In regard to Crucial Ballistix kits, you can check if a kit you just bought is dual rank or not before opening it. There is an extension code right next to the part number. Only the part number is advertised, but you can see the extension code on the memory sticks through the packaging without opening it. Examples: BL2K16G36C16U4B. *M8FB1* vs BL2K16G36C16U4B. *M16FE1* That ''8'' and ''16'' is the number of memory chips per stick. (16 = dual rank). ''B'' means Micron rev B ''E'' means Micron rev E
Knowing what rank each memory kit is would be useful for us with high end ITX builds. They have only two ram slots so we cannot just buy two kits and get dual rank speeds that way.
I have 2 kits of 4500 gskill.. purchased at the same time. With consecutive serial numbers.. and one kit is a1 PCB and the other is A2 PCB. So there are 100% no guarantees just buying two of the same kit will all be the same.
@Azzamits sk hynix cjr still great up there with same Samsung just as good just a about the same little behide www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/a4z89t/hynix_cjr_looks_great_very_close_to_bdie_presets/ still a bit better than the 3.31v one i got and sent back happy
@Azzam you cleary didnt look it up very much or at the reddit post they tight up nicely from what ive read/seen iam yet to try it my self ill let you know but from what ive seen its on par just behide which is great
Reminds me, one of you past vids about the MSI z490 unify inspired me to buy an eBay pair of 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3200c16 with dual rank samsung B die at the beginning of the year. I haven't tried pushing it to high voltages, but they happily run at 4133c17 at around 1.4v (with low SA and IO voltages). Couldn't be happier for under a hundred dollars for 32gb of dual rank at that everyday speed, and wouldn't have thought of it without this channel.
normie understanding of video, 1) if you want 100% dual rank you'll have to go with 4x8GB or 2x32GB gigs. 2) Higher mhz means higher bin quality which translate to better overclock 3) don't buy 2400mhz ram, it's trash 3) secondary timings just as important as cas if not more. 4) buy crucial for high compatibility 5) buy g.skill if you are looking for fancy b-die
3). Had to for someone, we did an super el cheapo build so 2400 15-15-15-35 at 1.2V is the best bin I could find for the rock bottom prices. We'll see if and how it overclocks. 5). My personal build has that fancy b-die, thank you.
Thanks a lot pro , does 3200 mhz part of the high frequency? I’m thinking to buy 4x8gb crucial basilisk for better compatibility but unfortunately they don’t provide 4 rams kit only 2 per kit ?
Nice idea in paper, but as the ram is not horizontal, the LM may well run.. Also a Cpu cooler clamps at muuuch higher pressure Vs ram heatsinks, so more reason that it might leak.
Went with 4x8 3600 c14. running at 3800 c14 14 14 28 52 trfc 262 . I do agree with you, 32gb of ram took me 18 hours to just validate that my overclock is stable " 2000% memtest on each thread ", BTW thanks for the video ! EDIT: XMP wouldnt be stable
Oldschool mice did not have a 3rd button / wheel so there is possibility bz is using an old mouse. He might scroll with pg up/ down buttons on keyboard or even worse using arrows *eugh* /jk
@El Cactuar Nah, i'm only 40yrs and i agree with him. We didn't even have scroll wheels to click at the time of windows 3.11 so why would we need to click it now? Actually i much more prefered the actual mouse middle button of the 90s for gaming instead of the useless scroll wheel thats only good for browsing web, which you could do just as well with arrow keys. Bring back mice with three on top buttons! Yeah! No? Okay, then.
@@sp00n Yeah. I got mine to 3600 CL14-15-14-28 @ 1.46V. But if I use only 2 sticks, I easily reach 3866 CL16 @ 1.44V (didn't bother to optimise sub-timings as it was just a quick test)
@@aaron_333 I was able to achieve 3600 MHz/14-14-14-26-7-7-28-320-32767-T1*/1.45 V using 4X16 GiB G.Skill Ripjaw V kit and it passed Firestrike and Time Spy without any ill effects. My VCCSA/VCCIO/uncore voltage was set to 1.25 V for both tests. *7: tRRD_S/tRRD_L; 28: tFAW; 320: tRFC; tREFI: 32767; force memory retraining enabled; all other timings set to auto.
@@NUCLEARARMAMENT Yea I'm able to get my 4000Mhz C17 sticks to 3600Mhz CL 14-14-14-14-28 at 1.435v at T1 and all that. I could go even faster but I think my 5950x's memory controller is already crying in agony along with my wallet and it runs into stability issues with memory tests. Honestly considering it's well below the 8ns speed with over 99.9999% of the ram tested for 0 errors I'm happy. Edit: real world speeds in the low 50s iirc in ns. I think 52 but it's beena hot minute lol.
I have the G Skill 3600 Cl 16-16-16-36 kit, and it is dual rank and will do Cl 14-14-14-30 and 288 tRFC at 1.47v. Great kit, gets me to 53ns latency on my X570i Strix. Highly recommend for Ryzen
Im not overly knowledgeable on ram timings and such but using my motherboards manufactor support sheet I looked through possible 2x16GB kits that had B die, grabbed a corsair pair straight from their website, the LPX. I dont know where I heard this but I got told somewhere, that specifically the 2x16GB 3200mhz CL16 lpx kits from corsairs website only (weird ik) are always B die only specifically those sticks, I can say the ones that are in my PC using thaiphoon burner read as B die that could just be luck though and the ones in my Mrs PC is also B die again that could just be pure luck they were purchased at least 1 year apart but both off of corsairs website rather than amazon or such...
You are correct that ICs could be different in the same stick SKU even in DDR2 days. I had one stick in a 2x2GB G.Skill kit that was replaced under warranty with a stick made with different ICs.
Did you find any eventual problems or indicators or problems while overclocking the 4 sticks? That's my main concern currently, as I'm missing only the memory sticks to finish my build
Interestingly PC part picker doesnt list my RAM kit: 2x16GB GSkill B-die Ripjaws 4000 17-18-18-38 - F4-4000C17-16GVKB Managed to snatch a set before christmas for 250€ Buildzoid actually missed the kit at 43:38, going for 279 atm
Nanya(Patriot Viper 3200 cl16) and Sk Hynix(Corsair Vengeance 3200 cl16) are what's reported in cpuz . Used Ryzen Dram calculator and my system works at 3266 4x8GB cl16. It wouldn't even post before . To me , that seems like black magic and i am happy. Buildzoid will help you identify the best ram based on speed/timing etc.
