My first Premium BYD Seal Drive Impression in Sydney Australia 2023
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- Follow my first drive in the BYD Seal after taking delivery from Mascot to Chatswood in Sydney Australia December 2023 of the Premium Variant on a mix of urban roads and highways by BYD Tom aka Tesla Tom of Ludicrous Feed December 2023
My first Premium BYD Seal Drive Impression in Sydney Australia 2023
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- No payment was received from BYD for the production of this video
- I was not a BYD shareholder at the time this video was posted
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00:00 Driving out of the showroom
00:56 Introduction
02:04 Floor mats!
02:28 Switching off intrusive ADAS alerts
02:59 First drive!
03:58 Pedestrian Warning Noise
04:30 Premium feel
05:57 Regenerative Braking explained
06:50 Range
07:16 Indicator Sound
08:05 Suspension
08:36 Intrusive ADAS
08:50 Waze feedback
09:40 Traffic Sign Recognition
10:38 Steering wheel controls
11:02 360 Camera
12:30 Brief discussion vs Tesla
13:08 Turn off Traffic Sign Recognition
14:05 Half indicate
14:30 Wing Mirror adjustment
14:50 Intelligent Cruise Control 1
15:22 LFP Traction Battery
16:00 Brief comparison vs Atto 3
16:14 Head Up Display responsive to light
16:59 Lane centering and follow distance
18:20 Voice Control for Apple Carplay
19:20 Dashcam installation later
19:55 Comment on Auto light/dark mode
20:13 Intelligent Cruise Control 2
20:56 Changing max cruise speed
21:22 New BYD Car Smell
21:43 Stalks
22:25 Plans for road trips
23:00 Lane centering analysis
24:20 Speedometer on binnacle display
25:08 Atto 3 comparison
26:15 Sound Insulation
26:43 Accessing AC
27:56 Binnacle screen graphic
28:25 AC settings
29:50 Everything auto!
30:14 Unwanted driver assistance
31:00 App and data delay
31:45 Summary
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I got this car and I love it. It drives like a E500 coupe... quite, serene yet so powerful. Has good handling but its more comfort than sporty. Drop the kids of at school in Merc SUV, I felt like i was driving a tractor.
Definitely a very comfortable ride. I don’t need it to be super sporty but I’ll test out sport mode soon too 😁
Drives like a E500 coupe? Stop using drugs, please. I'm driving CL500 and I tested this Chinese crap on the wheels. Not even close to C-class, mr. Clown.
Great video Tom. As part of your pre-drive routine, try turning off the speed sign warning but leave the recognition on. It will display the speed sign in the HUD but won't beep at you if you go over 👌
Ahh I see … that makes sense. Great tip!
@@LudicrousFeedeven letting the recognition ON and the speed sign alert/beep OFF...every time you turn on the car , the speed sign beeps Will turn on again...
Indeed, All adas settings Will automatically be activated/ON every time you turn on the car again...
This is quite annoying but something we have to deal with...
A car should not require constant setting changes when you drive. Eyes on road is the best saftey not looking around to turn annoying Bing's off. We have an atto 3 and the latest update is crazy. I can head towards a tree or barrier and it won't do anything, but whilst in or near centre of the lane, the emergency lane bing's 10 times in a 5km trip. Really rubbish and destroy the drive. Where is wireless carplay. Wireless Android has worked for 6 mnths.
It's funny bash the Nissan Leaf, but once you turn something off, it stays off or on, same with the Tesla. Then you get the salesperson always saying that it has to be that way on a Chinese EV to get that 5 star crash rating. MG are just as bad or worse with the speed indication flashing even if you go just 1kph over the limit!
What happened to the audible pedestrian sounds at low speed?
Tom and Joy,
Thanks for the excellent video and bringing us all along for the ride. Can't wait for the next Seal video.
Pleasure! More to come 👍
Thanks for this vid.
Very thorough. You also have a really soothing voice. Thank you.
Why thank you
@@LudicrousFeed
My pleasure
I would love to see your deft and perceptive and intuitive technical prowess assess things like phones and laptops and headphones and speakers and other things that we can all afford and really appreciate a local technical persons opinion.
I,am impressed as I knew I would be. I really look forward to your range test as that is an important part for me. Thanks Tom as usual.
Pleasure! I’ll try to do a range test soon
Nice video. I like watching a drive where I know all the roads!
Enjoy!
For voice recognition, I would suggest disabling the "Hi BYD" prompt and use the activation button on the steering wheel.
