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Hey Tom. First, thanks for the video. Second, I have a question you may be able to answer: I know M2Pro and M2Zoom's difference, but is there any way to zoom in while filming with Mavic2Pro? Even digital zoom in, or any trick to zoom without having to edit the films on PC.
Thank you for the hard work you did, never clicked so fast!!! But honestly, it'd be better to use D-Cinelike with reduced contrast instead of D-Log for P4P to match the ISO100 of the M2P.
I did some tests with my P4P-v2 for a client who does more postproduction then I do. And we decided that the D-Cinelike w/100 iso / -1,-1,-1 for Sharpness, contrast & Saturation was best for most situations for him. Like to hear what others have come up with.
@@jeffellis6544 I have been using similar settings on my p4p ever since it came out and have not changed them, was wondering if it was worth checking see if they fixed D-log but seems not.
Aurora07 D-Log looks like it’s got so much more latitude for highlight and shadow- but apparently -at least for the Phantom series- it’s not possible to fully bring back your end points to true white or black. It crushes the ends of the histogram. D-Cinelike really improves your detail on both ends and allows us to bring the ends back to get the full use of the tonal range. That’s my understanding of it anyway.
Great points, great tests. You really did you due diligence to create this video. I work in the printing industry and I can tell you the reason your colour test was off so much on both cameras is that all digital cameras have trouble reproducing ink pigments. Both cameras are probably better than they looked in terms of colour accuracy when filming natural colour scenes.
Thank for that bro really really appreciated . However I still choose the MP2pro purely for portability. I actually owed p4pro obsidian and mavic air. But since sold them both and kept the mavic 2 pro. Extremely happy. The footage is perfect to the untrained eye. So the client may not even notice once edited correctly. But I do love you work so pls keep it going.
I agree: look at the all of the work Tom went through just to be able to display a difference that will never really show up for even the better trained eyes when shooting pictures and videos. Actually; different shooting styles might display a totally different outcome. Forget lugging around a large drone!
Thank you for putting this video together. It is very satisfying to have some definitive answers to some very technical questions in the public discussion. I liken these distinctions to those of food connoisseurs and deeply involved photo editors. Most consumers and even many professionals would probably never be able to tell the difference. Image quality at this level is all relatively fine over all. You did however settle many nagging esoteric questions that hard headed photo experts have brought up about DJI M2P vs P2P. Thanks again
Thanks so much for your hard work, Tom! Your thoroughness is very appreciated!! FWIW, I contacted DJI about the M2P barrel distortion and, in a nutshell, their answer was that the M2P simply does not have the onboard processing power (within a small foldable form factor) to finalize when shooting in DLog-M or HLG (10bit) color profiles. ...but it DOES correct/process more when on the standard color (8bit) setting...which I find still surprisingly good. Perhaps it would be interesting to compare the two drones both on 8bit standard color modes... as possibly the M2P is compromising maybe a bit too much to get that 10bit color. ...as well as to see if on the M2P alone if there are differences in sharpness between the 8bit in and 10bit color modes. It would be great to see where the M2P compromises and where it does not. Thanks again and Cheers! Joe NYC
Joe, I also wondered about that. So I shot about the same view in Normal Hlog and Dlog and honestly I found that, it was a very cloudy day with blue spots, the normal mode gave me the most detail within the white clouds -excellent dynamic range. But at the same time it is more difficult then to color correct. However the dlog is so flat, that you seem to do anything when faced with difficult lighting.
Absolutely the best image comparison video on TH-cam! I've been waiting for someone to do something other than flying 2 drones around at different times with different FOV's.. This is a far more scientific and controlled. No wonder DJI elected to reintroduce the Phantom 4 Pro 2.0
Good work Tom. This was as thorough as anyone could ask for. Your test confirmed what I could already see, on your footage when you tested the Mavic 2 Pro. I downloaded the raw footage from your website and processed it with DaVinci Resolve.
Hi Tom, as I said before, great technical comparison. Nice Job. Tom, a difficult question I suppose, but I own the P4p v1 and considered the M2p for a back-up to my P4p, do you think when you show up at a clients site the perception is there that the smaller drone M2p is not professional. There is a stigma that bigger is more professional like the Inspire 1 or 2. I have to explain the P4p is capable machine some of the times, I am little concern I would have to explain a lot for M2p. Would you invest in the M2p if you had the P4p or save a little more and get the Inspire 2 or wait for Phantom 5? I am leaning towards P5. The Inspire looks to be a nightmare to transport. I think I would like the portable size of the Mavic series. So torn on what to do......... What would you do?
