Rambling about B550 and X570 motherboards. December 2020
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#Ryzen #motherboards #AMD - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
0:44 & 2:11:03 MSI B550-A Pro
1:53 Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme
6:33 slight tangent into ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero & Formula
7:38 back to Aorus Xtreme
8:49 MSI MEG X570 Godlike
12:25 MSI Prestige X570 Creation
18:38 ASRock X570 Creator
22:15 ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero & Dark Hero
28:34 MSI MEG X570 Ace & Unify
32:17 Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master
37:54 ASRock X570 Taichi
49:23 ASUS ROG Strix X570-E
53:37 ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming X
54:53 ASUS ROG Strix X570-I & B550-I
59:47 ASUS ROG Strix B550-E
1:05:51 tangent into SLI, Gigabyte B550 Vision D
1:06:30 more SLI rambles, ASRock B550 Taichi
1:11:25 Actually talking about ASRock B550 Taichi
1:14:15 Actually talking about the Gigabyte B550 Vision D
1:15:00 Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra, Elite, Elite Wifi
1:18:25 ASRock X570 PG Velocita
1:20:47 ASRock X570 Steel Legend wifi ax
1:21:40 ASUS X570 TUF Gaming Pro
1:22:09 Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro Wifi
1:22:37 Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master
1:24:25 ASUS X570 Prime Pro
1:26:10 Gigabyte X570 I Aorus Pro Wifi
1:26:37 MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi
1:30:14 MSI MPG X570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi
1:30:35 back to X570 Tomahawk
1:32:57 ASRock X570 Extreme4
1:33:25 Winner of the $220 mobos, ASUS X570 TUF Gaming Pro Wifi, honorable mention B550 Taichi
1:35:35 MSI MPG B550 Gaming Edge Wifi
1:36:10 ASRock X570 Steel Legend
1:37:45 Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
1:39:48 & 1:50:17 Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC/V2
1:42:49 ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3
1:44:36 ASRock B550M-itx/ac
1:46:05 ASUS Prime X570-P
1:46:58 MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus
1:49:04 MSI X570-A Pro
1:49:14 ASUS TUF Gaming X570 Plus
1:49:28 ASRock B550 PG Velocita = Steel Legend = Extreme4
1:49:54 & 1:52:04 MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk
1:50:38 ASRock B550 Extreme4 & Steel Legend
1:51:24 & 1:58:50 ASUS TUF Gaming B550 Plus (WiFi)
1:52:58 ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 Wifi ax
1:54:06 Gigabyte X570 Gaming X
1:55:01 Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite V2
1:55:37 MSI MAG B550M Mortar (WiFi)
1:56:42 & 2:02:25 Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro P
1:58:03 Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro
2:00:02 ASRock B550M Steel Legend
2:03:30 ASUS Prime B550M-K
2:03:40 ASRock B550M/ac
2:04:13 Gigabyte X570 UD
2:05:22 Outro - Buildzoid's favorite motherboards
2:08:19 ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (WiFi)
2:12:10 Actual Outro
A Legend!
dude you're insane!
This is what he should've done lol
Incredible! Thank you for rambling to us internet strangers.
That was really needed, thank you so much.
