Bambi II - Disneycember
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- What's stranger, making a sequel to Bambi, or that sequel almost working? Doug takes a look at Bambi II.
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Honestly, every time someone says woohoo, my siblings and me say, "A prince does not woohoo."
But DuckTales do!
Ha ha! I like the look of the new animation so far.
ThePreciseClimber DUCK TITS WOOHOO
I guess this is why Bambi said "Woohoo" in that scene. He noticed 'some Ducktits.
ThePreciseClimber lol
Doug should do the disney channel original movies next year. That would destroy him.
Totally!
mounir maged JUST DO IT!!
I approve this request!
Tracking all of them down might be a huge pain, though.
ruthiehenshallfan99 Yup
Fun fact: Disney was so proud of this movie that even though it was a DVD release in the US, they made it a theatrical release in Europe and South America.
The Movie Planet Thank you! I was completely lost because I could swear I saw it in theater with my cousins in France, I was starting to question my own sanity.
invock You're welcome! They had done the same thing before with Peter Pan 2 (Return to Neverland) and The Jungle Book 2, which were both supposed to be straight-to-DVD at first, but got worldwide theatrical releases instead. More recently the later Tinker Bell films got released in theaters in some countries.
The Movie Planet I wish they had done a theatrical release in America. Honestly, I thought it was worthy of being seen on the big screen after I saw it the first time. It was a really good film.
It's not the only sequel that got a direct-to-home release in the US but a theatrical release overseas. The Lion King II got a theatrical release in Germany, where The Lion King is tremendously popular even to this day.
Correct. I actually remember it getting some heavy promotion in the UK, like large scale TV and newspaper advertisements. From Europe's point of view, this was meant to be a big mainstream Disney sequel for Bambi rather than a cheap cash in, and the film itself could have likely convinced many that, especially the animation budget.
Bambi 2 is DLC for the first movie. Just pause at that one moment in the first movie, watch this movie, and then return to where you were on the previous movie. It's like that Winter DLC for The Last of Us.
Same amount of sexual tension too!
***** NOICE.
TheGoldenDunsparce Incest is in the air...
Area DMG That's what I was thinking!
@BaseballSam1 It was originally going to be called 'Bambi and the Great Prince'. Don't ask why they thought 'Bambi 2' sounded better.
Bambii 2: what happens after 'Mommy killing'.
And before 'fa la la la twit twitty' little birdies!
So...wait. This movie is what happens during the fade-to-black? :/
Nintendotron64 yes
yes exactly that
That's the idea.
Well kinda. It is also Intermission time, like in the theater.
I imagine that was the case when movie theaters & drive-ins at the time DID have breaks in between motion pictures.
I love how you brought up the animation in this movie, because in the "making of" special the creators DID try their damnest to get it as close to nature as the original did. And for the most part, I feel like they succeeded!
I remember that! And one of the animators (Andreas Deja himself) called Bambi the hardest Disney character to draw, yet they succeeded in drawing him perfectly.
the only reason why they used cel animation in the original Bambi is because Digital animation wasn't avalible yet if they had digital ink and paint ( drawing cartoons on paper then scanning them on to the computer and coloring them with photoshop) then Disney probably would have used it
Mew Kiichigo Wait, so Andreas Deja worked on this?
fun fact: disney invented cel animation first you paint the background, then you take regular copy paper then you draw sketches of 1 character moving a little bit at a time you use the light box to see your earlier drawings, then then the women take an see through piece of paper that looks like plastic wrap, they put the clear sheet on top of the sketch and trace it with ink, then it gets passed on to the painters and they paint the characters and they stack the clear peaces of paper on top of the background have a special camera and take a picture then you do the same thing 1 billion more times
another fun fact disney also invented digital ink and paint in the 80's in digital ink and paint you make a drawings on paper then you scan them into Adobe flash, seperate the drawings and characters on different layers ( just like cel animation) then you color it in after effects or photoshop
5:32 That scene where they used the deer call really scared me when I was a kid. I'd always cover my ears and I still think it's a pretty bold thing to do in a movie made for children.
same.
I remember tearing up as a kid during that scene. He's a small child who still thinks about his mother after possibly months of her being dead and hears her voice again. He wants to reunite with her and is greeted by a pack of dogs ready to tear him to shreds instead.
Used to cling to my mom if she were around because of how personal that scene can easily be.
Tomori I never watched this movie and it's still kinda creepy in the video
I've never even seen the film and I find it terrifying even a legit horror film wouldn't go that far to freak out it's audience
Same. Never seen this one, but the death scene of the original left such an impact that it makes this scene even more haunting and eerie. I can easily imagine kids being scared by it
I didn't realize how much I loved Bambi and his father's designs.
I really love the angled eye-shines. I just noticed how they kind of stand out design-wise from other Disney characters.
Like father, like son!
This was the best Disney sequel. There was so much character development and everyone was so likable in it. They also redrew the fighting scenes between Bambi and Ronno from the first film for this sequel, showing how they fought both as children and adults. There was so much foreshadowing that was really clever, and so many parallels to the first film. When I first heard about it I was like why? Why do a sequel to THAT? Then I tuned into it on Disney Channel by chance and I ended up loving it. I bought it on dvd, watched it with my dad, and grew closer with him as a result. Honestly? There's nothing wrong with this movie but your own nostalgia goggles or expectations going in. Take the goggles off and appreciate it for what it is as the missing chapter of Bambi's life, and this sequel is amazing.
Melissa Smith Lmao someone's salty. I appreciated the parallels and thought it was clever how they tied into the first movie and gave Ronno character and a reason to be like he was. It showed a cycle of abuse that grew into adulthood. But go ahead and cry more about how this movie ruined your childhood by expanding on it.
Melissa Smith LOL You're definitely smarter than I am. Keep going. You're absolutely proving your point and changing my mind.
