As a gay person I completely disagree with trans women competing against biological women. Its not transphobia. Its just science. We DON'T have the same biology.
That’s how woke moralists operate. Notice how she deflected the question about women’s safety in their bathrooms and spaces, and immediately starts talking about how trans people will kill themselves? It’s emotional blackmail of the most vile and grotesque kind.
I've understood something. These ppl's souls have cancer and that makes them hateful and stupid. I feel sorry for them. The only way of winning against them is winning them back... U can't erase their ideology and woke-belivies without teaching them and making them understand they're wrong. But how do you do that..
If I had a son who said he thinks he's a girl, I'd ask him why he thinks that. If he said "because I like wearing womens clothes" I'd tell him "clothes don't make a gender".
James Barr has never once said anything of substance on this show. There are so many people from the queer community who are capable of eloquently and powerfully defending their rights and beliefs. James has never been that person.
I find him hilarious to watch though his little angry outbursts and the twisted faces he makes you can see when he's building up to an outburst it's hilarious come on 😂
Agreed! 100%. These men want all the benefits of being a man in women’s arenas. Then, when disputed, have the audacity to say that NOTHING should be gendered? What would this story look like if they were competing against biological men? I’m sure there would be outrage because they would debate they are no longer evenly matched. A group of “trans-women,” aka men, that seem to simply want to do whatever they want, whenever they want, as long as it’s benefiting their self-serving rhetoric.
@@stourn2399 Exactly. The majority of women are in favour of this and there's no danger of trans-men interfering in real sports, so let the babies have their bottle.
Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If Christianity forbids Homosexuality ▪︎If a State (Govt/Clergy) approve Same Sex marriage ▪︎Christian State or Anti-Christ State?
Perhaps agreed………YET…. a further joke is that he invites on a Trump supporter to talk about her ‘fears for womens’ safety!!……..are you actually kidding me Piers!! Geesus! Now THAT’S effed up!
I can't believe we are actually talking about people being able to change their sex on a whim??? This trans crap is to destroy our American society by Globalists!! Wake up America!!
I really don’t understand why they can’t just have another lane in sports for trans people. Just add a category for trans men and trans women. Everybody’s happy.
@@Enarusai Social Engineering. Create problem. Distract population with said problem. Let the elites runk amuck while everyone is fighting each other. Oldest trick in the book and works everytime. If they simply create another lane for trans what would happen is that we wouldn't get the debates we are seeing now. And on top of that, the ratings on trans sports would be so low it would shed light on the scam.
She says why do you care about a hs track meet!?! You gotta be kidding me, to say a hs track meet has no meaning... just let the trans have it is beyond unbelievable. Those meets lead to scholarships and that is important to these "just hs" I also totally agree don't claim Francesca, she clearly has no care in her heart for girls and women.
I am a woman. I worked endlessly on my sport in high school and college because it was my passion. If a male tried to compete against me, I would not only be deeply offended, but I would boycott at all costs. I’m sure my team members and surrounding teams, along with their families would feel the same. Women and men are different, what else is there to understand?
Some people are just slow and or brainwashed. The things they eat, drink, watch. It all effects the children now and it’s been getting worse every year
Totally agree with you girl, I'm a guy, but i have seen first hand the hard work and sacrifices that females put in to train for an event, completely agree with you
This whole topic is a joke. In 50 years people will make fun about the 2020s where women's rights were not only destroyed, - people even unlearned to identify what a woman is. This is some biblical golden calf stuff
Nah, keep having her on. The general tide is turning because people see how those people act and they steer clear of them so we need more of them to be dressed down in public!(figuratively of course, not literally, ...gross)
Esther owned this argument and the virtue signaling Francesca. We need more of Esther, and her logical, straightforward, non politically correct, non virtue signaling truth bombs.
I think Tommie was right when she said all this stuff is going to fizzle out in about two years. Unless we put a Governor into the VP spot who signed a bill in Minnesota saying if a child of as young as 12 wants to get neutered and the parents don't agree, the State takes the child into their custody. I am confident the silent majority will get off their as*es and get out the vote and end this and other insanities of the far left lunatics now known as the Democrat Party.
@@anthonytaylor8457it’s still not the world. It’s only the western Anglo sphere that are having these problems/that are trying to push this hard. A lot of which are easily influenced by the USA.The rest of the world is fine lol we’re watching you guys either in shock, horror or in find it humorous that any of this needs to be discussed.
Exactly 💯 I agree if some men aren't making it in men's sports then you have no business transing over to women's sports, because biologically men and women are built differently, bone structure, testosterone men, hormones women 🤔🤷🏼♀️
@@BeliaLastes Absolutely right! I'm so disgusted with what's going on.. I'm very familiar with sports, having played football, involvement in bodybuilding, and just plain powerlifting. I feel I can speak to this. There's no way women can compete on equal, physical footing against with men. It's got to change.
When my daughter was a teenager, she came home crying because she tried to break up with her boyfriend and he was threatening to kill himself if she left him. I told her what I want to tell Fransesca, she is not responsible for his life, if he wants to harm himself, he needs help but it's not her responsibility. Women and girls are not responsible for trans suicides. Women and girls do not have to give up their own rights to prevent someone else from harming themselves.
The bigger picture is that trans discussion in women's sports lead to incredible amounts of bullying, which sadly leads to suicide much too often. Francesca is, in her own view, fighting for what she thinks is a much bigger concern than sports. I personally also believe that no one is responsible for someone's suicide, even bullies, but the statistics are way too clear on the issue. When a trans teenager sees Francesca defending her unconditionally, it might flip just the switch over. Things like this can make the difference.
@@Olphoracaca which study, that keeps being referenced, and a recent one shows the quantitative study with the result that trans suicide more than other groups?
As much as I love Piers and agree with his opinions-he is right 99.9% of the time-I think as a presenter, he needs to allow the panel to battle it out more. He drives the agenda a little too much when a topic like this doesn't need it.
" the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way." And it wasn't until American Armstrong landed on the moon in 1969 (after burning people at the stake for hundreds of years for saying exactly what you just said), that the Catholic Church finally admitted that the Earth revolves around the sun.
