Richard, the Camel Trophy was a competition among countries, not vehicle manufacturers. In fact, between 1981 and 2000, the last year it was held, Land Rovers were the only vehicles used and they were heavily modified by Land Rover Special Vehicles. I'm not sure this proves LR's superiority over Toyota if that was your point.
I found this list of modifications included in many of the vehicles in the camel trophy: Safety Devices roll cages Under body protection and steering guards Modified electrical systems Winches Dixon Bate tow hitches and recovery points Mantec snorkels Transmission breathers Michelin XCL or BF Goodrich Mud Terrain tyres Upgraded suspension and transmission components Auxiliary fuel tanks Webasto fuel burning heaters Brownchurch / Safety Devices roof racks Hella driving, spot, fog, convoy and work lamps Brownchurch Bull bars and bush wires
Pete, they also say "you have a penchant for women's underwear, and secretly desire Margaret Thatchers crochet collection" - but it doesn't necessarily make it true does it. Look at all of the Land rovers in service with the forces.
The answer is no, it's all MOJO. The RR is unreliable and as crap for resale. They really aren't in direct competition. G Wagon? Try keeping one on the road after the warranty expires. The Cruiser and LX sell combined 8000 a year, every one of them that isn't wrecked will be on the road in 25 years. Try that with RR or MB.
There's little doubt that the Land Cruiser is the most reliable of the three but reliability isn't the only reason to buy a car. Take a look at the new styling of the Camry: th-cam.com/video/BBS1SD23P1A/w-d-xo.html Even Toyota recognizes that car needs to be more than just reliable to be successful and lust worthy.
People who buys Range Rover or Benz probably won't care all that much about the cost of fixing up stuff and resale value. Plus they not going to drive the car for 25 years, five year max. Don't use your way of living to judge rich people's life style, you won't understand their world if you are not there.Just saying.
Watching this video I'm convinced 100% that Roman 1. Doesn't know how to Offroad 2. Doesn't know how to pull people out when there stuck3. Doesn't know how to use the vehicles he tests4. Is biased to certain vehicles and misconceptions without proof5. Doesn't give subjective reviews6. Nathan and the Russian guy should be doing all the reviews
Based on the Tundra? Where did TFL get that from? Not at all. The Tundra was designed in Detroit while the LC200 was designed in Japan. They do share the 5.7L engine in north america but that is about it. Am I the only one who feels like this vehicle wasn't reviewed correctly? Here are a few things I don't think were appropriate: 1-The platform is not shared with the Tundra 2-Sales: while the sales are low in the USA, keep in mind the number of vehicles made available by Toyota for sale in the US is very low. The LC200 is sold on every continent., unlike the Tacoma, Tundra and 4Runner that are made for North America. 3-Off road capability: this is one of the most capable vehicle in the world, just watch a few videos from the Australian outback or overlanders going around the world while towing a heavy trailer off road. Watch the guys from All4Adventure using modified LC200s for example. 4-They didn't put emphasis on the vehicle's number 1 attribute, reliability. This attribute is partly due to the fact that the United Nations (UN) are one of the largest customers of these vehicles and require them to last in the worst conditions in the world. 5-Capacity to be modified for off road: in a smiliar what there are tons of off-road after market parts for Jeeps, the land cruiser
The Tacoma is just a modification of the Toyota Hilux, which is just just about everywhere else. The 4Runner is an SUV version of the Tacoma body and I think that Toyota makes an SUV version of the Hilux.
totally agree! I own a landcuriser turbo diesel 650 NM torgue, shit review, these things are built for the bush, nobody buys the petrol version, what a idiot! I get about 9km per litre of fuel pretty good stats..
Most biased Americans would never admit Lexus and Toyota are the most reliable vehicles money can buy, i feel so sorry for their ignorance and stubborness
Diego Lijeron True lol but we can't put them all in the same boat hence why i wrote "most Americans", I heard that Trump will cure all cancers and diseases and will solve all of the world's problems, he will make everything better again lol
There is also something to be said about "Stealth Wealth" - Range Rovers, G-Wagons et al attract a lot of eyes. There is also something to be said about the engineering goals and durability standards of Land Cruisers. Not to mention the assembly line that they are built on in Japan has some of the most skilled workers Toyota has to offer. The Land Cruiser crowd are a faithful and loyal bunch, for good reason.
If you were to drive from Anchorage, AK to Cape horn in Argentina, would you dare drive a G550 or a Range Rover? I would bet no one in their right mind would drive anything but the Land Cruiser. Mojo?? I call that Mojo.
People who buy the Toyota Land Cruiser over a G Wagon and a Land Rover buy it because of its amazing reliability really good resale value, compared to the other vehicles.
There's a reason a Land Cruiser holds its residual value while a Range Rover doesn't hold it worth squat. I've 2 of the 3 last versions of Range Rover (bought new) and they were wonderful cars to drive. Unfortunately, they spent weeks in the shop over the course of a year. I finally got fed up and started looking at Land Cruisers. I picked up a new 2012 LC and have put 172,000 miles on it with not a single problem and only ever goes to the dealer for scheduled maintenance. When I would off-road up the mountains above Silverton, CO (Alpine Loop) and the last place I wanted was a vehicle that was going to give me problems. The Land Cruiser never has.
Craig L no point trying to convince this biased oldie of the capabilities of such a revered vehicle. He is only concerned with the American market in his little bubble! He can’t not hate on Toyota because he doesn’t do his research which reminds me: Ignorance is bliss!
Honestly, I'm sure most G-Wagen and Range Rover buyers aren't cross shopping for a Land Cruiser. Those types of buyers are searching for a more luxurious experience and the brand name. Range Rovers are far less reliable, but they still sell a lot of them because their customer base wants the nicest SUV they can get and don't care about long-term durability since they're likely to upgrade to a newer model before the warranty runs out. People going for the Land Cruiser likely know about their superb reliability. They're willing to sacrifice having a less luxurious experience for something they know will treat them well and can still go off-road. Granted, not many of those types of buyers exist and it's reflected in the sales figures. It will be interesting to see Chrysler entering this market once the Grand Wagoneer comes out.
This dude gets it. Working at a JLR dealer, 99.99% of customers couldn't care less about the off road capability. The closest their vehicles get to being off road is their gravel driveways.
in america maybe, but in australia, landcrusiers are everywhere here. you mainly only see rr evoque if you want to find a rr and you will most definitely only find a couple of g wagon.
Eric Ortiz if you want a real luxury SUV you don't buy a Land Cruiser, you buy à Range Rover. If cars aren't a passion and you need a SUV to going hunt you can buy a Land Cruiser
Very true. Land Cruiser is for reliable off road and long distance overlanding ability, while Range Rovers are for city driving (and old people lol) and people able to have their car in the shop without it bothering them.
Why do you hate toyota vehicles? They are honestly the best and the most durable cars in the world. Comparing a range and a g wagon to a land cruiser? The land cruiser would shit on both these shitty overly expensive cars
He doesn't hate Toyota. If you've watched any other previous vids, he usually praises them. The 200 series isn't a bad vehicle, it just doesn't really have much of a place in today's vehicle market.
You're comparing the well-built and capable Land Cruiser to the over-hyped and overpriced G wagon??? I'm almost shocked you didn't mention Escalade in the same sentence too. You pay hardly any attention to the details of what you are reviewing but are very quick to inject your personal opinion. Your job in front of that camera is to be critical and unbiased, and yet you have hardly mentioned anything about the vehicle itself. Educated buyers do their homework. I put in the effort when I visit the dealership and get to know the vehicle, it's handling, features, quirks, comfort, controls, driving experience... This video is about as helpful as a 4-minute 4-right-turn dealer test drive. Thumbs up for the Land Cruiser and thumbs down for Roman.
The G is def overhyped for off road ability. It's heavy, has a very bad CoG, has basically a fake bull bar, comes with street sport tires for some reason, has bad breakover angle due to the exhaust and overall luxury wise is pretty meh. Most of this stuff is fairly fixable but then you're spending an extra several thousand to upgrade a $130,000+ SUV when you could buy a Land Cruiser 200 + lift, armor, tires, etc. or a Raptor or something
signs Stock, it out offroads nearly every oem vehicle available. it handles a wide array of reasonable (read that as "what new car owners consider off-road) terrain well. Obviously, my long arm xj will out wheel it, but it works well...Especially amongst its real competition...The "baby elephant SUV that can also go to aspen" segment of the market. interior is nice, looks like a Kardashian car(a plus in some circles), etc. yes, it is sent with garbage tires, but that is market wants over engineering. Their customers don't want a/t tires, they associate them (incorrectly) with true off-road tires and therefore howl.
You are obviously biased towards the Land Cruiser. Sure it is a gold car. But the G wagon too. And dont compare the G wagon to the Escalade. The G wagon is military grade and if you look under it you can see that it has more in common with an Unimog than with a regular SUV.
Lest we forget the terrible fit and finish of the G Wagon. Door gaps so wide you can read the factory stickers inside the door when the door is closed.
Um, Roman, it is by FAR the most reliable, capable trucks on earth. Period. Ask an Australian or an African about the 200. Oh, and everywhere else, you'll get a Diesel. Then you can take it round the world with great range.
