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Wonderful and thank you for your time in teaching us how to hang heavy shelves on brick. I can’t have anyone over right now because of the COVID-19 so I’m going to try it myself. My whole house is made of bricks. Gracias from Mexico 🇲🇽
You're very welcome Suzanna and wow, I'm humbled you've found my vid in beautiful Mexico! Good luck with the DIY and let me know if you've got any questions 👍
Haha, I can't believe that you never pulled the bed away from the wall and instead you stomped and walked all over it! A very informative film with some excellent information about fixings and drilling. Thank-you for sharing. N.
This is a brilliant video! I’m a complete novice who was just quoted £150 from a handyman to put up shelves etc. Needless to say I’m about to learn a new skill!
Some nice tips Charlie, thanks for the video. I like the dustpan idea but I don’t have the hand coordination and grip strength you do as I am getting a bit older. I use a brown paper bag (lunch sack) and a strip of blue painters tape across the back and use that to catch the mess from the drill bit. It works well for me... cheers. Ron
Ron H That's fair enough Ron. A decent technique that I've heard other people using - just need to be careful not to take the paint off. Thanks for the comment!
What a damn good idea. I haven’t drilled anything because I’m afraid it won’t hold and the mess it’s going to create. But the bag idea 💡 I will do that instead of the broom pan. Gracias from Mexico 🇲🇽
Very clear and concise video that would allow anyone to put a shelf up with ease. Bit disappointed you didn't prove it level with a spirit level - always a satisfying moment to a job well done I find!
Thanks Andrew. It was set with the laser level but yes, I guess that would have been good for the sake of completeness. I can assure you it was completely plumb though 🙂
Great tips as always Charlie. Particular like the "wiggle" about abit drill bit. Everyone has one of them "universal" drill bits in their toolkit! I tend not to knock through the wall plug in as you lose support of the wall plug where you need it i.e. Nearest to the wall. Without that when you are hanging items the screw can pull down into the void slightly. If the correct size screw and hole is used you shouldn't really get plaster cracking.
My tip for collecting the dust is to fold a piece of paper or card in half. Pull in the edges of the half not touching the wall and tape them down. Then attach the back to the wall with low tack tape. That creates a pocket for the dust to fall into and you still have two hands free for the tool and/or item being fixed to the wall
It won't be for a while I'm afraid Simone. Drop me an email with a bit of info on the situation (are you hanging them from wires or some other fixing point?) and I'll give you my recommendations.
A quick question whilst I'm here, I drilled 4 holes into an internal solid wall for shelf brackets, but the holes are a bit off even though I marked it correctly. I now need to drill another 4 holes slightly higher and to the left. How far apart do the holes need to be from the first set of holes to avoid weakening the new drilled holes? Also, any advice for drilling holes accurately without the drill bit wondering off? I'm thinking off using a much smaller drill bit first and then working my way upto the 8mm bit that I need. Thank you kindly.
Before drilling into any wall you should always check for Electric wires and Water/Gas pipes, even if it looks from the outside there is nothing there, otherwise a good job.
Great video Charlie it really covers the practical issues so well including your reasoning for each decision. I was just wondering about option 1 - if you recess the plug it would be very close to going through the brick on a cavity wall I think. Is this something you need to be a bit careful of if you have cavity walls in your house? It would be just the sort of thing I would do Lol.
I couldn’t see the list of tools and parts at the end? So useful and I’m going to attempt to hang heavy mirror and I’ll need to buy some of the equipment. Thanks.
This is so useful. I am about to hang solid oak floating shelves to an internal wall. Any tips on how to tell whether the wall is plasterboard or brick? The house is not a new build, probably built in the 60s.
Hi Charlie - great video. Any advice for fitting a similar marble shelf through plasterboard into wooden joists below? Struggling to know what brackets/ supports to choose.
I've only used 7mm brown wall plugs. The dewalt drill bit set in your video doesn't have a 7mm drill bit. Can you recommend an alternative good drill bit set that includes a 7mm drill bit?