@@LukeMaximoBell1 So true, I' m sure that is different for a Hollywood production, but for real estate shoot, roof inspections, wedding, etc. these 20 megapixel /4K cameras are so great. I love my P4p and even more after watching Tom's comparison video. But even the P4p is a pain to transport, especially when flying in small regional jets like the ERJ-145.
Great review, I own and use both these drones. Your "best" settings found by technical methods match exactly what I have found to be the "best" settings found by trial and error, although I never go above ISO 100 on my Phantom 4 Pro V2. However, the IQ of the Mavic 2 Pro is still really good also. (In HQ mode). Love both these drones, and highly recommend them both. The dynamic range on both is also very good. I'm not a hardcore DJI fanboy in that I also fly Autel, but from a technical standpoint I got to call it like I sees it ha-ha.
Good video. But good luck getting answers from DJI regarding these observations. People have been asking quite a bit on the forums and DJI seems to be quiet about it.
I’ll agree that the P4P is sharper than the M2P, but if it takes a video as detailed as this to find that out, then is it really that big of a difference? I’ll pick the M2P any day as it also has the better dynamic range and color like you said.
Thanks Tom, fantastic work as usual. I always look forward to seeing your new work. Although some may criticize parts of the analysis, I find that it is excellent overall and clears the air on many questions . Thanks , Sam
What bothers me the most about all the hype around the Mavic 2 Pro is that to get the best video quality one is forced to use the HQ version which crops in the sensor defeating the purpose of the 1 inch sensor to begin with.
Great review as ever Tom. A lot of time spent making this video showing the comparisons between the two drone camera's. It is appreciated mate. We'll done.👍
So if the P4 Pro is applying lens processing in real time but the M2 Pro is not, then can you show a comparison of post production video of the M2 Pro footage that applied lens correction and sharpness processing applied next to straight out of camera footage of the P4 Pro?
Great Video Tom ! Thank you for investing the time to walk through all the small details. Do you think there will be any different result if you will shoot on Dcinelike? Or is shouldn't change the lens distortion and the sharpening?
I Tom, I love your work. I’m only half way through your video, but have noticed that you didn’t reframe the drone’s cameras, so that they cover the identical area. The P4P has a 24mm (equiv.) lens, the M2P has a 28mm in FOV and 40mm in HD. All of these need adjusting in distance from the chart. Once again, keep up the good work.
Great comparison mate. I guess you need to ask yourself the question. Do you wan't something small to travel with or does size not matter to you. If size doesn't bother you then The P4P is your best option. But if you travel and want something that doesn't need a suitcase. Then the Mavic is for you. Either way, you can't go wrong with either of them. There are many videos from TH-cam travel vloggers using the Mavic now due to its ultra small size. And the footage is stunning. If you are a typical TH-cam viewer watching videos on a smartphone or a table. You wont be able to tell the difference. Watching on a 70 inch 4K BIG screen though, can reveal a different story. In that case the P4P comes out a winner in my opinion..
one correction, the Mavic 2 Pro doesn't actually have 14 stops of Dynamic Range. That's a marketing claim for the HDR mode. In normal mode it should be close or a little worse than the P4P. Good vid btw :)
As you have your test cards already. It would be nice to see some camera comparisons with other drones. I am really tempted by the Autel EVO. It would be really handy to see a direct comparison with the P4P.
Thanks for the hard work on this. I am curious how the two compare outside, also the MP2 in comparison to version 1. I mainly use my MP1 for photos, but don't like most photos against the sun. Is the M2P better on this? Also the flexible aperture should provide benefits? Furthermore when light disappears, I would expect there is a larger difference with the 1" sensors, isn't it? Thanks from Germany
Wow ... Just impressive the work done! Honestly, you're great. I cannot invite you and beer, but any time you come by to Madrid. I'll be glad to invite you! Thanks for your time in investigating with the drones. It's really helpful to all of us.