I bought 2x16gb Crucial ballistix black and they were single ranked. Returned them and bought 2x16gb G.Skill Ripjaws V and they are dual ranked so those were the ones I settled on. They are Hynix C-die.
CMK64GX4M2Z4000C18 is Micron Rev B. Bought a pair before they disapeared of the face of the earth. 3733 RAM/1866 IF 16-18-18-36-1T tRFC 582 (5600x) Tuned system latency 60-62ns.
Your opinions on my opinion... as that currently RAM keeps the price so well right now, just buy the full sets, and sell your old odd set, if upgrading from 1 to 2 or 2 to 4 etc sticks. PS, Kingston RAM is noted on their website as to if it's 64 or 128 bit (single or dual rank).
Cool educational video about DRAM. I agree that memory manufacturers should tell us what type of die the RAM is. I would like to know if it's Micron-E, Samsung B-Die, and etc. Also, last year, I took your advice and bought a 2x8 Viper Steel 4400 MHz kit for $135 for a future build.
the 3600cl16\3200cl14 trident bdies are what is mostly in stock. the 4000cl16 is a unicorn and the subtimings are not as tight. what about a few minutes about those?
As a RAM noob, it is INFURIATING trying to track down specs and actual chips on the sticks when buying. You go to the manufacturer sites and get the most vague specs imaginable. Is there a good reason or is it just business practice that stays vague to bait and switch constantly?
The latter. It's a super cut throat market. Outside of very high end kits, they make tiny profit margins, and rely on volume. If they can increase their margins by 0.1%, it's worth changing the chips that day. Before heatspreaders took off, they'd burn off the top of the packages, and put their own branding on the chips, to hide what you got.
@@TokenaiNamae Would have went with 3600 cl14 but had 8 slots to fill, it doubled cost over 3200 cl14. Went with 3200 cl14 Royals. thinking I can get at least 3600 OC or better. Thanks for your thought.
Trident z neo, 3600 c16 19 19 39, djr, running at 3800 16 19 16 36, 1.36v with tightened timings lime tfaw and trcd, 1cmd, loving it. Wanted b die, but hey? Lol. Thanks bz
Yo man, that is exactly the kit I'm looking at since it's the only one affordable, do you think getting 3800 is doable on all of them? Since my goal is exactly what you're running.
I recently viewed not so impressive reviews of RGB SSD and major heat related issues, won't mention product. Not here to throw anything under the bus. This led me to disadvantages of RGB memory cards and heat related issues, could be minimal but I think it its a worthwhile to look into. @BZ, know you don't care for suggested request, but there it is.
A couple of days ago i came across a 2x16gb trident z rgb 3200 MHz cl14 kit for 220 Euro (~280$) and i thought, that must be b-die, lets get into RAM OC
For the GSKILL TridentZ kits, i know that if the code name ends with C (e.g. F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC) then the chips are SK Hynix. If there is no C I think it means Samsung but I'm not sure if it's always the case. Taking the tridentz neo 32G 2600 C15, there's two variants: the F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC, and the F4-3600C16D-32GTZN. The second one should be Samsung B-die.
@@plu2 I used to have the royal version of that kit before upgrading. Yes they are b dies and I have overclocked that set to 3800Mhz CL16 or so at 1.45v. not insanely bumpy in performance but no slouch too. I could do 3800Mhz with CL14 but looser timings were required even at 1.5v.
You can open links in a new tab by pressing down on the middle mouse button. You can also close that tab with the middle mouse button. It drives me nuts when you right click and open in new tab. :)
I got really lucky, with some G.SKILL Sniper X F4 3200 cl16 2x16, according to typhoon burner it is Samsung B-die. I still have to tickle them a bit to let them run faster.
Has anyone tried taking higher clocked kits, e.g., a DDR4 4000 or 4266, but downclocking it to 3600 or 3800 speeds and then seeing how much the timings can be tightened up if paired with a small voltage bump?
We all Know the best Ram Kits for either Amd or intel butt i gambled back in February 2020 & went with 32gb CL16 Xpg Z1 Ram ( Nothing Special ) butt Run good for $130.- Ny bucks decent Price at that time with a R7-3700x running at 4.5ghz @ 1.375v with 240r Aio Liquid Cooler keeping temps under 73c ..... i’m new to OverClocking butt i’m Cool with my Pc’s Performance 🍷
G.Skill royal / neo / RGB are pretty much all the same sticks with different shells. Even the LED diffuser from royals work on the other ones. 3600 32GB kit is dual rank H5AN8G8NCJR 16-19-19-36
I also have the same one, Royal Gold. It was the last one and is very rare. Still have to test it though, currently I'd like to finish with OC capabilities of the 4 single rank kits I also have. I think they go in this order: 3600 14-15-15 1.45V = 3800 14-16-16 1.5V = 4266 17-18-18 1.5V > 4000 16-19-19 1.4V > 4000 17-18-18 1.4V > 4000 19-19-19 1.35V
Some people say it is ok to mix memory but I like to keep it all as much the same as possible. I never had a memory error because of that. It probably helped that when I bought my 32 GB of DDR3, I got it as all at once from the same seller as if it was a kit. That was of course back before the market became the shitstorm of scalping that it is now.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking True, maybe I overstated my case but my impression is that there's still a fairly significant number of people that do care enough that they've heard of Samsung B-Die for example and having that label on a memory kit would be meaningful to them.
Crucial was actually wiling to help me when Amazon sold me 2 2x16 kits of RAM and one kit was single rank and one was dual rank.I really didn't feel like running on 16GB of backup RAM I had laying around while I waited for them to send me a new kit to match the dual rank kit. Now I'm just running 3 ranks on each channel. The kits were supposed to be the same SKU (BL16G36C16U4RL.M16FE), but one kit was BL16G36C16U4RL.M8FB1, which is single rank. Still pretty good performance though on Z590.
Just picked up two sets of these on Newegg, since it's crucial it should be the same memory modules and hopefully it'll play well together at it's rated speeds in dual rank D: Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G36C16U4W (WHITE)
I have not picked the 4000c17-GTZR but c19-16GTRS. Lists as Dual Ranks in GPU-z and is happy to run at 1.212V instead of XMPs 1.35. So 4000c19d-32GTRS kit which, to my surprise is listed for over 600bucks in this video. And well its a Samsung. The S stands for silver. Guess the R for royal and the T for trident, who have thought.
