JoyCon Connection Problems! Can It Be Fixed?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.พ. 2017
- The Joycons seem to be having connection issues as shown by Gamexplain. The connection seems to be interrupted by our body or distance from the unit. This doesn't seem to be the whole story since the signal strength outlined in the FCC Filings seem to be strong enough to penetrate tissue.
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So...basically...has anybody tried turning it off and on again?
I just thought of that too! Turn it off, then on...BUT DON'T attach the joycons to the Switch. Hopefully they should remain in a high-powered state. I mean it's a bandaid solution, and a fix should still happen.
hellsong23 and if that doesn't work just listen to some Cradle of Filth.
I did
Yes and it didn't work
It's been confirmed by two sources, one by a guy named Stealth who broke the news about Zelda being a launch title, and Kotaku that Nintendo's already working on getting it fixed. I should also mention that GoNintendo stated he did the same thing as GameXPlain, covered up the Joycons and put them behind his back, and they still worked fine. So it may just be something buggy with these certain Joycons.
AshXXMayftw I really hope it gets fixed because i dont want to wait to get a switch lol
AshXXMayftw I think the review copy's are kinda the beta test of the console. So they can work out any bugs
It's either a software bug or the shipment wave delivered to reviewers was defective, so it shouldn't be a problem with the commercial Switch consoles, I think.
this is why i like this channel
everyone else is just like "oh no the joycon is broken. i guess we just have to wait."
but he tells us how it might be fixed
Daniel Lee I agree
Daniel Lee I know, so many people are so quick to cry doom and gloom without even analyzing the situation.
And most of the time people hate on Nintendo for no reason.
Keep up the great work, man. Nice to have a level-headed analyst on TH-cam.
That is why this is my favorite channel on youtube. Second smartest tech guy on youtube. Linus is no. 1 but most of his tech bable goes over my head. Spawn wave brings it down to us common folk.
msgsgt agreed
msgsgt agreed!
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I would say third smartest tech guy on TH-cam. Wendell is the smartest of the bunch, and probably by far.
haven't saw the people you have mentioned so for me SpawnWave is THE smartest person on youtube! #teamSpawnWave
First zelda review is out from edge magazine 10/10!
Wolfy Link yessssssssssssssss :)
Wolfy Link link please?? (no pun intended lol)
It is the 19th 10/10 they've given in their 25 years of reviewing
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Very fake news.
Good point about switching from low-power mode. Will be interesting to see if that's in fact the issue. Certainly makes sense.
or maybe it's some kind of airplane mode so the Joycon don't cause interference with anything on a plane and these Joycon are just thinking they are in flight mode I don't know much about this but I think it would make sense
just my thoughts I like to see that the people in the comment section insulting you doesn't bother you very much
that blunty video was garbage first he took a dudes video on it then proceeded to insult him then proceeded to state the wrong cause.
Jardz yeah I do admit his videos are very harsh towards lots of things and yeah it didn't gave clarity to a possible solution.
Jardz Blunty isnt wrong. Spawn Wave is just giving a really good argument on the why behind the what
If you think that's insulting, wooboy, you're gonna hate the rest of the internet.
No, insulting would be saying that Andre's speech impediment makes listening to videos where his voice is predominately featured a chore to slog through. That's an insult.
he insult gamexplain this means war
I didn't think Blunty was insulting at all. He just explained what Andre obviously couldn't.
Thanks Spawn. I love your videos explaining and analysing issues and then giving possible resolutions. I'm not too worried about the joycons :)
2019 and all my 4 joy cons still have connection problems even after updates
My left joycon is connected but not to the switch and is saying it’s charging (which it is) but it’s not connected to the switch in handheld mode
All in all we love you Spawn and it's because you are natural and knowledgeable. Not to eccentric and just the right balance of fun and charismatic. Thank you
I think yours is the first video about this issue that makes me relieved. You cleared a lot of things up for me, thanks for that!
