they both fire the same and both run great with proper care so if I knew that in the end they would be the same I would have never bought the really pricy one to begin with. They have both lasted many years without any issues. So the cheaper one is completely fine and still amazingly built
@@SyntheticCompany no they are saying that's a really really super low serial number I have otf microtech's that have serial number 1 0 1 8 2 6 you should be suspicious if the serial number is that low i think he's saying
There is also no blood groove on the new ludt. At least there better not be as I have 6 of them and they all came from Microtech officially licensed retailers direct from Microtech list of authorized dealers.
I've noticed some sellers on eBay listing clones, they don't say they are Microtechs but the advertise a picture in their listings that shows a box and card with your name on it. Is this something you guys watch for and report to eBay to have removed or is it a lost cause? If I sent you the sellers names would anything be done or would it just be a waste of your time?
Thanks for the video man! I honestly had no idea, I genuinely thought I was purchasing real microtech knife from Wish and always wondered how they got away for selling a lot cheaper but now i know! And just so guys know their getting much better in their clones! Was very hard to tell at first as they changed a few a things but after careful review their is a few dead giveaways! I will try to post a video soon for you guys to see and will post a link for you! Cheers from 🇨🇦 Ps I don’t think I can actually order the real deal in my country hence to why I ordered from wish!!!
I know a guy who bought an $1100 Trijicon ACOG for $80 from Wish. He said he thought it was stolen, I told him it was fake. The part that makes me mad about it is that they don’t advertise these things as replicas even, they try to convince people that they’re the real deal.
I can spot a cheapo a mile off and there are a LOT of Microtech lookalikes out there. Number one giveaway is the price. Secondly is the weight, as the garbage knives weigh so much! If you're looking for a lower-cost OTF try some of those from Germany. I'm still using mine that I got 30 years ago and they work like new. My Microtech Scarab, as much as I love it, fails to deploy the blade half the time, and if the knife is cool at all, forget it. They may have fixed that, it's been 13 years, but I can't bet another $500 on it. I do still love the company though!
Bought one for $50 and threw it away. Too many unknown variables. I also appreciate the work people put into what they do. I paid over $300 for a custom knife because it was made from a bench.
Thats funny. That first one is one I just got in a mystery box from a friend. I have legit microtech knives, curious to see how the fake holds up. Not badly made though.
And what's real funny is they picked the absolute worst clones to compare. I have a fake ultratech and combat troodon. Also have real ones and I PROMISE these guys would be scratching their butts trying to figure out.... Guaranteed . And what's wild is the testing showed the steel on my fakes were d2.. and judging by the edge retention, it's ALMOST as good as microtechs elmax.. their elmax is slightly better, I'll give them that. But if you got a strop, it don't matter.... The ultratech fake has LESS wiggle than the real one..and the combat troodons are about the same.. and that's after using it every day for a year and the real one hiding out in the safe.... And save all that " you gotta have a real one next too it".. I do.. and it's so close I have to keep the boxes to keep track odnthe real ones serial number... So guys if you don't have 300 dollars to spend on an ultratech , scoop you a good clone... They are 99% the knife you would get from microtech
Maxace medusa 2 Ia way better then this it has a m390 blade Less blade play then microtech and better aluminum for the body and titanium inlays or zirconium or timascuss and it costs 300 bucks
Excellent Video. Microtech makes the best autos. I have 13 Microtechs in my collection, My favorite is my purple Combat Troodon. All mine are authentic as they were all purchased from Blade HQ.Best way to get a genuine one is through an authorized dealer.As a former machinist I know quality when I see it.
Well... I honestly bought a few knowing well that they were cheap clones. Looking at it as a "try before you buy" type deal. After the few, I'm ready to drop real money on a halo mini(if they exist still).
I have just recently procured a L.U.D.T. from one of the verified dealers on the MT site which should legitimate and I never thought to question it's legitimacy until this video or the part 2 video. My L.U.D.T. (135 - 1T) does NOT have a Blood Groove and the blade markings really don't look like they're laser etched but more like they're printed but they are indeed smooth across them. Can anyone verify that the newer L.U.D.T. (135 - 1T) doesn't have the blood groove?