Thanks for this very involved work, Tom. I have been trying to choose between either the Mavic 2 Pro, the Phantom 4 Pro + or waiting for Phantom 5. With no real indication of a release date for Phantom 5 in sight, yesterday, I chose to order Phantom 4 Pro +. Why? I wanted to get the best overall performer in this general category actually available now. I gave up 10 bit color, portability and the coolness factor of the Mavic 2 Pro because of the sensor cropping, distortion and slow implementation of promised features through firmware updates to date. Phantom 4 Pro is fully implemented and will, although with less color depth, require less post processing. Yes, i will probably regret purchasing yesterday if Phantom 5 comes out next week. Such is life.
in Australia we have a company called "office Works" you can get prints as large as that on a single sheet for around $40 Au. Approx 1.2 m x 0.9m. i think the sizes were called things like AO, B0 or something. anyway, I had a couple of lightning photographs that I had taken blown up. I was extremely satisfied with the price and quality. If I wanted a giant test card (which I may well do some day soon) I would get it printed at office works. Surely the country you are in has a similar printing option on the cheap? :D Great video Danke Anke.
Good effort. Although no one who is a little more technical and well researched wont use the dlog on p4pro. Its not technically feasible and should not be tested at all. Mavic 2 pros final result is underwhelming and its not debatable. Maybe you could do the same charts for photo as well? Interesting to see the raw result comparison at identcial settings.
The Phantom 4 Pro looks way to oversharpend, to much artifacts on edges witch is a no go for me. M2P is more cinematic, dynamic range, color handling. I had a P4. Love my M2P in all aspects!! Thanks for this great video!
I was wondering if anyone else saw the horrible outlines on everything high contrast in the P4P footage. You can't get that out in post! Also... the DLOG-M profile is intentionally unsharpened. That's to avoid that extra noise we see in the P4P.
I added more sharpness like +2-2+0 on a normal mode for daytime with my M2P last Sunday and I'm going to test +1-2-2 for low light when the rains stops after 2 days.
Even if i'm not after buying any of the gadgets you reviewed, i have enjoyed very much all your videos. Keep going. Also, you should try to start reviewing professional cinema gear too. Best of lucks!
Great test. I was surprised to see some of the results of the M2P, I thought it was a bit better than it showed in those tests. Still, since the P4P does processing, even in DLOG, it's not a fair comparison of the camera/lens capability on a couple of the tests. Either way, I'm glad I don't have the money right this moment to buy as I'd go crazy trying to pick one! I like the M2P for its compactness, stability in wind and it's better low light/night performance. I like the sharpness and quality of the P4P's camera for daylight shooting, and I also like the zoom capability of the M2Zoom. I guess what I want is a M2P with the M2Zoom's lens zoom capability and the P4P's daytime clarity and quality. Lol. I hope the new Mavic Pro comes out soon (maybe around the time the Phantom 5 comes out) and then we'll see.
I can't get past the horrible outlines on everything high contrast in the P4P footage. You can't get that out in post! Also... the DLOG-M profile is intentionally unsharpened. That's to avoid that extra noise and artifacts we see in the P4P. If you want to compare sharpness between the two, it needs to be done in the normal color profile. DLOG and DLOG-M are not the same. Either is an amazing drone and camera. Get the one that suits your needs best. Great video!
Dji just doesnt want the mavic line to canibalise the phantom. Hopefully p5 coming out this year so i can finally pick my drone. I sold the zoom and hold on to my money..maybe buy a spark for fun atm
Lol. We know that right now M2P is not processing lens distortion in hw in dlog, while P4P does. If you are shooting in Dlog, post processing is mandatory so I don't get why applying an easy lens correction in post can pose any problem! Good job on color accuracy, and interesting result on the best aperture. Everyone on YT seems suggesting about F3.5 or F4
Small addition: on the P4P sharpness test have a look at the text. You can clearly see the bright halo around the edges and that usually indicates some internal processing, even at 0 sharpness.
Great review; but "clearly" there is not enough difference in image quality to consider lugging around a P4 type of drone again. For me the mavic 2 pro hit the mark.
I agree-if portability is the name of the game, I'd like to see Tom do a test of this type between the Mavic Pro original-and this.Although the new Pro2 has many other great new features ( more sensors, quieter props and a better radio as examples), which attract me to it.
I agree. More portable, better flight time, cheaper batteries, more sensors, more capable (hyperlapse etc), more flight range, more dynamic range, but most important... 10bit color is the future.
