Yeah, and it feels different to drive it using Param mode. I’ve automated it when going into different sections, and it can be great to help differentiate the emotional context of each section.
I actually had someone make these for me. But Softube has a branded stand on its way that is super slick looking with nice wood sides. I don't know if it will be out on day 1, but keep your eyes open for it.
That is cool, but still do not see why for example if I have a avid control fader why Softube Console 1 Faders would be a way better addition to my console 1 MKIII..... I want to know if Softube Faders enhance greatly the workflow of my console 1 MKIII experience
Well, in my opinion the Fader unit does enhance it since you have both a HUI control but also Console 1 Channel mapping and workflows such as favorites at your fingertips. It goes beyond traditional HUI and approaches things differently than EUCON. I guess it is a personal choice which you like, but I prefer having one fully integrated system, rather than something such as an S1 paired with Channel
@@ToddUrban would be great if you make a video showcasing the integration and how expand the integration of Console 1 Faders with Console 1 MKIII as an softube ecosystem ... so we can now that is more than just few features
Have you watched this? It goes a bit further. Also, Softube has some great content. The Best Pro Tools Controller - Softube Console 1 Fader Mk III th-cam.com/video/pqfcTVRpqQw/w-d-xo.html
Hi Todd, I really appreciate the information you share and the way you present it. I would like to know if Softube have plans to make a video about the integration of Softube Console 1 Channel and Fader with Pro Tools, as they’ve done with you for other DAWs. Although Channel MK3 is my main tool , it doesn’t integrate well with Pro Tools. It would be helpful to have videos that address the lack of integration with certain DAWs and show alternative ways of working and give solutions to those issues. When I saw the integration chart comparing Pro Tools with LUNA, Ableton, Logic, etc., it made me hesitate about purchasing it. I’m happy with my decision, but I believe a video like this would provide more clarity and encourage potential users who might have similar doubts. I’ve noticed that the Fader has four operating modes, one specifically for Pro Tools. Will this mode allow us to take full advantage of the Softube ecosystem, such as color assignment per channel and proper use of mute, solo, and sends, in Console 1 Channel as well? Or will be available only in Fader? Thanks
Yes. Actually, I made the video for them. 😉 It should be going live very soon. Short answer, Pro Tools works amazingly with the Mk III units. But it is a little different than the other DAWs since it is PT. This means there are 2 modes. One is a PT HUI mode for when you move faders, pan, and control 6 sends. Then at the press of a button, you can flip back to C1 mode where the faders control plugin output gain and basically become an extension of Console 1 Channel. It’s the best of both worlds and has worked flawlessly for me as I’ve been testing it. Only downside is that you can use only 8 of the 10 faders when in HUI mode, but that’s a limitation of PT. When in C1 mode, all 10 faders are in use.
I was a console 1 mk2 system user and I’m definitely considering the mk3 system but I have noticed in the newer promo videos including the new fader 1 and stand it seems to have the fader 1 a bit flat which would mean that you’d have to lean over to read the LED screens…. Is this a fair assessment?
Actually, I think you will be surprised at how you can see the screens from any angle. The are super high resolution, and even look great under bright studio lights. I’d say give it a try and see if it works for you.
Great. I have the fabulous console mk3 but when is the fader coming and what will be its price? I subscribe to softube mailing list, but there has been very little info, other than ‘this fall’. And the suddenly I find this video. Is the fader out yet, without me knowing it? Not in Europe, it seems…?
So in Pro Tools, there are 2 modes you will use. I did a separate video on this for Softube so make sure to look that up. But in HUI, you have 8 faders to control. In Console 1 mode, you’ll have 10 since it becomes an extension of Channel. When collapsing folders, that will work in HUI mode. But Console 1 mode will still let you see all the tracks. It is a best of both worlds.
Lack of transport and automation controls is a little disappointing. But at least this one has scribble strips! Tossing up whether to upgrade my UF8/UF1 with an extra UF8 or go for 2x C1F… 20 faders would be nice!
Understood. However, realize that the purpose of the product is to complete the full console style workflow, rather than being a DAW controller. For me, having that done properly is more important than squeezing in features that other companies have done, but with limited success. I could see the benefit of an add on piece at some point that added automation, transport, and maybe some other features. In the meantime, products such as the single Behringer or Presonus can fill those roles. I have the transport on my 5060 😉
WOW! Does this mean that FINALLY pro tools will be syncronising faders and pan and everything with console fader finally? Will this happen only with the new console1 gader mk3, or also with the old softube 1 fader ? Thanks in advance !