There are so many micro tech company haters but I’m so glad they took the time to make these videos. videos like this are so important to new people to the knife world
#1 way to know it's counterfeit: they include a screwdriver so you can actually fix it.
I purchased 3 top of the line replica microtech knifes and very hard to tell the difference,for $500us the real ones better be perfect
True about adding the tool to take them apart
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣FACTS
The star wars bounty hunter copies are near perfect besides the wore finish. Go for that one guys 😂. No one wants to pay $300 a knife.
Stick with the originals folks. Spammers and fakes suck.
These videos are crucial for newer knife buyers! Thanks!
"If you think you're getting a good deal, it's probably too good to be true" Ain't that the damn truth 😂😂😂
My God, how awesome would your life be working for Microtech!😍
I was at a gun show recently in VA, so many tables had clones and even without looking for those tell tale signs, you can really feel the difference. Cant explain it exactly but something about the weight, and feel is off. On a side note, the serrations on the cyphers are on a whole other level. Excellent job!
Hey, it's the guy from the ad I saw! I noticed that III on his left hand. Oorah.
I'm old enough to remember that Japanese cars were considered cheaply made and a bad investment. The Chinese are taking over everything manufactured, knives included. Their production lines are extremely efficient and mistakes not tolerated. All I know is I have a $20 440 steel copy of a $400.00 Microtech that is of D2 steel and it's easy to sharpen and just keeps working.
The bevel of the screw???? The engraving?
If these are the “huge” differences, I’m definitely sold on the counterfeit.
The Blade Steel is soft, so trying to resharpen it will be a nightmare.
That is the main reason to purchase original.
The steel on my clone sharpens just fine. And why would you capitalize “blade steel”? I’m pretty sure I know why , but just want to hear it from you.
Microtech knives are AWESOME!!
Very informative video well done! For me I can tell as soon as it’s in my hand, the counterfeit knives just don’t have anywhere near the detail and high grade components. Love these knives!
What do you do when you get a counterfeit visa warranty dept? They just keep it? The owners don’t want them back?
Enjoyed the video, I think all company’s need to do videos like this and get clones out of peoples pockets!
Agreed but not everyone is willing to drop 200+ dollars on a knife yet let them buy cheap to see if they like the style of knife and if the like it they’ll save for the 200+ dollar knife
@@chefbgordon8892 why support the people who blatantly stole a design, used it for their own profit, and likely assembled by a child labor assembly line in China? Buy once cry once. Microtech warranty is outstanding too. There is nothing good about clones. Period.
@@1800moonSugar what makes you say that lol
And while it may be true that clones will get people interested, there’s also the fact that shady people try to pass clones off as authentic. People get scammed for full cost because they don’t know better. When people buy clones they give the ripoff company their money vs the company that put all thehard work and R&D into the design. I’d rather give my money to the people that came up with a design rather than the people that stole it. If someone thinks a clone is an authentic knife, and the clone is a POS, it could steer the owner away from the brand also. Clones are just trash anyways.
Every one know is buy a fake knife. When send to repair they are trying to receive back a original one. I love your knives Guys but will never give so much money to buy a real one, i live in Brazil, here it will cost one month incoming. Dont forget the people know what is buy on china sites.
Unfortunately, for people in China (such as myself), we don’t have the opportunity to purchase an authentic Microtech. So we have to resort to copies instead, these copies only resemble the looks and functions of the real Microtechs, not the build quality and the toughness (which is why they are sold at below 30$). Most importantly, they were never meant to be exported outside of China. So if you were to get them from China in the States paying the same price, you are definitely getting a fake, and the folk in the factories probably won’t refund you.
I’m not gonna lie. I’ve always wanted a combat troodon. And if I could afford it I’d buy one. But my DHgate clone for 50 bucks is fucking rock solid. I could get 12 clones for the price of an authentic.