Amazing and very detailed video and information. Thank you very much! Do you have the link for the shelf as well? I can find it, but will rather help you by clicking on your links. Thank you again
Is it just pot luck you don’t hit crumbly mortar or the edge of brick and crack it? Trying to fit some heavy duty 6kg brackets to hold a 12 kg keyboard. Pretty old house so chances are the mortars not up to holding 18kg but reluctant to strip it back to brick if I don’t have to. Any advice appreciated 🙏 or do I just pray I hit the middle of a brick 🧱
It depends how strong the mortar is. In my old cottage the mortar is pretty crumbly so plugging in it is problematic. There's no way to know when you're drilling so my advice would be to see if you can get a good fixing in the mortar. Maybe start by drilling a 5mm diameter hole because of you do hit mortar with that you may be able to get a 6mm plug in.
Do you want the hole as deep as possible, or only as deep as the wall plug is long? Just repainted a wall ready for some brackets for shelving which will hold books and so are deceptively weighty.
You basically want to go about 10mm deeper than the screw length, Jeremy. You want that margin of error because there's nothing more annoying than the screw hitting the back of the hole before you've driven it in, which can also damage the plaster at the front. Also worth tapping the plug a bit below the surface so it doesn't crack the plaster as it expands with the screw inside it.
Another good way of catching the dust is to put an open envelope under the place to be drilled and tape it to the wall with low-tack tape. That leaves you two handed for the drilling
Builder tried ti drill holes for me to hang up floating shelves for some bookshelf speakers. Wall is plaster on brick but when drilling the drill bit would veer off left or right making the hole unusable. The holes that he did manage to drill straight just didn’t hold the shelf up and the plug just came out with the screws when even a light weight was put on the shelves! Will this method work?? Thank you.
Another great video thanks. I've just put up a roller blind using top mounting method with battery drill. Bad idea - presumably was going into lintel - took ages. I really like those Fischer UX plugs but they have two versions - one doesn't have a rim and is designed for push through fitting. Any idea what they mean by push through?
we have a 20 kg cabinet to hand that can take additional 10 kg load. The cabinet is held on 2 parallel battens that altogether are fixed by 8 screws to the wall. We were thinking 8 by 50mm fisher plug plus 5x70mm screws, do you think it will do the job for the potential 30 kg? It's a brick wall as well. Any hints on what length plugs/screws for what load in general? thanks for a super useful video, hope we will get ours right :D
Hi Anna. Yes I think that would be a sensible combination, which I'd probably go for too, and I think you're spot on with a 5mm dia screw which presumably is the correct length to just go through the back of the fixing, taking into account your batten depth? I actually sometimes just use brown plugs when fixing into brick, but I only use plugs like this bit.ly/3uuDphL as a lot of brown plugs on the market are rubbish. Good luck with putting it up.
@@CharlieDIYte thanks a lot for reassuring us in our choice. We have access to the fisher ones and ppl seem to be very happy with them so we will go for them rn but will take a note of the plugs you recommend for other projects :) also the batten is 15mm plus 50mm plug should be optimal with 70mm screw I hope :)
Hi, just to check - did you use the longest screw because of the weight of the shelf or because it had a wider head so that (hopefully) the shelf wouldn't slip over the head? Hope that make sense.
From memory I think it was the size of the head, but the larger head size also denotes a larger screw diameter, which I was keen on using to get a really tight fit in the wall plug.
Are you able to do a video how to fit blinds up please? I have roman blinds to fit with the fitting on the top not sides and have hit what I’m guessing is steel from an rsj so struggling to get the depth for a plug to safely hang the brackets. I have searched for videos but nothing really out there so may help a lot of people. Great vid as always
Thanks! If you hit a steel, you want to watch this th-cam.com/video/G1ziRy_OJbU/w-d-xo.html It's a trick I learnt from one of the fitters who works for us 👍
The best option is a detector but they're all quite hit and miss. This is the one I've got amzn.to/4ca3p8i (affiliate link) and it's about as good as you'll find.