I hope you're right
Glad to hear the pro controller doesn't have this issue! Hopefully they get it fixed! :)
That makes it sounds like a OS type problem telling to power up and down. I agree I don't see it being a defect in the joycons. Nintendo isn't known for making crap hardware that does not work at all.
I love how u take ur time to try to understand it and with ur background you have an understanding of technology u try to explain what It could be in a simple term and how it could be fixed
ur not like other TH-cam channels just fans of something talking about it
My dualshock 4 definitely looses connection sometimes when I cross my legs and it's deep in my lap. You will cause attenuation to every Bluetooth device when you put an obstacle in its way.
It all depends on how far you are from the console and what other devices are using the same band in the vicinity. The more BT and WiFi 2.4 GHz devices are around you the more errors you get.
If someone doesn't experience this it only means their area does not have a lot of other signals. The antenna in regular controllers is also much bigger than the one in the tiny joy-con.
I think you've hit the nail on the head buddy. This is precisely what I was thinking the problem is and I do hope Nintendo jumps on this immediately and also is vocal about their remedy and doesn't remain silent like they usually do!
Darth Praxis I think they already recently announced that they know about the issue and are working on fixing it.
Fernando Banda Yeah, can't find any official press releases about that. Been looking. And "official word" from somebody on Neogaf does not make something official. Not saying that's what you are saying. ;)
My point was that Nintendo needs to get right out in front of this problem and address it quickly and very publically so that rumors don't go flying around out of control and cause idiots to panic and potentially harm the Switch's reputation.
This video is really encouraging! Thanks Spawn Wave!!
I think this channel will have 75k subs by end of year. You're really good dude. Especially for how many game news choices there are.
The JoyCon should be wired when connected because:
1. You are able to sync them to the console by connecting them, this would probably the easiest when they are wired so they can tranfer data
2. You are only able to enter flight mode when you have them connected to the console (at least that is what I have seen in a video by some youtuber, sorry can't give a source :( ). This would be because they disable all wireless capability when flight mode is turned on (including Bluetooth) so the only way you could continue playing would be if they are wired when connected.
Dennis I was thinking the same thing about flight mode.
Playing while in Airplane Mode is a very valid point, also if they need to update the Joycon firmware (for instance to fix an issue where they aren't connecting *cough*) they would need a direct physical connection, so i'm sure they thought of that and it's most likely part of the charging connection, similar to USB).
yes that is true but you are not required to have airplane mode during the whole flight (at least now), only during takeoff and landing so you can use bluetooth while in-flight
maybe they tried to make the console safe for planes so they made the Joycon connection weaker and it bugged out so that the joycon think they are in airplane mode when they aren't so maybe in the patch it will be fixed
Hopefully day one patch can fix it!
Jack Moffat . Yeah ninty said they would put out a patch day 1..
Nikki K doesnt mean it will fix the joyconz
Oof
Great information as always. I can't imagine me using the joy con in that manner but I can see how this can be troubling for some
Glad you posted this, it gives me a little info and hope that things can be fixed through software updates. Still possible it's hardware issue, which would suuuuuck, but at least I know that it's possibly a software issue.
This is why you are THE BEST! Thanks for the knowledge, man! :) great video!
Thank you for this video mate. Been wanting to hear your thoughts on this issue.
I don't know anything about bluetooth and am not tech-savvy, so this is a very interesting video to watch, and makes me more confident that this is an issue that will be fixed.
A nice educated guess as to what the problem is. Very nicely done. I too believe the low power has some kind of effect while in docked mode.
as per usual, best explanation I've heard thus far.
Thank you for being so informative.
Hopefully they will fix it at or by launch! Awesome video as always!
I feel like I get smarter with every Spawn Wave video I watch
I haven't have any problems with the joy cons but I will test it with battery running low to see what happen
The Know mentioned that they and Eurogamer have not experienced sync issues. Also Switch Force hasn't so maybe the other people having issues did get it stuck on this low power state. This is the best theory for the issue that I have heard since it could explain the inconsistencies on having the problem
Thanks Jon! Hair looks good!
great thoughts Jon, I hope you are right, and you probably are. either way, if Nintendo fixes this day 1, we will probably never know exactly what is going on, just update to get em fixed.