Actually, yes. It will control faders, pan, track select, sends, solo/mute, etc. Regarding the old unit, you need to have at least one Mk III unit to be able to access this control. You can use your old Fader unit as a 2nd unit once the other one communicates the certain DAWs. In regards to Pro Tools, you will need the Mk III to access the HUI support. (EDITED FOR CLARITY AFTER THE INITIAL POST)
@@ToddUrbanbut then could it be for example the console 1 mkiii and a console fader, and then in that case that would work? Because at the moment, the console 1 mk3 doesn’t control fader/send/pan etc. on pro tools yet… right?? Thanks for clarifying!
@@alvaroartimejimenez8461 Hi! So, when it comes to Pro Tools, you will need the Mk III Fader unit. I checked with the developers, and there are 2 main reasons for this. The first is that the screens and the modes are only available on the new hardware. (the old one obviously doesn't have screens) But the 2nd reason is that the new hardware is built with functionality that allows the hardware to access the control surface support that Avid made available to obtain the HUI control. Due to this workflow, it is a little different than other DAWs. But I've been using it with Pro Tools and am super happy. I would actually say it is my favorite 3rd party controller for Pro Tools, as it has a more fluid feel than others, and obviously allows you to tie into mixing with Console 1 Channel to make it feel like a full mixing system.
Great again, but assuming you have both consoles, why do they have some knobs and dials in common? For instance: the send knobs are the same on both, same for pan. Can those knobs be programmed, so that every button has a separete function AND you don't need to press shift all the time (for instance: send 1/2/3 on the Fader; send 4/5/6 on the Channel, etc)?
Well, some people will have only one or the other, so due to that, the redundancy makes sense. But yes, you can set Channel to control something like send 1 and Fader to control send 2, which is nice if you want to automate 2 different sends at the same time.
@@ToddUrban Thanks! Although I think there will be not much people buying a Fader without having a Channel... But probably Softube did good market research on this one. For my personally, a fast workflow is without to much 'shift'-pressing and double functions (and I'm a big Softube fan; I own 80% of their plugins, a Channel MK3 and Fader MK1).
@@gertkeunen2720 I agree. The real benefit of the system is to use both products. But there are some people who use only Faders on stage or to control their DAW. I do think you will see more development coming in the months that follow. Look at how much has already been added with Channel. ;) But feel free to keep suggesting any updates or workflow ideas here. I'm happy to read through them and share them with the development team for consideration.
Is that possible fader works in single track mode? Like all the fader sent to track 1's all sends, like fader 1 for send 1, fader 2 for send 2...So all 10 faders just work for a single track. And even more, I can assign multiple parameters to different fader(still in single track mode).
That could be a cool update to have parameters “spill out across the faders for a single track”. But as of now, each fader is dedicated to the track you are on. So you would just hit send 1 when you want to control that, and then hit volume to go back to volume. It is super fast, but I also see the idea you are suggesting and that it could offer some unique ways of mixing.
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Todd is simply the best!!!!!!!
Thank you Jeff!
Just saw that fader is in stock at my local shop… going tomorrow to get it!
killer
What was it retailing for?🤔😃
@@mattwelch8524 i’m in canada, so 1 million CAD… about $999 US
@mattwelch8524 it’s coming soon, so I’ll let the dealers answer that one. 😉
@@ToddUrban the suspense😭😂
V interesting, for me especially the tape and drive section. Loving my Mk3.
Yeah, and it feels different to drive it using Param mode. I’ve automated it when going into different sections, and it can be great to help differentiate the emotional context of each section.
Great vid, I was on the fence about grabbing a set of these. Thank you! Can't wait to get on a zoom call wit your extensive library of knowledge!
Always happy to setup a session. Just reach out through my website when you are ready. 😃
Yall killed this one Tod! Definitely wanna upgrade my setup!
thanks! Yeah, this is a game changer for me.
This is so useful, thanks for sharing!
Of course! More to come 😉
Nice tips thanks Todd!
Of course. Thanks for watching! 📺
Looks like the fader unit is coming soon 💪
I’d say so! 😜
very inspiring! where did you get these nice (wooden?) side panels to tie both together?
I actually had someone make these for me. But Softube has a branded stand on its way that is super slick looking with nice wood sides. I don't know if it will be out on day 1, but keep your eyes open for it.
