Not only has Ion Fury: Aftershock finally come out, but we also got a 1.0 release date for WRATH: Aeon of Ruin, an update for CULTIC and a new trailer for Core Decay. It seems like 3D Realms are finally getting their shit together.
The 3D Realms showcase had something like 80 game trailers crammed into 4 hours. A bit overwhelming and there was a lot of shovelware shown, but also many games that looked promising.
Gman I love you're stuff but I gotta disagree with you on this game feeling dated. Ion Fury wasn't made to be a movement shooter with dashes and slides and this dlc was never going to change that. Ion Fury wants to be an old school build engine game but pushed to it's technical limit by a team of creators who know how to get every last drop of power out of it. Stuff like Turbo Overkill or Ultra Kill is trying to be a modern take on the genera. Ion fury is a homage to the classics.
Not every retro shooter needs to implement a ton of fancy movement mechanics to be interesting, calling it dated for not implementing stuff like that when neither the base game nor the overarching genre it's in really hold that connotation is disagreeable, at best.
Yes. It seems that gman wanted another Doom eternal, turbo overkill or ultrakill. I'm more into this kind of shooter, more "simple". I tried games like ultrakill and that was just not for me.
Indeed. I don't know if age comes into it and/or the less is more thing. I was 30 when Quake 2 was released. These days I sometimes have to lower the difficulty levels as my reflexes are not what they were. Saying that, I've completed Cultic numerous times on all difficulties. I think it's the best of all these, to use a term I don't like, boomer shooters. Hey! I'm an old GenX! I have played some of the FPS with platforming/parkour. I completed TurboO. I tried Sprawl but couldn't get into it. I'm off to play Marrow (new Blood mod).
@@alessandrodeangelis9029 He's said this about numerous games, too, not just Ion Fury. I remember him saying Serious Sam feels dated, and then bringing up movement shooters as a reason why. I can't begin to describe how much I really would lose interest in the retro/arena shooter scene if it just devolved into them all being Doom Eternal clones or movement shooters.
The BUILD! Engine just has this very distinct, crisp feeling to it. It has insane details, incredible sprites and modular sectors that can change. It just feels so good. It is the absolute best 2.5D engine that has ever been made.
I kinda feel like we've gone too far in the other direction. Movement mechanics are one thing, but the whole weapon swapping 3 times to kill a single mob isn't fun or engaging to me.
Different strokes for different folks. There's now better variety, which is a good thing. Personally if all I had still were games where you can circle strafe and click heads, I would want the long sleep. There's still plenty of faithful old school shooters to pick from.
exactly, like, I understand how that could be fun for the mf's with ADHD + low attention span, but it's not fun for the casuals just simply trying to enjoy the game.
BTW GMan, the baton one-shots the MechSects (the spiders). Has a funny animation too. Also, The hard cut to the credits was a bug. There's supposed to be an end cinematic. It'll be fixed on release day. (Barring any unexpected circumstances)
@@uros.u.novakovicthey are annoying because i don’t wanna be crouching down to zap spiders every 4 minutes. this has nothing to do with their difficulty
I'm not sure it's fair criticizing it for not being very innovative when it's just an expansion. If it was that different to Ion Fury, it would be a new game, not an expansion
wrong, plenty of expansion packs throughout the years innovate on the gameplay loop while still keeping it fresh. this literally felt like it could be part of the base game, the point of expansion packs is usually they are supposed to feel unique to the base game. it is 100% fair to criticize an expansion pack for just copying the base game’s homework, especially when they hardly gave us new weapons.
@@groundhardskinnySo, the addition of a drivable bike, a remixed campaign, new enemies, new weapons, new powerups, and a new inventory system would've been noticed had they been part of the base game from the start?
i’m glad Voidpoint stuck with the same/similar formula with Aftershock as Ion Fury. i got into Ion Fury BECAUSE there was hardly any modern spin on the game. the newer “boomer shooter” formula would’ve ruined Aftershock imo. I’m so tired of seeing the same walking on walls, dashing, arena style fps and calling them part of the “retro fps renaissance”. sometimes people want just a true 90s dated type of game (with a fresh coat of paint as a bonus).
I haven't played much Ultrakill and haven't touched Turbo Overkill or any of those movement-intensive shooters, but I replayed Ion Fury last year and had so much fun that honestly, I think a good Build Engine game is all I really need right now. Not everything has to be super-complex movement that demands you to connect your brain directly to the PC so you can control it better and with faster reaction times. Also, Ion Fury's soundtrack is fucking amazing and I can't wait to hear more of Jarkko Rotstén's tracker masterpieces. After playing Deus Ex and Unreal, I've gotten really into that style of music and can't get enough of it.
I think you actually nailed an issue with the genre currently: It's getting complicated. Hey, if you want more complex games, that's cool, but sometimes you want something a bit more "down to earth". Honestly I've played a lot of movement shooters and eventually got tired due to how much more effort was required out of me, so I played them less and less. It's why I still go back to older shooters or games that don't focus as much on heavy movement mechanics. There's a time and place for everything and when everything is the same, you've got less choices.
Pretty sure the only rooty tooty movement shooty game that forces you to switch is Doom Eternal, in Ultrakill you can just coin meme blast your way through everything.