I agree with you, sometimes you just need to stop exacting something from the nostalgia side, cause you never going to get it again. you can be a child only once XD and I think this movie was much better then most Disney sequel that come years later.
and NO it's not terrible, anyone that claim it is don't know what a good sequel is. and I say it is a sequel cause that what it is! it come to develop a character in a way you didn't even know you can have, and after you have it you learn to appreciate the character you love years after much more.
that what a good sequel should do!!!
Nori Ahroai I felt like it tried more than other Disney sequels to really be worthy of being tied to the first film. They could have done something really stupid and rehashed the first film like they did for other sequels, but instead they tried to fill in the missing chapter between his mother dying and Bambi suddenly becoming an adult buck. And I liked how they showed Ronno pushing Faline around as a young buck, and how they showed how Bambi went from a naive, fragile fawn with PTSD over his mother's death to a strong, independent and brave buck. The callback with the new doe saying "Run, Bambi! Don't look back!" and the scene with him right after was brilliant to me. The expressions they drew on his face were enough to convey what he was thinking. Other movies might have taken that opportunity to do an unnecessary flashback to his mother in the meadow and him running away, but this movie just gave the suggestion of him remembering that...and then choosing to call the dogs' attention and save the doe instead, even though that WASN'T his mother. Even if the other person on this comment thread is wholly negative about this movie enough to rave on every positive comment on this video about how terrible it seems in her eyes, I enjoyed the parallels, the callbacks, and the expansion upon the first narrative. To be honest, I wish Disney would put out a DVD splicing the second movie into the first so I could marathon it with my nieces. I also think that movies like this could help children who are dealing with having a missing parental figure in their life and new parents who don't know what they're doing. It's such a family film for broken families. When I get my teaching degree and there are days at the end of the semester where everyone is just putting on movies because it's the end of the semester or school year I'll definitely be choosing this one to put on for the kids in my class.
SonictheShapeshifter a.k.a. LadyFoxling
yeas that called a "character development" when it done right, you full in love even more with a character you thought you love before.
and in a way, this movie is mature. I like his father character much more now XD it the first movie he seem like the boring type of father.
but I guess, everyone have their own opinion on it. I think it the best sequel, really the best! that would be prefect has a family movie for broken family's, not every family is perfect.
Yeah it's been confirmed the bully deer Ronno was the same deer who Bambi fights as an adult.
Same color pattern and same cut on the ear.
Plus, when he fights with Bambi in the last part of the movie, the color atmosphere and some fight moves are just like in the fight in the first movie.
There's an old book i used to read at my nan's that straight up said the older deer's name and it was the same
@@dustyrose192 Bambi is an adaptation of a book. Ronno has always existed as a character, so that makes sense
Also, in the first movie during the fight, he’s leading Faline away from Bambi. I rewatched the sequel tonight and kid Ronno does the same to Feline and Bambi again stands up for her by telling to leave her alone
Honestly, I loved the fight scene that obviously showed references when they fight as adults, (like Ronno trying to stomp on Bambi with his hooves, or way earlier in the movie when Ronno is trying to push Faline away with his antlers.) So many references! Bambi pushing the rocks on the dogs, him attempting to be brave by jumping over the huge gap, and more.
I can't lie... The scene where Bambi dreams about his mother hit me really hard. It wasn't necessary, but it was done so well that I can't hate it.
That scene depressed the fuck out of me as a kid. Almost as much as the deaths of Mufasa and Littlefoot’s Mother did.
It IS sad, but that dream Bambi had about visiting his mother in Heaven showed how much he loved her, and how much he missed her! She gave him reassurance that everything will be okay, and she's always there, even if he can't see her!
In my opinion, it's great that the father wasn't the stoic, "you mean nothing to me" type.
It's just such a tired cliche, and one that is very predictable. In fact, I think his personality was perfect for the prince of the herd. Strong, wise, not really all that playful but at the same time clearly caring for the animals he protects. A great leader cares about
their group. A great leader does show emotion, they just know how to control it.
And it's not like he just immediately becomes carefree and overtly happy. He had planned (and did!) to give away Bambi to another mother. It's not until he thinks Bambi died that he realizes how much he loves him. There's still the whole struggle with Bambi wanting to impress his dad, the dad being kind of wary of the whole idea in the first place, etc. It's the same development, just with a father figure who already shows some emotion.
Diving a little deeper into this, the characterization is also great on another level. In media, the male leader figures often start out with the stoic archetype. Their development usually has the moral of "everyone needs to show emotion!", since boys are often raised with the idea that they should hold their feeling back. And sure, it's a great moral, but the one thing in these stories is that it's usually someone else that brings out their affection. Here, the male figure already shows care for others. It shows that men don't need to rely on others for emotional expression, they can do it themselves.
In the context of the movie, it's great because it makes the relationship between Bambi and his dad more personal. Their interactions are not hindered by their personalities, the only thing that determines how they act towards one another is how close they are.
Overall, great review. I do agree that it's definitely not the fist movie, but, IMO, it doesn't need to be. It's great on its own.
I agree. There's no point in making a movie about how Bambi grows with his father if his father is so stern and tough all the time.
I loved seeing The Great Prince finally being able to open up and show his softer side because he has a son to care for. It's something i find important for a movie like this , because it gives him character and impacts the moments that he IS genuinely strict with Bambi or when Bambi gets mad at him.
They bonded through love. We dont get father/child movies like this all the time, so it's great to see the father capable of emotions outside of strictness and nobility. He loved his wife and loves his son, thats all there is to it.
Bambi's father was taught that raising fawns is the doe's job, and to shut off his feelings, but he couldn't do that when Bambi's mother was shot and killed by hunters, and when Bambi nearly died when he fell off the cliff! I was especially happy seeing the Great Prince smiling and laughing with his son while they played together! He was strict, but he also had a tender loving side to his personality! He ALWAYS loved his family!