Was this a review? You've spent the first half of the video talking about other trucks, and the rest trying to pull out a range rover not even using the low range (or were you)? Why don't you think it's good offroad? You didn't show any tests at all, you didn't talk about the crawl modes, the low range, the turning circle helper. I'm really curious why you phoned this one in. Lazy, sloppy, and poorly done.
yeh agree man i have a 200series, what an idiot who buys the petrol version?? twin turbo diesel V8 650NM torque rest my case!! these are reliable and put simply the best off road vehicle in the world
this guy lives in his dreamworld i guess. hey man could somewone please tell him what Land cruiser stands for. i would rather buy a Land cruiser with no doors and no Tires, than any other so called offroaders.this car owns respect.
If you travel the world with G Wagon or Range Rover, make sure a Land Cruiser follows you. The Land Cruiser has to tow both to the next mechanic. Land Cruiser may not be as "fancy" looking as either, but it gets the job done better than any other vehicle. I personally like the LX570 more as I think it has a much better interior though.
Beg pardon if this is already mentioned in one of the 600+ comments preceding this one. . . . There is SOOO much incorrect information given in this video. Roman, I lost a lot of respect for you on this one. The 200 Series LC is not a shared platform with the Tundra, nor do they have the same engine. The Tundra and the Sequoia, both vehicles designed, marketed, and built in the US for the North American market, share the same basic platform. If you look at photos of the Tundra/Sequoia taken from underneath and compare to photos of the LC200 from the same angle, you'll notice that there is NOTHING common between them other than rear axle assembly. The suspension of the LC200 has far greater articulation than the Tundra/Sequoia. The engines are similar, but the Tundra/Sequoia engines are built in the US with different components than the Japanese built engines of the LC200. I am embarrassed for you showing the footage of you bumbling and making excuses for your uninspiring efforts to retrieve the stuck RR. I am also embarrassed for you given the complete 180 you have taken given your previous praise given for this vehicle in earlier videos. As your channel has grown, you have become a complete shill for whoever is willing to dole out the cash. Your technical knowledge is limited, and it's obvious you only parrot whatever information you're given by others. I agree that you should let Andre and Nathan handle making the videos.
Viren S ha! 60 k/h in 7 seconds maybe! Stock they do 0-100k/h in about 10 sec. Which is a slug. The 6 speed slushbox doesn't help. Toyota didn't even bother making the 8 speed for the diesel!
Viren S launched? Off a cliff maybe? Do you mean stalled up? It makes maybe 0.5 second difference. They run a 19 sec 1/4 when stalled up. The diesel is a slug. The 5.7 is quicker, smoother, nicer to drive and lag free. Why would anyone buy the diesel?
luv toyota period! my dad has a 96 t100! still runs like its brand new! i got a 04' toyota tundra never had a problem with it! my moms got a toyota priva van 94 awd no issues! toyota makes reliable vehicles! you pay for what you get!
I had to stop watching the video just to post this comment. Roman you're everything I hate about a lot of journalists. Your clear bias and lust for everything German is so obvious it makes these "reviews" lack credibility. But hey, just so you know, the LC doesn't have to sell well, at 80k 3,000 sales a year is plenty. And even if it wasn't selling that much, Toyota doesn't offer this car for sales, it's about heritage, why else do you think the LC got an update before the sagging Sequoia? Furthermore, your comment at the end of the video is damn near infuriating. So essentially, you don't think the LC is luxurious OR a good off-roader. You might be the only person in this world that think the LC doesn't have a level of sophistication about it. This is the reason why I take every TFL review with a grain of salt. You want more credibility, go to MT or C&D or even more small time reviewers like Redline Reviews. I'm convinced that you and Nathan are incredibly bias and often times have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
I bet the maintenance costs are a lot fuckin lower on the Toyota Land Cruiser vs the Gwagon/Range Rover. You might argue someone who can afford a Land Cruiser should be able to maintain the Gwagon/Range Rover - but that isn't always the case.
In Venezuela we love Land Cruisers so much that Toyota of Venezuela continued to produce the 80 Series Land Cruisers until 2007 and FJ70s till '09. Without a doubt one of the best vehicles for off roading
That's a pretty shitty, baseless review. Good luck getting back from the trail in a Land Rover product! Not to mention the resale value, or lack thereof! They are a frigging joke. My cruiser always brings my family home, no matter what.The cruiser does not need your endorsement, after all. It sells to a select group of individuals who are not interested in attracting unwanted attention and only want a high quality, all-purpose, go anywhere vehicle.
joseph billman they say you can take a Land Rover or a Jeep deep into the jungle but if you want to come back out you take a Toyota, their superior reliability is legendary and can't be beat hence why you only see Land Cruisers in the most inhospitable and harshest environments on earth
Thats what we recover everyday up here in the North. Tip: with that much space: hook up the strap to the rear passenger side Wheel, and pull it 90 degrees (no gas/ no brakes/ no turning the wheels from the LandRover) - that way you turn the Landrover on to the plowed road, with both rear tires - its much easier to finish the recovery that way. Cheers from Scandinavia
Not really. When the vehicle is in the ditch like that its mostly hung up on snow and there will not be additional damage to the wheels etc. Of course its best to make the desicion and judgement of how to get the car free from time to time - but most of the times when the car is stuck like that a little 90 degree jank with the strap to the wheel will ease it up and make the recovery much easier.
the point of making LC200 is to go to the middle east the higher seals is in the middle east in here we have 4 engins we have a V6 4.0 V8 4.8 diesel V8 4.5 with twin turbo and The 5.7 even we have more options on the car like a modified suspension a 20" inchs wheels a sport body kit drive mode : Sport, sport+ , comfort , eco and the start price is 56,000$ cuz we have a lower optins and the road here is full of land cruiser
Austin H, uhm, no.. He'd be one of the many knowledgeable people. Sadly, the clueless sheep with zero automotive understanding are way more percentage-wise, that's why he'd be one of the actual few smart people to do the right thing; LR's are utter crap and obviously people do know this fact. That makes me kind of faithful in humanity.
Frank White, right. He still be one of the few people that chose a land cruiser over the competition. Period. 3000 annual sales is extremely low. Those are facts.
No one gives a damn about the American market sales. Are you kidding me, or are you kidding yourself? The Land Cruiser only made its way over there recently, with only the 200 series available, and with only 1 engine choice. So this means nothing. Check out countries that do actual offroading on cultural base, countries with rugged terrain and inhospitable landscapes. Check out markets that actually have them for many years now, and have the full range of LC's. Land Cruisers (and Toyota's as a whole) are sold in the millions worldwide. And again, this doesn't even mean much. What's even more important is their reliability (waaaaaay out of the LR's league, and pretty much everyone else' for that matter), capability (again, pretty much untouchable), resale value (untouchable, specially by the most depreciating company known to man - LR), and other meaningful things. That's what's important. At least to people that know what a motorized vehicle actually is! Those are facts. I would also suggest checking out Lexus sales in the US, since that's what's more concentrated for the respective market, if the numbers are that important to you. Don't be as moronic as the clueless sheep out there and actually think with your own head, thanks.
Frank White, sure? I still have my 2010 HSE Lux with 75k original miles and I've had zero issues. We have two other LR products in my extended family. No issues. No one needs to defend LR, they're doing just fine without you. The LC sales in 2000 were 15k units in the US. After 2004 they have never gone back in to the 4000 unit range. It just isn't popular here. It's most popular in Australia. I know what I am talking about, we own a Toyota dealership here in the states and they don't sell. Not saying they aren't good trucks but they still don't sell. I'm happy with my RR. You be happy with you LC. If you even own one.
Roman can you stop reviewing Toyota! All I hear from you is bashing them. Comparing the land cruiser to the G wagon that is 50k more is stupid. Have you even driven in the G wagon it's so stiff no where near as comfortable as the land cruiser. Then say the Range Rover is better hmm 🤔 last time I check Range Rover are a joke due to their horrible reliability and horrid resale value. By all means choose the Range Rover and get stuck in the middle of no where. That means we won't see you post anymore shitty reviews. Overall most bang for your buck is the land cruiser and if you care about brands go to the Rover or g wagon. This is a beast.
this is the best offroad car for todays standard, you getting a lot for your money and the most important thing is toyotas reliability. check out what they are doing with this can at saudi arabia
You forgot something, the Range Rover it's not a reliable vehicle, the opposite happens with the land cruiser, and is more comfortable and stronger than the Range Rover
Logical Engineering, absolutely. Next one will be super charged, the power is good in the NA 5.0l but who doesn't want more? We have two others in my extended family. 2014 RR Sport and a 2015 RR supercharged. 15 has 30k miles, no issues and the 14 has close to 50k miles, no issues. We've owned models from the mid 2000's and I can't say we were as lucky with those but the Tata rovers have all been pleasantly surprising.
Austin H , well brother or you've been lucky or they really improved their quality. I've had a RR and a Discovery, the discovery was ok but the RR used to be more at the shop that in my house, and my sister had a 2004 RR and had lots of problems to, by the other hand they are very confortable, beautiful and sexy looking. I wouldn't buy one you can understand why I've had a land cruiser for 10 years and never had any problems. Now I have a Porsche Cayenne and I'm super happy with it...