Hi there liked the video!!. I wonder if you can shed some light on my method of something I have tried to do please. I wanted to attach a piece of wood (18mm) on to a brick wall. I used red plugs and 4mm screws. I have seen people drill through the wood with a wood bit then change to the masonary bit of the same size (6mm) , then put the plug into the wood , add the end of the screw then tap in with a hammer, the plug goes through the wood piece and so on. the bit I struggle with is trying to get the plug through the wood into the wall - basically the scews expands it a little and hence does not go through. I cannot make the hole any bigger in the wood of course the screw wont hold and i would go out of line overall. Any clues what it is i am doing wrong? thanks in advance
Do you need to do this? It's a neater job if you put the wood in position, drill through into the wall with say an old 4mm hss bit to mark the position of the holes and then take the wood away and drill and plug the wall. If you do have to have the wood in position the mistake you're making is not using a screw that's wide enough in diameter. You need say a 5mm dia screw. That way when you hammer in the screw it doesn't go too far into the plug and drives the plug through the wood. You have to be reasonably aggressive with the first few taps to get the plug going through. You can then go back to the screw you intended to use, to fix the wood in place. However 4mm is quite a thin screw... Hope that helps.
Do you know how heavy the shelf is? I’m thinking of buying a concrete shelf that weighs 3-4kg (depending on the size I get). We’d be putting it up on a brick wall as well, so similar situation.
Hey Charlie, do you think these would be strong enough to hold an oak floating mantel? The company I ordered from advised to use 4.5 x 100 screws as the oak mantel has keylocks routered into the back of it. Great video thank you b
Don't know without knowing how heavy the floating mantel is. When I'm fitting heavy things with those keylocks I tend to use a reasonably thick screw - at least 5mm diameter. Problem is the screw head doesn't fit in the key lock, so I slowly rotate it on my belt sander, reducing the diameter of the screw head until it fits in. That way you have the benefit of a long, strong screw that still fits in the key lock. I guess ideally you want to go with pan head screws, but there doesn't tend to be a decent selection of sizes, and they tend to be slot headed which is a bit of a pain. If it's a heavy mantle, the integrity of the fixing (ie getting a strong fix into the wall) is also key.
@@CharlieDIYte I have exposed bricks and I usually install the fixings in the mortar, between the bricks. So far no issues but maybe it's a mistake. What do you think?
A few good tips there, thanks. But(!) you put up a marble shelf above the head of a bed? Maybe I'm not quite as good at DIY but that seems like a deathtrap to me. I wouldn't even put up a wooden shelf above sleeping heads. I'd only put a shelf there if I had two cantilever supports holding the shelf up that went all the way through the wall and were bolted on the other side. You didn't even angle the screws downward to counteract the inevitable torque/force-moment that will be trying to pull the screws out of the wall. I'm scared for your sister, and anyone who puts something heavy above their heads without careful consideration. Apologies if I'm wrong, but I honestly can't see how I am overly concerned.
I hear your concern but if you had felt the pressure on that screw you'd not have had any concern about the shelf coming down. Fear not though, they've got a cupboard there now ,😉👍
If your choice was wrong you may actually kill your sister and brother in law 😂 I take the vacumcleaner and hold the hose under, much easier. Nice video thank you.
The room was too small to move the bed. No dust created so no need. Plus I was doing a favour for my little sis on the fly. Clearly I'd use a dust sheet if it was a clients house. There's no pleasing some people
My tip for collecting the dust is to fold a piece of paper or card in half. Pull in the edges of the half not touching the wall and tape them down. Then attach the back to the wall with low tack tape. That creates a pocket for the dust to fall into and you still have two hands free for the tool and/or item being fixed to the wall
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Absolutely love this video, no chit chat and rabbiting on, just the instructions and why. Just got yourself a new subscriber😊
Wonderful and thank you for your time in teaching us how to hang heavy shelves on brick. I can’t have anyone over right now because of the COVID-19 so I’m going to try it myself. My whole house is made of bricks. Gracias from Mexico 🇲🇽
You're very welcome Suzanna and wow, I'm humbled you've found my vid in beautiful Mexico! Good luck with the DIY and let me know if you've got any questions 👍
Haha, I can't believe that you never pulled the bed away from the wall and instead you stomped and walked all over it! A very informative film with some excellent information about fixings and drilling. Thank-you for sharing. N.
