I Own Two Volkswagen ID.4s! Here’s Which Is Best - Pro vs Pro S
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- Dave is in Connecticut with two Volkswagen ID.4s. In this video he compares the base Pro trim to the Pro S trim. Both cars feature the 77kWh battery pack with 150kW rear motor and are identical from a drivetrain perspective.
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Great job, Dad! I think I’m out of a job with such a thorough comparison. Also big props to my Mom for being a great camera operator. Hope you guys enjoy this deep dive comparison between the base vs the maxed out RWD ID.4. Who wants more videos with my Dad??
Definitely! Great to get perceptions from other age groups and just those that aren’t as heavily into the EV world as you are, because that is who are generally buying these. Really appreciated it when he did the “Thank you EA for the electricity!”, ha, seems like a good guy that enjoys life, appreciate having people like him around.
Love your parents!!! I want more 💗
Yes. Great job.
Thanks Kyle for video. I just wish ELECTROFY AMERICA and ELECTROFY CANADA would build more charging stations everywhere as I had to call EA to find charging stations in Canada and we only have 2 Electrofy Canada stations in Toronto ,Canada's largest city of 5 million people
Your dad brings sanity to the proceedings; no more shredding, 192 clicks, or “gnarly” situations.
3:30 EA's 10 minute grace period means please move your car so others can use your spot. After 10 minutes, you will be charged a parking fee, even if you are on the free charging plan.
SUPER GREAT INFORMATION PATRICK
Decided to get an ID.4 after driving model 3, model Y, Ioniq 5, Kona EV and a used model S. Then had to decide between Pro and Pro S. This video helped me decide to get the Pro S, non gradient. Thank you. Very helpful.
lol 2 years later and he has his own amazing channel!!! Love all those ppl
Dad needs to be in more videos. He's great!
Thanks! I actually just upgraded to the ID.4 AWD in Moonstone; so thinking of making a comparison video vs. the RWD. Maybe I should do this before the Pro S RWD lands in its new owners driveway?
@@dconner9 yes!!!! I’d love a comparison of the two! I have an ID.4 Pro S Gradient AWD on preorder… I can’t wait to get notification that it’s on the ship 😍
Was your dad a car reviewer before? His reviews are incredibly detailed and are definitely the same quality as a journalist working for a really good motoring magazine.
This comment made my week! :). Thx for watching!
Finally! A true detailed comparison from the real owner. Thanks. I ordered mine as an AWD Pro. Almost all "extras" on Pro S are not beneficial for us living in the south. Leather seat with no ventilation plus a black glass roof = a big greenhouse and butt burner that is prone to damage for hails or hurricanes. With the $6k extra, S still doesn't have HUD, 360 cameras, or seat ventilation. So other than the memory seats, power liftgate, and headlight, there's really nothing worth the upgrade.
Glass roof doesn’t get denied by hail. It’s a lot stronger than the metal roof.
You made the best choice
@CITY_HunTeR I am in total agreement with you, that’s why I got the Pro as well.
Got my 2022 VW Pro 82kwt . There is no end to all these goodies but in the end of the day you will need to pay like 10,000 after tax for all this. As a second car RWD Pro is good enough under $50k after tax
@@silvergameofthrone that's about what I paid for our AWD Pro
Unique "Pause" and "Play" buttons: "Break & Accelerate" pedal covers.
// New to me. Cute.
You did a great presentation Dad! Mom handled the camera really professionally. Love Kyle! I was influenced by him and bought the ID.4 and have been taking great road trips.
Excellent presentation! Father and son have similar talents. Keep building the team to cover more vehicles and engineering details.
Grace period means that’s the time you have left until EA starts charging your account “idle time”. If left after the grace period, there is a small fee per min I believe. This encourages ppl to leave the station open foe other users. I think it’s fair. Great vid btw! I love my ProS😍
PS. I really thought I wanted a Y until I saw the ID4 then Kyle’s video. I already knew I wanted a VW. I’m loving mine even more so now when I saw your vid and I know I made the right decision not buying a Y and going for the ProS. Btw, when leasing you get both the fed credit upfront and in CA the state credit as well. No money down for me, zero interest. No brainer. And premium gas in CA is $4.69-4.89 per gal, at least in the bayarea.
How much a month? Please give me a quote. Thanks
So if you start charging and go in a Walmart, but come out over the 10min, they will charge you extra ? Seems aggressive.
