These Fix Joy-Con Drift Forever, But It's not Worth It
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2024
- So we can now kill Joy-Con Drift, but it's not worth it for how the sticks actually feel to use.
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I've switched all my Joy-con controllers' sticks to these and I've had absolutely no issues, I even have a pair of the older batch and the only difference is that they didn't come with a dust cover and they're not as smooth feeling as the newer ones.
They've worked very well for me, I never noticed they require more force to use at all, what I will say however is that the surface of the sticks is very smooth and made of a harder rubber than the original sticks, so they were a bit slippery for me, it's nothing some stick covers can't fix though. It also seems like they have slightly less reach than the originals but it's nothing game ruining, you're not going to use Joy con controllers at an FPS tournament anyway.
I'm surprised the force was so noticeable for Alex, I didn't even know it was there, but to be honest I wholeheartedly recommend them, the only tricky part for most people would be installing them, which wasn't an issue for me but only because I like tinkering with these things anyway.
Hello, could you give us an update, how have the joycons worked until today?
@@ALFA6Mzero They're still working really well, I think they have gotten a bit looser but still not as loose as the original sticks. I haven't had any problems at all.
@@tubguinace thanks!!! 👍
People who says they are messing a perfectly fine analog. RECALIBRATE YOUR ANALOGS BEFORE PLAYING WITH IT AGAIN. YOU NEED THAT
I personally like the sticks and started using the JoyCons even more than before. I also find the smoothness (if this is a word) better. Moving the sticks from there to max results in s smooth moving dot in system settings, while a working and used old one without drift already hopped around. If you want the sticks to be "snappier" you can simply recalibrate them and not max out the possible movement. This moves the max position inwards. I personally like them and won't go back.
That's because hall effect sticks are much more accurate, even aside from their smaller deadzone, and lack of drifting. I noticed this especially with their pro controller.
I got these day one because they just so happened to release exactly when my joycons started drifting
Personally, I don’t think the extra force required to push the stick is a big deal. The way I see it, it’s not worse, it’s just different. Hard to tell whether you’d like them or not until you have them in your hands though, so if you’re not sure then probably wait until a v2 comes out or something
Should also mention that they get less stiff over time. They still require a bit more force than a regular joycon but after months of using them, it’s not as harsh as it was out of the box
@@STOPMOTIONNATION101
Sounds better imo, I like having some grit and resistance with sticks
I think he's exaggerating with the amount of force and how it might affect your playing. It's maybe just a little more force, but compared to a standard controller like a PS4/5 or xbox or Pro controller, it's a lot less. So is he saying he has problems with a Pro controller also? I don't really get it,.
I totally agree with you guys,
Thank you for giving us the whole story; that's actually helpful for forming the picture. Hope GuliKit will keep refining until they've got something great.
Even measuring the force required! What, is this Digital Foundry now? ;)
Such a strange occurrence. I installed mine last month and thought they felt similar and not at all stiff.
Maybe this video’s host just got a couple of pairs that were stiff, which might usually be uncommon for these replacements?
The joys and cons of Joy-Cons
The joys and pros of Switch2 procons
My Gulikit HAL sticks feel smooth, not hard or sticky at all, so I can't directly relate to your issues. But I've had one major issues with these sticks which could be related to how you experienced them!
The issue is that the surface felt noticeably more slippery! My thumb kept sliding on the surface which made accurate movement hard and made the required force feel worse. Maybe this is why you had such an issue with them, Alex? It sounded like that when you described your thumb slipping off the stick when attempting to dash in Smash. After I put a cap on the stick it felt beautiful! I've had no issues with the sticks with the caps on.
So I would advise against buying these stick if you plan to use them plain without caps. Unless they change the surface material to something better they are a no-buy! But if you have stick caps for joy-con then the sticks are amazing.
I got these for my drifting joycons and I actually really like them. I didn't consciously notice any difference in the stiffness but I found them much easier to use for fine control of movement, like trying to get Link to walk slowly in a really specific direction, or aiming arrows. Maybe it's because I'm a clumsy, heavy-handed idiot, but I love these. I want to go measure the resistance on mine now to see if maybe I have a different batch.
