Heall no. It's not that small to be a chapter of PW. Plus PO should be more established as it's own game and of the main reason for that not even the story but just the gameplay wise
@@AdjudicusAnd Peace walker is a better game with better story and better gameplay and better characters and more fun. Portable Ops was a side story prototype.
@@phantombigboss8429 lmao no it's not, it turned big boss into a bumbling fool, had a really bad story that didn't fit with the series at all. Portable Ops was much closer to the mainline in terms of style and story
@@AdjudicusI believe you're the bumbling fool that failed to understand Big Boss's character. you probably never played any of the Mgs games I bet Poop is your first game that is sad. 😂
As for what happened to Gene money.... Lets remember that MSF was not completely without equipment at the start. They had weapons and helicopters. Also they still had money. Just because Zadornov gave them better hideout doesnt mean they were without equipment and resources
Plus you know he somehow transforms that tiny rundown offshore plant into a massive military nation in a few months with somehow no money at all. In V you have to spend a lot of gmp to expand mother base, but in PW other struts just spout out suddenly with no money loss. Maybe that's what the army's heaven money is going towards.
And Kaz does mention the base needed some repairs and cleaning up to do too. And the base was pretty big too, like it is small compared how it ends up being at the endgame but it wasn't like a shed out in the ocean. So the costs of the reconstructions would be a lot too.
Fr, I bought and modded a new PSP just to play portable ops with good controls. And peace walker, but I play that on xbox (PPSSPP controls are okay but not great on phone, and I don't wanna carry a controller with me everywhere I go)
@@misterhoobomaster what about the whole kojima is not anymore with konami and the game itself isn't whar should 've been stuff? You know the whole principle of a dead saga. Cause metal gear iS ENDED with mgs4. Mgs5 should not even exists. Kojima is just a money maker AFTER mgs4
I want to like those games, but the stealth aspect still eludes me for some reason. When I'm not getting absolutely obliterated during even the first few missions, I enjoyed playing them.
I think a Halo MCC style of game would fit; a launcher that takes you to a menu, a list of games that can be updated over time with each remake getting added. It won’t matter how short some of the remakes are if the entire saga can be played within a single launcher. It would feel like a base game with larger titles getting supported with large expansions, not multiple small titles hodgepodged together.
No. MCC is literally a blueprint how not to do a collection of old games in every sense, as it's to this day still a broken pile of trash. We got lucky enough that they didn't try bundling any of Master Collection together more than just MG1 and MG2
What's going on with Portable Ops? In the last 12 months there's been major retrospectives from Christian Cryers, thevoicebox, Chole, Gaming Pastime, Keiv Reviews Things, and now Max Derrat!!! It's awesome to see the game getting such coverage; such an unfairly forgotten gem. Yeah, the controls on the PSP made it borderline unplayable, but playing it on an emulator now, it plays pretty much identical to MGS3: Subsistence, and it looks damn good too.
Maybe they could remake Peace Walker BUT add portable ops as flashback side missions (missions that you can get bonuses after playing them like snake tales)
I was expecting ghost babel. It's a pretty good game, except for that box maze. The game boy color was pretty limited though, so the prone button was the start button, something Ive never seen a game do before
@@mikemcmullen5006 ghost babel was probably one of the best games of the gameboy color, and a very good mgs game. It was my first mgs game, and made me fall in love with the series.
The team behind the Metal Gear Solid 1 remake could just expand upon on the original gameplay by adding more content and bigger areas to explore, almost like Resident Evil 4 remake, except while maintaining the feel of the original without changing the cutscenes like how Twin Snakes made it more bombastic.
I would say the Acid games are even less well remembered than Portable Ops. I don't need remakes of them, but I would like to see Konami port them to Steam. Also, regarding the PO plot, the "Ghost" twist was originally quite silly, but in the context of MGSV, where XOF was cleaning up after Snake during MGS3, it's more plausible that Skull Face captured him before the destruction of Grozny Grad.
I would love to play a remake of PO. The story could be tweaked a little, and expanded upon. I would add a hub in the middle of San Hieronimo, so that Snake and the other soldiers could actually feeroam the peninsula while completing main and side quests. I would add a creepy boss fight with Ursula in which the player should be forced to physically attack her to demage her, while she floats around, in a vertical arena, throwing stuff. I would put a countdown that forces the player to finish the story before the end of 1970, otherwise there is a cinematic game over(and after the game over, there would be a new game + with all the previous upgrades to speed up the new run). And then i would add a chapter covering the firsts official foxhound missions, where Snake saves Eva in Hanoi, and then splits from Cypher, escaping in south America. Playing as Foxhoud would allow to add an endless coop missions system similar to PO+.
Peace Walker is my favorite. It has always been. it's just so replayable for me Love the boss fights, your own metal gear customization, and that you could play as someone you capture
I liked it good enough but i coudnt finish it bc i didnt had friends to play with, nor wanted to grind the missions to unlock the fun stuff. I disliked so much that half the missions are filler to lock you out of progressing the development tree, let alone fighting the same tank 20 times. 20. Not even exagerating, maybe downplaying bc it could easily have been 25. I would have loved to see pw remade on Fox engine
@giordanogarduno9207 if you are playing nonleathal with Stealth you can take out the troops and folten, then when there are no troops left the driver sticks his head out and can be put to sleep with a sleep dart for a win with getting to keep the tank and the people without having a hard fight, also engineers who drive have high stats for R&D so it helps get the gear you need
I assumed Big Boss used the money to help fund the Patriots. My idea for an MPO remake was always to have a large open map that expands each existing map into a large sections of the peninsula. You'd eventually move to capturing bases to accommodate more troops, with a risk of enemy inspections afterwards exposing them and forcing you to head over and help defend the base from the enemy assault. And support troops actually appear on the map. Maybe you're about to infiltrate the hospital, so you head to a nearby ridge where your support unit is stationed to retrieve some supplies. And once you're down there, if they have a sniper among them, they can provide cover like Quiet in MGSV.
I remember at the time PO came out I didnt have the money for it, but I did when PO+ came out. I bought it thinking it was OP AND a new online multiplayer feature. Turns out it was ONLY an online multiplayer game, and I was none too impressed.
I wanna see a Peace Walker Remake that has a MGS5 style map, multiplayer, and the side op missions be realized, observed, and result in the open world simulation. bring the story w vo and mocap too
Fireman’s carry from TPP, would be an easy fix for dragging. You’d still have to carry them to a truck but it would be faster and you could still use one handed weapons.
I honestly want a game or series focusing on Gray Fox starting from the beginning...adoption of Naomi, the affair with Natasha/Gustava, the corruption during MG1/MG2, the genome expirements, MGS1.
I'd prefer they combine Portal Ops with Peace Walker since they're basically the same story and both a prelude to MGS5. (Plus neither is strong enough to be standalone stories.)
Ooooor just remake Metal Gear 1&2. They need it more then any other game. It let's player be Solid Snake again, something they've been wanting for decades, and brings those two games up to par with the rest. Metal Gear 1&2.
Why is Ghost Babel not on these lists if Portable Ops is as far as semi canonicity. Would Ghost Babel be a possibility of a remake? Truly the MGS game time forgot
Ghost Babel is trickier because it ignores even MG2 and also has Snake acting like it's the first time he's meeting Mei Ling. That game isn't even trying to be line with the main series.
@ko873 I get what you're trying to say given the easter egg in the game, but clearly that's not the case. Unless Raiden is ignorant enough to belive Alaska is tropical 😋
Yea I’ve been thinking they should do portable ops next, hopefully with real cutscenes (at least as an option)! I played a little of it and it’s pretty good. It’s confirmed canon by mgsv as it references the events of the game when ocelot says big boss got half of the legacy and ocelot got the second half.