@@ag4eng i feel it’s fair. Ppl tend to use the space to park until their heart desire. It’s a nominal fee. Cents per minute. Plus the charging was free to begin with. Unlimited for 3 yrs.
@@ag4eng you get notified on app and it take at least 1 hour to get full charge
I can see where Kyle gets his on screen talent from. Well done Dave! Excellent video from start to finish
Thanks!
EA charges $.10 per minute if the car sits there charging after it reaches the goal plus 10 min . The dealer made sure I understood that.
As of right now the ID.4 plan does not charge for sitting past the 10 minutes. It's not nice to other drivers who maybe waiting for it but there is not a charge currently. I have had mine go over by 15-20 mins but I could see no others chargers being used while I was eating.
Great to see the two side by side. My wife ordered the same color but AWD PRO S model. The black and panoramic roof gives a better look.
I have been watching your and your son's information on the ID4 I will be Picking up my ID4 ProS tomorrow and feel that I have learned so very much about having made the right decision. Watching your instructions has helped this 80 yera old guy know how to drive his new car and know how everything works Thanks for your knowledge
Very good review. Cemented my decision to go with the Pro after watching Kyle do his thing. 4 months later and still no regrets. As we live in Florida the glass roof was never something we wanted, even with the cover.
This video really made my day!! Great job! 😎Thanks Kyle's Dad for the update info on the retro fit pause /play I'll be getting those for my ID.4 AWD next year.🤩
Thanks for the review , great spin Kyle bringing Dad in for the review, kudos on the job, well done, I think he has passed on some great traits:)! This is my 2nd vehicle choice if I don't go w my first choice being RWD Ioniq 5 long range. Great informative review, ID.4 has started to arrive here in Vangroovy BC Canada w the first allocation of units being the Pro S all sold out, next 95 slated for a late Feb delivery. Enjoyed the video
I took a Pro S out tonight for a test drive, I really wasn't expecting much, it was just on the list of cars to try. Does it have the performance of say a Model 3, nope, the big display of the Tesla, nope, did my back scream after getting out of the Pro S, nope, did I order a Pro S after watching this video, yes. For me it was a far more comfortable drive than the Tesla, also, I get mine in 2 months, according to the Tesla site made as I want it I can get a Model 3 next October....11 months. Anyways, thank you for taking the time to put this together, it's exactly what I was looking for in making my final choice.
Thanks! was really looking for a detailed difference in the two. This helped.
Great review. We are looking at the ID4 and was wondering which would be a better deal. Thanks for the detail video. Much appreciated.
Love your reviews. Laughed when you opened the Pro S liftgate. My 2016 Ford C max Hybrid (for $15K) does this!
Great job Sir. I’m seriously thinking of getting an ID 4 up here in Mass
Thank you for taking time to share this video, very helpful!
Thanks for this valuable vedio following you from Jordan.
We have in Jordan
Id4 pure plus
Id4 crozz pro and I dont know which one to buy or to buy Id6 crozz pro or to move to rav 4 as it is 4x4 while others mentioned above are Rwd.
We dont have pro s yet
Can you advice me on what points shall I focus on and consider prior to buyiing
Appreciating your kind feedback
That was great! Thanks for mentioning about the lack of full stop/go active cruise control. I've watched a dozen ID4 reviews and you're the first to mention such an important function for a commuter like me
If you are in stop and go traffic and you have cruise control on, this is the only time the car will come to a complete stop on its own. If you are stopped for a VERY short amount of time (something like 3-5 seconds) the car will start again on its own when traffic starts moving. If the car is stopped for any longer than that, you will have to lightly tap the accelerator to get the car going again in cruise mode.
First, thank you Kyle - your ID.4 reviews convinced me to trade in my top spec 2yr old Avalon for the ID.4 - I’m very happy with the VW.
In NJ, the state incentive is $5000 for the Pro, $2000 for the Pro S (the incentive goes down if the msrp is between $45k-$55k). So for me, the difference between the two choices was a $9000 swing! That made it a no-brainer for me, I picked the Pro. Also, I contemplated waiting for the Pro AWD, but was worried the NJ state incentives would run out before the AWD became available. They indeed did run out - they paid out on the FY2022 EV incentive program in mid Sept. They are lobbying to add additional funding.