For everyone: this has nothing to do with the techoligy itself. Sega already used this in there Dreamcast Sticks and they are easy to move (sometimes to easy imo, but that's just me)
So they messed up badly with this replacements.
well they arent sega
I think it’s somewhat tougher to do with the joycon sticks smaller more compact design and form
We know, he said that in the video.
I have seen quite a number of people posting about them changing their perfectly fine sticks to these but ended up messing up their joycons. A lot of Switch owners are so impulsive. If it's working properly, leave it alone.😅
"if it's not broke, don't fix it" was a saying I heard a lot when I was little. Seems it's rarely said now these days. Then again it doesn't help that manufacturers make these to break and difficult to repair.
@@hikaru9624but what if it is broke 💀
@@Itcouldbedust well then you try to fix it or get it repaired/replaced.
While i agree with you, i also dont really care ehat other people do eith their joycons. If they wanna switch them, go right ahead. Maybe they wanted a little challenge to try on a weekend, or something might have been broken.
I switched mine despite the joycons working fine because I barely used them. Before the gulikit replacements, I used the joycons for a minimum moon run of Odyssey back in 2017. At least now, despite them not being perfect, I just don't have to worry about them drifting at all and it incentivized me to use the Switch in handheld mode more often. Although, most of the time, I sill use the pro controller even in handheld mode. I probably didn't need to replace the sticks at all but it is mainly for prevention before it actually became a problem.
My first set of joycon started drifting after 200 hours into BOTW. So I thought it would be appropriate to replace my current set with these Gulikits when I started TOTK.
The joycons are just not comfortable to use long term. I don't know how people can use them for that many hours. I have used my joycons way more since I replaced it with the gulikit one but the pro controller is the way to go. They are 100x more comfortable and does not really have drifting issues as bad as the joycons.
Eeh, the stiffness is fine and gets better over time.
When I bought brand new joycons, they actually felt solid as well. I shaked mine, no noise anywhere. I played with mine after a month, and shaking it causes a little noise, idicating things got loose. After 6 months, they just started drifting lol. I play a lot of Splatoon to give context. There's quick flicks in the game as well, for squid roll, so I understand the importance of certain movements.
Then I got these, and replaced all 4 sticks on two pairs of joy con. They felt stiff like you mentioned, and it was a little weird I admit, but after a week it felt much better. Like a brand new joycon, that doesn't make a noise when I shake it. Give it more time, really wear it down. I have them for 3 months now, zero complaints.
Only thing I see here is Alex flexing his National Geographic Cat encyclopedia and official copy of Windows 95.
As a Greek viewer, at first I started wondering why oh why Alex has the "Do not touch the marble (Μη εγγίζετε τα μάρμαρα)" sign on the background. Then in the video Alex talked about stick friction (hence the sign 🤣clever and funny) and now there's this fear building into me that the Parthenon might start drifting one day. Amazing video Alexander the Great Joycon Savior! Let me know if you're visiting and need a tour guy!
It's my headcanon that wario is a Macedonian Jew and a distant grandson of Alexandrio
I am glad you gave the sticks every reasonable chance and tested them using a scale to better make the point. Thanks, Alex.
It's funny how the sticks that touches the contacts physicaly have less pressure to put in as to play with Magnets they doesn't touch anything.😅
I guess they added a stronger spring into it. Better save than sorry as the spring will loose its force over time. Also magnets have more weight, which probably more than evens out the friction of the contacts.
Had these since they were released and use them all the time for Splatoon and basically any game. For me it didn't really feel weird to me. I also wonder if there is a break in period that needs to be considered
Same for me. I only install them when the original sticks fail and the only one I have a GuliKit control stick in is a left green Joy-Con, and that feels great when playing Splatoon 2 and 3.
He gave them several months of break-in time. I think that's more than fair.
Yeah, the gulikit sticks do have way more resistance compared to how loose the official ones are. The drifting is also not completely gone because there can be some calibration issues depending on the quality of the gulikit sticks themselves.
