The B550 boards that almost made it into the Gamer Nexus B550 round up
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00:00 Introduction
Here's a summary with the main flaws Buildzoid covered.
MSI
01:51 MSI Tomahawk (Only 5 USB Type A in Rear IO)
06:35 MSI Gaming Carbon WiFi (Too expensive for feature set $220USD)
Gigabyte
10:52 Gigabyte Vision D (Cut from original video. GN Thought too niche)
14:35 Gigabyte Aorus Master (Shitty Dual Bios. Too many PCI-E slots routed thru chipset)
21:10 Gigabyte Gaming mATX (No Idea it existed when shooting the GN video, "legit cool board", good for memory OC)
Asus
24:06 Asus ROG Strix E Gaming (Cut from original video. has SLi support. Expensive & niche. Ditto Vision D)
26:36 Asus ROG Strix F Gaming (hard to find at MSRP, $10 more than competition without more features)
Asrock
30:50 Asrock Steel Legend mATX (Bad VRM heatsink, MSI Mortar has better VRM & Internal Type-C)
32:35 Tangent to Asus TUF Gaming mATX, isn't part of list tho.
36:10 Asrock Taichi ($300USD, Too damn expensive)
40:37 Asrock Phantom Gaming ITX ($20 more expensive than Gigabyte ITX, Has Internal Type-C)
43:44 Conclusion / Summary
Thx
In Germany you can get the Asus ROG Strix F Gaming for around 125€. It's pretty much the best choice if you don't need frontside type c.
@@EDIIIZ where? That's the same price as b450!
Thx captain!!
@@Flynn.... Cashback, it's not really that cheap
"screw It, I don't care how long this video is going to be"
Now thats my Buildzoid!
Yooo the longer your vids are the more I have to listen to while doing something else. No problem with that! :D
“attentionspan of a goldfish “ this time Buildzoid roasted casuals
actually its more logic that causuals have a better attentionspan than hardcore multimedia adhsed youtube junkies.though that may depend on the very definition of causuals here
I haven't watched the entire GN video either, because I don't see why I would. I'm not interested in ITX boards, I'm not interested in the low end boards, I'm not interested in the very high end boards. If you cut buildzoid's videos down to the segment you personally need, he's actually pretty efficient at showing differences between options and helping to make an informed decision. I don't consider the total length of the video an issue, if I can just grab the information I need.
I had already seen several of his other videos, but that comment alone got me to subscribe... IJS
There’s too many videos to sit through one over 15 minutes unless you neeeeed to know
The video length problem could be solved by GN putting "Ft. Buildzoid" in the title. I'm actually serious
agreed lol
Random company: Makes PCIE post code extension
Buildzoid: Invest
That would be sick
@@UltraDXSASC They should start routing a shit ton of PCIE slots to the CPU and sell extensions for everything so you can make your motherboard custom to your needs
vatsal kejriwal Mmmmh, Treadripper Pro 128 PCIE 4.0 lanes. Just imagine what you could do with all those lanes!
s t o n k s
The only reason I've decided for the Asus B550-F is their cashback program in Germany. That's 30€ straight cashback, 25€ for a review and 10€ for an amazon review. At 65€ off, that board becomes very, very interesting. For the original asking price, I would've probably gotten the Gigabyte Pro for the apparently pretty good memory topology or the Tomahawk, because I've had positive experience with MSI in the past and it has an internal type C. Not that I would ever use the type C in my case anyway, but having a dead port in the front slightly triggers my OCD.
Oh, thanks. I was planning to get the Mortar, but now I'll probably go for the TUF. I'd prefer the Mortar, but with the cashback the TUF is more than 50€ less expensive. Hard to justify the Mortar then.
Lol, what? I just checked and in the UK I can get 75£ of cashback if I buy an Asus B550 board and a compatible CPU. That's nuts.
