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Not sure if it's just me but most of those links you included in the description don't go anywhere. Hope you see this so you can update those links. Always down to see other BoomShoot content creators. Edit: Seems to be fixed, Cheers!
Thakyou Kirk! They should have reached out to Zlim and worked with him and other creators to fix the game and address the issues. Devs attacking and mocking fans is self destructive.
My favorites so far of recent boomershooters (10s/20s) have been Dusk and Prodeus I kinda just buy some whenever i have the money which is usually once or twice a year and play em because I love retro shooters
Appreciate the kind words for Zlimbratski, he’s a good dude who’s just trying to get started in the “industry” of TH-cam boomer shooter reviews. As I pointed out in the comment sections on his channel I find it ironic for Slipgate to target him specifically given he was like the only TH-camr to give a positive review for Graven, everyone else called the game a piece of crap.
Brilliant foreword Kirk! Very class and respectful without demonizing or glorifying anyone unnecessarily. Amazing review as always, one of the best boom shoot youtubers!
The whole thing with the leaks and disparaging comments, I think it's whatever. They can say what they wanna say, they can call us whatever names they want. I don't think it's a big deal. The larger issue is the attitude it reveals about their own product, which is obviously really flawed. Their reaction reveals that they actually think the released product is not only acceptable but great. And THAT is truly far more concerning than some name calling in their private discord. Thanks for the review. Good work as always, Kirk.
Yeah unfortunately 3D Realms is quickly becoming a brand I’m avoiding now. Besides Cultic which is probably my favorite of the new retro shooters…Cultic or Amid Evil. It’s toughz
Thanks for the comment Mayo! Yeah the private discord comments are one thing, it was everything after that was concerning and unfortunate. Its a red flag of what's going on there internally.
Kirk, that has to be one of the most powerful and touching intros of the century! Thank you a million times for the kind words and for addressing the situation in a respectful and mature manner friend. And as for the review, I've said it a million times and I'll say it a million more, absolutely top quality! My favorite creators are: Kirk, Gman and Icarus all friends and people I look up to in this space.
Oh, look the bald Swedish guy who drinks a giant thing of Vodka every stream. Kirk wasn't being nice to you Zlim he was trying to "make connections" to take advantage of your "friendship" for future content. Duh! :D (wub yew Zlim)
Thank you so much for showing love for my boy Zlimbratski! No one deserves to be slandered like that especially if they were making a great review like he did.
That dude is a fucking boomshoot machine, and snot-nosed kids accuse him (and others) of hating because... reasons? It must be pretty lonely to be the only studio that hardcore genre tubers consistently bash. Strong "meeting assholes all day" vibes.
You know what disappointed me the most of this whole deal? Jassoz Games (creator of Cultic) calling him out on twitter for diffamation and misinformation, I expected more from the only developer in 3DRealms besides Voidpoint who actually made a good game and listens to his community...
@@rosfell00 Wait, one of the Cultic devs said crap about Zlim? For what? As far as I remember, Zlim gave a fairly positive review of the first chapter of the game, didn't he? Not to mention, why do that at all? Sigh.
It's funny how false 3DR decided to diminish ZlimBratSki of everyone, but not Gman or even Civvie. I mean, those two has 1.2 million subscribers combined, they weren't willing to alienate probably 99% of their target audience, which says a lot about their lack of ethics and guts.
Eyyy a shoutout to my man Zlim! Love to see it, though wish it wasn't in this context. Thanks for deciding to do a the review regardless, giving Zlim some love and addressing what happened in the best way possible, couldn't agree more. Terrible stuff from 3DR/SGI.
The hypocrisy is real, everything he complained about is present in Ion but the boomer crowd jerk off to that game, a game that is nothing but throwing hordes of braindead enemies at you while running around a maze looking for keycards.
I disagree. I think if DNF had originally been released like this back when it was supposed to come out, it would've been met with critical acclaim. Yes, even with the bugs.
DNF is fine as a game. I'd rather play DNF than some of the utter trash we've gotten recently I'll tell you that much. And even with as many problems as Phantom Fury has, it's "not as bad" as DNF in that regard, though again I rather enjoyed DNF, so meh lol
Mad respect for you and appreciate the explanation for what's going on with 3D Realms. Had no idea that reviewers were having their opinions belittled by a studio who put out a game riddled with issues. Turns an okay game that I would normally keep my eye on into a game that I would rather not support if this is the sort of behavior the developers are exhibiting. The best game developers are the ones who recognize the faults in their games and put in the extra effort to address those issues. Thanks for helping me put my hard-earned cash toward boomer shooter developers who actually give a damn and won't treat people like s***!
Thank you for the review. It’s interesting to have different feedbacks. It’s safe to say this game has major technical issues. But the way devs treated Zlim is such a shame. One thing I would like to know is if you had trouble to progress through the game with the “riddles” and computers to interact in order to progress. One recurring feedback I’ve seen is people being stuck for a long time and not figuring out what to do to progress. That could explain why you enjoyed more the game than others.
Honestly those didn't really trip up the experience for me. There were a few times I got stuck from that but I was always able to deduce "oh I should check these computers, they probably have the code." IDK maybe it's the old school gamer in me but it wasn't an issue.
I totally agree it can be frustrating to see your work being criticized and frustrated like for example UndertheMayo I do find his criticisms a little Harsh but I find his meticulous analysis and the blunt blunt honesty of his criticisms to have validity because I can tell the guy has high standards and he can see when games have potential like when he reviewed Turbo Overkill he did his usual blunt disection but he also helped with the games development and fixed the flaws he identified even if Someone does treat your work harshly they do it for either A very legitimate reasons or B because they hold stuff like that up to very high standards.
And what "substance" did Ion have? All that game is from start to finish is an utter slog of mazes, braindead enemy hordes, and keycard hunting, i was already bored shitless of that anemic and creatively bankrupt design in 90s.
@@Spr1ggan87sounds like your personal taste because all that stuff (besides occasionally getting lost, which isnt a big deal) was an absolute blast for me and i love all the 90s shooters that play like that.