The thing is that Land Cruisers, outside the US sell in the equivalent amounts as Escalades, Tahoes and Yukons combined, so Toyota is definitely making a killing off the 200 Series. Maybe it doesn't appeal to the American Market as much as GM's SUV's, Range Rovers, G-Wagons, because it wasn't really made for the American Market. So the answer to the question is no. The Land Cruiser still has its MOJO, now more than ever
I don't think the Land Cruiser should be compared to those two. The LC was made for occasionally needing to go off road or occasionally needing to tow something say on the farm. The MBG was made from a military grade vehicle with constant off road encounters so it really isn't apples vs apples. The RR doesn't do well in the longevity test regarding electronics and their fancy shmancy air suspension. So I still say the Japanese have won this.
Roman, when you have so many hate comments you know you've achieved your own style and personality as a reviewer. You were my first car reviewer I watched so kind of a benchmark, even though I'm not watching these that much any more.
Yeah, how many 300k mile range rovers are out there? Reliability, performance, steadiness, consistency. These are the hallmarks of land cruisers. No one passes RRs from generation to generation, nor the G-Wagens. These reviews bug normally, but dude, if you're going to talk about a heritage vehicle, truly understand the vehicle.
Well also these folks never look beyond the skin. There are articles talking about the engineering that goes into LC's. They are engineered with a 25 year life span in mind. They come with SS exhausts from the factory, they have thicker windshields, beefier axles and spindles. Overall they put a lot more into the vehicle to ensure it lives a longer life. All things an average reviewer tends to forget for some reason. Oh well.
Love that there is a lot of hate four this car, which I own. Talked to a few different people at my office that own range rovers, yes they do love them, now. But not after they had to shell out thousands of dollars fixing them. One lady has had the engine replaced after she bought the car, because it crapped out. Leaking from the doors, electrical problems. She had a rental for a while, why? Because it was in the shop. Granted my vehicle has had issues. One only, radiator blew up, which seems to be a common problem. Replaced it myself and is back on the road. 108k miles on the odometer, still running, still performing. No issues. Gas guzzler, yes. Does the family prefer going on the second car, not a chance. I wished for better mileage, yes. But nothing else. RR and benzos are pretty, I'll give them that, but after doing my homework, I'll stick to what I have. Just my opinion. Let those that DON'T have one, start the crap talking. When you own either one, tell us your real story.
I don't wanna be rude, but You guys don't know much about off-raoding. Come to Aus or watch a few videos to see what we put the Land-cruisers through. They're tough, capable and most importantly very very reliable. The spare parts are also available in remote areas.
the g wagon and range Rover are no longer really off "roadable" they will break when pushed every 2nd vehicle here is a 200 series the other is a 79 you guys really miss out on the twin turbo v8 deisel tho
First of all a stock Land Cruiser will go places a Range Rover will never go, second of all the after sales price on a Land Cruiser are extremely cheaper than on a Range Rover, third of all I'll send you my Land Cruiser through FedEx if you keep a Range Rover running for more than 3 years without any problems that will cost you a shit tone of money.
You're lucky because my neighbor repaired the hydraulic system on his HSE 3 times this year (2014 model bought from the dealership), my Dad bought a 2010 Land Cruiser VX.R and a 2010 Prado VX.L (both from the dealership) and the only thing we repair is the AC (because of the heat in Dubai), and we're now shipping our Prado to our home country knowing it's a car that'll stay handy for a long time...
My wife could have done this review. Gee I don't like the profile. Gee, these 3rd row seats are a bit of a pain but golly the split tailgate is pretty handy. I was looking at this video for impressions as I am sick of the unreliability of my late model Suburban LTZ and want something bullet proof: incredibly reliable, able to haul my crew, pull a boat, and get through the white stuff. This vehicle has all of that. What I haven't seen down at the boat ramp is someone trailering a 24' Cobalt with a LR or a G-Wagon. The cost of admission is steep and the cost of ownership in relation to fuel is not wonderful. But I'll take the LC over the GW any day of the week. And you can keep the LR/RR entirely.
Whenever I see a vehicle stuck in slippery conditions like that and the vehicle is on a slanted ground towards the ditch, I say to my self "why are they trying to recover the car in the traditional way, i.e. pulling from front or rear STRAIGHT???". Pulling it at n angle was right, but not from the rear, since the vehicle was already head covered. You should have pulled at an angle from the front the first time. Plus, try next time to straighten the rope and keep people clear specially when you don't have something to cover it
Mick Loney the 0-60 time is faster in the diesel than a lx570 and uses half the fuel doing it. They effortlessly drag 8000lb trailers around Australia without fault for 200k+ miles.
What an embarrassment . Here you are reviewing at 4wd and can't even drive one . Get some experience in 4wd and then do a review. I own 2 Landcruisers a 200series and an 80series they are both great . You forgot 1 thing . If your driving around the world you will need a reliable truck and access to spare parts of which Land Rovers and Benz are extremely expensive and hard to get unlike Toyota . Toyota is the ultimate in reliability in this Country of Australia. Don't even get me started on American SUVs #rubbish
seriously every point this guy makes against it are twice as strong arguements for the G class and RR that he sucks off, and he doesn't even mention reliability. maybe some find it ugly but that's the only reasonable arguement be made against it. the land cruiser is a semi luxurious, reliable off-road vehicle its not supposed to be lathered in chrome like your goofy ass range rovers.
Román your vídeo is exactly the reason why it's the #1!!!! Never brakes down and the v8 diesel exceeds all engines(gas). The model is the best in it's segment worldwide except the US becuase you dont have really bad roads
Sure, stock it's pretty vanilla. Now, add some 34" tires and upgraded/higher suspension I'm now taking it everywhere my 4Runner Trail went. I love my 200!
Maddog8148 At that price point you should get a loaded Yukon Denali or a loaded Cadillac Escalade, I keep hearing that according to many many Americans they are much better and more reliable vehicles than any Toyota
guy proulx The Yukon Denali is a very nice vehicle the Escalade is basically the same thing but very much upgraded on the interior. But it's also 25K more
Maddog8148 But if you were buying one of these vehicles for 80k which one would you buy?, according to many Americans the Denali and Escalade are much better and more reliable than a Land Cruiser, if it was your money which one would you get? which one would you trust to take over landing all over this planet?
guy proulx - if I had to pick one I will probably take the GMC Yukon Denali that truck load is about $63k. The Escalade in the LanRover are both around $80-$90,000 which is a big difference. Personally that's a lot of money to spend on an SUV. When you talk $80,000 and up I will get more of a refined machine like a Porsche. The new Porsche 718boxster is a really nice piece of machinery for the money. That's just my opinion.
What the Toyota Land Cruiser is really about is long-term reliability and safety. It's a tank on wheels meant to last forever. Crown Victorias, Mack trucks and Caterpillars don't come cheap and might not be stylish but get the job done. In Mexico several military grade VR6 armored Land Cruisers, Suburbans and Grand Cherokees take on potholes and speed bumps on the road with ease.
I enjoyed the episode but it seems as though TFL isn't a fan of any of the styling Toyota offers. I do love this refresh they've done on the 200 series. I would enjoy seeing an optioned out Tahoe or a 4x4 Escalade compared with a 200 series. Most Range Rovers (not the sport variant) are similarly priced to the LC, are not any better in approach or departure angles by any substantial measure, and have very awkward sized tires to even find a good all terrain tire to fit. The G wagon is a great truck but it's at least $40k more and can be as much as $140k more than the LC and they still only sell roughly 3500 units during a good year. If I had $87k, I would have the LC! There's a ton of value in it compared to the rest of the market (IMO).
Thirsty? Really? At 15 mpg for a very capable off-road AND luxury vehicle with a proven and gutsy V8, I would consider it par for the course. If it didn't have the V8 or as powerful an engine, the complaint would be; not enough power. Americans are never content. I get the part about challenging the manufacturers but, this is still a top of the line SUV that isn't just a street queen. Land Rover is sexy? compared to what? That's very subjective and open for LOTs of debate. G-wagon badass? Why because rich people buy it to drive it down the streets of Beverly Hills? No sir, G-wagon is a heavy, powerful and while we're on the subject of thirsty? Let's talk mpg with that beast. Anyhow, back to the G-wagon; UGLY. Nothing pretty about the G-wagon and who can afford it? At least with the Land Cruiser, it's within the reach of many middle-class Americans. So when the G-wagon is ugly, you call it iconic styling? Gimme a break Roman, I'm throwing the BS flag on that. Call it what it is; UGLY. Range Rovers are handsome and refined not doubt, and very capable. I would say this directly competes with the Land Cruiser which is why the Cruiser has upped it's game in the luxury department and thus, the price. 22" inch wheels on the Rover is RIDICULOUS. Need driving lessons Roman? Try a snatch strap which should be in any off-road worthy vehicle. Traction on the snow and ice is not going to get that Rover that you yourself said isn't an off-road vehicle. Of course, it IS a different class than your LC however, lots of irony there. It drives like a BIG, HEAVY, SOMEWHAT cumbersome truck. Hmmmmm, like the G-wagon? No, I think not that big and cumbersome. All-season tires which are useless off-road and yet you just pulled a Rover out. It's kind of like the Rovers which come with 22" wheels and what's that? All season radials? C'mon man. Trail damage gonna get expensive; OK, I concede that on moderate to hard-core off-roading that is a good possiblity. However, Can we mention the direct competitors to this? How expensive is a Mercedes and Land Rover going to get? I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say, yeah, a LOT more expensive. I agree that you can't be great at off-roading and luxury unless you're willing to spend well into the 6 digit and above prices. But, in the market of today, who is buying these vehicles? Toyota has to provide for the demand of the market like everybody else and they do without losing it's off-road roots. Who drives these? I can honestly say that I have seen lots of soccer moms and Drs driving the Land Cruiser or it's Lexus brother the LX 570. Again, it's apparent you are scolding Toyota for not being the end all be all of off-road vehicles but, are you going to buy one without the modern amenities that you say make this vehicle expensive? C'mon man
I agree with some of your points Roman. I really wish Toyota just allow the LX to be the only three-row LUXURY truck based SUV and allow the Land cruiser take Sequoia's segment.
problems with this suv is that its to big for offroad use 4 runner will be more capable, only aussies and arabs love these landcruiser and last its a gas guzzler maybe toyota should consider bringing diesel v8 for this truck.
also depends on where you live and cost of fuel. In some states right now fuel is cheap as hell so it doesnt matter. Hence why people are still making the suburan, land cruiser etc.
