HEATED Exchange: Trans Women in Women's Sports
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- In early May, my team explored the following claim with students: "Trans women should be able to compete in women’s sports.” After about 25 minutes of discussion, one student asked, “What’s the goal of this?”
The idea of examining beliefs seemed utterly foreign to her. Universities have a responsibility to provide students with tools to think through claims and exchange in fruitful inquiry. They are failing.
Although students were aware we were filming this conversation, we blurred some of their faces in the video for their privacy and we're not releasing the name of the university.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
2:00 Exercise begins
2:20 Initial arguments (Agree)
5:12 Initial arguments (Disagree)
6:45 Discussion
19:56 New students join conversation
25:50 "What's the goal of this?"
30:00 Closing Thoughts
38:40 Wrap Up/End
#transwomen #transwomeninfemalesports #socialjustice #peterboghossian
It's disgusting how they turn rude and borderline abusive to him because they can't defend their position.
You don't understand, being rude and abusive is the crux of their whole argument. Beating people into social submission is the only way ideas this bad can flourish.
@@BuceGar Indeed, keep it real!
LoL ...wow my answer was removed 🤣
They have no real argument this is like basic life skill lol
@@HueManConsciousness I'm interested I Your answer I will listen on a 50/50 plain field
If "transphobic" means I don't believe a biological male can be a literal woman, then yes, I am proudly transphobic.
👏👏👏
Words don't have meaning, whatever their delusions say at the moment the world must accept. I have this odd feeling this us the precipice of the fall of all civilizations.
What do you mean by real woman?
@@FatherDingo Not a man
@@Luixxxd1 Ohhh... Okay, so if you are born a man and choses to live life as a woman, you magically won't be one? Makes sense.
They got mad at him for what they think he believes, but he didn't say what he believes. He just asked them to clarify what they believe and they got real pissed.
Yeah, this lame excuses of human beings are just activist and they wanted to force his agenda by shove it and then want you to keep your mouth shut and agree with them...
Right, they get mad because they know they're trying to condone a bunch of falsehoods
Girl Blue knows everything, and everybody else must play by her rules. I think....(?)
Question: How many males bothered to argue w/ the discussion leader?
Glad I earned my 8 years of college degrees years ago. Really.
Damn, you did them the BIGGEST favor by bluring out their faces 🤌🏽 Blue sweater is CRAZYYYYY
Yeah, you'd think they would be proud to show their face with as boldly as they speak
I disagree & here's my side of the comment it's because if I ever have to deal with her in the future (or someone else..) then I'd like to have the right to see who I'm dealing & how I want to keep them in a Box of ppl who to avoid & have little to do with.
“Point blank period”
She just getting mad because he is making her look stupid and she knows it, but won't give up her liberal stance😅
😂 for real tho. She came in swinging for no reason
Someone saying "no amount of evidence can change my mind", then calling someone else a bigot is one of the most ironic things a person can say.
Lol
The other clip I wanted to catch was when she says, ‘look at me, I demand respect…’ (paraphrasing) but then displays no respect for others!
Yep these people are insane.
Those two women on the left had the largest chips on their shoulder. Both very disrespectful, body language from the get-go indicated a sense of superiority, both were very dismissive of anything that didn’t fit into their narrative.
The middle one acted like these new woke terms were written in stone, well defined and known by all. When the one of the left called Boghossian a “bigoted piece of shit” and “biblically aged”, while saying nothing provocative enough to warrant it, I lost patience with their arguments.
All of these further-left types believe they are the smartest in any room, the ones with all the answers. I find that their arguments fail at the slightest rebuttal. Something should be done to prevent ideologies like this from spreading, nothing too radical, but enough to wake the ‘woke’ up, bring them back to reality.
Also one of the most american thing a person can say
People who advocate for this trans movement are some of the most close minded people I’ve seen ever seen.
Of course they are! They have a whole religion to defend!
even more disturbing is the level of their ignorance when they talk about meeting criteria to enter women's sports. wholely ignorant of the biological differences and advantages men have. they always quote things like testosterone and don't understand that is but one of dozens of advantages.
Ironic
Our nations beginning of cultural downfall
Sounds like a bigot??
They always hit you with the "what's the goal of this" when they are losing the debate 😂
Then turns the conversation into a screaming match about what ally means 😭
Or my personal favorite, "why do you care so much?".
We need better debaters on both sides
I love how as soon as people disagree with their agenda they bring out “you’re transfobic”
Which is an honor! To be called ‘transphobic’ and or ‘homophobic’ should be met with thunderous applause for such an honor. For one it means your interlocutor has lost the argument and has had to resulted name calling. For another to be identified as a ‘transphobic’ or ‘homophobic’ indicates that you might have high enough to defend children against perverts that insist on child abuse.
The trans community is extremely toxic! I lived as a transwoman. Theu are extremely arrogant angry narcissistic and self centered people. I distanced myself from this toxic group of people.