@@ToddUrban Oh great, I'll be on the lookout for that! Thanks for the quick response!
I can't wait to use this!
I have Logic Pro for iPad as well as on my Mac Studio. Do you know if the Console 1 MK3 system supports iPad use?
I haven’t used it, but Softube worked directly with Apple on the Logic control, so I would assume everything works perfectly together.
Is it possible you could do a video on midi mapping 3rd party plugins in Studio One 6?
Maybe, but it isn’t a big priority. Joe Gilder or Gregor might have videos on this on the Presonus channel.
That is cool, but still do not see why for example if I have a avid control fader why Softube Console 1 Faders would be a way better addition to my console 1 MKIII..... I want to know if Softube Faders enhance greatly the workflow of my console 1 MKIII experience
Well, in my opinion the Fader unit does enhance it since you have both a HUI control but also Console 1 Channel mapping and workflows such as favorites at your fingertips. It goes beyond traditional HUI and approaches things differently than EUCON. I guess it is a personal choice which you like, but I prefer having one fully integrated system, rather than something such as an S1 paired with Channel
@@ToddUrban would be great if you make a video showcasing the integration and how expand the integration of Console 1 Faders with Console 1 MKIII as an softube ecosystem ... so we can now that is more than just few features
Have you watched this? It goes a bit further. Also, Softube has some great content. The Best Pro Tools Controller - Softube Console 1 Fader Mk III
th-cam.com/video/pqfcTVRpqQw/w-d-xo.html
@@ToddUrban will watch more, want to be sure if is what i think can be before purchasing one...thanks
Hi Todd,
I really appreciate the information you share and the way you present it.
I would like to know if Softube have plans to make a video about the integration of Softube Console 1 Channel and Fader with Pro Tools, as they’ve done with you for other DAWs. Although Channel MK3 is my main tool , it doesn’t integrate well with Pro Tools. It would be helpful to have videos that address the lack of integration with certain DAWs and show alternative ways of working and give solutions to those issues. When I saw the integration chart comparing Pro Tools with LUNA, Ableton, Logic, etc., it made me hesitate about purchasing it. I’m happy with my decision, but I believe a video like this would provide more clarity and encourage potential users who might have similar doubts.
I’ve noticed that the Fader has four operating modes, one specifically for Pro Tools. Will this mode allow us to take full advantage of the Softube ecosystem, such as color assignment per channel and proper use of mute, solo, and sends, in Console 1 Channel as well? Or will be available only in Fader?
Thanks
Yes. Actually, I made the video for them. 😉 It should be going live very soon. Short answer, Pro Tools works amazingly with the Mk III units. But it is a little different than the other DAWs since it is PT. This means there are 2 modes. One is a PT HUI mode for when you move faders, pan, and control 6 sends. Then at the press of a button, you can flip back to C1 mode where the faders control plugin output gain and basically become an extension of Console 1 Channel. It’s the best of both worlds and has worked flawlessly for me as I’ve been testing it.
Only downside is that you can use only 8 of the 10 faders when in HUI mode, but that’s a limitation of PT. When in C1 mode, all 10 faders are in use.
@@ToddUrban 🔥Thanks for your time!
I was a console 1 mk2 system user and I’m definitely considering the mk3 system but I have noticed in the newer promo videos including the new fader 1 and stand it seems to have the fader 1 a bit flat which would mean that you’d have to lean over to read the LED screens…. Is this a fair assessment?
Actually, I think you will be surprised at how you can see the screens from any angle. The are super high resolution, and even look great under bright studio lights. I’d say give it a try and see if it works for you.
@@ToddUrban Definitely will try! Also just a thought.... it would be nice to see a bundle/ upgrade deal on the console expansions.
Great. I have the fabulous console mk3 but when is the fader coming and what will be its price? I subscribe to softube mailing list, but there has been very little info, other than ‘this fall’. And the suddenly I find this video. Is the fader out yet, without me knowing it? Not in Europe, it seems…?
I would say keep your eyes peeled since it is days away. 😃
Thank you, Todd. Made my sunday!
@@ToddUrban Just ordered my early acces unit!!
@TRPJ24 nice! Welcome to the club!
I notice when you are collapsing folders that the last two faders don’t seem to be used. Does this mean it can only be done in HUI/MCU mode?
So in Pro Tools, there are 2 modes you will use. I did a separate video on this for Softube so make sure to look that up. But in HUI, you have 8 faders to control. In Console 1 mode, you’ll have 10 since it becomes an extension of Channel. When collapsing folders, that will work in HUI mode. But Console 1 mode will still let you see all the tracks. It is a best of both worlds.