Neil George I knew someone would say that! The room was too small to shift the bed unfortunately.
I thought there would have to be an explanation. N.
This is a brilliant video! I’m a complete novice who was just quoted £150 from a handyman to put up shelves etc. Needless to say I’m about to learn a new skill!
Thanks so much Amy. Go for it. It'll be just the start of your DIY journey. Drop me a message on here if you've got any questions along the way. 👍
That was Awesome looks like brick behind plaster. I enjoyed watching very great Details.
Thanks Kevin 👍
Very helpful. Thanks. I hung a shelf and failed spectacularly.
I'll apply your tips next time
Thanks Tony - sorry to hear that. As you say it's the mistakes you learn most from.
Some nice tips Charlie, thanks for the video. I like the dustpan idea but I don’t have the hand coordination and grip strength you do as I am getting a bit older. I use a brown paper bag (lunch sack) and a strip of blue painters tape across the back and use that to catch the mess from the drill bit. It works well for me... cheers.
Ron
Ron H That's fair enough Ron. A decent technique that I've heard other people using - just need to be careful not to take the paint off. Thanks for the comment!
What a damn good idea. I haven’t drilled anything because I’m afraid it won’t hold and the mess it’s going to create. But the bag idea 💡 I will do that instead of the broom pan. Gracias from Mexico 🇲🇽
Very clear and concise video that would allow anyone to put a shelf up with ease. Bit disappointed you didn't prove it level with a spirit level - always a satisfying moment to a job well done I find!
Thanks Andrew. It was set with the laser level but yes, I guess that would have been good for the sake of completeness. I can assure you it was completely plumb though 🙂
Great tips as always Charlie. Particular like the "wiggle" about abit drill bit. Everyone has one of them "universal" drill bits in their toolkit! I tend not to knock through the wall plug in as you lose support of the wall plug where you need it i.e. Nearest to the wall. Without that when you are hanging items the screw can pull down into the void slightly. If the correct size screw and hole is used you shouldn't really get plaster cracking.
My tip for collecting the dust is to fold a piece of paper or card in half. Pull in the edges of the half not touching the wall and tape them down. Then attach the back to the wall with low tack tape. That creates a pocket for the dust to fall into and you still have two hands free for the tool and/or item being fixed to the wall
This is really good. Detailed enough. Thank you
Your videos are great! Any update on the fixings into brickwork video? Especially for heavy pictures etc. It’s the one I’m waiting for!
It won't be for a while I'm afraid Simone. Drop me an email with a bit of info on the situation (are you hanging them from wires or some other fixing point?) and I'll give you my recommendations.
A quick question whilst I'm here, I drilled 4 holes into an internal solid wall for shelf brackets, but the holes are a bit off even though I marked it correctly. I now need to drill another 4 holes slightly higher and to the left. How far apart do the holes need to be from the first set of holes to avoid weakening the new drilled holes?
Also, any advice for drilling holes accurately without the drill bit wondering off? I'm thinking off using a much smaller drill bit first and then working my way upto the 8mm bit that I need. Thank you kindly.
Before drilling into any wall you should always check for Electric wires and Water/Gas pipes, even if it looks from the outside there is nothing there, otherwise a good job.
How do you find out if there is anything behind the wall that you listed above?
@@soulstarguidancereadingswi4938 With a pipe/stud detector, about £20-£30
Great video Charlie it really covers the practical issues so well including your reasoning for each decision.
I was just wondering about option 1 - if you recess the plug it would be very close to going through the brick on a cavity wall I think. Is this something you need to be a bit careful of if you have cavity walls in your house? It would be just the sort of thing I would do Lol.