1. Play the victim
2. Accuse others of what you do
3. Run away at facts and stats
And maybe
4. Be rude while running away
Allowing transwomen to compete defeats the ENTIRE PURPOSE of women's sports.
If progressives cannot acknowledge that a male puberty confers irreversible athletic benefits, they probably can't be reasoned with and we'll likely never share any common ground. Likewise, if conservatives cannot agree there's no reason to stop trans women who've never been through a male puberty from competing in female sports, they probably can't be reasoned with and we'll likely never share any common ground.
Which is the whole point. Listen to that ex-KGB operative Yuri Bezmenov. The marxist agenda is to DEMORALIZE a society by rotting it from the inside, when you can't defeat it externally via military or economic means. Trans in women's sports isn't about 'fairness' or 'inclusion'. It's about destroying the institution of women's sports, while sane people are being gas-lit into thinking that they are hateful bigots if they don't want to see it destroyed. That demoralizes, when we are forced into an "up is down" insanity as our 'new normal'.
THEY. DON'T. CARE.
I have to say that was a good point on the genetic advantage some people have in sports. How is this that different? It's rhetorical. You don't know.
@@klocke5247 Where are the trans men in this? Are they not winning? Trans men have a disadvantage and trans women have an advantage..
Why?
Blue shirt girl is everything that is wrong with the world. We need stronger parents.
Rude, disrespectful and dogmatic. What a joy. 🤮
She's so brainwashed in thinking that if she types something in Google (which is based on her cookies so she gets allways HER correct answer) is law. She got a mastersdegree in Google. The youth and future of the USA ladies and gentlemen.
@@WorldEater-XII Sorry to break it to you, but this isent a US issue
@@arcaneftwtv yes it is, and they try to make this lunacy global.
I can see why she insisted on being blurred out
" I DESERVE to be respected and listened to"
No you actually don't deserve either of those. You earn that right.
Her parents are older than 55, you’d think they would have taught her manners if they even have them themselves
Once they said they deserve respect lost any respect I had for the fascists you can't win argument so use personal insults an aggressive tone
I felt so bad for Peter and those two lovely blondes for having to tolerate those insufferable blur faces. 🙄
Peter is a master at allowing idiots show their own ignorance without arguing with them. He just gets them talking and soon enough their lack of reasoning shines brightly.
Modern-day Socrates.
It’s a beautiful thing
So true! Isn't there a saying about "Give him/her enough rope..."
But the frustrating thing is they walk away thinking they won. I suspect people of similar mindsets watching also think they won.
Socrates would have been canceled.
Holy crap. It’s amazing how closed minded “open minded” people are.
Their mind is extremely open to one side. 😂
I lived in Seattle for 2 years and never could understand how the left leaning preachers of tolerance were the most intolerant people I have ever been around.
@chrisbloodknot2380the girls on the disagreement side would SHOUT at you lol
They're so open-minded, their brain fell out.
Why does she sound irritating 😐
This man is impeccably patient. This women's reasoning would turn a piece of paper into origami if written down. So many internal contradictions.
"You should learn more about sports before asking about it."
How does one learn about anything without asking questions?
remember books and reading ????
I was very confused by this line of reasoning from her. She kept saying things that seemed to mean "If you're going to ask people this question you should already know the correct answer." She did it with sports a couple times and tried to do it with trans ideaology until Peter said he's onne of the top scholars in the world on the topic.
“I deserve to be respected” while simultaneously disrespecting everyone else at the same time for having a differing opinion.
Remarkable isn't it. The total lack of self awareness these people have. They literally attack everyone around them while being incapable of respecting any opposing opinions.
@@Palaecro Truly remarkable indeed. Fascinating times my friends, buckle up and enjoy the ride 🍿
I know! All the guy did was ask some simple questions and they got mad at him and called him biblical old!
Polish proverb “ why are you crying out in pain while you strike me”
Keep stocking ammo is all I can you, patriots will have a big job to do when things hit the fan
I love the contrast between the two sides. One side (strongly agree) is hateful, rude, and intolerant, and the other (strongly disagree) is reasonable, rational, and respectful.
Did we watch the same video?
I absolutely disagree with men who identify as women competing in women’s sports, but the striped-shirt girl was not hateful, rude, or intolerant.
name calling is all they can do.
@@user-br3eo6xs8v Yes, she was nice. Too bad more don't care about studies.
@J Jenkins, I'm assuming that we did. You are correct, the least vocal of the three girls was not hateful, rude or intolerant.
This is the same observation I make all the time. I used to be pretty Left, but then I saw behaviors and beliefs that didn’t resonate. Even with friends now it’s hard to talk to a Lefty. They almost always move to some personal attack. You just can’t challenge their ideas or you’re a bad person.