You need to calibrate them anyway. Sensors are soldered and there is a chance the position is off. This also is required when using the old style controllers. Electronics have tolerances and that is what the calibration is for. After calibration I found the GuliKit sticks perfect and much smoother than the old ones. The old ones felled bumpy from zero to max (visible in the settings menu).
They straight up tell you to calibrate them as soon as you're done installing them. it's a required step of the process.
that's not true. The joycon sticks aren't capable of drifting. Joycons have a built in deadzone that even games with deadzone settings cannot overcome. Unless you have badly drifting joycons, you can't even get regular joycons to drift because of this deadzone
If you use their pro controller, that's a different story but even then, hall effect sticks don't drift.
@@HugoStiglitz88 Ähm, the weir is not just on the lower part of the movement. The graphite just gets abused more in the lower sections, because those ranges are used for any movement. The outer sections (max movement) will get effected later. So you need a max dead zone setting. Adding dead zone also means allowing less resolution and therefor less control.The graphite chips inside the sticks potentiometers are also traveling along the contacts and acting like sand paper, when the stick is moved there. All non hall effect sticks will drift over time. Even the ones from the 90th, but those have more chunky and more durable potentiometers, while "modern" ones are cheaply made crap designed to work within the warranty range only.
To be fair, I've noticed big differences in the force required in my stock joycons. Some would make like what I'd describe as a spring stretching sound and those i noticed were stiffer than the looser quiet sticks. They never got any better. Eventually started drifting like the others after years. I bought a pair of the hall effect joysticks to replace the next pair that starts drifting.
I have had the same sound! Really irritating when playing games quietly I my room. Swapped out for a hall effect one, super quiet and smooth.
Going to swap out the second one when I get the part!
I did get these around day one when they first came out and the only downside i noticed was the slippery material they used on the joystick itself, other than this i have enjoyed the new sticks for nearly a year now with ZERO issues and i use them every single day. I would 100% recommend! :)
Thank you for sharing, bummer you had that experience! I bought a kit back in January this year and finally got around to installing them in a pair of the new pastel color controllers that came out and honestly besides maybe a bit more noise I don't notice any real difference between those and net-new controllers. Maybe I got lucky or maybe I just haven't used Joy-Cons enough to notice the differences.
I will say though that the first controller I bought that used the Guikit sticks (the KingKong 2 Pro in June 2022)) had the muddiest feeling sticks I'd ever used. Ended up returning them and was hesitant to use other Guikit controllers in general until the 8bitdo Ultimate came out.
I swear to god, if Nintendo's next console has this huge of a problem with stick drift, I'm not buying it...
... until I inevitably give in a couple months down the line, because I'm a Nintendo fan.
I have had these in my switch for months now and I dont have this problem at all. This is why I always take what I hear from media outlets like you guys with a grain of salt, its not even close to being as bad as you make it out to being.
I agree in a lot of instances, but nah, my joycons were unplayable. I have no reason to lie about this
@@dziankolack9331 you probably just got defective ones, I just got a second pair for my gf and they are fine too 🤷♂️
For what it's worth, I installed hall sensor joysticks in my joycons and I didn't even notice any extra force needed and they have made life with the Switch a WHOLE lot better.
I suspect Gulikit sent you a pair from the first batch by mistake. I say this because I bought these last week, installed, and they work great. They feel exactly like the old joysticks. Not tight or needing a break in period.
So a bit of stick resistance in your two sticks (out of how many produced) caused you to shit on the product? You’re the type to get offered 1,000 dollars to help your financial situation and complain that it wasn’t 10,000 dollars. This review had a lot of good information but seemed very biased and trash just because you couldn’t have your cake and eat it too
This channel is literally called Nintendo Life ofcourse they're gonna be biased😂
if you want to go the extra mile to bring the story home, maybe reach out to them, let them know your findings, and see if they can send a QA tested pair? maybe their issue is that some of them suck but some are great, and they thought they had ironed that issue out, but in fact hadn't
kind of like that the stick feels a bit firmer, but the bigger issues for me with these sticks is that they leave a tiny little gap for dust near the top of the stick module and they don't have nearly as much travel as the OEM sticks and I don't feel like I get as fine as control.
but if you have drifting sticks and want a solution that won't prompt you to replace them with OEM grade over and over, i do recommend trying out the sticks on at least one set of joycon if you can spare them. if you only have one set, just leave them be until Gullikit makes a 2.0
Thank you for your contributions to science, Alex! 👨🔬
It is worth it, if you know what you're doing.