Even with an explanation its super hard to choose I want 4x8gb (2x2x8gb only saves about $10 here, so I'll take the 4x8 safety). I keep flipping between $250 for 3600 cl18-22--22-34, $369 for 3600 cl16-16-16-36 or $578 for cl14-14-14-36. I hate hover spending, but I also don't want to shoot myself in the foot and with 11th gen I don't want to have to worry about 2nd great by going over 3600. I'll probably go the CL14 kit incase I get stuck with my first ram overlock. then I can fall back to the XMP.
I have a 2x16gb kit of Ripjaws V rated at 3600mhz 16-19-19-39 (model no: F4-3600C16D-32GVKC). Thaiphoon burner shows it as dual rank Hynix CJR. I haven't tried overclocking it, but it runs stable at xmp with a 5900x and Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming
Hey buildzoid, i bought 2 kits of the viper steel 2x8 4400mhz because i was thinking about upgrade my old r5 1600 with some new stuff (intel or amd it will depend on which one will offer the bast value for a gaming cpu). Now i was wondering if for mainly gaming purposes, going 4x8 to get them working in dual rank is it going to be a waste of money (in which case i would return one of the kit) or will it be a good move to get a little bit more of future proof when i'm going to upgrade my gpu with something like rtx 4000 or rx 7000? Also is it worth to wait for the new ddr5 INTEL or AMD platforms?
Went memory shopping recently. All 3200 cl14 2x16gb went out of stock. Tired of waiting and wanted it to just work. Bought 2x16gb 3600 cl14 for 300. 💪🏽
Might be a dumb question but is the gskill 4000 cl16 kit better than the 4000 cl 17 kit? I'm asking because of the timings that follow cas. 17 18 18 18 sounds "tighter" than 16 19 19 19.
I bought the 4000MHz Ripjaw V kit (offshoot of the Trident showed at 7:00) because I saw it for $200 and have been using old 2800MHz RAM since I switched to Ryzen in January 2020 that is rated for CL15, but running at CL19 because ASUS refuses to support it so it fails POST at its rated, or any custom, timing.. even manually inputting CL20 at 1666MHz. 8GB DR Hynix M-die sticks. This 4000 kit is single rank and some weird Hynix chip that wasn't really labeled in Typhoon Burner and DRAM calculator wouldn't even load the XMP dump. Listed as "H5ANAG8N[M/A]JR-VKC" Have no idea how to get my 3950x to 2000FCLK, so I've been running it at 3600/1800 CL18 (will try tuning 3800/1900 later); latency is 70ns and I haven't seen a single increase in performance in any benchmark or game I've tested. Synthetic memory testing shows everything higher.. but real world performance has been no different so far. So, I randomly stumbled across this video in my feed and I'm hoping it ends up helping, as I refuse to believe jumping so high up in memory frequency does nothing. I really don't want to spend the money upgrading when DDR5 is on the horizon, but if I need to jump to a 64GB DR B-die kit for my 3950 (5950 someday..) to actually gain big, then I'll try to swallow it.
So I just returned G.SKILL DDR4000 16-19-19-39 for DDR3600 14-15-15-36. I keep going back and forth between whether I made the right choice. Per the leaks, RKL FCLK only syncs up to 3733, so I would have had to drop the 4000 kit anyway. Beyond that, the 3600 kit has the best of the 3 B dies where as the 4000 kit had the worst, the 3600 kit has SPPR, SPD revision 1.1, and higher factory J-DEC (which means nothing). Tell me I didn't make a mistake, but be honest if I did. The 3600 kit is rare and sells out quickly where as the 4000 kit restocks often.
So did you end up happy? I'm considering buying 3600cl14/15/15 kit also for 405eur but i kinda wonder how many more fps i can clock out of it than regular 3600c16/16/16 that costs 330eur. Both are in stock. Running 5950x with Unify.
36:32 I have no idea how many times on various forums I've helped people trouble shoot their new builds only to discover they didn't know to check the Motherboard Mfg QVL for RAM before buying. and some of these people have built systems before!! 99% of the time, if it's not on the QVL there is no guarantee it will work at advertised speeds.
I love your videos. I really clicked on your OC testing of ram for taking so long, but, couldn't you remove the sticks and do one stick at a time for testing? I realize that you test when OC'ing wouldn't you still find the faulty stick?
Yes you could IF you were only validating that the ram was physically faulty. Doing your proposed method when wanting to OC both sticks won't accomplish anything sadly.
Do you have any thoughts on using the Motherboard QVL lists to determine what chip something uses? The ASUS ones lists the Chip maker on their QVL, and MSI's is searchable and lists the full chip type, like "Samsung 5WB". I know that's not going to be definitive, because different chips in the same batch, but is it at least a decent guideline for what something might be, especially for the higher performance stuff that could only be one of a couple of chips?
It would be interesting to see a look at whether new BIOS/AGESA in x570 b550 boards are now capable of IF 4000 (maybe newer MB production runs are better). 3800 is nice, but what the heck.
I got a b550 gigabyte board a couple of weeks ago, its a revision and the qvl indicates at least some support for 5000mhz. only on 2 x 8gb on watever sticks they were. I didn't even look because 5000mhz support probably isn't great but there was support for several 4000mhz kits and several higher speeds. I didn't have much luck finding a revised x570 board that wasn't greater than $500
I went for a set of two 16GB white Crucial Ballistix 3200 sticks and was lucky enough to get them as Rev E for my Ryzen 5600x. From what I've gathered during my research the normal ones at least give you a chance of getting Rev E while the RBG Sticks always come as Rev B. Btw, with Crucial Billistix you can figure out if you got Dual Rank or Single Rank on the package. If the part number ends with M16FE, you get Rev E, if it ends with M8FB you get Rev B. This way you could theoretically send them back unopened until you get a Rev E kit. You can also figure it out with CPU-Z after the fact.
@@MihaLychBY Good to know. That could mean that my assumption was entirely wrong or that it only counts for RGB kits with 3200 and up. Anyway, nice overclocks!
@@CaptainShiny5000 3000 and 3200 kits with RGB or withot have the same Rev.E chips. The only 1 differ is that the RGB kits have a temp. sensors. But 3600 kits is a lottery: sometimes Rev.E, sometimes Rev.B
@@MihaLychBY So, 3000 and 3200 kits are guaranteed Rev E? And if so, do you have a source for that or is that an assumption based on word of mouth? Not trying to be condescending but I'd really like to know if there's any reliable information out there. My information was reddit and a few forums mashed together.