Imagine standing there arguing against the rights that your grandmother's fought so hard for
Absolutely heartbreaking
My good god, as someone on the left myself, I am embarrassed by these women. Not once was his opinion shared, he only asked questions yet they attacked him. Also, the contradiction about being open minded was mind boggling. Absolutely ridiculous
"She doesn't respect me!" - from the mouth of a completely horrible person who spent the entire time disrespecting everyone else, calling them names, cursing, accusing them of being bigots and transphobes for simply not agreeing with their ideology. What an absolutely disgusting human being.
Agreed! That is truly a horrible individual and very difficult to listen to.....prejudice oozing from every pore...and could speak for an hour straight without forming a coherent, logically consistent sentence. Just HORRIBLE!
Came here to say the same thing.
Seattle Seahawks parents must be proud to have raised such a righteous bully.
Perfectly said!!
I have had SJWs do that with me while debating them. Profanity and "transphobia" are their main tools.
Everything women have fought for over the years, these girls are literally attempting to unravel it all. Fair play to the girl stood on her own 👏
All three of the woke women have never played competitive sports in their life. If they did perhaps they would have a different viewpoint. I think they are athletiphobes.
It's weird because Peter Boghossian votes for Democrats. He _votes_ for the erasure of women, so it's strange for him to take the other side.
Yes! I was so proud of her.
And ya know, I feel a bit sh*tty bc I full y support trans folks in the sense they should be able to be themselves fully in representation. I can't speak on the sport bc I simply know too little about any of it.
They just don't care because they don't have a career in sports. They think sports are a game and it doesn't matter if you put a woman effort and work down the toilet to help trans women
I would date her if i wasnt taken.
Our country is lost if this is our future.
Do you understand what social engineering is? That's what is happening.
Seahawks girl basicslly said, right away, there is no amount of information you can show her that will change her mind.
"i can tell shes a cis woman"
"i know cuz im not a cis woman"
"i know what cis woman look like and act like"
interesting how when heterosexual people say the same stuff about gay people its deemed homophobic but she can freely say the same shit and its normal.
1000% agree with your statement.
She went against the popular ‘I can’t tell you what a woman is because I am not one’ ‘because I am not a biologist’
I consider myself well informed and first I have ever heard of a "cis"woman. I have asked a few close around me who are more informed than I and they have never heard the term before either. Womens rights, Civil rights and Gay rights. Those have been largely resolved with much progress so this is another "right" to keep a movement going where it has no end. They can keep coming up with new terms for something that is cerebrally complicated to keep this "new" movement going indefinitely. Hypocrisy by nature ignores thoughtful reason. Telling someone they need to search for their "unconscious" feelings is literally impossible. So is their movement. Hence their true objective. It is really self destructive. No different than a harmful addiction.
Now that sounds prejudicial.
Never have I heard the term cis. And the Seahawks woman saying over and over made her sound so dumb
The difference in likability and emotional stability between these women is notable.
It’s obvious who actually played a sport
@@jojovitale1 and who had reasonable discussions and discipline at home, growing up
Yes, some of them need constant banging in order to remain stable, which leaves us with a conundrum.
So very well said
The black women was so disrespectful yet demanded respect... How would she feel if the (old) man called her a fat ass unattractive male impersonator , they can dish it good but I wanna see how they take it 💪🏾💋
I deserve to be respected, says the individual who isn't being respectful to anyone who disagrees with them...
Does he have a phd in patience? I can hardly listen to this. It's painful. Even his facial expressions are completely patient. I could not resist the urge to raise my eyebrows or roll my eyes. Man, whatever compassion/ poker face school he went to i think i need
Congrats to the lacrosse girl. I wish there are lots more like her in the schools and colleges!
The other 2 have probably never played a sport. The lacrosse girl has watched men's lacrosse. Men shoot the ball 100+ mph and would kill (literally) a female goalie with the ball. Women shoot probably around 70 mph, but their game isn't based on delivering high velocity shots. Women's sticks are different and the field is different because of the genetic differences. I will tell you, women's lacrosse is an absolute track meet. They don't sub much and the field is bigger. I can't imagine how good of shape those women are in.
trans people really need to learn its not all about them.
She's probably being cancelled by everyone she knows
It's so easy to be peer pressured into any belief at that age and in that environment. In a year's time, she could be a full-blown SJW.
@@DrDeuteron guys with tits
“You can’t just define words however you want”
“Like man and woman” 😂
That was priceless
It's what they do.
That was genius!! 😂😂😂. « Words have meaning!!!!” “Things mean things!!!!“ until they don’t mean what you want them to mean, right? Completely mind boggling 😵💫
:)
This whole gender issue is just a sign that people have too few real problems...
I would wonder if the two first women ever competed in sports. I’m guessing not.
They definitely did not.
I love how she gave the definition of transphobic and then she proceeded to be a transphobe, based on her definition.
As a BW, the Black young woman was highly disrespectful & condescending. The young lady in the Seahawks jersey refusing to accept data & facts simply to avoid being transphobic says it all. It's not about the truth, it's about dominating the narrative & refusing to accept their position is incorrect.