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Just wanted to take the time to thank you for this video. Watched the whole thing and I am not in the market right now. Did a great job and looked comfortable doing it.
Did my best!! Thx for watching :)
As a new PRO owner, this was amazing! Thank you so much!
A superb episode. Really useful info , well presented. Thanks, Dad, for a great review.
The headlights are really making the look of the car! They're so cool! Great video, Dave! Keep It up! :)
I didn't even consider the Pro when I ordered my ID.4. I wanted the better headlights, 20" wheels and illuminated grille emblem; wife wanted the red color. Our RWD Pro S w/gradient arrives first two weeks of January and we're super excited to leave ICE vehicles behind. Great review!!
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Great job! Very thorough and entertaining.
Great video. Greetings from Finland. Keep making these great videos for the channel.
Good Job Kyle's Dad (and Mom)!!! Useful video and information!
This was a great review. Very seriously considering buying an ID.4 and really appreciated how thorough, yet practical this review is. Great perspective on things more typical drivers would value. Have an order currently in production for a Mach-E GT PE your son's review played a role in influencing. If I can get swing a good deal on the ID.4, as well as current Ford Edge, I can apply both federal and state tax credits, with a modest down payment and own it outright. With that, we'll be 100% electric and we have enough solar capacity to power both house and EV's so fuel/energy savings very quickly recovers cost of solar system. We both work from home, so cars will charge directly from the panels. I'm really excited.
Great detailed review. I really enjoyed your comparison of both cars.
This was sick! Good review!!
Great, highly informative video. I think Kyle has a high bar to meet. Outstanding review of the ID-4
That’s a sweeping turn - hairpin is sharp. Nice comparison…. Don’t take food off of your son’s table! 😂
This was a great comparison. I’m happy with the reservation of a pro recently. It seems like a overall great vehicle and useable. My mini served its purpose as a training electric vehicle and it might be time to upgrade to the id4. Also perfectly said that it has to make financial sense. Loved all your vehicles so far keep up the good work.
Very well done Sir! You did an excellent job showing us the real life differences between the two models. You've sold me on the PRO-S due to the massaging seat features. My wife and I will check one of these out soon. They are indeed very hard to find.
Thank you. I have been going through which on I should buy. This helped.
Great video Dave, I can see where Kyle gets his good looks from.
Love VW but have a Tesla M3 on order and if the Tesla MY comes out before the VW ID4 we may get that. Live in New Zealand so we tend to get the models a few years later than you guys in the USA.
Now we see from who your son got the talent. Excellent video and proud parents.
Just awesome! Great job!
Great comparison review i seen for ID4 . You did very very good Job i love it and made my decision .
I enjoyed the "upbeat" comparison of the two, two-wheel drive versions of the ID.4. Like father like son -- that baton has been successfully passed -- kudos ! ☺
Wow! Very thorough and well done video comparison! Thanks! So, yeah, we just ordered our "Pro".
I really really wanted the bigger screen, even asked for it if it was offered as an accessory ... VW told me no it wasn't.
There was virtually nothing else in the Pro S that interested me, nothing certainly to justify that much extra cost. I would pay an extra grand or a little more for the bigger screen option, but no, not 5-6 thousand.
The chrome delete and white badging really look great.
Great review, thanks! VW did a great job with the ID.4! Look forward to slightly larger batteries in the near future for longer range, is all I would like to see.
nice video. Can't wait to get mine. Kyle sold me on a pro. I ordered mine on the website.
One of the best and most thorough comparisons that I have seen. I have the First Edition in the same color choices as yours. The 3 free years of EA is nothing to sneeze at. I just went on a 3000 mile trip through the Rockies and Southwest and that saved a pretty penny on fuel. As far as the Voice, I call her Darling normally or Sweetheart when I think that she is nagging a bit.
Love this
We are looking at the ID4. Very helpful video to compare these two models.
Good review/discussion. Just ordered a Pro S Awd. Also from CT, living up in the Farmington River valley area. Guessing I won’t receive until August or later. Looking forward to receiving.
Good job, Kyle’s dad! Now we need part 2 from mom on why she sold her Model Y that she seemed to love so much, for a Macan.
I will let her know about the request :)
Who would not?
Awesome, great video!
Great comparison review. Thanks
Excellent review!
Great comprehensive review. Thanks.