Considering that you can now get the Phantom 4 Pro for much less than the Mavic 2 Pro, unless portability is a must, the P4 pro is a much better purchase. All comparison videos I have seen from well known youtubers basically show the same results!
just want to say one thing after "studying, and using sony a7s II for couple of years. They all recomend to apply shaprness in POST, NOT in the camera :) I believe thats a generasl rule, and thats why all pro recomend to turn off sharpnes in cam, this is obvoiusly for us, that always grade footage :)
Same misguided conclusions as often uttered in amateur photography forums. The P4P output has much more sharpening applied and shows extreme halos to an extent that makes it almost unusable as a basis for postprocessing. You can't apply any sharpening on your own on that without introducing more artifacts. And the amount of sharpening you want on a particular scene depends on the subject and the light and everything, so it should almost always be done in post if you're at all serious about your production. Same with distortion: your workflow should include proper profiles anyway, and once you have it automated, it's a non-issue. I wouldn't use the P4P footage without correction either, so what's the deal? Not to mention that this test completely ignores photography. With photos you can also use RAW images that by definition omit the onboard processing that all compressed video formats and JPG stills have.
As one who shoots more stills than video I definitely would like to see tests like this for Raw stills. I do appreciate Toms efforts here. In practical use for many, this is still a useful comparison. For you two previous commenters, how would you do your settings on the P4P to counteract the in camera processing?
Thanks for posting this Tom - just been trying to decide which to go for (ok I really want both yeah ... ) :D. The P4P is really impressive but with the final sharpness there is still the problem of ghosting around contrasted edges which is nasty. I'd really like to see how the zoom compares too.
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Brilliant video! Crazy in-depth! Good work, Tom! 😁🔥👍
Charts, math, and penalty points. Yep, you’re German, alright 🤓 Pretty extensive sharpness testing. I appreciate all of your hard work.
Wow! I finally found a video that answered a lot of my questions. Good work Tom and thank you kindly.
I have both and i still prefer the p4p. Great executed test buddy. Thanks
I don't know why I noticed, but the stock photo at 16:26 shows the foam piece on the gimbal. weird
Hey Tom. First, thanks for the video. Second, I have a question you may be able to answer: I know M2Pro and M2Zoom's difference, but is there any way to zoom in while filming with Mavic2Pro? Even digital zoom in, or any trick to zoom without having to edit the films on PC.
Boa pergunta, também quero saber! Vc já sabe se isso e possível?
Thank you for the hard work you did, never clicked so fast!!!
But honestly, it'd be better to use D-Cinelike with reduced contrast instead of D-Log for P4P to match the ISO100 of the M2P.
Agree with you 100%
I did some tests with my P4P-v2 for a client who does more postproduction then I do. And we decided that the D-Cinelike w/100 iso / -1,-1,-1 for Sharpness, contrast & Saturation was best for most situations for him.
Like to hear what others have come up with.
@@jeffellis6544 I have been using similar settings on my p4p ever since it came out and have not changed them, was wondering if it was worth checking see if they fixed D-log but seems not.
Aurora07
D-Log looks like it’s got so much more latitude for highlight and shadow- but apparently -at least for the Phantom series- it’s not possible to fully bring back your end points to true white or black. It crushes the ends of the histogram.
D-Cinelike really improves your detail on both ends and allows us to bring the ends back to get the full use of the tonal range. That’s my understanding of it anyway.
Great points, great tests. You really did you due diligence to create this video. I work in the printing industry and I can tell you the reason your colour test was off so much on both cameras is that all digital cameras have trouble reproducing ink pigments. Both cameras are probably better than they looked in terms of colour accuracy when filming natural colour scenes.
Absolutely superb review...one of the finest productions I've ever seen on youtube.
can u do this again with the zoom v the pro please I think a lot be very interested in it coming up to black Friday and the holidays
Yes, please. Zoom vs Pro or vs Air.
Hi Tom. Did DJI get back to you?
Outstanding test.
Thank for that bro really really appreciated . However I still choose the MP2pro purely for portability. I actually owed p4pro obsidian and mavic air. But since sold them both and kept the mavic 2 pro. Extremely happy. The footage is perfect to the untrained eye. So the client may not even notice once edited correctly. But I do love you work so pls keep it going.