"It's not worth it coz the change feels bad to me". Erm.. try testing them against a joycon with stick drift and then tell us which one you prefer. I'm sure the halls are far from perfect, and I appreciate hearing about the downsides, but you're saying to avoid them because of something so damn negligible.
As a Greek based in UK, I do appreciate that background, Alex. 😂
I installed these a few months back. I am not a fan of the rubber material they use, however overall it is fine to live with as they will last a long time.
Just did the mod last week and both sticks are working fine!
Thanks for the honest unbiased opinion. I haven’t made the change and don’t plan to for the foreseeable future (I followed your Joy and Pro con cleaning guide so since I can clean them easily I have no need to replace the sticks) but this is good to know in case something comes up in future.
You’ll inevitably experience the drift no matter what. With gulikit, you’ll never drift
Love these. didnt wanna throw away my skyward sword joycons cuz they were drifting and replacing the sticks with these hall effect sticks worked perfectly! i havent experienced any issues after calibration
It's crazy that people in the comments do not know that nintendo repairs drifting joycons for free regardless of warranty.
I know about that program and I am mad about Nintendo. They don't repair the JoyCons. They just reset the breakage counter, by replacing the crappy sticks by new crappy sticks, while the controller and internal connectors itself weir down due to the opening/closing cycles. Also keep in mind that with the end of the lifetime of a product the drift repairs will stop. Then you have drifting controllers where the internals are so rotten and damaged already you have to dump then. The tiny plastic threads are not deigned to be opened every once in a while. Same goes for the flat ribbon cable. Each "repair" is stress.
Too bad they here only ordered to repair the problem for free. Imagine this would be an airbag in a car. Here the company would be ordered to properly fix the issue and not just replace the known to be failing component by the same crappy replacement part.
@@guidomersmann9744 It sounds like you've been through alot and it has affected you in a bad way but not everyone has your results from joy cons. I have had my switch for six years and I play it literally everyday, my left joy con has been repaired once and has been fine for 2 years. I wash my hands before I play, I don't know if that helps.
@@Alt_Aly I bought both of my switches day 1 and mostly played with a pro controller. I mostly played docked and only played Mario+Rabidds and AnimalCrossing mobile and they just started to drift recently. Thanks for the hygienic tips. Very offending.
They wont repair your limited edition joy cons, theyll send you a different joy con.
Personally, I like the toughness of mine, but I experienced a bit of a drift the other day, not sure depending on what. Recalibrated the whole thing and everything’s being ok so far
I've been looking at these for a while now, thanks for reviewing them!
Nice to see an honest an impartial video on these sort of things
Meh I replaced mine with these and yeah they are a little more stiff than the original but you get used to them really fast. Haven't had any issues with them.
Gonna buy more to fix my other joycons.
They feel nice to me, seems like more of a personal issue.
My joycon fix is going to target and abusing their no questions asked return policy. Buy new ones, return the old ones, get refund
That reminded me of videos I saw of the results of other people (presumably) abusing Amazon returns to upgrade their PC parts for free and then other people end up getting scammed but Amazon wouldn't believe them
@@kbhasi Amazon is too risky for me. That has a paper trail and can be traced back. Target, whenever I do something like this, I pay with cash and return it at a different location (can return to any target), get cash refund . Shit I did it with my 3ds that broke once back in the day but they scan the serial number so for anything with a serial number you have to swap them (for the 3ds i just swapped the back plates on the two units, then returned the broken one)
0:48 why does this guy look like Narrator from the Boys
Seems like a cool product, but yeah, not for me. I have quite a few Joy-Cons, including O.G. ones from 2017, and none of them ever had drift, so I kind of feel like I won the lottery.