Great review ☺️👍
This was great. I am interested in the Pro S , especially for the improved headlights, turn signal lights.
Really interesting comparison. Buying ours in Europe the specs and options are a little bit different. My wife bought the Pro as a company car, and we speced with packages that we thought was important for us. I realize watching this video that the only thing we really miss when I watch your video is the IQ-light, and maybe (just maybe) the massage seats. We didn't want the glass roof, or the 20" wheels. So what we got was maybe what you in the US would call a Pro S light... 😀
I really agree that that 12" display is really nice (and was included in our package). I also like the head up display which is really clear and helpful and gives me a more relaxed driving.
Plus! Plus! We got the Play and Pause gimmick on our Pro! 😉
Very informative, thanks, Dave
Watched the whole thing. Excellent job
I just rented my first id4 going to sesame street in San Diego. I love your great info on the vehicle and the question is to buy me one next year . Thanks again
I love how happy he is with these cars
Kyle's mom The Real MVP 30:08 😂😍👏🏻
Awesome video !
Enjoying you video 👍🏽 Thank you 🇨🇦
I have the Pro S and all I have to say is this car gonna sell a lot road trip with this car is amazing. Excellent video
Great presentation! I reserved the ID. 4 Pro S and hope to get it before year's end!!
The Pro S is $4500 more not $6000. Don't have to get the Gradient package for $1500.
True. Thx
Gradient package adds what? Sunroof and wheels??
Great comparison lots of good details. Think I would get the pro and if I was going to spend extra money I would spend it on the all-wheel drive.
I was particularly interested and happy to hear that the headlights in the pro throw light just as good as the projector does in the pro s.
I live in the Southwest and UV input is massive in the summertime and so any car with a continuous glass roof is essentially a nightmare for us here, even though the VW does have a powered cover. Also leather seats have the same issue. Park outside for a while and that car is going to be 150° F and you will burn your skin on a leather seat.
Considering all the other safety tech and driver assistance is the same. That base model is a serious good deal.
Great video !! Much appreciated.
Quick question, is there a way to disable the driver assists ie: lane keep assist.
It's my understanding that they need to be turned off in the menu everytime you restart the vehicle.
Nice & complete explanation ❤❤❤
Wooo ... just brought home a Pro S .. trying to learn more about my ID 4 ... let’s wait a second ... you moved over some advanced features of the auto drive I don’t know about to discuss some everyday stuff ... could you do another video about the advanced driver assist auto drive you mentioned ...?
950 miles? I do that in two days on my job. I ordered the AWD Pro S gradient. Hopefully it’s reliable. My wife has a Mach e which has better range. However, free charging tips the scales for me.
I think that grace period means you have to unplug before you got charged for "idling" with plugged in and not charging. You can still get charged for idling although no charge for charging. That's probably designed so no one leave their cars plugged after finish charging and give others chance to charge.
20:00 the Pro S has LED matrix headlights with adaptive projection and corner light where as the other one has just regular halogen lights. I personally love LED headlights on my ID.3
This video is great, I’m just looking at picking one up but want to see does it makes sense to spend the extra if I don’t need too.
Many thanks to you and your wife for this awesome comparison Dave, a very helpful review for those considering various options and trim packages. Did you find the ride more comfortable with the smaller wheels, as the sidewalks appear to be a bit higher?
Can’t really tell the difference in ride quality between the two different sized wheels. Keep in mind they put 21’s on these cars in Europe where the comparison to 19” wheels would be more obvious most likely. Just go w the 19” if you are torn. Higher sidewall should mean fewer pot hole blow out issues, better mileage, better ride and they look pretty darn good.
I think that turn was a cloverleaf. A hairpin is (I believe) when the road does a 180 degree turn; essentially a u-turn road.
Love the car in white. You and Kyle are my favorite car reviewers .. cheers from Chicago
Kyle’s dad (and mom)! Nice car, even nicer reviewers - well done.
The only part that cracked me up was the last bit about the 12” infotainment screen.
You: bugs and lag had been fixed from the 1st Edition ID.4
*tap* *tap* *tap*
No response from screen 😂🤣
Hahah. I did see that. But thruthfully, it does work all the time for me cleanly. So weird that happened. It’s almost as if the little ID.4 was camera shy ☺️
We charge at that Stanford charging station all the time on our way back from NYC to Hartford CT area
Picking my pro s awd this week….can’t wait
Excellent comparison .... Pro for me ... will place my order today ... Only a 6 month wait in LA!!!!