And you will be supporting thieves, liars, cheats, and those that hate your way of life. But you'll have 12 fake knives, you can always feel good about that I guess.
For microtech OTF series knives, do I have to use anti rust oil every time if the knife gets dirty or if water gets into the handle after washing the knife after cutting fruit? Thank you.
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I'd wash the blade with a oil and wipe it off LIGHT oil, hopefully a year later this helps
I have a knife that isnt a micro tech but the quality of it is mind blowing....it has no marking at all but I love it...it was a 70 dollar knife but evrything is CNC very nicely....
The 2 best ways to identify:
1. They are 90% cheaper.
2. The warranty dept. answers the phone.
Right its a shame how much micro tech gouges
@Khalid Gibson ok scammer
Facts and stay screwing people
Someone said that they were worried their Benchmades were counterfeit cause they came sharp.
@Giant Fatberg 🤣🤣🤣 Hinderer too!!! Sadly, the fake Hinderers are better than the original!!!🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for the video , love my microtech knives!!
Thanks for uploading really cool to see, this might help us out in the future, thanks
There are some REAL good looking counterfeits. You can't tell the difference at a glance like these cheapo ones
Excellent video. I've seen counterfeit at gun shows. Pisses me off. Thats why i buy usually from the manufacturer website. I'm interested in buying one of these. Looks high quality.
Great vid, thanks for re-affirming what I hoped I knew and adding to it.
Just recently purchased the dirac delta from DLT Trading. Cant wait for it to get here!!! Appreciate this video, as your knives are quite expensive, id be very disappointed to have a fake.
Dont get fooled, buy from a authorized seller like Blade HQ.
Or GPknives
@@mattwalters6834 so did i just get scammed from Gp knives ?
@@treyrahman no, I’m saying that Blade HQ AND GP Knives are legit.
@@treyrahman I’ve got a few knives from GP Knives that were the real deal.
@@mattwalters6834 totally read your comment wrong 🤣 I just bought an expensive Bronze Tanto from there n was Like Fml haha Glad to know i made a good Purchase 👌🏼
I’m ready for the merch release already!
Hopefully no one needs to warranty their knife in 12 years or so. I have a 2008 Ultratech, I called asking about paying them to replace the blade and broken main spring. They won't do it because it's too told. So apparently "lifetime" really means "until we change the geometry" or "until we decide it's too old". I distinctly buying a product with a lifetime warranty. I have other Microtechs that old and older that are still operating, so they're still within their lifetime. I've spent thousands on Microtech products and was about to spend more. However, I will NEVER purchase another one of their products again after the girl I talked to told said they can't help me.
Damn…good to know
Great products. Constructive criticism, be mindful of the audio levels. This one is much better, and I know many are in noisy environments. Do a voice over. All the hard work that goes into your products and what it takes to rise to iconic status. Keep up all your hard work it's appreciated
Not all LUDTs have the blood groove. Check out pics on any reputable online dealer.
The more people watch these the more they will buy the counterfeit's lol
Are these blades sharp enough to cut off arm hairs with EASE
I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't understand who Microtech was when I first began to collect knives years ago. For some reason, I thought they were on par with MTech and avoided them. I am much more experienced now and just purchased my first (a Combat Troodon from DLT Trading). Wow. This will certainly NOT be my last. Next is the UTX-70, followed possibly by a Spartan. You guys make fantastic tools/weapons and they are worth every penny. Keep up the great work!
Main reason I haven’t gone all in with you guys is warranty. You recently let up on sharpening your own knife, which is nice. But, I can get a replacement blade with Benchmade for $30 (UPDATE: Not anymore. Haha). Sold my UTX-85 because I was too scared to use it as an EDC. Before anyone judges and calls me names, I have $4k in knives. Regardless, $250 for a knife is a lot. Main reason I don’t deal with Spyderco any longer. They don't even offer blade replacements. Microtech does, which while expensive, I appreciate. Spyder trashed one of my nice blades doing a regrind during warranty process and offered 50% off their website prices which is basically street price. Meh. Also, not a fan of Chinese knife.