@@Spr1ggan87Yeah, it's definitely a taste thing because I absolutely adored Ion Fury and played it all the way through twice and completed the extra modes and could not WAIT for Aftershock. Seeing what happened to Phantom Fury hurts so much because I know it could have been a great game, possibly my favorite of the Nu-Boom-Shoot generation. I'm hoping someone will mod it or fan patch the problems and make the game just a little better
I mean you can talk about whatever you want on private discord, lets stop trying to monitor everyones opinion. People are allowed to vent does not need to constructive not respectful because it was private
It's not a great game, but not as bad as many people are claiming. Buggy for sure, I lost all arm and suit upgrades after the horrible mini submarine level :/
@@michaeljedlowski4227honestly I think it's just okay too. It kinda just feels like a build engine game that'd you forget about. I'm glad 3d realms are around but, eh. I hope they take the money from this to make something good.
I know you're a super nice guy with rarely anything negative to say and/or are super respectful when you say it... HOWEVER, the truth is 3D Realms is cancer. I recall bringing up some criticism of their games in the past on Steam and were met with devs who were outright toxic in their response. The publisher has also grossly mismanaged multiple projects, exploited their customers with big box preorders, and just generally released crappy game after crappy game. So colour me not surprised with what's happening with this latest trainwreck.
I kinda hate the driving sections. For example, i dont get why cars accelerate faster in reverse and overall seem faster in reverse. Or is it just me? I find driving forward very unsatisfying.
Damn. I remember playing a game that has that kind of driving quirk too. Not the "big rigs style" of uncapped top speed in reverse, but it has the quirk where, reversing is not beholden to the physics that driving forward does. Stronger acceleration and torque, nonexistent physics and collission, and full tire grip, meaning, you can literally reverse out of a bad situation, like getting stuck on a ditch or in between vehicles, and it's very much viable to use cars to climb mountains; just drive up trunk-first.
Most level-headed review I've seen for this game. I'll definitely keep it in my wishlist if the devs actually manage to fix all the glaring bugs. Seems like a decent game to play if purchased on sale.
Shelly seems to have a curse to always ignite needless drama whenever one of her games launches. At least 2 out of 3 now. That aside, I've been liking PF so far, it's fun! IF sure is much better, but IF is better than pretty much most other retro/boomer shooters.
Hey! I appreciate your balanced approach to the review. Though Ion Fury was so good, it makes sense many people would be let down by Phantom Fury, including me. Nevermind the social media shitstorm
Man the franchise itself seems so jumbled. Bombshell was isometric like those old Nukem games, Ion Fury was a 90s throwback (and a prequel), and now this one is another retro shooter but not too retro to not have dazzling effects. I think it would be hard for a newcomer to get into this and not go "so where is this all going?"
I think the studio needs to go back to basics and do something like ion fury vs duke nukem with ideas taken from alien Armageddon duke mod! That would be awesome to see
02:38 - It's a thing about 3DRealms that, long have raised my eyebrow towards them. With this recent debacle, to vacuum up so much ip in such a short time, that it shot them in the foot when the bills come due, and it turns out, they can't decently fund half of them(very salty at them dropping Core Decay, and is currently very nervous about Tempest Rising)...it REALLY feels like 3DRealms attempted(and failed) to "speedrun" the success and prestige of the likes of New Blood Interactive and Nightdive Studios. Utterly missing the big point that, the success of those two came from their patience on building up their catalogues. I am genuinely baffled on what the HECK just happened. Cultic, Ion Fury, Ghostrunner...then, like a flip of a switch; Graven, Wrath, Phantom Fury. These recent three are not terrible games. But they are incredibly lackluster. What's frustrating about those recent games is that, each of them were so damn CLOSE to being another very good batch of titles into the retro-FPS roster, but but really feels like they've been rushed out the door. And let's not forget the Kingpin Remaster by the way...
Favorite Boomer shooter channels? Civie 11, Icarus Lives, and yours. I haven't gotten this yet. It is on my wishlist, but I'm going to wait for patches and a sale.
Thank you for the review (it's nice to see you enjoyed it despite its flaws) and for that great intro. I agree; even if the reviews were harsh, the developers and people behind this product should understand where those negative opinions came from and try to improve with their next title.
Thank you so much for not being part of the cringe drama. It seems it also kinda hurt you, but you made an excellent balanced review. Thats respect. I think developers must adequately accept unconstructive criticism, but so do TH-camrs. I want a normal review from a TH-camr, and not a weapon to punish people who offend him or his colleagues. The fact that part of the community began to pretend like It's a new 'Hunt Down the Freeman' is super cringe imo (played it on release, guilty pleasure and it's nice).
Great review, and an even better, and powerful, opening statement. I barely have time to watch reviews and play games, let alone pay attention to adjacent drama that goes along with it... but unfortunately I got sucked in a bit a did pay attention this time. I have been watching you and Zlim for a couple years now and you two are very responsible for reigniting my love for 3d shooters. And even though I have interacted a lot with Zlim and not with you, its nice to know that the other creator I gravitated toward is a solid dude too. All that being said... I'll keep my eye on this game for the next several months and hope it gets some improvements/updates as it is right up my alley. If that point comes, I will jump on it. Thanks!
Found this review via google, as I had no idea where was a sequel to Ion Fury (which I am currently playing on Deck and am in love with it). Given that I grew up on these games and have seen the absolute jank in early FPS games, I'm pretty sure I can handle a few crappy AI bugs in a game trying to replicate an era that had its fair share of wonky AI. Gunplay looks fun and honestly, I really like Shelly. Might wait for a sale before I grab it though. Thanks for the middle-ground review.
Was glad to see you shout out ZlimBratSki. That guy puts in work and has made me aware of some great looking games that I haven't seen covered elsewhere and might not have found otherwise. Appreciate your thoughts on this one - I had high hopes for it and was a little deflated after seeing the early criticism for it because I wanted it to be excellent. I'm happy to hear that they worked on the shooting; it does look a bit more impactful in your footage than the earlier footage I'd seen. Looks like they've already issued the first patch, too, and although I'm glad to see bugs being squashed I really do hope they fix this one up right because Ion Fury really deserves a quality sequel. Love the attention to interactivity in this game but the bones need to be solid, boys! Prodeus doesn't have much you can interact with in comparison, but the shooting in that game is ohhh so satisfying.