You should see how well the landcruiser does in the middle east especially the desert countries. Range rovers r just as good here on the road and ofc hold their respect on the road but nothing beats a landcruiser or a nissan patrol off road (desert) not to mention reliability and resale value. Great review though. Hope you guys can join us in dubai for an off road adventure with arctic trucks.
Bahahaha!! talks about the Range rover being better than Toyota Land Cruiser. Then has to use the Land Cruiser tow out that worthless crap Range Rover from snow, then assumes that its stuck because it's got the wrong tires, and gets corrected by the owner of the Ranger Rover and says they're all season. Proving that he doesn't know what all season tires look like, and still doesn't know cars.Never, ever, Insult the legend like this again. compare the piece of shit range rover that beaks down and has the crappiest reliability of any vehicle. And the G wagon is a joke, you know it and I know it. It's the worst riding vehicle on the road, and has god awful handling, and the Land Cruiser OFFERS THE SAME LUXURY WITH BETTER readability. The Rang Rover its an electrical nightmare.
The US version of the LC200 is really about luxury. The Mid-East version of this has so many choices..All the way from 4.0 4.7 to 5.7 with so many options. Not as equipped as the US version but certainly more personality with a much cheaper price.
Here in Australia, the Land Crusier is the backbone on this country. So many people rely on their off-road vehicle. From work, to recreational. And I can honestly say the Cruiser out performs any competition, including the Land Rover. It's so widely used that it's one of the top selling vehicles. They're so popular that they come in many different styles and configurations, even with models from the 80's being remade and updated for modern use, such as the 70 series work mate. Many companies, such as ARB and TJM sell many after market and useful gear for these vehicles. The manufacturer (Toyota) also believes that Australia is one of the harshest environments, thus why they test everyone of their off-road models in the Australian outback. And trust me, it's harsh. What I'm trying to say is, if you want something reliable, tough and with a good life expectancy, go the Crusier. After all, us Aussies only used them for an odd 60 decades. We've got this far with them, they ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
I use to own a land rover and trust me it's nice and all but it's just one fucking expensive none reliable vehicle, and if it break well your fuck cause it's expensive to fix.... I'll take the Toyota any day cause they proven reliable and it's been tested it will run forever...
I own a 2018 79 series landcruiser and just purchased the 2020 vx landcruiser 200 Two of the best 4wd’s of the entire world,they are different but they both share the same dna there is no comparison
A newer Land Cruiser parked next to my 2003 Sequoia at Lowes some time ago. I was really surprised at how large the Land Cruiser has become. It appeared just as wide, nearly as tall but shorter in length.
In Australia buddy, we dont use the Petrol version, we use the twin turbo Diesel 650NM torque, best towing vehicle in the world not use for city, highest selling large SUV in the country. Bad ass SUV
Tires? Super important. I recommend Nokian WR G3 SUVs. I have these in 255/45R20 on my XC60 T6 and the non-SUV version in 235/50R18 on my wifes XC70 T6. Both have excellent traction in snow and on ice, I was expecting good performance but I've been very impressed.
Love the Land Cruiser but I'm very familiar with its 60 year history and have owned several of the models I definitely would take it over the Land Rover for reliability, offroad ability and resale. Great Overland platform just check out the Hema Maps 200 Series LC.
This is one of the best advertisements for genuine winter tires I have seen in a long time. I think we should all be glad you were not eaten by the wild mountain dogs that appeared half way through the video.
Him rescuing another vehicle is why I always go Toyota. Since I was a child we've rescued jeeps, fords, etc. from trails, pits and roadside in our Toyotas. It's great if you have all the fancy stuff inside, but I'd rather just buy a vehicle to get from point A to B and know it's going to get there.
Spot on! I have a very well equipt and locked 80. I needed to replace an aging '05 Duramax as I have a decent sized boat I need to tow here in AZ. I thought about a new LC, but got a '16 Power Wagon. Grin on face every drive. Not sure about the red grill and ask me in 10 years as the thing grenades thou, I'm sure Ill have a different opinion. ORD in Carbondale for the green squares' suspension. Hit them up. And 8.1 Vortec with a NV4500. Buddy in Pueblo has done several and has been featured in several 4wheeler rags. Tough part is finding the correct transfercase. He's got a '89, Burb from Denver, with that combo that is just cool! Very minty, but so is his '78 shortbed. Engineer for Navistar, so not your ordinary shade tree dude. Be interesting to do the Ike, and I'd be willing to bet he'd be more than up for it! You guys ever come to the Overland Expo in Flag?
They say "If you want to go in the jungle take a Land Rover, if you want to come out again take a Toyota"
Richard, the Camel Trophy was a competition among countries, not vehicle manufacturers. In fact, between 1981 and 2000, the last year it was held, Land Rovers were the only vehicles used and they were heavily modified by Land Rover Special Vehicles. I'm not sure this proves LR's superiority over Toyota if that was your point.
James Beaman they were not heavily modified at all.
I found this list of modifications included in many of the vehicles in the camel trophy:
Safety Devices roll cages
Under body protection and steering guards
Modified electrical systems
Winches
Dixon Bate tow hitches and recovery points
Mantec snorkels
Transmission breathers
Michelin XCL or BF Goodrich Mud Terrain tyres
Upgraded suspension and transmission components
Auxiliary fuel tanks
Webasto fuel burning heaters
Brownchurch / Safety Devices roof racks
Hella driving, spot, fog, convoy and work lamps
Brownchurch Bull bars and bush wires
Pete, they also say "you have a penchant for women's underwear, and secretly desire Margaret Thatchers crochet collection" - but it doesn't necessarily make it true does it. Look at all of the Land rovers in service with the forces.
Dakar vehicles are bespoke custom built machines, and if you have 800K, sure you might be able to cojole Toyota into building you one, but I doubt it.
The answer is no, it's all MOJO. The RR is unreliable and as crap for resale. They really aren't in direct competition. G Wagon? Try keeping one on the road after the warranty expires. The Cruiser and LX sell combined 8000 a year, every one of them that isn't wrecked will be on the road in 25 years. Try that with RR or MB.
There's little doubt that the Land Cruiser is the most reliable of the three but reliability isn't the only reason to buy a car. Take a look at the new styling of the Camry: th-cam.com/video/BBS1SD23P1A/w-d-xo.html Even Toyota recognizes that car needs to be more than just reliable to be successful and lust worthy.
I guess you might be a little prejudiced as the owner of a Land Cruiser yourself.
The Fast Lane Truck When will the poor Camry ever become successful? Sorry, I couldn't help myself. ;)
CMac That's so right ! 👍🏽💯
People who buys Range Rover or Benz probably won't care all that much about the cost of fixing up stuff and resale value. Plus they not going to drive the car for 25 years, five year max. Don't use your way of living to judge rich people's life style, you won't understand their world if you are not there.Just saying.
Watching this video I'm convinced 100% that Roman 1. Doesn't know how to Offroad 2. Doesn't know how to pull people out when there stuck3. Doesn't know how to use the vehicles he tests4. Is biased to certain vehicles and misconceptions without proof5. Doesn't give subjective reviews6. Nathan and the Russian guy should be doing all the reviews
I fully agree.
+lukestoyz reading this comment Roman says he's convinced that 1) you are a Toyota fanboy.
TFL You should ask Roman which vehicle he would trust to drive across the Sahara desert, a Jeep, a Land Rover, a G wagon or a Land Cruiser
+The Fast Lane Truck nice one :)
+The Fast Lane Truck nice one :)
Based on the Tundra? Where did TFL get that from? Not at all. The Tundra was designed in Detroit while the LC200 was designed in Japan. They do share the 5.7L engine in north america but that is about it. Am I the only one who feels like this vehicle wasn't reviewed correctly? Here are a few things I don't think were appropriate:
1-The platform is not shared with the Tundra
2-Sales: while the sales are low in the USA, keep in mind the number of vehicles made available by Toyota for sale in the US is very low. The LC200 is sold on every continent., unlike the Tacoma, Tundra and 4Runner that are made for North America.
3-Off road capability: this is one of the most capable vehicle in the world, just watch a few videos from the Australian outback or overlanders going around the world while towing a heavy trailer off road. Watch the guys from All4Adventure using modified LC200s for example.
4-They didn't put emphasis on the vehicle's number 1 attribute, reliability. This attribute is partly due to the fact that the United Nations (UN) are one of the largest customers of these vehicles and require them to last in the worst conditions in the world.