"We get lines like 'A prince does not woo-hoo.'" Are you kidding? Hearing Patrick Stewart say that is hilarious!
it is hilarious, but i have to agree with doug that it kind of undermines the strength of the character which lay primarily in how mysterious and distant he was.
The scene would've worked better if he just said "Bambi." and looked at him. Like the scene from the first movie.
My dad and I still quote those lines to this day.
The real question is how much did Disney pay him to say that line?
And then afterwards Seth Macfarlene decided to have Patrick Stewart say crazy shit for a whole cartoon series. XD
The most underrated Disney sequel in my opinion.
NefariousShyGuy cindy 3?
warren byrne A lot of people say that's the best Disney sequel, or Lion King 2 or the Aladdin sequels, but I rarely hear people say anything about Bambi 2, so that's why it's underrated.
NefariousShyGuy i thought peter pan 2 was pretty good (underrated) very emotional
***** oh!brother! brother bear 2
I'd say one of them. Of course, that's my opinion.
I actually enjoyed Bambi 2. Alot. Dare I say it, I liked it more than the original. I loved seeing Bambi bond with his father, and his father actually having a character. Its one of my top four favorite Disney sequels
It's called a midquel, because it takes place after Bambi's mother's death and before he reaches adulthood! Besides Bambi bonding with his father, we also get to meet Ronno, the bully deer! It gave everyone a better understanding as to how in the original film, he changed from a childhood bully into a dark monster, but Bambi STILL pummeled him, because Thumper taught him to be brave, while his father trained him to defend himself!
"Faster! Faster, Bambi! Don't look back! Keep running! Keep running!"
I love that scene because not only did Mena quote Bambi's mother word for word, but the filmmakers showed respect for the audience by not cutting to a flashback. As much as I love Frozen, even that movie made the mistake of cutting to a flashback when Anna found Elsa in her Ice Palace, which we didn't need to see because we already know why Elsa was traumatised and could understand what she was thinking just by looking at her expression. Bambi 2 didn't need to spell out why Bambi stopped and turned back after Mena cried those words. They were the last words Bambi's mother ever said to him.
Bambi was determined not to let history repeat itself after his mother was shot and killed by hunters! He helped his father save Mena's life, and I'm sure they stayed friends even after she left!
The Dark Deer: Bambi Begins.
Is it weird that now I love you X3
Weird - good one
Hey Willcraft I never expected you to be in the comments of a nostalgia critic video its good to see you
Their relationship literally reminds me of Bruce Wayne and a young Robin so that works.
Actually, out of all the sequels, Bambi II is my favorite. It's the one that Disney tried their damnedest on while the other films are just...ICK!
Really??!? In my opinion the Rescuers Down Under had the most effort put into it
Mantis nobody includes Rescuers Down Under with the other Disney sequels since it was actually made by Disney and not a B studio
Return to Neverland is my favorite Disney sequel.
@@sailorgallifrey1365 Bambi 2 was half and half, since while it was made under their B team unit, it actually had a few Disney veterans manning the project. Actually it had a few same people who worked on Rescuers Down Under such as the same composer, along with a couple key members from The Lion King.
Lady and the Tramp 2 was good too
Okay i have a problem with this review and that's Doug's thoughts on the father. Yes, he's the leader of the forest. He needs to show to many that he is meant to lead and show courage. However, seeing a character who is serious being vulnerable makes him more relatable. i also think it was okay for Bambi to asks questions at a young age to wonder why he's so stern mainly because he's used to up to this point being with his mom, someone who wasn't very stern. Hell, in Kramer vs. Kramer, when the mother decided to leave, abandoning her parenting role with her husband, the husband, a workaholic, must balance not just work, but as a father as well, something he's not used to. And throughout the story, we see the dilemmas and sacrifices the husband goes through and that makes him relatable on trying to be a good father, even up to the last third during the court hearing. And that's what I want to see with Bambi's father, he shows he's a brave leader, but must try to be a father by teaching his son the same way and because he hasn't been with him all of his life until now, his vulnerability makes him relatable on taking the responsibility of being a parent.
You're right,, I never understood Doug's criticisms, it sounds like him being strong with no flaws makes a good parent but it doesn't it just makes him look shallow and how can that translate to being a parent, it makes no sense
He's not better than Mufasa, but he's alright.
I get the impression that the father's few appearances in the first film really made an impression on Doug, and that he simply wanted a character who matched that impression in the sequel. The father we did get here felt a bit formulaic to him, and not quite like the same character, at least not Doug's interpretation of him. So it's more of a character-related pet peeve. He's definitely not saying that vulnerability is bad or that good parents should be stern and stoic.
To Doug's credit, he admitted that his view of the great Prince was a "pet peeve" and said he was being "kinda nitpicky". I think the problem is that he loves the first Bambi so much that he's LOOKING for flaws in Bambi 2. The original Bambi had such a profound impact on Doug that he admitted that he rarely rewatches it. He suggested that it might be because "there's only so many cutesy wootsy moments I can sit through" but I think it's actually because he knows that he had an experience that he will never recapture and he's afraid of finding flaws in the movie that gave him that experience. He seems scared that Bambi 2 might be even better so he's picking out any flaws he can find due to his nostalgia for the original.
I feel that Doug is speaking straight from the heart here. In many other reviews, he can assert his opinions confidently, even with beloved movies like The Matrix and Gladiator. Here, he sounds conflicted and it's BECAUSE he seems conflicted that I believe he's being honest with us, but perhaps not with himself. It's like there's a part of him that wants to call Bambi 2 a masterpiece but he can't bring himself to do so because he's worried that it would overshadow the original that he cherishes.
Or maybe my pretentious psycho analysis is wrong.