I am actually very happy that this game is NOT influenced by Doom Eternal. I think it will take the fps genre quite some time to get over the damage Doom Eternal has caused to it. I don't want fancy platforming in my retro shooter. I also don't want to have to switch my weapons constantly because my character can't carry anymore than five bullets of any type.
I am quite happy that voidpoint did not "evolve" ion fury more into one of these movment/dash shooters. Those often pretend to be retro shooters but they only have the look of one but offer a totally different gameplay experience requiring totally different reaction abilities from the players that may not everyone be able to provide. It´s more like they fill some kind of sub-genre like a missing link between the classic shooters up to the modern fast paced ones but hell, let classic shooters be classic shooters, there was already enough failvolution the last 20 years i did not like. I already hated turbo overkill as they deeper i got into it the more it felt like sonic the hedgehog with guns......and stopped playing it as the experience felt alien to me.
Totally agree with this statement. I said this in another comment, but I believe simplicity is the spice of life sometimes. Boomer and movement shooters can coexist.
I had no idea that Shelly was thicc the entire time with a big ass until I saw the Adtershock title screen. I always thought of her as a 90s style stick-thin chick with bolt ons.
Thanks for the review. I got to say though sometimes I want just an old school shooter. Games like Ultrakill and Turbo Overkill you have to be ON-POINT with your movement to beat those games. I always play the hardest difficulties from the start and I still enjoy games where I am not having to put 200% concentration on dodging and countering 1000 projectiles coming at me while pressing 10 dodge/equipment buttons every 2 seconds.
I don't know... the critique "this game that styles itself from a 1996 retro shooter is dated because it's 2023 not 2019" probably won't be something the target demographic will regard much. Still, I do get missing certain mechanics. A grappling hook would be nice :)
Ion Fury doesn’t feel like it’s from 2019; it feels like it’s from 1996, which is exactly what it’s aiming for. Honestly I’m not sure why you were expecting it to be more modernized. It’s whole shtick is being old school, which is what makes it awesome. Good review otherwise. I personally think Aftershock improves on the base game, having better enemy variety, more consistently interesting environments, and doesn’t overstay its welcome.
Yeah seriously. Try the demo. I was super hyped for it and the demo killed my interest. I don't know how they'll save it; it disappointed me that much.
I never noticed before, but the collar under Shelly's neck in the portrait in the bottom-left actually changes depending on what type of armour you have.
This game actually being on the original engine gives it such a cool look without giving it motion-sickness inducing movement like some of the other recent boomer shooters have. The environments and the references in here are stellar too. Happy to see Tech Noir get a shot out!
You might wanna check out Ashes 2063 as well then. It is a Fallout style game made in the Doom engine. And it is free as it started out as a total conversion mod before becoming its own standalone game.
I couldn't care less for modern shooter mechanics. To me FEAR is and will always be the sweet spot for FPS combat. AI that tries to actually beat the player, melee moves that give you some movement but don't take over, particle effects from bullets flying everywhere, multiple avenues of approach for "arenas" instead of Dooms big open arenas, etc. The only thing you could possibly add to that is a smaller but more identified set of weapons with clear strengths and weaknesses instead of following the formula of 1-6 starting with the handgun you stop using after the first map.
to me the lack of dash, wallruning, grappling is a perk rather than detraction. sounds pretty interesting tho i sortof wish this was done in same vein as 90s datadiscs complete overhaul (ex.: Duke Carribean)
In all honesty, I get the whole "indie shooters have evolved" thing, but I will always cherish boomer shooters more than movement shooters. Sometimes, the latter would do too much for its own good, whereas the former would stay simple most of the time. And I'm a firm believer that simplicity is also a spice of life.
Well, it already kinda exists. It's Blood : Death Wish. It's a mod with several new chapters and it's free. And it's maybe the best build engine game I've ever played.
@@-Zakhiel- There was also a new Blood mod announced at RD2023: Marrow. You can play it using Fresh Supply or nBlood or Raze! Guess it's time for me to go from GDX to nBlood lmao
"Dated" is such a funny term, especially in this context. When people use it, I just interpret it as "I don't like it" and nothing else. Chess is extremely "dated" and people still play it centuries later. I mean, dude, you're critiquing a genre whose sole reason for existing is replicating games from yesteryear. Yes, DUH it's going to feel "dated". THAT'S THE POINT. So you want fast movement, double jumping, dashing and grappling hooks. Okay, then go play a game that has those. This is a boomer shooter, not a zoomer shooter. Both have the right to exist.
I miss the days of expansion packs - they used to be meaningful chunks of additional content, whereas most DLC these days just feels like it was a few levels or items stripped from the base game. And it's for that reason I kind of disagree with the end critique of this video, that the genre has moved on and this game feels dated. It's Ion Fury, it's an expansion to that, it's not trying to be anything other than more of the same. I don't want it to try and ape what the current 'in' thing is when I already know what the original game was and what it was trying to recreate, and if I wanted something like those other movement shooters... I'd just go and play one. All I can say though is... roll on Phantom Fury! Can't wait for that.
Imagine waiting for this for so long you almost lost hope. Then you see some projects getting cancelled (SIN remaster). Then they made RealmsDeep and said "oh yeah, that game? We''re going to release it like tomorrow or something. Have fun!" At least it took them less than Dusk HD (5 years). This gonna be JUICY with Build Games Randomizer mod!