Civvie, Trav & Zlim are cool. I don't always agree with their opinions but they show that actually care & they take no pleasure in giving out bad reviews. As for the game itself, this is the most fair review I've seen. It's a 6 outta ten, could've been much more but Slipgate management gotta Slipgate. Still better than fucking Graven tho.
I don't appreciate you calling out Zlimbratski. He's Swedish and bald. None of us in his community like him anymore, as he's gotten big enough that he ignores all of us in his stream chats and tells us he hates us for requesting games all the time so he has content to post. Plus, he smells like salted licorice and pastries. Obviously, I'm joking lol Zlim is awesome. Been a subscriber since he has about 280 subscribers, so it's awesome to see his channel grow like Kirk's here. The whole thing with 3D Realms and Slipgate and the leaked Discord chats, I mean what can you say to that? Just, well not very professional let's put nicely. Zlim is always so positive and obviously has a good time playing games and interacting with us - not to mention he is VERY rarely negative in his reviews of games even when the rest of us would be much more negative. The fact he specifically got "called out" so to speak like that, it is what it is but it's very disappointing coming from a popular indie shooter publisher and a company that doesn't have the best track record with games lately.
Thx for the review, Kirk.Sad to see Slipgate deliver another Title with major technical issues, and after what 3DReals pulled off with Zlimbratskis hands-on with the demo, I think, that i´ll be passing on this one ... at least until it plops up for a Quid or two on Fanatical. And well, let´s say, that from now on, I´ll be thinking twice about whether I buy a 3DRealms Game at release or not...
the running fov effect killed it for me. Got Motion sickness. Even if they implement, that I can deactivate that effect in the future I get instant sickness only from seeing the footage. Can't even watch your video sorry :(
The usual hypocrisy and crap from the boomer shooter crowd, the only good shooters are original DOOM and DOOM clones and that Half-Life ruined the genre and anything inspired by it is bad. When the reality is that boomer shooters are complete drivel, just mazes filled with braindead hordes, keycard hunts, and running in circles for hours trying to find x amount of obnoxiously placed secrets. I'll take games more like Half-Life, Tron 2.0, F.E.A.R., DOOM 3, Far Cry 1, Elite Force, Halo, NOLF, etc, over og DOOM clones any day of the week.
Appreciate your take on the discourse that went down, as the days pass I regret keeping HyperVerse silent on it when we perhaps should have covered it as an impartial media outlet, but at the time it just felt like I was would have been gossiping about friends and made me feel.....icky. Fantastic review too Kirk ❤🎉❤
Wrath and Graven are on my wishlist since a while ( as I prefered to go for games like Cultic before ), I'm interested by Phantom Fury since the day it was announced, as I liked the atmosphere from Ion Fury, but didn't enjoy to play it so much. Simple 3D is more enjoyable to me than complex 2D / complex 3D. More relaxing. I'm going to do like for Cyberpunk: wait for patches. And I'm sure AI problems could be solved, like vehicular sections. They might also add different enemies ? The arsenal looks dope. About the easiness, it means I might try another difficulty than normal this time 😂The thing that pleases me is the fact it's inspired by Half-Life, but more action oriented. I'm not a fan of enemies right now, like I wasn't for Half-Life's ones...If they can make enemies sneaky it could be fun. Like connecting them with a radio, and if one sees you, other ones would know, like in some Metal Gear's games.
My major pet peeve with FPS games is when it is fast paced and you have to do a lot of backing up[ and you keep getting stuck on the damn enviroment and it causes you to get done in and this was terrible for that. Fun game but very irritating at times and quite clunky unlike the first game and feels a tad rushed but still a good game.
Im dissapointed that the game apparently isnt as great as we were hoping. Controversially while i do like retro shooters like doom and duke 3d I seem to enjoy games based off halo,half life, other early 2000s fps and doom eternal more. Its a shame we dont have as many quality games in this subgenre compared to the 90s doom and quake style games.
I'm happy to see a more balanced take on this game because I think it objectively sits comfortably around a 7/10 and not the 3/10 that the negative hype would have you believe. HOWEVER -- and this is a big however-- there is no denying that the mediocre quality of content being prematurely pushed out of Shitgate Ironworks is killing 3D Realms as a company (we may see them perish for a second time now thanks to SI) and even going so far as to put a huge damper on the entirety of the throwback shooter scene. Because of SI's unholy trinity of mediocrity (Wrath, Graven and PF), hype for upcoming retro FPSes is dimming, which may mean that we won't see any more masterpiece releases like Dusk or Ultrakill in the future. Indeed, thanks to SI's incompetence and greed, we'll likely be stuck solely with 1-man-baby's-first-game type of projects for years to come within this genre. For their sins, Shitgate Ironwork's releases deserve all the flak they get and then some, even if it's not completely representative of the individual title in question. The general sentiment towards them will rightfully remain that way until they release something that is genuinely better than an 8/10 experience, which I don't think is possible for them.
My favourite crater is the one in South Africa, the world’s biggest but no crater on earth can hold a candle to all the craters on the moon! (Why are we shouting out our favourite craters?)
The level design is one of the worst ive seen in games in general in recent years. thats why no patches will help this game. and no review mentioned one thing - in the 10 hour campaign there are 12 enemies, including two tank encounters, stationary turrets and one soldier with 3 different types of armor counted as three.
I'm playing now and my largest gripe is the enemies. They're pretty boring. Mostly just guys with guns. I wanna fight aliens or monsters or robots or something badass. Not man with gun.
If wonder if Capstone was around these days, would people also cry about evil youtubers shitting on their trying-ever-so-hard underdog? I am so angry at this company, and all the second-hand goodwill they abuse. Shit like this can and will tank a whole subgenre of games.
Not Capstone but this reminds me of Rex Blade: The Apocalypse. The dev wanted to spend 12-18 months making the game good with some advanced features, but was instead only given 45 days for the alpha alone.
Excellent review as always but I’ll say this…I would rather purchase and play a game like this with its flaws instead of wasting money and time on most “triple A” games that are released these days.These smaller developers don’t have to release perfection every single time to catch my attention because I,like a lot of others love these games!Long live the boomer shooters!