@@tomnorton4277 I think you might be over analyzing. 🤷♂️
In my opinion, I feel somewhat the same way of almost wanting to call Bambi 2 a masterpiece but can’t quite bring myself to it. Not because I feel it’ll over shadow the original because that, to me, actually is a masterpiece, but because there are flaws in Bambi 2. Many of the flaws he mentioned I agree with like the art trying too much to be like the original where you can appreciate the great job they did but at the same time it doesn’t capture the somber tender tone of the original all that well. Bambi 2 feels like a film that’s happy when it wants to be, sad when it wants to be etc. But the original had some tender tone to the whole film even when Bambi was just being a kid learning. Bambi 2 is great but it just isn’t quite a masterpiece. But it’s pretty darn close. Also Ronno in this was the weakest part of the film. Cliche bully character that acts too tough and when danger happens he runs away scared. Nothing interesting about his character to me.
But maybe I’m over analyzing it as well. 😂
The reason the Great Prince is all over the place in his treatment of Bambi is just like what a real parent is.
A parent does not have to be stern all the time, only when he/she needs to be. Look at the first film when Bambi and he meet for the first time. Bambi smiles, but the Great Prince does not. He was in the presence of the other deer in the forest, so he needed to appear strong and stern, even for his own son.
Also, while he is playing with Bambi, what parent wouldn't laugh with their child while interacting with them? Also, he was away from prying eyes, so his facade of sternness was still stable.
The Great Prince had a strict upbringing himself, where he was taught "the old-fashioned way" of doing things, with ALL rules "set in stone!" In the first film, he was standing on top of the hill watching Bambi's birth, and all the forest animals visiting to meet him, and to congratulate his mother! When he appeared on the meadow with the other deer standing still in reverence, he was able to take a closer look at his son, and his ears moved forward in curiosity! He reappeared when Man was in the forest, and he helped Bambi and his mother get to safety, and when his mother was shot and killed by hunters, he was devastated that he couldn't save her! Despite his stern facial expression, he had REAL feelings, and he ALWAYS loved his family! As stern as he acted, he was STILL able to smile and laugh while playing with his son!
Holy crap, the scene with the hunter using the deer caller--that is DARK! And there's so many psychological layers to it. It's fucking brilliant. Wow. Who knew a direct-to-DVD Disney sequel would have such a Freudian gem in it? Bravo, writers.
I remember when I was a kid I got freaked out at that scene it still gives me chills to this day 😳 every time I watch it
Man, I only saw this movie once. That deer call was terrifying, but it helps put a twisted thought to how deer calls work, I think it's pretty good. Strangely enough, I can't find that scene anywhere on TH-cam, despite how much attention it may get.
Deer Calls are not meant for Fawns
LaughingOwlKiller I hope so, I know nothing about that stuff. I'm just saying, that is one heck of a perspective on those things. Makes me never want to touch them either way.
TopsyTriceratops Well I do and Fawns are illegal to kill...no one would anyway since fawns are not worth harvesting as trophy or food. In fact a Fawn would barely if ever heed a deer call since Deer Calls are meant to either mimic a Doe in Heat or A Buck Challenging Dominance. Do not for one moment take what Bambi shows as evidence of hunting. Film and Tv ALWAYS get it wrong.
So basically, Doug wanted Bambi's dad to be a Howard Stark. Good to know.
Hey we could have gotten tony stark bambi
Thanos: I am inevitable
Bambi: and I...don’t go woo hoo
I would say Kratos, but that works too.
"A prince doesn't 'woohoo' " is my personal line of the film, only for the hilarity of the idea of the line being said by Patrick Stewart in any other role, "A Starfleet Officer does not 'woohoo'." A Mutant does not 'woohoo'."
Last time I was this early, Bambi's Mom was alive.
Chopper BUMBI
Bumbi's Mom she's...WAHHHH!!!!
Savage
MeganKoumori too soon as in 74 years after the tragedy 😂
One of the only times I've laughed at a joke like this
My personal favorite of the Disney sequels!
Omg Toucan!!
Miduel
I ment midquel
It's called a midquel, because it takes place after Bambi's mother's death and before he reaches adulthood!
There's a sequel to 2001?
Bman54X yep 2010....it's okay if you're not a fan of 2001
I never knew this either.
The book (which was written at the same time as the movie) actually got several sequels. The movie only got one sequel, and it's about astronauts going to Europa.
Bman54X It's called 2002.
Star Gamer 3120
Holy cow! That scene description of the deer call sounding like Bambi's mother calling out, "Hello! I'm here!" like a generic sound that deer make is brutal and awesome at the same time!
5:32 That part scared me, it even almost made me cry
That scared the shit of me when I was a kid
I remember watching that scene for the first time, gave me chills. Actually as kid I almost thought the mother was somehow still alive
mnI That's what scared me the most! I thought it was his mom who was alive and that gave me the same perespective as bambi, I felt confused and scared just like Bambi
Lol.
That's exatcly it, I guess they succeeded on that
"Step out into the meadow and take a look." Right, because that worked out so well for Bambi's mum.
I don't know why but I think bambi's dad is kinda handsome.
Kitano Shuya *coughs* furry *coughs*
@aman, and your point?
ZGuy0fSci There is none, it's a cheap joke that was easy to make because I can't think of anything clever.
Angel, The Dark Overlord Because it's a bad joke or that you're worried for my wellbeing?
Angel, The Dark Overlord I think a better word is majestic
Yeah, it sounds like you are nitpicking.
I am definitely watching this one, the animation is fucking spectacular.
Norspark I mean, if he had criticisms, he had criticisms. He still liked it.
When Bambi falls off the cliff and his father finds his body, you already know he's going to be alright because of the first film. The writers no doubt knew that it wouldn't fool anyone who's seen the first movie so they saved one simple word for that scene to make it as effective as possible.
Dad.