2:20 Portable Ops is not canon, it was, keyword *was*. They still showed the Saga canon/timeline (Kojimas own timeline) on Konami's Metal Gear - Hotline which was TWO days ago as of this comments posting. Okamura, the star of the video was heavily involved in Portable Ops and yet it was not added there. I'm not saying Konami won't ever make Metal Gear Solid 7: Metal Gear and eventually add to or throw out Kojimas own timeline, but what I am saying is factually Portable Ops has not been canon for longer than it's ever been canon at this rate. Who knows, maybe one day they'll remake/reimagine it and it will be but it's not yet. It's frustrating to see a lack of research whenever POPS comes up and I say this as someone that has enjoyed their time with it and put 100's of hours into POPS and POPS+.
That doesn't really matter, since PO is directly referred to in Peace Walker, so regardless of whether it's noted anywhere it has to be canon. Unless you're arguing Peace Walker isn't canon either.
@@dissidentwolf5939 Ghost Babel is shown and mentioned all throughout MGS2. Is it canon? No. Metal Gear Solid Mobile/Metal Gear Solid Touch is shown in Ground Zeroes Dejavu and Jamais Vu. Is it canon? No. Is ACID canon because of being teased about in the intro or having characters unlockable in Portable Ops? No.
@@mobiusraptor7 1) Big Boss took a job working for the Colombian Government where he met and recruited Kaz who was working for the Rebels. Prior to meeting him he drifted aimlessly. This is literally in the game. 2) Snake and Miller built their scrappy organization with their own two hands. Miller made it more organized and they got rich/wealthy over the events of PW. They didn't start with a small loan of a billion dollars. That said, at the end of MGS3 Snake still has the real legacy which was hidden in his back pocket which he reveals while listening to Eva's tape (she got a fake of it and Ocelot mentions this after the credits) and this is not mentioned in Portable Ops ever. Off screen MGS4 implies Zero was given this and when Big Boss disagreed with him he wen't his own way. 3) "Finally we can leave that crap in San Hieronymo behind us and break into the mercenary buisness for real." is literally a fourth wall break to disregard that game. It doesn't matter outside of the meta humor but even then it simply implies Snake and Kaz had been elsewhere in the past which is impossible given the timeline like with Cambell, who outside POPS makes no mentions of ever being side by side with Big Boss. 4) FOXHOUND's formation is reffered to in text in MGS3's credits as being in 1971, FOX's formation is offscreen before 3, and even POPS doesn't technically show it either. The original ending cut from POPS did have him found it though, yet the final game shows him with a FOXHOUND patch on his beret a year before it existed. Then again this is the same game that's final ending has an image of Snake with two eyes unless thats meant to be David. Extra point: days ago in a live video demomstration advertising the Snake Eater remake the timeline showed every Kojima MGS title and not Portable Ops or Revengence even though said presenter worked on Portable Ops. It saddens me when people don't know the story or do any research. (Btw I liked POPS)
@@phantombigboss8429I dont remember nothing about MGSV except a fake big boss beta cuckold keeping his mouth still while being told what to do by Ocelot and Miller. You know nothing about a good Metal Gear game or writing that doesnt cater to your lolicon fetishes.
It was so cool that if MGSV detected that you had Portable Ops save data in the PSP, it would automatically give you Invisible by Duran Duran instead of forcing you to unlock it in Chapter 3
The canon issue is just childish fandom. Does it fundamentally contradict the main games? No? It fits then. These questions have come about only because some fans take themselves to be some sort of Kojima purists and feel that they "owe" him to acknowledge or reject certain games. One of the many problems with this is that nobody could acknowledge any MG game after Kojima passes away.
Portable Ops is Canon, I'm pretty sure Kojima made future metal gear games with Portable Ops story in mind and it heavily reference in the future games. That should make Portable Ops Canon but for some reason, Kojima says it isn't because he didn't make it? But he basically stolen a lot from it.
@@cookie.2118 Right! Besides this, it never quite made sense to me that Snake went from idealist rookie to leader of a rogue nation only because some slimy government dude was a pain in the ass throughout Peace Walker - after all, he still fights for America in the PW showdown. It makes so much more sense if he's betrayed by the White House first (MGS3), then by the FBI (PO), and finally by the CIA (PW). Pretty much the whole deep state tries to screw him over. That being the case, sure, bring on Outer Heaven.
@@Pablojunior2006 How? And please mention a substantive way in which contradict each other, not something along the lines of: this character gaves this small detail that doesn't match with this other tiny thing this other charavmcter said in this other game. I'm talking about a MG1-MG2 type of contradiction (before MGSV solved that, that is).
As someone who was related to the project, the MGS UE 4 Remake - Shadow Moses footage you used is a re-upload, the original footage was uploaded to iRam Gamer. th-cam.com/video/oWc2GNtBurY/w-d-xo.html
One thing I would add to these inconsistencies at 22:40 - 23:20, which is not exactly inconsistencies, but I genuinely dislike the Idea of Big Boss had been prophesied, that his sons will save the world. I could rant about it for long, but I try keep it short. It takes away the impact of Solid Snake's struggle with Genes, that he overcomes during the Shadow Moses. This plot point alone, is the ultimate reason of why I'm not considering Portable Ops being canon. If this game is going to be remade to be a 100% canon, remove this prophecy sh!t out of it. Oh, and don't revive Sokolov... Sorry for my imperfect English, since it's not my native language.
Youre nuts if you think Portable Ops or even Peace Walker are getting remakes on the scale of MGS3. Thatd be like if Capcom decided to do a from the ground up remake of Resident Evil Revelations instead of Resident Evil 4. The whole point of this big ambitious remakea is to make bank on recognizable classics. Best you can hope for is an enhanced emulation in a Master Collection Vol 2
portable ops and portable ops plus were great games that were sadly over-shadowed by Peace Walker. I didn't really like Peace Walker though because it was closer to MGS4 gameplay wise than MGS2/MGS3.
On the topic of a 'Game Everyone Forgot Exists', would you ever consider looking at the ending speech in 'Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs' (2013) in relation to 'most profound' moments in videogames?
That makes no sense... Why would they remake one of the lowest selling metal gears that isn't made by kojima or even cannon Great video but if you genuinely think they'd even consider remaking this game you're confused
Honestly, they did bring up MGO recently on a production episode. They could remake Portable Ops as the designated "Metal Gear Online Saga" game. It still will have the campaign and essentially just with a modern coat of paint or even make it a Peace Walker lite. But instead of slapping MGO on every new game, you could have PO be the online game.
10:54 i believe there's a middle ground to be found here, and that is how you'd rescue POWs in Ground Zeroes, by carrying them on your back while still being able to run and shoot with your handgun. It could also serve as a "bridge" mechanic between MGS Delta (picking up the bodies also on your back, but just to hide them) and a possible Peace Walker Remake (making the fulton feel like an earned natural evolution mechanic, bringing this trilogy full circle back to Phantom Pain)
If they keep the truck as the extraction method, then a different animation to carry should be used, like a fireman carry or an over the shoulder. Leaving one hand open for a pistol. Makes it faster. Keep the drag for other things but if you want to take them, then you do the alternate carry.
according to konami youtube mg1&2 would be remade. it’d be pretty interesting to see those games remade bc they’re very important to the timeline. id want them to do that over mgs1 remake honestly
@@anthonyfernandez82 that it would be on the list for a potential remake in the timeline. i think it makes the most sense to remake those games too more than mgs1 imo
If they remake another one, they will remake the one that gives them the least amount of work. For example: The graphics of MGS Delta are 99% based on the ones already available in the MGS3 Pachinko arcade machine. And the gameplay from MGS Delta borrows almost everything from MGSV Ground Zeroes/The Phantom Pain. As lazy and greedy as Konami is, don't expect too much novelty. The only games that potentially will be remade after this one are either MGS1 Twin Snakes (because the gameplay here is more advanced than the PS1 version and was already remade by a team not involving Kojima) or MGS2 Substance. Forget about MGS4 who's graphics are too close to those on next gen consoles. And definitely forget about any other 2D Metal Gear game being remade. Konami is looking for a fast cash grab. They are a company thinking on short term investment and gain, they are not an auteur like Kojima who has a vision on the long term.