Watch as I now jinxed myself and my Joy-Cons all start to drift...
There you have it. You just have so many JoyCons, that the weir spreads over them. There is no "I don't get JoyCon drift". "When you get JoyCon Drift" is the question. SwitchLite users are the real loosers there. They need to send in the entire console for a fix. And after that the timer just got a reset.
PSA: If your Joy-Cons are working fine, don't try "fixing" them yourself. You could just mess up your controller.
If your Joy-Con is drifting, in most territories Nintendo will fix it for you FOR FREE.
You don't need to waste your money on things like this.
Nintendo propaganda to get you to keep buying their OEM POS controllers.
I have to say, I got them too some months ago and I quite like the increased resistance the Sticks give. So I guess it's just a thing of prefference. It is not a dealbreaker to me in the slightest.
I agree, for the price I thought they would be much better but they are not. One of them makes click sounds and they are both stiffer and not as smooth moving as the original joycons.
That's a bad batch.. LMAOOO ... I got a new fresh batch and its super smooth .. its just a tad bit stiffer than the original but I much much prefer it since the joycon movement is so small , I have more control with stiff stick
I disagree completely with this video. I think they are a bit stiffer than the stock joycons, but I don’t find it as a problem at all. I changed over to these sticks about a month ago and was quite surprised how easy the install was. I think the stiffness is a SMALL price to pay for joycons that will (hopefully) never drift again 🤷♂️
Was very close to buying these few weeks ago
Thanks for the heads up!
I installed these on both of my joycon and found no issues with stick resistance, it was perfectly comfortable to use for me. The drift was also fixed instantly. However, during installation the ribbon cable connecting the joycon rail to the main board somehow stopped functioning and now my left joycon has no lights and the SL/SR buttons don't work. I would recommend these sticks but only if you're not deeply emotionally attached to your joycon and are prepared to risk breaking them or have them feel slightly different.
This is because the rails ribbon is pinched! It happens when the battery bloats, you can install it so the ribbon falls underneath the battery holder and it helps prevent ribbon pinch. Unfortunately it's preventative and won't fix the ribbon after it's broken.
I love it when we dive right into things.
With no waffling
When my original sticks started drifting I got these and haven’t had any issues. They do feel a little different but hey feels a lot better than drifting sticks.
These GuliKit joysticks are absolutely amazing and feels just like the OEM, don't agree with your assessment that it feels stiffer. Fixed the drifting problems, installation requires patience and steady hands.
I bought the kit with two pairs. One of the sticks simply could not be recalibrated no matter how many times I tried. I had to get a replacement and that DID work. So, it's a happy ending, just not right away.
I installed them and I really didn’t I needed to push down really any harder until I watched this and tested the feel. In the beginning the sensitivity of them when it came to moving left and right was quite bad, but after I calibrated them it was all fixed and have had no further issues, and I recommend these.
i like how they feel, beforehand i switched the sticks twice till the ribbon cable to the leds just snapped, which makes the entire joy con unusable since the bt handshake goes through them, so a long term solution with a nice rigid feel for me is better overall.
Things are continuously R & D’d for a reason. I’m sure Nintendo was aware of this solution and for whatever reason did not use them. All these 3rd party solutions 9/10 times are not better than the original design
I have two sets of Joy Cons, and over the course of years, replaced all four sticks with aftermarket replacements. When one stick started drifting, I i decided to replace all four with these, and thats what I did.
I thought these sticks were a whole lot like the standard sticks. I never once felt like I had to use any extra pressure, but I also don't have a single Joy Con with standard sticks to A/B these against. For all I know, these findings are 100% correct.
To be clear, I almost exclusively use Joy Cons for Splatoon occasionally playing undocked with a Satisfye grip. I have not played SBU with these sticks.
The issue with the first run was a gap between the joycon and the base leading to an opening in the joycon. I think that's what they changed
Is dude getting paid to say this? Just read the comments on this video these are great and Nintendo refused to do this themselves for 7 years.