Before that scene, Bambi never referred to the Great Prince as "dad" in his presence, only using the word around his friends. He was still too intimidated to use such an intimate and personal title to his father's face. It's clear that the writers were saving it specifically for that moment. Also the actor voicing Bambi delivered it perfectly.
The scene where Bambi is made to leave with Mena was also done wonderfully. The music, the gestures, the minimal dialogue in favour of acting, it was all truly heartbreaking and made really apparent how close Bambi had become to his father. It was the key point it genuinely felt like it could have come from the original 40s film.
At first, Bambi called his father "Sir" out of respect - especially after admitting that he jumped over the large chasm with Thumper on his back, and his father commented that he didn't make a jump like that until he had antlers! I'm not REALLY sure if Bambi was afraid of his father, but he DID want him to be proud of him! The Great Prince sent Bambi away with Mena, because he was taught that it's the doe's job to raise fawns! After Bambi nearly died when he fell off the cliff, but regained consciousness and he called him "Dad" for the very first time, he was forced to realize that Friend Owl was right about him being the best one to raise his son! The way they nuzzled each other was wonderful, and he ALWAYS loved his son!
This was one of the stronger sequels. It's lovely, and very cute at the same time
As a Sims player, "A prince does not WooHoo" takes on an entirely different meaning..... :p
HaHaahHhahahahahahah that's what I was thinking
Except a prince needs an heir, so they need to WooHoo.
Dio has to C O O M
Probably one of the better direct-to-video sequels.
The deer call scene was taken from the book, but the context was different. Originally, the scene happened much later in the story, when Bambi was an adult, and he thought it was Faline calling to him. I think it works better that way.
The only real problem I have with this movie is the same as what Doug said with the father being a stereotypical struggling parent and Ronno being a stereotypical bullying jerk.
Bambi had more of his essential father and son time during his adulthood in the book, but Walt barely intended doing much with Great Prince back then other just having him for a little bit of stunts and barely making appearances(Bambi didn’t say anything to him in the first film).
That would’ve been the best ‘missed’ potential for Bambi’s adulthood(I than is coming from a guy he grew up and seen the movies first).
After Patrick Stewart was wasted in that god-awful 'Chicken Little', him playing the Great Prince in Bambi II has to be like casting James Earl Jones as Mufasa by comparison!
Unfortunately yes, in a small throwaway role as a mean sheep teacher.
Fun fact: Patrick Stewart had been pushed for a role in a Disney movie for nearly two decades beforehand, but projects like Star Trek always intervened (he regretted not being able to play Jafar in particular).
At least having him voice Mr. Woolensworth in "Chicken Little" was better than him voicing Poop in "The Emoji Movie".
@@moviemaniac2159 On the plus side most say Patrick Stewart's roles in those bad movies was at least a small redeeming aspect for them. Actually nearly every damn cartoon he's in he tends to be the highlight, this one included.
@@moviemaniac2159 The Poop Emoji acting very sophisticated is kind of a humorous idea. It's just that the part wasn't written well.
This was actually released in theatres, explaining why there was so much effort thrown in
Gnator8t4 the animation in this is way too good for direct to dvd
It wasn't released in theaters in the states.
Micah Hirsh I kind of wish we had this released in theaters instead of The Jungle Book 2 or even Peter Pan 2: Return to Neverland imo
Gnator8t4 Only two of the sequels got commercial runs beyond awards qualification(which is minimal) in the U.S.
Yeah, I remember it on theaters on my country at the time, I remember wanting to watch it on theaters.
"A Prince does not "WooHoo".
Welp, no sex for you, Bambi. Gotta be a king to do that.
Whoever made up that rule can go swim in a ladderless pool.
{dosn't get joke}
You can express yourself without having to say just WooHoo
Woohoo/Whoopie means having sex.
"It's good to be the king" - Mel Brooks
So that's why Simba couldn't wait to be king.
5:45 "Kinda disturbing."
You bet it is. That legit scared me, and that's just a review of the film.
I haven't even seen the first Bambi movie
Drop whatever you're doing and watch it
The first Bambi was great! :D
MegaSoulhero why
It was the first movie that I cried at when I was a kid
Why not? You should.
I can't wait to see the video for Cinderella 3!
ThinkingOfYou75 YES!!!...!!! cindy 3!
Me Too!
oooooh yeah
wo-ho
a human being doesn't ''wo-ho''
Great review. You're right, the movie really captures the essence of the original classic. Plus, Patrick Stewart did a tremendous job as the Great Prince.
SIR Patrick Stewart was 100% perfection!
This midquel really rolled with the "son longs for his distant, emotionally boxed father to genuinely care about him" story on all cylinders, and it wasn't by any means bad with the way they went about it. Their relationship is developed to a great degree during the course of the movie, to the point where near the end when it almost appears as if Bambi has been tragically killed that the Great Prince finally opens up on a personal level and shows he truly loves his son and future successor to the title more than he had been letting on up to that point. He sheds genuine tears when he believes for a moment that his one and only child is seemingly dead which speaks volumes to just how close they have become, especially the obvious joy and relief he shows when Bambi wakes up and it drives home the fact that they've truly connected as father and son. It follows on from just how little we saw of their interaction from the original film, and their relationship over the course becomes along the lines of Mufasa and Simba in The Lion King. Some of the parts in the midquel do in a way sort of remind me of their scenes together in the latter and the parallels are indeed there.
I have to say, Patrick Stewart really shined as the Great Prince. I mean the man behind Jean-Luc Picard himself as a majestic buck, they definitely couldn't have chosen a better voice for that role.
One thing I think I like about this version is that they decided to just make that the main story. There's no side ambition that's driving contention like Bambi wanting 'another purpose' or not wanting to be a prince or having forbidden love, he's genuinely just trying to make the best of the situation he's in and reaching out to this parent he's barely seen before, and I think that allows for more subtle personality focus than other cases over just tons of cliched rows and break ups between the parent and child which tend to just really wear thin with me.
he's going to shit a brick with fox and the hound 2.