****1:53** 700$ Gigabyte x570 Aorus Xtreme**
(favourite "idc about money" board)
+ rambling about Asus ROG Crosshair 8 Formula 800$ and Hero
[8:53 700$ MSI MEG x570 Godlike]
(Very bad I/O and Lan for the price but unique PCI-Slot Layout)
+ rambling about MSI Prestige x570 Creation 500$ and MSI QVLs
18:59 500$ ASRock x570 Creator
(More Thunderbolt) vs MSI Prestige x570 Creation
22:27 360$ Asus ROG x 570 Crosshair 8 Hero
(Dark Version costs more but better OC - never in Stock)
[28:38 370$ MSI MEG x570-Ace]
(just a worse Unify, but has RGB (yayyy))
compared to:
****28:42** 300$ MSI MEG x570-Unify**
"Optimal x570 board"
****32:20** 370$ Gigabyte x570 Aorus Master**
"Favourite ~370$ OC Board" (Great Memory OC Board, some weirdness with BIOS failing)
****37:32** 300$ ASRock x570 Taichi**
"Best Board for normies" (only limit is 1Gb LAN, Bad Mem OC)
49:23 300$ Asus ROG Strix x570-E Gaming
(better LAN & more SATA than Taichi, overall not that cost effective)
53:32 340$ ASRock x570 Phantom Gaming X
"recolored Taichi with extra 2.5Gb LAN Port"
****54:56** 250$ Asus ROG Strix x570-I Gaming mITX**
"Favourite ITX at MSRP" vs. B550 Version (better Memory OC, worse VRM and I/O)
54:56 Asus ROG Strix B550-I Gaming mITX
* just so you can find it more easily *
59:52 270$ Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming
(EU Prices ~170-200$)"Kinda like this board @EU price (SLI Support, 6xSATA, ok I/O)
# SLI Support mentioned for x8+x8 functionality i guess#
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~1:00:00 "If you just want a cheap Board with VRM to support your CPU go here"
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1:05:51 260$ Gigabyte B550 Vision D
(Supports SLI, good PCI Layout, unique white looks)"no stupid GB dual bios, Nice Postcode location"
****1:06:37** 300$ ASrock B550 Taichi**
discount 230$ (no SLI License, 8 SATA ports), "at 230$ great, at 300$ bad", # Who tf cares about SLI??#
> 1:14:50 rambling about low end Gigabyte boards stupid Dual Bios functionality on B550 (rare) vs X570 (basically everywhere)
> 1:15:26 rambling about ASUS Memory OC and (high) pricing
> more rambling about Gigabyte weirdness and some Asus board characteristics
# damn it is hard to timestamp him:D #
[1:18:28 270$ ASRock x570 PG Velocita]
"very misleading PCI topology, but good Memory OC"
[1:20:45 270$ ASRock x570 Steel Legend WiFi ax]
"should be 200$, this is dumb"(same as PG Velocita basically)
[1:22:10 250$ Gigabyte x570 Aorus Pro WiFi]
"Obnoxious GB Dual Bios, SLI Support, just get the B550 Version"
[1:22:39 250$ Gigabyte B550 Aurous Master]
"Obnoxious GB Dual Bios, can't recommend, annoying to work with"
1:24:26 240$ Asus Prime x570-Pro
(SLI, PCI Switches, only 6 Sata Ports) "really solid option"
1:26:38 220$ MSI MAG x570 Tomahawk WiFi
"doesn't make sense as x570, otherwise solid" (Good OC support, Great VRM Heatsink, ok I/O)
****1:27:35** 220$ Asus TUF Gaming x570-Pro WiFi**
(direct comparison to MSI Tomahawk, adds Bios Flashback (standard for MSI))
1:30:14 230$ MSI MPG x570 Gaming Pro Carbon WiFi
(sacrifices some VRM Quality for better featureset) "kinda like eh, pretend it doesn't exist)
# 1:30:44 "it's a shame you can't ctrl-f a video" gotchu bro, should get paid for this tho#
> 1:31:00 rambling on how you should choose a motherboard, what a motherboard even represents
1:32:58 230$ ASRock x570 Extreme 4
"more expensive TUF Pro"
1:35:36 190$ MSI MPG B550 Gaming Edge
"why would i pay 190$ for B550, just get the x570 TUF Plus"
1:36:00 190$ ASRock x570 Steel Legend
(8 Sata Ports, no troubleshoot LEDs, no BIOS flashback) # compares this to ASUS TUF Plus#
****1:36:00** 180$ Asus TUF Gaming x570-Plus**
"Baseline X570 board"
1:37:48 195$ Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
(Bad Memory OC, internal Type C)
****1:39:48** 170$ Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC**
(save 20$ if you do not need x570 stuff like extra drive bandwith etc)
1:42:50 190$ ASRock x570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3 mITX
"i don't like the rear I/O (thunderbolt 3)
> 1:43:10 rambling on x570 ITX boards, "below 140$ there is only miserable boards + examples"
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# BZ wants to wrap up fast here and skips a lot, basically saying "Just get the 180$ TUF instead", because stuff has bad VRMS and very limited featuresets.