Buildzoid, if it's not out of your remit, would you have any guideline on which is the safer way to go about doubling the capacity down the line without buying a new kit of double capacity? It doesn't concern overclocking so it's probably not very interesting for you but let's suppose that I got my 2x 8GB kit running according to its XMP profile. My system is an ordinary dual channel (let's say 3700X on B550) and I fitted one 1-rank module per channel. After some time, happy with the performance, I find myself needing 32GB so I try to buy another pair of 1-rank modules with the same (or better?) specs on paper. I may not be able to find the same manufacturer and model. I don't want to try my luck, I'm not temped by overclocking, I just want my 3600 16-18-18-38 1.35V to happily work alongside a new kit with the same (or better) specs. What is most likely to go wrong? And would it be more sensible to place the two modules from the same kit on the same channel?
I got relatively lucky with my 4 x 8gb corsair sticks I didn't buy them at the same time so really lucky. 2 sticks are Samsung B die (newer stuff) and 2 sticks are Hynix (something). The hynix stuff is rated for 3000 and the Samsung as 3200 both CL16. I can't get it to run 3200 cl16 but it runs fine at 3000 CL16 so that's ok. Solo the hynix will do 3600 CL18 or 3200CL16 but I wanted the more ram and duel rank so will sacrifice a bit of raw speed for that.
Thinking about getting the 5900/5950X + ASUS x570 Dark Hero + either the Corsair CMK32GX4M2Z4000C18 (2x16GB 18-22-22-42 1.35v Micron B) or Corsair CMK32GX4M4K4000C19(Ver4.31) (4x8GB 19-23-23-45 1.35v Samsung something), leaning towards the 2x16 kit. These are the only DR 4GHz kits on the ASUS QVL. Would this be a Buidzoid approved decision?
I know this is a bit specific but I am putting together a system based around the ROG Crosshair VIII Impact board and 5900X. Yeah it will be used for gaming but it will also moonlight for dev work (inc VM's) so I need 32GB ram (64GB would be nice but I believe that would be too expensive). I want to be able to push this thing to the absolute limit I can. What would be your recommendations for a 2x16 or 2x32 kit for a build like this?
I don't oc memory at the moment but I did need 64gb for adobe lightroom. I bought 2 kits of G.Skill F4-3200C16-16GVK. All the chips are samsung and cpu-z says dual rank on all of them. all 16-18-18-38 and my xmp profile works with all 4 installed. Guess I got kinda lucky
Hum... I thought 16GB ram sticka usually where dual rank? So I just order two 16GB Crucial Ballistix 3000Mhz CL15 sticks of amazon. They where just 52 euro each. So not sold in pair either. Is it a big risk I will get two separate manufacturers? And also the risk of getting single rank sticks?
does crucial guarantee to use MICRON chips? Guess that I should consider me lucky for having a 2x32 3600mhz Crucial, never knew I could tighten up timings good
In regard to Crucial Ballistix kits, you can check if a kit you just bought is dual rank or not before opening it. There is an extension code right next to the part number. Only the part number is advertised, but you can see the extension code on the memory sticks through the packaging without opening it.
Examples: BL2K16G36C16U4B. *M8FB1* vs BL2K16G36C16U4B. *M16FE1*
That ''8'' and ''16'' is the number of memory chips per stick. (16 = dual rank).
''B'' means Micron rev B
''E'' means Micron rev E
Cool! Thanks for the info.
do you know if corsair has a feature like this?
Knowing what rank each memory kit is would be useful for us with high end ITX builds. They have only two ram slots so we cannot just buy two kits and get dual rank speeds that way.
indeed, Corsair with their "we'd put Poptarts on Sticks if it would work" ratings.
No this is not filler!!!
This is what we wanted!
Thank you!
I have 2 kits of 4500 gskill.. purchased at the same time. With consecutive serial numbers.. and one kit is a1 PCB and the other is A2 PCB. So there are 100% no guarantees just buying two of the same kit will all be the same.
What is A1 or A2 PCB?
I have 2x 8Gb 4266c19 and 2x 8Gb 4133c17, both sets Trident Z RGB. How would be best to run them?
Corsair’s recent 16GB sticks have a lot of Rev B. Ver3.40 and 3.44. They seem to do very high frequencies.
In general it seems very hard to find those, also, Corsair is always a level below G.Skill with latencies.
i ordered dominator platinum from amazon eu and instead of getting 3.31v i got 5.32v witch ones the better chip?
@Azzamits sk hynix cjr still great up there with same Samsung just as good just a about the same little behide www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/a4z89t/hynix_cjr_looks_great_very_close_to_bdie_presets/ still a bit better than the 3.31v one i got and sent back happy
@Azzam you cleary didnt look it up very much or at the reddit post they tight up nicely from what ive read/seen iam yet to try it my self ill let you know but from what ive seen its on par just behide which is great
@@TonciJukic always?
Reminds me, one of you past vids about the MSI z490 unify inspired me to buy an eBay pair of 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3200c16 with dual rank samsung B die at the beginning of the year. I haven't tried pushing it to high voltages, but they happily run at 4133c17 at around 1.4v (with low SA and IO voltages). Couldn't be happier for under a hundred dollars for 32gb of dual rank at that everyday speed, and wouldn't have thought of it without this channel.
It's 6am
I need to sleep
I see a buildzoid video
It's 50+ minutes
I clicked lol
HIs videos does acts like a lullaby too in case you need that
Damn. Same thing here. Three months later. It's 6:04 am.
Can't wait till Buildzoid is going to explore the upcoming DDR5 world.
Corsair: Bin different
normie understanding of video, 1) if you want 100% dual rank you'll have to go with 4x8GB or 2x32GB gigs. 2) Higher mhz means higher bin quality which translate to better overclock 3) don't buy 2400mhz ram, it's trash 3) secondary timings just as important as cas if not more. 4) buy crucial for high compatibility 5) buy g.skill if you are looking for fancy b-die
Lovely, thank you!
Which g skill ram I stupid enough not to buy?
I want to get really low cas latency overclock
3). Had to for someone, we did an super el cheapo build so 2400 15-15-15-35 at 1.2V is the best bin I could find for the rock bottom prices. We'll see if and how it overclocks.
5). My personal build has that fancy b-die, thank you.
Thanks a lot pro , does 3200 mhz part of the high frequency? I’m thinking to buy 4x8gb crucial basilisk for better compatibility but unfortunately they don’t provide 4 rams kit only 2 per kit ?
Normies have to come into the picture :D I love it when he mentions us ATLEAST :D
can we get a brutal zoid special putting liquid metal on a ddr4 kit and have it boot?
Nice idea in paper, but as the ram is not horizontal, the LM may well run.. Also a Cpu cooler clamps at muuuch higher pressure Vs ram heatsinks, so more reason that it might leak.