I agree: look at the all of the work Tom went through just to be able to display a difference that will never really show up for even the better trained eyes when shooting pictures and videos. Actually; different shooting styles might display a totally different outcome. Forget lugging around a large drone!
Thank you for putting this video together. It is very satisfying to have some definitive answers to some very technical questions in the public discussion. I liken these distinctions to those of food connoisseurs and deeply involved photo editors. Most consumers and even many professionals would probably never be able to tell the difference. Image quality at this level is all relatively fine over all. You did however settle many nagging esoteric questions that hard headed photo experts have brought up about DJI M2P vs P2P. Thanks again
pro will see difference in second. and it was evidently from first m2p videos on..
thanks, for all your hard work with this video, any chance a comparison video on still images for us photographers
Thanks so much for your hard work, Tom! Your thoroughness is very appreciated!!
FWIW, I contacted DJI about the M2P barrel distortion and, in a nutshell, their answer was that the M2P simply does not have the onboard processing power (within a small foldable form factor) to finalize when shooting in DLog-M or HLG (10bit) color profiles. ...but it DOES correct/process more when on the standard color (8bit) setting...which I find still surprisingly good.
Perhaps it would be interesting to compare the two drones both on 8bit standard color modes... as possibly the M2P is compromising maybe a bit too much to get that 10bit color. ...as well as to see if on the M2P alone if there are differences in sharpness between the 8bit in and 10bit color modes. It would be great to see where the M2P compromises and where it does not.
Thanks again and Cheers!
Joe
NYC
Joe, I also wondered about that. So I shot about the same view in Normal Hlog and Dlog and honestly I found that, it was a very cloudy day with blue spots, the normal mode gave me the most detail within the white clouds -excellent dynamic range. But at the same time it is more difficult then to color correct. However the dlog is so flat, that you seem to do anything when faced with difficult lighting.
I want to the result for the image, is the sharpness of the photo of m2p better than p4p?
Absolutely the best image comparison video on TH-cam! I've been waiting for someone to do something other than flying 2 drones around at different times with different FOV's.. This is a far more scientific and controlled. No wonder DJI elected to reintroduce the Phantom 4 Pro 2.0
Good work Tom. This was as thorough as anyone could ask for. Your test confirmed what I could already see, on your footage when you tested the Mavic 2 Pro. I downloaded the raw footage from your website and processed it with DaVinci Resolve.
Hi Tom, as I said before, great technical comparison. Nice Job.
Tom, a difficult question I suppose, but I own the P4p v1 and considered the M2p for a back-up to my P4p, do you think when you show up at a clients site the perception is there that the smaller drone M2p is not professional. There is a stigma that bigger is more professional like the Inspire 1 or 2. I have to explain the P4p is capable machine some of the times, I am little concern I would have to explain a lot for M2p. Would you invest in the M2p if you had the P4p or save a little more and get the Inspire 2 or wait for Phantom 5? I am leaning towards P5. The Inspire looks to be a nightmare to transport. I think I would like the portable size of the Mavic series. So torn on what to do......... What would you do?
Addy Overbeeke I have the same concern. But I think what it comes down to most is your footage. So they must stop complaining. Haha
@@LukeMaximoBell1 So true, I' m sure that is different for a Hollywood production, but for real estate shoot, roof inspections, wedding, etc. these 20 megapixel /4K cameras are so great. I love my P4p and even more after watching Tom's comparison video. But even the P4p is a pain to transport, especially when flying in small regional jets like the ERJ-145.
Please make a comparison between the X7 and X5S in photo mode for Inspire2!
Hey Tom! TY for these videos bro, they are without a doubt some of the most helpful and most professionally made on all of TH-cam for droners
This is the best Comparison test u have ever done on this channel...lol ...Now i can refine the settings on my P4pro even more..Thanks Tom.
Ton of work has been put into this video, thanks for sharing. Great work keep it up :)
Great video Tom! Thank you for taking the time to do all these tests.
DANKE für diese Riesenarbeit! Well done Bro.
Thanks for all the work you did on this. It really has helped me decide which drone to purchase.
Great review, I own and use both these drones. Your "best" settings found by technical methods match exactly what I have found to be the "best" settings found by trial and error, although I never go above ISO 100 on my Phantom 4 Pro V2. However, the IQ of the Mavic 2 Pro is still really good also. (In HQ mode). Love both these drones, and highly recommend them both. The dynamic range on both is also very good. I'm not a hardcore DJI fanboy in that I also fly Autel, but from a technical standpoint I got to call it like I sees it ha-ha.