Weird dig at Dusk there. It's an HD remaster being released for free to celebrate the 5th anniversary, just announced yesterday. It "took" 5 years, cause that's kinda how anniversaries work.
Just like how long it took for the Rise of the Triad port to come out so now we don't have to deal with a janky reverse-engineered engine or the DOS version
So glad this is finally coming out. Ion Fury remains my favourite of the legion of throwback FPS games and in my opinion (as someone who grew up playing these type of games in the ‘90s) is one of the few that actually gets it and feels like a real game of the time. Too many of these new attempts miss the point and shoehorn in a load of modern contrivances that destroy the feel (limited weapon loadouts, upgrades, Doom Eternal-isms and the dreaded “rogue-like elements”).
Eeeeh, I don't think that not being this new movement-shooter is a detriment. This game is good at being a Build engine game, with destructible and interactible envirionment and very complex exploration in those open-ended levels. These areas never tell you the whole story at the first glance, it later turns out that buildings weren't just decoration and were actually enterable and explorable envirionments. Now you see the main courtyard from behind 4th floor window and it's awesome. Sure they could have added double jump and a jetpack but they didn't had to. The game is good enough to stand on its own feet in its own genre, doesn't have to be 10th movement shooter in the last 12 months.
Going to say this as someone that have not played the old Doom or Duke games. Ion Fury feels like a game that will be easier to get into then let say Selaco where I need to do everything Ion Fury does but also dash and all that.
But speaking of games made in these older engines, maybe you would want to check out the game Ashes 2063. It started out as a total conversion mod for Doom, but was then later released as a standalone game for free. It is quite amazing what people manages to create in such an old engine with this one being more like Fallout than Doom.
I'm glad to have more Ion Fury. I dont want more games to be like Doom Eternal or Ultrakill. Not every shooter needs to be focused on movement or innovation. I'm estatic it's fun 🥳
Hell no Gman xD this adhd arena twist on the retro shooters is not evolution lmao. It's a subgenre and i for one don't care jack SH*T about it, even Amid Evil is not my thing. I want pockets of varied enemies that actually challenge me, with a slower immersive walk to it, bathing in the glory of the level design and the details/secret hunting. AkA DN3D/Blood. Even Selaco knows this, and brings the lore and the level design, pushing switches and environment interaction during combat, but also keeps the action hyper and meaty. They can keep their anti gravity wallrun platform to platform dashes, with the serious sam AI xD Oldscool is oldscool. This arena stuff is a different genre, and that's not even an opinion in my opinion
@@Gatorade69 I hate the word pack even more. Sounds like it has a bunch of random stuff packed in. Also reminds me of card packs, the original loot boxes. Rather prefer the word "addon" (me feel old and wise just by typing it, nobody's calling em that nowadays). Though, doesn't change the fact that this is a downloadable content, hence it's still a dlc.
To be honest, playing a build engine game expecting it to be like a modern movement shooter feels like missing the point completely. Like playing a super mario world romhack while expecting it to feel like mario odyssey.
There are times when I don't mind the classics, however dated they may be. I still like 'Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem' because there just aren't that many shooters that put you up against so many enemies aside from 'Earth Defense Force', so I'm quite undernourished in that department (and also 'Siberian Mayhem' avoids a lot of the jerking around that the earlier games liked to get up to). I just feel like stuff like 'Ion Fury' isn't as fun as it could be. I'm looking forward to what they attempt to do with 'Phantom Fury', although I worry they're going for a darker story tone with that.
i like the review, but it’s really dumb to complain about a retro fps not being like doom eternal. think about what you are saying for a second, these are meant to recapture the essence of 90s shooters yet ur criticizing the game for basing its gameplay loop off doom and half life? that is just stupid man maybe some of us want a through and through throwback shooter
You say it didn't take inspiration from Doom Eternal, like it's a bad thing. IMO, it's a GOOD thing. These games became popular again because of a drought. A drought caused because the FPS genre "moved on". As someone who loves this genre, but hates Doom Eternal, this not changing is a very good thing. Lastly it is an expansion pack. It'd be kinda weird if they just changed how the game played mechanically.
His biggest problem with the game is that it's too much like a retro shooter and not a parkour game with guns? Ion Fury was always a retro shooter so I don't know why he expected it to play like those games with ridiculous movement mechanics. I love retro shooters, so I see this expansion as a win.
Have you thought that perhaps many of us dont like movement shooters??? Ion Fury was awesome and more of that sounds great to me , no added Doom eternals bs into the mix.
Honestly, not having any of the new modern stuff is refreshing to me. Sometime I just want a more pure boomer shooter experience instead of sweating everywhere on my keyboard trying to mad dash quick swapping and learning weapon combos like it’s a fighting game.
I'm definitely hyped to have more Ion Fury to play...once Aftershock releases on Xbox that is. And I can't believe I'm only just NOW hearing about Phantom Fury...
i really...REALLY do not like the idea of comparing a true "boomer" shooter to modern "mover" shooters. you want a mover shooter go ahead, get that, play that. Boomer shooters came back for a reason. because wed gone ages without anything. just because they have had a brief resurgence now, is absolutely no reason to suddenly hate them for not playing like "newer" games. the entire fucking point was to play something weve lost.