I vote for a "RAMbling about high speed RAM reviews" video!
RAMbling!
@@EriIaz Fixed it!
Went with 4x8 3600 c14. running at 3800 c14 14 14 28 52 trfc 262 . I do agree with you, 32gb of ram took me 18 hours to just validate that my overclock is stable " 2000% memtest on each thread ", BTW thanks for the video !
EDIT: XMP wouldnt be stable
middle mouse click is still an unexplored territory for buildzoid
My life changed after finding out about it
Oldschool mice did not have a 3rd button / wheel so there is possibility bz is using an old mouse. He might scroll with pg up/ down buttons on keyboard or even worse using arrows *eugh* /jk
nah I just think scroll click is awful and I unbind it in every game I play
@El Cactuar Nah, i'm only 40yrs and i agree with him. We didn't even have scroll wheels to click at the time of windows 3.11 so why would we need to click it now? Actually i much more prefered the actual mouse middle button of the 90s for gaming instead of the useless scroll wheel thats only good for browsing web, which you could do just as well with arrow keys. Bring back mice with three on top buttons! Yeah! No? Okay, then.
FYI, the G.Skill 2x32GB 4000MHz TridentZ RGB kit I bought was Hynix 16Gb MJR (F4-4000C18D-64GTZR resp. F4-4000C18-32GTZR).
same in my case 2 seperate kits
I fell asleep as Buildzoid's voice is ASMR.
Also, 4x 16GB B-die just to torture my 5900x's memory controller.
Yeah, it's quite difficult to overclock 4x16 B-dies. ☹️
@@sp00n Yeah. I got mine to 3600 CL14-15-14-28 @ 1.46V. But if I use only 2 sticks, I easily reach 3866 CL16 @ 1.44V (didn't bother to optimise sub-timings as it was just a quick test)
@@aaron_333 I was able to achieve 3600 MHz/14-14-14-26-7-7-28-320-32767-T1*/1.45 V using 4X16 GiB G.Skill Ripjaw V kit and it passed Firestrike and Time Spy without any ill effects. My VCCSA/VCCIO/uncore voltage was set to 1.25 V for both tests.
*7: tRRD_S/tRRD_L; 28: tFAW; 320: tRFC; tREFI: 32767; force memory retraining enabled; all other timings set to auto.
@@NUCLEARARMAMENT Yea I'm able to get my 4000Mhz C17 sticks to 3600Mhz CL 14-14-14-14-28 at 1.435v at T1 and all that. I could go even faster but I think my 5950x's memory controller is already crying in agony along with my wallet and it runs into stability issues with memory tests. Honestly considering it's well below the 8ns speed with over 99.9999% of the ram tested for 0 errors I'm happy.
Edit: real world speeds in the low 50s iirc in ns. I think 52 but it's beena hot minute lol.
A video on the ddr5 standards would be appreciated. Thanks for this video.
I have the G Skill 3600 Cl 16-16-16-36 kit, and it is dual rank and will do Cl 14-14-14-30 and 288 tRFC at 1.47v. Great kit, gets me to 53ns latency on my X570i Strix. Highly recommend for Ryzen
Thank you. I have the same motherboard and am about to buy this ram
Is there any reason to buy 3600cl14/15/15 kit instead? Does it overclock better?
Im not overly knowledgeable on ram timings and such but using my motherboards manufactor support sheet I looked through possible 2x16GB kits that had B die, grabbed a corsair pair straight from their website, the LPX. I dont know where I heard this but I got told somewhere, that specifically the 2x16GB 3200mhz CL16 lpx kits from corsairs website only (weird ik) are always B die only specifically those sticks, I can say the ones that are in my PC using thaiphoon burner read as B die that could just be luck though and the ones in my Mrs PC is also B die again that could just be pure luck they were purchased at least 1 year apart but both off of corsairs website rather than amazon or such...
I got 2 x 16GB GSkill Royal 3600 16-16-16, am pre happy! On Apex 12.
You are correct that ICs could be different in the same stick SKU even in DDR2 days. I had one stick in a 2x2GB G.Skill kit that was replaced under warranty with a stick made with different ICs.
I went nuts trying to find a 2 x 16GB dual rank set so I went for 2 sets 2 x 8GB crucial balastix 3200 CL 16, running them now on 3800 CL16
Did you find any eventual problems or indicators or problems while overclocking the 4 sticks? That's my main concern currently, as I'm missing only the memory sticks to finish my build
G.Skill 2x16GB F4-3600C16D-32GVKC is dual rank Hynix CJR.
HI! Thanks for the vid! BTW, probably "b die finder" will help in future!
Interestingly PC part picker doesnt list my RAM kit:
2x16GB GSkill B-die Ripjaws 4000 17-18-18-38 - F4-4000C17-16GVKB
Managed to snatch a set before christmas for 250€
Buildzoid actually missed the kit at 43:38, going for 279 atm
Nanya(Patriot Viper 3200 cl16) and Sk Hynix(Corsair Vengeance 3200 cl16) are what's reported in cpuz . Used Ryzen Dram calculator and my system works at 3266 4x8GB cl16. It wouldn't even post before . To me , that seems like black magic and i am happy. Buildzoid will help you identify the best ram based on speed/timing etc.
I bought 2x16gb Crucial ballistix black and they were single ranked. Returned them and bought 2x16gb G.Skill Ripjaws V and they are dual ranked so those were the ones I settled on. They are Hynix C-die.
B-die finder shows G.Skill trident Z F4-3000C14D-32GTZR as guaranteed B-Die ant its only 200euro
I agree i was searching for that kind of comment, BZ why do you ignore 3000Mhz ? Btw i just by one of these kit last week...
4 sticks of B-die here, not cheap but works like a charm
I love how he can go on for an hour on RAM! 😂
It is called RAMbling!
That's not the only thing he can do for an hour straight!
@@ValentineC137 good one!
Prices have gone up quite a bit. I picked up the FlareX 32 GB 3200c14 kit last year for around $330 CAD and it eventually dropped below $300.
CMK64GX4M2Z4000C18 is Micron Rev B. Bought a pair before they disapeared of the face of the earth.
3733 RAM/1866 IF 16-18-18-36-1T tRFC 582 (5600x)
Tuned system latency 60-62ns.
Have you had a go at trying to push the infinity fabric or using PBO?
Your opinions on my opinion... as that currently RAM keeps the price so well right now, just buy the full sets, and sell your old odd set, if upgrading from 1 to 2 or 2 to 4 etc sticks.