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What’s brands do you like? I loved spyderco for a long time, but their prices have been outrageous lately. Same with benchmade.
@@chewbama6285 I actually really like Microtech. I think they have loosened up on disassembling your knife (they offer toolsets now) and sharpening your blade. You are looking at ~$150 for a blade replacement on a Combat Troodon for instance. Cheaper on Ultratech and UTX series. Couple guys left Microtech and started up Guardian Tactical. Amazing action and Elmax blades are $70, which is cool. I used to love Benchmade (still have a lot and am buying more EX: mini Adams, s90v Bugout, etc in the next couple weeks), but they went from $35 blade replacements to a percentage of the price of the knife. Which ends up being insane (EX: $90 for a s30v Bugout blade on a $130 knife!). Don't get me started on their quality control and inconsistent grinds on each side of the blade. The blade centering is a big one people complain about, and I get it...it's oversight. But, you can easily adjust the pivot screw to bring it to center. ZT used to be $20 for blade replacements, but as of last month they are now $40. Still very reasonable to me. I pay the premium up front for service and peace of mind that if I break a blade (however unlikely) or after sharpening, I can get a new blade or parts. TL;DR - They all have pros and cons. Need to weigh out what you are willing to pay, after sale support/warranty, what service you expect, the style of the knife and the application you are using it for (EDC, defense, hunting, fidgeting, etc.). PS, MAP prices for everything are likely increasing this year. I try to offset by buying from places that don't charge sales tax. Check out Northern Knives for a good selection and are a Microtech dealer as well. Plus, they take trades and offer crazy good trade-in values. Ask for Alistair and tell him Aaron sent. you :)
@@Aaron-lx3gz So, did you buy a UTX-85 back again now? ha. I was looking at the new Benchmade Shootout since I liked the HK Turmoil, but decided to go with MT and order an Ultratech. Hope I like it.
@@silverapple2011 You'll love it. UTX-85 is 85% of the size of the Ultratech. I find the UTX-85 too small for my liking, and I don't even have big hands. Sorry ladies. :( I am currently rocking an Ultratech and a Dirac Delta. I love the action on it better than my Combat Troodon, which I sold. And its $150 cheaper!
It's funny this video popped up. I stopped in a pawn shop and saw a combat troodon, hellhound blade for sale for over $300. The owner tried to argue when I said it was a clone. I even showed him my Ultratech to point out the quality difference and he wouldn't back down. He also had a couple Infidels that looked suspect as hell. People will go to great lengths to make a buck...smh.
I had tried to buy microtech troodon from bladehq and they didn’t have any in stock then I tried to order one from knife enter and they were out of stock I tried to order Dirac delta also out off stock so I ordered a clone from DHgate it arrived 2weeks later and it a awesome knife very high quality this will do until I get get a real microtech if they ever get in stock!
Great video for those new to Microtech collecting, to see what t look for. Unfortunately, it's also a great training video of counterfeiters, to learn how to make better fakes...
purchased mine from a gun show and thankfully she's real! I go often and know the guy as he owns a higher end blade store in the area. So many fakes out there though!
Awesome videos! Keep them videos comin! Those counterfeits aren’t even nearly as durable as an authentic Microtech either. I doubt those counterfeits have the amazing blade geometry that Microtech’s have. You really get what you pay for....Great work on both knives and vids. I’m thinking of getting a UTX85, I love my Ultratech. I’m a firefighter/paramedic and use my knives pretty hard. All of my Microtechs have held up great! If anyone is on the fence of getting one, you won’t be disappointed if you do. 🤙
Are they sharp enough to cut off arm hairs with EASE?
Man. I can’t wait to own a Bounty Hunter. “Pre-Ordered” one on KnifeCenter. And have notifications on at BladeHQ for it. See where it arrives first.
I'll sell you a bnib one.
Hey I'm just going to take a guess and say you didn't get it from Blade HQ...
I avoid them at all cost they are so so sorry and take forever always the last to get anything in stock..