Come on now, 3DR and SI have done this time and time again. This is midsized corporate complacency larping as aw-shucks indie limitation of resources. If you like this game, more power to you, but they are hardly the underdog here.
This game looks pretty fun in a "flawed but enjoyable" sort of way. The only problem is that it has to live up to Iron Fury but I'll look at this own it's merits, comparing games to only stuff in it's franchise is dumb dogmatic bullshit anyway, I am willing to most who do this probably play the same games over and over and then angry when you give their favorite game criticism.
I’m not sure on the specifics of what went down with the drama surrounding this game, but I will say I understand devs getting upset at the amount of criticism constantly being thrown their way by fans/reviewers for decisions not made by the devs themselves but instead made by their project managers/publishers. Especially over at 3DR, the comment sections under most of their trailers are super negative and not at all constructive from what I’ve seen. I feel like that must take a toll on the developers moral. I’m sure if it were up to the devs they would delay these games until the bugs/issues were ironed out instead of rushing them out the door then crunching to fix bugs in forthcoming patches. Feels kinda similar to what happened with cyberpunk. That being said there are some valid criticisms to be made here.
Game looks ok, i dont get whats so egregious about it. Mcmuscles put out a video that literally shows him having fun for 30 mins, says "hey its ok", and all of the comments were basically saying what a dumpster fire it was. Like they had watched a different video or something
@@mattc7420 Oh no, 3DR ARE blatantly homophobic and transphobic. I know that... but Ion Fury was so damn good, I ignored it. This game isn't good enough for me to overlook their unprofessionalism. I'm not surprised. TerminX and several other people on the 3DR forums back in the day were blatantly homophobic.
When was the last time you spoke crap about any game? Never but that is your style. O0n the other hand 3D Realms is just a name that used to stand for great games and that is it, a company that has a name but nothing behind it.
Game setting, design, graphics and mechanics set up to play like late-90s / early-00s FPS shooter by intention; criticized for playing like and looking like an late-90s / early-00s FPS shooter... I don't have a dog in this fight (watched the vid' from 4:00 to 8:50), I haven't even played the game-- and only mildly curious about it, but not really any more though, but I have to say--criticisms like I alluded to in the first sentence of this post is exactly why more and more I've just been giving up on YT reviews.
@@mattc7420 He is allowed to have all the opinions in the world, but saying "people just like to talk bad about everything" when almost all the FPS shills dislike this game is more than a little dishonest. Or pray tell, was Civvie paid off by Big Zortch, and then shat on PF because 3DR failed to pay the protection money? If you like the game, that is one thing, but this amount of copium is just sad.
Boomer Shooter standards are so high that people get pissed at decent games. Expectations . It's gonna be decent game once we forget about it and rediscover it again, but still even the sheer amount of crazy good doom mods/total conversions sets the bar really high.
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The moral of the story is: don’t let people who take advantage of peoples hatred towards EA, be allowed to make a video game
@@uria3679 Electronic Arts or Early Access? Because the latter did not do much for Graven or Wrath.
Not sure if it's just me but most of those links you included in the description don't go anywhere. Hope you see this so you can update those links. Always down to see other BoomShoot content creators. Edit: Seems to be fixed, Cheers!
@@cchutney348Electronic Arts
Thakyou Kirk! They should have reached out to Zlim and worked with him and other creators to fix the game and address the issues. Devs attacking and mocking fans is self destructive.
There have been just so many good Boomer Shooters in recent years that it takes a lot to stand out.
And Dusk and Amid Evil remain at the top.
Also takes a lot to be this controversial.
@@FergusFallasck I think Beyond Citadel might take the throne when it comes out
My favorites so far of recent boomershooters (10s/20s) have been Dusk and Prodeus
I kinda just buy some whenever i have the money which is usually once or twice a year and play em because I love retro shooters
@@henryfleischer404If you are a nasty Coomer wanker and like 2d anime girls it makes sense.
Appreciate the kind words for Zlimbratski, he’s a good dude who’s just trying to get started in the “industry” of TH-cam boomer shooter reviews. As I pointed out in the comment sections on his channel I find it ironic for Slipgate to target him specifically given he was like the only TH-camr to give a positive review for Graven, everyone else called the game a piece of crap.
Brilliant foreword Kirk! Very class and respectful without demonizing or glorifying anyone unnecessarily. Amazing review as always, one of the best boom shoot youtubers!
The whole thing with the leaks and disparaging comments, I think it's whatever. They can say what they wanna say, they can call us whatever names they want. I don't think it's a big deal. The larger issue is the attitude it reveals about their own product, which is obviously really flawed. Their reaction reveals that they actually think the released product is not only acceptable but great. And THAT is truly far more concerning than some name calling in their private discord.
Thanks for the review. Good work as always, Kirk.
And hardly the first time with them.
Yeah unfortunately 3D Realms is quickly becoming a brand I’m avoiding now.
Besides Cultic which is probably my favorite of the new retro shooters…Cultic or Amid Evil. It’s toughz
@@VinylMorpheuswhen you share space with Running with Scissors, that can change anyone
Thanks for the comment Mayo! Yeah the private discord comments are one thing, it was everything after that was concerning and unfortunate. Its a red flag of what's going on there internally.
@@uria3679 I’m not sure I follow?
Kirk, that has to be one of the most powerful and touching intros of the century!
Thank you a million times for the kind words and for addressing the situation in a respectful and mature manner friend.
And as for the review, I've said it a million times and I'll say it a million more, absolutely top quality!
My favorite creators are: Kirk, Gman and Icarus all friends and people I look up to in this space.
Oh, look the bald Swedish guy who drinks a giant thing of Vodka every stream. Kirk wasn't being nice to you Zlim he was trying to "make connections" to take advantage of your "friendship" for future content. Duh! :D (wub yew Zlim)
Where's Civvie? :(
Devs getting mad about bad reviews? What is this, 2006?
Its the entitlement generation
Thank you so much for showing love for my boy Zlimbratski! No one deserves to be slandered like that especially if they were making a great review like he did.
That dude is a fucking boomshoot machine, and snot-nosed kids accuse him (and others) of hating because... reasons?
It must be pretty lonely to be the only studio that hardcore genre tubers consistently bash. Strong "meeting assholes all day" vibes.