5-Capacity to be modified for off road: in a smiliar what there are tons of off-road after market parts for Jeeps, the land cruiser
Seriously i was like,wth?.I think its based on the Toyota Sequoia though.
Trumpet Friday sequoia is tundra based
The Tacoma is just a modification of the Toyota Hilux, which is just just about everywhere else. The 4Runner is an SUV version of the Tacoma body and I think that Toyota makes an SUV version of the Hilux.
totally agree! I own a landcuriser turbo diesel 650 NM torgue, shit review, these things are built for the bush, nobody buys the petrol version, what a idiot! I get about 9km per litre of fuel pretty good stats..
The 4Runner is based off the Prado 150.
At the end of the day the real winner is Land crusier
Most biased Americans would never admit Lexus and Toyota are the most reliable vehicles money can buy, i feel so sorry for their ignorance and stubborness
Then again those Americans voted for Trump....
Diego Lijeron True lol but we can't put them all in the same boat hence why i wrote "most Americans", I heard that Trump will cure all cancers and diseases and will solve all of the world's problems, he will make everything better again lol
guy proulx fuck you
Matthew Tyler Awwww did i hurt your feelings?
guy proulx You're an immature child
There is also something to be said about "Stealth Wealth" - Range Rovers, G-Wagons et al attract a lot of eyes. There is also something to be said about the engineering goals and durability standards of Land Cruisers. Not to mention the assembly line that they are built on in Japan has some of the most skilled workers Toyota has to offer. The Land Cruiser crowd are a faithful and loyal bunch, for good reason.
If you were to drive from Anchorage, AK to Cape horn in Argentina, would you dare drive a G550 or a Range Rover? I would bet no one in their right mind would drive anything but the Land Cruiser. Mojo?? I call that Mojo.
People who buy the Toyota Land Cruiser over a G Wagon and a Land Rover buy it because of its amazing reliability really good resale value, compared to the other vehicles.
And it looks great doing so imo. Honest old-school. Just what a SUV/Truck should look. It's the best. Would buy one so quick if I could.
There's a reason a Land Cruiser holds its residual value while a Range Rover doesn't hold it worth squat. I've 2 of the 3 last versions of Range Rover (bought new) and they were wonderful cars to drive. Unfortunately, they spent weeks in the shop over the course of a year. I finally got fed up and started looking at Land Cruisers. I picked up a new 2012 LC and have put 172,000 miles on it with not a single problem and only ever goes to the dealer for scheduled maintenance. When I would off-road up the mountains above Silverton, CO (Alpine Loop) and the last place I wanted was a vehicle that was going to give me problems. The Land Cruiser never has.
Craig L no point trying to convince this biased oldie of the capabilities of such a revered vehicle. He is only concerned with the American market in his little bubble! He can’t not hate on Toyota because he doesn’t do his research which reminds me: Ignorance is bliss!
Honestly, I'm sure most G-Wagen and Range Rover buyers aren't cross shopping for a Land Cruiser. Those types of buyers are searching for a more luxurious experience and the brand name. Range Rovers are far less reliable, but they still sell a lot of them because their customer base wants the nicest SUV they can get and don't care about long-term durability since they're likely to upgrade to a newer model before the warranty runs out.
People going for the Land Cruiser likely know about their superb reliability. They're willing to sacrifice having a less luxurious experience for something they know will treat them well and can still go off-road. Granted, not many of those types of buyers exist and it's reflected in the sales figures.
It will be interesting to see Chrysler entering this market once the Grand Wagoneer comes out.
This dude gets it. Working at a JLR dealer, 99.99% of customers couldn't care less about the off road capability. The closest their vehicles get to being off road is their gravel driveways.
in america maybe, but in australia, landcrusiers are everywhere here. you mainly only see rr evoque if you want to find a rr and you will most definitely only find a couple of g wagon.
Eric Ortiz if you want a real luxury SUV you don't buy a Land Cruiser, you buy à Range Rover. If cars aren't a passion and you need a SUV to going hunt you can buy a Land Cruiser
I agree 100%.
Very true. Land Cruiser is for reliable off road and long distance overlanding ability, while Range Rovers are for city driving (and old people lol) and people able to have their car in the shop without it bothering them.
Why do you hate toyota vehicles? They are honestly the best and the most durable cars in the world. Comparing a range and a g wagon to a land cruiser? The land cruiser would shit on both these shitty overly expensive cars
Tundras and land cruisers for life
Truth has been spoken. Roman is just clueless when it comes to reliability and offroadability.
I have watched a lot of off road videos with Roman and he seems very clueless about off roading and cars in general.
Chris Sarkis love u man, well said ; )
He doesn't hate Toyota. If you've watched any other previous vids, he usually praises them. The 200 series isn't a bad vehicle, it just doesn't really have much of a place in today's vehicle market.
You're comparing the well-built and capable Land Cruiser to the over-hyped and overpriced G wagon??? I'm almost shocked you didn't mention Escalade in the same sentence too. You pay hardly any attention to the details of what you are reviewing but are very quick to inject your personal opinion. Your job in front of that camera is to be critical and unbiased, and yet you have hardly mentioned anything about the vehicle itself. Educated buyers do their homework. I put in the effort when I visit the dealership and get to know the vehicle, it's handling, features, quirks, comfort, controls, driving experience... This video is about as helpful as a 4-minute 4-right-turn dealer test drive. Thumbs up for the Land Cruiser and thumbs down for Roman.
Luscious3174 Mt. Shekel. the g isn't overhyped. It is definitely overpriced though
The G is def overhyped for off road ability. It's heavy, has a very bad CoG, has basically a fake bull bar, comes with street sport tires for some reason, has bad breakover angle due to the exhaust and overall luxury wise is pretty meh. Most of this stuff is fairly fixable but then you're spending an extra several thousand to upgrade a $130,000+ SUV when you could buy a Land Cruiser 200 + lift, armor, tires, etc. or a Raptor or something
signs Stock, it out offroads nearly every oem vehicle available. it handles a wide array of reasonable (read that as "what new car owners consider off-road) terrain well.
Obviously, my long arm xj will out wheel it, but it works well...Especially amongst its real competition...The "baby elephant SUV that can also go to aspen" segment of the market.
interior is nice, looks like a Kardashian car(a plus in some circles), etc. yes, it is sent with garbage tires, but that is market wants over engineering. Their customers don't want a/t tires, they associate them (incorrectly) with true off-road tires and therefore howl.
You are obviously biased towards the Land Cruiser. Sure it is a gold car. But the G wagon too. And dont compare the G wagon to the Escalade. The G wagon is military grade and if you look under it you can see that it has more in common with an Unimog than with a regular SUV.
Lest we forget the terrible fit and finish of the G Wagon. Door gaps so wide you can read the factory stickers inside the door when the door is closed.
Um, Roman, it is by FAR the most reliable, capable trucks on earth. Period. Ask an Australian or an African about the 200. Oh, and everywhere else, you'll get a Diesel. Then you can take it round the world with great range.
Great depiction of two fools, one who owns a Range Rover and one who would rather own a G wagon.
Travis Andrews
😂😂😂
Don't forget a general lack of knowledge concerning the difference between L and H
disagree with u .range so many issues. Toyota is a legendary with no issues. go overseas and see
You have no idea what you're talking about. Clearly you have something personal against the Land Cruiser.
i think you missed the end where he said he really likes it
Joker yeah he can’t afford one.
He's a Jeep guy he hates cars that are better that american made shit.
Was this a review? You've spent the first half of the video talking about other trucks, and the rest trying to pull out a range rover not even using the low range (or were you)?
Why don't you think it's good offroad? You didn't show any tests at all, you didn't talk about the crawl modes, the low range, the turning circle helper.
I'm really curious why you phoned this one in. Lazy, sloppy, and poorly done.
landcruiser will be going long after the rangie and g wagon. In australia it's landcruiser or a good chance you will be walking home
yeh agree man i have a 200series, what an idiot who buys the petrol version?? twin turbo diesel V8 650NM torque rest my case!! these are reliable and put simply the best off road vehicle in the world
... but that would be a 70 series
in australia there are alternatives too. the patrol and pajero both are excellent and both have legendary cred similar to the cruiser.
How about the Nissan Patrol?
The v8 diesel has much better fuel economy
this guy lives in his dreamworld i guess. hey man could somewone please tell him what Land cruiser stands for. i would rather buy a Land cruiser with no doors and no Tires, than any other so called offroaders.this car owns respect.
If you travel the world with G Wagon or Range Rover, make sure a Land Cruiser follows you. The Land Cruiser has to tow both to the next mechanic. Land Cruiser may not be as "fancy" looking as either, but it gets the job done better than any other vehicle. I personally like the LX570 more as I think it has a much better interior though.
couldn’t have said it better myself.
Beg pardon if this is already mentioned in one of the 600+ comments preceding this one. . . .
There is SOOO much incorrect information given in this video. Roman, I lost a lot of respect for you on this one. The 200 Series LC is not a shared platform with the Tundra, nor do they have the same engine. The Tundra and the Sequoia, both vehicles designed, marketed, and built in the US for the North American market, share the same basic platform. If you look at photos of the Tundra/Sequoia taken from underneath and compare to photos of the LC200 from the same angle, you'll notice that there is NOTHING common between them other than rear axle assembly. The suspension of the LC200 has far greater articulation than the Tundra/Sequoia. The engines are similar, but the Tundra/Sequoia engines are built in the US with different components than the Japanese built engines of the LC200.