I hate the little girl and mayor scenes are whatever those were in Fox and Hound 2.
i hate the movie in genral
EeveeParty97 nice profile pic
...There's a Fox and the Hound 2? Oh God....
***** yep
A Disney sequel with actual effort put in?!
@2023 Brayden Langford na those are all mainly bad in my opinion but I haven’t watched some of them yet
5:32 *childhood trauma flashbacks intensify*
So according to Doug the good sequels are as follows
!01 Dalmations 2
Tarzan 2
Bambi 2
and Lion King 2 being just okay.
Fascinating.
And he had more than a few good things to say about Peter Pan: Return to neverland last year. So there's that.
VocalCalibration Well he thinks the stich sequels are good/OK too
Tarponpet Secord Oh that's right, forgot about that.
To me the only okay ones are Lion King II and Bambi II.
MrImastinker fuck both of them. no one gives two shits
I felt you reviewed this well, well done.
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Thomas Alvarez Yeah I love that he praised the look of the film and the effort that clearly went into it, and I agreed with what he said about the father.
00ammy00 I agree o. the mysterious hard side that kinda falls flat in this movie. However I praise it for the emotion we see this character passing through along the way to the last second. Man if you look closely at him in some key scenes involving a reminder of the mother in a way or another while he's around, I swear it breaks me heart.
00ammy00 I understand what he's trying to say about the father, and I do love how mysterious he is in the original, but I actually really liked how the film showed him struggling to maintain this facade of Prince of the Forest and mold Bambi into a suitable heir, all the while grieving for Bambi's mother and coming to connect with and love his son. I felt that his struggle was one of the most compelling parts of the film--it may have taken away the mystery of his character, but I also felt it was very authentic.
Jensen Adler That's it, that's exactly it!
Can I just say, I never had a good relationship with my dad, so when I watched Bambi 2 it actually really helped me to communicate with him and understand some things that Fathers do that kids don't understand. I know it's not the Citizen Kane of deers but it holds a special place in my heart.
Since Bambi 2 came out 10 years ago, this film was such a huge part of my childhood and my favourite Disney sequel to date, I thought it tied in really well with the first one and kind of saw them as two parts of a whole instead of just an old classic and a thrown in sequel.
Still hoping he reviews "Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin."
oh gosh I barely even remember that movie I was so little when I first watched it and years later I couldn't remember the name of it I've only seen it twice I think
I love that one
I loved that one when i was little. I can't remember mutch but from what i can remember it was mysteriouse and scary, in a good way. I can't get a picture in my head but one of the best moments was when they where in some sort of skull cave.
That is my favorite Winnie the Pooh movie, hands down.
"You are stronger than you seem, braver than you believe, and smarter than you think."
This is a good movie, not the first one, but still good.
Well of course it's not the first, it's the second
Isaiah Williams yeah
Nathan Light I think what he means is that Bambi and Bambi 2 cannot be compared, even if Bambi 2 is actually a good midquel, because the 1st Bambi is such a masterpiece that cannot be 100% recreated.
I feel like if I ever made a movie where I avoid doing everything that Doug complains about, I make great, fun characters that he usually likes, I do a unique story that he always asks for, and I make it beautifully animated with kick-ass songs...Doug's response would be along the lines of "Yeah, I guess it was a good movie but it felt like it was trying too hard to impress me. I'm not saying it's bad or anything. But it could have been so much better!" Oh, Doug. Even a movie made specifically for you probably couldn't fully impress you. 😏
It'd be more fun to make a movie that he'd hate, with shitty characters, bad writing, bad acting, adults doing children characters' voices, lazy music, bad animation, and lots and lots of cliches and shit that makes no sense.
***** yes 😻
He'd probably love it, the bloody psychopath..
B Jones love what? The good one or the bad one?
The horrible one. He'd find it refreshing probably. 😂
A note about this movie that I think a lot of people gloss over is how well this movie presents The Great Prince's relationship with Bambi's mother. it's never overly stated or given this great speech. It's just filled with these quiet moments that mean so much more. For example, there are times that when the mother is mentioned, you see the hurt, the longing on the Prince's face. And for me, this is one of the best secret parts of the film. It made me interested in this backstory, I wanted to know more. And it was done with just the right amount of finesse that it was very moving without beating you over the head. For me, it's the little things that makes this movie worth watching.
hold the fucking phone
There was a sequel to 2001?
I expect a review!
Huh I never knew it even existed. Thought it would be 2002.
I don't think most of us knew.
Tater Down 2010 was a great science fiction movie that has a lot of continuity with the first film's plot elements and design. It doesn't try to be as artistic or beautiful as the first, because that's just impossible, especially without Kubrick at the helm. But it's definitely enjoyable and it's really cool to watch.
2001 was made soon after the book, and 2010 came out later, in 1982. The books go further on, with 2061 and 3001, and those never had movie versions.
This movie should be called "Bambi Begins".
I was looking forward to Doug review this. It's one of the best Disney sequels in my book.
Some peoples fukcing avatars XD.
Oh finally! He talked about this movie! And I'm glad he kinda liked it. One of my favorite Disney sequels.
Glad to finally see this review
AtomicComms yes
It's called a midquel, because it takes place after Bambi's mother's death and before he reaches adulthood!
Also the father learned that it's ok to mourn. He went from a strict and solitude life to having accept his wife/mates death. Just as Bambi does. Bambi showed his father that it's ok to be sad and vulnerable at times.
Bambi also taught his father to smile and laugh, along with having fun!
I always really liked the idea of a midquel for the Bambi story since I wondered what happened during the time after Bambi's mother died to Bambi becoming a young adult buck.
me too, I kinda wanted to know how he became so strong, I think this film answered that well
The midquel also introduced Ronno, the bully deer! We learned how he changed from a childhood bully into a dark monster in the first film! Bambi STILL pummeled him, since Thumper taught him to be brave, while his father trained him to defend himself!