She should have been a sidekick to Wang from Shadow Warrior. Then they could name the sequel Kung Fury, and have it about chasing time travelling Hitler.
The best FPS shooters, I’ve played since it came out 4yrs ago. Really going to play Aftershock now, and not to mention the future sequel that’s gonna come out, somewhere in the near future.
I cant speak for aftershock but what makes ion fury memorable is not that its a retro inspired fps but its level design was incredibly intricate and beuitiful. Other stuff like the destructability and enemy variety help too. Would say that in Ion fury circle strafing is only a good idea in open areas, closed areas unlike a lot of retro fps its better to peep around corners and pick things off.
Just finished the entire expansion with 100% kills and secrets and mega secrets too. Had an insane amount of fun with this! Aftershock was definitely worth the wait. Also, how did you finish this in 4 to 5 hours? I mean I guess it can be done if you literally ignore exploration and just rush for the ending of every level.
Tripple G Man does not understand that there are very hard-core old retro FPS playing boomer demographic who hate all those "Advancements" and "Innovations" in the genre in the recent years. This expansion pack is right up their moldy and ancient alley.
Not only has Ion Fury: Aftershock finally come out, but we also got a 1.0 release date for WRATH: Aeon of Ruin, an update for CULTIC and a new trailer for Core Decay. It seems like 3D Realms are finally getting their shit together.
+ dates for Kingpin Reloaded and Graven Full Release
The 3D Realms showcase had something like 80 game trailers crammed into 4 hours. A bit overwhelming and there was a lot of shovelware shown, but also many games that looked promising.
Wow I can't believe we're actually getting a full on release date for WRATH. I was damn near convinced that game was dead
Phantom Fury demo too.
thank for the comment did not knew that
Gman I love you're stuff but I gotta disagree with you on this game feeling dated. Ion Fury wasn't made to be a movement shooter with dashes and slides and this dlc was never going to change that. Ion Fury wants to be an old school build engine game but pushed to it's technical limit by a team of creators who know how to get every last drop of power out of it. Stuff like Turbo Overkill or Ultra Kill is trying to be a modern take on the genera. Ion fury is a homage to the classics.
True, not every shooter needs to be an ultra kill, its good that it isnt.
Ion fury is build to the core and thats the only thing that matters
Excited for this. Nothing quite like build engine games.
It’s an EDuke game
@@iris_ofthestorm4260it's still a build engine game
Dad is spoling us once again.
@@iris_ofthestorm4260Eduke is the build engine but programmed to run on modern hardware and with a bunch of upgrades and bug fixes.
@@pistool1we came full sircle
Not every retro shooter needs to implement a ton of fancy movement mechanics to be interesting, calling it dated for not implementing stuff like that when neither the base game nor the overarching genre it's in really hold that connotation is disagreeable, at best.
This. Ion Fury wasn't meant to be that kind of game.
Yes. It seems that gman wanted another Doom eternal, turbo overkill or ultrakill.
I'm more into this kind of shooter, more "simple". I tried games like ultrakill and that was just not for me.
Indeed. I don't know if age comes into it and/or the less is more thing. I was 30 when Quake 2 was released. These days I sometimes have to lower the difficulty levels as my reflexes are not what they were. Saying that, I've completed Cultic numerous times on all difficulties. I think it's the best of all these, to use a term I don't like, boomer shooters. Hey! I'm an old GenX! I have played some of the FPS with platforming/parkour. I completed TurboO. I tried Sprawl but couldn't get into it. I'm off to play Marrow (new Blood mod).
@@alessandrodeangelis9029 He's said this about numerous games, too, not just Ion Fury. I remember him saying Serious Sam feels dated, and then bringing up movement shooters as a reason why. I can't begin to describe how much I really would lose interest in the retro/arena shooter scene if it just devolved into them all being Doom Eternal clones or movement shooters.
For me Doom Eternal took a wrong direction with the ammo diet and weapon swapping. I stick to old shooters.
The BUILD! Engine just has this very distinct, crisp feeling to it. It has insane details, incredible sprites and modular sectors that can change. It just feels so good. It is the absolute best 2.5D engine that has ever been made.
The explosions are also incredibly satisfying.
I kinda feel like we've gone too far in the other direction. Movement mechanics are one thing, but the whole weapon swapping 3 times to kill a single mob isn't fun or engaging to me.
Try not to sound like a IGN reviewer
@@uria3679 ok, so you don't have an argument, you're just feeling salty? Try not to sound like a butthurt fanboy.
Why I strongly disliked doom eternal.
Different strokes for different folks. There's now better variety, which is a good thing. Personally if all I had still were games where you can circle strafe and click heads, I would want the long sleep. There's still plenty of faithful old school shooters to pick from.
exactly, like, I understand how that could be fun for the mf's with ADHD + low attention span, but it's not fun for the casuals just simply trying to enjoy the game.
BTW GMan, the baton one-shots the MechSects (the spiders). Has a funny animation too.
Also, The hard cut to the credits was a bug. There's supposed to be an end cinematic. It'll be fixed on release day. (Barring any unexpected circumstances)
I just beat it and it cut straight to the credits for me too.
I was very surprised when he said that they are the most annoying enemies in FPS games ever. They are so easy to deal with...