If you did get it at Blade HQ because it came in there first it's a one in a million
@@BuffaloNickel9 i got it at BHQ 😂
It seems odd to me that these videos focus on the cheapest end of the fakes, and not the dh gate sellers selling much higher end copies closer to 50% of the price of a gen. Id like to see a comparison of some of the higher quality fakes
You see they didn't talk much about the halo one and they didn't want to give away there secrets because the copies are getting so good
What do you guys do with the people’s knife’s send in counterfeits?
I ordered an ultratech through bladehq, I shouldn’t have to worry about it being a fake should I ?
oh yeah unless you want it to be fake. Blade HQ is a reputable knife company i have bought couple Microtech knives from them in the past, they are an authorized Microtech dealer seller. When you buy a knife from any company do the research make sure they are an authorized dealer on the knife brand name their selling.
4:15 it’s revealing that you actually say it’s difficult to tell the difference and then make a guessing game over it. The bloated price of your products keeps your competition in business. When it gets this close, it’s time to consider the exclusivity you had is a thing of the past.
I love my counterfeit knives. There is no way I’d purchase the authentic ones.
I don't want to buy a fake off wish but I've been waiting for 6 months for a ludt. When do u see them back in the stores
Thanks
So how about a used microtech I seem to have found a microtech “Eagle claw” with a chipped blade he explains in his armslist add that it originally cost 400 bucks
What serial numbers do you not issue? 556, 762, 223, 454, what else?
Always buy from a authorized MK dealer! Always! My UltraTech: BladeOps! My LUDT: Nashville Tactical Lounge. My MSI: Microtech gear site.
Quick question based on this, there is a knife shop here is south Africa: blades and triggers, can you guys confirm that they buy microtech knives from you?
The problem for people like me , who like in east Eu countries is import prices . Generally speaking ,due to the country economics we can not affort one of the permium knives . So we shoot for 50-100 $ range knives . The problem starts when we want that thing deleivered , not only does it take about a month but usually we have to pay over 70-80 bucks for it . So we end us with paying sboule the price and when you convert to out currency (BGN for me ) i pay more than 3x for a knive . So we start looiking for other ways of getting them and we buy knock offs.
enjoyed the video huge microtech fan boy
been waiting for this
The guys in china/ YangJiang making excellent work. Good quality for less money!
Please drop another batch of LUDT'S. I want one.
One of them won't have a comically overpriced pricetag
Very interesting information.
Thanks for sharing
People sent those in, how did you keep them? Good video, thanks!
Since they are counterfeit, they have to keep them because they're basically illegal. They then destroy them, or whatever.
@@silverapple2011 no, that's not the company's property, It's yours. They can remove the licensed markings but they can't just destroy your property because it's a close imitation of their product
You have to pay for them to ship it back to you, I think $35, which is more than the knife is worth, so people just let them keep it.
DHGate has great quality clones. I’m poor so that’s where I can get my Microtech knives. I’m so impressed by the price for the high quality of the clones of DHGate. I got a Dirac and a Halo clone, they’re amazing. It makes me wonder why yours are so expensive when they can make it for so much cheaper. Even if they had better blade steel it still would only be like $85-$100 for a clone. The the clones are $54 off DHGate with AUS 8 steel. So impressed by the quality.
Mr. President, The Button.
Im sorry I bought troodon mini I love your knifes but could never justifying paying over 100 for the knife I bought from a chinese store I love my counterfit knife it works and looks great
the price is a issue and so i bought a copy Iove it
I guess one way to keep from buying a fake, is to buy straight from the manufacture, or from a dealer that the manufacture will have on their genuine website. Though buying straight from Microtech will absolutely assure you that you will be getting a genuine Microtech knife.
So I really wanted the Borka / Marifone combat troodon when it first came out bc it looks like the coolest OTF I've ever seen. Problem is it's $5,3000 and who TF would pay that. I did pay $55 for my damn near perfect clone in aluminum and D2 steel and F'N LOVING IT!!😈❤ The silly part is that the action is far more smooth on the clone than my genuine.