She is living in her "truth". That's why I switched to using "reality".
Right!
I though it was a black transwoman
Women being more concerned for the "feelings" of (trans)women over the Safety of Real Ones.. 🙄
They said they weren't a woman...lol. I agree with everything you said.
No wonder why they wanted their faces blurred. They were incredibly rude, aggressive, immature, ignorant, arrogant, incoherent and close-minded. Absolutely pathetic and shameful. And it's scary how common this is becoming.
We don't knot that they asked to have their faces blurred. It sounds like Peter chose to do that to protect them, possibly because they looked so ugly (and I don't mean physically.)
"They"?? Only one has her face blurred...
@@SamDeeksRelovedGuitarsNo, two of them do. The one in the white t-shirt and the one in the Seahawks sweatshirt.
@@xuscbsYeah, true. And in any case they wouldn't have asked, they would've demanded it haha
@@oscarr9761 Yes lol I commented too early when there was only one. I was juking that the OP was tip-toeing around gender calling her 'they / them' instead of 'she' etc. Then I couldn't find my original comment to edit :D
The snapping! Its so ridiculous
Each snap gives them a boost of self-righteousness. Truly laughable
They’re so silly. 3 mins in. How can she believe this crap? She’s not an athlete, so dangerous in some sports, the size and strength difference makes it so.
The girl in the blue sweater got significantly more hostile once the girl in the white shirt showed up, it emboldened her. I cannot believe how calm he was able to stay through all of this. Its unbelievable how much hate they have in their hearts for people that dont agree with them, and to demand respect from people she just berated was mindblowing.
That last part is the most mind blowing, the simple act of verbally disrespecting people, then claiming they are disrespecting YOU when they're on their phone calmly is just soooo telling
That's called double standards.
For some reason, being rude is a common trait among trans activist. When people disagree it's normal things get heated, but trans activist are almost always rude. Why? I see atheists and theists, Christians and Muslims, debate calmly all the time. Why is this never the case with trans activists?
@@prosperitynuggets 💯💯💯💯💯
@@prosperitynuggets because they know what they believe isn't real deep down. They actually don't believe their own nonsense.
The socratic method: just ask questions. And people will gladly display their ignorance and insanity. Love the video, thanks!
Yeah, with the behavior of those reality-phobes, we can see why Socrates decided to drink hemlock instead of be exiled.
These kids are so blindingly and willfully stupid, it may simply be impossible to have an intelligent discussion with them about anything.
This is a textbook example
@@whenpigsfly8178 Lol no doubt my friend
All of high school we were only taught through the Socratic method, I’m so grateful loll
When animals get cornered they panic and get aggressive.
The blurry faced are incredibly miserable …
Respect to the girl who had reality contact enough and had courage enough to disagree, even when standing there alone. Glad she got company after a while. 😊
Yeah she rocks :)
But she's transphobic
I love how they are so proud of themselves yet ashamed to have their faces shown. Classic.
Exactly. Those two were the most self righteous yet the only two who wouldn't show their identities.
Maybe deep down inside, they know they should be embarrassed.
I love how the one girl just walked away! shows you how united & strong that side is! meanwhile blonde girl was willing to stand on her own whole time!
@@skylark1237 it would've got worse if that 3rd girl that showed up in the end got to talk & parrot the other 2
@@2stroketyson79ou could already see the mob mentality forming just when the “nonbinary” girl showed up and there were now three of them on that line. If a fourth person would have come to stand with them, and one of the original girls hadn’t walked away, yeah, the dynamic could have gotten out of hand even more.
She got so triggered over "pastrami sandwich" lmaoo, she says "this is literally a joke" like yeah, it was😂
My favorite part is when they shift into complete Red Guard mode when asked to define what they mean by the terms they're using
I’m so proud of the girl who disagrees and stands her ground. She’s a ray of sunshine in this darkening world
Me too. Very reasonable and respectful. And the only one that seemed to actually wanted to learn and challenge her own beliefs and not just try and force her opinion onto others.
i'm not so much proud of her as i am disappointed in the other two... as, i expect people to understand how F'd up trans women in women's sports is.
She seems delusional and inexperienced in life. While also being super confident, dangers combo for horrid decision making skills.
@@MetroidCannonBall You're talking about the pro trans girl in the blue Seahawks shirt now, i suppose..? Because that's the one that seemed to be super confident while lacking knowledge and life experience imo.. I ask because i believe the original comment was about the Lacrosse girl that disagreed with trans women competing against women. I found her to be very reasonable actually.
@@kdogg6781 takes bravery to speak the truth these days though
The difference is obvious. One side is willing to reason and listen; the other is rude, offensive and entitled. It's just shameful.
