The Problem With Walt Disney's Alice In Wonderland Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- Nearly all photoaged used in this video does not belong to me. My main goal was just to simply create an essay video.
Part 2 will just consist of Tim Burton Alice flim (coming out when?, I have no idea audio is about 20 mins)
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Carol’s original book has definitely garnered a following of pretentious critics who projected a little too much of their own perceptions and interpretations onto the material, when really, the author’s true intentions were just to entertain a little girl.
In a way, it’s almost become the opposite of “Gulliver’s Travels”, where the latter’s social satire has become generally regarded as a mere children’s book. It’s incredibly ironic.
I like the movie and think it is a good story
The book is better.
@@forrestdupre87 the book is more I depth, the movie is fun to enjoy if you forget Alice
@@MaryJane-ll8hi the 1949 stop motion version is the most accurate.
@@MaryJane-ll8hi There's a 107 facts video about Alice in Wonderland if you want more detail!!!!!
@@MaryJane-ll8hithey should have adapted the Savile clarke version from 1886 in that one Alice defends the knave of hearts with her song not guilty i declare.
there was also that bit from the play where the oysters became ghosts and trampled on the feet of the walrus.
it was approved by Lewis Carroll.
it’s ironic the Alice Lewis Carroll wrote about is nothing like the Alice he envisioned when writing Alice on the stage he described her as loving and gentle courteous to all.
I always thought this movie was a more trippier Wizard of Oz .
In my opinion, I think American McGee adapted the Alice in Wonderland story the best
Yes, this version of the story in the game is twisted and dark as hell, but the whole "defining flaws in our society" is definitely understood the best when it is sharpened and makes a lasting traumatic impression when told as a psychological horror story.
This movie has always been one of my all time favorites, but even before I'd read the book, I always wondered why no one had sympathized with her in Wonderland if it was supposedly *her* world. I was honestly surprised to know that the movie was going for a message about being careful what you wish for because i didn't see it like that at all when I'd first watched the film. I always viewed it, especially after reading the books, as a fantasy/self-fulfilling world for Alice.
....The cat's name is Dinah.
Through the Looking Glass is a much better fever dream. Lol
I love Alice trying so hard to do things in the shop and failing over and over again because reality keeps mocking her. Get got, rich kid.
This is in my top 5 classic Disney movies tbh. It's so artistic and abstract at times, it really lends itself to Wonderland's chaos.
huuhhhh Alice is my favourite Disney film wym, there’s a plot, alice is charming and flawed, a little defiant and cheeky yet obviously has some behaviours adopted from adults who clearly talk to her - I’ve always loves that it was jokey and fantastical but mostly an interesting story about a girl that does NOT revolve around having a love interest. I love alice in wonderland.
5:10 Her cat’s name is Dinah
Yeah sorry, I had some trouble speaking when recording. This was my first time doing an essay.
I thought you spoke fine otherwise 🙂
There was nothing wrong with Alice in Wonderland. It is perfect.
definitely one of my favorite animated movies!! this video was great :)
Thanks, I figured I make this video since there’s not that many video essays on Alice.
Part 2 will consist of Tim Burton 2010 movie. Might be a while but definitely stay toon in if you want to see that
@@MaryJane-ll8hi i saw a comment that the tim burton version of alice in wonderland is a sequel to the 50's film like there are literal versions of alice in wonderland.
Oddly enough, both Alice and Wendy Darling had the same voice actress!
This video is how I learned the older girl in the film was Alice's sister. I always thought she was a governess.
Still my favorite movie ever
Awesome video! Amazing in-depth analysis, good editing! Can't wait to see more from you :D
I love Walt Disney's Alice in Wonderland. Just from the look of the backgrounds and animations, it's gorgeous. I get annoyed that people think movies always need an overarching plot or moral. It's boring.
I think your critique of Disney shoving in a "be careful what you wish for" moral is thoughtful but overall, it's good they stuck with the book. The problem is changing it *too much* not *too little*
I remembered that this movie is on Disney plus and it's also in the program Once Upon a Studio. As a matter of fact, this is my first favorite Disney movie along with Mary Poppins. I remembered that on the masterpiece version of this movie, it's the Mickey Mouse cartoon Thru the Mirror.
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Yea, I liked the movie, but it's really just a C+, meaning good but not great, I mean it's not as weak as The Sword in the Stone, but it's the one I like the 2nd least from the Silver Era, I mean I like the wonderland part of it with all the characters, but I felt it didn't really give a strong enough story, but it had enough good humor to where I could give it a like, but it's on the light level of like.
Great work!
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You know, I’ve never head of anyone disliking this movie before.
You have a neat perspective. I disagree entirely, as Alice in Wonderland is my favorite silver age Disney film. However, it's interesting to hear what you think its shortcomings are as I never thought of them myself.
Same here, I didn’t think about them untill I saw other people reaction and went back to watch it after such a long time.
It’s still a fun movie.