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1:55:00 160$ Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite V2
(Good VRM, Memory OC only ok with 2 DIMMS, 4 Sata Ports)
****1:55:35** 157$ MSI MAG B550M Mortar mATX**
"best mATX OC board" (not great Memory OC, 6 Sata Ports, good PCI Layout, shit I/O)
1:58:50 155$ (discounted) Asus TUF Gaming B550-Plus
"reasonable for the discounted price" (decent I/O, no troubleshoot LEDs, bad Memory OC)
2:00:00 130$ ASRock B550M Steel Legend mATX
"featureset not bad for the price" (slightly hot VRM, no BIOS flashblack)
2:02:22 120$ Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro-P mATX
"similar to Steel Legend"
[[2:03:31 110$ Asus Prime B550M-K mATX]]
"why does this exist, why does it cost so much, it is terrible" # double brackets coz extra bad #
2:03:39 115$ ASRock B550M/ac
"kinda make sense if you need the WiFi"
[2:04:58 160$ Gigabyte x570 UD]
"This doesn't make sense, u can get b550 with more m.2 slots" (bad VRM (BZ tested this))
>2:05:00 conclusion
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Legend:
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Buildzoid's personal favourite for given category **...**
not recommended board [...]
Most important functions: (...)
Builzoid notes: "..."
My notes: #...#
edit: Format
I like these time stamps even better
@@ryanwallace983 thanks man^^ i wanna come back in a month or so and use these notes to find myself a mobo again^^
Thank you
This is perfect!
Wish I had know this before buying my x570 master, not that is a bad mobo, temps and oc was excellent but I had the weird issue that it stopped powering up so I did RMA on it and got the MSI unify, very happy for now but well, I was early adopter so you can never know.
"i need to make this ivdeo not compete with gn's mobo roundup"
ya bz i think it being 2:22:03 accomplishes that mission superbly lel
yeah that was the plan.
Put so much info in that people cant find the gems.
@@wobblysauce well people were complaining that the AM4 livestream is gone. So this is like the stream just without a live audience.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking And personal details.
@@wobblysauce well thats just kinda weird
1:53 Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME
5:42 ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
8:50 MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
12:16 MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION
Time stamps:
18:37 ASRock X570 CREATOR
22:27 Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
28:33 MSI MEG X570 ACE / UNIFY
32:18 Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER
37:30 ASRock X570 Taichi
49:23 Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
53:36 ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming X
54:53 Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming
59:46 Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming
1:05:47 Gigabyte B550 VISION D
1:06:37 ASRock B550 Taichi
1:18:25 ASRock X570 PG Velocita
1:20:46 ASRock X570 Steel Legend WI-FI
1:22:09 Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO WI-FI
1:22:39 Gigabyte B550 AORUS MASTER
1:23:28 Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO
1:24:24 Asus PRIME X570-PRO
1:27:34 Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO WI-FI
1:29:50 MSI MPG B550 / X570 Gaming PRO CARBON WI-FI
1:32:58 ASRock X570 Extreme4
1:34:30 MSI MAG X570 TOMOHAWK WI-FI
1:35:32 MSI MPG B550 Gaming EDGE WI-FI
1:37:39 Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE
1:39:44 Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AC
1:42:47 ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/TB3
1:44:30 ASRock B550M-ITX/ac
1:46:04 Asus PRIME X570-P
1:46:55 MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS
1:49:14 Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS
1:49:27 ASRock B550 PG Velocita
1:52:58 ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING 4 WI-FI
1:53:15 Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX
1:54:05 Gigabyte X570 Gaming X
1:54:58 Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE V2
1:55:35 MSI MAG B550 MORTAR Micro/WI-FI
1:57:55 Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO
1:58:43 Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS
1:59:41 ASRock B550 Steel Legend Micro
2:02:16 Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO-P Micro
2:03:21 Asus PRIME B550M-K Micro
2:03:37 ASRock B550M/ac Micro
2:03:51 ASRock B550 PHANTOM GAMING 4
2:04:09 Gigabyte X570 UD
*Outro Favourites*
2:05:20 MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION
2:05:36 MSI MEG X570 UNIFY
2:07:08 Asus TUF GAMING X570 PRO WI-FI
2:07:40 Gigabyte B550 VISION D
2:08:16 Asus ROG Strix B550-F GAMING WI-FI
2:08:56 CREATION / Taichi / UNIFY / VISION D
2:09:54 Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO V2
2:10:17 Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
2:10:57 MSI B550-A PRO
2:19:27 Asus ROG Strix B550-E GAMING
No mention of msi b550 itx. Damn.
first
EDIT consider this a replacement for the AM4 discussion livestream. Also I am sick and tired of answering questions about motherboards.