Thanks for the tips. Its a job I hate doing!!
I couldn’t see the list of tools and parts at the end? So useful and I’m going to attempt to hang heavy mirror and I’ll need to buy some of the equipment. Thanks.
It should be in the description below the video. Click on the little down arrow to open it if you're viewing on your phone.
This is so useful. I am about to hang solid oak floating shelves to an internal wall. Any tips on how to tell whether the wall is plasterboard or brick? The house is not a new build, probably built in the 60s.
Hi Charlie - great video. Any advice for fitting a similar marble shelf through plasterboard into wooden joists below? Struggling to know what brackets/ supports to choose.
Love the outtakes at the end lol
Thanks 😉
Love the outtakes at the end...whispering it like nobody will hear 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s shelf time baby!
Amazing a super helpfull!!! Thank you!!
You're welcome. Thanks for the comment. 🙏
I've only used 7mm brown wall plugs. The dewalt drill bit set in your video doesn't have a 7mm drill bit. Can you recommend an alternative good drill bit set that includes a 7mm drill bit?
Amazing and very detailed video and information. Thank you very much! Do you have the link for the shelf as well? I can find it, but will rather help you by clicking on your links.
Thank you again
That's so kind Blanca. No I don't unfortunately but I'm seeing my sister later this week so I'll ask her 👍
Is it just pot luck you don’t hit crumbly mortar or the edge of brick and crack it?
Trying to fit some heavy duty 6kg brackets to hold a 12 kg keyboard.
Pretty old house so chances are the mortars not up to holding 18kg but reluctant to strip it back to brick if I don’t have to.
Any advice appreciated 🙏 or do I just pray I hit the middle of a brick 🧱
What happens if you accidentally drill into the mortar between the bricks? Could happen? Just asking before I put up my first shelf.
what if I end up drilling into the mortar? is that fine, or should I move a bit to the side, so I find the brick?
It depends how strong the mortar is. In my old cottage the mortar is pretty crumbly so plugging in it is problematic. There's no way to know when you're drilling so my advice would be to see if you can get a good fixing in the mortar. Maybe start by drilling a 5mm diameter hole because of you do hit mortar with that you may be able to get a 6mm plug in.
Good stuff! Very thorough cheers Charlie!
Dan Rymer Trenholme Thanks Dan!
I'm amazed they are willing to take the risk of leaving that above their heads whilst they sleep. I would be terrified!
Ha! To be honest there is absolutely no way that shelf is coming off the wall. That's the beauty of getting a decent fixing. 😉
Do you want the hole as deep as possible, or only as deep as the wall plug is long? Just repainted a wall ready for some brackets for shelving which will hold books and so are deceptively weighty.
You basically want to go about 10mm deeper than the screw length, Jeremy. You want that margin of error because there's nothing more annoying than the screw hitting the back of the hole before you've driven it in, which can also damage the plaster at the front. Also worth tapping the plug a bit below the surface so it doesn't crack the plaster as it expands with the screw inside it.
@@CharlieDIYte thanks for the quick reply!
I'd definatly put a tarp on my sisters bed before kneeling on it xD
Fair point 😉
Another good way of catching the dust is to put an open envelope under the place to be drilled and tape it to the wall with low-tack tape. That leaves you two handed for the drilling
Could you show me how to put up bookshelf using london brackets?
Builder tried ti drill holes for me to hang up floating shelves for some bookshelf speakers. Wall is plaster on brick but when drilling the drill bit would veer off left or right making the hole unusable. The holes that he did manage to drill straight just didn’t hold the shelf up and the plug just came out with the screws when even a light weight was put on the shelves! Will this method work?? Thank you.
Another great video thanks. I've just put up a roller blind using top mounting method with battery drill. Bad idea - presumably was going into lintel - took ages. I really like those Fischer UX plugs but they have two versions - one doesn't have a rim and is designed for push through fitting. Any idea what they mean by push through?
What if there are studs in the wall? How do the screws reach far enough into the brick?