Good video. But good luck getting answers from DJI regarding these observations. People have been asking quite a bit on the forums and DJI seems to be quiet about it.
Awesome! I admire your thoroughness when comparing different devices. Thank you!
I’ll agree that the P4P is sharper than the M2P, but if it takes a video as detailed as this to find that out, then is it really that big of a difference? I’ll pick the M2P any day as it also has the better dynamic range and color like you said.
Thanks Tom, fantastic work as usual. I always look forward to seeing your new work. Although some may criticize parts of the analysis, I find that it is excellent overall and clears the air on many questions . Thanks , Sam
Really nice analysis. Clearly a lot of work went into that. Great job there, thanks!
What bothers me the most about all the hype around the Mavic 2 Pro is that to get the best video quality one is forced to use the HQ version which crops in the sensor defeating the purpose of the 1 inch sensor to begin with.
Does it crop it or zoom in a bit? A bit of zoom makes it feel more cinematic than having 24mm wide open.
Great review as ever Tom. A lot of time spent making this video showing the comparisons between the two drone camera's. It is appreciated mate. We'll done.👍
All four thumbs up on this comparison (feet included). Lots of issues explained thoroughly.
Hi Tom! Did you get your answers from DJI?
Sick comparison! Amazing work.
I said it before but I will keep my P4P Obsidian model very happy with it.
Nice test.. as always!
So if the P4 Pro is applying lens processing in real time but the M2 Pro is not, then can you show a comparison of post production video of the M2 Pro footage that applied lens correction and sharpness processing applied next to straight out of camera footage of the P4 Pro?
Great Video Tom ! Thank you for investing the time to walk through all the small details.
Do you think there will be any different result if you will shoot on Dcinelike? Or is shouldn't change the lens distortion and the sharpening?
I Tom, I love your work.
I’m only half way through your video, but have noticed that you didn’t reframe the drone’s cameras, so that they cover the identical area. The P4P has a 24mm (equiv.) lens, the M2P has a 28mm in FOV and 40mm in HD. All of these need adjusting in distance from the chart.
Once again, keep up the good work.
jmolesworth he did that for this test
@luke He changed the distance, but the framing was different.
amazing work. thanks for the video.
Awesome Review!
Great comparison mate. I guess you need to ask yourself the question. Do you wan't something small to travel with or does size not matter to you. If size doesn't bother you then The P4P is your best option. But if you travel and want something that doesn't need a suitcase. Then the Mavic is for you. Either way, you can't go wrong with either of them. There are many videos from TH-cam travel vloggers using the Mavic now due to its ultra small size. And the footage is stunning. If you are a typical TH-cam viewer watching videos on a smartphone or a table. You wont be able to tell the difference. Watching on a 70 inch 4K BIG screen though, can reveal a different story. In that case the P4P comes out a winner in my opinion..
Great work, thanks
one correction, the Mavic 2 Pro doesn't actually have 14 stops of Dynamic Range. That's a marketing claim for the HDR mode. In normal mode it should be close or a little worse than the P4P. Good vid btw :)
What about solely for stills? shame you only looked at 4k modes
very detailed work
What about photos? Do you find similar results when shooting raw images?
Great work Tom.
Hi Tom, why have you not tested the photo quality from the Mavic 2 Pro vs the P4P? I do not care about video but only about Photo. Thanks. Bernhard
Excellent video ! Btw, how about the Mavic Air ?
As you have your test cards already. It would be nice to see some camera comparisons with other drones. I am really tempted by the Autel EVO. It would be really handy to see a direct comparison with the P4P.
Thanks for the hard work on this. I am curious how the two compare outside, also the MP2 in comparison to version 1. I mainly use my MP1 for photos, but don't like most photos against the sun. Is the M2P better on this? Also the flexible aperture should provide benefits? Furthermore when light disappears, I would expect there is a larger difference with the 1" sensors, isn't it? Thanks from Germany
Wow ... Just impressive the work done! Honestly, you're great. I cannot invite you and beer, but any time you come by to Madrid. I'll be glad to invite you!
Thanks for your time in investigating with the drones. It's really helpful to all of us.
can you tell the name of the music please?