That will be their downfall.
its because they've asigned start moral values to these issues, if you disagree, you are ontologically evil
Absolutely, and aint it mindblowing and enraging at the same time how the far left Liberals dont understand that when they them he her or whatever they claim to be go as 2 he/hes to an Ordained Minister to get so called "married" a Minister has to read a verse from the Holy Bible that is there to be read only at the Ceremony of joining a Man and a Woman together in Holy Matrimony for life. Why cant they understand exactly whats wrong with this "Marriage" of 2 same gender picture as none of their marriages are official. What has to be read is from the Bible that clearly says that No Man Shall Lye With Another Man for it is an Abomination to the Lord. Im just so enraged by how they seem to go out of their way to not comprehend any facts and how ridiculous they all are in their mental state. Sorry i get carried away...Thanks
The funny thing is that they do not even realise it. They clearly have mental issues.
Spoil brats
I love how they just repeat things they have been told without doing any research on their own.
Yep, and then they assume, when you bring facts and data to the table, that you're doing the same thing. Almost like they're projecting, which is a narcissistic behavior. They just assume everyone is/should be like them.
It's a movement of narcissists.
It unbelievable we are even having this debate. A whole generation has been lost to lunacy.
The patience of this guy is admirable.
Not bad for a CIS gender male Boomer😊.
@@tommcfadden5232 what
@@tommcfadden5232Please translate. Too many labels for me 😂
It’s really sad to hear the mental gymnastics these girls go through to justify their ridiculous argument
The one goes to the age old name calling “trans phone”. This is how these people silence the sheep who have common sense.
2 Evil women right there
It’s crazy how one side is calm and giving reasonable answers and reasoning and one side is horribly disrespectful, unintelligent and angry.
and anonymous. Like they're not even willing to put their face or identity to their own arguments.
@@ZeMole420because they know they don't actually believe the crap they're saying. They don't want their friends and family to see them being such morons
Im 30 sec into video and i already know who and which viewpoint you are talking about
Yep. Because when you hold no truth, you only hold anger.
They’re acting out because their opinions are getting debunked 😭‼️
Well done sir, reasonable questions leading to a reasonable conclusion can hardly be denied even by hardliners.
Peter has the patience of a saint. Wish I could be more like him!
This man is the most patient human being I've ever come across.
agree just by listening my blood pressure rises, kudos to Peter.
I know I don't know how he's doing it
Boghossian is the most intelligent man in the room because he's pretending to be the dumbest man in the room… Much more interested in what others say than talking over them.
Observe that stupidly insecure people try hard to be heard, so it's wise not to be like that.
If you are reasonably thoughtful and intelligent, don't be ruffled about any disagreement & don't worry about convincing the wilfully ignorant. THAT quiet forbearance is the Skill.
Patience is a virtue given by God
It simply needs to be accepted
@@timothya2742patience is something you train. Not something your given.
insulting this man and yelling at him when he’s completely calm and you voluntarily put yourself into the conversation is so beyond disgusting
The blatant ageism was appalling.
It makes it worse because one of the women on the other side pointed out there was no need to attack each other and they just kept doing it.
She ran her mouth and talked shit because no one has given her back what she gives out ,when someone calls her a fat ass unattractive male impersonator , she'll learn to respect other people💪🏾💋
-Are you educated on X?
-I think so! (while not elaborating too much)
Honestly the PERFECT debate tactic is to let the crazies rile themselves up while refusing to let them believe that they are smart or special. I might copy this tactic when talking to morons (throwing a sprinkling of a few made up words in there):
"The procedural doofusility of transgenderism's duality is predicated and nontwerkfiscated upon common CIS beliefs but, in reality, we should all flux-capactitate to make up for our unconcious bias in order to diddlydoo our preconceptions; thus I believe that about most places such as Iraq and EVERYWHERE like such as for a better and more inclusive future!"
When you have no science or facts behind your argument, it's always best to insult others.
Good job, Peter! It's hilarious to see how all you have to do, is to be candid, open, and ask people questions, so that they can discover how baseless and hypocritical their belief system is, having no argument to support their BIG claims. The bit with words definition got me! I was screaming "what about a word "WOMAN" that your group has redefined to fit the narrative?!", and then you got her. Brilliant!
This is a great topic and should be discussed. Off topic, where has the American education system been? Count how many times these youngsters say the word “like”. It’s is absurd!
So brave they hide their faces, so tolerant they insult others, so open-minded that nothing will change their mind, so intelligent that they don't understand simple questions...
This, this and this!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@NeoDarkling Thank you!!
Underrated comment ❤
Maybe a hasty generalisation but Americans are too aggressive and get personal and too emotional too quickly.
English are more calmer and respectful.
You're intelligence in wording summed up what i wanted to say.
“I deserve to be respected.”
Respect isn’t something one deserves. It’s something one earns.
Literally made me lol when I heard that.
@Fallout Entertainment Industries actually it's the law you respect in that case. I personally wouldn't go into people's houses, but I'm sure others would if there were no law
@Fallout Entertainment Industries don't mix respecting the NAP and respecting ones persona. The first is a respect to the idea of peace, whilst the second is a respect of personal choices. The latter doesn't "desevre" respect, it's earned
If you don't give it you don't get it! Period!