Ooh!!! Yes!! I only install those sticks when one has its original Nintendo control stick fail.
Out of the pairs I have, the grey pair that came with and I'll sell when I sell my original Switch has an original Nintendo control stick on the left and an unbranded third-party replacement on the right, then the white pair that came with my white Switch OLED Model is still new and thus still has original control sticks on both sides, and then my green and pink pair has a GuliKit control stick on the left green half and an original Nintendo control stick on the right half.
With the grey one, I noticed the drift when the camera kept spinning around, and with the green one, I noticed that I wasn't able to move the player character down as fast as in the other directions.
I didnt have any problems, but that probably was dependent on the games I play. However, the feel is different, because the GuliKit sticks don't have rubber covers/caps/tops while the Nintendo sticks do, but there seems fo be some kind of rubberised coating instead which doesn't feel as grippy as the latter. Besides that, i feel as though the GuliKit sticks were stiffer than the Nintendo sticks when they hadn't been broken in. Now that the former has broken in, I only feel a small difference.
The stick I have was likely from the older batch (I have one more that I haven't installed) and i have a new 2-pack arriving that would probably be from the newer batch.
Interesting. I don't find them too stiff at all. In fact, I've always disliked the feel of Joy-Con sticks for being too soft, so I find these to be an improvement.
if normal joycon were too soft to you, its normal you find these better... 60 compare to 40 just means the guilikit sticks have 50% more stiffyness.
I agree. If anything this sold me on them haha
I started using the GuliKit Joycon and they feel much better. So in the end I swapped my second JoyCon set and ended up using the JoyCons more often now :D
This comment is after "precision wrestling" with the innards of the Switch. I'm a novice when it comes to opening electronic devices and it took me about an hour and a half to replace the sticks with the Gulikit ones. I didn't bother removing the batteries while disassembling the joycons. I found that the right joycon is more difficult to disassemble.
Control-wise I'm quite fine with how the Gulikit sticks feel. I use some rubber pads over my joycon sticks anyways so it doesn't feel different so far in my experience (tried out Mario Kart, Smash and BOTW).
Overall, an okay upgrade(?) / replacement 👍
My big issue with Joy-Cons isn’t with drift, but with disconnecting now. Smash Bros and other games that require a lot to movement greatly wear them down quickly I fear.
nah i prefer a weird feel to use than to have awful awful drift.
And honestly being used to use the 3ds and stuff i dont care about the feel, as long as i can play without drift in good
Just bought pastel joycons after 5 years of only using the ones that came with my switch, so im tempted to replace the sticks on my original joycons with something, just not sure what. Maybe not this unfortunately.
It's nice to hear a real world take on these sticks rather then trying to sugar coat it for the sake of the video . I'm glad you showed this issue hopefully it can be sorted through a hardware revision later down the line.
Haven't really had any problems with my sticks. But I can try them a bit with smash or some similar games.
I'm also using the cardboard behind the sticks. They also require a bit of calibration as they are a bit overshot when you first put them in.
So in a sense how hard you need to push them also depends a bit on your personal calibration.
Thanks for the honesty!
I liked the hidden message about the marbles, only a Greek and the friends of greece could understand it. As a Nintendo life fan, thank you.
As much as I like the tech and idea of the newd joy-cons, they still have issues. Been playing Legends: Arceus and sometimes when I am running it will just slow down for no reason. It does not feel as smooth as a regular joycon thumbstick. If you need a new pair then these are the way to go but if yours work perfectly fine then I would just keep your regular in until drift happens
I just bought mine this morning, what a coincidence. I’m just done with the drifting. One of the reasons I haven’t picked up my switch.
Can't wait for the iteration of these sticks that work properly so can finally no longer worry about drift
My nephews broke sticks on their Switch Lites so I bought these and put them in their consoles and I actually thought they were pretty smooth. I didn't try dashing in Smash or anything, but they seem to do the trick for games like Zelda, Mario, etc.