@@uros.u.novakovicthey are annoying because i don’t wanna be crouching down to zap spiders every 4 minutes. this has nothing to do with their difficulty
I'm not sure it's fair criticizing it for not being very innovative when it's just an expansion. If it was that different to Ion Fury, it would be a new game, not an expansion
wrong, plenty of expansion packs throughout the years innovate on the gameplay loop while still keeping it fresh. this literally felt like it could be part of the base game, the point of expansion packs is usually they are supposed to feel unique to the base game. it is 100% fair to criticize an expansion pack for just copying the base game’s homework, especially when they hardly gave us new weapons.
@@groundhardskinnySo, the addition of a drivable bike, a remixed campaign, new enemies, new weapons, new powerups, and a new inventory system would've been noticed had they been part of the base game from the start?
@@groundhardskinnyok 😐👍
i’m glad Voidpoint stuck with the same/similar formula with Aftershock as Ion Fury. i got into Ion Fury BECAUSE there was hardly any modern spin on the game. the newer “boomer shooter” formula would’ve ruined Aftershock imo. I’m so tired of seeing the same walking on walls, dashing, arena style fps and calling them part of the “retro fps renaissance”. sometimes people want just a true 90s dated type of game (with a fresh coat of paint as a bonus).
Amen the movement shooter aspect would add limitations to the build engine level design which is what i love about these games.
I haven't played much Ultrakill and haven't touched Turbo Overkill or any of those movement-intensive shooters, but I replayed Ion Fury last year and had so much fun that honestly, I think a good Build Engine game is all I really need right now. Not everything has to be super-complex movement that demands you to connect your brain directly to the PC so you can control it better and with faster reaction times.
Also, Ion Fury's soundtrack is fucking amazing and I can't wait to hear more of Jarkko Rotstén's tracker masterpieces. After playing Deus Ex and Unreal, I've gotten really into that style of music and can't get enough of it.
I'd recommend giving turbo overkill a try. Im a boomer and i could keep up with it. It's fast paced, responsive but forgiving
Turbo overkill is amazing
More Ion Fury in never a bad thing.
I think you actually nailed an issue with the genre currently: It's getting complicated. Hey, if you want more complex games, that's cool, but sometimes you want something a bit more "down to earth". Honestly I've played a lot of movement shooters and eventually got tired due to how much more effort was required out of me, so I played them less and less. It's why I still go back to older shooters or games that don't focus as much on heavy movement mechanics. There's a time and place for everything and when everything is the same, you've got less choices.
Im surprised you're not disappointed this DLC didnt add regenerating health and a 2 weapon limit
I for one am happy to see a game that is less spaztic about dashing and needles weapons swapping.
This is the price of innovation
Pretty sure the only rooty tooty movement shooty game that forces you to switch is Doom Eternal, in Ultrakill you can just coin meme blast your way through everything.
I am actually very happy that this game is NOT influenced by Doom Eternal. I think it will take the fps genre quite some time to get over the damage Doom Eternal has caused to it.
I don't want fancy platforming in my retro shooter. I also don't want to have to switch my weapons constantly because my character can't carry anymore than five bullets of any type.
Name one game like that other than Doom Eternal released in the last 2 years tho?
@@itsrainingcats9968 sorry but I don't understand your question.
Lol damage? That's a bit dramatic imo. We have more variety now.
I am quite happy that voidpoint did not "evolve" ion fury more into one of these movment/dash shooters. Those often pretend to be retro shooters but they only have the look of one but offer a totally different gameplay experience requiring totally different reaction abilities from the players that may not everyone be able to provide. It´s more like they fill some kind of sub-genre like a missing link between the classic shooters up to the modern fast paced ones but hell, let classic shooters be classic shooters, there was already enough failvolution the last 20 years i did not like. I already hated turbo overkill as they deeper i got into it the more it felt like sonic the hedgehog with guns......and stopped playing it as the experience felt alien to me.
Totally agree with this statement. I said this in another comment, but I believe simplicity is the spice of life sometimes. Boomer and movement shooters can coexist.
I hope this motivates people to make more art of Ion Fury
Aside from the sexy stuff
@@lucascoval828 This is the internet after all. You can find a few pics of sexy fan art of Shelly
@@lucascoval828Rule 34, man.
I had no idea that Shelly was thicc the entire time with a big ass until I saw the Adtershock title screen. I always thought of her as a 90s style stick-thin chick with bolt ons.
@@darthcinema4262 There's hardly any, stop lying
Thanks for the review. I got to say though sometimes I want just an old school shooter. Games like Ultrakill and Turbo Overkill you have to be ON-POINT with your movement to beat those games. I always play the hardest difficulties from the start and I still enjoy games where I am not having to put 200% concentration on dodging and countering 1000 projectiles coming at me while pressing 10 dodge/equipment buttons every 2 seconds.
I don't know... the critique "this game that styles itself from a 1996 retro shooter is dated because it's 2023 not 2019" probably won't be something the target demographic will regard much. Still, I do get missing certain mechanics. A grappling hook would be nice :)
Ion Fury doesn’t feel like it’s from 2019; it feels like it’s from 1996, which is exactly what it’s aiming for.
Honestly I’m not sure why you were expecting it to be more modernized. It’s whole shtick is being old school, which is what makes it awesome.