Ok good tip
The exterior design of Seal is designed by JuanMa Lopez from Lamborghini and the interior is designed by Michele Paganetti from Mercedes Maybach
Great video looking forward to your full review of it will definitely be going and test driving one
Thanks! More to come
Awesome video Tom. Love how you just report on your experience and offer comparisons but not out right verdicts vs other cars. The Seal is such a compelling offering. Look forward to more videos on it. I wish you could opt to not have the BYD stitching in the headrest.
Thanks! I’m very much experience based as viewers over the years have gathered 😁
That quilted seating and BYD logo stitching is very Kim Kardashiany. The Tesla has an understated elegance in comparison, even though it looks threadbare. Luxurious poverty.
Congrats Tom! Just in time for new year
Thanks!
Great car for the price. No rattles. I agree with the premium feel & ride quality. Excellent vehicle
Ride quality is very good indeed
Thanks Tom and Joy for the video. The Seal looks like a great car and I'm excited to see more of it. Your comment about the delay in the auto night/day mode looked to me like a delay in the light sensor for the headlights and not the car's infotainment.
Ah I see, makes sense
Thanks tom, nice car looking forward to the range test . To compare to my mod 3 and y, love the binnacle, and heads up display I put one in my mod y best thing i have done to it . 40 years of driving , creature of habit.👍
Haha yes I still like the binnacle screen
Hey Tom, great video as always! Please keep the Seal as I think you're going to get a lot more interesting content and increased viewership from BYD and non-Tesla EV fans.. Keep up the good work mate and we'll be keenly awaiting your next video on the Seal!
Thanks for watching!
I’m enjoying learning more about the car and BYD ecosystem in general
Glad you enjoyed your first drive. The driver display has its own menu system where you can control fan speed and temperature. (Menu button on the steering wheel; L&R buttons and volume control) I prefer a quick stab of the microphone button rather than the wake-up word. “Turn down the aircon in the front”
Ah great tip thanks!
I’m learning as I go 😁
Nice. Enjoy! 👍
Thanks!
Great video mate...because of your review I purchased the same model here in Jakarta, thanks for the information...good job and salute 👍
Awesome and congrats!
Looking forward to watching this later!
Enjoy!
@@LudicrousFeed Does the car have internet built in and is its connection provided free for a certain time? Many thanks!
It has a data usage policy apparently which I’ll detail in a future vid when it’s activated 👍
I’m now getting to the stage of only enjoying one pedal driving and basic LKA in our TESLA.
I’ve already got the plates for our Seal Premium which will replace our frustrating Model 3 which will be without stalks from now on ……….truly LUDICROUS !!!
Fantastic! How exciting!
Well, you will miss that one pedal driving and LKA as no one beats Tesla's LKA. So far, the charging from other reviews has been poor, with one NZ showing less than 100kw, I believe it had trouble getting above 40kw! He claims BYD said it should get better as the car ages, I would hope so when other 800v cars like the Kia EV6 can sustain 200kw up to 50% and 170kw till close to 80%. Having to turn everything off every single time you start the car will get old soon! The Tesla and other non Chinese EV can be switched off by default and not reingage every time you start the car up.
Even our old 2021 Nissan Leaf, the lane keep can be turned off permanently, and its one pedal driving can be set to always stay on and even remember the distance settings. V2L is a great positive, though, however, we have yet to use that on our new EV6, which has two power outlets. We love the EV6, the same as the Seal big batteries for long distances, especially in the Seal case with its 82kwh and better efficiency.
The lack of stalks is the only part that I find truly baffling about newer Teslas. It's really frustrating because I think more people would buy the vehicles if it had a speedo above the wheel and now also stalks...
Great to see your first drive Tom & Joy ! Impressed by how responsive that voice command was to Apple CarPlay !! Enjoy the new car and looking forward to watching more.
Cheers Ryan! Agreed the voice commands have been reasonably responsive as long as you know what to say 😅
Looking forward to capturing more features
BYD voice command (and infotainment software in general really) is actually mediocre by Chinese standards, since for whatever reason Chinese consumers are really into using voice command function. Chinese EVs made by their startup carmakers (such as Xpeng, Nio etc) are more software focused and their voice command is even faster and more functional. For instance in some of those cars you can give them a string of commands one after another without stopping and it will quickly carry them all out. Or the best systems which will recognize commands based on which passenger it is coming from, and in those cars all 4 passengers can simultaneously give out voice commands, and the car can process them all and within a couple of seconds carry all of them out.