You had me at Patrick Stewart.
SIR Patrick Stewart was the perfect voice for Bambi's father!
Criticism aside, let’s be real; this is WORLDS better than having nothing between Bambi’s mother dying and “Fa la la la~ Tweet-tweetity tweet-tweetity fa la la la~” 😂
Flower in this movie is voiced by the same kid who voiced Chowder. No joke!
Robert KC Cornell Really?! I can't tell if knowing that ruins my childhood or makes it that much cooler....
Morgan Gobin yep! Check IMDb!
YOU TAKE THE MOON AND YOU TAKE THE SUN
"liked that this was a jerky deer." Funny. i do like deer jerky.
Timothy Harris Because they taste good
Scarlett Bandit Aw, yeah, venison jerky is the best.
Timothy Harris Venison is really good. My dad would eat some when he'd get sick and it would help him feel better.
Would you like some from ONE OF THE MOST RELATABLE DEATHS EVER IN A DISNEY MOVIE?!?
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster Ha! That's a good one.
Oh, boy, Doug would probably hate watching Gotham.
Lugbzurg I don't think it's bad. it's unique
Thomas Meehan I feel like the can do anything. I mean it not connecting to any already existing batman story so I consider it a else world story. so they can be as creative as they want. I still stand by that their version of penguin is the best I've ever seen on media
I like Gotham mostly because it shows the Batman story from an entirely new angle while also managing to do it's own thing. My only real problem is, it crams in certain things that really shouldn't be happening until Batman's early years.
Agreed. The joker episode where he kidnapped bruce is pointless
Phoenix reborn yea uniquely bad
Beware Brother Bear 2; it's a bad mix of Mulan 2 and Hunchback 2.
now I'm scared
ztslovebird is it by another studio?
ztslovebird I kind of liked it
dear lord no... *que Vietnam flashbacks*
pfft, what? that was one of the best ones; it matched the original very closely and had nice animation. then again, if you didn't like the original, you'd hate the sequel 20X more
Wait!! 2001: A Space Odyssey has a sequel!!?? WTF?! I didn't know that! :P
It's a book series: 2001, 2010, 2061, and 3001. Only the first 2 have been made into movies tho
RaphGirl I wonder if they'll make those films in exactly at those years
If the movie had been as well done as the book, it would have been a lot better. Instead however it was turned into a cold-war tale, which 2010 the book was not.
#jtg
But how can one of the most popular sci-fi movies ever made have a unknown sequel like this?
Maybe it was just too overshadowed by the original movie! :P
It's pretty good too! Well worth a watch :)
I'm glad he liked this one, because this is one of my favorite Disney sequels. Heck, I watched it so much as a kid I can still recite it word for word, scene for scene now as an adult.
It's called a midquel, because it takes place after Bambi's mother's death and before he reaches adulthood!
Bambi 2 is probably the best of the Disney sequels as you can really tell that a lot of love and effort was put into it.
It's called a midquel, because it takes place after Bambi's mother's death and before he reaches adulthood!
This is one of the few Disney sequels I enjoyed. I remember seeing the deer-call scene and noticing how it sounded like his mother, and I thought that idea was just brilliant. Super chilling, but also a really good idea considering how deer must perceive deer-calls.
Fun Fact: this movie has the record for longest sequel made after the original. 64 Years!
2nd is Fantasia 2000 with 60 years.
3rd is Return to Oz with 46 years
and 4th is Christmas Story 2 with 29
Troopcaptain Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 was 60 years, if you count that
Yeah Christmas Story 2 is unnesscary.
SoLinkSmash did not release that sorry. I'll just edit that.
Troopcaptain, Bambi II is a midquel, because it takes place after Bambi's mother's death and before he reaches adulthood!
Can't believe we landed a probe on one of Saturn's moons before getting another Bambi movie.
"I think they're trying to make it seem like the bully is the deer he fights later on"
They have the same fucking name. What do you think?
CJSai#64 and guess where from Walt's team on the original film has taken it from ? The Felix Salten book they were adapting in the first place
In fairness, Ronno was never named in the first film itself. You needed to look at concept art or supplementary material to know it was meant to be him.
What do I think? It IS Ronno, and he was BORN a bully! He and Bambi fought as BOTH kids and adults, but Ronno couldn't win a fight against Bambi, because Thumper taught him to be brave, while his father trained him to defend himself!
Yay! He liked it! I always thought this helped with the one flaw the original masterpiece had; that complete change in tone after the mother is killed, to Bambi being an adult. This really helps bridge the gap. I actually enjoy popping out the first movie right after the mothers killed and Bambi meets his farther, watching this one, and then popping back in the first for "Twitter painted"!
There are three separate times during this movie where I ALWAYS end up in tears, 1. when bambii dreams of his mum, when bambii and his dad are playing in the river (Patrick Stewart says Woohoo, thats amazing on its own) and just after the climax, "I'm here". Oh my gawd. The tears never cease. lol! Absolutely adore this film!!
I've never seen this, but the way you showed and described that scene with the hunters' deer call makes it seem like a really bold choice by the writers. I respect that. I should check this out sometime!
"Batman after his parents died" Um isn't that large parts of Gotham?
This really makes me wonder what Doug would think of Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes! Finally. I've wanted Doug to review this flick for years. It's actually my favorite Disney sequel and I'm so glad he enjoyed it. But I gotta point out, I actually liked the songs. There is Life that was played at the begining of the movie is one of my favorite Disney songs and First Sign of Spring fits in perfectly with Bambi bonding with his dad. Aside from that, I liked this review. Kudos to you Doug.
I'm amazed at how many Disney sequels actually did well. Curse those bad ones that made me lose all faith in them! xP
Bambi II is called a midquel, because it takes place after Bambi's mother's death and before he reaches adulthood!