You might be best to use a heavy weight plasterboard fixing in that scenario, maybe Geefix th-cam.com/video/Jdu9RId7m90/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Cu0WGtdL9gvfPKIj
we have a 20 kg cabinet to hand that can take additional 10 kg load. The cabinet is held on 2 parallel battens that altogether are fixed by 8 screws to the wall. We were thinking 8 by 50mm fisher plug plus 5x70mm screws, do you think it will do the job for the potential 30 kg? It's a brick wall as well. Any hints on what length plugs/screws for what load in general? thanks for a super useful video, hope we will get ours right :D
Hi Anna. Yes I think that would be a sensible combination, which I'd probably go for too, and I think you're spot on with a 5mm dia screw which presumably is the correct length to just go through the back of the fixing, taking into account your batten depth? I actually sometimes just use brown plugs when fixing into brick, but I only use plugs like this bit.ly/3uuDphL as a lot of brown plugs on the market are rubbish. Good luck with putting it up.
@@CharlieDIYte thanks a lot for reassuring us in our choice. We have access to the fisher ones and ppl seem to be very happy with them so we will go for them rn but will take a note of the plugs you recommend for other projects :) also the batten is 15mm plus 50mm plug should be optimal with 70mm screw I hope :)
Thanks dad
Can you put a shelf on a newly damp proofed wall? I don’t want to make it un effective if I put a shelf up on this wall as it’s built different
Hi, just to check - did you use the longest screw because of the weight of the shelf or because it had a wider head so that (hopefully) the shelf wouldn't slip over the head? Hope that make sense.
From memory I think it was the size of the head, but the larger head size also denotes a larger screw diameter, which I was keen on using to get a really tight fit in the wall plug.
@@CharlieDIYte Thank you for replying. I am just trying getting to grips with the basics and trying understand why and how! Like the videos
Are you able to do a video how to fit blinds up please? I have roman blinds to fit with the fitting on the top not sides and have hit what I’m guessing is steel from an rsj so struggling to get the depth for a plug to safely hang the brackets. I have searched for videos but nothing really out there so may help a lot of people. Great vid as always
Thanks! If you hit a steel, you want to watch this th-cam.com/video/G1ziRy_OJbU/w-d-xo.html It's a trick I learnt from one of the fitters who works for us 👍
Charlie DIYte brilliant thanks! 👍🏻
To be honest nothing really wrong with the quality of the video. which as always very good
+Jer Goes Thanks Jer - much appreciated! I agree, but it looked pretty awful whilst I was editing it, so I thought I'd better warn you all!
Are you sure it was not a bookcase LOL... Stanley must love the free advertising. (New Subscriber).
Can you please tell me How I can find out if there are electric wires where I want to drill?
The best option is a detector but they're all quite hit and miss. This is the one I've got amzn.to/4ca3p8i (affiliate link) and it's about as good as you'll find.
Nice video. One question what colour paint is on the bedroom walls??
+Mohammed Kadeer Hussain Thanks! It's Farrow and Ball Clunch
Hi there liked the video!!. I wonder if you can shed some light on my method of something I have tried to do please. I wanted to attach a piece of wood (18mm) on to a brick wall. I used red plugs and 4mm screws. I have seen people drill through the wood with a wood bit then change to the masonary bit of the same size (6mm) , then put the plug into the wood , add the end of the screw then tap in with a hammer, the plug goes through the wood piece and so on. the bit I struggle with is trying to get the plug through the wood into the wall - basically the scews expands it a little and hence does not go through. I cannot make the hole any bigger in the wood of course the screw wont hold and i would go out of line overall. Any clues what it is i am doing wrong? thanks in advance
Do you need to do this? It's a neater job if you put the wood in position, drill through into the wall with say an old 4mm hss bit to mark the position of the holes and then take the wood away and drill and plug the wall. If you do have to have the wood in position the mistake you're making is not using a screw that's wide enough in diameter. You need say a 5mm dia screw. That way when you hammer in the screw it doesn't go too far into the plug and drives the plug through the wood. You have to be reasonably aggressive with the first few taps to get the plug going through. You can then go back to the screw you intended to use, to fix the wood in place. However 4mm is quite a thin screw... Hope that helps.