PS, Kingston RAM is noted on their website as to if it's 64 or 128 bit (single or dual rank).
We're back to suggestions 😂
RAM is more complicated than I knew.
Ram is like a box of chocolates.
Bro your suggestions are mixed up like the 2400 Samsung B die.
Cool educational video about DRAM. I agree that memory manufacturers should tell us what type of die the RAM is. I would like to know if it's Micron-E, Samsung B-Die, and etc. Also, last year, I took your advice and bought a 2x8 Viper Steel 4400 MHz kit for $135 for a future build.
the 3600cl16\3200cl14 trident bdies are what is mostly in stock. the 4000cl16 is a unicorn and the subtimings are not as tight. what about a few minutes about those?
As a RAM noob, it is INFURIATING trying to track down specs and actual chips on the sticks when buying. You go to the manufacturer sites and get the most vague specs imaginable. Is there a good reason or is it just business practice that stays vague to bait and switch constantly?
The latter. It's a super cut throat market. Outside of very high end kits, they make tiny profit margins, and rely on volume. If they can increase their margins by 0.1%, it's worth changing the chips that day. Before heatspreaders took off, they'd burn off the top of the packages, and put their own branding on the chips, to hide what you got.
before watching: 3200c14 g.skill is still king? :P
3600 CL14 is the sweet spot for Ryzen but that's not bothering me since I'm not gonna buy the Royal Elite. I'll stick with my 3200 CL14 Royals.
@@TokenaiNamae Would have went with 3600 cl14 but had 8 slots to fill, it doubled cost over 3200 cl14. Went with 3200 cl14 Royals. thinking I can get at least 3600 OC or better. Thanks for your thought.
Trident z neo, 3600 c16 19 19 39, djr, running at 3800 16 19 16 36, 1.36v with tightened timings lime tfaw and trcd, 1cmd, loving it. Wanted b die, but hey? Lol. Thanks bz
Yo man, that is exactly the kit I'm looking at since it's the only one affordable, do you think getting 3800 is doable on all of them? Since my goal is exactly what you're running.
@@obviouslee1949 depends on your motberboard.
I recently viewed not so impressive reviews of RGB SSD and major heat related issues, won't mention product. Not here to throw anything under the bus. This led me to disadvantages of RGB memory cards and heat related issues, could be minimal but I think it its a worthwhile to look into. @BZ, know you don't care for suggested request, but there it is.
A couple of days ago i came across a 2x16gb trident z rgb 3200 MHz cl14 kit for 220 Euro (~280$) and i thought, that must be b-die, lets get into RAM OC
I have a Gskill 4x32 3600 18-22-22-42 kit and they are indeed Hynix ICs
For the GSKILL TridentZ kits, i know that if the code name ends with C (e.g. F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC) then the chips are SK Hynix. If there is no C I think it means Samsung but I'm not sure if it's always the case.
Taking the tridentz neo 32G 2600 C15, there's two variants: the F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC, and the F4-3600C16D-32GTZN. The second one should be Samsung B-die.
What about F4-3600C16D-16GTZR
?
Here is hoping that you are correct as I have a set of F4-3600C16D-32GTZN (CL-16-16-16-36) waiting for a CPU to arrive - in April...
@@plu2 I used to have the royal version of that kit before upgrading. Yes they are b dies and I have overclocked that set to 3800Mhz CL16 or so at 1.45v. not insanely bumpy in performance but no slouch too. I could do 3800Mhz with CL14 but looser timings were required even at 1.5v.
You can open links in a new tab by pressing down on the middle mouse button. You can also close that tab with the middle mouse button. It drives me nuts when you right click and open in new tab. :)
I got the trident z neo 3600 2x16 16-16-16 kit for 2799 SEK (about 280e). Since it was for a 5900x i didnt want to spend more for the 4000-kits.
Please could you give your opinion on, and maybe an overclocking video for ECC Udimms on Ryzen?
I would also love thoughts on ECC UDIMMS and Ryzen.
The G.Skill stuff (4k, 18-22) is Hynix D-Die single rank
Thanks mate, I always though 16GB sticks were always dual rank.....saved me some heartache
My trident z 3600C17-16GTZR shows as hynix CJR on typhoon burner so id guess the 32GTZR is also CJR as the timings are the same
I got really lucky, with some G.SKILL Sniper X F4 3200 cl16 2x16, according to typhoon burner it is Samsung B-die. I still have to tickle them a bit to let them run faster.
dont feel depresed if its samsung c die
Has anyone tried taking higher clocked kits, e.g., a DDR4 4000 or 4266, but downclocking it to 3600 or 3800 speeds and then seeing how much the timings can be tightened up if paired with a small voltage bump?
We all Know the best Ram Kits for either Amd or intel butt i gambled back in February 2020 & went with 32gb CL16 Xpg Z1 Ram ( Nothing Special ) butt Run good for $130.- Ny bucks decent Price at that time with a R7-3700x running at 4.5ghz @ 1.375v with 240r Aio Liquid Cooler keeping temps under 73c ..... i’m new to OverClocking butt i’m Cool with my Pc’s Performance 🍷
THERE IS TRIPLE CHANNEL PLATFORMS ,, IT WAS IN THE OLDER EXTREME CPU DAYS. I HAD ONE..
G.Skill royal / neo / RGB are pretty much all the same sticks with different shells. Even the LED diffuser from royals work on the other ones. 3600 32GB kit is dual rank H5AN8G8NCJR 16-19-19-36
I got the Trident Z Royal 3600 CL14-15-15-35 kit and it runs nice. I wish he would've commented on that one
I also have the same one, Royal Gold. It was the last one and is very rare. Still have to test it though, currently I'd like to finish with OC capabilities of the 4 single rank kits I also have.
I think they go in this order:
3600 14-15-15 1.45V = 3800 14-16-16 1.5V = 4266 17-18-18 1.5V > 4000 16-19-19 1.4V > 4000 17-18-18 1.4V > 4000 19-19-19 1.35V
Some people say it is ok to mix memory but I like to keep it all as much the same as possible. I never had a memory error because of that. It probably helped that when I bought my 32 GB of DDR3, I got it as all at once from the same seller as if it was a kit. That was of course back before the market became the shitstorm of scalping that it is now.
I've got a dual rank Ballistix 3600 2x16 Rev E kit that does 4000 with stock XMP timings and voltage.