Outstanding video. Thank you🙌
Weird coincidence that I ordered them last week
If, someday, my joy-cons get stick drift, I’m just going to let it being replaced by Nintendo for free :p
I have these, bought them maybe a month before Totk. The rubber feels different but overall they are perfect. I probably have the new version or my fingers are different. I feel, except for the rubber, they are the same
i'm glad you posted the video alex as i have been recenly considering buying some. i had heard the there was teething issues at launch so i made sure to not buy them until i knew the issues had been fixed. i will hold off again till i hear of some good news. thanks for the vid, thumbs up from me :)
My assumption is it probably uses parts from their other sticks and those are full sized while the Switch's are only like half height. It may be that adding something like a control freak or scuff cover will fix it from the added weight and height.
Wonder if a fresh application of joystick butter would help them feel better.
Ok thanks for the review it helped me to decide for joysticks
My Saturn and Dreamcast pads still have perfect functionality and they are Hall Effect :) I think they're worth it. personally if I ever need serious control for a game, I'm not going to use a dinky joycon. so for everything else they're wonderful. In fact I never even noticed the extra force required
well i think most people would rather have reliable hall joysticks that r stiff(?) in comparison to buying the analog trash that u have to replace constantly just for the convenience of easier to flick dash also that's one command in one game id say bad argument there's a lot of switch games and some games that stiffness is a benefit for example twin stick shooters or call of duty (if it ever got released on switch) more control and precise aiming for example if u like the analog sticks for that game then have a joy con set specific for that game granted that's seems little excessive another thing i have a switch controller called the nyxi chaos pro it has hall sticks it feels of better quality its like going to china and buying the cheapest xbox controller on the market then buying the elite series 2 the feeling is night and day im talking about the feel of the materials
so far, i haven't encountered drifts on joycons released 2020 onwards. but my joycon purchased between 2017-2019 all have drifts.
I wonder if lubing them with some silicone spray would help?
Just done this upgrade, not really noticed any stiffness in the stick compared to the OEM parts. Could just be the kit I got though, everyone seems to have different feelings with the kits they got.
Over the two months between now and when you installed them, have you noticed any functionality issues (like jittering or unresponsiveness)?
Well, tbh the first problem was you expecting it to be exactly the same as the original one as the way they work is different. For me is like expecting an automatic and a manual transmission car to behave and feel exactly the same
I’m still waiting for my day one switch joycons to start drifting. My ps4 and quest controllers both have drift but the Nintendo gods must just be shining on me.
They aren't perfect but I don't seem to have the same issue. I took my original, day 1 JoyCons that started to drift a few years ago and gave them an overhaul - new LEDs, new battery, new shell, and new sticks. They're like brand new now, and I'm a big fan. I did notice additional resistance, but nothing that prevented me from using them.
And, it's funny - you mention you like the whole ability to slap the stick around. That's what I hate the most about my pro controller. I'll fling it real quick and, next thing I know, Link's facing the wrong direction.
Appreciate your honest review.
I ordered them anyway, hope they improved with the current batch.
My issue is that aftermarket joycons with hall effect are too big to fit in my case. The original ones are becoming unusuable after maybe less than 500hours-ish? They are also limited edition.
Disappointed by Nintendo's quality at the moment. All my Wii U stuff is much older, more used and works perfectly.
Did you end up doing the replacement, and if so, have you had any issues with them after calibration or have they been working fine?
@@GrimTransmission I replaced the worn-out thumsticks on both joycons.
The procedure was well documented but a little finicky. During the replacement, I noticed that the right Joycon's R-Button was broken (which is why it sometimes didn't work correctly), so I ended up buying a new Joycon and replacing the thumbstick right away.
After calibration (which is definitely necessary), everything was working great. No more drift (the old ones became nearly unusable in some games).
Subjectively, the sticks are a bit stiffer, but not to the point where it would have an impact on my gaming.
Definitely I would recommend the procedure.
@@Incoming1983 Awesome, thanks for the info! I had a pair arrive yesterday but i've been nervous about installing them, you've encouraged me to do it.
Also, i've noticed the caps of the sticks can lift off, so if you still have your old/broken thumbsticks you should be able to remove the caps and swap them over. I haven't done that to mine yet so not sure how easily the old ones come off, but the grippiness of the stock ones might make the stiffness of the new ones less of a problem.