That's the exact reason why I went for the TUF Gaming Plus :D
@@bad-sackingen5892 If you buy a new CPU too, MSI has a 40€/50€ Steam-Voucher Promotion
Neeeein, wieso ist die Aktion vobei :(
After looking at the boards when they were announced, based on the hardware shown I made the decision to preorder (don't do this) the B550-A Pro. Seeing your recommendation after the fact validated my feelings of having learned something, ensuring confidence in my future purchasing decisions. I've learned a lot from you, and I'm sure there are many people here, myself included, pursuing greater technical knowledge who appreciate all that you do.
What are you gonna run on the B550-A Pro? Genuinely asking.
@@sondernfy I've just made the same decision. One of the cheapest full size atx boards, yet with really solid VRMs. I really don't think I'll have any problem with this board. I'm running 5800x. With PBO, I don't even need to overclock. CPU gives really nice boosts itself.
Oh yeah, my body is ready. I need a 2 hour version, screw Steve, we want rants
TBH, I would watch every second of that vid, love his rants! :D
Funny thing about the B550M Steel Legend, it's not even the VRM or its heatsink that gets hot with an overclocked 3950X, it's the PCB underneath. Components are just too close. The VRM doesn't have a problem (and to be fair, the PCB temperatures are even in check, they're just higher than any other board in its price class)
For a 3900X OC and below it's a fine board. But for an overclocked 3950X I'd expect it to desolder itself in a few years.
ok, is b550m steel legend good to go with r9 3900x?
in stock, not overclock?
If I were looking to OC a 3900X or 3950X, I would think folks should be considering an X570 MB. The only OC’ing that I do is PBO and the memory.
The ground PCB plane is used to cool down the VRMs too. The chips (mosfets and driver) have a big contact point underneath to help transfer heat from the chip to the PCB.
A 46 minute video of Buildzoid roasting bad VRM heatsink designs - nice!
Awesome, coffee in the morning and your video
Haha, same. Just brewed some nice coffee to stay sane.
12:50 Love that apple joke.
Not quite a year later, I went with Asus B550-F for $178.00 paired with a 5800X. A 5600X would have made more sense but I wanted all the parts at the same time instead of spread out over a couple weeks, or more. I saved by pinching the Noctua NH-D14 and GTX Titan X from the old system. I've been watching all your videos to build up the courage to start overclocking the RAM beyond its XMP profile (F4-3600C14D-16GTZNB)
Could you make just a comparison of ITX boards? Very much looking forward to an itx build in the NZXT H1 but putting the itx board in woth the regular sized ones makes it difficult to compare them as they are fully snowed under in the mass
me: I want to sleep
Builzoid: no, you don't
I'm gonna repeit myself here as well in case someone didn't see it on GN channel with the big roundup.
For the mATX boards I do think the Steel legend is a very viable board in many cases as the other two have some pcie limitations
MSI B550m Mortar:
+Good VRM
+First slot is 16x (many cases are limited with the 16x in the second position)
!- 4x slot disable second M.2. So only one m.2 SSD or no pcie expansion (except for one 1x if it fits with the graphics card).
!- only 2 USB 3 5gbit at the back (+1 usbc 10gbit USB and one using USB a) but have one USB c internal header
Asus B550m Tuf gaming
+Good VRM.
+4 USB 3 5gbit at the rear
!- Placement of 16x slot is limiting in many smaller mATX cases, including mine, Otherwise my first choice
!- 1x slot (top one) limit 4x slot to 2x if a cars is used in the first 1x.
B550M Steel legend
+First slot is 16x
+4 USB 3 5gbit at the rear
+2 internal USB 3 5gbit
+ No bandwidth or lane limitation for pcie slots or SSDs like the other two boards
+ RGB on the board for those that like that.
!- But the second m.2 is only 2x (or sata) but I think this is the least limited 4x + m.2 configuration of the three boards.
!- Worse VRM.
!- Wifi have to be added through a m.2 card and antennas, but it is a specific slot so it still allows you to use 2 m.2 SSDs + Wifi
!- Don't know if it have a flashback feature, couldn't fin it
Personally, I would have loved to use the ASUS TUF board but the placement of the 16x prevent me in my in win 301 as it would come to far down in the case and rob airflow from the bottom fans. The MSI Mortar would be good if the rear wasn't so limited of USB ports, If I want to use my Rift I use ALL USB 3 10gbit+5gbit on the rear and would need a add-in card...in the 4x slot, which would remove the option to run 2 m.2 drives.