Good review otherwise. I personally think Aftershock improves on the base game, having better enemy variety, more consistently interesting environments, and doesn’t overstay its welcome.
I'm happy with more of the same, I don't need sliding floor kicks or bouncing off the walls lol
Ion Fury was a blast to play through. Looking forward to this and PF
You should play the new demo before dropping your money. It’s super rough.
Yeah seriously. Try the demo. I was super hyped for it and the demo killed my interest. I don't know how they'll save it; it disappointed me that much.
Whats pf
@@nolin335 Phantom Fury. Also, I rather enjoyed the demo.
@@eetdarichmarx7423I’m sure it will change and get better
This expansion may not be next evolution of the genre, but i's so good to just return to the roots sometimes :)
Totally gonna play this
I never noticed before, but the collar under Shelly's neck in the portrait in the bottom-left actually changes depending on what type of armour you have.
That Hoverbike sequence was definitely worked on by the crew who made the EDuke32 Duke Nukem Forever 2013 mod. If not just inspired directly by it lol
I’ve been looking forward to this and the Black Labyrinth expansion for years. Can’t wait to play this tomorrow.
You don’t know me, but I have come to spread the good news. Dark labyrinth, is really good. Great time to be amid evil and ion fury fans.
Black Labyrinth was really good I didn't know that Aftershock was going to be released today
I’ve been waiting on this forever. So glad to hear it’s finally coming out.
Bring me a basic no frills retro shooter any day! 👍👍
man, those driving sequences give me serious Ashes 2063 flashbacks.
“Say, thats a nice bike.” Fucking love that reference
So issues with a lack of new mechanics, other than the new mechanics they did add…. in an expansion pack. Its a good buy then.
This game actually being on the original engine gives it such a cool look without giving it motion-sickness inducing movement like some of the other recent boomer shooters have. The environments and the references in here are stellar too. Happy to see Tech Noir get a shot out!
You might wanna check out Ashes 2063 as well then. It is a Fallout style game made in the Doom engine. And it is free as it started out as a total conversion mod before becoming its own standalone game.
Finally. We havent really had any updates about this expansion in like 2 years, and now theyre just shadow-dropping it out of nowhere.
more of the same is all i want , this looks awesome
That aunt May part had me rolling, just genius 😄
Nice. I love these new retro style shooters. Bought the base game on pc and ps4 and I don’t regret it at all. Definitely picking this up.
I'm actually glad it's more "old school" without the twitch shooting, arena bullet hell. I'm not a caffenated teenager anymore.
I couldn't care less for modern shooter mechanics. To me FEAR is and will always be the sweet spot for FPS combat. AI that tries to actually beat the player, melee moves that give you some movement but don't take over, particle effects from bullets flying everywhere, multiple avenues of approach for "arenas" instead of Dooms big open arenas, etc. The only thing you could possibly add to that is a smaller but more identified set of weapons with clear strengths and weaknesses instead of following the formula of 1-6 starting with the handgun you stop using after the first map.
You'd probably like Trepang2 then. Its gameplay is very inspired by FEAR. Also, the game's soundtrack was made by a friend of mine (bXmMusic).
to me the lack of dash, wallruning, grappling is a perk rather than detraction.
sounds pretty interesting tho i sortof wish this was done in same vein as 90s datadiscs complete overhaul (ex.: Duke Carribean)
Fun is fun, whether it's 2018 or 1998. And the Build engine will still be fun for many years to come. 🎂
In all honesty, I get the whole "indie shooters have evolved" thing, but I will always cherish boomer shooters more than movement shooters. Sometimes, the latter would do too much for its own good, whereas the former would stay simple most of the time. And I'm a firm believer that simplicity is also a spice of life.
I like em both i want both to exist
@@Gabbagool86 I do too. I just hate the idea that boomer shooters are considered 'outdated' by some, because it doesn't have x or y.
I'm very happy about this expansion and Phantom Fury but I'd KILL for a Blood game using the updated build engine.
Well, it already kinda exists. It's Blood : Death Wish. It's a mod with several new chapters and it's free. And it's maybe the best build engine game I've ever played.
@@-Zakhiel- There was also a new Blood mod announced at RD2023: Marrow. You can play it using Fresh Supply or nBlood or Raze!
Guess it's time for me to go from GDX to nBlood lmao
Amen, brotherrrrrrrr
"Dated" is such a funny term, especially in this context. When people use it, I just interpret it as "I don't like it" and nothing else. Chess is extremely "dated" and people still play it centuries later. I mean, dude, you're critiquing a genre whose sole reason for existing is replicating games from yesteryear. Yes, DUH it's going to feel "dated". THAT'S THE POINT. So you want fast movement, double jumping, dashing and grappling hooks. Okay, then go play a game that has those. This is a boomer shooter, not a zoomer shooter. Both have the right to exist.
I miss the days of expansion packs - they used to be meaningful chunks of additional content, whereas most DLC these days just feels like it was a few levels or items stripped from the base game.
And it's for that reason I kind of disagree with the end critique of this video, that the genre has moved on and this game feels dated. It's Ion Fury, it's an expansion to that, it's not trying to be anything other than more of the same. I don't want it to try and ape what the current 'in' thing is when I already know what the original game was and what it was trying to recreate, and if I wanted something like those other movement shooters... I'd just go and play one.