It must be really heartbreaking. Two have trained for years for a man to come along and say I now I identify as a woman and win the race 🤔 🏴 🇬🇧 .
the little gay man is getting tedious, I don't even think he believes his own arguments, he just loves being on camera and that is why he does this. Piers should axe him and he can go back to hairdressing or whatever he does for a day job. i'm over it.
As a gay man I agree with you but don't f-ing insult other gay people because of his nauseating personally and ridiculous arguments and your clear homophobia. Go and listen to Douglas Murray and David Starkey.
Esther is usually the most calm and educated guest on the panel, you can tell she had enough of these bullsh*t rethorics today. Go off sister! Proud to have a woman like you *actually* defending our rights.
I heard a transsexual said once that they are more femenine and more woman than women selv. Then I had a strange thought.....it might posibly be the most macho way of thinking to sustain that men have to become transwomen to show women even how to be a woman. If a woman is so worthless that men should teach her how to be a woman, what is the new role of women in the gender ideology..................to be nothing?
@Elementalhandle0000 How were her rebuttals ill informed? Why should she have any time for the people actively hurting women's sport? All leftists ever say is "we don't platform what we find intolerant" but when the shoes on the other foot its not OK. Francesca and James made much much weaker arguments but you align with them so you don't call them out. This is the exact problem
I’m a gay man and I support the right of the soccer player to not wear a rainbow jersey or whatever. To compel him to do so might actually cause him to be MORE against homosexuality.
I don't think people are against homosexuality I don't think that's what people are upset about I think what they're upset about is the other rest of the alphabet TQ plus plus plus plus, I think the gays have accomplished amazing accomplishments, it was decades worth of hard work blood sweat tears and heartache, just to have some t Q plus plus plus plus plus people pull the rug right out from under all that hard work it's absolutely important and I think that we honestly need to separate ourselves from all of this, I know a lot of trans women and they want nothing to do with this and that is like 6 6 and I know they don't want anything to do with those people they think they're freaking crazy, so we need to start speaking up for what is right and I think it's leave the f****** kids alone leave women sports alone and stay out of our f****** washrooms, people think oh transgender okay so we're going to have women like Blair and Jenner when that's not the case there's some really gross disgusting men coming into women's washrooms and making people feel uncomfortable
I'm not against gays or their lifestyles and I'm not against them wanting to play sports ...but I'm against them being born a male and waking up one day claiming they are women and jumping into the women's sports like they have been a women the whole time ... If Trans men or women want to play whatever sports then they need to get together and make up their own teams ......and go play each other
As a woman I’m glad Esther & Tomi are on that panel!! 👏🏼 Beautiful, intelligent, and they know how to behave not like the other two wanna be comedians!
They are entrenched in their own stubborness and are deaf to the voice of their common sense. They have confused their common sense with their mainstream media indoctrination and therefore are always in Conflict with Themselves!! 😔
Francesca in this debate said she was against bullying, yet call all women "whiners" for not wanting men to invade their spaces. While Esther was destroying her arguments, she could not bounce back with a response, calling her "lady." She definitely does not speak for women and should never try to pretend to be a righteous activist when all she does is argue so immaturely, it's embarrassing.
Thank you for such a detailed analysis. When emotions are high, what u really are will show..that's why she called the black lady a 'lady' and other women 'whiners'
Poor Ester having to deal with these idiots, Francesca and James. It’s unbelievable. What has happened to people’s intelligence! It’s rather frightening.
Basically, what this is all about is certain men who can't cut it in male sports so they call themselves female invade women's sports, and that's something that I disagree with, if they want to get involved in sports, then they should develop their own division and stop gate crashing others and if they want to call me transphobic for saying so, that's their problem
You're equating intelligence with point of view. They can have a different point of view, that doesn't make them less intelligent. To say so is disrespectful
I actually wouldn't want them to stop bringing James on because it's so hilarious watching him embarrass himself every week. Imarn Ayton on the other hand, I hope they never bring her back on the show.
@@TeamAA1715 No, I’m a Francesca lover. She’s my absolute favorite political commentator. You’re welcome to make fun of LGBT people if that reinforces your false sense of superiority.
it's really funny how they will never be a woman no matter how many people tell them they're a woman and i think that sours their heart with unhappiness
Exactly! I have THREE sons and if they ever came to me and say something like “I beat Sally in a swimming race!” I would be like “so what? Go race Billy and see how you do. If you beat him, than that’s awesome!”
My son or daughter will never become trans living under me but when they get older and move out and then they decide to become trans then they will no longer be my son or daughter
And if it identifies as a zebra we are supposed to bobblehead our way through that situation, no thank you! You're a cow with zebra stripes according to literally everyone 🙄 idk what our world is coming to but we all gotta stay strong and get thru this weird phase!
They're the ones who are toxic in relationships who want to be the head of the house and go against there man. These topics are a chance for them to try to validate there delusional mind set a woman can do anything- Anything or better- a man can do..
Francesca says that us women make her feel embarassed to be a woman. But her behavior on this panel makes me feel embarassed to be an American. She was absolutely arrogant and unprofessional, not to mention downright ignorant. The only thing she was good at was beating around the bush and evading giving a straight answer.
I love how Francesca tells them not to speak for women, then goes on speaking for women. Then call women who disagree with her embarrassing. There is nothing logical coming out of her mouth. Why can't they just have a conversation and debate without going after piers physical appearance?
Common sense - not so common. So, do you validate your anorexic daughter by telling her she is fat because she sees herself that way? No, you deal with the emotional and psychological problem to help bring her life. That is love. Wake up society.
Francesa has the lowest form of wit. As soon as she can't answer the question, she gets sarcastic, rolls eyes, etc.. so annoying piers as a fellow Brit. dont have that mop head on again 🎉
Biological men, even with low testosterone: naturally more muscle mass Denser muscle More fast-twitch muscle fibre (Explosiveness and agility) Larger and stronger bones Bigger heart muscle and higher lung capacity Less body fat (women need more fat for maternal reasons) Taller Stronger Faster
Well, the thing is there is normally a third category for all. But trans women, despite that, compete with women, and moreover, trans men also compete in the women’s category. So in one case it’s about biology and then, when it suits them, it’s about identity. If they were feeling so strong that “transwomen are women”, then why trans men still compete with women(rhetorical question).