Continued: As a matter of fact, just look at the chart at 2:43, it speaks for itself. If I was a CEO, project manager or account manager at Konami for a MGS remake game, I would look at this chart and immediately know which game I would want to remake next.
A Max Derrat MGS video is just what the doctor ordered to fight an annoying bout of covid. And it’s about the underrated Portable Ops? You’re a gem of a man, Max.
I'll always defend Portable Ops 100%. People, fans and hard core fans really missed the point of how important this game is to the lore. This game was the missing link between MGS3 and MGS4. EDIT: I would like say that you're wrong by saying that Portable Ops isn't necessary to experience MGS. It clearly is and here is 3 main simple ones: 1) It was how FoxHound was created 2) It ends the Philosophers 3) It starts The Patriots.
@@phantombigboss8429 I provided my point of view with reasoning and facts about the game. You on the other hand, are regurgitating the same copy paste comment when someone have nothing to add to the conversation.
Always liked the simplistic ink-line comic style drawings that comprised Portable's cutscenes. Even made me try and get into concept art back in the day. Would be interesting to see what they could do with it in the modern day, that's for sure.
While I wouldn't mind a Portable Ops remake, to me there's only one answer to what games need a remake the most: the two OG Metal Gear games. The events there are so pivotal to everything that's been happening in the series. I mean that's the games where Solid Snake actually fought Big Boss. IMO there is no higher rank match up in the entire series yet we are stuck with that dated encounter.There's a guy here on TH-cam who's remaking the first game as an anime and he really manages quite well to a tense athmosphere worthy of the events. If you watch that and then watch what it actually refers to in the game, you cannot help but wish you got a remake from the ground up.
I downloaded portable ops on an emulator and the controls were so dogshit that it was unplayable. also there were some plot-holes about this game, so it better to treat it as non-canon.
• Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops • Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker • Metal Gear Solid • Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty • Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots • Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - Director's Cut (Kojima involved) • "Metal Gear" or "Metal Gear Solid 0: Outer Heaven" (Kojima Involved) I don't think most of this is necessary really.
Willing to bet portable ops and peace walker will be extra games modes that will be unlocked once you beat the new mgs3 remake or will be a dlc down the line. It makes perfect sense to add the 2 least recognized and played games a part of the game most mgs fans would agree is the best in the series. As much as I love mgs3, unless it adds new parts it isn’t enough content to be released as a new game in today’s standards. Mgs 5 took an average of 50 + hours to beat for most people and the original mgs3 can easily be completed under 3 hours.
The one thing Konami needs to realize is that PlayStation is a sinking ship right now. They have openly revealed their hand into ruining gaming in 2018, probably started a while before that, and have yet to course-correct. Konami really need to stop making their games for PlayStation first and then produce some crappy ports on other platforms. They should instead make the game optimized for literally any other system, preferably PC first, and THEN make a crappy half-a$$ed and censored PlayStation port of it. Sony doesn't deserves any better than this at this point.
@@Slavic_Snake While I agree console exclusivity isn't always the best move, I disagree it is automatically a sinking ship. If you look at PlayStation exclusivity, then yeah it's bad. They will censor the hell out of your product and make you pretend you enjoyed it. An Xbox or Nintendo exclusive wouldn't be anywhere near as bad. At least at this point in time, both of these companies show signs of getting worse recently. A PC exclusive would be better. Any publisher you strike a deal with doesn't control the gates of the whole PC ecosystem. Depending of your contract, a publisher damaging your product could be abandoned and the game released without them, at least in theory. Can't go around a console manufacturer in this way. But I disagree that releasing a game on EVERY platform is automatically better. In 99% of the modern days examples we could look at, the multi-platform game had only one version, censored enough to meet PlayStation standards, released as-is on every platform. PlayStation censorship ruined the game for everyone on every console. I mean yeah, the developer is at fault for bowing down to them, and not giving them an inferior version that met their standards of low quality. But PlayStation is still the main cause. So in other words, PlayStation exclusives and games available on all platform all with the exact same content are tied for last place. Xbox and Nintendo exclusives rank higher, and may occasionally reach as high as PC exclusives and games properly adapted for each system. PlayStation IS the weakest link here.
I played MGS Portable Ops, and while I loved back in the day I do feel that what the DEVS behind MGS3Delta needs to do is to shape their own path moving forward to some extend. MGS Delta will be the stepping stone and I think it would be the perfect moment to then remake entirely MG1 from the MSX and later MG2. Or maybe both like a whole package (Something like MGSV GZ + Phatom Pain). Because that way they will be challenged with creating a new game from scratch and bring new ideas to the franchise.
the MGS series seems to split into two quadrologies. The first Quadrology is all about Big Boss. MGS3: SNAKE EATER MGS: PORTABLE OPS MGS: PEACE WALKER MGSV: GZ / TPP and the second is about Solid Snake MG1 / MG2: SOLID SNAKE METAL GEAR SOLID MGS2: SONS OF LIBERTY MGS4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS Edit: Technically Raiden has his own Duology because he's in most of MGS2 and all of MGRR
22:20 Max, I really respect you and your previous work, and how you deep dive into the stories of various media, especially Kojima games (where lines of dialogue can have double meanings in both a narrative and meta sense). That’s why I think it’s kinda bizarre that you take the “leave all that crap behind” line at complete face value. Like, Kojima wrote that line at the very start of a game that would go on to completely disregard the events of “all that crap in San Heironymo.” (as Ravi Singh showed in his editorial on the subject, “Leaving All That Crap in San Heironymo Behind”) While it’s true that, circa MGS4, Kojima initially intended MPO to be canon (hence why it’s listed among other canon games in that exposition cutscene with Naomi you showed), it’s become pretty obvious since PW that he’s been trying to “leave all that crap in San Heironymo behind.” And since MGS4 only references MPO in a few cutscene stills, that made it an easy game to disregard. It’s not that much different from how the weapon description for the Five-SeveN references the non-canon Ghost Babel. When asked if MPO is still canon, Kojima initially said that the main story is canon, but some of the details aren’t. However, he immediately backtracked, and said, rather than saying if it’s canon or not, he instead emphasized that, inside him, he divides “A Hideo Kojima Games” from games he only produced. Having said all of that, the Master Book included in the Master Collection (released after Konami kicked Kojima out of his own creation) does include the events of MPO in the timeline, and explicitly says that the game’s events connects to the series canon. So MPO fans can find solace in the fact that Metal Gear’s corporate IP overlords have decreed that they regard the game as canon. I just wish more people tried to understand Kojima’s actual POV.
Great video. The remake looks amazing from what time now it's going to be fully faithful nothing's gonna be changed about the story. Which is good This is largely a graphics upgrade and the environment upgrade. I have played this game countless times. On the PS2- PS3 and Nintendo 3DS. Portable Ops needs a control upgrade. Everything else about the game works fine. I've only ever played this game once. Capturing soldiers is a pain your solution is great. I didn't even know over soldiers could catch them for you. Dragging them all myself. My PSP is broken. I remember enjoying the story.
Portable Ops is an excellent buffer title between MGS3 and Peace Walker, both in terms of gameplay and story. It’s a nice blend of both, where the leap from 3 to PW without PO can be jarring
Since Snake Eater is getting a more direct remake in Delta, maybe they can take a more liberal approach to remaking Portable Ops (and even Peace Walker). Hell, they could even combine the two and have Portable Ops' scenario be the prologue to the larger segment that is covered in Peace Walker. Kind of like the Tanker/Plant scenarios in MGS2, Virtuous Mission/Operation Snake Eater in MGS3, and Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain in MGSV. I also heard that the current producer of the Delta remake worked on Portable Ops so it would be great if he could push for it to be remade. The possibilities for future remakes are endless, and I hope they can take some liberties in bringing the "smaller screen" games like Portable Ops and Peace Walker to a new light. And of course, they NEED to remake Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake as those have the most important events between Solid Snake and Big Boss. I would fully support a campaign to get the games remade chronologically if that is Konami's plan.