All I can say though is... roll on Phantom Fury! Can't wait for that.
That Washington 4 skins joke never gets old 😂
I feel like the base game was missing a weapon like the Homewrecker. I definitely plan on getting this DLC
Imagine waiting for this for so long you almost lost hope. Then you see some projects getting cancelled (SIN remaster). Then they made RealmsDeep and said "oh yeah, that game? We''re going to release it like tomorrow or something. Have fun!" At least it took them less than Dusk HD (5 years). This gonna be JUICY with Build Games Randomizer mod!
Weird dig at Dusk there. It's an HD remaster being released for free to celebrate the 5th anniversary, just announced yesterday.
It "took" 5 years, cause that's kinda how anniversaries work.
WHO says Sin Reloaded is canned? I haven’t heard that.
Sin Remaster isn’t cancelled lol. Nightdive confirmed there were troubles in development recently, but game is now worked on much more than before
Just like how long it took for the Rise of the Triad port to come out so now we don't have to deal with a janky reverse-engineered engine or the DOS version
Ion Fury has the most listened to by me soundtrack of all the games that I've encountered. It's a masterpiece!
It's alright. It sounded too much like the original Deus Ex, but not as good.
@@HereticHydra I've been listening to it on repeat soon a thousand times over. Helps me sleep and pass time when travelling actually :)
So glad this is finally coming out. Ion Fury remains my favourite of the legion of throwback FPS games and in my opinion (as someone who grew up playing these type of games in the ‘90s) is one of the few that actually gets it and feels like a real game of the time. Too many of these new attempts miss the point and shoehorn in a load of modern contrivances that destroy the feel (limited weapon loadouts, upgrades, Doom Eternal-isms and the dreaded “rogue-like elements”).
Agreed :)
Great point! Very well said.
You should check out Ashes 2063 and its sequel Ashes Afterglow.
"Enemies blend with the background" so happy you said that.
Eeeeh, I don't think that not being this new movement-shooter is a detriment. This game is good at being a Build engine game, with destructible and interactible envirionment and very complex exploration in those open-ended levels. These areas never tell you the whole story at the first glance, it later turns out that buildings weren't just decoration and were actually enterable and explorable envirionments. Now you see the main courtyard from behind 4th floor window and it's awesome.
Sure they could have added double jump and a jetpack but they didn't had to. The game is good enough to stand on its own feet in its own genre, doesn't have to be 10th movement shooter in the last 12 months.
Not being a fan of Doom Eternal and other fast moving fps', I wont be bothered by the dlc being the same gameplay as the base game.
FINALLYY AFTERSHOCK COMES OUT. I HAVE WAITED YEARS.
Going to say this as someone that have not played the old Doom or Duke games.
Ion Fury feels like a game that will be easier to get into then let say Selaco where I need to do everything Ion Fury does but also dash and all that.
Honestly I'm glad that this doesn't add any of those trendy new mechanics.
But speaking of games made in these older engines, maybe you would want to check out the game Ashes 2063. It started out as a total conversion mod for Doom, but was then later released as a standalone game for free. It is quite amazing what people manages to create in such an old engine with this one being more like Fallout than Doom.
You know I was so sure that aftershock had quietly gotten so big it had become phantom fury and that aftershock was quietly canned. color me surprised
I'm glad to have more Ion Fury. I dont want more games to be like Doom Eternal or Ultrakill. Not every shooter needs to be focused on movement or innovation. I'm estatic it's fun 🥳
The flying red guys exist just to shred your armor. But the Blood rules apply here, always toss explosives around blind corners.
I'm glad you changed your mind on the Ion Bow.
Hell no Gman xD this adhd arena twist on the retro shooters is not evolution lmao. It's a subgenre and i for one don't care jack SH*T about it, even Amid Evil is not my thing. I want pockets of varied enemies that actually challenge me, with a slower immersive walk to it, bathing in the glory of the level design and the details/secret hunting. AkA DN3D/Blood. Even Selaco knows this, and brings the lore and the level design, pushing switches and environment interaction during combat, but also keeps the action hyper and meaty. They can keep their anti gravity wallrun platform to platform dashes, with the serious sam AI xD Oldscool is oldscool. This arena stuff is a different genre, and that's not even an opinion in my opinion
Just realised that the enemy that disappears and respawns behind you is based on the Iron Maiden Seventh Son album cover Eddie.
It's getting a DLC?! Ah hell yes! Loved the original game.
I really hate the word DLC. We should go back to calling them expansion packs, like Gman did for this review.
@@Gatorade69 I hate the word pack even more. Sounds like it has a bunch of random stuff packed in. Also reminds me of card packs, the original loot boxes. Rather prefer the word "addon" (me feel old and wise just by typing it, nobody's calling em that nowadays). Though, doesn't change the fact that this is a downloadable content, hence it's still a dlc.
The outro patron list is so god damn good
Man, one of my favourite games!
Just a day to release, cant wait
How many videos have you released this month!? Working hard and I love it 🎉
Too many!
Well it sure took Forever for this to finally release. And look who just so happens to get a review copy for it the day before it launches😛
To be honest, playing a build engine game expecting it to be like a modern movement shooter feels like missing the point completely. Like playing a super mario world romhack while expecting it to feel like mario odyssey.