The most remarkable part of this is that James Barr repeatedly appears on this show and has not grown as a person at all, yet appears increasingly more proud of that. Fascinating.
Yes to this. I hadn’t thought about it in those terms, but you are exactly right. It’s the exact same thing from him every time we see him. His demeanor just reeks of misery and hatred, yet he is insistent that it’s everyone else on the panels who are filled with hate, unless of course they agree with him. He has no depth whatsoever, and will refuse to answer questions that require any real conviction or courage. And apparently he is supposed to be a comedian. How is that even possible? Most comedians are fairly intelligent, quick witted and generally have a sense of humor.
What about Schuyler Bailar? Kye Allums? Chris Mosier? Ness Murby? Keelin Godsey? Mack Beggs? What about Patricio Manuel who could beat the living shit out of the vast majority of all the men bitching in the comments. I mean I could go on but these are some of the best athletes in the world. These trans men are dominanting their male sports.
If this trans people are sooooo persistent. Why can't we have trans competition or league so all Trans can compete in them without interfering with women's sports?
Francesca says .. "please don't speak for me, please don't speak for all women" and then goes on to speak on behalf of all transgender athletes. How hypocritical
They haven't realized that people are absolutely DONE with this gender madness! DONE! We put up with it for a looong time, but you pushed and you pushed and you pushed and guess what? You've pushed too far! And now you've lost all the support.
@trans_Steph this makes me really sad to hear. No joke. Average people had NOTHING against trans people. One of my best friends is trans and my cousin is trans. But neither of them run around screaming about it or demanding pronouns be used or trying to have books in kindergarten about it. They both just live their lives and really don't have any problems. So I honestly do feel bad for people like you that are having to suffer because of the extremist activists.
@trans_Steph btw I'm a gay guy and I also can't stand what all the hyper-sexual pride stuff has done. Can't we just go back to the mindset of the whole "I won't bother you if you don't bother me"? There was literally a time where gay and trans people just wanted to go UNNOTICED believe it or not lolz! We wanted to live completely normal, boring lives. But then the liberal woke people got involved and the academics and media jumped on board...and now here we are in clown world.
Getting equal rights and freedom for trans people should not be at the expense of rights of women, which they struggled, fight and earned after many years of oppression. And don’t call yourself a feminist if you think its okay to let transwomen compete against women. Canadian weightlifting the transwomen won the first position but the second place lifted 300 pound less , you think thats fair
James Barr is the most pointless panelist each and every time he's on.
He’s there to just be the complete opposite of common sense 😂
Unless the point is to be the most irritating caricature he can.
100% Correct
Cheap window dressing 😂
No I hope Piers keeps inviting him on, his utter idiocy is hilarious 😂😂
As a gay person I completely disagree with trans women competing against biological women. Its not transphobia. Its just science. We DON'T have the same biology.
Thank you. Standing for women's rights.
Salute
Why isn't this a problem in mens sports?
@@ubroc because they know they're not going to win against a man if they were biologically born a female. Simple.
"MOCKERY TO FAIRNESS" IT'S NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND
The black lady here (Esther I think?) is just dropping bang on accurate truth bombs and it's great to see 👌🙌
Love Esther!! 🎉
Esther Krakau. Yeah, she’s great. If every “newcomer” (I don’t know if she is a newcomer, but anyway) was like her, there would not be a problem.
Esther Krakau. Yeah, she’s great. If every “newcomer” (I don’t know if she is a newcomer, but anyway) was like her, there would not be a problem.
And she is also stunningly beautiful
@@graemeb209 A lot of black women are, from my point of view. She is also. Truly amazing.
A guy has no business in women's sports or in a woman's restroom.It's common sense. :/ PERIOD!
As a woman, why is the feelings of the trans community far more important than mine?
That because there are more in the parliament and school and the show bisness is full of them
Especially when we are the blueprint from which they try to pattern their lives.
Because thanks to "progressives", we now live in a caste system.
@@fionamacdonald-j8b It’s not more important. Y’all just complain about stuff more.
Because this narrative must go forth. I don't support nothing that goes against the natural ways of life
This Francesca is awful. Her whataboutism. Her ignorance. It's sickening.
That's all she does is to deflect the question and play victim just like that Tin Tin wannabe
@@angele6733She must not know what cheating is..
That’s how woke moralists operate. Notice how she deflected the question about women’s safety in their bathrooms and spaces, and immediately starts talking about how trans people will kill themselves? It’s emotional blackmail of the most vile and grotesque kind.
i dont know who she is, but, i know she's hard to watch..unfunny and lacks any real insight on every subject...please stop having her on the show
I dislike her more than james barr
James Barr claiming Esther is causing him mental health issues... Then fat shames piers. He is one angry individual. Pathetic.
I've understood something. These ppl's souls have cancer and that makes them hateful and stupid. I feel sorry for them. The only way of winning against them is winning them back... U can't erase their ideology and woke-belivies without teaching them and making them understand they're wrong. But how do you do that..
Also it’s shocking for age 21 (he mentioned this in a previous show), he looks like he is in his 30s.
😮yoooooooooo
He clearly hasnt taken it up the ass today and is grumpy.
No one can stand him, he’s just there to argue the point, and yes, he’s ALWAYS wrong 😑 and irritatingly self righteous 😖
If I had a son who said he thinks he's a girl, I'd ask him why he thinks that. If he said "because I like wearing womens clothes" I'd tell him "clothes don't make a gender".
I would ask him which teacher is telling him to question his gender
You said a mouth ful there!! Thank U!!
Can you please stop having James Barr on. For the love of humanity.
Nah please do. He shows perfectly well how insane people who support this are
Nah. Every time he’s on he proves how much of an idiot he is. He must walk around being offended all day. What an absolute moron 😂
James Barr has never once said anything of substance on this show. There are so many people from the queer community who are capable of eloquently and powerfully defending their rights and beliefs. James has never been that person.
