Agreed. It's mind boggling how dynamically modern movies are mixed, even for home disc releases. It's always been a pet peeve of mine, having to lunge for the remote when the bombastic score comes on or an action scene. It can be really uncomfortable to watch movies with others this way; I can sense their discomfort! It's hard to understand why movie studios neglect the "average Joe" and continue to push these ultra-dynamic mixes on the home market. Why not provide a reasonably compressed stereo mix as an OPTION on all discs? La La Land is one of the few modern releases to get it right, offering "English 2.0 Dolby Digital Audio Optimized for Late-Night Listening."
Brilliant! Yes, an option with a more compressed mix, instead of a "This is what it is" mix. I have been working hard on ways to get a dynamic-sounding mix without being too dynamic. Thanks for the comment.
Thank you for this video. I'm actually researching this problem a bit after watching "Dune" (so IMAX) recently. Because of the whole pandemic situation, I haven't been in cinemas in ages (so maybe the perception has changed?) and after seeing Villeneuve's masterpiece the only problem I had was the... loudness. And I'm a Gen Z, watched plenty of films and started noticing that they just get too ridiculous when it comes to sound (especially superhero genre), but I was still surprised how loud the whole film was (I wanted to decrease the volume by 10% or so xD ). Dialogue was just a tad too loud but everything else, namely soundtrack, special effects' sounds etc. were just some aural nightmare, so perhaps that's what was mixed just too dynamically... I started reading some thread on Reddit explaining that whoever complains may just have sensitive ears, but it was just a weak argument. The surge of people mentioning this problem is no coincidence, I think.
Yes, the dialogue would be at a good level, but everything else is just too loud, especially the transient sound FX. They seem to want to go big the BIG sound experience, but often it is just too dynamic. But, once I go see a movie at IMAX or similar, for the big experience, I wonder how my perception will be affected as well. Cheers!
Nice to see you again :-) I lost you after your great videos about monitor ring outs (your approach was simple and clear = I learned a lot)... you have a new follower on sounds on movies - stay tuned and thanks a lot
Movies in theatre should be played at an spl of 85 dB the level at which mixers weigh their dialog level which resides at 60 to 64 dB spl which would show rms at around 33 dbfs roughly..nice explanation
Agreed. It's mind boggling how dynamically modern movies are mixed, even for home disc releases. It's always been a pet peeve of mine, having to lunge for the remote when the bombastic score comes on or an action scene. It can be really uncomfortable to watch movies with others this way; I can sense their discomfort! It's hard to understand why movie studios neglect the "average Joe" and continue to push these ultra-dynamic mixes on the home market. Why not provide a reasonably compressed stereo mix as an OPTION on all discs? La La Land is one of the few modern releases to get it right, offering "English 2.0 Dolby Digital Audio Optimized for Late-Night Listening."
Brilliant! Yes, an option with a more compressed mix, instead of a "This is what it is" mix. I have been working hard on ways to get a dynamic-sounding mix without being too dynamic. Thanks for the comment.
Thank you for this video. I'm actually researching this problem a bit after watching "Dune" (so IMAX) recently. Because of the whole pandemic situation, I haven't been in cinemas in ages (so maybe the perception has changed?) and after seeing Villeneuve's masterpiece the only problem I had was the... loudness. And I'm a Gen Z, watched plenty of films and started noticing that they just get too ridiculous when it comes to sound (especially superhero genre), but I was still surprised how loud the whole film was (I wanted to decrease the volume by 10% or so xD ). Dialogue was just a tad too loud but everything else, namely soundtrack, special effects' sounds etc. were just some aural nightmare, so perhaps that's what was mixed just too dynamically... I started reading some thread on Reddit explaining that whoever complains may just have sensitive ears, but it was just a weak argument. The surge of people mentioning this problem is no coincidence, I think.
Yes, the dialogue would be at a good level, but everything else is just too loud, especially the transient sound FX. They seem to want to go big the BIG sound experience, but often it is just too dynamic. But, once I go see a movie at IMAX or similar, for the big experience, I wonder how my perception will be affected as well. Cheers!
Nice to see you again :-) I lost you after your great videos about monitor ring outs (your approach was simple and clear = I learned a lot)... you have a new follower on sounds on movies - stay tuned and thanks a lot
Awesome! Thanks for the comment!
Glad to see your videos again.
Cool, thank you!
Movies in theatre should be played at an spl of 85 dB the level at which mixers weigh their dialog level which resides at 60 to 64 dB spl which would show rms at around 33 dbfs roughly..nice explanation
In short, keep it out of the red on the meters.