I don't like Portable Ops or Peacewalker. After MGS3, the lack of an open interconnected world threw me off, made me feel less like a soldier sneaking around in the forest and more like some random guy who has to follow direct orders and read comic books with QTE sequences. Not to mention just how boring Peacewalker's dialog is and the lack of a codec system, it's like a string of mini challenges and not a full game. Lore wise, they might aswell be VR missions, and I don't like that, I don't like the fast paced arcadey feel, I like objectives that take a long time to complete. MGS1 - 3 had a very high feeling of stealth and sneaking around, hiding in places, knocking out enemies and peacewalker and portable ops just doesn't have that.
As a MGS hardcore fan, my family only had enough money to buy me a Nintendo DS.. I missed the opportunity to play this masterpiece. PO is a small but crucial part of MGS history, I’d definitely accept it gracefully as the next remake. The only concern I have with these remakes is the voice cast. I, by default, expect to hear some of the original cast. As much as I love Hayter, I am worried he might not be able to sound as young as he is portrayed to be in the game. Regardless, he is the only option as I do not accept another Snake considering this was between Snake Eater and PW.
Exactly. I also want more alternate timeline Metal Gear Solid in general. Maybe a story written by Yoko Taro in his own version of the Metal Gear universe.
They should do the two original Msx games and just make one game called metal gear that covers both games, a two scenario game with outer heaven and then a time skip to Zanzibar land . Bring them to the modern era and bring kojima on to help out 👍kiss and make up
I really enjoyed PO a lot. It was a product of it's time compared to PW that was more refined and polished and had influence from MGS4. The online mode made the game well worth it (and PO+) and I think is a key element missing from players that play it today. Great video!
If Konami was smart and fully capable, they would remake both Portable Ops and Peace Walker and bundle them together with content from Portable Ops + to add value. That would be perfect. But realistically, they'll most likely skip to PW.
All I want is a remake of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. Those games are so important to everything and I think they have the potential to be amazing. I doubt it will ever happen or if it did it probably won't be done well since Kojima isn't on board. It would be difficult.
This game paved the way into the peacewalker and MGS V era with its gameplay mechanics. Also the story made a good connection from MGS 3 to Peacewalker. I remember I used to love to play it. You didnt mention the online Mode and MGSPOps+ was focusing a lot on multiplayer. I found it superb for a handheld game. It might have even give me more joy than PW.
Calling to the Night is one of my favourite songs from the franchise I hope they remake Portable Ops combined with Peace Walker, kind of what Ground Zeroes is to TPP
I never got the chance to play Portable Ops. I usually ignore it’s place it in the canon, but maybe I need to rip it in an emulator. I think fans would be confused by a retitled remake in this instance. Maybe make it Delta DLC?
I’ve very much considered PO to be canon - I know Kojima’s comments made it confusing but PW references some events that happened in PO. I just think he forgot about PO when he made that comment
i loved the PSP games and im bummed portable ops and acid havnt been ported at all. Really hoping they say fuck it and re release all the ones that been locked on consoles or emualators for decades now.
Never played portable ops, love Snake Eater but it's really rubbing me wrong how they made the boss look like a guy. She was always to some extent androgynous but she retained a lot of femininity that was vital to her character and seems to be missing on this iteration.
Let's be honest konami is doing the new remake because they are recycle the voices, the music, chatacters, plot. Etc. They will never spend money on a remake they have to do from zero. Not gonna happen. Sorry
2:45 Psh, no Snake's Revenge? I know it's not really a Metal Gear game, but that's just like Super Mario 2 isn't a real Mario game. I managed to get myself a copy of that and Twin Snakes between 15 & 10 years ago respectively, but I keep passing on VR Missions for some reason. And of course I have Portable Ops & Peacewalker and everything on PS1/2/Xbox, but nothing MGS4 and up. I should probably get on that. Oh and Resurgence is badass too.
Beat this game several times. Wish they carried over the spy unit to peacewalker and phantom pain as well. Just a new modern console release would be great.
If Portable Ops really is that small, there’s no reason it couldn’t be a “Chapter 1” to Peace Walker’s “Chapter 2” and put them in the same game.
nah
PO, PW, and GZ-V are really a trilogy
@@PalladinPokercontroversial but true
Heall no. It's not that small to be a chapter of PW. Plus PO should be more established as it's own game and of the main reason for that not even the story but just the gameplay wise
The reason it can't is because Portable Ops is good unlike Peace Walker
They need to remake the original Metal Gear 1 and 2
If they do so and bungle that with MGS1 that could serve as enough for a game.
I would love a Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 remake with Kiefer Sutherland as Big Boss and David Hayter as Solid Snake.
here's to hoping one day that MG + MG2 Solid Snake get that treatment.
Absolutely 110% agree with you. I just have zero faith that that will be what Konami chooses to do next.
msx with fox engine....it feels aweosome to dream
You're the first person on youtube to not only remember portable ops but also to treat it with such appreciation.
game plays like ass is what I remember and dogshit story.
That's just not true. There are plenty videos about this game.
@@KahosSaint Too bad most of them can't help but shit on MGS4, MGS peacewalker and MGS5 because their headcanon didn't come true.
No there’s also PythonSelkan, the only TH-cam channel praised by Hideo Kojima himself! They provided proof portable ops is canon.
"But that's not realistic!"
"...Have you played any Metal Gear game?"
Or... "Nanomachines, son!"
Portable ops is way more realistic than peace walker
@@AdjudicusAnd Peace walker is a better game with better story and better gameplay and better characters and more fun. Portable Ops was a side story prototype.
@@phantombigboss8429 lmao no it's not, it turned big boss into a bumbling fool, had a really bad story that didn't fit with the series at all. Portable Ops was much closer to the mainline in terms of style and story
@@AdjudicusI believe you're the bumbling fool that failed to understand Big Boss's character. you probably never played any of the Mgs games I bet Poop is your first game that is sad. 😂
As for what happened to Gene money.... Lets remember that MSF was not completely without equipment at the start. They had weapons and helicopters. Also they still had money. Just because Zadornov gave them better hideout doesnt mean they were without equipment and resources
Plus you know he somehow transforms that tiny rundown offshore plant into a massive military nation in a few months with somehow no money at all. In V you have to spend a lot of gmp to expand mother base, but in PW other struts just spout out suddenly with no money loss. Maybe that's what the army's heaven money is going towards.
It's also implied right at the end that the money went to fund Foxhound, so that would explain where most of the money went
My head canon was, that he added the money to Cipher/ Patriots and when he left, they of course kept the money.
And Kaz does mention the base needed some repairs and cleaning up to do too. And the base was pretty big too, like it is small compared how it ends up being at the endgame but it wasn't like a shed out in the ocean. So the costs of the reconstructions would be a lot too.
I never forget. Literally install and setup the PSP emulator purely and solely for Portable Ops.
Fr, I bought and modded a new PSP just to play portable ops with good controls.
And peace walker, but I play that on xbox
(PPSSPP controls are okay but not great on phone, and I don't wanna carry a controller with me everywhere I go)
Thats a sad waste of time but okay. lmao
@@phantombigboss8429??? Installing emulators is now sad?
@@phantombigboss8429 your a real bastard, you know that?
@@phantombigboss8429 Installing an emulator and playing your favorite rom with high res is sad and waste of time?
Remember: it's Konami. Don't fall for it again or there can't be any more excuses. Wait for the ratings, don't pre order. Be smart
Preach.
but in order for raitings to exist, people must buy and play it
@@Slavic_SnakeAnd you don't have to be one of those people
People with extra$70 that needs to be spent on something right away*
Not to mention all the TH-cam channels that will get the game for free lol
MGSV: TPP also confirms in a cassete tape that Portable Ops is canon.
Ocelot talks about his big scene in Portable Ops with Big Boss.