I wonder why no manufacturer wants to specify which memory chips they use? Seems like there would be a lot of demand for it.
most people don't know don't care and can barely understand what the difference between 3200CL16 and 3600CL18 is.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking True, maybe I overstated my case but my impression is that there's still a fairly significant number of people that do care enough that they've heard of Samsung B-Die for example and having that label on a memory kit would be meaningful to them.
there is no gskill 4000 c17 in my area, so i went for 3600 c16 16 instead, hopefully also pretty good
4x Trident Z 3600 CL15 here running at 14-14-14-28-42. Gotta love these B-dies.
EDIT: Rock stable at just 1.42 V.
Crucial was actually wiling to help me when Amazon sold me 2 2x16 kits of RAM and one kit was single rank and one was dual rank.I really didn't feel like running on 16GB of backup RAM I had laying around while I waited for them to send me a new kit to match the dual rank kit. Now I'm just running 3 ranks on each channel. The kits were supposed to be the same SKU (BL16G36C16U4RL.M16FE), but one kit was BL16G36C16U4RL.M8FB1, which is single rank. Still pretty good performance though on Z590.
Just picked up two sets of these on Newegg, since it's crucial it should be the same memory modules and hopefully it'll play well together at it's rated speeds in dual rank D:
Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G36C16U4W (WHITE)
I have not picked the 4000c17-GTZR but c19-16GTRS. Lists as Dual Ranks in GPU-z and is happy to run at 1.212V instead of XMPs 1.35. So 4000c19d-32GTRS kit which, to my surprise is listed for over 600bucks in this video. And well its a Samsung. The S stands for silver. Guess the R for royal and the T for trident, who have thought.
LOVE memory speed!3600 14-15-15 1.45V = 3800 14-16-16 1.5V = 4266 17-18-18 1.5V > 4000 16-19-19 1.4V > 4000 17-18-18 1.4V > 4000 19-19-19 1.35V
Even with an explanation its super hard to choose I want 4x8gb (2x2x8gb only saves about $10 here, so I'll take the 4x8 safety). I keep flipping between $250 for 3600 cl18-22--22-34, $369 for 3600 cl16-16-16-36 or $578 for cl14-14-14-36. I hate hover spending, but I also don't want to shoot myself in the foot and with 11th gen I don't want to have to worry about 2nd great by going over 3600. I'll probably go the CL14 kit incase I get stuck with my first ram overlock. then I can fall back to the XMP.
I have a 2x16gb kit of Ripjaws V rated at 3600mhz 16-19-19-39 (model no: F4-3600C16D-32GVKC). Thaiphoon burner shows it as dual rank Hynix CJR. I haven't tried overclocking it, but it runs stable at xmp with a 5900x and Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming
Hey buildzoid, i bought 2 kits of the viper steel 2x8 4400mhz because i was thinking about upgrade my old r5 1600 with some new stuff (intel or amd it will depend on which one will offer the bast value for a gaming cpu). Now i was wondering if for mainly gaming purposes, going 4x8 to get them working in dual rank is it going to be a waste of money (in which case i would return one of the kit) or will it be a good move to get a little bit more of future proof when i'm going to upgrade my gpu with something like rtx 4000 or rx 7000?
Also is it worth to wait for the new ddr5 INTEL or AMD platforms?
For gaming you are better off going to a newer cpu +mobo. 5600x is great , better ram support etc etc
Went memory shopping recently. All 3200 cl14 2x16gb went out of stock. Tired of waiting and wanted it to just work. Bought 2x16gb 3600 cl14 for 300. 💪🏽
The price premium for cl14 is crazy... Paid the same for 64gb 3600 cl18.
Might be a dumb question but is the gskill 4000 cl16 kit better than the 4000 cl 17 kit? I'm asking because of the timings that follow cas. 17 18 18 18 sounds "tighter" than 16 19 19 19.
I bought the 4000MHz Ripjaw V kit (offshoot of the Trident showed at 7:00) because I saw it for $200 and have been using old 2800MHz RAM since I switched to Ryzen in January 2020 that is rated for CL15, but running at CL19 because ASUS refuses to support it so it fails POST at its rated, or any custom, timing.. even manually inputting CL20 at 1666MHz. 8GB DR Hynix M-die sticks.
This 4000 kit is single rank and some weird Hynix chip that wasn't really labeled in Typhoon Burner and DRAM calculator wouldn't even load the XMP dump. Listed as "H5ANAG8N[M/A]JR-VKC"
Have no idea how to get my 3950x to 2000FCLK, so I've been running it at 3600/1800 CL18 (will try tuning 3800/1900 later); latency is 70ns and I haven't seen a single increase in performance in any benchmark or game I've tested. Synthetic memory testing shows everything higher.. but real world performance has been no different so far.
So, I randomly stumbled across this video in my feed and I'm hoping it ends up helping, as I refuse to believe jumping so high up in memory frequency does nothing. I really don't want to spend the money upgrading when DDR5 is on the horizon, but if I need to jump to a 64GB DR B-die kit for my 3950 (5950 someday..) to actually gain big, then I'll try to swallow it.
So I just returned G.SKILL DDR4000 16-19-19-39 for DDR3600 14-15-15-36. I keep going back and forth between whether I made the right choice. Per the leaks, RKL FCLK only syncs up to 3733, so I would have had to drop the 4000 kit anyway. Beyond that, the 3600 kit has the best of the 3 B dies where as the 4000 kit had the worst, the 3600 kit has SPPR, SPD revision 1.1, and higher factory J-DEC (which means nothing).
Tell me I didn't make a mistake, but be honest if I did. The 3600 kit is rare and sells out quickly where as the 4000 kit restocks often.
So did you end up happy? I'm considering buying 3600cl14/15/15 kit also for 405eur but i kinda wonder how many more fps i can clock out of it than regular 3600c16/16/16 that costs 330eur. Both are in stock. Running 5950x with Unify.
@@jaybee0507 Actually, yes... because the Gear 1 limit of RKL is usually 3733... 3866 if you're really lucky.
This man is so precious to me
I have a 2x8GB + 2x16GB both are 3200mhz | CL16 18 18 38. It works but what are the downside?
36:32 I have no idea how many times on various forums I've helped people trouble shoot their new builds only to discover they didn't know to check the Motherboard Mfg QVL for RAM before buying. and some of these people have built systems before!! 99% of the time, if it's not on the QVL there is no guarantee it will work at advertised speeds.
where is the guy that puts timestamps😫
I love your videos. I really clicked on your OC testing of ram for taking so long, but, couldn't you remove the sticks and do one stick at a time for testing? I realize that you test when OC'ing wouldn't you still find the faulty stick?