That purchase spiraled me into buying 10 other Microtech clones and I don't regret it for a moment. Every single one I've disassembled and reassembled for cleaning and sharpening and all function flawlessly. I really like the Halo 6 ones, just wish I could figure out a way to put a pocket clip on it 😩
Microtech Knives, Please tell me that not all Microtech LUDT models have the blood groove on the blade bought 2 new LUDT each from a reputable authorized Microtech dealer, 1 of them is full tactical black partial serrated blade M390 steel dated 12/2019 S/N 16311 and the other is red with black serrated blade dated 05/2019 S/N 11456 204P steel. Ray said in this video the LUDT knife that doesn't have the blade groove is a counterfeit so i think hes incorrect on this one not all LUDT have it especially in the newer LUDT models.
Did they make a 0644-06/2004 model
What's the significance of the number 556?
Very good. I love microtech.🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🏾🙏🙏🏾🙏🙏🙏
What about blade HQ. I just ordered a Micro Ultratech.
Blade hq is reliable
I just ordered one of them I hope I don't get in a fight. Great videos
Not to be rude you make a good knife but pricing over about $800 or so is a bit extreme. I understand a well made product and it having a price tag to reflect it but to try and do what rolex and other watch companies have done by jacking their price up to make their product be more rare to own and in turn makes the name a more notable name but if you really want a knife in every person's pocket the price would reflect that. I mean case knives are well made and last a lifetime and they are nowhere near this expensive. I would own tons of your knives and other big brand knives if the price wasn't so inflated. Again not hating your knives, you make a great knife ❤ example- I own an expensive assault rifle and a cheaper one and they both fire the same and both run great with proper care so if I knew that in the end they would be the same I would have never bought the really pricy one to begin with. They have both lasted many years without any issues. So the cheaper one is completely fine and still amazingly built
do you guys really skip over a "556" serial number for every model? can you elaborate on that?
I was thinking the same thing, wouldn't every run that went that high or beyond have 556 in the sequence?
@@SyntheticCompany no they are saying that's a really really super low serial number I have otf microtech's that have serial number 1 0 1 8 2 6 you should be suspicious if the serial number is that low i think he's saying
There is also no blood groove on the new ludt. At least there better not be as I have 6 of them and they all came from Microtech officially licensed retailers direct from Microtech list of authorized dealers.
Really interesting video. Looks like the buttons suck on every counterfeit. None of them were even close to being as well machined as the real ones.
I like the fake ones they work good and are very affordable.
I've noticed some sellers on eBay listing clones, they don't say they are Microtechs but the advertise a picture in their listings that shows a box and card with your name on it. Is this something you guys watch for and report to eBay to have removed or is it a lost cause? If I sent you the sellers names would anything be done or would it just be a waste of your time?
Thanks for the video man! I honestly had no idea, I genuinely thought I was purchasing real microtech knife from Wish and always wondered how they got away for selling a lot cheaper but now i know! And just so guys know their getting much better in their clones! Was very hard to tell at first as they changed a few a things but after careful review their is a few dead giveaways! I will try to post a video soon for you guys to see and will post a link for you! Cheers from 🇨🇦
Ps I don’t think I can actually order the real deal in my country hence to why I ordered from wish!!!
Send me the money and I’ll order for you and mail it to you myself. Everyone deserves the chance to own an authentic Microtech!!!
Haven't seen any new videos with Jason lately.
No trademark on the real or fake 85??
Is legal to sell clones? What can we do if we see clones for sale?
Uh yeah common now its illegal to sell clones from the original that is patented
If you see a clone tell them that it is illegal to sell clones..... grab them and just take em .
I know a guy who bought an $1100 Trijicon ACOG for $80 from Wish. He said he thought it was stolen, I told him it was fake. The part that makes me mad about it is that they don’t advertise these things as replicas even, they try to convince people that they’re the real deal.
I have owned 2 fakes and 1 original.
I have to take them ALL apart monthly to clean them.
I like the OTF function, but hate the maintenance.