I can't wait to get one next year. Going for the Premium in Atlantis Grey.
Great choice!
Same for me unless I talk myself into the Performance/Atlantis Grey - which is really blue isn't it?
I saw one way down south in Margaret River this morning of all places. Looks very nice (on the outside at least).
👍
Hi Tom,
Really appreciate the effort you putting in to promote the change to EVs.
Climate can easily be controlled by adding hot or cold to any sentence starting with Hi Byd. Air vents can be manoeuvred thru the AC display settings. If you turn down the slider for audio Nav, it may lower some of those annoying warnings.
Keep up the great work and appreciate your unbiased commentary.
Great tips thanks!
Congratulations Tom. Enjoy your new car.
Thanks! 🙏
Behind the wheel & driving the BYD 👍
And luurvin’ it!
BYD Across the range have turned off pedestrian warning noise in latest OTA update.
How awesome
I don’t mind PWS as a concept but it was a bit too much in the Atto 3
Yeah, when we first test drove the Dolphin earlier this year every time a bike was in our right lane, it would warn us it was super annoying, the dealer also made sure the lane keep was off as she said the car would try and kill us (her words). Thankfully, when the NZ update came out, the lane kept working quite well, and that bike warning was long gone!
@@LudicrousFeedIt's a bit of an unfortunate necessity until an alternative is found. Australia hasn't regulated the need for it yet so that (the Atto 3) sounds like they might have just kept it in because other markets have laws in place for PWS. No doubt we'll catch up with those laws eventually which on one hand is extremely unfortunate, because the whole benefit of an EV is meant to be that it's silent but on the other hand, those that are hard of vision are significantly at risk - I can only imagine how scary that would be, being blind and knowing there are cars driving around but not hearing them. The only indication is tyre noise without a PWS and that only picks up at high speeds.
Hopefully we find a better way in future!
Edit: I must not have understood what exactly was being spoken about! Rather than change my whole comment, I'll just clarify that I was talking about humming/external vehicle noise that EVs make in other markets to warn pedestrians. It sounds like this discussion was talking about internal warning systems for objects/pedestrians outside (to warn the driver). My mistake but I'll keep my two cents on the other topic!
It’s going to be a great road tripper Tom, very nice looking car 😎
Indeed!
Tom, the PWS can be disabled on the Seal, this seems to be how it is being delivered by default in Australia. You can turn it back on by swiping down from the top of the screen, expanding vehicle control and it's called "AVAS".
Great that it’s switched off. I don’t mind if it’s more subtle but it was quite loud on the Atto 3
Looking good! Can't wait to get mine mid Jan! I hear apple carplay soon to be wireless in the Seal, and Netflix coming too.
Yes wireless Apple CarPlay is coming apparently (as per the reps I spoke to during delivery)
Netflix..??
Ye that’s what Alex from BYD told me
That grandfather clock would drive me crazy.
Tick toc tick toc
Better than the alternative option imo
I've noticed that all BYDs (at least the new EVs) seem to have that very aggressive indicator. Personally way more of a fan of Tesla's, also like the one that Mazda uses. It's all personal preference though, most of us drown out the sound and/or get used to it.
12:57 - a very respectable stance! Definitely both good cars for varying reasons and they both have their strengths and weaknesses.
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Great video.... Every BYD owner screaming at you "Hey BYD I'm Cold" BYD responding alright, I raised the temperature 1 degree 🤣😂
😅thanks, will try that on my next drive 👍
Thanks so much Tom
Pleasure 🙏
As always great informative videos. Especially your BYD videos. In South Africa for the last few years we have only had the very expensive German, Swiss and British EVs avaible. We finally have the Atos 3 and soon the Dolphin will be avaiable too. So cheaper options. And plus, great that they have V2L as in South Africa we have "loadshedding" planned blackouts, so that could come handy to keep thing going during blackouts.
Great to see more affordable options heading your way and I agree, V2L will be invaluable for areas with less reliable grid supply 🔌
Nice video ❤❤
Thank you for sharing your first drive. The car is awesome 😎
Pleasure!
Congratulations on your upgrade to Seal!
Thanks!
So cool you have one already! The Seal is my car of choice when I move to Sydney early next year. Just afraid of charging as I likely would be renting just an apartment. Looks lovely in white btw your Seal (though I personally would go for the light blue interior choice)
Thanks! The blue interior looks good too!