You know what disappointed me the most of this whole deal? Jassoz Games (creator of Cultic) calling him out on twitter for diffamation and misinformation, I expected more from the only developer in 3DRealms besides Voidpoint who actually made a good game and listens to his community...
Zlims review was so fucking fair and nuanced and reasonable
Oh come on people, get over it. It was a private conversation that got leaked, get a life
@@rosfell00 Wait, one of the Cultic devs said crap about Zlim? For what? As far as I remember, Zlim gave a fairly positive review of the first chapter of the game, didn't he? Not to mention, why do that at all? Sigh.
It's funny how false 3DR decided to diminish ZlimBratSki of everyone, but not Gman or even Civvie. I mean, those two has 1.2 million subscribers combined, they weren't willing to alienate probably 99% of their target audience, which says a lot about their lack of ethics and guts.
What a damn shame. Ion Fury was the most fun I’ve had with a new game in probably a decade. The expansion was pretty good too, though not essential.
Eyyy a shoutout to my man Zlim! Love to see it, though wish it wasn't in this context. Thanks for deciding to do a the review regardless, giving Zlim some love and addressing what happened in the best way possible, couldn't agree more. Terrible stuff from 3DR/SGI.
It’s so consistent at making people mad. If only it was consistent as a game
The hypocrisy is real, everything he complained about is present in Ion but the boomer crowd jerk off to that game, a game that is nothing but throwing hordes of braindead enemies at you while running around a maze looking for keycards.
how can anyone not love a 20 round revolver 🤣
Loverboy is magical
There was even 30 round revolver :)
TH-cam: 'The 30 shot revolver. Lefeuchaux pinfire revolver with firearms and weapon expert Jonathan Ferguson'
The loverboy was the coolest thing to come out of ion fury. Not only the concept, but the fact that it actually feels as crunchy as it should
@@KIRKCOLLECTS Still the best thing about this game.
Ive been following Zlim since pretty much his humble beginnings. Great guy, really friendly and always finds the time to reply to comments.
They just released another failed Duke Nukem Forever version
I disagree. I think if DNF had originally been released like this back when it was supposed to come out, it would've been met with critical acclaim. Yes, even with the bugs.
@@ershnuffbut it ... wasn't released ... hence failure ...
DNF is fine as a game. I'd rather play DNF than some of the utter trash we've gotten recently I'll tell you that much. And even with as many problems as Phantom Fury has, it's "not as bad" as DNF in that regard, though again I rather enjoyed DNF, so meh lol
Mad respect for you and appreciate the explanation for what's going on with 3D Realms. Had no idea that reviewers were having their opinions belittled by a studio who put out a game riddled with issues. Turns an okay game that I would normally keep my eye on into a game that I would rather not support if this is the sort of behavior the developers are exhibiting. The best game developers are the ones who recognize the faults in their games and put in the extra effort to address those issues. Thanks for helping me put my hard-earned cash toward boomer shooter developers who actually give a damn and won't treat people like s***!
Thank you for the review. It’s interesting to have different feedbacks. It’s safe to say this game has major technical issues. But the way devs treated Zlim is such a shame.
One thing I would like to know is if you had trouble to progress through the game with the “riddles” and computers to interact in order to progress. One recurring feedback I’ve seen is people being stuck for a long time and not figuring out what to do to progress. That could explain why you enjoyed more the game than others.
Honestly those didn't really trip up the experience for me. There were a few times I got stuck from that but I was always able to deduce "oh I should check these computers, they probably have the code." IDK maybe it's the old school gamer in me but it wasn't an issue.
I totally agree it can be frustrating to see your work being criticized and frustrated like for example UndertheMayo I do find his criticisms a little Harsh but I find his meticulous analysis and the blunt blunt honesty of his criticisms to have validity because I can tell the guy has high standards and he can see when games have potential like when he reviewed Turbo Overkill he did his usual blunt disection but he also helped with the games development and fixed the flaws he identified even if Someone does treat your work harshly they do it for either A very legitimate reasons or B because they hold stuff like that up to very high standards.
Appreciate that. The effect that Turbo Overkill demo review had on the game is seriously one of the things I'm most proud of. Have a good day.
@@underthemayo Thank's man.
I think the best way to describe games made by Slipgate Ironworks is "style over substance".
And what "substance" did Ion have? All that game is from start to finish is an utter slog of mazes, braindead enemy hordes, and keycard hunting, i was already bored shitless of that anemic and creatively bankrupt design in 90s.
@@Spr1ggan87sounds like your personal taste because all that stuff (besides occasionally getting lost, which isnt a big deal) was an absolute blast for me and i love all the 90s shooters that play like that.
@@Spr1ggan87Yeah, it's definitely a taste thing because I absolutely adored Ion Fury and played it all the way through twice and completed the extra modes and could not WAIT for Aftershock. Seeing what happened to Phantom Fury hurts so much because I know it could have been a great game, possibly my favorite of the Nu-Boom-Shoot generation. I'm hoping someone will mod it or fan patch the problems and make the game just a little better
I mean you can talk about whatever you want on private discord, lets stop trying to monitor everyones opinion. People are allowed to vent does not need to constructive not respectful because it was private
It's not a great game, but not as bad as many people are claiming. Buggy for sure, I lost all arm and suit upgrades after the horrible mini submarine level :/
News: Reviewer thinks Phantom Fury is "Just OK"
Best score yet!
What did you think of the first one? I played it twice and I still don't know how I feel about it....
@@michaeljedlowski4227 IDK, I never played it.
@@michaeljedlowski4227honestly I think it's just okay too. It kinda just feels like a build engine game that'd you forget about.
I'm glad 3d realms are around but, eh. I hope they take the money from this to make something good.
I know you're a super nice guy with rarely anything negative to say and/or are super respectful when you say it... HOWEVER, the truth is 3D Realms is cancer. I recall bringing up some criticism of their games in the past on Steam and were met with devs who were outright toxic in their response. The publisher has also grossly mismanaged multiple projects, exploited their customers with big box preorders, and just generally released crappy game after crappy game. So colour me not surprised with what's happening with this latest trainwreck.
I kinda hate the driving sections. For example, i dont get why cars accelerate faster in reverse and overall seem faster in reverse. Or is it just me? I find driving forward very unsatisfying.