More like an easter egg
@@noctsickversus9632 No it's not. It's literally a important lore detail.
@@misterhoobomaster what about the whole kojima is not anymore with konami and the game itself isn't whar should 've been stuff? You know the whole principle of a dead saga. Cause metal gear iS ENDED with mgs4.
Mgs5 should not even exists. Kojima is just a money maker AFTER mgs4
@@noctsickversus9632 What does that have to do with anything I just said?
@@noctsickversus9632that’s the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You Metal Gear fans love to make every excuse not to have Portable Ops as canon
Speaking of forgotten... Metal Gear Acid 1 and 2
I want to like those games, but the stealth aspect still eludes me for some reason. When I'm not getting absolutely obliterated during even the first few missions, I enjoyed playing them.
I think a Halo MCC style of game would fit; a launcher that takes you to a menu, a list of games that can be updated over time with each remake getting added. It won’t matter how short some of the remakes are if the entire saga can be played within a single launcher. It would feel like a base game with larger titles getting supported with large expansions, not multiple small titles hodgepodged together.
They could also add all variations of MGO, and possibly add a new one.
No. MCC is literally a blueprint how not to do a collection of old games in every sense, as it's to this day still a broken pile of trash. We got lucky enough that they didn't try bundling any of Master Collection together more than just MG1 and MG2
What's going on with Portable Ops? In the last 12 months there's been major retrospectives from Christian Cryers, thevoicebox, Chole, Gaming Pastime, Keiv Reviews Things, and now Max Derrat!!!
It's awesome to see the game getting such coverage; such an unfairly forgotten gem. Yeah, the controls on the PSP made it borderline unplayable, but playing it on an emulator now, it plays pretty much identical to MGS3: Subsistence, and it looks damn good too.
Maybe they could remake Peace Walker BUT add portable ops as flashback side missions (missions that you can get bonuses after playing them like snake tales)
Damn, I thought this was gonna be about Acid
Same lol
I was expecting ghost babel. It's a pretty good game, except for that box maze. The game boy color was pretty limited though, so the prone button was the start button, something Ive never seen a game do before
Me too
@@mikemcmullen5006Ghost Babel is so underrated
@@mikemcmullen5006 ghost babel was probably one of the best games of the gameboy color, and a very good mgs game. It was my first mgs game, and made me fall in love with the series.
The team behind the Metal Gear Solid 1 remake could just expand upon on the original gameplay by adding more content and bigger areas to explore, almost like Resident Evil 4 remake, except while maintaining the feel of the original without changing the cutscenes like how Twin Snakes made it more bombastic.
I would say the Acid games are even less well remembered than Portable Ops. I don't need remakes of them, but I would like to see Konami port them to Steam. Also, regarding the PO plot, the "Ghost" twist was originally quite silly, but in the context of MGSV, where XOF was cleaning up after Snake during MGS3, it's more plausible that Skull Face captured him before the destruction of Grozny Grad.
I would love to play a remake of PO.
The story could be tweaked a little, and expanded upon.
I would add a hub in the middle of San Hieronimo, so that Snake and the other soldiers could actually feeroam the peninsula while completing main and side quests.
I would add a creepy boss fight with Ursula in which the player should be forced to physically attack her to demage her, while she floats around, in a vertical arena, throwing stuff.
I would put a countdown that forces the player to finish the story before the end of 1970, otherwise there is a cinematic game over(and after the game over, there would be a new game + with all the previous upgrades to speed up the new run). And then i would add a chapter covering the firsts official foxhound missions, where Snake saves Eva in Hanoi, and then splits from Cypher, escaping in south America. Playing as Foxhoud would allow to add an endless coop missions system similar to PO+.
A remake would be better than a shitty remaster of a bad game.
Anyone complaining about lack of realism in an MGS game needs to get off the internet.
Peace Walker is my favorite. It has always been. it's just so replayable for me
Love the boss fights, your own metal gear customization, and that you could play as someone you capture
I liked it good enough but i coudnt finish it bc i didnt had friends to play with, nor wanted to grind the missions to unlock the fun stuff. I disliked so much that half the missions are filler to lock you out of progressing the development tree, let alone fighting the same tank 20 times. 20. Not even exagerating, maybe downplaying bc it could easily have been 25. I would have loved to see pw remade on Fox engine
@giordanogarduno9207 if you are playing nonleathal with Stealth you can take out the troops and folten, then when there are no troops left the driver sticks his head out and can be put to sleep with a sleep dart for a win with getting to keep the tank and the people without having a hard fight, also engineers who drive have high stats for R&D so it helps get the gear you need
@@giordanogarduno9207 Skill issue
I assumed Big Boss used the money to help fund the Patriots.
My idea for an MPO remake was always to have a large open map that expands each existing map into a large sections of the peninsula. You'd eventually move to capturing bases to accommodate more troops, with a risk of enemy inspections afterwards exposing them and forcing you to head over and help defend the base from the enemy assault. And support troops actually appear on the map. Maybe you're about to infiltrate the hospital, so you head to a nearby ridge where your support unit is stationed to retrieve some supplies. And once you're down there, if they have a sniper among them, they can provide cover like Quiet in MGSV.
This video needed to happen, now talk about PeaceWalker again for the
people in the back that claim they love MGS3 but never played Peacewalker.
Instead they played that awful game Poop.
I remember at the time PO came out I didnt have the money for it, but I did when PO+ came out. I bought it thinking it was OP AND a new online multiplayer feature. Turns out it was ONLY an online multiplayer game, and I was none too impressed.
I wanna see a Peace Walker Remake that has a MGS5 style map, multiplayer, and the side op missions be realized, observed, and result in the open world simulation. bring the story w vo and mocap too
Just combine Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, Phantom Pain into one epic remake.
They also need to make an MGS game focused on the war between Big boss and Zero that was mentioned from mgs4
thats what phantom pain should have been.
@@theengineer9910 Yep. Now with Kojima gone i don’t know who else could do that storyline.
Maybe a game about snake and raiden going after the patriots between 2 and 4 could be nice too
@@Pablojunior2006 ya that could explain why raiden has to go into hiding
@@theengineer9910the Real MGS 5😢
Fireman’s carry from TPP, would be an easy fix for dragging. You’d still have to carry them to a truck but it would be faster and you could still use one handed weapons.
Justice for Portable Ops! ❤
💯💯💯
Poop the dumpster fire of a game.
@@phantombigboss8429For real, I would rather play Survive.
@@phantombigboss8429 You are a sad person. I hope you find love, someday.
@@igodreamer7096 nothing sadder than liking Poop and eating it. lmao
I know they’ll never do it but I want them to bring back the og theme form portable ops, or at least try to do a new version with the current theme
I honestly want a game or series focusing on Gray Fox starting from the beginning...adoption of Naomi, the affair with Natasha/Gustava, the corruption during MG1/MG2, the genome expirements, MGS1.
I'd prefer they combine Portal Ops with Peace Walker since they're basically the same story and both a prelude to MGS5. (Plus neither is strong enough to be standalone stories.)
Like the tanker and plant missions of mgs2, or GZ and tpp in mgsv
No, what I mean is combine the stories entirely in a remake. (As well as Ground Zeroes, now that I think about it.)
Like make a single game where PO is chapter one and PW chapter two or smth?
No, combine the stories entirely. You can do the same with Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2.
At that point you should also combine Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain
Ooooor just remake Metal Gear 1&2. They need it more then any other game. It let's player be Solid Snake again, something they've been wanting for decades, and brings those two games up to par with the rest.
Metal Gear 1&2.
Why is Ghost Babel not on these lists if Portable Ops is as far as semi canonicity. Would Ghost Babel be a possibility of a remake?
Truly the MGS game time forgot
Ghost Babel is trickier because it ignores even MG2 and also has Snake acting like it's the first time he's meeting Mei Ling. That game isn't even trying to be line with the main series.
In game-story, Ghost Label is the "Shadow Moses VR" that Raiden did before being approved to do the mission of MGS2.