There seems to be more public DC charging options popping up in Sydney
That's great to hear. Thanks mate. You look super happy with your new car. I love it! Have a great New Year!
So far people I’ve met owners of BYD (most times at car parks at our local club house) are very happy about the car and so willing to talk to us about their experience and delighted with its performance and service.
That’s great to hear 👍
Great video. Please review the BYD app experience as well in your future videos.
Will do once I get access 🙏
Hi Tom, it will be interesting in the future to see how easily (or not), you can swap between the Seal & Tesla with the very different control layouts!
I don't forsee that being an issue to be honest as I regularly get EV press cars to play with and they all have their little quirks 😁
Thanks for the vid, really interesting. The BYD logo circle not being aligned with the axis of the steeringwheel is making my eye twitch a bit! ;) In all other respects, seems a well put together car!
Didn’t even notice that! I’ll have to take another look 😁
Looking forward to your experience Tom! Good initial drive review. The seal seems really good from a purely physical perspective, absolutely love the exterior of it. And the interior is definitely a lot nicer than the atto. But jeez that software needs some work. And the fact you and other owners are immediately turning off ADAS features is really counter intuitive. Effectively no longer a 5 star safety vehicle if you’re doing that. Also looking forward to you testing the DCFC, reports are the curve isn’t great.
I’ll do a +/- ADAS vid soon so stay tuned!
I’m hearing on good authority that there will be some good software updates coming soon that will address the ADAS issues
nice car great video thanks a million.
Cheers
At 2:37, you have to additionally turn off Emergency lane keep assist to stop the unexpected beeping.
Seems like this car is glitchy tech wise, very glitchy. Not great.
@@54FLEX45 When you say glitchy, can you explain? It doesnt seem anymore glitchy then other cars.
Good tip 👍
These issues can all be potentially refined through the magic of OTA updates over time
Looking forward to yr updates to see whether they really do get fixed.
Hi Tom, thought I'd give you some more feedback on things I discovered on my Seal that you might like to share with your viewers in a future video.
The pop out handles can be manually tilted and opened, similar to how a Tesla door handle works, although it takes two hands. There is also a key hidden in the key fob and a key hole behind the back edge of the door handle on the driver's door. These features are obviously useful if you get stuck without power or your key fob stops working.
Also, I found I get better efficiency on highway driving with cruise control activated, if I leave the automatic regen on standard (instead of high).
Finally, the circle logo on the key fob will activate the A/C if you press it for a short while.
Great tips, I’ll share some of them in my upcoming 1 week update
Interesting to hear your initial first drive thoughts Tom. Yes, the BYD smell is interesting. Not horrible, but not my favourite new car smell. It has mostly gone in our 2-month-old Atto 3, so you won't have it for long. Hopefully I'll get to test the Premium and Performance soon.
The Atto 3 will be quite different to drive. It has the expected "rolly-polly" drive from an SUV with its higher centre of gravity. Not really a criticism, just a fact with SUV's. The "sedan" drive should be superior in the Seal.
The software must be mostly familiar to you after having driven the Atto 3 a number of times. I found in the Atto 3 that the heater A/C settings are difficult to master as the temperature settings (numbers) are a lot different than in an ICE car. Given the Seal uses the same heat pump I'd expect it is the same.
The app takes about a week because your VIN has to be registered for the app to be activated and that apparently takes around a week to filter through the BYD system. I believe the SIM card takes a couple of days to be activated also?
Looking forward to your further impressions and suggested tweaks you come across and recommend. Saves me all the work. LOL 🙂
Thanks for the explanation re: Data/SIM makes sense. Stay tuned, I’ll explore the AC settings further in a future vid 🙏
Looks great! Personally i can't live without the extra boot space. So waiting for the Seal U or the Yuan Up. Cheers!
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Honestly.... I like the look of the seal over the model 3.. it looks like a normal car and not a PlayStation on wheels like every other EV. I think a lot of these features should be rolled back into the atto 3 though like the bigger display for sure!
That’s largely its appeal to many 👍
Impressive!!!
😀
Thanks!
I will be buying a Premium one, ASAP@@LudicrousFeed
I would be interested to know if the Seal’s speed sign recognition can read the LED variable speed signs on the motorway. The Tesla certainly can’t.
A short press on the mic button gives you BYD assistant. A long press accesses your phone’s assistant (Siri or Google Assistant). Much better than using the wake word.