You’re the real MVP!
Thanks .... What about still pictures?
so... in the M2P the normal color profile the sharpness will be best?
Thanks for this very involved work, Tom. I have been trying to choose between either the Mavic 2 Pro, the Phantom 4 Pro + or waiting for Phantom 5. With no real indication of a release date for Phantom 5 in sight, yesterday, I chose to order Phantom 4 Pro +. Why? I wanted to get the best overall performer in this general category actually available now. I gave up 10 bit color, portability and the coolness factor of the Mavic 2 Pro because of the sensor cropping, distortion and slow implementation of promised features through firmware updates to date. Phantom 4 Pro is fully implemented and will, although with less color depth, require less post processing. Yes, i will probably regret purchasing yesterday if Phantom 5 comes out next week. Such is life.
But you can always sell it and upgrade to the P5 if you want that when it comes out.
in Australia we have a company called "office Works" you can get prints as large as that on a single sheet for around $40 Au. Approx 1.2 m x 0.9m. i think the sizes were called things like AO, B0 or something. anyway, I had a couple of lightning photographs that I had taken blown up. I was extremely satisfied with the price and quality. If I wanted a giant test card (which I may well do some day soon) I would get it printed at office works. Surely the country you are in has a similar printing option on the cheap? :D Great video Danke Anke.
Great comparison. You should do the same comparison between the Autel evo and Mavic 2 pro!
Good effort. Although no one who is a little more technical and well researched wont use the dlog on p4pro. Its not technically feasible and should not be tested at all. Mavic 2 pros final result is underwhelming and its not debatable. Maybe you could do the same charts for photo as well? Interesting to see the raw result comparison at identcial settings.
I suppose you tested the sharpness only on center of the frame, what about the corners? Many people ignore that aspect and it's very important.
The Phantom 4 Pro looks way to oversharpend, to much artifacts on edges witch is a no go for me.
M2P is more cinematic, dynamic range, color handling. I had a P4. Love my M2P in all aspects!! Thanks for this great video!
I was wondering if anyone else saw the horrible outlines on everything high contrast in the P4P footage. You can't get that out in post! Also... the DLOG-M profile is intentionally unsharpened. That's to avoid that extra noise we see in the P4P.
I have a dji spark and I love it so much, the only thing I would upgrade to would be a zoom or pro 2
I added more sharpness like +2-2+0 on a normal mode for daytime with my M2P last Sunday and I'm going to test +1-2-2 for low light when the rains stops after 2 days.
Even if i'm not after buying any of the gadgets you reviewed, i have enjoyed very much all your videos. Keep going. Also, you should try to start reviewing professional cinema gear too. Best of lucks!
Could you be fixed with firmware on the mp2?
Probably actually, but I don't think DJI would ever do that. Unless the camera processor isn't as powerful as P4P.
@@LukeMaximoBell1 I know they have some sensor fixes on gopros in the past. Crossing my fingers they can do something!
Why didn't you test the dynamic range and the stills quality, I mean the photography, not video?
Great test. I was surprised to see some of the results of the M2P, I thought it was a bit better than it showed in those tests. Still, since the P4P does processing, even in DLOG, it's not a fair comparison of the camera/lens capability on a couple of the tests.
Either way, I'm glad I don't have the money right this moment to buy as I'd go crazy trying to pick one! I like the M2P for its compactness, stability in wind and it's better low light/night performance. I like the sharpness and quality of the P4P's camera for daylight shooting, and I also like the zoom capability of the M2Zoom. I guess what I want is a M2P with the M2Zoom's lens zoom capability and the P4P's daytime clarity and quality. Lol. I hope the new Mavic Pro comes out soon (maybe around the time the Phantom 5 comes out) and then we'll see.
I can't get past the horrible outlines on everything high contrast in the P4P footage. You can't get that out in post! Also... the DLOG-M profile is intentionally unsharpened. That's to avoid that extra noise and artifacts we see in the P4P. If you want to compare sharpness between the two, it needs to be done in the normal color profile. DLOG and DLOG-M are not the same. Either is an amazing drone and camera. Get the one that suits your needs best.
Great video!
Dji just doesnt want the mavic line to canibalise the phantom. Hopefully p5 coming out this year so i can finally pick my drone. I sold the zoom and hold on to my money..maybe buy a spark for fun atm
Great Video again! I own the P4p and my first question was '' How did you focus???'' these cameras ain't good at close distances!!