So for me the only one of the boards I can run without sacrificing an m.2 or have compatibility issues with is the B550m Steel legend. But it should be good enough for a 8-10 core with PBO I hope.
Hope someone else found this helpful.
Seems like the B550m Steel legend is not far off the MSI and ASUS so I wouldn't be too worried about the VRM for most users:
th-cam.com/video/wiPeOaLbMeo/w-d-xo.html
I looked at video length on gn and I was like "oh, buildzoid is making gn content again"
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
As I have to buy a new MB I was looking for the Aorus Master and it's the first time that someone mentioned the double bios.
I think that, at this point, the Aorus PRO is the best choice possible.
Again, thank you!
Did you buy it? How was the software? And the RGB fusion?
@@scale...3d I bought the Aorus Master (X570) in the end. I found it at a good price :)
One of the most popular mITX cases is the NZXT H1 and it has a type C port. So do many others.
If you have a case with a Type C port, you really want to use it instead of it going to waste.
I love you Buildzoid lol for every reason :P
yo thanks I was wondering where the b550 tomahawk and the b550-f strix were in the original video
ASRock lists post status checker LEDs feature on their website for products that don't actually have that feature: ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming ITX/ax
Interesting your review B550 mATX motherboard for upcoming APU
Bought the MSI Tomahawk over the Asus Rog Strix F even though the Asus board was 30NZD cheaper. The Gigabyte Aorus Pro was out of stock but never would have bought it anyway. Had bad experiences with Asus and Gigabyte. Asus boards like to only last for a week for me and Gigabyte boards like to only last a year. Even though the boards are under warranty, its a bloody pain in the arse to go through the process. Heres to hoping a pleasant and reliable experience with the MSI board as I have heard all but positives.
Hi Bulldzoid!
Thanks for sharing your advice. I'm about to buy a B550, and watching your videos I didn't get it clearly between MSI B550-A pro and Asus B550 tuf, which one has the best VRM thermal management. I don't care about maximum Amps they can feed, only about thermals that can remain at good level with small OC (8 core cpu and maximum 1.4volts)
Asking this because you suggested the MSI one as "entry point" for B550, I couldn't find any review of it, but the x570 version of MSI A-PRO has really bad thermal on VRM reaching 108 degrees on online reviews.
Thanks so much!
28:21 The only reason I am considering this board over the Aorus Pro is because this has an Intel 2.5GBe NIC instead of a Realtek one, which I am not sure will work with Linux that well if at all.
"when you hire someone who used to work at apple -- that ain’t a heat sink", only if you knew how triggered apple R&D are
I have a question, these new TRX40 CPUs(3960X / 3970X / 3990X) how much current do each of them draw from the VRM at stock and at OC?
Buildzoid, do you make t-shirts that say "Postcode fanboi" or something with a postcode and that shut up and take my money meme?
So is the Gigabyte b550m gaming better than the asrock b550m pro4?
All I want is a VRM that won't get in the way of a 6 core Zen 3 when it comes out.
Thank you!
4:13 "... really big cube..."
*We are the Borg*
What is the process for deciding which of your videos get posted to Gamers Nexus and which get posted here on your own channel?
I think the B550 itx from asrock has one big advantage over the Gigabyte and that's air cooler compatibility. It also has one big downside and that's horizontal sata right up against the board edge. It's a trade-off to be certain but it's worth noting.
Thanks a lot, sir.
when I watched your first impression video, you said getting B550 Aorus Pro is better than the Aorus Master, yet you didn't mentioned this at all in this video, is it because it's too expensive ?
also the ASUS B550-F costs around $260 here for the wifi version (non wifi version currently not available), so is it worth to buy at that price now ?
The vision d is beautiful.
I wanted it... Why wasn't it a x570 Mobo instead?