Smash has Stick sensitivity options, so those might help too.
While I appreciate your subjective opinion Alex, I just couldn't disagree more. I ordered Gulikit replacement kit from AKNES on Amazon. I had almost cancelled the order after watching your review. Thank god I didn't. A few points of my own subjective opinion:
1. The new joysticks feel far superior. More sturdy, more precise. They don't wiggle around.
2. Are they any harder (stiffer) to move?! Maybe? No idea, I just can't tell the difference rather than they feel more solid.
3. The only thing I agree with is the rubber on top is much harder and more slippery than the original - that's bad for the traction. However, my kit arrived with rubber grip caps which make the whole experience soooo much better, in fact, far better than original.
Please note: my kit seems to not have any clicking or other issues as some people report they had. (lucky me, I guess).
But honestly, I'm super happy with the gulikit and I enjoy playing handheld much much more now.
Truth to be told it's a very subjective matter so, the best is to take a leap of fate and try by yourself! If you hate them then simply return!
Since the Joycon movement are so small compared to full sized analog , I prefer a stiffer stick to be honest ... and yes , I've swapped my Joycon stick .. if anything that I would nitpick , that's gonna be the smooth texture of the stick , its not as rubbery as the original joycon .. but that's about it , personally , I don't have any problem whatsoever .. I ordered it directly from China with our country's online platform (Shopee Malaysia) and it only cost me 15 dollars
My replacement sticks both cause the stick to intermittently input a down input when pushing up. Both sticks did this. I can weirdly adjust my playstyle to avoid this happening by not pushing all the way to the max. Annoying still. What’s worse I completely mangled the shell of my left joycon trying to get out the easily stripped screws. Not recommended, as much or more for the fact that the joycon itself is unbelievably fragile. I build mechanical keyboards for a hobby and I wasn’t prepared for how easy it is to strip a screw in the install process.
Given the size of the Joycons, I think we’ve gotta come to terms with the fact its low profile existing sticks are the only real option, unless Nintendo radically changes how Joycon are designed. Even when compared to something like the Vita, the Switch is built to be compact and thin where that more traditional Vita thumbstick wouldn’t fit.
Can you see if this does anything to do with motion as well.
HoTD seems a nightmare. It starts to wonder off center after a bit. There is a center button at least. Can you see if there is any improvements in motion for House of the Dead remake. Wii motion + motes where better for motion.
These are for stick drift. I don't have that issue. But at least there is a fix for those joycons that do. More joycons can be in the wild with this fix (fix the broken ones) .
Really hope that switch 2 just had Hall effect joysticks from the jump
in my opinion, I'd rather have a slightly more stiff joy stick rather than a drifting stick
Alex do mention literraly not being able to play with them... so even if they will not drift, whats the point if he cannot play anyway.
@@charlestrudel8308 I have done the replacement in 4 of my joycons they are definitely playable
I imagine that an ingame character would barely change directions by using those. Also, Alex mentioned, your thumbs slide off the stick by the amount of force required.
A stick needs to be smooth to react quickly in games.
@@sparkypack I mean the joycon has a crappy stick in general. So if you’re worried about that might as well get a different controller with more travel distance
@@sparkypack these users in this sub thread basically says the normal stick were too soft for them, hence why they are fine with the more harder ones. but its important to not that wouldnt be the case for everyone.
I still dont understand why people dont use the solution of putting a small cardboard square inside the controller that was discovered like 2 years ago… did it to my controllers and they have worked just fine since then and its a lot easier than installing new joysticks
Doesnt work all the time. I did that with mine and only fixed them for a while. Now I have to keep using contact cleaner almost every week to fix the drift temporarily. I already replaced sticks one, so I'm gonna try with these and see if they work. If not I'm gonna go back to my barely working ones.
Because that is not a permanent solution. That cardboard pushes the case together and increases the force applied to the contacts, so is "fixes" the Joycon drift for now, but also increases the speed of contact degrading.