"I deserve to be respected", moment after she makes fun of Peter's age and disparages everybody else.
Wow Peter this clip was great. I’ve subscribed. Keep up the good work and do lots more. Im addicted 😊
It amazes me the level of boldness and rudeness one can allow themselves to fall to based on opinions they supposedly hold very close to their hearts, while simultaneously not having conviction and courage enough to do so without anonymity.
The woman who stood there on her own was very brave to speak her mind, she handled herself very well. Was clear, concise, and didn’t react emotionally. The other side…not so much, which is very telling.
emotions dont care about your facts. the sooner you learn this the better the kool aid will taste
I think people can think of themselves any way they want but no matter what they call themselves they were born a man. So when it comes to sports no way.
O your confused... Their hate and intolerance is ok because they are rite and all of their opinions become fact once they rattle around in their little Pee Brains and come spewing out of their mouth like Diarrhea. Also, fact and words mean shit.. Unless they want them to mean other shit. Ya BiGot!!
@@NavyVetJack Agreed!
She was also the hottest!
The woman in blue hurt my head. Not surprising she asked to have her face blurred. Sad and scary how easily someone is called a hater just because they have a different opinion, the word phobia is thrown around too loosely. Kudos to the woman on the right, was very respectful and held her ground.
They don’t know what the word phobia even means
The most pompous know-it-alls lecturing others about not being knowledgeable enough don't want anyone knowing who they are and can't defend their absurd positions.
Imagine married to her.
That's what I was about to say but you couldn't have said it any better.
This is the cancel culture that is plainly being promoted today
This chic said “criterian” ….. I’m done 😂
I know that fucking made me. I corrected the silly bitch.
I'm still laughing...😅
This is f ing crazy. The two girls on the right are dealing with these people so well. Props to you both.
“I deserve to be respected”
Respect is a two way street!!
I DEMAND AND DESERVE RESPECT YOU LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT !!! 👏👏😂😂 Its funny how comedians use this to make ppl laugh, but now ppl are legit doing it, and mean it 😂😂
Respect is earned.
why do they crave the respect of who they think are bigots?
I wouldn't want a literal neonazi to validate me lol. Clearly they do not truly believe they are bigots.
Respect is earned not given
Yeah she actually said
I deserve attention
I deserve respect
Lmaoooo
Well I think we might have found the underlying cause of her transition... She deserves attention
The more you let them talk, the deeper the intellectual hole they dig. This is what passes for intelligence and wisdom on college campuses. It’s pathetic.
Spot on
You can tell, can't you. They start to question why you want to know. They attack, then feel attacked. It's floundering.
@@Non-dual-mind1 yes I think what really got her uncomfortable was the question about trans inmates, forcing her to shift her stance. Should be used as course material on the study of dogmatic thinking
@@paddydiddles4415 This was a not only a legitimate question Peter asked, but a fabulous one. Of course her response was "That is a completely different question". This can be seen at 22:30 timestamp. Stay woke haha
They are not interested in intelligence or wisdom. They are only interested in virtue. By adhering to the “transphobia” sin scale, all others less “virtuous” are bigoted, closed minded assholes. They will not move position based on facts or wisdom because it will require them to loose their virtue position. It’s really sad and disgusting to see such capable young women affected by this mind virus.
the conversation was more or less pretty civil until that woman with the beanie came through. Her inability to debate properly yet constantly insult the opposing side really empowered the blue-jacket girl to do the same. Their argument fell apart once it just became a shouting/bullying match for them
Seahawks person needs to spend more time in class. The more she talked, the more ignorant she sounded. SMH - so disrespectful.
Time in class is her problem. She needs to spend more time in reality.
I love how the blue shirt girl and the white shirt girl are so aggressive they started making the nice girl next to them start to rethink why she is agreeing with them lol
LOL, that's what I think as well.
the white shirt "girl" is a duuuude! had way to much personally in it being right an not being questioned.
Nice girl in stripes wanted to move but got too scared… which is probably the ultimate definition of transphobia right there … paralytic fear of disagreeing with a trans position in case you get told you are an awful person.
couldn't agree more with everyone in the replies haha
They are caught in their own stupidity. Where is the critical thinking in these little narcissists? Lol. That is literally what the definition of her is. It's funny to watch.
I love how Peter plays dumb to get them to drop their guard. Absolute genius move, when you give people this sort of confidence they will say the stupidest shit. 🤣
I was just thinking the same thing. Him and any others I see playing dumb is brilliant. Gets the other flustered seconds into conversation and lets them bury themselves.
Yes ahaha
I know, I get so angry at the sheer stupidity I could never stay so neutral…after watching this I had the strong urge to punch something
He knows they are arrogant
I don’t believe these people are smart enough to even figure that out
Wow. So respectful as a host even in the crossfire.