@@sweetyfox7058 Yeah should have been x570. With dual 2.5G... Hnngh.
@@sweetyfox7058 have you you seen the w480 vision d its even better
Paul Robertsons The Z490 Vision G has similar looks. Here’s hoping more manufacturers make mobos that look like them and the NZXT N7 motherboards.
i thought u liked intel lan vs realtek and asus strix-f only board that has it why not recomend it?
I watch your videos while I'm gaming.😎
I got the Tomahawk because it was on sale. Its paired with a Ryzen 5 3600. I am running Patriot Ram @ 3600mhz cl14. Recovery works great on the Tomahawk btw XD (failed a few times with the mem OC)
Hi, can I get recommendation on future build for MoBO on R5 3600/5700 XT Nitro+. I'm pointing some B550, but it is wide selection, and I don't have idea about that. I looking to be some mid-range, about 150e, with WiFI (if is possible). About brands, only not to be ASRock. I would happy to receive answer, thanks.
To be fair it seems like you are tailoring what you recommend on a much different upgrade schedule to the average user. I think the Taichi in particular might be a good buy in the 300 range even with x570 because Intel lan, no funky dual bios like the aorus master more sata than unify which has Realtek lan. Also internal usb c which most cases are currently adding and most phones and external ssds will soon support. If spending 300 on a mobo you would want to it have enough features to last a few years right?
in my country, mortar is $30 more expensive than steel legend, is it worth go mortar?
where does the postcode thingie connects to anyway? i know there are isa/pci/pcie postcode cards but are the integrated ones different?
hi can i ask you whats your opinion on asus tuf b550 plus ?love your work
Is the Gigabyte Gaming mATX a good purchase for a total noobs first build? thinking of pairing it with the Ryzen 3600. don't know anything about overclocking but I can definitely look into it afterwards
Would there be any reason to go for an mAtx board instead of an Atx board when I have an Atx case? Do mATX B550 boards have better price performance ratios?
The B550 Taichi is now $259 then $229 AR on newegg. A much better deal now for that board considering post codes, flashback, clear cmos buttons?
Anyone knows how VRM changed in Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro V2 vs previous version V1? Can not find good information and not sure if it is still great VRM and how it influence temperatures?
I'm planning to get ryzen 5600x, which board u recommend me to buy: b550 aorus pro, b550 asus strix f gaming, b550 steel legend and b550 msi gaming edge wifi. All boards are 160-165 euros, or u recon something else.
does a 2 slot MB improve overall timings for memory overclocking or just the max. frequency? (does it always help (tighter timings) or just push the max. frequency beyond what makes sense due to the infinity fabric?)
just found this
th-cam.com/video/3vQwGGbW1AE/w-d-xo.html
nice explanations regarding memory layout, by now I'm fairly sure 1-DPC(DIMM per channel) also allows for stricter timings, but it would be nice to have a confirmation from someone with experience ^^
i would have liked to hear more tha the first overview on the b550m prime A since it got nice features for. non OCer and since its asus its the one i recomend the most for 135€ price point
I was reading the specs and unfortunately the type C internal on the MSI MAG m-atx is a gen 1 port not a gen 2. I guess for charging at least it doesn't matter, but transfers speeds eh, id wish I had the gen 2 on front rather than at the back.
I got a Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master for a bit over $100 US used a few weeks ago. It's a great motherboard! I can't wait to populate all the nvme slots! The only problem is there's no usb-c front panel header! I don't know how they could have left that out, so I have a useless usb-c slot on the top of my pc now!
Got the MSI MPG B550 Gaming Edge WiFi. Hardware Unboxed round up had the Gaming Edge WiFi the top performing VRM design for $180 boards - competing with $270 boards like the Taichi. The MSI Gaming Carbon WiFi had worse performance than the Tomahawk even though it had more phases.
I have a budget up to 180-190$.
What mb would you recommend for Ryzen 9 3900x in stock, no overclocking?
Please i wait for your advice.
Hello Buildzoid, do you happen to have any information about the new B550 mainboards that popped up a few weeks ago?