There are times when I don't mind the classics, however dated they may be. I still like 'Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem' because there just aren't that many shooters that put you up against so many enemies aside from 'Earth Defense Force', so I'm quite undernourished in that department (and also 'Siberian Mayhem' avoids a lot of the jerking around that the earlier games liked to get up to). I just feel like stuff like 'Ion Fury' isn't as fun as it could be. I'm looking forward to what they attempt to do with 'Phantom Fury', although I worry they're going for a darker story tone with that.
If Duke nukem just did this after 3D it would’ve been a huge sequel
It's on my Steam wishlist, it's definitely a retro style that reminds me of the times of the N64 with Duke Nukem 3D.
While it wasn't the worst way to play Duke3D (The Genesis version is probably the worst) I feel sorry for anyone who had to play it on consoles.
@@Gatorade69 For me, the N64 version has charm, but there are better versions.
wow, they did an expansion after a few years since release! I will check this out for sure
i like the review, but it’s really dumb to complain about a retro fps not being like doom eternal. think about what you are saying for a second, these are meant to recapture the essence of 90s shooters yet ur criticizing the game for basing its gameplay loop off doom and half life? that is just stupid man maybe some of us want a through and through throwback shooter
Wait 3D Realms have actually released one of their games? Better check that the sky isn't green in this alternative universe.
You say it didn't take inspiration from Doom Eternal, like it's a bad thing. IMO, it's a GOOD thing. These games became popular again because of a drought. A drought caused because the FPS genre "moved on". As someone who loves this genre, but hates Doom Eternal, this not changing is a very good thing. Lastly it is an expansion pack. It'd be kinda weird if they just changed how the game played mechanically.
I didn't even know this came out finally! Epic really needs to promote this shit!
Glad to know it's good
His biggest problem with the game is that it's too much like a retro shooter and not a parkour game with guns? Ion Fury was always a retro shooter so I don't know why he expected it to play like those games with ridiculous movement mechanics. I love retro shooters, so I see this expansion as a win.
Have you thought that perhaps many of us dont like movement shooters??? Ion Fury was awesome and more of that sounds great to me , no added Doom eternals bs into the mix.
Honestly, not having any of the new modern stuff is refreshing to me. Sometime I just want a more pure boomer shooter experience instead of sweating everywhere on my keyboard trying to mad dash quick swapping and learning weapon combos like it’s a fighting game.
Still sucks they had to change the games name. Ion Maiden was sooooo much better as a title.
I've been waiting for this for ages.
I'm definitely hyped to have more Ion Fury to play...once Aftershock releases on Xbox that is. And I can't believe I'm only just NOW hearing about Phantom Fury...
i really...REALLY do not like the idea of comparing a true "boomer" shooter to modern "mover" shooters. you want a mover shooter go ahead, get that, play that. Boomer shooters came back for a reason. because wed gone ages without anything. just because they have had a brief resurgence now, is absolutely no reason to suddenly hate them for not playing like "newer" games. the entire fucking point was to play something weve lost.
She should have been a sidekick to Wang from Shadow Warrior. Then they could name the sequel Kung Fury, and have it about chasing time travelling Hitler.
The best FPS shooters, I’ve played since it came out 4yrs ago. Really going to play Aftershock now, and not to mention the future sequel that’s gonna come out, somewhere in the near future.
Ugh, that Patreon list credit song is still so sick!
I cant speak for aftershock but what makes ion fury memorable is not that its a retro inspired fps but its level design was incredibly intricate and beuitiful. Other stuff like the destructability and enemy variety help too. Would say that in Ion fury circle strafing is only a good idea in open areas, closed areas unlike a lot of retro fps its better to peep around corners and pick things off.
I have been waiting for this for years
Just finished the entire expansion with 100% kills and secrets and mega secrets too. Had an insane amount of fun with this! Aftershock was definitely worth the wait.
Also, how did you finish this in 4 to 5 hours? I mean I guess it can be done if you literally ignore exploration and just rush for the ending of every level.
I'm friggin excited for this ! Holy cow, now I'll go and replay IF for the x-time.
A great expansion pack PLUS ion fury 2(phantom fury) the world is a great place!!
Not every game needs every mechanic
Tripple G Man does not understand that there are very hard-core old retro FPS playing boomer demographic who hate all those "Advancements" and "Innovations" in the genre in the recent years. This expansion pack is right up their moldy and ancient alley.
it sure is i like both kind of games but i don't want all fps to be movement based that sounds really boring.
Perfect for my boomer ass. I don't like the new movement shooters and honestly didn't even finish DOOM Eternal because I got so bored of it. Oh well
@@Johnnyboy414 Q.E.D.
@@Johnnyboy414 Yeah, I played through Doom Eternal once, had fun with it, but never had the urge to play it again afterwards lol.
Said innovations are also incredibly played out now. I'd be fine with never seeing a grappling hook in a fps again.
To be honest I don't mind it playing slower than a lot of the new retro indie shooters. I don't want every shooter to have advanced movement mechanics
15:42 Acid, obviosly.
I loved ion fury, wish listed Both aftershock and phantom fury. Can’t wait
Three videos in a week? Jesus Christ, you are insane over there down under.