I remember watching this movie and thought it was a good film BUT I do have to agree that the scene where Bambi "supposedly" hears his Mother calling was actually both a bit chilling & a very clever idea.
This sounds like I would like it better than the first one, to be honest.
And that deer call sounding like his mother sounds fucking genius to me. That is so scary. It's like that two sentence horror story that's haunted me from wherever it is I first read/heard it from:
"You hear your mother calling you from downstairs.
But across the hall, you hear her voice again:
"Don't go. I heard it too." "
Plus, I just love Patrick Stewert's voice, so for that alone, I might watch it.
I freaking adored Bambi II as a kid. That scene Doug brought up with the hunter's whistle? That was my favourite scene from the movie. I found it so fascinating in that man had such an advantage over the deer, an almost mind-control level of hold over them. Ever since then the concept of overcoming adversity from a mental or psychological aspect has been a favourite to see.
However, I admit that Doug is right with the father. The film should've ended with Bambi and his father standing in the exact spot they did in the original, and Bambi questions his father on his stern nature throughout his childhood, and then we learn his reasons and see the former king of the forest go down to see the grandchildren up close, Bambi following behind him.
In the novel, the Great Prince is much more similar to Doug's ideal picture of him. He is distant and stern throughout the book, and Bambi just comes to accept that. Heck, it isn't until Bambi's an adult and his life's in danger that the Prince openly calls him his son.
Anyone else noticing that these sequels are slowly and slowly getting better as the month goes on?
When this Disneycember is over, I would like Doug to compile a list, ranking all the sequels from best to worst.
OK...
I haven't seen this one (tho after watching this review, that may change now), but that bit mentioned involving the deer call that sounds like Bambi's mother...holy shit, that is CLEVER, sad...and CREEPY AS HELL.
Fun Fact: Judge Doom from Who Framed Roger Rabbit was originally going to be revealed as the hunter who killed Bambi's mother.
Bambi's dad in the original film used to scare the piss out of me when I was a kid.
WOW! Bambi himself was shocked by his majestic and regal appearance! I, myself, was just plain shocked!
I think the movie should have been named "Bambi and the Great Prince of the Forest." That alternate title makes more sense and it was actually mentioned in a trailer before. There was even a book based on the movie that had that alternate title. I don't know how or why it had the 2 was put in instead.
The hunter call using bambi's mother's voice was such a messed up but brilliant scene. It added a new level of perspective on the hunter/hunted situation.
Why is it always the not really mainstream ones that are better?
Less "Assured fan base" to buy into it because of it's title, so they have to go out and try to win people by it's merit.
Bambi 2 is very pointless, but the animation looks good, anyone agree?
yep
I hate this movie. Yeah, I said it
I liked Bambi 2 more than the 1st one
Doug liked though. And so do EYE
I liked the 2nd one actually
Eh Bambi 2 is Ok.
Anyway Does anybody remember The Little Mermaid Animated Series?
nikosafer1 OH MY GOD FLASHBACK
I remember watching it, then it just dissapeard and was never heard from again.
I vaguely remember seeing it on playhouse Disney or Disney channel but it's just for a split second
The mute mermaid that used sign language was my fav from that series.
Ashley I remember that too
This is by far my favourite disney sequel so obviously im biased, but IM SO GLAD you appreciate the artistry and storytelling of this film. I think I had just assumed you'd rip into it because it wasn't the original, but all of your points were very mature and valid, and I agree with them! Bambi 2 was also the biggest inspiration for me becoming an animator, and now I am, so IT's a VERY personal film for me.
I always interpreted this movie as not just being a "dad tries to learn to be a dad" type, but also a movie where Bambi learns to cope with the fact his mom just died and the trauma he got from it. We see him looking longingly after his friends when they go off with their moms in the beginning, we see him go into the meadow (the place where his mom died) on the chance the call might be from her and she's alive only to freeze when the dogs show up and his dad sees the glare from the hunter's gun. Then we see him overcome it when his mom's friend who was going to take him in is caught in a trap and is shouting the exact same words his mom shouted to him before she died by taking the attention of the dogs off of her and even going out into the meadows to hide and fight back against them.
I dunno, but that's just my interpretation.
Also, yeah, the rival deer is supposed to be Ronno (the bully). I have a book of Disney stories retelling different movies from Snow White up until the end of the 90s, and Bambi is one of them. It was released before Bambi 2 and the rival deer was named Ronno in the book. The original book Bambi is based on also has the rival deer he encounters as an adult named Ronno.
Your interpretation is NOT wrong at all! BOTH Bambi and his father were equally devastated over Bambi's mother's death, and their relationship did NOT get off to a good start! The Great Prince sent Bambi away with Mena, because he was taught that it's the doe's job to raise fawns, and after Mena yelled Bambi's mother's last words, Bambi was determined not to let history repeat itself, and he helped his father save her life! After Bambi nearly died when he fell off the cliff, his father was forced to realize that "the old-fashioned way" is NOT always the best way, and that he needed to put his son first, and protecting the forest second! He loved his son more than anything else, and he FINALLY started showing it! As for Ronno, he was BORN a bully, and in the first film, he changed from a childhood bully into a dark monster! He couldn't win a fight against Bambi, because Thumper taught him to be brave, while his father trained him to defend himself!
Literally refreshed the video page until it appeared
Jasia C-W me too
i never really saw this one because other disney sequels ruined it for me.
i just saw the original films and left it at that
You should at least give it a chance. I didn't like it when I first saw it but I found a copy of it on TH-cam and they split the second ones in two. the first one and I thought it worked well.
what i love is that critic is trying so hard not to give this movie an A+ but can't seem to give it something lower so he goes with the A-.
props to you critic we love you.
I have been meaning to check this one out as Bambi is my second favorite Disney film.