Like the:
Asus ROG Strix B550-XE Gaming WiFi
Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite (V2)
Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite AX
Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite AX (V2)
Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro (V2)
Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AX
Gigabyte B550 Gaming X (V2)
MSI MAG B550 Torpedo
(I only listed the ATX board, there are a few "new" µATX and mATX mainboards aswell.)
It's interesting how a brands quality varies up and down the price point.
In my country the Steel Legend is roughly 25$ cheaper than the Mortar, is it still worth it to go for the Mortar?
Thank you for doing that! What about the MSI Gaming Edge WiFi? Is it worth it?
It's basically Tomahawk with WiFi (and without the extra LAN port).
@@RunawayYe that was my thoughts also, and I am really glad with the mobo.
@@River_Miles No it has a new design, it's basically the same board as the new B550-A Pro, watch the newer HU videos they made reviewing the main B550 boards, TLDR - MSI redeemed themselves
What or why is that 4 pin power connector next to the 8 pin? Is it necessary?
Thanks
same here i still don't get why motherboard manufacturer didn't include post codes anymore. it saves your head and it used to come with almost every atx motherboard yet nowdays you can't find that stuff in reasonably priced motherboard. you need to spend more to get post codes
2:27 technically there's 9 if you count the 2 USB 2.0 headers and use a 4 Port USB A Female Slot Plate Adapter as amazon calls it.
i herd it has a decent vrm, its one of the reason i bought it for reliability in long term use even though I'm not doing any overclocking, maybe later down the road though.
So guys is the b550m bazooka the same as the b450m mortar? Ans is the b550m pro 4 better than both? 4+2 on the msi boards vs 6+2 on the pro4
Is this the place we will see a rant video b550 vs x570 ?
I got the B550 Vision D, its amazing value for money.
RE: usb ports
IO ports are a standard size right...... so when we had motherboards 7 years ago which had....PS2, 12 usb ports, Ethernet, 3 wifis, clr cmos and bios flashback there is no excuse why you cant have that today (and have 80% of that on an ITX).
www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/rear-IO-1.jpg or
images.anandtech.com/doci/9278/ASUS%20X99%20RVE%20-%20IO_575px.png
I think my Maximus VIII impact is a great example of a fantastic ITX rear IO, with the one caveat that it should have had 2-4 more USBs.
They could've moved the SPDIF to in front of the U.2 which is near the back and made more USBs above the HDMI, or just removed U.2 entirely for M.2 and put a full stack of USBs there. Otherwise it's fantastic. Post code exists, power and reset available for benching along with flashback/CMOS, and still has wifi, audio (digital and analog), video out, lan...
Even my cheap 140€ Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 7 from 5 years ago had 8 USB ports on the I/O, post code, M.2 slot, Front USB 3.0, 2.0, Dual Bios, 8xSATA, etc. These new boards offer a lot less for higher price.
@@Matruchus I'm going to counteract my own post a little with a caveat......rear IO ports take up space on a PCB so a 4-high stack of usb takes up about 50% more space than a 2-high and if anyone has had a 4-high stack they should know you cant always use all 4 at the same time, you'll always find a usb stick or wifi dongle or "gaming mouse" usb thats got a fat chunky end so blocks the other 2 usb ports from being used (like that fat fuck in the middle seat on an airline flight).
But for the most part you get the same problem with 2-high ports anyway (we need 2-3 ports spaced) its still doable and its upto consumers to use extensions for these devices. If I have 8 usb ports I'm usually good, I can make do with 6 and I wouldnt know what to do with 10 (my x99 sli plus).
Seriously you need a mouse, keyboard, controller, mic... and 6 webcams? thats some wierd show right there.
It’s so weird. Now that I think about it what the hell is the point of having both 2.5G and 1G Ethernet? Surely they could’ve ripped one out and stuck in a few extra USB ports
@@jlu a network with multiple subnets or vlans, or totally redundant connections. Sometimes uncommon and especially non gigabit chipsets don't have drivers by default or at all (the latter esp with less common OSes).
Definitely not common enough that I think many mainstream boards should have it, especially at the cost of other IO. But they exist.