I find him hilarious to watch though his little angry outbursts and the twisted faces he makes you can see when he's building up to an outburst it's hilarious come on 😂
Keep him on!!! We need something to laugh at 😂😂😂
Francesca lost the plot. She is the epitome of brain washed.
I think you need a brain to be brain washed.
😂😂
@@TheBitBlockcorrect. She is missing the required equipment in that regard 😂
@@13mrservon she was so open minded, it fell out 😂
Yes she is out of touch maybe she has secret 🤪
Go Esther....Thank you for fighting for women....we love you👍💪💪💪
Esther is by far my favorite guest. Love Esther
Love Esther and Tomi Lahren!
Exactly
She is fierce and right. Beautiful and clever.
She’s a legend!
Why is there even a debate about whether biological men should be allowed to comptete in womens sports?
Agreed! 100%. These men want all the benefits of being a man in women’s arenas. Then, when disputed, have the audacity to say that NOTHING should be gendered? What would this story look like if they were competing against biological men? I’m sure there would be outrage because they would debate they are no longer evenly matched. A group of “trans-women,” aka men, that seem to simply want to do whatever they want, whenever they want, as long as it’s benefiting their self-serving rhetoric.
Because we live in an insane time
It’s awesome 😂🤣 this whole situation is like the ultimate troll lmao
We women don't claim Francesca 🗑️
The absurdity that she works at Al Jazeera
@@yaronnagauker305oh please no!! 😮Really? ..We are screwed
@@yaronnagauker305 she's not don't lie
despise handmaidens, literally the worst of the worst virtue signalers
For starters she knows nothing about physiology and biology so her arguments are 🗑
I'm convinced that Piers only invites James on the panel to fill an "idiot quota."
Well the easiest way to win a debate is debating with an idiot. Is it not?
@@waldemarmarwalde6817 debating an idiot is the hardest debate there is
lol exactly
@@hitman19901990
Only if you have the ambition to convince the idiot. Not if you just want to make the idiot look like an idiot
😂😂
I couldn’t possibly agree with Piers more in this argument. This is a joke and a crime against women.
imo it's fraud
yet many women soppurt'em...
@@stourn2399 Exactly. The majority of women are in favour of this and there's no danger of trans-men interfering in real sports, so let the babies have their bottle.
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If Christianity forbids Homosexuality
▪︎If a State (Govt/Clergy) approve Same Sex marriage
▪︎Christian State or Anti-Christ State?
Perhaps agreed………YET…. a further joke is that he invites on a Trump supporter to talk about her ‘fears for womens’ safety!!……..are you actually kidding me Piers!! Geesus! Now THAT’S effed up!
The black lady is genius
And a dime
Francesca says "don't speak on behalf of all women".... she proceeds to speak on behalf of all trans people 😂😂😂
Exactly. Totally clueless.
I can't believe we are actually talking about people being able to change their sex on a whim??? This trans crap is to destroy our American society by Globalists!! Wake up America!!
str8 up Ludacris
@@wokeisajoke6806 she made a complete ass out of herself...
its the hardest arguing against stvpid people
Silliest debate.Trans should compete with trans.End of the story.
I agree trans against trans as a separate sport....I can tell you who would win....Trans MEN
I really don’t understand why they can’t just have another lane in sports for trans people. Just add a category for trans men and trans women. Everybody’s happy.
The unfortunate reason why this ideology is, it would out them as trans and they don’t want that. They want to live a lie. Sad.
@@Enarusai Social Engineering. Create problem. Distract population with said problem. Let the elites runk amuck while everyone is fighting each other. Oldest trick in the book and works everytime. If they simply create another lane for trans what would happen is that we wouldn't get the debates we are seeing now. And on top of that, the ratings on trans sports would be so low it would shed light on the scam.
they'd stop competing if there was an equal playing field
I speak for all women when I say we don't claim Francesca. She is not one of us.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Respect
Worrying about men using the same bathroom as women means you see men as abusers and never someone who just has to use the bathroom.
She says why do you care about a hs track meet!?! You gotta be kidding me, to say a hs track meet has no meaning... just let the trans have it is beyond unbelievable. Those meets lead to scholarships and that is important to these "just hs" I also totally agree don't claim Francesca, she clearly has no care in her heart for girls and women.
You need help@@wilpri
Why is it dismissed when asked about women feeling uncomfortable in a changing room with a man that is trans. They just totally ignored it.
James and Francesca’s arguments are furthermore proving their Idiocracy.
James maybe but Fran Fran is always on point. You're just not the sharpest pencil out there
Francesca thinks Mike Tyson should be allowed to beat the shit out of all female boxers on pay per view. What an absolute maniac - let her ideas rot
@@Matt-zx1fh On point with the typical woke ideology. She's clearly delusional.
@@Matt-zx1fhHow is anything she said on point you soft little wet?
@@Matt-zx1fhWhataboutism is not a valid form of argument. Lefties are dumb.
I am a woman. I worked endlessly on my sport in high school and college because it was my passion. If a male tried to compete against me, I would not only be deeply offended, but I would boycott at all costs. I’m sure my team members and surrounding teams, along with their families would feel the same. Women and men are different, what else is there to understand?
Anyone born a man should never compete against a woman. Period. Genetics are totally different.
Some people are just slow and or brainwashed. The things they eat, drink, watch. It all effects the children now and it’s been getting worse every year
supportin this
Totally agree with you girl, I'm a guy, but i have seen first hand the hard work and sacrifices that females put in to train for an event, completely agree with you
These people are fjed off
Please don’t have that Francesca woman on again. What a joke.
This whole topic is a joke.
In 50 years people will make fun about the 2020s where women's rights were not only destroyed, - people even unlearned to identify what a woman is.
This is some biblical golden calf stuff
Nah, keep having her on. The general tide is turning because people see how those people act and they steer clear of them so we need more of them to be dressed down in public!(figuratively of course, not literally, ...gross)
Shes so pretty though, I can change her.
boorish women are a bit of a type in the coastal regions these days
Whenever she's on she spews garbage
Due to this, I boycotted the Olympics for Life!