If I were to put on a very large shelf , say 2000mm length. How much weight can it support with heavy duty brackets?
Jesus, a shelf that heavy right above the head.
Suj That's where they wanted it! It's never coming down though with those fixings 💪
The Shelf of Damocles
Do you know how heavy the shelf is? I’m thinking of buying a concrete shelf that weighs 3-4kg (depending on the size I get). We’d be putting it up on a brick wall as well, so similar situation.
I'm afraid not Angelique, but it would have been similar in weight. Provided you get a decent fixing you should be fine
Thanks... great help🙂
I stick a letter envelope to the wall to catch the dust.
good job , well done
Hey Charlie, do you think these would be strong enough to hold an oak floating mantel? The company I ordered from advised to use 4.5 x 100 screws as the oak mantel has keylocks routered into the back of it. Great video thank you b
Don't know without knowing how heavy the floating mantel is. When I'm fitting heavy things with those keylocks I tend to use a reasonably thick screw - at least 5mm diameter. Problem is the screw head doesn't fit in the key lock, so I slowly rotate it on my belt sander, reducing the diameter of the screw head until it fits in. That way you have the benefit of a long, strong screw that still fits in the key lock. I guess ideally you want to go with pan head screws, but there doesn't tend to be a decent selection of sizes, and they tend to be slot headed which is a bit of a pain. If it's a heavy mantle, the integrity of the fixing (ie getting a strong fix into the wall) is also key.
Charlie DIYte thanks Charlie. It weighs around 25kg. That was my worry too that the more heavy duty screws won’t fit the keylocks.
Great, really clear
How heavy is the shelf?
If you use a strip of painters tape under hole no need to hold a dustpan.
Great video! But why in the wide world would anyone want a heavy shelf there?
what if you drill into the mortar?
How d'you mean?
@@CharlieDIYte I have exposed bricks and I usually install the fixings in the mortar, between the bricks. So far no issues but maybe it's a mistake. What do you think?
i hope you don't have any earthquakes any time soon, seems dangerous
Paul Lemon Ha! Luckily we're not very prone to earth quakes over here 🤔
A few good tips there, thanks. But(!) you put up a marble shelf above the head of a bed? Maybe I'm not quite as good at DIY but that seems like a deathtrap to me. I wouldn't even put up a wooden shelf above sleeping heads. I'd only put a shelf there if I had two cantilever supports holding the shelf up that went all the way through the wall and were bolted on the other side.
You didn't even angle the screws downward to counteract the inevitable torque/force-moment that will be trying to pull the screws out of the wall.
I'm scared for your sister, and anyone who puts something heavy above their heads without careful consideration.
Apologies if I'm wrong, but I honestly can't see how I am overly concerned.
I hear your concern but if you had felt the pressure on that screw you'd not have had any concern about the shelf coming down. Fear not though, they've got a cupboard there now ,😉👍
Lol dat thumbnail
LMAO at the outtakes
I forgot about those 😂
That shelf's not going anywhere. Firmly attached.
It hasn't fallen down yet 🙂
If your choice was wrong you may actually kill your sister and brother in law 😂
I take the vacumcleaner and hold the hose under, much easier.
Nice video thank you.
Bit shocked you didn't move the bed --- even more shocked you didn't cover it with a dust sheet. Jeez.
The room was too small to move the bed. No dust created so no need. Plus I was doing a favour for my little sis on the fly. Clearly I'd use a dust sheet if it was a clients house. There's no pleasing some people
are you single? winks
My tip for collecting the dust is to fold a piece of paper or card in half. Pull in the edges of the half not touching the wall and tape them down. Then attach the back to the wall with low tack tape. That creates a pocket for the dust to fall into and you still have two hands free for the tool and/or item being fixed to the wall
@800Viffer ... I use a similar technique with an envelope