It's weird. Recommended the MSI MATX board because it has internal type C (which almost no MATX case uses) but cuts the ASRock ITX board because there's no reason for an internal type C. I can think of a ton of ITX cases with front panel type C.
Your focus is typically on power delivery. Totally get it. If you're not in tune with all the case features, a lot of these board features won't make sense.
Your voice is amazing
“Buildzoid here” ....if you’re ever in trouble just say “apple fan here” and we’ll know you’ve been kidnapped
why everyone ignores msi b550 gaming plus? there is not even 1 review about this mb. can you look into it?
Yes I wonder why. What in the heck. still no feedback on this. Anyways, I ended up buying it. I won't be able to test it yet but from newegg there's some user reviews.
Its main differences versus the Tomahawk are:
It has more usb ports;
weaker audio (I don't know to what extent, either way I don't care);
less RAM overclocking capabilities (4400 max vs 5100, as if I'll ever even reach 4400 lmao);
"only" 1G LAN;
less layers of "PCB with 2oz Thickened Copper" (whatever that is, really);
B550 Vs x570 mb recommendations. Aware that some of us preferred to have x570 as b550 prices are similar
About Asrock ITX: Gigabyte's has Realtek while Asrock's has Intel. Realtek LAN is a deal breaker to use on Linux for me.
The Intel I225-V LAN chip has had a lot of problems and by getting a board with it you're playing the lottery if you get the old or revised one (I'm not even sure if the revised one fixed the problem, or if it's shipping yet actually).
Dealbreaker for me too on Windows :P
And AsRock's new BIOS is pretty good now.
"According to the advisory, there is a variance in the interval between data packets transmitted on the physical layer. This variance can cause packet loss, resulting in reduced throughput. Interestingly, the IPG variance is seen only when the PHY is networked with select kinds of 2.5 GbE compliant routers and switches."
So it is basically a non-issue (for individuals) as the vast majority of people do not have 2.5GbE compliant routers and if they decide to get one in the future they can choose a brand where the issue does not occur.
The issue is alos avoided running in 1GBE mode
@@zig131 Are you referring to Realtek like OP or Intel like @Runaway?
the driver is supposed to be in the 5.8 kernel
B550 Aorus Master: who needs 3x M.2 slots connected to CPU? Video Editors!! Video editors making complex projects from many source videos like to have a 3xSSD arrangement:
(1) OS/Application
(2) Media
(3) Scratch
It's generally less necessary for the Scratch drive to be ultra high speed (SATA SSD is usually fine), but since PCIe doesn't support a 12x slot, if you want a second NVME for Media, you will waste 4x lanes if you don't break those out for a third NVME.
IDK, people might use it, but it's completely niche IMO. It's easier (and can be cheaper) to go for X570 and use the PCIE x4 lanes downstream of the chipset for NVME drives.
Whats the best B550 or X570 ITX with front panel USB C ?
On where i live, the Tomahawk is $5 cheaper than both Aorus Elite and Strix-F ( both have same prices). Hmmm.....
Oh well, I really don't mind MSI Tomahawk lack of usb ports. Only uses it for keyboard, mouse & webcam that's it. Other usage of usb ports will come from my PC case anyway. VRM thermals is more important than having 7 or more usb ports. I just wished they've used Intel LAN rather than Gigabit Realtek LAN and put a WIFI instead of 1gb LAN since Mortar does have one and way cheaper
That's the one part I don't get about the B550 Tomahawk. The Z490 Tomahawk offers 2.5 Gig Realtek and 1 Gig Intel, that makes sense. Why would you put another 1 Gig of the same vendor onto the board? Especially when it's not people's preferred vendor?
+1 To Intel Lan over Realtek
-1to putting Wifi on a board aimed at gamers
ASRock have the right idea; including a M.2 Key-E slot so nutters can buy and add their own wireless adapter (same as you get in laptops) if they feel the need - so everyone else doesn't have to pay for their wireless urges. Unfortunately ASRock are using Realtek Ethernet on everything but the stupidly expensive Taichi so...