My test drive of the Seal was only a short one, so yours filled in some gaps. Looking forward to future installments😊.
If you need more boot space the Seal U (Model Y competitor) is due mid 2024 (apparently).
Great tips! I’ll see if I can customise the ADAS a bit more. A future software update should make them less intrusive
Useful first impressions Tom. It looks an impressive car. I'm just a little worried with the placement of one of your camera mounts - is it blocking an airbag on the A-pillar?
Good point! I’ll move it elsewhere next time
Hi Tom, lovely video and thank you for your review. Would you have any information on how Seal Dyanamic performs compared to Premium variant? I am thinking of getting Dynamic
I am hoping to do a comparison with the other variants in coming weeks …
Many advantages compared to Tesla 3/Y: instrument cluster screen, heads up display, gear shift lever, turn signal stalk, some physical buttons, much more luxurious interior. I love the seat stitching. I don’t like heavy regenerative braking.
Yes lots to love about the Seal
Fabulous car!
😎
Try turning off Apple CarPlay. You may get pop up warnings explaining the beeps.
Car looks great, thanks Tom. My friend is choosing between a Seal or a second hand M3. Tough decisions….
Very tough, both great options
In Thailand. White Seal Premium single motor RWD as well, but software not updated. The pedestrian warning sound options are horrible. Loud howling or ice cream truck. Another thing I noticed is even though air circulation is set to recycle interior air only, the air conditioning still regularly allows the stench of bangkok drains into the car. Other than that I’m really happy with it. Hopefully it lasts a good trouble free 10+ years .
Also agree that it feels much more expensive than the asking price.
Wah, the Aircon problem that you mentioned is enough reason for anyone driving in city to avoid this car.. exhaust and smelly air coming inside my car ... I won't even wanna drive it.. hopefully it can be solve with software update.
Hmm I wonder how other cars eg Tesla 3/Y cope with the interesting smells of Bangkok when compared to Seal … would make for a good test!
You can disable the PSW.
Software has been updated in Thailand.
UI is not too bad, but agree with Tom, not being able to move the screen during navigation should be fixed. The arrow is located at the lower left which is obviously terrible, and should be at least centered on screen for ease.
Yeah hopefully BYD software engineers see this
Amazing car, I picked mine up 2 weeks ago and have been enjoying it everyday as a daily commuter.
Its just nature for me to turn off all Lane Support and Traffic sign recognition (except for the reading speed signs)
I feel like there should be a software update to address the driver assist features and also maybe limit how much access you have to the infotainment? (it can be very distracting while driving)
Hope you enjoy the car as much as I do Tom, amazing content as usual~
Thanks!
I believe a software update is coming … I’ll document of course
Awesome, however Tom...you fid not check the aceleration!! Check the sport mode and , once you incorporate to the high way with the car, check the 313cv power to feel if the car gives you that "punch" to your back against your seat
Hahah yes will try sport mode in a later vid
Thanks for the review and upload Tom. Just wondering if you got any extra tints or ceramic coating or stock standard? My Dynamic Atlantis Grey ready for pickup in Melbourne and going to get via novated lease (seems like a no brainer) by undecided whether to get extra tinting and ceramic coat (car parked in basement 95% of the time and Melbourne climate). Any thoughts on ceramic coating and experiences? Some online comments say don't get dealerships to do it and 50/50 on benefits.
I opted for no additional extras but for some reason the windows look tinted - certainly so compared to our Model Y’s front windows which are definitely untinted. I probably won’t ceramic coat it because the white paint looks pretty good as it is anyway. I can’t comment on other colours but take a look at my ceramic coating video for my ex-2023 Model 3: 2023 Black Tesla Model 3 Ceramic Coating Explained and Application
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@@LudicrousFeed - Interesting, thanks Tom for the heads up on the tinted front windows and link. Actually going from a white to darker vehicle funnily enough. Thought the paintwork on the Atlantis grey looked pretty good too (tricky to see in the darker showroom and basement at Alexandria though). Can always go aftermarket if needed.
Great video. Looking forward the night drive experience, the lighting in the dark. Reversing at night or in the dark if it clear view rear camera. Safety feature if it work well at night. And can the dash cam self recorded like Tesla when somebody walk past by scratching your car or does it alert to your mobile phone etc. Can you view the camera from mobile app while u away from car parked?