Ah, I was waiting on your input, Spawn.
Spawn Wave you're awesome.
I want to play with arms by my side, so I hope this is fixed.
You will have your arms around your Arms.
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What you say makes a lot of sense when you take into account the specs. Hopefully it's as easy as low power setting being stuck on, and a patch or firmware update fix.
Let assume that the BT antenna sits on the left side. Could it be that the joy cons stay in wireless mode but that only the left goes into low power mode. ???
Also HD rumble could have a negative impact
Nice video SW. Yh i hoping it'll be fixed with the update or it's just a bad batch either way hopefully it'll be sorted by launch or shortly after.
Wow. Nice hypothesis.... Could be true.... And you're right. During events people were doing random stuff with the controllers
Great video!
can't wait to see everything taken apart.
interesting theory!
My thought would be if they are in a low power when attached to the system would that also be the case in the charging grip
I can't remember where I heard that it only affected some units sent to reviewers. Have you seen that info?
wow good analysis this makes sense
Spawnwave is the real MVP.
It makes sense that when the Joy-Cons are attached to the system, they still are wirelessly connected via Bluetooth, but they use lower power for transmission to save battery. Then if there's a software problem which causes them to not "switch" back to higher-power mode when they are removed from the system, there you go.
Rational speculation SWM. Good insight as usual.
well ps4 has two different settings for controller wireless connection usb and pure bluetooth and i did experience weird issues with bluetooth but none with usb and this is while i had usb not connected if that makes sense
God I love this channel
Isn't radio wave power measures in watts(/milliwatts)? Cause if not, than everything I've known about radio for years was wrong!
my PS4 controller doesn't work well, i have had nothing but problems and i had used multiple PS4 controllers and consoles and they all had connectivity issues.
Bought a switch last month. Issue still not fixed. Replaced the Joy Cons and the switch under warranty and the new ones still have connection issues. 6 years and no progress… Sad
the 4 dbm doesnt tell us much about the wave length, which is a lot more important at how it is blocked by water or other things
has the joycon battery been tested yet? i think nobody did it yet. yes - we see that at full specs - the switch does last for about 2h30 before needing to recharge. but what i want to know is how about joycon batteries?
I'm really interested to know why one Joycon seems to be worse with this issue.
I can understand a Bluetooth device struggling to run when held behind a persons back. I have Bluetooth headsets that drop connection when listening and having my phone in a pocket diagonal to the main ear piece. However in open air they are perfect for about 20/30 metres.
God I hope you're right... this could really effect 1-2 Switch since you're supposed to be able to play that around a room
I really hope you're right, and it gets fixed.
Hardware kinks are to be expected. Glad that this issue is now known and can be fixed before the release date.
Yeah when i heard the news about the joycons it really made me worry because i'm not planning getting the pro controller and would like to play with the joycons on the grip. I actually not gonna have a game at launch but most likely few days later.
This could just be a coincidence. But I've only seen people reporting this with colored joy cons. I haven't looked terribly far into this issue. From the little bit I've seen, I've only seen it with the colored versions.
My joycons suddenly stopped syncing wirelessly. They connect fine on the console, I've updated the controllers, the system and disconnected before powering off and all it does STILL is flash green up and down a few times then nothing. It's a used console, but I've had it checked out by a local game store and he told me hardware was fine.
Edit: I had it checked prior to this issue
So is this still an issue when using the JoyCon grip? Also, it's worth noting that the left JoyCon bears the bulk of the issues.
GameXplain mentioned that the same thing happens to the right. People are reporting the left more because that's the controller you use, predominantly, to control the character on-screen.
Ed Mx I know the right one is still effected, but even the GameXplain video showed that the problem was worse on the left one.
makes sense. cheers.
Thanks for another very insightful video. I hope there is a patch at launch if not I have faith Nintendo will get the issue resolved soon. Regardless I am looking forward to picking up my Switch at the midnight launch.
I REALLY hope this is something that can and will be fixed extremely easily.