Have you tested to see which of your boards the best memory OC board between the unify X and the master or are they close enough that you couldn't really be bothered to do it?
How's the finding a new apartment coming along?
yeah everybody needs recommend when you need help..what a shame
oi. Are you using some addon in chrome to autozoom?
@@NotThatGuyJD it's more an issue of the master's dual bios getting in the way
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking ah that lovely feature.
15:18
It's ok, my RAM, I still love you even if buildzoid doesn't.
OMG YES. Just watched all your AM4 content and everything is from like a year ago, LOVE IT
I have been waiting for this, thank you!
just 10 minutes into this video and I want to thank you. Ive already changed my mind on a board that I had settled on buying after spending the whole day researching. Thank you.
Thanks for all the motherboard research you do, Buildzoid. You're my go-to when deciding which one to get. Really looking hard at moving from my X570 Elite to the Master before upgrading CPU, GPU, and possibly RAM.
Hands down these are my favorite videos from you.
Awesome rundown! I learned a lot and it helped me make decision for a new mobo! Many thanks!
When you fall asleep to buildzoid videos you know you might have caught the PC building itch
What a great video. Thank you for making this!
Thank you for the detailed round up. Thanks to your reviews and VRM videos I am very happy with my x570 Unify, which I got for 250usd.
love your ramblings!
Thank you for all the videos. I switched recently from a Ryzen 1700 to a 3900x. I had a cheap B350 board which seems to be a little overburdened by the 1700 so i bought a new board for the 3900x. Searched for the manual, technical details and for your video about this board before i bought it to check if it is decent.
"You're smarter than me, I admit you're a better motherboard than I am" xD
With what Some people consider as possible genders i wouldn't be surprised that if Motherboard Was 1 of those.
Opposite of a waste of time bro. Watched the whole thing and helps my decision making immensely. Amazing content and much appreciated! I don’t even remember watching an hour video let alone a 2hr one 😂. I hope you’re having a great holiday season mate!
I embrace and enjoy all the rambling. all of it
if I had an hour to live I'd spend it watching your videos coz it feels like an eternity.
The perfect video for a cold Sunday morning.
we must be fun at parties
@@h0rk3d if u come to my parties u are
Thanks for the video man. Super helpful! Subcribed.
1:08:44 The Asus Rog Strix B550-E does have SLI support, it's in the multi-gpu support, right above the expansion slots you looked at.
Man needs to use Ctrl F like wtf haha
01:10:50 he eventually found it:)
This is the perfect video to listen to while building a customer a gaming PC.
ASRock X570 Taichi - 3rd M.2 slot is actually tied with the bottom PCIe x16 slot. So you can always have 8 SATA drives connected, but either the 3rd M.2 or the 3rd PCIe x16. They also have a Thunderbolt AIC that has to go into the bottom slot, so if you use that card, you can't use the 3rd M.2.
Thanks for this!
I will sit through this entire video even though I already bought a board two months ago.
2 hours and 20 rambling, im in.
Could you give technical details about that "new memory topology"? Is it still T topology vs daisy chain? Which revision is which?
I usually watch your videos before i go to sleep, and i have to say, they are so relaxing!
You are on the same level of the 2 little indians digging a house with pool included on TH-cam
Anyway, thank you for your sharing of knowledge!
I like ramble through :)
Just got the MSI B550-A Pro, pretty happy with it!
I wish you did a Christmas shopping advice video for this year with A520 B450 B550 and X570 boards. All of those chipsets have strong contenders in their respective price ranges, it's hard to decide what to buy at the moment.
Would love to see you get the Strix B550-e and test how the memory OC actually does. My old B450-f already does 4600MHz+ so I'd be surpised if the B550-e didn't go quite a bit further.
Hello, 39 year old normie here. Man I love your rambling videos BuildZoid, I laugh take note and learn from you. I want to thank you because I'm sure my knowledge about buying a motherboard has improved I considere myself as a normie plus. Thanks again and hope to see the Gamer Nexus video.
45:10 "You're smarter than me, I admit you're a better motherboard than I am"
that's a very intimidating video
just buildzoid things I guess
You talk about the battery, sometimes I will turn off the power from the wall out-let and find the time has changed when starting back up.