@@ko873mental gymnastics
Because its an alternative version of snake, it's like acid, neither of them are cannon and would confuse new fans that ∆ will bring in
@ko873 I get what you're trying to say given the easter egg in the game, but clearly that's not the case. Unless Raiden is ignorant enough to belive Alaska is tropical 😋
Yea I’ve been thinking they should do portable ops next, hopefully with real cutscenes (at least as an option)! I played a little of it and it’s pretty good. It’s confirmed canon by mgsv as it references the events of the game when ocelot says big boss got half of the legacy and ocelot got the second half.
2:20 Portable Ops is not canon, it was, keyword *was*. They still showed the Saga canon/timeline (Kojimas own timeline) on Konami's Metal Gear - Hotline which was TWO days ago as of this comments posting. Okamura, the star of the video was heavily involved in Portable Ops and yet it was not added there.
I'm not saying Konami won't ever make Metal Gear Solid 7: Metal Gear and eventually add to or throw out Kojimas own timeline, but what I am saying is factually Portable Ops has not been canon for longer than it's ever been canon at this rate.
Who knows, maybe one day they'll remake/reimagine it and it will be but it's not yet.
It's frustrating to see a lack of research whenever POPS comes up and I say this as someone that has enjoyed their time with it and put 100's of hours into POPS and POPS+.
That doesn't really matter, since PO is directly referred to in Peace Walker, so regardless of whether it's noted anywhere it has to be canon. Unless you're arguing Peace Walker isn't canon either.
@@dissidentwolf5939 Ghost Babel is shown and mentioned all throughout MGS2. Is it canon? No.
Metal Gear Solid Mobile/Metal Gear Solid Touch is shown in Ground Zeroes Dejavu and Jamais Vu. Is it canon? No. Is ACID canon because of being teased about in the intro or having characters unlockable in Portable Ops? No.
@@mobiusraptor7
1)
Big Boss took a job working for the Colombian Government where he met and recruited Kaz who was working for the Rebels. Prior to meeting him he drifted aimlessly. This is literally in the game.
2)
Snake and Miller built their scrappy organization with their own two hands. Miller made it more organized and they got rich/wealthy over the events of PW. They didn't start with a small loan of a billion dollars. That said, at the end of MGS3 Snake still has the real legacy which was hidden in his back pocket which he reveals while listening to Eva's tape (she got a fake of it and Ocelot mentions this after the credits) and this is not mentioned in Portable Ops ever. Off screen MGS4 implies Zero was given this and when Big Boss disagreed with him he wen't his own way.
3)
"Finally we can leave that crap in San Hieronymo behind us and break into the mercenary buisness for real." is literally a fourth wall break to disregard that game. It doesn't matter outside of the meta humor but even then it simply implies Snake and Kaz had been elsewhere in the past which is impossible given the timeline like with Cambell, who outside POPS makes no mentions of ever being side by side with Big Boss.
4)
FOXHOUND's formation is reffered to in text in MGS3's credits as being in 1971, FOX's formation is offscreen before 3, and even POPS doesn't technically show it either. The original ending cut from POPS did have him found it though, yet the final game shows him with a FOXHOUND patch on his beret a year before it existed. Then again this is the same game that's final ending has an image of Snake with two eyes unless thats meant to be David.
Extra point: days ago in a live video demomstration advertising the Snake Eater remake the timeline showed every Kojima MGS title and not Portable Ops or Revengence even though said presenter worked on Portable Ops. It saddens me when people don't know the story or do any research.
(Btw I liked POPS)
@@GuyOnAChairToo bad Kojima said it was canon. And he's the only opinion that matters
@@GuyOnAChairAlso, check the Master Collection timeline, MPO is there
Portable Ops has always been one of my favorite MGS games story wise! There's a lot of really powerful scenes that I remember to this day.
hmm I don't remember nothing important at all other than massive plot holes.
@@phantombigboss8429I dont remember nothing about MGSV except a fake big boss beta cuckold keeping his mouth still while being told what to do by Ocelot and Miller. You know nothing about a good Metal Gear game or writing that doesnt cater to your lolicon fetishes.
It was so cool that if MGSV detected that you had Portable Ops save data in the PSP, it would automatically give you Invisible by Duran Duran instead of forcing you to unlock it in Chapter 3
The problem with "is it canon or not" is that Konami just doesn't get to decide that without Kojima.
The canon issue is just childish fandom. Does it fundamentally contradict the main games? No? It fits then.
These questions have come about only because some fans take themselves to be some sort of Kojima purists and feel that they "owe" him to acknowledge or reject certain games. One of the many problems with this is that nobody could acknowledge any MG game after Kojima passes away.
Portable Ops is Canon, I'm pretty sure Kojima made future metal gear games with Portable Ops story in mind and it heavily reference in the future games. That should make Portable Ops Canon but for some reason, Kojima says it isn't because he didn't make it? But he basically stolen a lot from it.
@@sebastiansanhueza9601portable ops does contradict peace walker
@@cookie.2118 Right! Besides this, it never quite made sense to me that Snake went from idealist rookie to leader of a rogue nation only because some slimy government dude was a pain in the ass throughout Peace Walker - after all, he still fights for America in the PW showdown. It makes so much more sense if he's betrayed by the White House first (MGS3), then by the FBI (PO), and finally by the CIA (PW). Pretty much the whole deep state tries to screw him over. That being the case, sure, bring on Outer Heaven.
@@Pablojunior2006 How? And please mention a substantive way in which contradict each other, not something along the lines of: this character gaves this small detail that doesn't match with this other tiny thing this other charavmcter said in this other game. I'm talking about a MG1-MG2 type of contradiction (before MGSV solved that, that is).
As someone who was related to the project, the MGS UE 4 Remake - Shadow Moses footage you used is a re-upload, the original footage was uploaded to iRam Gamer.
th-cam.com/video/oWc2GNtBurY/w-d-xo.html
One thing I would add to these inconsistencies at 22:40 - 23:20, which is not exactly inconsistencies, but I genuinely dislike the Idea of Big Boss had been prophesied, that his sons will save the world. I could rant about it for long, but I try keep it short. It takes away the impact of Solid Snake's struggle with Genes, that he overcomes during the Shadow Moses. This plot point alone, is the ultimate reason of why I'm not considering Portable Ops being canon. If this game is going to be remade to be a 100% canon, remove this prophecy sh!t out of it. Oh, and don't revive Sokolov... Sorry for my imperfect English, since it's not my native language.
Youre nuts if you think Portable Ops or even Peace Walker are getting remakes on the scale of MGS3. Thatd be like if Capcom decided to do a from the ground up remake of Resident Evil Revelations instead of Resident Evil 4.
The whole point of this big ambitious remakea is to make bank on recognizable classics. Best you can hope for is an enhanced emulation in a Master Collection Vol 2
The fact that Konami decided to remake the 3rd chapter first, makes me think they want to remake the whole series chronologically
portable ops and portable ops plus were great games that were sadly over-shadowed by Peace Walker. I didn't really like Peace Walker though because it was closer to MGS4 gameplay wise than MGS2/MGS3.
On the topic of a 'Game Everyone Forgot Exists', would you ever consider looking at the ending speech in 'Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs' (2013) in relation to 'most profound' moments in videogames?
I think it will happen at some point. Just not sure when.
give us Vol 2 of the collection!
MGS4, portable ops, Acid and peace walker!
That makes no sense... Why would they remake one of the lowest selling metal gears that isn't made by kojima or even cannon
Great video but if you genuinely think they'd even consider remaking this game you're confused
Honestly, they did bring up MGO recently on a production episode. They could remake Portable Ops as the designated "Metal Gear Online Saga" game. It still will have the campaign and essentially just with a modern coat of paint or even make it a Peace Walker lite. But instead of slapping MGO on every new game, you could have PO be the online game.