Where does Piers find these idiots? James and Francesca should never be given airtime
They're both utterly delusional!
Agree
Agree
Uh give them more airtime.. a lot of people don’t know clowns like this actually exist until they see this plus it’s quality entertainment
Correct word "air"
Francesca and James stood for nothing but lunacy!!!
Esther owned this argument and the virtue signaling Francesca. We need more of Esther, and her logical, straightforward, non politically correct, non virtue signaling truth bombs.
I think Tommie was right when she said all this stuff is going to fizzle out in about two years. Unless we put a Governor into the VP spot who signed a bill in Minnesota saying if a child of as young as 12 wants to get neutered and the parents don't agree, the State takes the child into their custody. I am confident the silent majority will get off their as*es and get out the vote and end this and other insanities of the far left lunatics now known as the Democrat Party.
As a trans man, I understand. DNA does not change.
U should send this to 100x trans and let em know
The fact that this is even a debate shows how f**k up this world is..
Not the world just the united states
@@jerome80742 of these people aren't even from the US clown
@jerome8074 I guess you also missed the part where France us making athletes wear pride flags. Clearly not just the US.
@@anthonytaylor8457fucked up western world.
@@anthonytaylor8457it’s still not the world. It’s only the western Anglo sphere that are having these problems/that are trying to push this hard. A lot of which are easily influenced by the USA.The rest of the world is fine lol we’re watching you guys either in shock, horror or in find it humorous that any of this needs to be discussed.
Failure as a man, in men's sports, does not give anyone a right to destroy women's sports!
I said the same thing🙌👏👏👏
Amen 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾📍
Exactly 💯 I agree if some men aren't making it in men's sports then you have no business transing over to women's sports, because biologically men and women are built differently, bone structure, testosterone men, hormones women 🤔🤷🏼♀️
@@BeliaLastes Absolutely right! I'm so disgusted with what's going on.. I'm very familiar with sports, having played football, involvement in bodybuilding, and just plain powerlifting. I feel I can speak to this. There's no way women can compete on equal, physical footing against with men. It's got to change.
Absolutely right.. Unfair for the Woman sports
I’m a simple man…I see James Barr I put a thumbs down 👎🏻
He's such a helmet 🤣
We are in agreement with you being simple lol
I see james barr i stick pens in my f ing eyes
I see him and like the video because I enjoy Barr's humiliation fetish.
He and the other woman are so dumb
That woman on the right needs psychiatrist.
The fact there are no trans men playing in men’s pro sports should tell us all we need to know about this argument.
Nailed it.
Exactly.
You mean the fact no women want to play in men’s sports😅
Nono, let's be honest, there was that one MMA fighter that competed against a dude....
and got dismanteled in the ring and never returned :(
There are, but they're not outperforming the other men. I wonder why...
Arguing with a smart person is difficult. Arguing with stupid people is utterly impossible.
Facts🎉
James Barr is an idiot
When arguing with a fool, onlookers won't know who's who....
Except in this case lol
That everyone's opininion.
Well spoken
When my daughter was a teenager, she came home crying because she tried to break up with her boyfriend and he was threatening to kill himself if she left him. I told her what I want to tell Fransesca, she is not responsible for his life, if he wants to harm himself, he needs help but it's not her responsibility. Women and girls are not responsible for trans suicides. Women and girls do not have to give up their own rights to prevent someone else from harming themselves.
Nicely put! Thank you for your insight ❤
Thank you ❤
Absolutely!
The bigger picture is that trans discussion in women's sports lead to incredible amounts of bullying, which sadly leads to suicide much too often. Francesca is, in her own view, fighting for what she thinks is a much bigger concern than sports. I personally also believe that no one is responsible for someone's suicide, even bullies, but the statistics are way too clear on the issue. When a trans teenager sees Francesca defending her unconditionally, it might flip just the switch over. Things like this can make the difference.
@@Olphoracaca which study, that keeps being referenced, and a recent one shows the quantitative study with the result that trans suicide more than other groups?
Francesca is not living in reality.
She is a far left liberal
@@minhtran6333 she left her mind!
Glad to see 3 people here have functioning brains.
Soo agree the other two have no idea what they talking about because there brain is out of normal function
As much as I love Piers and agree with his opinions-he is right 99.9% of the time-I think as a presenter, he needs to allow the panel to battle it out more. He drives the agenda a little too much when a topic like this doesn't need it.
3 out of 5 ain't great. But, I'll take it.
@@juddcareylol I was thinking same thing!
@@BoneStarr2kagreed
The fact that we don't hear about trans men going to compete with other biological men, is quite telling
Or how about a trans man competing with other trans men?
YEP
BCus most don’t make the cut lol or qualify in trials
@@judithanneraeNo! fk no, No!!!!..they'll start making out in the ring.
😂
A man is a man. A woman is a woman. And, by the way, the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way.
That comment will hurt people's feelings and victims rights matter more. And facts are racist.
@@joshuag5446 I'm triggered. I'm not sure what I'm triggered over, but I'm triggered. Probably.
" the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way."
And it wasn't until American Armstrong landed on the moon in 1969 (after burning people at the stake for hundreds of years for saying exactly what you just said), that the Catholic Church finally admitted that the Earth revolves around the sun.
Need to get someone on the microphone switch
@@joshuag5446The truth matters more in JESUS NAME
It must be really heartbreaking. Two have trained for years for a man to come along and say I now I identify as a woman and win the race 🤔 🏴 🇬🇧 .
the little gay man is getting tedious, I don't even think he believes his own arguments, he just loves being on camera and that is why he does this. Piers should axe him and he can go back to hairdressing or whatever he does for a day job. i'm over it.
Can't stand that gay dude
Piers keeps him around to sound smarter, of course he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. It’s a character piers pays him to do.
@@ghostpiratelechuck2259 100% correct, just nonsense to aggravate people and a way to keep both sides watching.
He doesn’t have arguments he just states how disgusted he is.
As a gay man I agree with you but don't f-ing insult other gay people because of his nauseating personally and ridiculous arguments and your clear homophobia. Go and listen to Douglas Murray and David Starkey.