Buildzoid's subconsious bios really grinds the Taichi's gears
hi buildzoid
for the x570 dark hero.
the singlecore/multicore overclocking on the fly is pretty much usefull for like blender etc.
the ingest of data, before the render itself, is basically singlecore. so the 5 ghz on a 5950 x on ingest and then all core 4,7 or higher on the render itself, will help a little with time.
that translates with all programs which use a single core to load respurces and multicore for the actual workload.
500€ in austria, we have way higher taxes than elsewhere :-/
As someone who has built thousands of systems working for a system integrator, software needs to be part of this discussion. I'd spend more on an ROG board, specifically for the software, even if it meant -1 m.2. Especially considering a good 95% of people who will never use this hardware to it's full potential, it's best for people to just purchase a solid reliable board, rather than actually worrying about topologies, or achieving 4000+ Mhz ram...
What you mentioned about the master being your favorite 'price isn't a concern' option, and then saying that sometimes it randomly stops working for 10mins at a time and needs to be reset... That shit is nightmare fuel to anyone in the SI community. Companies will stop carrying certain boards because of issues like this. From my 9 years of building ~2700 - 3000 gaming systems and workstations - I would never in my life recommend Gigabyte, or Asrock as a viable option, especially for anyone who's machine is critical for work. Also Asrock bios looks like someone's kid designed it in MS paint.
It's great to a perspective from a motherboard reviewer who get's 1 unit of a board and gives their opinion, and there are also lots of other different things to consider when thinking about why certain boards have certain features. Fabbing a board design is not by any means cheap, so I think it would be really great for your viewer base to be able to watch you interview some people who actually design these products. I've had the pleasure of meeting some of them (mostly from ASUS/MSI) and they aren't stupid people! Very interesting to hear their perspective as well!
Great video
I mean yeah while all that you said is true, it is very irrelevant! Just look at the name of this channel and it may clue you in. This channel is made for the people who do overclocking and those who get hardware specifically for that.
before i watch this video, i knew its going to be helpful because im waiting to get a x570 after i get my hands on 5900x, already have 3080 strix oc :D
Hello! ive seen your PCB breakdown videos and they are really intresting, but i have a question, what is in terms of power delivery, the best affordable motherboard to overclock the integrated graphics of an AMD APU, since there is no other viable affordable option for me. i hope you see this.
The Vision looks really interesting from how you describe it. If that bottom PCI-e slot can be converted to more than 2 SATA3 slots, it seems like a fine compromise.
Thx for the admittedly lengthy and sometimes confusing overview, enjoyed the ride. Would be interested in what you think about the refreshed Asus B450 mobos such as the B450-F gaming II. Think there s a lot of ppl who still have older chips or are looking for any kinda upgrade/ downgrade path that 450s offer. Personally I m far more interested in 450s coz I got two 1st gen chips...and I know others who have as well. Asus claim to have changed the backplate and the Mosfet layout is defo changed (compared it) but I m way to much of a pleb to properly judge that. My googling led me to think that the B450-F Gaming II refresh might actually be just as good as the B450 Carbon Pro Max or even better than the Mortar Max that you praised in another vid.
So do you have any other thoughts on the MSI B550 Gaming Edge Wifi? I mean from what you did say about it, it seems pretty alright.
Now Buildzoid how is this not conflicting with GN video again? 😂 This is the info i would expect from it. Well done btw. Personally i like the B550/m Aorus Pro's. Its so sexy with that many USB's. 👍
Love wasting time with you buildzoid! 😂 I have an Asus B550-E gaming arriving tomorrow actually and now I'm worried about the memory oc capabilities. My x570 unify has to go back to MSI for some fixes... Which is on me, it's a great board! Tempted to get the unify x but also really wanting to try a different board vendor, so Asus it is! Thought about the vision though too.
You're right about the Gigabyte bios having a lot of issues. I have an X570 Master and I loved it with the 3900XT on the 2X bios. But with my new 5950X on the 3X bios, it suffers from multiple issues. The most bizarre one I'm running into is the per CCX overclock only affecting half the cores. Half boost to what I set the OC to and half stay at base clock.
I so regret buying the MSI Meg Ace LOL. Thank you for the detail on better options.