10:54 i believe there's a middle ground to be found here, and that is how you'd rescue POWs in Ground Zeroes, by carrying them on your back while still being able to run and shoot with your handgun. It could also serve as a "bridge" mechanic between MGS Delta (picking up the bodies also on your back, but just to hide them) and a possible Peace Walker Remake (making the fulton feel like an earned natural evolution mechanic, bringing this trilogy full circle back to Phantom Pain)
If they keep the truck as the extraction method, then a different animation to carry should be used, like a fireman carry or an over the shoulder. Leaving one hand open for a pistol. Makes it faster. Keep the drag for other things but if you want to take them, then you do the alternate carry.
according to konami youtube mg1&2 would be remade. it’d be pretty interesting to see those games remade bc they’re very important to the timeline. id want them to do that over mgs1 remake honestly
What did they say about Metal Gear 1 and 2?
@@anthonyfernandez82 that it would be on the list for a potential remake in the timeline. i think it makes the most sense to remake those games too more than mgs1 imo
If they remake another one, they will remake the one that gives them the least amount of work.
For example: The graphics of MGS Delta are 99% based on the ones already available in the MGS3 Pachinko arcade machine. And the gameplay from MGS Delta borrows almost everything from MGSV Ground Zeroes/The Phantom Pain.
As lazy and greedy as Konami is, don't expect too much novelty. The only games that potentially will be remade after this one are either MGS1 Twin Snakes (because the gameplay here is more advanced than the PS1 version and was already remade by a team not involving Kojima) or MGS2 Substance. Forget about MGS4 who's graphics are too close to those on next gen consoles.
And definitely forget about any other 2D Metal Gear game being remade. Konami is looking for a fast cash grab. They are a company thinking on short term investment and gain, they are not an auteur like Kojima who has a vision on the long term.
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As a matter of fact, just look at the chart at 2:43, it speaks for itself. If I was a CEO, project manager or account manager at Konami for a MGS remake game, I would look at this chart and immediately know which game I would want to remake next.
A Max Derrat MGS video is just what the doctor ordered to fight an annoying bout of covid. And it’s about the underrated Portable Ops? You’re a gem of a man, Max.
Portable Ops' theme is wonderful. Calling to the night. Love it.
I'll always defend Portable Ops 100%. People, fans and hard core fans really missed the point of how important this game is to the lore. This game was the missing link between MGS3 and MGS4.
EDIT: I would like say that you're wrong by saying that Portable Ops isn't necessary to experience MGS. It clearly is and here is 3 main simple ones:
1) It was how FoxHound was created 2) It ends the Philosophers 3) It starts The Patriots.
What a strange hill to die on. lmao nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
@@phantombigboss8429 I provided my point of view with reasoning and facts about the game. You on the other hand, are regurgitating the same copy paste comment when someone have nothing to add to the conversation.
Always liked the simplistic ink-line comic style drawings that comprised Portable's cutscenes. Even made me try and get into concept art back in the day. Would be interesting to see what they could do with it in the modern day, that's for sure.
While I wouldn't mind a Portable Ops remake, to me there's only one answer to what games need a remake the most: the two OG Metal Gear games. The events there are so pivotal to everything that's been happening in the series. I mean that's the games where Solid Snake actually fought Big Boss. IMO there is no higher rank match up in the entire series yet we are stuck with that dated encounter.There's a guy here on TH-cam who's remaking the first game as an anime and he really manages quite well to a tense athmosphere worthy of the events. If you watch that and then watch what it actually refers to in the game, you cannot help but wish you got a remake from the ground up.
I think they should combine PW and PO into a single release and have them be completely remade in UE5.
Ew don't ruin PW.
They will skil portable ops for the same reason they skipped Code Veronica. They feel the fanbase is too niche to make it profitable.
I downloaded portable ops on an emulator and the controls were so dogshit that it was unplayable.
also there were some plot-holes about this game, so it better to treat it as non-canon.
Mgs 1 and 2 remake should be a package, remake both for one release, they are both small and would be good as a package
• Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
• Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker
• Metal Gear Solid
• Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
• Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots
• Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - Director's Cut (Kojima involved)
• "Metal Gear" or "Metal Gear Solid 0: Outer Heaven" (Kojima Involved)
I don't think most of this is necessary really.
Willing to bet portable ops and peace walker will be extra games modes that will be unlocked once you beat the new mgs3 remake or will be a dlc down the line. It makes perfect sense to add the 2 least recognized and played games a part of the game most mgs fans would agree is the best in the series. As much as I love mgs3, unless it adds new parts it isn’t enough content to be released as a new game in today’s standards. Mgs 5 took an average of 50 + hours to beat for most people and the original mgs3 can easily be completed under 3 hours.
The one thing Konami needs to realize is that PlayStation is a sinking ship right now.
They have openly revealed their hand into ruining gaming in 2018, probably started a while before that,
and have yet to course-correct.
Konami really need to stop making their games for PlayStation first and then produce some crappy ports on other platforms.
They should instead make the game optimized for literally any other system, preferably PC first, and THEN make a crappy half-a$$ed and censored PlayStation port of it. Sony doesn't deserves any better than this at this point.
console exclusivity is a sinking ship*
@@Slavic_Snake While I agree console exclusivity isn't always the best move, I disagree it is automatically a sinking ship.
If you look at PlayStation exclusivity, then yeah it's bad. They will censor the hell out of your product and make you pretend you enjoyed it.
An Xbox or Nintendo exclusive wouldn't be anywhere near as bad. At least at this point in time, both of these companies show signs of getting worse recently.
A PC exclusive would be better. Any publisher you strike a deal with doesn't control the gates of the whole PC ecosystem. Depending of your contract, a publisher damaging your product could be abandoned and the game released without them, at least in theory. Can't go around a console manufacturer in this way.
But I disagree that releasing a game on EVERY platform is automatically better. In 99% of the modern days examples we could look at, the multi-platform game had only one version, censored enough to meet PlayStation standards, released as-is on every platform. PlayStation censorship ruined the game for everyone on every console.
I mean yeah, the developer is at fault for bowing down to them, and not giving them an inferior version that met their standards of low quality. But PlayStation is still the main cause.
So in other words, PlayStation exclusives and games available on all platform all with the exact same content are tied for last place.
Xbox and Nintendo exclusives rank higher, and may occasionally reach as high as PC exclusives and games properly adapted for each system.
PlayStation IS the weakest link here.
Ashley Wood sketch cutscenes suck; change my mind.
love you
So this comment section is the new safe space for MPO fans and canon believers
I keep rewatching your mgs2 documentary’s, it’s really good
Ayyyy! Thanks mate!
Absolutely, I hope it appears in volume 2 of the collection similar to how Peace Walker was put on the ps3.
you must read subahibi it will change your life
At best I think they'll put it as a playable extra in a Peacewalker remake 🤷🏼♂️
PW doesn't need it.
Portable ops was my first MGS game and i feel much nostalgia for it, i still remember the first time i heard Calling to the Night for the first time.
I played MGS Portable Ops, and while I loved back in the day I do feel that what the DEVS behind MGS3Delta needs to do is to shape their own path moving forward to some extend. MGS Delta will be the stepping stone and I think it would be the perfect moment to then remake entirely MG1 from the MSX and later MG2. Or maybe both like a whole package (Something like MGSV GZ + Phatom Pain). Because that way they will be challenged with creating a new game from scratch and bring new ideas to the franchise.
the MGS series seems to split into two quadrologies.
The first Quadrology is all about Big Boss.