I’ll do another night test vlog
The Sentry mode you speak off is unique to Tesla but it does drain the battery with prolonged use
@@LudicrousFeed yeah same thing for the phone eye sensor auto screen on or stay on. It only takes lil power with sensor auto capture. But yeah thank for the reply and looking forward to another cool EV video.
Great review of the Seal, especially for us ICE drivers. Look forward to learning more soon.
Stay tuned! I’ll try to vlog more as I learn
Congratulations Tom. Looks very good. You’re making me a bit nervous using that screen while you drive. Doesn’t it mean take your eyes off the road? I use voice coy while I am driving. Can the Seal do that?
Yes you can use voice command which I’ll try to get familiar with to reduce screen usage while driving
Hi,
I think with the cruise control, with the increments, if you hold up or down than it'll go in increments of 1 instead of 5. And if you press, it will go by 5.
Sadly not, it’ll just go up/down by increments of 5 regardless of how long you hold it
have you tried the auto breaking as yet, i use it everyday and so handy when you standing at a traffic light as no need to keep your foot on the break.
Yeah Autohold is fantastic and it was the first thing I turned on.
FYI the beeping you hear in the 'intrusive ADAS' timestamp is the car reading the 40 kph sign on the back of the moving bus and/or the inactive school zone sign, and thinking he was speeding when he really wasn't. First beep is when he passes where the car first recognized the bus's 40 sign, second is when he passes the school zone sign.
Does this to me all the time, and I have to turn off the 'intelligent speed information' setting in TSR every time I start the car ... FFS BYD keep this setting disabled when we turn it off, it's not fit for purpose yet
Tesla does that too ... reads the 40 off the back of the bus
Happy for the cars to read the signs but definitely don't want an alert or vibration! Maybe an offset setting would be handy for those who want it ...
@@LudicrousFeed I just want BYD to keep it disabled when I disable it. It's too opinionated and noisy at other times too. 3k's over the limit is too small a margin of error when doing 80, 100+
Keen to see your charge rate with the included charger.. seems like others have reported a max of 1.5Kw/h or 6-7A max. Compare with Tesla UMC?
Will do! I’ll do comparisons between the different AC level charging and plot out a DC charge curve
Great video! just curious what firmware version was installed when you made this video?
Thanks! Will double check when I do a walkthrough of the infotainment system menus and settings
Congratulations on your new Car, it looks great. When you went for the test drive of seal, did the dealer allow you to go on a freeway at 100k zone? There is one in Victoria which apparently has the policy which does not allow customers to drive on the freeway. Not sure what to do. The next closest dealer is about 45 minutes drive.
Thanks! This was the first time I’d ever driven a Seal as I never went for a test drive before taking delivery. Here’s an example of my car on the highway: Premium BYD Seal Highway Range and Efficiency Sydney to Hunter Valley
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@@LudicrousFeed thanks for your prompt reply. I am actually watching the same video right now 😀
Interesting to see how you go when you swap between the Model Y and the Seal with the indicator storks on opposite sides
Honestly not an issue for me as I frequently get press cars with varying stalk sides
Also tip, so you don’t have to turn off the lane assist every drive, just turn it to vibrate, it will persist and I find it very subtle in the Atto after that.
As for getting back to Apple CarPlay after 360 camera, just press the button again.
If you don’t feel like the rotate button will be used much, you can hold it to select another function :).
I also find that I don’t mind the out bright/dark, but I just set the car UI to always dark.😊
Great tips! Maybe I will leave it on dark permanently …
Nice video Tom, was the floor mats a "thankyou for your patience"? Or are they just doing it with seals
I’d say the former 🙏
I had a look at the Seal Premium in the BYD showroom and I've looked at the Model 3 as well as the Model Y. I personally found the rear cargo space in the BYD Seal to be less than the Model 3 because it's not a hatch-back so it feels a bit smaller than the Model 3, which also has a similar issue with how it's designed. That's why I opted for the Model Y even though I have to pay an extra $28k for it, with an 18 month son and going to be going lot of places with him. Figured we get something big for the next 6-10 years.
Model Y is a great option if you need the space!
It's a pity that Teslas basic vehicle warranty is only 4 years vs 6 years for BYD. Good luck owning a Tesla outside of warranty
@@GreenTorque Not sure about other countries, but here in Australia there are a number of caveats with the vehicle 6-year warranty. One of those is the infotainment screen only gets I think 4 years warranty. I gather that included the electronics. A bit stingy of BYD. Perhaps the tradeoff of a lower price in Australia was a worse warranty. Some other warranty corners cut for Australia as well. Same for the Atto 3. Bit stingy BYD!