I am embarrassed for you showing the footage of you bumbling and making excuses for your uninspiring efforts to retrieve the stuck RR. I am also embarrassed for you given the complete 180 you have taken given your previous praise given for this vehicle in earlier videos. As your channel has grown, you have become a complete shill for whoever is willing to dole out the cash. Your technical knowledge is limited, and it's obvious you only parrot whatever information you're given by others. I agree that you should let Andre and Nathan handle making the videos.
the rest of the world also gets the twin turbo diesel v8 and the more off road worthy but still comfortable 150 series
Viren S the 4.5 diesel is a slug. Would never sell in the US.
Mick Loney mine does 0-60 around 7 seconds when doing a launch. Not really a slug. But I average around 24 mpg
Viren S ha! 60 k/h in 7 seconds maybe! Stock they do 0-100k/h in about 10 sec. Which is a slug. The 6 speed slushbox doesn't help. Toyota didn't even bother making the 8 speed for the diesel!
Mick Loney
I said "when launched" but I agree. Not the fastest 3 row full size suv out there
Viren S launched? Off a cliff maybe? Do you mean stalled up? It makes maybe 0.5 second difference. They run a 19 sec 1/4 when stalled up. The diesel is a slug. The 5.7 is quicker, smoother, nicer to drive and lag free. Why would anyone buy the diesel?
luv toyota period! my dad has a 96 t100! still runs like its brand new! i got a 04' toyota tundra never had a problem with it! my moms got a toyota priva van 94 awd no issues! toyota makes reliable vehicles! you pay for what you get!
I had to stop watching the video just to post this comment. Roman you're everything I hate about a lot of journalists. Your clear bias and lust for everything German is so obvious it makes these "reviews" lack credibility. But hey, just so you know, the LC doesn't have to sell well, at 80k 3,000 sales a year is plenty. And even if it wasn't selling that much, Toyota doesn't offer this car for sales, it's about heritage, why else do you think the LC got an update before the sagging Sequoia? Furthermore, your comment at the end of the video is damn near infuriating. So essentially, you don't think the LC is luxurious OR a good off-roader. You might be the only person in this world that think the LC doesn't have a level of sophistication about it. This is the reason why I take every TFL review with a grain of salt. You want more credibility, go to MT or C&D or even more small time reviewers like Redline Reviews. I'm convinced that you and Nathan are incredibly bias and often times have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Couldn't of said it better myself
Cecil L 100%👏👏👏
It's ok - let him do his euro thing - it may actually help drive used LC prices down a bit... we all know who's king :)
Roman has bitch tits.
And that is why you should always buy a Toyota, if you don't want to be at the workshop all the time.
I bet the maintenance costs are a lot fuckin lower on the Toyota Land Cruiser vs the Gwagon/Range Rover. You might argue someone who can afford a Land Cruiser should be able to maintain the Gwagon/Range Rover - but that isn't always the case.
In Venezuela we love Land Cruisers so much that Toyota of Venezuela continued to produce the 80 Series Land Cruisers until 2007 and FJ70s till '09. Without a doubt one of the best vehicles for off roading
That's a pretty shitty, baseless review. Good luck getting back from the trail in a Land Rover product! Not to mention the resale value, or lack thereof! They are a frigging joke. My cruiser always brings my family home, no matter what.The cruiser does not need your endorsement, after all. It sells to a select group of individuals who are not interested in attracting unwanted attention and only want a high quality, all-purpose, go anywhere vehicle.
Mario Garcia Please forgive the ignorance of most Americans who have no clue what a reliable vehicle is all about
land rover defenders are much more capable off road than a land cruiser
joseph billman Are they also more reliable than a LC?
anything can be 'reliable' if you maintain it and look after it properly, personally I have found them to be reliable
joseph billman they say you can take a Land Rover or a Jeep deep into the jungle but if you want to come back out you take a Toyota, their superior reliability is legendary and can't be beat hence why you only see Land Cruisers in the most inhospitable and harshest environments on earth
The best car for all countries with hard climat, especial in Great Russia 🇷🇺
Thats what we recover everyday up here in the North. Tip: with that much space: hook up the strap to the rear passenger side Wheel, and pull it 90 degrees (no gas/ no brakes/ no turning the wheels from the LandRover) - that way you turn the Landrover on to the plowed road, with both rear tires - its much easier to finish the recovery that way.
Cheers from Scandinavia
Tak1 Has doing that ever caused damage?
Not really. When the vehicle is in the ditch like that its mostly hung up on snow and there will not be additional damage to the wheels etc. Of course its best to make the desicion and judgement of how to get the car free from time to time - but most of the times when the car is stuck like that a little 90 degree jank with the strap to the wheel will ease it up and make the recovery much easier.
Tak1 That's good to know.
the point of making LC200 is to go to the middle east
the higher seals is in the middle east
in here we have 4 engins
we have a V6 4.0
V8 4.8
diesel V8 4.5 with twin turbo
and The 5.7
even we have more options on the car
like a modified suspension
a 20" inchs wheels
a sport body kit
drive mode : Sport, sport+ , comfort , eco
and the start price is 56,000$
cuz we have a lower optins
and the road here is full of land cruiser
sorry but I will take a toyota over a pos unreliable range rover and overpriced Mercedes
Rogelio Melgar, you'd be one of the very few.
Austin H, uhm, no.. He'd be one of the many knowledgeable people.
Sadly, the clueless sheep with zero automotive understanding are way more percentage-wise, that's why he'd be one of the actual few smart people to do the right thing;
LR's are utter crap and obviously people do know this fact. That makes me kind of faithful in humanity.
Frank White, right. He still be one of the few people that chose a land cruiser over the competition. Period. 3000 annual sales is extremely low. Those are facts.
No one gives a damn about the American market sales. Are you kidding me, or are you kidding yourself? The Land Cruiser only made its way over there recently, with only the 200 series available, and with only 1 engine choice. So this means nothing.
Check out countries that do actual offroading on cultural base, countries with rugged terrain and inhospitable landscapes. Check out markets that actually have them for many years now, and have the full range of LC's.
Land Cruisers (and Toyota's as a whole) are sold in the millions worldwide.
And again, this doesn't even mean much.
What's even more important is their reliability (waaaaaay out of the LR's league, and pretty much everyone else' for that matter), capability (again, pretty much untouchable), resale value (untouchable, specially by the most depreciating company known to man - LR), and other meaningful things.
That's what's important. At least to people that know what a motorized vehicle actually is! Those are facts.
I would also suggest checking out Lexus sales in the US, since that's what's more concentrated for the respective market, if the numbers are that important to you.
Don't be as moronic as the clueless sheep out there and actually think with your own head, thanks.
Frank White, sure? I still have my 2010 HSE Lux with 75k original miles and I've had zero issues. We have two other LR products in my extended family. No issues. No one needs to defend LR, they're doing just fine without you. The LC sales in 2000 were 15k units in the US. After 2004 they have never gone back in to the 4000 unit range. It just isn't popular here. It's most popular in Australia. I know what I am talking about, we own a Toyota dealership here in the states and they don't sell. Not saying they aren't good trucks but they still don't sell. I'm happy with my RR. You be happy with you LC. If you even own one.
I have 2016 Cruiser. Just add BFG all terrain KO2's and your good to go. Bulletproof reliability. Same can't be said for Range Rover.
Roman can you stop reviewing Toyota! All I hear from you is bashing them. Comparing the land cruiser to the G wagon that is 50k more is stupid. Have you even driven in the G wagon it's so stiff no where near as comfortable as the land cruiser. Then say the Range Rover is better hmm 🤔 last time I check Range Rover are a joke due to their horrible reliability and horrid resale value. By all means choose the Range Rover and get stuck in the middle of no where. That means we won't see you post anymore shitty reviews. Overall most bang for your buck is the land cruiser and if you care about brands go to the Rover or g wagon. This is a beast.
How many jerks does it take to unstick a Land Rover with a Land Cruiser ;-)
Lord I wish Toyota would sell the real land cruisers in the US.
John Edmonds what are the “real land cruisers” we talking about here?
this is the best offroad car for todays standard, you getting a lot for your money and the most important thing is toyotas reliability. check out what they are doing with this can at saudi arabia
This car and Nissan patrol are everywhere in middle east ❤
i love the look of the 2017 land cruiser, it looks modern but not over sifi like the evoke
You forgot something, the Range Rover it's not a reliable vehicle, the opposite happens with the land cruiser, and is more comfortable and stronger than the Range Rover
the days of bad reliability are in the past now and the land cruiser certainly isn't more luxury or comfortable
joseph billman, agreed! My 2010 RR HSE Lux has almost 80k miles. I'm the original owner and have had zero issues.
Do you daily drive it?
Logical Engineering, absolutely. Next one will be super charged, the power is good in the NA 5.0l but who doesn't want more? We have two others in my extended family. 2014 RR Sport and a 2015 RR supercharged. 15 has 30k miles, no issues and the 14 has close to 50k miles, no issues. We've owned models from the mid 2000's and I can't say we were as lucky with those but the Tata rovers have all been pleasantly surprising.
Austin H , well brother or you've been lucky or they really improved their quality. I've had a RR and a Discovery, the discovery was ok but the RR used to be more at the shop that in my house, and my sister had a 2004 RR and had lots of problems to, by the other hand they are very confortable, beautiful and sexy looking. I wouldn't buy one you can understand why I've had a land cruiser for 10 years and never had any problems. Now I have a Porsche Cayenne and I'm super happy with it...