I can spot a cheapo a mile off and there are a LOT of Microtech lookalikes out there. Number one giveaway is the price. Secondly is the weight, as the garbage knives weigh so much! If you're looking for a lower-cost OTF try some of those from Germany. I'm still using mine that I got 30 years ago and they work like new. My Microtech Scarab, as much as I love it, fails to deploy the blade half the time, and if the knife is cool at all, forget it. They may have fixed that, it's been 13 years, but I can't bet another $500 on it. I do still love the company though!
There are still some light clones. I have a UTX-85 clone that’s as light as the original
Excellent tutorial guys. Very informative & I'm sure it opened up a lot of eyes about counterfeiting. Keep up the great work.🗡👈👊🇺🇸👍
Great Video. Thank you for sharing.
Bought one for $50 and threw it away. Too many unknown variables. I also appreciate the work people put into what they do. I paid over $300 for a custom knife because it was made from a bench.
Bahahaha ok
Do you sell to Canadians?
You didn't help much. I have a 2018 halo 6. The retractor, is it aluminum? Says pat pending 01/2018 on bottom 106 usa
Is Blade HQ reputable?
Yes! They are one of our dealers
Thats funny. That first one is one I just got in a mystery box from a friend. I have legit microtech knives, curious to see how the fake holds up. Not badly made though.
I"m so sick of counterfeit "everything". Its gotten to where I'm afraid to buy anything at the gun shows or online.
And what's real funny is they picked the absolute worst clones to compare. I have a fake ultratech and combat troodon. Also have real ones and I PROMISE these guys would be scratching their butts trying to figure out....
Guaranteed . And what's wild is the testing showed the steel on my fakes were d2.. and judging by the edge retention, it's ALMOST as good as microtechs elmax.. their elmax is slightly better, I'll give them that. But if you got a strop, it don't matter.... The ultratech fake has LESS wiggle than the real one..and the combat troodons are about the same.. and that's after using it every day for a year and the real one hiding out in the safe.... And save all that " you gotta have a real one next too it".. I do.. and it's so close I have to keep the boxes to keep track odnthe real ones serial number...
So guys if you don't have 300 dollars to spend on an ultratech , scoop you a good clone... They are 99% the knife you would get from microtech
Do you recall where to get a good clone?
Maxace medusa 2 Ia way better then this it has a m390 blade Less blade play then microtech and better aluminum for the body and titanium inlays or zirconium or timascuss and it costs 300 bucks
Can I still get a halo still. Had an ultra tech for 2 years. Every website shows not in stock
Hey! Stay tuned to our social media for updates!
Excellent Video. Microtech makes the best autos. I have 13 Microtechs in my collection, My favorite is my purple Combat Troodon. All mine are authentic as they were all purchased from Blade HQ.Best way to get a genuine one is through an authorized dealer.As a former machinist I know quality when I see it.
Where are they in stock? 🤷♂️
Sad part is nowadays you won't find one of their knives at an authorized dealer either
Is Smokey Mountain Knife Company a Authorized seller ?
Yes I believe so.
pretty sure
Well... I honestly bought a few knowing well that they were cheap clones. Looking at it as a "try before you buy" type deal. After the few, I'm ready to drop real money on a halo mini(if they exist still).
What’s your website for purchase?
Our knives are available through our authorized dealers! Head here to find a dealer near you: microtechknives.com/find-a-dealer/
That tiny bit of extra detail just doesn't justify the 1000% price increase. Especially when they're all made in the same Chinese warehouse 😂
Literally said all parts machined in house
I live in Fletcher and only buy from the factory store.
Thanks guys. Great video thanks for sharing what real and what’s fake. This helps us a lot. Thank again.
I have just recently procured a L.U.D.T. from one of the verified dealers on the MT site which should legitimate and I never thought to question it's legitimacy until this video or the part 2 video. My L.U.D.T. (135 - 1T) does NOT have a Blood Groove and the blade markings really don't look like they're laser etched but more like they're printed but they are indeed smooth across them.
Can anyone verify that the newer L.U.D.T. (135 - 1T) doesn't have the blood groove?