LMAO the Big Rigs school of vehicle handling
Damn. I remember playing a game that has that kind of driving quirk too. Not the "big rigs style" of uncapped top speed in reverse, but it has the quirk where, reversing is not beholden to the physics that driving forward does. Stronger acceleration and torque, nonexistent physics and collission, and full tire grip, meaning, you can literally reverse out of a bad situation, like getting stuck on a ditch or in between vehicles, and it's very much viable to use cars to climb mountains; just drive up trunk-first.
Most level-headed review I've seen for this game. I'll definitely keep it in my wishlist if the devs actually manage to fix all the glaring bugs. Seems like a decent game to play if purchased on sale.
Shelly seems to have a curse to always ignite needless drama whenever one of her games launches. At least 2 out of 3 now.
That aside, I've been liking PF so far, it's fun! IF sure is much better, but IF is better than pretty much most other retro/boomer shooters.
No she’s is absolutely 3/3. Bombshell was a disaster and Fred Schreiber is a con artist
Hey! I appreciate your balanced approach to the review.
Though Ion Fury was so good, it makes sense many people would be let down by Phantom Fury, including me. Nevermind the social media shitstorm
I always loved your reviews for a more nuanced view.
0:58 until 4:00 = 100% pure truth that everyone needs to hear.
"Frame rate like a chugging slide show" is an instant all-time favorite for me.
Man the franchise itself seems so jumbled. Bombshell was isometric like those old Nukem games, Ion Fury was a 90s throwback (and a prequel), and now this one is another retro shooter but not too retro to not have dazzling effects. I think it would be hard for a newcomer to get into this and not go "so where is this all going?"
I feel bad knowing that Phantom Fury ended up like Duke Nukem: Forever. :/
Duke Nukem Forever is a good game compared to Phantom Fury.
LoL not remotely
I think the studio needs to go back to basics and do something like ion fury vs duke nukem with ideas taken from alien Armageddon duke mod! That would be awesome to see
02:38 - It's a thing about 3DRealms that, long have raised my eyebrow towards them. With this recent debacle, to vacuum up so much ip in such a short time, that it shot them in the foot when the bills come due, and it turns out, they can't decently fund half of them(very salty at them dropping Core Decay, and is currently very nervous about Tempest Rising)...it REALLY feels like 3DRealms attempted(and failed) to "speedrun" the success and prestige of the likes of New Blood Interactive and Nightdive Studios. Utterly missing the big point that, the success of those two came from their patience on building up their catalogues.
I am genuinely baffled on what the HECK just happened. Cultic, Ion Fury, Ghostrunner...then, like a flip of a switch; Graven, Wrath, Phantom Fury. These recent three are not terrible games. But they are incredibly lackluster. What's frustrating about those recent games is that, each of them were so damn CLOSE to being another very good batch of titles into the retro-FPS roster, but but really feels like they've been rushed out the door. And let's not forget the Kingpin Remaster by the way...
It is not a follow up to ion fury its a follow up to bombshell basically different studio not the same as the one behind ion fury and aftershock
Favorite Boomer shooter channels? Civie 11, Icarus Lives, and yours.
I haven't gotten this yet. It is on my wishlist, but I'm going to wait for patches and a sale.
Thank you for the review (it's nice to see you enjoyed it despite its flaws) and for that great intro. I agree; even if the reviews were harsh, the developers and people behind this product should understand where those negative opinions came from and try to improve with their next title.
The original design for the main girl was way hotter
Does it matter?
@@Moji55a of course it matters, what kind of question is that?
Thank you so much for not being part of the cringe drama. It seems it also kinda hurt you, but you made an excellent balanced review. Thats respect.
I think developers must adequately accept unconstructive criticism, but so do TH-camrs. I want a normal review from a TH-camr, and not a weapon to punish people who offend him or his colleagues.
The fact that part of the community began to pretend like It's a new 'Hunt Down the Freeman' is super cringe imo (played it on release, guilty pleasure and it's nice).
On the other hand, if this super cringe makes 3DR not abandon the game, then maybe it’s worth it.
Great review, and an even better, and powerful, opening statement. I barely have time to watch reviews and play games, let alone pay attention to adjacent drama that goes along with it... but unfortunately I got sucked in a bit a did pay attention this time. I have been watching you and Zlim for a couple years now and you two are very responsible for reigniting my love for 3d shooters. And even though I have interacted a lot with Zlim and not with you, its nice to know that the other creator I gravitated toward is a solid dude too. All that being said... I'll keep my eye on this game for the next several months and hope it gets some improvements/updates as it is right up my alley. If that point comes, I will jump on it. Thanks!
The moral of the story is: don’t let people who take advantage of peoples hatred towards EA, be allowed to make a video game
Found this review via google, as I had no idea where was a sequel to Ion Fury (which I am currently playing on Deck and am in love with it). Given that I grew up on these games and have seen the absolute jank in early FPS games, I'm pretty sure I can handle a few crappy AI bugs in a game trying to replicate an era that had its fair share of wonky AI. Gunplay looks fun and honestly, I really like Shelly. Might wait for a sale before I grab it though. Thanks for the middle-ground review.
Was glad to see you shout out ZlimBratSki. That guy puts in work and has made me aware of some great looking games that I haven't seen covered elsewhere and might not have found otherwise.
Appreciate your thoughts on this one - I had high hopes for it and was a little deflated after seeing the early criticism for it because I wanted it to be excellent. I'm happy to hear that they worked on the shooting; it does look a bit more impactful in your footage than the earlier footage I'd seen. Looks like they've already issued the first patch, too, and although I'm glad to see bugs being squashed I really do hope they fix this one up right because Ion Fury really deserves a quality sequel. Love the attention to interactivity in this game but the bones need to be solid, boys! Prodeus doesn't have much you can interact with in comparison, but the shooting in that game is ohhh so satisfying.
So basically wait for it to go on sale
ZLIM RULES
Civvie, Trav & Zlim are cool. I don't always agree with their opinions but they show that actually care & they take no pleasure in giving out bad reviews.
As for the game itself, this is the most fair review I've seen. It's a 6 outta ten, could've been much more but Slipgate management gotta Slipgate. Still better than fucking Graven tho.