MGS3: SNAKE EATER
MGS: PORTABLE OPS
MGS: PEACE WALKER
MGSV: GZ / TPP
and the second is about Solid Snake
MG1 / MG2: SOLID SNAKE
METAL GEAR SOLID
MGS2: SONS OF LIBERTY
MGS4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS
Edit:
Technically Raiden has his own Duology because he's in most of MGS2 and all of MGRR
22:20 Max, I really respect you and your previous work, and how you deep dive into the stories of various media, especially Kojima games (where lines of dialogue can have double meanings in both a narrative and meta sense). That’s why I think it’s kinda bizarre that you take the “leave all that crap behind” line at complete face value. Like, Kojima wrote that line at the very start of a game that would go on to completely disregard the events of “all that crap in San Heironymo.” (as Ravi Singh showed in his editorial on the subject, “Leaving All That Crap in San Heironymo Behind”)
While it’s true that, circa MGS4, Kojima initially intended MPO to be canon (hence why it’s listed among other canon games in that exposition cutscene with Naomi you showed), it’s become pretty obvious since PW that he’s been trying to “leave all that crap in San Heironymo behind.” And since MGS4 only references MPO in a few cutscene stills, that made it an easy game to disregard. It’s not that much different from how the weapon description for the Five-SeveN references the non-canon Ghost Babel.
When asked if MPO is still canon, Kojima initially said that the main story is canon, but some of the details aren’t. However, he immediately backtracked, and said, rather than saying if it’s canon or not, he instead emphasized that, inside him, he divides “A Hideo Kojima Games” from games he only produced.
Having said all of that, the Master Book included in the Master Collection (released after Konami kicked Kojima out of his own creation) does include the events of MPO in the timeline, and explicitly says that the game’s events connects to the series canon. So MPO fans can find solace in the fact that Metal Gear’s corporate IP overlords have decreed that they regard the game as canon. I just wish more people tried to understand Kojima’s actual POV.
Great video.
The remake looks amazing from what time now it's going to be fully faithful nothing's gonna be changed about the story. Which is good
This is largely a graphics upgrade and the environment upgrade.
I have played this game countless times.
On the PS2- PS3 and Nintendo 3DS.
Portable Ops needs a control upgrade.
Everything else about the game works fine. I've only ever played this game once. Capturing soldiers is a pain your solution is great. I didn't even know over soldiers could catch them for you. Dragging them all myself.
My PSP is broken.
I remember enjoying the story.
Portable Ops is an excellent buffer title between MGS3 and Peace Walker, both in terms of gameplay and story. It’s a nice blend of both, where the leap from 3 to PW without PO can be jarring
Since Snake Eater is getting a more direct remake in Delta, maybe they can take a more liberal approach to remaking Portable Ops (and even Peace Walker). Hell, they could even combine the two and have Portable Ops' scenario be the prologue to the larger segment that is covered in Peace Walker. Kind of like the Tanker/Plant scenarios in MGS2, Virtuous Mission/Operation Snake Eater in MGS3, and Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain in MGSV.
I also heard that the current producer of the Delta remake worked on Portable Ops so it would be great if he could push for it to be remade. The possibilities for future remakes are endless, and I hope they can take some liberties in bringing the "smaller screen" games like Portable Ops and Peace Walker to a new light. And of course, they NEED to remake Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake as those have the most important events between Solid Snake and Big Boss. I would fully support a campaign to get the games remade chronologically if that is Konami's plan.
I don't like Portable Ops or Peacewalker. After MGS3, the lack of an open interconnected world threw me off, made me feel less like a soldier sneaking around in the forest and more like some random guy who has to follow direct orders and read comic books with QTE sequences. Not to mention just how boring Peacewalker's dialog is and the lack of a codec system, it's like a string of mini challenges and not a full game. Lore wise, they might aswell be VR missions, and I don't like that, I don't like the fast paced arcadey feel, I like objectives that take a long time to complete.
MGS1 - 3 had a very high feeling of stealth and sneaking around, hiding in places, knocking out enemies and peacewalker and portable ops just doesn't have that.
I thought you'd say Peace Walker
As a MGS hardcore fan, my family only had enough money to buy me a Nintendo DS.. I missed the opportunity to play this masterpiece. PO is a small but crucial part of MGS history, I’d definitely accept it gracefully as the next remake. The only concern I have with these remakes is the voice cast. I, by default, expect to hear some of the original cast. As much as I love Hayter, I am worried he might not be able to sound as young as he is portrayed to be in the game. Regardless, he is the only option as I do not accept another Snake considering this was between Snake Eater and PW.
Everyone REALLY forgets Metal Gear Solid Ghost Babel...
Exactly. I also want more alternate timeline Metal Gear Solid in general. Maybe a story written by Yoko Taro in his own version of the Metal Gear universe.
They should do the two original Msx games and just make one game called metal gear that covers both games, a two scenario game with outer heaven and then a time skip to Zanzibar land . Bring them to the modern era and bring kojima on to help out 👍kiss and make up
I really enjoyed PO a lot. It was a product of it's time compared to PW that was more refined and polished and had influence from MGS4. The online mode made the game well worth it (and PO+) and I think is a key element missing from players that play it today. Great video!
If Konami was smart and fully capable, they would remake both Portable Ops and Peace Walker and bundle them together with content from Portable Ops + to add value. That would be perfect. But realistically, they'll most likely skip to PW.
Nah just Stick with PW.
All I want is a remake of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. Those games are so important to everything and I think they have the potential to be amazing. I doubt it will ever happen or if it did it probably won't be done well since Kojima isn't on board. It would be difficult.
This game paved the way into the peacewalker and MGS V era with its gameplay mechanics. Also the story made a good connection from MGS 3 to Peacewalker. I remember I used to love to play it. You didnt mention the online Mode and MGSPOps+ was focusing a lot on multiplayer. I found it superb for a handheld game. It might have even give me more joy than PW.
Calling to the Night is one of my favourite songs from the franchise
I hope they remake Portable Ops combined with Peace Walker, kind of what Ground Zeroes is to TPP
I never got the chance to play Portable Ops. I usually ignore it’s place it in the canon, but maybe I need to rip it in an emulator. I think fans would be confused by a retitled remake in this instance. Maybe make it Delta DLC?
I’ve very much considered PO to be canon - I know Kojima’s comments made it confusing but PW references some events that happened in PO. I just think he forgot about PO when he made that comment
i loved the PSP games and im bummed portable ops and acid havnt been ported at all. Really hoping they say fuck it and re release all the ones that been locked on consoles or emualators for decades now.
Never played portable ops, love Snake Eater but it's really rubbing me wrong how they made the boss look like a guy.
She was always to some extent androgynous but she retained a lot of femininity that was vital to her character and seems to be missing on this iteration.
Let's be honest konami is doing the new remake because they are recycle the voices, the music, chatacters, plot. Etc. They will never spend money on a remake they have to do from zero. Not gonna happen. Sorry
As a longtime fan, I will play MGS 3 remake but I'm sad it's gonna be without KOJIMA at the helm, peace walker is the most slept on imo!!!....
They can release MGPO in the Vol. 2 and update the game play with Fulton Recovery and new controllers. They should remake MG & MG2 Solid Snake.
it should be the gameboy color one
Portable Ops MUST be the next remake. Email them if you have to.
Why not remake these games using the open world? It'll be an absolute banger! You can leave everything else, the story, cutscenes and dialogue as is!
Imagine they remake the original Metal Gear 1 and 2 but with the modern games' engine
(Not Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear)
I am glad I got this game on my PS Vita. Being able to use a second stick is awesome. A really under appreciated title.
A top down remake of Portable Ops would be pretty cool, although I'd ideally like to have it merged with a Peace Walker remake.
Lol no, it is not a great game. I subbed because of your MGS2 video but damn dude most of your other content is just disappointingly bad
2:45 Psh, no Snake's Revenge? I know it's not really a Metal Gear game, but that's just like Super Mario 2 isn't a real Mario game. I managed to get myself a copy of that and Twin Snakes between 15 & 10 years ago respectively, but I keep passing on VR Missions for some reason. And of course I have Portable Ops & Peacewalker and everything on PS1/2/Xbox, but nothing MGS4 and up. I should probably get on that. Oh and Resurgence is badass too.
The real Metal Gear game that everyone forgot was Metal Gear Acid.
Beat this game several times. Wish they carried over the spy unit to peacewalker and phantom pain as well. Just a new modern console release would be great.