Esther is usually the most calm and educated guest on the panel, you can tell she had enough of these bullsh*t rethorics today. Go off sister! Proud to have a woman like you *actually* defending our rights.
Esther is a powerful woman. Well spoken and well informed
Love her
I heard a transsexual said once that they are more femenine and more woman than women selv. Then I had a strange thought.....it might posibly be the most macho way of thinking to sustain that men have to become transwomen to show women even how to be a woman. If a woman is so worthless that men should teach her how to be a woman, what is the new role of women in the gender ideology..................to be nothing?
She is a queen
@Elementalhandle0000 How were her rebuttals ill informed? Why should she have any time for the people actively hurting women's sport? All leftists ever say is "we don't platform what we find intolerant" but when the shoes on the other foot its not OK. Francesca and James made much much weaker arguments but you align with them so you don't call them out. This is the exact problem
Francesca is delusional ! Thank you Esther and Tommy for standing up for all women. ❤
Once somebody fells that is born in a different body, needs mental attention
Esther is intelligent, charming and beautiful.
Francesca's whataboutisms are so cringe. She cannot answer a straight question without them because even she knows how nonsensical this is.
Right, and she does not have the capability to academically sound great arguments without personal language such as, "shut up!"
I’m a gay man and I support the right of the soccer player to not wear a rainbow jersey or whatever. To compel him to do so might actually cause him to be MORE against homosexuality.
I don't think people are against homosexuality I don't think that's what people are upset about I think what they're upset about is the other rest of the alphabet TQ plus plus plus plus, I think the gays have accomplished amazing accomplishments, it was decades worth of hard work blood sweat tears and heartache, just to have some t Q plus plus plus plus plus people pull the rug right out from under all that hard work it's absolutely important and I think that we honestly need to separate ourselves from all of this, I know a lot of trans women and they want nothing to do with this and that is like 6 6 and I know they don't want anything to do with those people they think they're freaking crazy, so we need to start speaking up for what is right and I think it's leave the f****** kids alone leave women sports alone and stay out of our f****** washrooms, people think oh transgender okay so we're going to have women like Blair and Jenner when that's not the case there's some really gross disgusting men coming into women's washrooms and making people feel uncomfortable
I'm not against homosexuality at all, Im just not into rainbow jerseys
I'm not against gays or their lifestyles and I'm not against them wanting to play sports ...but I'm against them being born a male and waking up one day claiming they are women and jumping into the women's sports like they have been a women the whole time ...
If Trans men or women want to play whatever sports then they need to get together and make up their own teams ......and go play each other
As a conservative straight white man I support you to be gay and happy.
@@davew8694thanks for your contribution
As a woman I’m glad Esther & Tomi are on that panel!! 👏🏼 Beautiful, intelligent, and they know how to behave not like the other two wanna be comedians!
Exactly! Gorgeous, dynamic ladies who aren’t scared to be real ❤
Esther is my absolute favorite! If I see her on the panel, I immediately click the video!
Yes! They were tag teaming Francesca and I'm totally here for it! 😂 gorgeous, intelligent and powerful women! ❤
I'd love to see their faces when Trump won!!
Omg Francesca is so obnoxious and arrogant!!! James frustrates me to no end. Go Esther and Tomi, two beautiful, intelligent women with common sense!
It's the point !! They are both professional provocateurs after all.
Pretty amazing that someone think Tomi Lahren is an intelligent person!!!!
Still a ten
@@optiphy9529💯
Francesca>Esther>Tomi
I feel sorry for James Barr and Francesca. It is so sad to listen to them. Rude, pointless, delusional, agressive.
Yeah, they are a bunch of idiots
I think they’re hilarious and correct. Time will show them on the right side of history. It’s not the 1700’s anymore.
They are entrenched in their own stubborness and are deaf to the voice of their common sense. They have confused their common sense with their mainstream media indoctrination and therefore are always in Conflict with Themselves!! 😔
@@Michael-kf7gm Yup. Women's sport is lame. Let get women out of sport altogether.
Aggressive? That black lady was unhinged asf
Francesca in this debate said she was against bullying, yet call all women "whiners" for not wanting men to invade their spaces. While Esther was destroying her arguments, she could not bounce back with a response, calling her "lady." She definitely does not speak for women and should never try to pretend to be a righteous activist when all she does is argue so immaturely, it's embarrassing.
Thank you for such a detailed analysis. When emotions are high, what u really are will show..that's why she called the black lady a 'lady' and other women 'whiners'
I think she is in deep need of neurological test.
She’s hot though.
Americans love Piers Morgan! 🇺🇸❤️
As a Black Man I totally agree with conservatives on this issue! No man should compete against women.
What is a woman
@@fllf3078a cook and a cleaner
@@fllf3078 a person who’s capable of giving birth to children! The lady who raised you.
@@akingn8858 damn homie is that how you look at your mother or daughter?
@@jakjones8680 don't have a daughter and idk my mother i grew up in an orphanage
Francesca got destroyed. She should be ashamed of herself.
THE BLACK GIRL ROCKS !! WELL DONE LOVE
SHE IS PERFECTLY RIGHT !!!!
The blond was nailing it also.
@@fuzzycounsellor9147I agree they both were
She is a woman not a girl.
The colour of her skin should NOT make her special
Trans women are not women. that would be like women is all Trans women. they are two different things.
Francesca Fiorentini is delusional.
James is more repulsive shameful. Too much platform for him by Piers
Still don't know if she's a trans...?
she is getting paid
She is a low grade agitator, just like James
@@milagrosroman2882Paid to be delusional?!
Poor Ester having to deal with these idiots, Francesca and James. It’s unbelievable. What has happened to people’s intelligence! It’s rather frightening.
Basically, what this is all about is certain men who can't cut it in male sports so they call themselves female invade women's sports, and that's something that I disagree with, if they want to get involved in sports, then they should develop their own division and stop gate crashing others and if they want to call me transphobic for saying so, that's their problem
Brainwashing is no respecter of intellect.
You're equating intelligence with point of view. They can have a different point of view, that doesn't make them less intelligent. To say so is disrespectful
@@bereal6590are you a robot? You sound like one..
don't feel bad because she destoryed BOTH 😂
Why don't trans have their own leagues and compete against trans!!!!!