1:31:25 Yes lowest possible price with the most or all the things you need for a motherboard to choose which to buy
I think the Asus prime x570 pro looks beautiful (always been a fan of white layouts) and is a relatively good price but bear in mind it doesn't have flashback so you will need an old CPU if you are going to put one of the new CPU's in it
Keep in mind that many of the boards with 3 m.2 slots, tend to have many compromises, for example, some will have undesirable behavior, such as one of the m.2 slots sharing bandwidth with the PCIe X4 slot as well as 2 of the SATA ports depending on which type of m.2 drive is installed.
Is there an Error Correcting Code memory type/brand you would recommend for any of the 570s that support it
It seems like a niche/shadow topic and I wonder if it would help for people doing things like rendering or simulation.
In your Gamers Nexus B550 roundup, there was a comment about the state of the BIOSes and AMD messing with AGESA. Do you feel the January 2021 BIOS releases still have these problems or is it too soon to say?
I was here for the MSI x570 Unify and whether he still likes it. It’s 275 euro’s in the Netherlands, but out of stock until Januari.
hey buildzoid. in this cinematic movie u mentioned that u can read the mobo-pcb layer number off the mobo in the low left corner of the the mobo (for asus + msi).. what do i hv to read there (i´ve got an MSI B450 Pro Carbon AC)? thx mate
Interesting overview. I got my x570 Extreme4 for around 170 bucks brand new from a local store. So I didn't really had a choice. With newer BIOS memory oc became worse.
MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi -Good VRM, nice lighting, good OC, rear IO ok... I got it for £186, with Vallhalla, Farcry 6 and £25 steam code. I'd say hell of a deal.
Really really nice deal.
poor Gigabyte B550 Vision-D and poor me , when he started to talk about it he got distracted by the dual bios thing and forgot the complete his thought on this board
Hey BZ, there is any way that you can test the Beta BIOS of the X370 Taichi with your 5950X? Or the VRM is not capable of?
Great overview, but you missed the ASUS ROG Strix B550-A Gaming. It's supposed to be like a B550-F from what i researched, but in a white scheme - and it comes without wifi. I picked it up at 161€+shipping and there's a 45€ cashback deal from ASUS so it'll end up at ~120€. It's been ages since i've had a board this cheap, but I hope it'll run the 5950X well. Any opinions?
1:22:37. What a wonderful thing to discover after I've already bought my board.
Come on get your hands on a DARK, I really wanna know if its worth it over a Unify.
Thanks for the great content
Yo, buoldzoid Kun. I saw asrock has released the 4.6 bios that should support 5000 series AMD. Is there a possibility in the world that you test something like x470 with a zen 3? If there are any limiters on this combination in the real performance world?
Love listening to this in the background while i design tablet housing.
I had a 'looks' PC before, white + RGB, but now i got a performance pc after watching your vids.
Is there a possibility that you'll make a RAM OC guide (i have problem with sub timings)?
I had 2x8 Corsair White RGB (it cost me €124 when ram prices were high AF in 2018), that with XMP did 25GB/s + 95.7ns latency ... i chuckled when i checked it, after you mentioned in a vid that sub 70 is decent.
Now i have Crusial Ballistics 2x8 3600 CL16 (you suggested for a fire and forget XMP) on a Gigabyte x570 gaming pro ITX. I'm waiting formy 5600X to arrive, so my old 2600 (4.1Ghz @ 1.325V 24/7 *) can only do 3600, but i used DRAM calculator, that gave me cl14-17-17-34 + sub timings , but it gave me errors in memtest (did get 63ns 53GBs though) , and i have no idea how to fix it, so i just went back to XMP.
*same CPU could only run 4.1Ghz @ 1.4V on old MSI B450 Mortar for some reason.
Also, is there a way to stabilize GPU undervolting? I have a RTX 3080 Eagle OC stock Ghz + +800Mhz VRAM @ 825mv max on curve, and i get 1-2% more performance than 100Mhz OC + 800VRAM but 265W max (Unigine Superposition 14200 OC vs. 14550 UnderVolt). if i could i'd go lower for less power consumption.