@@marceldiezasch6192 As I understand, the 1GB Intel Ethernet for AM4 (by necessity has more components than the one for Intel boards) is somewhat pricey and costs similar to Realtek 2.5G. Adding 1GB Realtek was probably trivial cost-wise but adding 1GB Intel wouldn't be. I mean I agree with you - they should have gone with Intel - but they probably decided not to due to costs.
what about the Gaming Edge WiFi? did it get overlooked or is it just bad?
I have MSI tomohawk b450 max. I am using 2700x on it. I am getting very high VRM tempretures in prime95 like above 103c. cpu temps are only 81c. any suggestions?
Prime95 is a heavy stress test and it melts almost all vrms anyway. Just get hwinfo and log your temps in real workflow. You should be around 80c no problem. Also a better airflow around the mobo will help.
15:05 relatable, completely pain in the a**. Fortunately my z370 aorus gaming 7 has the reset cmos button, otherwise I'll be going bald due to this lol.
Please do a B450 vs B550 value comparison, Buildzoid!
When willing to spend on b550, a better comparison is with x570 for similar prices. Why b450? Paying less for more?
Recent history has me fiending for BIOS flash buttons on my motherboards.
5 USB type-A ports, but DUAL LAN! The recent Tomahawk boards for you!
I would like to see more A ports on the rear aswell, but 5 is enough gor most people.
1 for mouse, 1 for keyboard, 1 for headset (I prefer 3.5jack tho), 1 for printer and 1 extra.
And you can have like 4 type As and 1C at the front for stuff like flash drives etc.
So even Steve couldn’t watch a full length Buildzoid video 😂🤣...
Does anyone know why there are no reviews of the msi b550 gaming edge wifi? It's one of the boards I can find in my area but just cant find reviews :/ new to building a PC so i dont know exactly if it's good
I don't get it either. It must be because the supply just isn't out there yet.
@@tincanable I guess. But these guys usually get them from the company directly so stock wouldn't matter I think. Net even in the online looking at pics and specs stuff.
@@River_Miles yeah that is exactly why I want someone to review it. I saw the msi page but as this will be my first time building a pc I dont know how to tell if a mobo is good or not. I keep checking TH-cam everyday :'(
Welp I wanted to buy the ROG B550-E because of VRM, the fact that it's Asus so it's a familiar thing and the post code display. Guess will have to do more research
Apparently with B550 its either internal type C or 2 extra ports on rear io (which is what you see on asus boards with -E and -F)
E has internal type C.
I dont know if you know but on msi tomahawk/mortar if you use two m.2 slots the last pcie slot become unusable. So the matx steel legend has the advantage of being able to use all slots( i think u lose sata slot but idc)
So what's the best Micro Atx Board he recommends?
..... Buildzoid "I like Intel LAN"
on Asus B550-f... "I don't see a reason"
.... Intel 2,5 GB LAN instead of Realtek?
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“This didn’t make it because I didn’t think it exists” lol most legit reason ever
wish all m.2 slots on my x570 went directly to the cpu, right now my pcix4 m.2 goes through the chipset.
MSI's choice with USB is what made me not consider them. What the F is wrong with their mind: FIVE USB's. FIVE. The average person will have an USB and mouse plugged in the back. That leaves three for everything you might have. Which seems enough, but no, stuff damn adds up if you play games! I have 8 devices plugged regularly between my graphics tablet, the tablet's wireless dongle, my flight sim usb devices...
What u think about msi b550 gaming plus? Is it good mobo?
I don't really need a post code. I'm probably not even gonna do a lot of ocing. And I love all my ports, especially the usb and 2.5g lan
The Audiochip should be to be considered to. Some of the boards had the 1200 and not the 1220 chip. 1220 is delivering better headphone audio on the front headers.
Very curios to as why you would generally need more than 5-6 usb a ports on the rear io.
VR headsets eat up a bunch.
why its asrock b550 extreme 4 do not make it? its look like slightly better than steel legend and 5$ difference here
What about the b550m aorus pro tho? Seems nice