I believe most other countries have a 6/8 year warranty vehicle/battery with no buts!
@@Paul-ow9ddunfortunately the infotainment warranty is only 2 years. Reckon it won’t hold up under Aussie consumer law due to it being such an integral part of the car these days though
@@Clove_Parmaoh for sure that's not going to hold up in court.... 2 years on a screen that's used to control the car? Can't wait to see who gets the honour of fighting that one in court...
Very nice car, I sure you have lots of vids to make
Once I get my head around a different way of doing things, I’ll be able to make an educated appraisal of this car 🙏
Nice ride and great video Tom, weird that they had to force on a naggy ADAS to pass the test, do you feel they should have released an update prior to address the issue to pass ANCAP?
Prior to deliveries? That would’ve been ideal or at least by now. Let’s see how quickly the OTAs come … I’m not expecting Tesla regularity but happy to be proven wrong 😁
Try to just tune down these assistance systems do not turn them off may be this way it will save the settings. They not off in my atto3 but just set to warning and for lane keep just vibration and I don't have to change it every time I get into the car.
Hmm that’s a good tip, I’ll try it
@@LudicrousFeed someone created a video about it th-cam.com/video/E5IaMwWPd5g/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared&t=155
Great Video Tom. How is the cruise control compared to Tesla autopilot? I know totally different technology but does the lane centre works at the level of Merc or Audi ?
As you saw throughout the vid I had it active and it was relatively smooth 🙏
From my experience to date, the equivalent autopilot in the BYD is far behind Telsa autopilot. In the few times I've tried it, it nearly drove me off the road. But hopefully it will be improved with OTA updates. That said, I never use autopilot on my Model 3 anyway, because I can only drive this car in the city, where autopilot is not much use. The road noise is far too loud for me in my Model 3, to drive it on regional highways with course chip surfaces. That's a big reason why a bought the Seal, so I don't have to only drive my cars on roads as smooth as billiard tables.
Great review, is there a model without upper glass?
The Atto 3 has a powered sunshade
I've ordered the premium in Atlantis grey but said a delivery of march 2024 can't wait for it though.
Congrats!
Hi Tom. Your saying that the seal doesn't have a built in dash cam in front. Atto 3 does . Don't know what's going on there as it Australia delivery
Yeah weird right? I haven’t been able to get a straight answer yet as to why
Hi, I watch your video, I didn't see any blind spot indicator lights or warnings. Does it come with it?
Yes it’s on the periphery of the wing mirrors so the GoPro may not have picked it up
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Sweet 👍
Great start from BYD hopefully they improve over the next few years.
That’s the beauty of OTA software updates
really nice car, just wish all these new cars would keep some tactile dials for making changes to things like climate so you don't need to look at a screen all the time when driving.
It does have basic buttons to turn on the climate control in the center console. However, when I drove a BYD rental, I quickly started using the voice command, i.e., "Hey BYD, set aircon to 21 degrees." Then I never had to take my eyes off the road even to find a button.
I’ll keep experimenting to work out what’s best for my drive
Nice! You have great choices in Australia. In the U.S. there's a 27.5% tariff on Chinese cars let alone no tax break from IRA.
Shame that - I guess your government wants to protect itself from an apparent adversary
@@LudicrousFeed Misguided politics hurts everyone. However there's no way to suppress the desires of more than a billion people to improve their lives. U.S. needs to be realistic, accept a multi-polar world and develop win-win arrangements. It's a shame that we have to bend over backwards, jump thru the hoops and pay more for superior products. Love my Huawei P60 Art, Watch 4 Pro and FreeBuds 5. =) Sorry about the diversion. Love your content. I'm in the market for another EV.
Hey mate, greetings from Thailand i picked my BYD Seal Performance on Xmas Day and have just been on a 700KM drive and managed to get to play with the performance and drive comfort.
There are so many options in the settings, try saying BYD im getting hot or cold and she will adjust your temps either way.
One thing with the HUD when using the HUID it doesn't show nav system, hopefully that will come in the next update.
Awesome! Thanks for the tip and I’m glad you had a nice long drive 🙏
@@LudicrousFeed How you enjoying your Seal ?
@@seangso Loving it to be truly honest with you as it’s probably coming through on the vids: I’ve been told I’m a bad liar 😁
@@LudicrousFeed You doing a great job on the on car, and really enjoy the content. It makes a different with someone doing a review that owns the car rather just using a press car.