I'm confused about what you said about running 4 x 16gb of bdie at high clock speed being really difficult. I thought b-die was supposed to be the fastest ram. Now based on what you said around the 21 minute mark in this video, that the memory controller can't keep up with b-die. I don't understand. Now what should I use in my build if I'm looking for max overclock?
even if i didn't watch the whole thing i recommend this video :D
can you tell me the difference between the b550 aorus pro v2 vs v1?
& the b550 aorus pro vs AC?
Hey question BuildZoid, I have the asus prime x570 p, running a 3600 & 3070. So my PSU only came with a 8 pin connector for the CPU, I’m looking to get the 5800x. Do I NEED the extra 4pin 12v for overclocking for either CPU’s?
If you had these two, what specific RAM would you recommend?
- Ryzen 5950x (cpu)
- Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero (motherboard)
You have no idea the smile on my face when you said the X570 Tomahawk was dethroned by the TUF Gaming Pro. I banked on the TUF Pro when I saw it launched mainly because of the Intel 2.5G LAN (Rev. 3 so no issues that Rev 1+2 had) and because it was actually in stock unlike the MSI. I also prefer Asus bios over MSI. I really wish you could get some photos of the VRM and go in-depth on it to see how it stacks up on that front.
Thank you for the video! I need ECC, so ASRock is the only options for me? And Asus x570 WS Ace.
hey i have a Question for you what kind of Fluke thermometer to read temps for ln2 Nitrogen ? i cant find any good one want to read atleast -196 C Thanks a lot man
So do you think its better to buy the X570 Asus vs the B550 for ITX?
Im looking for a B550 ITX and I dont like any of the 4 models :( Maybe the Asrock PG
When Buildzoid says "rear IO" you think of the back panel of a motherboard.
With others you're unsure.
Hey! I am a pure gamer, 1080p 144Hz FPS games. I have 4x8GB CL16 3600MHz Crucial Ballistix kit. Should I got for an ASRocK X570-Pro4 motherboard for the T-Topology or should I go with the B550 Aorus Pro-P for the better vram? (according to buildzoid advice I might say) running AMD 5600X btw.
Thanks!
Good evening first of all nice video ial looking for a X570 MB i have the x470 crosshair v11 and looking to get a new motherboard what type of RBG rams can i get for my board and whats a good MB with atl ease 6 USBs with wif Thanks
I bought the X570 Creation because of the Rear I/O layout and the plethora of connections. I don't do much OCing anyway, only the XMP profile on the memory.
You forgot the BEST feature about the Dark Hero BuildZoid. No chipset fan = dream come true for silent ninjas like me. :p
B550 Master is a beast at everything you said. The board is solid. The only issues I have had is with the Intel Bluetooth chipset. If you use standby the Bluetooth doesnt wake up and you'll need to power down completely (no power to board). This is actually a known issue with the Intel chipset where it doesnt sleep well.
I plan to use my PC as a high end workstation. No video editing, but will be running lots of VM's and hence looking at fast nvmes. The vision D is one of the best mobos. The ASUS (including Dark Hero) do not have a rich list of QVL for 4x 16 GB ram and seems to restrict most 16 GB or higher RAM sticks to 2 DIMM slots. E.G the Dark Hero does not support BL2K16G36C16U4RL Crucial which almost every other manufacturer supports. So yes, ASUS still has to ramp up their memory support (support just 1 vendor with 1x4GB for 5100 doesn't really count!)
I chose the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro WiFi MB because of the aesthetics, the rear I/O, the minimum RGB, the VRM cooling, the location of the 1st M.2 slot above the top PCI-E slot, multiple fan headers and of course WiFi. The only con is the chipset cooling fan and it's location. With my 2.5 slot 2070 Super Gaming OC video card installed 2/3rds of the chipset fan and half of the 2nd M.2 slot is covered up. Right now my chipset temp is 60.5 C. I haven't had any problems with this MB even updating the BIOS(s) is easy.
1:28:00 you say Asus fixed memory topology on the x570 tuf pro by seeing from the products page it is supporting 5100 O.C. I'm checking the x570 tuf gaming plus products page and it also supports that speed. Which x570 board from Asus had worse memory topology?