It never fails, when they can’t form logical articulation about what they believe, they start saying “why do you care?/why are you doing this?/what’s your goal” lol like the only reason Seahawk snob participated was because she assumed Peter had a goal of “helping” trans “women”! But this was about discussion and the that moment she found that out she was like 😡😡😡
This guy is an absolute genius. He’s just letting them talk and no one has to make them look uneducated and close minded they do that ALL in their own!!! Keep it up man!!! Keep exposing this craziness
Well said my brother
yeah, let people dig their own grave haha.
How so?? Didn't she make a good point about there being inherent genetic advantages in sports, with the example of Michael Phelps's wingspan??
@@nolistrombowli8288 he is still a MAN in a male category.
Never assume anything unless they say it first.
“You should know more about sports before you ask about it”. And that is how learning dies
You see this response over and over. Complete nonsense.
Yeah you have to ask questions in order to know more
@@mike02454 he needs to some how be an expert in every possible field of study and sports before he can even ask a question.
Every time they thought they figured out his strategy, they were still lost on it.
The question really is “why is men and women sport separated?”. Therefore, let them have these categories to be fair: Men, Women, Transgender. Period!
The moment she said nothing would move her from a position is the moment she lost. If no amount of evidence will move you from a certain position you're basically making faith based arguments.
good point
+ R M You're basically a Christian.
Bad faith.
Isn’t that what most conservatives do? Believes in an invisible god
@@YoungMiseryK I am atheist, but the left sees me as conservative because they completely disconnected themselves from reality.
When someone uses the word "cisgender" to describe people who correlate their "identity" with their biological sex, you better buckle up because you're about to witness the greatest mental gymnastics you've ever seen.
Hahahahha 😂 facts!!! I would walk away my brain can’t handle stupidity.
Me: Cisgender? So like male and female?
Then: No! People birth sex!!!
Me: sooo male and females???
Them: dhdhdbdhdhdjshdhdhhdbbfhh!!!
so true
But men can give birth didn't you hear lol
@@terreneofficial XY chromosomes
He’s literally not even saying anything and ppl freak out lol
“What’s up sis ? “ was the way I addressed my sister and her friends that I was close too !
I'm so sick of people who claim to be "inclusive" treating people they disagree with like garbage, because it happens all the time and it's really disgusting.
Also people who use the word 'nuance' while literally leaving zero room for negotiation and thougthful dialogue.
IThese women are advocating for men to enter female spaces. They are men’s rights activists, and they have no idea.
Agreed. Couldn't have said it better.
Exactly this. They use the cultural sledgehammer of “transphobia” to silence anyone who even slightly deviates from their beliefs with the threat of ruining their life. It’s absolutely disgusting and the antithesis to a society built on the foundation of free speech and civil debate.
I may be mistaken, but I have no patience for people like that. If they're going to be disrespectful then they're getting the same from me. They can eat a bag of dicks as far as i'm concerned.
This man has unshakeable resolve. This girl in the Seahawks sweater is so desperate to feel offended. I feel so bad for anybody around her.
Same thing for the black girl. They’re just being biased
Being in a relationship with her would be an absolute hell
@@miktalu1639 Yea. That's why you have to know when to walk away I guess. I didn't learn that until my late twenties.
Can you imagine the poor bastard that ends up marrying the Seahawk sweater broad? I'd hang myself eventually.
I do not like that girl one bit. Nuh-uh, no way. Unbearable and toxic, and also wrong.
Why are they so rude? Very sad indeed. Who brings these people up?
They don't even understand that they're destroying their own argument
the amount of narcissism and aggression from one side really pushes you the other way
Not the whole of the one side. The girl in the striped shirt seemed pretty nice and reasonable.. at least with the 3 sentences the other two allowed her to get out.
She really seemed sweet, I believe the other 2 will eventually push her further away.
That is all they are about. It’s a sick cult.
So angry
It's precisely why I am disgusted with this gender ideology debate that seems mired in an aggressive, focused effort to disregard the basic fact of human biology. Americans get angry about this, but as a South East Asian, I assure, as left-leaning as I am, this sort of reaction from the far left just boggles the mind. There seems to be little patience for common sense, these days.
Wow, those girls for being so "open and inclusive" were hateful, rude and judgemental. Good for that one girl who spoke her mind and stood up to them! We need more people fighting back!
@Mary Beth Kinda like how Disney calls people bigots for not liking certain characters even if they suck. They have no defense to crticism so they resort to insults.
Text book leftist. They are inclusive, open and accepting as long as people have same ideala and belief as theirs. If they disagree, then they are fascist, bigot, racist. So where is the inclusive and we are are DIFFERENT mindset and acceptance to all?
Spot on
@@topherguch3278 depends on the criticism
Standing up just gets you eradicated. You need to enable them to make fools of themselves.
The combination of internet and weird ideologies has convinced many mice that they are foxes and many sheep that they are wolves.