I have a good suggestion for a game review
Anger Foot review
Demon cores? Is that some hidden sponge bob lore reference?
I don't appreciate you calling out Zlimbratski. He's Swedish and bald. None of us in his community like him anymore, as he's gotten big enough that he ignores all of us in his stream chats and tells us he hates us for requesting games all the time so he has content to post. Plus, he smells like salted licorice and pastries.
Obviously, I'm joking lol Zlim is awesome. Been a subscriber since he has about 280 subscribers, so it's awesome to see his channel grow like Kirk's here. The whole thing with 3D Realms and Slipgate and the leaked Discord chats, I mean what can you say to that? Just, well not very professional let's put nicely. Zlim is always so positive and obviously has a good time playing games and interacting with us - not to mention he is VERY rarely negative in his reviews of games even when the rest of us would be much more negative. The fact he specifically got "called out" so to speak like that, it is what it is but it's very disappointing coming from a popular indie shooter publisher and a company that doesn't have the best track record with games lately.
Definitely going to wait for The third patch before considering
Thanks for the more balanced take on it! Had a feeling that some of the others might be exaggerating.
Hey, Kirk. With X-men '97 going on I suggest reviewing X-men:Ravages of Apocalypse.
Good suggestion! and oh my god that show is amazing.
Thx for the review, Kirk.Sad to see Slipgate deliver another Title with major technical issues, and after what 3DReals pulled off with Zlimbratskis hands-on with the demo, I think, that i´ll be passing on this one ... at least until it plops up for a Quid or two on Fanatical. And well, let´s say, that from now on, I´ll be thinking twice about whether I buy a 3DRealms Game at release or not...
Thanks for this video kirk. I still want to play this game it looks fun, just not at full price.
Kirk, Civvie, and That Trav Guy are probably my favourite boom shoot tubers (I couldn't find a good way to open this comment)
Another sick vid Kirk, love your work.
the running fov effect killed it for me. Got Motion sickness. Even if they implement, that I can deactivate that effect in the future I get instant sickness only from seeing the footage. Can't even watch your video sorry :(
There's camera shake option.
@@Moji55a only shake, not fov effect while running
I dont know anything about the drama
The usual hypocrisy and crap from the boomer shooter crowd, the only good shooters are original DOOM and DOOM clones and that Half-Life ruined the genre and anything inspired by it is bad. When the reality is that boomer shooters are complete drivel, just mazes filled with braindead hordes, keycard hunts, and running in circles for hours trying to find x amount of obnoxiously placed secrets. I'll take games more like Half-Life, Tron 2.0, F.E.A.R., DOOM 3, Far Cry 1, Elite Force, Halo, NOLF, etc, over og DOOM clones any day of the week.
Appreciate your take on the discourse that went down, as the days pass I regret keeping HyperVerse silent on it when we perhaps should have covered it as an impartial media outlet, but at the time it just felt like I was would have been gossiping about friends and made me feel.....icky. Fantastic review too Kirk ❤🎉❤
Wrath and Graven are on my wishlist since a while ( as I prefered to go for games like Cultic before ), I'm interested by Phantom Fury since the day it was announced, as I liked the atmosphere from Ion Fury, but didn't enjoy to play it so much. Simple 3D is more enjoyable to me than complex 2D / complex 3D. More relaxing. I'm going to do like for Cyberpunk: wait for patches. And I'm sure AI problems could be solved, like vehicular sections. They might also add different enemies ? The arsenal looks dope. About the easiness, it means I might try another difficulty than normal this time 😂The thing that pleases me is the fact it's inspired by Half-Life, but more action oriented. I'm not a fan of enemies right now, like I wasn't for Half-Life's ones...If they can make enemies sneaky it could be fun. Like connecting them with a radio, and if one sees you, other ones would know, like in some Metal Gear's games.
The game is fine.
The devs are really unbalanced to "need to vent on discord" over criticism and the leaker is a douche to leak private conversations
My major pet peeve with FPS games is when it is fast paced and you have to do a lot of backing up[ and you keep getting stuck on the damn enviroment and it causes you to get done in and this was terrible for that.
Fun game but very irritating at times and quite clunky unlike the first game and feels a tad rushed but still a good game.
I had a great time with Ion Fury , I’m hoping they fix this new Phantom Fury before it releases on consoles.
Sticking with Ion Fury/Aftershock. The exploding enemies in Phantom Fury aren't my idea of fun shooting/melee.
As if Ion is any better where they just stick 100 crab robots around every corner and on every ceiling
@@Spr1ggan87- Like the crab robots, reminds me of the little buggers in Powerslave.
Im dissapointed that the game apparently isnt as great as we were hoping. Controversially while i do like retro shooters like doom and duke 3d I seem to enjoy games based off halo,half life, other early 2000s fps and doom eternal more. Its a shame we dont have as many quality games in this subgenre compared to the 90s doom and quake style games.
The game looks so GODDAMN PRETTY, I love the "Old game graphics with modern enhancements" aesthetic. Too bad the reviews are so overwhelmingly bad
I'm happy to see a more balanced take on this game because I think it objectively sits comfortably around a 7/10 and not the 3/10 that the negative hype would have you believe. HOWEVER -- and this is a big however-- there is no denying that the mediocre quality of content being prematurely pushed out of Shitgate Ironworks is killing 3D Realms as a company (we may see them perish for a second time now thanks to SI) and even going so far as to put a huge damper on the entirety of the throwback shooter scene.
Because of SI's unholy trinity of mediocrity (Wrath, Graven and PF), hype for upcoming retro FPSes is dimming, which may mean that we won't see any more masterpiece releases like Dusk or Ultrakill in the future. Indeed, thanks to SI's incompetence and greed, we'll likely be stuck solely with 1-man-baby's-first-game type of projects for years to come within this genre.
For their sins, Shitgate Ironwork's releases deserve all the flak they get and then some, even if it's not completely representative of the individual title in question. The general sentiment towards them will rightfully remain that way until they release something that is genuinely better than an 8/10 experience, which I don't think is possible for them.
It just looks so bland
My favourite crater is the one in South Africa, the world’s biggest but no crater on earth can hold a candle to all the craters on the moon!