Yes you could IF you were only validating that the ram was physically faulty. Doing your proposed method when wanting to OC both sticks won't accomplish anything sadly.
Ramble about OLOy Blade RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) cl14 3600 with 14-14-14-34 1.40 volts pls
Buildzoid: 2400 is garbage
Me with my 2400 bought in 2015: ;_;
Do you have any thoughts on using the Motherboard QVL lists to determine what chip something uses? The ASUS ones lists the Chip maker on their QVL, and MSI's is searchable and lists the full chip type, like "Samsung 5WB". I know that's not going to be definitive, because different chips in the same batch, but is it at least a decent guideline for what something might be, especially for the higher performance stuff that could only be one of a couple of chips?
Do a 32gb per stick please, for example: 32gb x 2 or x 4 sticks etc... Love your videos!
It would be interesting to see a look at whether new BIOS/AGESA in x570 b550 boards are now capable of IF 4000 (maybe newer MB production runs are better). 3800 is nice, but what the heck.
I got a b550 gigabyte board a couple of weeks ago, its a revision and the qvl indicates at least some support for 5000mhz. only on 2 x 8gb on watever sticks they were. I didn't even look because 5000mhz support probably isn't great but there was support for several 4000mhz kits and several higher speeds. I didn't have much luck finding a revised x570 board that wasn't greater than $500
I have 2x8gb of hynix and 2x8gb samsung. never crashes, 100% stable. both trident Z cl16 3200 kits.
I went for a set of two 16GB white Crucial Ballistix 3200 sticks and was lucky enough to get them as Rev E for my Ryzen 5600x. From what I've gathered during my research the normal ones at least give you a chance of getting Rev E while the RBG Sticks always come as Rev B. Btw, with Crucial Billistix you can figure out if you got Dual Rank or Single Rank on the package. If the part number ends with M16FE, you get Rev E, if it ends with M8FB you get Rev B. This way you could theoretically send them back unopened until you get a Rev E kit. You can also figure it out with CPU-Z after the fact.
i got Crucial U4 3000 cl15 2x16 with RGB and its Rev.E. OC to 4166 16-21-16-16-40-60 @1.43v with my ryzen 4650g
@@MihaLychBY Good to know. That could mean that my assumption was entirely wrong or that it only counts for RGB kits with 3200 and up. Anyway, nice overclocks!
@@CaptainShiny5000 3000 and 3200 kits with RGB or withot have the same Rev.E chips. The only 1 differ is that the RGB kits have a temp. sensors.
But 3600 kits is a lottery: sometimes Rev.E, sometimes Rev.B
@@MihaLychBY So, 3000 and 3200 kits are guaranteed Rev E? And if so, do you have a source for that or is that an assumption based on word of mouth? Not trying to be condescending but I'd really like to know if there's any reliable information out there. My information was reddit and a few forums mashed together.
@@MihaLychBY Actually, no - just rewatched the first few minutes and Buildzoid just mentioned that the 3200 come in both varieties. Welp, that's that.
Buildzoid,
if it's not out of your remit, would you have any guideline on which is the safer way to go about doubling the capacity down the line without buying a new kit of double capacity?
It doesn't concern overclocking so it's probably not very interesting for you but let's suppose that I got my 2x 8GB kit running according to its XMP profile. My system is an ordinary dual channel (let's say 3700X on B550) and I fitted one 1-rank module per channel.
After some time, happy with the performance, I find myself needing 32GB so I try to buy another pair of 1-rank modules with the same (or better?) specs on paper. I may not be able to find the same manufacturer and model.
I don't want to try my luck, I'm not temped by overclocking, I just want my 3600 16-18-18-38 1.35V to happily work alongside a new kit with the same (or better) specs. What is most likely to go wrong? And would it be more sensible to place the two modules from the same kit on the same channel?
I got relatively lucky with my 4 x 8gb corsair sticks I didn't buy them at the same time so really lucky. 2 sticks are Samsung B die (newer stuff) and 2 sticks are Hynix (something). The hynix stuff is rated for 3000 and the Samsung as 3200 both CL16. I can't get it to run 3200 cl16 but it runs fine at 3000 CL16 so that's ok. Solo the hynix will do 3600 CL18 or 3200CL16 but I wanted the more ram and duel rank so will sacrifice a bit of raw speed for that.
Thinking about getting the 5900/5950X + ASUS x570 Dark Hero + either the Corsair CMK32GX4M2Z4000C18 (2x16GB 18-22-22-42 1.35v Micron B) or Corsair CMK32GX4M4K4000C19(Ver4.31) (4x8GB 19-23-23-45 1.35v Samsung something), leaning towards the 2x16 kit. These are the only DR 4GHz kits on the ASUS QVL.
Would this be a Buidzoid approved decision?
I got 2 system with 4 ranks:
2x16GB HyperX Predator 3600MHz CL17-19-19-39 --> OCed to 3800MHz CL18-19-19-39 @1.35v (Gear Down Mode)
4x8GB HyperX Fury 2666MHz & G.SKILL SniperX 3200MHz CL16-18-18 -> OCed to 2666MHz CL13-15-15-35 @1.35v (B460)
I know this is a bit specific but I am putting together a system based around the ROG Crosshair VIII Impact board and 5900X. Yeah it will be used for gaming but it will also moonlight for dev work (inc VM's) so I need 32GB ram (64GB would be nice but I believe that would be too expensive). I want to be able to push this thing to the absolute limit I can. What would be your recommendations for a 2x16 or 2x32 kit for a build like this?
that gskill is sk hynix, and was single rank even though gskill actually told me it was dual rank
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I don't oc memory at the moment but I did need 64gb for adobe lightroom. I bought 2 kits of G.Skill F4-3200C16-16GVK. All the chips are samsung and cpu-z says dual rank on all of them. all 16-18-18-38 and my xmp profile works with all 4 installed. Guess I got kinda lucky
Hum... I thought 16GB ram sticka usually where dual rank? So I just order two 16GB Crucial Ballistix 3000Mhz CL15 sticks of amazon. They where just 52 euro each. So not sold in pair either. Is it a big risk I will get two separate manufacturers? And also the risk of getting single rank sticks?
So dual rank 2 stiks, 3600 cl16 needs to be a 64gb kit? Does this still hold up in Dec 2022?
does crucial guarantee to use MICRON chips?
Guess that I should consider me lucky for having a 2x32 3600mhz Crucial, never knew I could tighten up timings good
I have 2x 8Gb 4266c19 and 2x 8Gb 4133c17, both sets Trident Z RGB. How would be best to run them?