I (UK) got a Switch for Christmas. 3 years after this video. I have these same issues still.
Perhaps Nintendo uses non-omnidirectional (line-of-sight, aimed) antennas instead of the usual bubble technique to save power?
what can u say about the cnet video about the switch kickstand?
My joycons just disconnected and reconnected four times in less than a minute, I took it as a sign to get back on my phone. I wasn't covering the joy cons, I took off the protective case on the screen, and it didn't help. Eventually I got them working for two seconds and saved the game, then forced a shut off.
Edit: It has not been fixed in three years, I got my switch a month ago.
Buyed myself a new pair yesterday to play with mario party, they keep disconnecting behind my back or farther then 5meter
Yeah but solid snake
Mr.Video God fuck Arlo. I don't get why people like that guy so much.
He's a Muppet, what's not to like.
what's wrong with him?
What..? What's wrong with Arlo?
It's not a meme, it's an inside joke of sorts.
I agree, it sounds like a low power state issue which should be correctable via a firmware update. I'd be shocked if it weren't fixable via a software update either at launch or right after.
After my original controllers started to drift, I have gotten 3 new pairs, and EVERY pair except the original has conection issues. The last one I got was 5 years after release, and it still isn't fixed smh.
Nintendo said they would put out a patch day one to fix it 🙂
Nikki K Source?
Nikki K source
Sauce? Yum!
(I kid).
Nikki K no they didn't. Nintendo have only said the day one patch is for eshop and other things. Fixing this wasn't mentioned
Eh, just overheard it from some other guy lol, and anyways i was just readingthe articles about the joycons, not all of them are having issiues, the ones that were sent to the press in NY have not had any problems. I think people are making a big deal out of this. PS3 controllers the syncing issiues too at launch. Im personally worried too much about it, especiailly since it looks like the de syncings are not a universal phenomenon
Had this problem with my Switch that was 3 days old. Right side joycon disconnecting constantly. After lots of videos saying update console and controller software the thing that made the difference was turning off my ps4. We had played the Switch consistently since Christmas and only just turned on the ps4. Then when we went back to the Switch the ps4 (and controller was still on) we started having issues with the joycon. Only thing I can think is that the Bluetooth was interfering with each other.
I just don't get this. How on earth can this not have come up in all the nintendo tests before launch. Thank goodness I've ordered the Pro Controller so won't be relying on joycons.
I so totally agree with you bro
my left joycon is a joke it's OK when using handheld but when it's docked it keeps losing sync
I fixed the right joystick and it now disconnects if it’s not within half a meter of the console
Is there any game on swtich where you need to play behind your back ? if not then it seems i will not have problem with Switch
I also thought it low power state issue as well. To tell you the truth who the heck plays a game with the controller behind their back anyway or cover up the controller while playing a game. I think some people are nitpicking at the Switch and coming up with silly things.
TECHSTACKER Covering the controllers, at least a little, should actually be extremely common with detachable controls that use motion controls. People haven't found this out because they were experimenting. They did because it did happen a few times during gameplay.
Worked!👍👍👍
Bruh, Its feb 27th and Nintendo just released a vid on TH-cam today about first time setup and they said that it would give you a update as it booted up
Nintendo gave these units out because they wanted to test out any kinks. Smart move Big N!
true :)
actually, there is evidence the joy con was giving connectivity issues at one of the Switch events. The person was playing Mario Kart 8 deluxe on stage when it became difficult for them to turn.
Are there any desync news from Japan?
I hope it gets fixed :)
... or people could play holding the controller normally. Not behind their back or bear hugging it. normally. why didn't we hear about this during the various switch demonstrations?
Anybody knows if this problem was solved? I want to buy a used Switch and I need to know if this was solved
It’s supposed to be
How I wish I had one to do some real testing (who plays with controls behind their back????)
Just FYI Linus Tech Tips went to an event in Toronto and the joycon had trouble connecting from across the small event stage
This needs to be shown to Blunty!
I just got a switch, in Europe, and I still have this issue. Haven't seen many people mentioning it though.