Exactly!!!!
Why? Because they would receive 0 interest and acknowledgement.After all isn’t it really all about LOOK AT ME!!!
Hahah, again they need to be separated to two groups (trans-men competitions) and (trans-women competitions) 😂😂.
Back to origin baby 🔙
Because nobody would watch them
Are there even enough trans athletes to form a league?
Thank you Piers! Stand your ground! Don't sell out! You are the majority!
Francesca and James are insufferable. Please, please stop having James on.
Mr. Morgan has Mr. Burr on because he is a NCP cosplaying a lberal imbecile
I actually wouldn't want them to stop bringing James on because it's so hilarious watching him embarrass himself every week. Imarn Ayton on the other hand, I hope they never bring her back on the show.
Yea u need a good villian to make a good movie. Otherwise it's boring
All liberals are
@@gantz0949 so just get an wcho chamber? he adds contrast, duhh.
Francesca should come with a safety warning. She almost gave me brain rot 🤯
no one would want to come close enough to put a warning on this women
@@aterlycan maybe with a very long hot iron
@@kokocaptainqc taped to a midevil polearm
James and Francesca have successfully made me lose brain cells during this panel discussion.
They haven't helped the gay or trans community one bit. Coming across as an emotionally unstable panel commentator isn't a great look
To be fair, I’m guessing many of those brain cells were already lost.
@@Michael-kf7gm hahaha you must be James Lover please report to the nearest rainbow
@@TeamAA1715 No, I’m a Francesca lover. She’s my absolute favorite political commentator. You’re welcome to make fun of LGBT people if that reinforces your false sense of superiority.
@@TeamAA1715 At the end of the day, I’m a white male, so I’ll be just fine, regardless of how this issue pans out.
“I’m embarrassed to be a woman” YESSSSS YOU SHOULD BE!
Esther is my new hero, shes incredible and absolutely won this debate with pure facts
Always a relief to hear common sense in a world of insanity. Thank you Esther!!!
What’s her last name?
Thank God real women are awaking up..
The INTELLIGENT ones have been awake for ages .. We just don't get heard..
You can identify all you want. But you aren’t a woman. Period. You want to compete. Have a trans Olympic
It would just be all guys
Nobody would watch that lol
It would only be men identifying as women ....not viceversa
Nah. Make em compete against other men. Period.
it's really funny how they will never be a woman no matter how many people tell them they're a woman and i think that sours their heart with unhappiness
Did Piers just say that the James Barr person was a "comedian"?? Seriously?? 🤦
I have a 7 year old and 3 year old and i ABSOLUTELY would not be proud if my son won any medals competing against girls
100%
You mean, not even cooking competition ?
Exactly! I have THREE sons and if they ever came to me and say something like “I beat Sally in a swimming race!” I would be like “so what? Go race Billy and see how you do. If you beat him, than that’s awesome!”
@@joeyh3167Are you implying that you think women are better cooks? Because like all the top chefs are men.
My son or daughter will never become trans living under me but when they get older and move out and then they decide to become trans then they will no longer be my son or daughter
You can.
Paint stripes on a COW...
.It will NEVERRRR be a ZEBRA
🙌 it will NEVER be a zebra! Well said.
And if it identifies as a zebra we are supposed to bobblehead our way through that situation, no thank you! You're a cow with zebra stripes according to literally everyone 🙄 idk what our world is coming to but we all gotta stay strong and get thru this weird phase!
Even if you paint it on a horse: it could pass, yet still is a horse and not a zebra.
a zebra is a zebra whether real or fake......😅😅😅😅😅 disect that!😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
I think you mean " you can paint a donkey stripes, it still wont be a zebra."
Sticking a feather in your butt does not make you a chicken.
😅
Hahahahahahahahaha
......stealing this 🤣🤣🤣
😂
Oh no, u giving them idea's 😭
These four guests are all very articulate. 👍🏻
A woman who doesnt believe that REAL women are losing out makes her sound pathetic
A fake woman who doesn’t
Does she identify as a w*m*n?
They're the ones who are toxic in relationships who want to be the head of the house and go against there man. These topics are a chance for them to try to validate there delusional mind set a woman can do anything- Anything or better- a man can do..
Francesca is a man not a woman, please don't insult women by calling her a woman.
Would never date a women who souly believes this is a actual thing
Separate men, women, & LGBT sports. Sports for men, sports for women, sports for LGBT.
Just the T
Bravo
I totally agree with that, also add "dopers" and all natural catorgories ....how fast would steriods actually be on all sides????
Transwomen can play with men.
@@LaraBuluz Transwomen=men
Francesca says that us women make her feel embarassed to be a woman. But her behavior on this panel makes me feel embarassed to be an American. She was absolutely arrogant and unprofessional, not to mention downright ignorant. The only thing she was good at was beating around the bush and evading giving a straight answer.
It’s ok, we all know that’s not an American thing, it’s an arrogance thing
She doesn't have an athletic bone in her body! What does she care!
She is the embarrassment to woman!
I was shocked when my bf told me James is a comedian, he literally finds everything offense how can he make jokes about anything?
I don't know who Francesca is but I know I don't want to ever see her again. She's awful
"Creature from the Black Lagoon"
🤣🤣🤣
A former Young Turk 😂
She's not a very smart person!
Obnoxious!!
I love how Francesca tells them not to speak for women, then goes on speaking for women. Then call women who disagree with her embarrassing. There is nothing logical coming out of her mouth. Why can't they just have a conversation and debate without going after piers physical appearance?
Piers Morgan, Esther Krakue and Tomi Lahren THANK YOU !
👍
This was soo entertaining! One of the best!!
Dear Pierce, you should stop inviting James Barr. He's useless and only makes fun of your appearance.
Him squirming is hilarious 😂
James a comedian...as funny as a case of the clap and hemorrhoids.
They have to tick a box to stay off Ofcom's radar 🤷♂️
I’m sure he’s hired specifically to ridicule him.