Well, Walt Disney himself was not pleased with how this film turned out, so I’m surprised that this is the first you’ve heard anyone disliking it. LOL I agree that it’s not one of Disney’s worst by any means, but I personally wouldn’t rank it in my Top 10 Favorite Disney movies. In my honest opinion, “Peter Pan” is the better Silver Age Disney film. But, I can somewhat see the appeal and can understand why some people like this film. 😄
in the book shes 7! in the movie she looks 13 or 14
Very informative and engaging love it!
The book is meant to have no meaning so why should the movie have? I don’t think is has to. And it’s more believable, that in her dream Alice reflects the real world. All somehow off, but still a childish reflection. Not the world she would have dreamed of but the world she has a dream about. There is nothing to learn, nothing to achieve. Just a dream on an afternoon nap.
Its one of my faves
i think that alice in wonderland 1950 version is supposed to be like the louis Carroll version but isn't, it's just alice walking around in wonderland and talks to dinah her cat in the real world.
i like the book version of alice rather the movie version of her.
This is my favorite movie of the Silver era, but I'd say one thing that hasn't aged very well is the repeated upskirt shots of a girl who's like 11 years old. I guess it was forgivable back then because not as many people simped over animated characters back in the 50s, so I can't really blame Walt Disney or anyone on that movie's development team for this, but it's still something that hasn't aged well, because it makes a child way too easy for people to sexualize.
I don't think that's really their fault, though. I mean, when animating kids, adult animators are required to draw every part of them - including scenes that can raise eyebrows when taken out of context. It all boils down to the intention of the scene.
For example... I recall a scene in "My Neighbor Totoro" where the two girls take a bath with their father, but the intention is meant to be an intimate bonding moment between the family since bathing together is a casual thing families do in Japan. Does that make it poorly aged in that same regard? Sometimes, the story needs to come first.
It was a movie ahead of its time.
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I do concede it has its issues but it is genuinely weird to me how the fandom so disowns it more than even The Black Cauldron or Chicken Little or Home on the Range, any of which have more issues than Alice ever did. It lost money for the studio, sure, but so didn't Sleeping Beauty, Fantasia, and Treasure Planet...
I’m pretty sure that “Chicken Little” and “Home On The Range” are universally hated more than “Alice In Wonderland” is.
It’s my favorite one
i watched this every day sometimes twice when i was little it was made in 1951 so it shouldnt be adapted to how kids like today. in the 80s we were supposed to be boring and dainty
Don’t you think Disney Tarzan failed?
As a child, I'd read the book, and I'd seen the animated movie. Back then, I enjoyed both. When my sister was a child, we both enjoyed the movie. But now, as an adult, I can see why the movie was flawed. My mom had told me that Lewis Carroll was a mathematician, so the book was supposed to be based on skewered logic. But then the Walt Disney Studios had come along, and turned it into a cutesy, nonsensical movie. Now, I have nothing against Disney. But clearly, the movie was unfaithful to the book. I suppose Disney wanted a simplified version of the book, for audiences to understand. Charles Solomon, the author of The History of Animation, had mentioned that the movie didn't fare well with British audiences, and I can see why. They take their literature very seriously.
I would also have to agree that in this version, Alice wound up as lonely as she did at the beginning of the movie. Her sister was cold and calculating towards her, and her only friend was her cat, Dinah. She imagined Wonderland to be a place where she could be accepted and find a sense of belonging but found no real connection or solace. The Wonderland characters are mainly antagonistic towards her, except for the Chesire Cat, and the Un-Birthday party doesn't feel earned. At the end, her sister didn't even try to understand her fantasy. "Caterpillar? What are you talking about? Oh, come along. It's time for tea." She and her sister had no real connection, either.
Clearly, this movie would've been better, if it had been more fleshed out.
Aside from "Alice in Wonderland" being unfilmable, it already had a distinctive look, due to the original illustrations, which the Disney artists completely ignored. And you can't replace the topsy-turvy logic of the prose with sight gags and mediocre songs.
Night on the Galactic Railroad is also kinda the thing of unfilmable due to not knowing what the characters look and so they use the manga adaption with the cats as the protagonist and this movie won a price.
@@sailorsagittarius8526i think i know how the characters look like i have been researching outside of John Tenniel.
I think they tried their best with what they had. Replicating the original illustrations would’ve been way too difficult to animate with the budget they had at the time (hell, they would’ve been too much to handle even before the war), so they simplified the designs to make it easier for the animation staff.
Also, I disagree on the sight gags and songs undermining the book’s topsy-turvy logic. If anything, they’re the best resources of conveying the story’s surrealist nature to the audience without resorting to boring exposition. Film is an entirely different medium from literature; you need to utilize its greatest strengths when adapting a work since adhering too much to the original text can create problems in the immersion. I mean… compare Kubrick’s “The Shining” with the TV miniseries adaptation - the latter may be more faithful and informative to the original book, but it’s incredibly slow, monotonous, and far less engaging and scary as a result.