Amazing that the two who blur their faces are so much smarter than everyone else. Wonder how they will be doing in 10 hrs.
I’m all girl…born that way…and no one better ever call me cis!!!!
I totally agree! That label triggers me! 👎😮
You go girl! Well said 👏
CIS does not exist. Being born male or female isn't a choice or identity. The whole thing is a non-starter.
Imagine being called "CIS-Human".
Agreed
Exactly. I will gladly walk around and call myself a WOMAN or natural-born woman, no matter who it upsets.
I love how he never gave his opinion ONCE and only asked questions. Yet, they still insulted, bullied, and called him bigot for simply asking them questions. They assumed his position just because they realized their stance on the subject is unfounded and have no defense but to attack.
Exactly. He asked the girls on the other side very similar questions from the other end of the spectrum, yet they didn’t assume anything.
While true, there was a bit of info telling from his face and how he asked the question/what questions he picked (only for some of them) that kinda hinted he wasn’t pro-bullshit. 😂
It was blatant.. he immediately inferred all these specific arguments from the "disagree" girl, which she had not at all stated. He strengthened her position with support and asked her if that's what she "meant". If you think that doesn't give away his opinion, you should see someone else do the same process. It can be done better. He very clearly injected argumentation and they argued with him because they smelled it. I smelled it too. And I am not even on their side in terms of my views.
You'd not like this if the epistemologist were doing the same but for the opposite viewpoint instead.
He's so good at this EXCEPT when it comes to trans issues, he's a MASSIVE ideologue. When he does long-form interviews its with people who say trans people don't exist PERIOD. You can tell the way he softballs one side and goes hardball on the other.
And for the record, Lia Thomas didn't do better when she transitioned. She was winning or coming in top 5 as a man and winning or coming in top 5 as a woman. Just read her Wikipedia lmao. Even the ANECDOTES are misrepresented.@@maljamin
@@crzyprplmnkymen don't belong in womens sports. They don't belong in womens locker rooms. They don't belong in womens restroom. They should not be taking away opportunities meant specifically for women
See if i was such a bad faith actor in a debate, I would want my picture blurred out too.😂
The term "Cisgender" was first counted in 1994 and didn't make it into dictionaries until 2015, yet the alphabet community expects the world to recognize that 8 year old term... 😂
Seahawks girl is unbearable, but she does say something interesting at the end:
"It's not about, like, me believing in facts. It's not about me listening to the research. It's literally called, like, I'm standing on this line because I refuse to be transphobic."
So apparently she doesn't care about facts, or truth, or what is logical. She just doesn't want to be seen as transphobic, because that could damage her reputation and social standing.
Santa Cruz girl is another interesting character - she says she agrees because she doesn't want to deny anyone's identity and wants to be respectful, however she would be open to reassessing her stance if presented with new data. But then at the end, when voices are raised and she sees the anger in her peers, she leaves the conversation entirely, probably out of fear of being turned against.
nailed it
🎯
Exactly, they're afraid of what others might think of them, even at the cost of truth. They rather stand with a lie than accept facts.
Btw, I'm glad Ms. Seattle never got her definition for "ally".😄
She values approval over truth, it’s in her dna.
She actually said to the guy so you dont have nothing to say " to add to the narrative".Is she saying its just narration or made up things and not facts?
"You can't describe anything as anything. Words have meanings"
But if you ask her "what is a woman", she'll throw a tantrum.
True🤣🤣🤣
Yeah like they them zee or what ever aren't made up words
She never did define the words she was trying to use! Her lips were moving faster than her brain cells!
Exactly what I thought!!!!!
@@willworkforyarn4893 lol
"Wait a second! Who are you?! Where did you come from?" 😂😂😂🤣
ABSOLUTELY NOT!! NEVER. THE BIOLOGY DONT LIE...
I completely understand why they blurred their faces. Huge embarrassment. No real answers, interrupting, yelling, disrespectful towards other OPINIONS.
And to the holders of those opinions. As blue shirt became more and more aware of her own limitations, she blamed him for showing her a mirror.
I’d probably stab them I’ve I recognized them. I’m not even kidding. That girl in the blue is lucky af.
If I was that girl in the Seahawks shirt I wouldn't want to show my face either after those embarrassing arguments.
She should lay her outspoken beliefs on the line by allowing her face to be shown. Instead, if I behaved like she did, I would not want my face shown to anyone on this video. Pure cowardice.
And I'm pretty sure there were parts of her argument that only dogs could hear lol
That VOICE!!!
Same with her proud friend in white who admittedly has dumb parents who believe the same bullshit she does
It's what we call beautiful nonsense
I've never had such strong hatred for a stranger until that Seafalcons sweatshirt thing talked so much
Oceaneagles*
Just wait till you get to the newcomer in the white t-shirt. She makes blue-sweatshirt-girl look like Stephen Fry.
"Honestly I say things but dont give it enough thought" The new world academics in training, god help us!!