This comparison is VERY helpful. Retired and this would be our first EV. We keep our cars a long time and would take occasional trips. Would probably go for the Pro S. No fog lights?
Great review and comparison! I purchased the 2023 ID.4 ProS a week ago and quite frankly the difference in it and the available Pro AWD was only $3,000 for what the dealer offered and it was well worth the $3,000 for me. However, I would have been able to save up would have $8,000 by simply getting the Pro and I would have been perfectly fine with that. Accordingly, the only thing I wanted was the larger battery. Thus, the glass roof and the extra amenities I received are great benefits. But where I was in the market I wouldn't have been willing to pay for them but because of the limitations of the ID.4 in the market I had to take what I could get, and again for a $3,000 difference I'm glad I went with the Pro S and not the Pro. Thanks again and God bless.
Fantastic review! How is the ride quality with the pro s on 20 inch wheels? Having driven a model 3 on standard 18 inch wheels, it’s a bit stiff for my liking. Wondering how the 20’s on the VW would compare
Dave, Great review and just at the right time. I live out in California and will be putting in an order for an ID4. I have a Tesla M3SR+ but will not be buying another Tesla until they improve car deliveries. After watching your review, I will be going with the Pro S. Was told the price is $3-5K over MSRP for a model on floor (not a choice as there are none in California) and when ordering one it will be MSRP with a 8 month to 1 year wait. What sold me on a Pro S is the roof and seats. Why can't Tesla put in handles and a shade for their roof? Instead they cut out mobile chargers. LOL
Thank you for the great review. I'm trying to make up my mind between purchasing the Pro or Pro S. Was this review based on the 2021 models?
Very nic informative vid
This is ID4 X , not crozz , yes ? Thanks for your fantastic clear explanation, best regards
Don't forget the Pro S also has the hands free trunk feature. You can also close it by kicking your foot underneath in the same way you opened it.
Awesome job! You’re a natural in front of the camera just like your son.
If you don’t mind, how much was the vroom offer? I have reservations for the id4 pro awd and the MY. I personally much prefer the comfort and ride of the id4, but seeing all the crazy high used prices of MY, I’m think the MY might be a better financial decision. I was wondering if the ID4 resale prices are just as good. Thx
Sold my RWD Pro to them for $38k. And the Pro S RWD for $44k.
@@dconner9 there not bad at all, especially factoring in the tax credit!
Great review dad, a great family team. I have a question about the car's range. I've had my Pro S about 4 months. The last few times that I've charged it up to 80% the range has dropped a few miles. It's gone from 240 to now it is reporting 217...what's up?
That exit would be called a sweeper, not a hairpin. Cloverleaf exits are so much fun to take fast. I almost slid off of one a few years back when it was very cold and damp.
I knew that as soon as I said it!!! :). Thx for watching!
I just ran into another white ID.4 at the New Haven EA station last night - it was not your Dad, however! Would've been cool to chat with him 8-)
THIS WAS A SUPER FANTASTIC REVELATION OF THE DIFFERENCES, SIMILARITIES IN A MOST FANTASTIC MANNER SO THAT WE ALL COULD EASILY UNDERSTAND. THE BIGGER SCREEN ALLOWS YOU TO PUT PART OF HAND TO STEADY FINGER ON TOUCH SCREEN. THIS IS FOR ALL INFOTAINMENT SYSTEMS, FOR ALL VEHICLES. LOVED THIS REVIEW. BUT I HAVE ONE QUESTION; DO EITHER HAVE A FRUNK??? GOOD LOOKING SUV'S AND MOM'S SUPER SHOOTING REVEALS BOTH HAVE ALMOST SAME ROOF; JUST PAINTED DIFFERENT. ON WHITE, THE OVERLY PROMINANT COLOR OF MODERN SUV'S, WE CAN SEE THIS DIFFERENCE, BUT HOW WILL IT LOOK, REDISH, DARK BLUE OR BLACK! THE MASSAGING SEATS ARE A GOOD SELLING POINT, AS WELL AS THE LARGER SCREEN. MANY OF MY FELLOW SENIORS CAN'T SEE REAL GOOD, SO BETTER CLEARER GRAPHICS ARE A SAFETY BENIFIT.
No frunks here. No biggie :)