31Solvap - I’m also curious - what is the actual closest distance the P4P can focus?
Great job! I would like a test with still images as well though. I only use my drones for still photography.
Stills will render a much much smaller difference.
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Lol. We know that right now M2P is not processing lens distortion in hw in dlog, while P4P does. If you are shooting in Dlog, post processing is mandatory so I don't get why applying an easy lens correction in post can pose any problem! Good job on color accuracy, and interesting result on the best aperture. Everyone on YT seems suggesting about F3.5 or F4
Small addition: on the P4P sharpness test have a look at the text. You can clearly see the bright halo around the edges and that usually indicates some internal processing, even at 0 sharpness.
Great review; but "clearly" there is not enough difference in image quality to consider lugging around a P4 type of drone again. For me the mavic 2 pro hit the mark.
I agree-if portability is the name of the game, I'd like to see Tom do a test of this type between the Mavic Pro original-and this.Although the new Pro2 has many other great new features ( more sensors, quieter props and a better radio as examples), which attract me to it.
I agree. More portable, better flight time, cheaper batteries, more sensors, more capable (hyperlapse etc), more flight range, more dynamic range, but most important... 10bit color is the future.
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Digital sharpness was compared with - 3 2 + 3? What
Considering that you can now get the Phantom 4 Pro for much less than the Mavic 2 Pro, unless portability is a must, the P4 pro is a much better purchase. All comparison videos I have seen from well known youtubers basically show the same results!
The horizontal line test should at least been tested in h.264
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just want to say one thing after "studying, and using sony a7s II for couple of years. They all recomend to apply shaprness in POST, NOT in the camera :) I believe thats a generasl rule, and thats why all pro recomend to turn off sharpnes in cam, this is obvoiusly for us, that always grade footage :)
I'm always running +3 on the DJI and even increasing some sharpness in post makes it look nicer.
I still think the P4P is the best drone on the market. I own the Inspire 2 and the Mavic 2 Pro. I wouldn't sell the P4P.
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ISO 100 v ISO 500 is not fair...
I thought the same, when I first noticed. But he did explain why. Plus the P4P still beat the Mavic even with disadvantage.
imo phantom on sharp setting 0 still uses digital sharpening and on -1 is the best
Is the mavic2pro 1" sensor not fully used for photos too?
No, it's 100% used for photo.
Great cuz I care more for photos than I do video!
WHY DOES THE YELLOW LOOK THE SAME NOW WHEN THEN WERE SO DIFFERENT IN THE BEGINNING? Sorry for caps
Of course only phantom 4 pro plus v2. Thanks.
Same misguided conclusions as often uttered in amateur photography forums. The P4P output has much more sharpening applied and shows extreme halos to an extent that makes it almost unusable as a basis for postprocessing. You can't apply any sharpening on your own on that without introducing more artifacts. And the amount of sharpening you want on a particular scene depends on the subject and the light and everything, so it should almost always be done in post if you're at all serious about your production. Same with distortion: your workflow should include proper profiles anyway, and once you have it automated, it's a non-issue. I wouldn't use the P4P footage without correction either, so what's the deal?
Not to mention that this test completely ignores photography. With photos you can also use RAW images that by definition omit the onboard processing that all compressed video formats and JPG stills have.
I agree entirely. There are over-sharpening artefacts on the P4 to my eyes whereas the M2P whilst appearing less sharp, have much less.
As one who shoots more stills than video I definitely would like to see tests like this for Raw stills.
I do appreciate Toms efforts here. In practical use for many, this is still a useful comparison.
For you two previous commenters, how would you do your settings on the P4P to counteract the in camera processing?
nope, it is not over boosted sharpness. it's poor optical resolution of lens/camera combo on p2p. period.
izoyt do you know as a fact that this is the case?
mm8276352 I’m just wondering, do you have any proof that this is the case?
Thanks for posting this Tom - just been trying to decide which to go for (ok I really want both yeah ... ) :D.
The P4P is really impressive but with the final sharpness there is still the problem of ghosting around contrasted edges which is nasty. I'd really like to see how the zoom compares too.
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I prefer the phantom 4 pro. Sharper photos and more natural looking colors. I am not a mavic 2 pro fan.
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