(Why are we shouting out our favourite craters?)
This game looks as I remember No One lives forever looking
is it just with me or the url for most creators linked on the video description aren't working?
for me, it loads into a 404
Well shoot. I’ll double check them
@@KIRKCOLLECTS the ones that aren't working appears just as numbers on the url where the username would be written. GL :)
Fixed 👍. TH-cam was being buggy with the links.
@@KIRKCOLLECTSthank you! I appreciate u getting to it so quickly.. + respect for the recommendations
Thanks for your opinion and review!
I think PF's weapon roster is too boomer-shooter for it's HL almost-tactical-shooter pacing.
The level design is one of the worst ive seen in games in general in recent years. thats why no patches will help this game.
and no review mentioned one thing - in the 10 hour campaign there are 12 enemies, including two tank encounters, stationary turrets and one soldier with 3 different types of armor counted as three.
Ion Fury is a bit frustrating to play and gunplay felt restrictive. Too bad phantom fury still falls short
I wish the game was better because it looks great
I'm playing now and my largest gripe is the enemies. They're pretty boring. Mostly just guys with guns. I wanna fight aliens or monsters or robots or something badass. Not man with gun.
So basically it’s worth getting AFTER it’s patched. Of course typical modern devs. Fix an unfinished game after release.
Ion Fury was an excellent game. Not sure how we went from that to Phatom Fury which is at best 'generic shooter #827' territory.
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If wonder if Capstone was around these days, would people also cry about evil youtubers shitting on their trying-ever-so-hard underdog?
I am so angry at this company, and all the second-hand goodwill they abuse. Shit like this can and will tank a whole subgenre of games.
Not Capstone but this reminds me of Rex Blade: The Apocalypse. The dev wanted to spend 12-18 months making the game good with some advanced features, but was instead only given 45 days for the alpha alone.
It reminds me of YandereDev for some reason
they just can't make anything more than the faled duke forever, they keep making the same game
Excellent review as always but I’ll say this…I would rather purchase and play a game like this with its flaws instead of wasting money and time on most “triple A” games that are released these days.These smaller developers don’t have to release perfection every single time to catch my attention because I,like a lot of others love these games!Long live the boomer shooters!
Come on now, 3DR and SI have done this time and time again. This is midsized corporate complacency larping as aw-shucks indie limitation of resources.
If you like this game, more power to you, but they are hardly the underdog here.
I'm glad that so many good games are being made that it's not a choice between AAA or this anymore
Slipshod Doesn'twork
This game looks pretty fun in a "flawed but enjoyable" sort of way. The only problem is that it has to live up to Iron Fury but I'll look at this own it's merits, comparing games to only stuff in it's franchise is dumb dogmatic bullshit anyway, I am willing to most who do this probably play the same games over and over and then angry when you give their favorite game criticism.
This game is awesome and not as a bad as the steam review says.
8,5 of 10 points
I'll definitely skip it after all that stuff going on with Zlim. Maybe buy Aftershock, dunno yet.
I’m not sure on the specifics of what went down with the drama surrounding this game, but I will say I understand devs getting upset at the amount of criticism constantly being thrown their way by fans/reviewers for decisions not made by the devs themselves but instead made by their project managers/publishers. Especially over at 3DR, the comment sections under most of their trailers are super negative and not at all constructive from what I’ve seen. I feel like that must take a toll on the developers moral. I’m sure if it were up to the devs they would delay these games until the bugs/issues were ironed out instead of rushing them out the door then crunching to fix bugs in forthcoming patches. Feels kinda similar to what happened with cyberpunk. That being said there are some valid criticisms to be made here.
still better than fafout seventy shejts
Game looks ok, i dont get whats so egregious about it. Mcmuscles put out a video that literally shows him having fun for 30 mins, says "hey its ok", and all of the comments were basically saying what a dumpster fire it was. Like they had watched a different video or something
After watching this I definitely want it. This is the style and type of game I grew up with. Need physical edition asap
3DR complained about negative reviews? Well, time for a refund.
This is where the line is drawn and not when 3DR was blatantly homophobic.
@@mattc7420One person's blatant homophobia is another's whatever. If you are talking about the Voidpoint controversy.
@@mattc7420 Oh no, 3DR ARE blatantly homophobic and transphobic. I know that... but Ion Fury was so damn good, I ignored it. This game isn't good enough for me to overlook their unprofessionalism.
I'm not surprised. TerminX and several other people on the 3DR forums back in the day were blatantly homophobic.
@@mattc7420 I mean, 3DR are blatantly homophobic and transphobic, but Ion Fury was good enough that I over looked it. Phantom Fury is not.
@@mattc7420 Why in god's name would that matter? It's a video game about gratuitously blasting people in the face.
When was the last time you spoke crap about any game? Never but that is your style. O0n the other hand 3D Realms is just a name that used to stand for great games and that is it, a company that has a name but nothing behind it.
This game sux so bad
Nice game
Game setting, design, graphics and mechanics set up to play like late-90s / early-00s FPS shooter by intention; criticized for playing like and looking like an late-90s / early-00s FPS shooter... I don't have a dog in this fight (watched the vid' from 4:00 to 8:50), I haven't even played the game-- and only mildly curious about it, but not really any more though, but I have to say--criticisms like I alluded to in the first sentence of this post is exactly why more and more I've just been giving up on YT reviews.
Yeahboy
The game is good, fun and honestly has more content than a generic shooter in terms of campaign. People just like to talk bad about everything
Shush.
@@cchutney348
"NOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION 😭"
@@mattc7420 He is allowed to have all the opinions in the world, but saying "people just like to talk bad about everything" when almost all the FPS shills dislike this game is more than a little dishonest.
Or pray tell, was Civvie paid off by Big Zortch, and then shat on PF because 3DR failed to pay the protection money?
If you like the game, that is one thing, but this amount of copium is just sad.
Boomer Shooter standards are so high that people get pissed at decent games. Expectations . It's gonna be decent game once we forget about it and rediscover it again, but still even the sheer amount of crazy good doom mods/total conversions sets the bar really high.
Way better than the 1st game. Facts I just bought this game and its way better than that awful 1st game.
lol