When will the new Fader be released?
That is for Softube to announce, but obviously very soon based on the rollout of new content each day. ;)
Lack of transport and automation controls is a little disappointing. But at least this one has scribble strips!
Tossing up whether to upgrade my UF8/UF1 with an extra UF8 or go for 2x C1F… 20 faders would be nice!
Understood. However, realize that the purpose of the product is to complete the full console style workflow, rather than being a DAW controller. For me, having that done properly is more important than squeezing in features that other companies have done, but with limited success.
I could see the benefit of an add on piece at some point that added automation, transport, and maybe some other features. In the meantime, products such as the single Behringer or Presonus can fill those roles. I have the transport on my 5060 😉
WOW! Does this mean that FINALLY pro tools will be syncronising faders and pan and everything with console fader finally? Will this happen only with the new console1 gader mk3, or also with the old softube 1 fader ? Thanks in advance !
Actually, yes. It will control faders, pan, track select, sends, solo/mute, etc.
Regarding the old unit, you need to have at least one Mk III unit to be able to access this control. You can use your old Fader unit as a 2nd unit once the other one communicates the certain DAWs. In regards to Pro Tools, you will need the Mk III to access the HUI support. (EDITED FOR CLARITY AFTER THE INITIAL POST)
@@ToddUrbanbut then could it be for example the console 1 mkiii and a console fader, and then in that case that would work?
Because at the moment, the console 1 mk3 doesn’t control fader/send/pan etc. on pro tools yet… right??
Thanks for clarifying!
@@alvaroartimejimenez8461 Hi! So, when it comes to Pro Tools, you will need the Mk III Fader unit. I checked with the developers, and there are 2 main reasons for this. The first is that the screens and the modes are only available on the new hardware. (the old one obviously doesn't have screens) But the 2nd reason is that the new hardware is built with functionality that allows the hardware to access the control surface support that Avid made available to obtain the HUI control.
Due to this workflow, it is a little different than other DAWs. But I've been using it with Pro Tools and am super happy. I would actually say it is my favorite 3rd party controller for Pro Tools, as it has a more fluid feel than others, and obviously allows you to tie into mixing with Console 1 Channel to make it feel like a full mixing system.
Great again, but assuming you have both consoles, why do they have some knobs and dials in common? For instance: the send knobs are the same on both, same for pan. Can those knobs be programmed, so that every button has a separete function AND you don't need to press shift all the time (for instance: send 1/2/3 on the Fader; send 4/5/6 on the Channel, etc)?
Well, some people will have only one or the other, so due to that, the redundancy makes sense. But yes, you can set Channel to control something like send 1 and Fader to control send 2, which is nice if you want to automate 2 different sends at the same time.
@@ToddUrban Thanks! Although I think there will be not much people buying a Fader without having a Channel... But probably Softube did good market research on this one. For my personally, a fast workflow is without to much 'shift'-pressing and double functions (and I'm a big Softube fan; I own 80% of their plugins, a Channel MK3 and Fader MK1).
@@gertkeunen2720 I agree. The real benefit of the system is to use both products. But there are some people who use only Faders on stage or to control their DAW. I do think you will see more development coming in the months that follow. Look at how much has already been added with Channel. ;)
But feel free to keep suggesting any updates or workflow ideas here. I'm happy to read through them and share them with the development team for consideration.
When will the faders be available for purchase?
That is for Softube to announce. But I would say things are feeling close. 😉
@@ToddUrban Can't wait! Thanks for sharing!
I heard September
@MonarkTheproducer 😉
Avid, we looking at you now.
Actually, I think you’ll be surprised how well it works with Pro Tools in the Mk III version 😃
Dies it work in fairlight
If you can insert the plugin, you can have Console 1 processing from Channel. But Fader support would not be there.
Is that possible fader works in single track mode? Like all the fader sent to track 1's all sends, like fader 1 for send 1, fader 2 for send 2...So all 10 faders just work for a single track. And even more, I can assign multiple parameters to different fader(still in single track mode).
That could be a cool update to have parameters “spill out across the faders for a single track”. But as of now, each fader is dedicated to the track you are on. So you would just hit send 1 when you want to control that, and then hit volume to go back to volume. It is super fast, but I also see the idea you are suggesting and that it could offer some unique ways of mixing.