The thing is that Land Cruisers, outside the US sell in the equivalent amounts as Escalades, Tahoes and Yukons combined, so Toyota is definitely making a killing off the 200 Series. Maybe it doesn't appeal to the American Market as much as GM's SUV's, Range Rovers, G-Wagons, because it wasn't really made for the American Market. So the answer to the question is no. The Land Cruiser still has its MOJO, now more than ever
I don't think the Land Cruiser should be compared to those two. The LC was made for occasionally needing to go off road or occasionally needing to tow something say on the farm.
The MBG was made from a military grade vehicle with constant off road encounters so it really isn't apples vs apples.
The RR doesn't do well in the longevity test regarding electronics and their fancy shmancy air suspension. So I still say the Japanese have won this.
Roman, when you have so many hate comments you know you've achieved your own style and personality as a reviewer. You were my first car reviewer I watched so kind of a benchmark, even though I'm not watching these that much any more.
i rather have a LC than a land rover for when the WW3 come with trump
tinleo333 lol yea
The American's will all be driving Duramax diesels, so LC and Rovers will be fu##ed regardless
tinleo333 Your comment cracked me up lol, i will take the LC too
fredbrackely You mean the diesel engine that was designed by Isuzu in Japan lol
Errr.... yes that one....
Yeah, how many 300k mile range rovers are out there? Reliability, performance, steadiness, consistency. These are the hallmarks of land cruisers. No one passes RRs from generation to generation, nor the G-Wagens. These reviews bug normally, but dude, if you're going to talk about a heritage vehicle, truly understand the vehicle.
There's reasons why they can price it that high, since the 50's
bufunga well said thats the only real reason!!!! 👏👏👏👍🏻🤙
Well also these folks never look beyond the skin. There are articles talking about the engineering that goes into LC's. They are engineered with a 25 year life span in mind. They come with SS exhausts from the factory, they have thicker windshields, beefier axles and spindles. Overall they put a lot more into the vehicle to ensure it lives a longer life. All things an average reviewer tends to forget for some reason. Oh well.
bufunga
Also because it dominates today.
Love that there is a lot of hate four this car, which I own. Talked to a few different people at my office that own range rovers, yes they do love them, now. But not after they had to shell out thousands of dollars fixing them. One lady has had the engine replaced after she bought the car, because it crapped out. Leaking from the doors, electrical problems. She had a rental for a while, why? Because it was in the shop. Granted my vehicle has had issues. One only, radiator blew up, which seems to be a common problem. Replaced it myself and is back on the road. 108k miles on the odometer, still running, still performing. No issues. Gas guzzler, yes. Does the family prefer going on the second car, not a chance. I wished for better mileage, yes. But nothing else. RR and benzos are pretty, I'll give them that, but after doing my homework, I'll stick to what I have. Just my opinion.
Let those that DON'T have one, start the crap talking. When you own either one, tell us your real story.
On any vehicle I purchase, the number 1 consideration is reliability. Number 2? Cost of maintenance and repair. Toyota wins hands down.
I don't wanna be rude, but You guys don't know much about off-raoding. Come to Aus or watch a few videos to see what we put the Land-cruisers through.
They're tough, capable and most importantly very very reliable. The spare parts are also available in remote areas.
This is the best overland suv no matter what people say :D
They should have stayed more classic like the G has over the years. Solid front axle is why I love my 80 series. Still an awesome truck
the rest of the world gets the diesel engine, and the land cruiser is the most reliable truck.
the g wagon and range Rover are no longer really off "roadable" they will break when pushed every 2nd vehicle here is a 200 series the other is a 79 you guys really miss out on the twin turbo v8 deisel tho
First of all a stock Land Cruiser will go places a Range Rover will never go, second of all the after sales price on a Land Cruiser are extremely cheaper than on a Range Rover, third of all I'll send you my Land Cruiser through FedEx if you keep a Range Rover running for more than 3 years without any problems that will cost you a shit tone of money.
epiccheese911 hahaha
epiccheese911 Our Rangerover hasn't had any issues. Bought brand new in 2011.
You're lucky because my neighbor repaired the hydraulic system on his HSE 3 times this year (2014 model bought from the dealership), my Dad bought a 2010 Land Cruiser VX.R and a 2010 Prado VX.L (both from the dealership) and the only thing we repair is the AC (because of the heat in Dubai), and we're now shipping our Prado to our home country knowing it's a car that'll stay handy for a long time...
My wife could have done this review. Gee I don't like the profile. Gee, these 3rd row seats are a bit of a pain but golly the split tailgate is pretty handy. I was looking at this video for impressions as I am sick of the unreliability of my late model Suburban LTZ and want something bullet proof: incredibly reliable, able to haul my crew, pull a boat, and get through the white stuff. This vehicle has all of that. What I haven't seen down at the boat ramp is someone trailering a 24' Cobalt with a LR or a G-Wagon. The cost of admission is steep and the cost of ownership in relation to fuel is not wonderful. But I'll take the LC over the GW any day of the week. And you can keep the LR/RR entirely.
I do think the Land Cruiser needs to have the 4runners front end as well, buuuuttt it's still 10x better than the RR or the Gwagon.
Whenever I see a vehicle stuck in slippery conditions like that and the vehicle is on a slanted ground towards the ditch, I say to my self "why are they trying to recover the car in the traditional way, i.e. pulling from front or rear STRAIGHT???". Pulling it at n angle was right, but not from the rear, since the vehicle was already head covered. You should have pulled at an angle from the front the first time.
Plus, try next time to straighten the rope and keep people clear specially when you don't have something to cover it
do you get the 200 series with the v8 twin turbo diesel engine option in America? In Australia we do and it out sells the petrol engine by a mile
+chris c no we only get the 5.7L V8
chris c 200 kw wouldn't be enough for the US market.
Mick Loney the 0-60 time is faster in the diesel than a lx570 and uses half the fuel doing it. They effortlessly drag 8000lb trailers around Australia without fault for 200k+ miles.
Just an opinion you don't use this kind of vehicles to drag but rather pull and haul. I'd prefer the diesel version.
thats the one i have man awesome machine, idiot review!
This host literally lost all his street cred with this video
What an embarrassment . Here you are reviewing at 4wd and can't even drive one . Get some experience in 4wd and then do a review. I own 2 Landcruisers a 200series and an 80series they are both great . You forgot 1 thing . If your driving around the world you will need a reliable truck and access to spare parts of which Land Rovers and Benz are extremely expensive and hard to get unlike Toyota . Toyota is the ultimate in reliability in this Country of Australia. Don't even get me started on American SUVs #rubbish
I've only pulled two people out of snow in my old 4Runner but each time was enough to reassure myself that I didn't need anything else.
seriously every point this guy makes against it are twice as strong arguements for the G class and RR that he sucks off, and he doesn't even mention reliability. maybe some find it ugly but that's the only reasonable arguement be made against it. the land cruiser is a semi luxurious, reliable off-road vehicle its not supposed to be lathered in chrome like your goofy ass range rovers.
Román your vídeo is exactly the reason why it's the #1!!!! Never brakes down and the v8 diesel exceeds all engines(gas). The model is the best in it's segment worldwide except the US becuase you dont have really bad roads
I'd buy a LC any day of the week and twice on Sunday, I really like LR, but we all know they aint no Toyota !
Sure, stock it's pretty vanilla. Now, add some 34" tires and upgraded/higher suspension I'm now taking it everywhere my 4Runner Trail went. I love my 200!
Best SUV forever... I love this vehicle so much
This channel never had or ever will have mojo.
For that price if I had to spend it I would get the lexus version
Maddog8148 At that price point you should get a loaded Yukon Denali or a loaded Cadillac Escalade, I keep hearing that according to many many Americans they are much better and more reliable vehicles than any Toyota
guy proulx like I said if I had to spend the money personally I would never spend $80k on an SUV.
guy proulx The Yukon Denali is a very nice vehicle the Escalade is basically the same thing but very much upgraded on the interior. But it's also 25K more
Maddog8148 But if you were buying one of these vehicles for 80k which one would you buy?, according to many Americans the Denali and Escalade are much better and more reliable than a Land Cruiser, if it was your money which one would you get? which one would you trust to take over landing all over this planet?
guy proulx - if I had to pick one I will probably take the GMC Yukon Denali that truck load is about $63k. The Escalade in the LanRover are both around $80-$90,000 which is a big difference. Personally that's a lot of money to spend on an SUV. When you talk $80,000 and up I will get more of a refined machine like a Porsche. The new Porsche 718boxster is a really nice piece of machinery for the money. That's just my opinion.
What the Toyota Land Cruiser is really about is long-term reliability and safety. It's a tank on wheels meant to last forever. Crown Victorias, Mack trucks and Caterpillars don't come cheap and might not be stylish but get the job done. In Mexico several military grade VR6 armored Land Cruisers, Suburbans and Grand Cherokees take on potholes and speed bumps on the road with ease.