I love listening to you ramble about motherboards man. Plus you sound like if Jordan Peterson went into computer science instead of psychology
what do you guys recommend between GIGABYTE B550M AORUS PRO/ PRO-P, MSI B550M PRO-VDH/WIFI, ASRock B550M Pro4 I am planning to run a 5600x (if I could find one in stock) and 2x16GB 3200mhz cl16, I don't need mATX, I don't need wi-fi, I have 1Gb internet maybe that 2.5Gb port adds some value
Just bought a x570-A Pro. Wasn't much options in my price range on Newegg the other morning when I bought. Bought along with a 3600, 512gb Team Group(will be replacing with a better drive in the coming months, this will end up in my guest pc I'll be building next month) NVME drive, 16gb 3600mhz CL16(wanted to go for 32gb with two sticks, but just gonna settle with getting another pair of 8's in a couple weeks. Mainly blame this on stock and prices at time I purchased)
Gonna be pairing with the poor man's Aresgame AGV500(500w 80+ Bronze) for a short while until I get a much better psu. Gonna case it all in a Musetex Mesh.
Picked up a used Sapphire Nitro RX 480 8GB for $100.
My Rosewill Lightning 1300w psu finally took my old system with it, so had to basically build a new machine. Was running the good ol' i7-3930k @ 4.6Ghz paired with a Red Devil RX 480 8GB.
Haha! "As far as I'm concerned, this should be coming with a USB-Hub".
Fwiw, the x570 Taichi was actually available at $270 usd for a good part of this year, you're not crazy buildzoid. I actually bought one for that price in march this year.
Does B550 Aorus Pro v2 fix the issue of v1? There were some catastrophic problems with mobo killing ram, dropping USB, random freezes, etc.
😂 If you set the video to 0.25 speed it is actually reflecting me spending four hours on watching this back and forth.
Just kidding. As always you're doing a great job at this and it helps a fuck ton to select motherboards out of all this messy lineups. I really appreciate your help in this matter. Keep it up 👌👌👌👋
I was forced to buy ASRock X570 Taichi, it was the only MB that was available when i bought my 3900x. And it has seemed pretty good, no issues (thank goodness).
This a super noob question, but the boards that don't have an IO backplate, like the ASUS TUF X570 Pro, doesn't that let dust in, or are they just about looks? I imagine a computer without one would look pretty bad in the back. Is there any way to get a backplate if it doesn't come with the board?
I literally just picked up a 5900X, so this could not have been uploaded at a better time. :)
I'm just 2 hours away.
I want one!! What MB did you go with
I'd also like to know which MB you went with. I got a B550 Aorus Master, but it's got a weird USB condition and also the LAN port cuts out randomly throughout the day (replacement board also does this) to the point where you have to manually reset the adapter.
@@SlightlySaici In the end I was lucky enough to realize that my B450 Asus Gaming-F got a Ryzen 5000 compatible BIOS update and the VRM is good enough to comfortably use the 5900X so I didn't have to change mobos. If I had to buy one though based on my research I'd have went with B550 Aorus Pro v2 or B550 Tomahawk depending on the price difference at the time of purchase.
Hey i am building a pc for a friend right now that has a budget of 1000 Euros (we propably have to wait until february next year for the prices to settle a bit). I am trying to put a 3060ti in it.
I think the Ryzen 3600 would propably fit aswell unless the i5 alternative is cheaper right now because of less demand. The person doesnt care about overclocking at all and mostly just wants to play games. What basic motherboard should i use to stay in the budget but that does have some decent basic features? I thought of the MSI B550-A-Pro because it seems to be fine if you dont care about overclocking. Is it already too expensive if i want to fit a 450 euro GPU in that 1k Euro PC? Maybe someone from the community can help me.
I'll enjoy it to the very last second
Hey Buildzoid, is it true you can bios flash a X470 Taichi bios on a X370? Im considering flashing mine.
It wouldn't surprise me if it worked but I've not looked into it
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Thanks man. Just did a ram overclock (3466mhz) on Zen 1. Running a Memtest now. Gonna watch your video while the test runs :D
I wanna try it...
would love to hear how by how much % is your personal system overclocked. I want to OC, yet be able to maintain a stable system 12hrs a day. I looking to OC MOBO and Gaming systems but use my systems for running VM's and docker containers.
On the Gigabyte booting problem - my daughter's B450 Aourus ITX (approx two years ago) had this occasional problem while running an early release BIOS (fix was to clear BIOS and it happened often enough for me to put a switch in the case). When the BIOS was upgraded to a much later version it no longer happened...