On my car in Singapore, the car remembers the last setting of all the safety features. I found them rather intrusive and have them all switched off except for AEB, cross traffic alert. I believe the specs for Singapore and Australia are identical.
Good to know thanks for sharing!
@@LudicrousFeed Most welcome! I absolutely adore this car despite its drawbacks, mainly the software. Software can be updated but hardware can't. The hardware in this is just incredible. We've got the same coloured car! Enjoy and Happy New Year!
Tom, I was thinking about the lack of a camera at the top of the windscreen, but it's fitted on the Atto 3. For a premium car, this seems like a bad omission. However, what concerns me more is if this omission is actually compromising the lane keep and autopilot features, because the car is lacking a top down view of the road, and is relying only on the low down bumper camera. What do you think?
Good thought but I just had a look at my car - there’s actually another camera located in the mirror housing which looks onto the road … probably used for lane centring etc
@@LudicrousFeed Good point. I just saw it on my car too 🤦. But the missing dashcam is still pretty cheap!
had a chance to test drive seal here in indonesia. While im impressed with almost everything, theres 1 thing bothering me. How does your neck and back feel after driving 1 hr in the car? When i sat in the car, my head position was slightly fwd, and my back/shoulder felt a bit hunch due to form of headrest
After 335km, I felt ok: Premium BYD Seal Highway Range and Efficiency Sydney to Hunter Valley
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Just a suggestion around you turning off LKA etc because software is bad - could you please make a video reviewing it and explain/demo what the issues are with it?
Sure I can do a separate vid with the ADAS
Thanks for the video. Isn't your left hand blocking the view of right side of the screen? Also do you think the screen software is too primitive compared to Tesla's?
I can see most of the screen and importantly the speedo is straight in front of me in two spots: on the binnacle/drive screen and the HUD
- I must admit the Tesla infotainment screen is more refined at this stage
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks for the quick comment. I like BYD Seal. But I don't see the X factor to buy it and that's why I ordered M3 and waiting to be delivered in Feb. Your Tesla videos have been very helpful in my decision-making process, so thank you for that! :)
Pleasure and enjoy!
If Cruise control is anything like Subaru, If you hold it up or down for longer than a second you can increase and decrease in increments of one.
Also I noticed the speed is out by 3km/h so you can go a touch over and still not be speeding.
I tried holding it up and down but it just went faster … happy to keep trying to be sure
@@LudicrousFeed Looks like others have complained about that too,
That's actually a deal breaker for me unless they fix it, as it means you're either driving just under the speed limit, or just over it.
Hopefully they can fix via an update?
Great video and really helpful as I’m looking to buy one 👍 ……so thinking about it I think I’m not sure if I want a car with no spare wheel also roof shade is good but I’d rather one that retracts with the push of a button 🤔
Glad you enjoyed it. Check out some of my other BYD Seal vids 🙏
Not many EVs have spare tyres these days … the new Hyundai Kona being a notable exception
Car looks great, saw one a while ago, in Thailand.. Only issue would be the glass roof, and heat ?
I’m hearing the glass has been treated to withstand heat better? I guess this summer will be a good test
I recently saw a direct comparison review of the new Tesla Model 3 with the Seal, and the Seal let in substantially less heat…
And the Seal comes with black, clip on sunshades as standard. They are an optional extra with Tesla.
Bottom line is that Tesla really do screw those owners who live in very hot climates. For a $700 billion car company, Tesla can do better 😏😏😏
The latest software update for the Atto 3 removed low speed pedestrian warning noise.
Thank goodness because the loaner we had overnight still had the PWS
My Seal has the option to turn it off completely. That's how the dealer supplied it, in fact. Don't think any owner in the world is in favour of this feature on EVs. It's often louder than the noise even many ICE cars make, I reckon.
The sound has been really toned down with the latest OTA 1.7 in the Atto 3, but it is still there, but the sound is different from what it was before, hardly noticeable now. I still have mine set on the standard setting.
@@vasil7410 I think it's useful for pedestrian safety
@@Peter-vn8ue Don't know if it's the same as in my Seal, but the PWS can be disabled completely. Swipe down from the top of the screen, expand vehicle control and it's called "AVAS".
The amount of times you take your eyes off the road to look at the screen to adjust things.
Same as other modern EVs too. I’ve been learning to use voice control for AC since this vid