I think hes been used as a buttplug too many times. Just look at his resting face
“Don’t speak for me”
**tries to speak for women and talk down on the majority of women who are against this**
She's delusional 🤡
I was gonna say! the irony -_-
Delulu
She irritated me the moment she opened her mouth.
Put a sock in it!!
Adults don't compete against children. General physical differences matter in sport.
very well said
This is why mental health is important
Common sense - not so common. So, do you validate your anorexic daughter by telling her she is fat because she sees herself that way? No, you deal with the emotional and psychological problem to help bring her life. That is love. Wake up society.
Well said
If one hates his country and flag that much he or she should leave. There are plenty countries you can go to.
That's exactly what it is, it's weird liberals don't embrace anorexia/bullemia as an identity
Amen to that.
Good comparison 👌
These “trans” activists are completely nuts🤦♂️
Agreed but it shouldn’t be anything to do with left or right politics
trans activites and nuts is repetition
yeah and their nuts are probably in their thought 24/7
I "feel" like my "nuts" uhm, feel a little disrespected being associated with these "trans activists"
I love Ester, she speaks sense.
Francesa has the lowest form of wit. As soon as she can't answer the question, she gets sarcastic, rolls eyes, etc.. so annoying piers as a fellow Brit. dont have that mop head on again 🎉
Biological men, even with low testosterone:
naturally more muscle mass
Denser muscle
More fast-twitch muscle fibre (Explosiveness and agility)
Larger and stronger bones
Bigger heart muscle and higher lung capacity
Less body fat (women need more fat for maternal reasons)
Taller
Stronger
Faster
Then why did I get beat up by all women in my life if I am such a superior specimen
@@samlatooni Cos Ur trans?
@@samlatooni
Cause your mom and grandma were bigger?
@@samlatoonimost likely because you don't fit under reason nr. 6 on his list. 🍔
Yes, Messi would score 50 goals a game against the women w/o any treatment. Only 45 per game after full treatment.
The rule should be that transgenders either compete in a transgender division or in their biological gender division.
They don't want to - it's part of the kick they get out of their behaviour.
100 percent agreed
Same way there’s paraolympics, as it wouldn’t be fair for them to compete against able bodied people
Exactly, I don't know what's so hard about this
Well, the thing is there is normally a third category for all. But trans women, despite that, compete with women, and moreover, trans men also compete in the women’s category. So in one case it’s about biology and then, when it suits them, it’s about identity. If they were feeling so strong that “transwomen are women”, then why trans men still compete with women(rhetorical question).
The most remarkable part of this is that James Barr repeatedly appears on this show and has not grown as a person at all, yet appears increasingly more proud of that. Fascinating.
If he were a woman he’d be irrelevant, actually he is irrelevant anyway
Yes to this. I hadn’t thought about it in those terms, but you are exactly right. It’s the exact same thing from him every time we see him. His demeanor just reeks of misery and hatred, yet he is insistent that it’s everyone else on the panels who are filled with hate, unless of course they agree with him.
He has no depth whatsoever, and will refuse to answer questions that require any real conviction or courage. And apparently he is supposed to be a comedian. How is that even possible? Most comedians are fairly intelligent, quick witted and generally have a sense of humor.
This is mental! Honestly can't believe this is even an issue. Love Esther!
Im with Esther. The world's gone mental. No men anywhere near my space, not even one who THINKS he's a bloody woman. HE'S NOT!
😮Esther takes no prisoner's, the irony of James and Francesca telling a women to be quiet.
they are cis women with functional brains so they don't care
Funny how there's no trans men rushing to compete against real men. There is money, prestige and scholarships at stake.
They only want to compete agaisnt women💀 they stay trying to replace real women these people need to get help
Francesca is 100% right. Finally, someone to reason with these other crazies.
@@Michael-kf7gm seriously?!? She's a absolute idiot
@@shalbec3232Yes, and Feminism paved way for them. Viola! 🥰
What about Schuyler Bailar? Kye Allums? Chris Mosier? Ness Murby? Keelin Godsey? Mack Beggs? What about Patricio Manuel who could beat the living shit out of the vast majority of all the men bitching in the comments.
I mean I could go on but these are some of the best athletes in the world. These trans men are dominanting their male sports.
If this trans people are sooooo persistent. Why can't we have trans competition or league so all Trans can compete in them without interfering with women's sports?
Francesca says .. "please don't speak for me, please don't speak for all women" and then goes on to speak on behalf of all transgender athletes. How hypocritical
Hypocrisy and double standards are some of the best qualities these people have...
@@ferrumignis True, their worst is really disgusting.
She is totally wrong and I don't feel pathetic. You are the pathetic one for supporting this Trans bullsh....
No just transgender athletes but women too.
Exactly - why then does she defend Trans people using restrooms etc saying it is okay - is that not speaking on behalf of me and others who disagree
Agree with Esther 100%, all her takes are absolutely true
They haven't realized that people are absolutely DONE with this gender madness! DONE! We put up with it for a looong time, but you pushed and you pushed and you pushed and guess what? You've pushed too far! And now you've lost all the support.
No bitches
Exactly
Unfortunately as a trans person i do agree with this 😢
@trans_Steph this makes me really sad to hear. No joke. Average people had NOTHING against trans people. One of my best friends is trans and my cousin is trans. But neither of them run around screaming about it or demanding pronouns be used or trying to have books in kindergarten about it. They both just live their lives and really don't have any problems. So I honestly do feel bad for people like you that are having to suffer because of the extremist activists.
@trans_Steph btw I'm a gay guy and I also can't stand what all the hyper-sexual pride stuff has done. Can't we just go back to the mindset of the whole "I won't bother you if you don't bother me"? There was literally a time where gay and trans people just wanted to go UNNOTICED believe it or not lolz! We wanted to live completely normal, boring lives. But then the liberal woke people got involved and the academics and media jumped on board...and now here we are in clown world.
Getting equal rights and freedom for trans people should not be at the expense of rights of women, which they struggled, fight and earned after many years of oppression. And don’t call yourself a feminist if you think its okay to let transwomen compete against women. Canadian weightlifting the transwomen won the first position but the second place lifted 300 pound less , you think thats fair