I enjoyed the episode but it seems as though TFL isn't a fan of any of the styling Toyota offers. I do love this refresh they've done on the 200 series. I would enjoy seeing an optioned out Tahoe or a 4x4 Escalade compared with a 200 series. Most Range Rovers (not the sport variant) are similarly priced to the LC, are not any better in approach or departure angles by any substantial measure, and have very awkward sized tires to even find a good all terrain tire to fit. The G wagon is a great truck but it's at least $40k more and can be as much as $140k more than the LC and they still only sell roughly 3500 units during a good year. If I had $87k, I would have the LC! There's a ton of value in it compared to the rest of the market (IMO).
Thirsty? Really? At 15 mpg for a very capable off-road AND luxury vehicle with a proven and gutsy V8, I would consider it par for the course. If it didn't have the V8 or as powerful an engine, the complaint would be; not enough power. Americans are never content. I get the part about challenging the manufacturers but, this is still a top of the line SUV that isn't just a street queen. Land Rover is sexy? compared to what? That's very subjective and open for LOTs of debate. G-wagon badass? Why because rich people buy it to drive it down the streets of Beverly Hills? No sir, G-wagon is a heavy, powerful and while we're on the subject of thirsty? Let's talk mpg with that beast. Anyhow, back to the G-wagon; UGLY. Nothing pretty about the G-wagon and who can afford it? At least with the Land Cruiser, it's within the reach of many middle-class Americans. So when the G-wagon is ugly, you call it iconic styling? Gimme a break Roman, I'm throwing the BS flag on that. Call it what it is; UGLY. Range Rovers are handsome and refined not doubt, and very capable. I would say this directly competes with the Land Cruiser which is why the Cruiser has upped it's game in the luxury department and thus, the price. 22" inch wheels on the Rover is RIDICULOUS. Need driving lessons Roman? Try a snatch strap which should be in any off-road worthy vehicle. Traction on the snow and ice is not going to get that Rover that you yourself said isn't an off-road vehicle. Of course, it IS a different class than your LC however, lots of irony there. It drives like a BIG, HEAVY, SOMEWHAT cumbersome truck. Hmmmmm, like the G-wagon? No, I think not that big and cumbersome. All-season tires which are useless off-road and yet you just pulled a Rover out. It's kind of like the Rovers which come with 22" wheels and what's that? All season radials? C'mon man. Trail damage gonna get expensive; OK, I concede that on moderate to hard-core off-roading that is a good possiblity. However, Can we mention the direct competitors to this? How expensive is a Mercedes and Land Rover going to get? I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say, yeah, a LOT more expensive. I agree that you can't be great at off-roading and luxury unless you're willing to spend well into the 6 digit and above prices. But, in the market of today, who is buying these vehicles? Toyota has to provide for the demand of the market like everybody else and they do without losing it's off-road roots. Who drives these? I can honestly say that I have seen lots of soccer moms and Drs driving the Land Cruiser or it's Lexus brother the LX 570. Again, it's apparent you are scolding Toyota for not being the end all be all of off-road vehicles but, are you going to buy one without the modern amenities that you say make this vehicle expensive? C'mon man
Australia has some of the toughest terrains in the world and that is why the 200 Series Land Cruiser is #1 in sales here! #Unbreakable
Except the Land Rover and G Wagon will break down before you get around the world. Toyota will keep on truckin
I agree with some of your points Roman. I really wish Toyota just allow the LX to be the only three-row LUXURY truck based SUV and allow the Land cruiser take Sequoia's segment.
Toyota rules!.
The story of the Land Cruisers life, pulling out Jeeps and Rovers.
problems with this suv is that its to big for offroad use 4 runner will be more capable, only aussies and arabs love these landcruiser and last its a gas guzzler maybe toyota should consider bringing diesel v8 for this truck.
evo emperor i live in gulf and land cruiser is very famous in our country ksa and we used it in desert
also depends on where you live and cost of fuel. In some states right now fuel is cheap as hell so it doesnt matter. Hence why people are still making the suburan, land cruiser etc.
Lol come to Dubai, where everything you see on the huge ass dunes is a Land Cruiser or a Patrol
in middle east we have 4.6 v8 and 4.0 v6. and we have much cheaper trims.
4.5 l diesel will get about 25 mpg highway, pretty impresive machine
You should see how well the landcruiser does in the middle east especially the desert countries. Range rovers r just as good here on the road and ofc hold their respect on the road but nothing beats a landcruiser or a nissan patrol off road (desert) not to mention reliability and resale value. Great review though. Hope you guys can join us in dubai for an off road adventure with arctic trucks.
Bahahaha!! talks about the Range rover being better than Toyota Land Cruiser. Then has to use the Land Cruiser tow out that worthless crap Range Rover from snow, then assumes that its stuck because it's got the wrong tires, and gets corrected by the owner of the Ranger Rover and says they're all season. Proving that he doesn't know what all season tires look like, and still doesn't know cars.Never, ever, Insult the legend like this again. compare the piece of shit range rover that beaks down and has the crappiest reliability of any vehicle. And the G wagon is a joke, you know it and I know it. It's the worst riding vehicle on the road, and has god awful handling, and the Land Cruiser OFFERS THE SAME LUXURY WITH BETTER readability. The Rang Rover its an electrical nightmare.
I'll take the Landcruiser over the Land Rover any day. NO dying on the road with the Land Cruiser.
May not be beautiful. But it will be around long after the LR and gwagen have give up and are sitting their bellies due to shitty air suspension
The US version of the LC200 is really about luxury. The Mid-East version of this has so many choices..All the way from 4.0 4.7 to 5.7 with so many options. Not as equipped as the US version but certainly more personality with a much cheaper price.
that was not a range rover, that was a Land Rover Evoque
+Murphinite nope, please do your research before you comment the Evoque is a Range Rover
it even says RR on the bonnet :)
Actually, children, it's a Land Rover, Range Rover, Evoque. There's no need to thank me for clarifying the situation, just send money‼️🤑🤑🤑
Here in Australia, the Land Crusier is the backbone on this country. So many people rely on their off-road vehicle. From work, to recreational. And I can honestly say the Cruiser out performs any competition, including the Land Rover. It's so widely used that it's one of the top selling vehicles. They're so popular that they come in many different styles and configurations, even with models from the 80's being remade and updated for modern use, such as the 70 series work mate. Many companies, such as ARB and TJM sell many after market and useful gear for these vehicles. The manufacturer (Toyota) also believes that Australia is one of the harshest environments, thus why they test everyone of their off-road models in the Australian outback. And trust me, it's harsh.
What I'm trying to say is, if you want something reliable, tough and with a good life expectancy, go the Crusier. After all, us Aussies only used them for an odd 60 decades. We've got this far with them, they ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
....that poor range rover...
Love how they brought back the FJ80 format with the headlights, and "repurposed" the taillights from the 2013-2015 LX 570. Favorite Land Cruiser
I use to own a land rover and trust me it's nice and all but it's just one fucking expensive none reliable vehicle, and if it break well your fuck cause it's expensive to fix.... I'll take the Toyota any day cause they proven reliable and it's been tested it will run forever...
I own a 2018 79 series landcruiser and just purchased the 2020 vx landcruiser 200
Two of the best 4wd’s of the entire world,they are different but they both share the same dna there is no comparison
all the new hot 4x4s suck an are over priced
A newer Land Cruiser parked next to my 2003 Sequoia at Lowes some time ago. I was really surprised at how large the Land Cruiser has become. It appeared just as wide, nearly as tall but shorter in length.
Romn always against Toyota
In Australia buddy, we dont use the Petrol version, we use the twin turbo Diesel 650NM torque, best towing vehicle in the world
not use for city, highest selling large SUV in the country. Bad ass SUV
I mean, this is an unmodified 200 off-road. th-cam.com/video/0C8wTOy3i_U/w-d-xo.html
Tires? Super important. I recommend Nokian WR G3 SUVs. I have these in 255/45R20 on my XC60 T6 and the non-SUV version in 235/50R18 on my wifes XC70 T6. Both have excellent traction in snow and on ice, I was expecting good performance but I've been very impressed.
Love the Land Cruiser but I'm very familiar with its 60 year history and have owned several of the models I definitely would take it over the Land Rover for reliability, offroad ability and resale. Great Overland platform just check out the Hema Maps 200 Series LC.
This is one of the best advertisements for genuine winter tires I have seen in a long time. I think we should all be glad you were not eaten by the wild mountain dogs that appeared half way through the video.
Him rescuing another vehicle is why I always go Toyota. Since I was a child we've rescued jeeps, fords, etc. from trails, pits and roadside in our Toyotas. It's great if you have all the fancy stuff inside, but I'd rather just buy a vehicle to get from point A to B and know it's going to get there.
Spot on! I have a very well equipt and locked 80. I needed to replace an aging '05 Duramax as I have a decent sized boat I need to tow here in AZ. I thought about a new LC, but got a '16 Power Wagon. Grin on face every drive. Not sure about the red grill and ask me in 10 years as the thing grenades thou, I'm sure Ill have a different opinion. ORD in Carbondale for the green squares' suspension. Hit them up. And 8.1 Vortec with a NV4500. Buddy in Pueblo has done several and has been featured in several 4wheeler rags. Tough part is finding the correct transfercase. He's got a '89, Burb from Denver, with that combo that is just cool! Very minty, but so is his '78 shortbed. Engineer for Navistar, so not your ordinary shade tree dude. Be interesting to do the Ike, and I'd be willing to bet he'd be more than up for it! You guys ever come to the Overland Expo in Flag?
I loved my 80's series. Hopefully they'll return to something like that in the future.