Wow man! Get called out by name AND see my truck and trailer! Awesome. So after nearly one year of ownership (December 14 will make one year) and about 18,000 miles I can say so far so good for my truck. I average around 15 mpg driving to work, which is a 30 mile round trip. I have gotten 17 mpg on two different 360ish mile round trips. And I get between 8.4-8.6 towing my trailer (pictured in the video). As for performance, I can’t complain. I don’t live in the Rockies by any means but here in East Kentucky and Southwest Virginia (elevations from 1100’-2500’) the best way to explain the roads are they are like a roller coaster lol. There all curves and several grades. The worst one is an 8%. That’s the one where the GM trucks need another gear between 2nd and 3rd. On 6 and 7% grades, it stays in 3rd gear and is able to stay at or above the speed limit (55 or 60 mph depending on where I’m at). So nice review. Pretty cool to see my truck and trailer. And again, no complaints from me.
@@supporterofsanity wow pretty small world after all. I’m pretty close to the KY/VA border. The mountain that serves as the border for KY and VA is the 8% grade I refer to actually. Locally know as Pound Mountain or Jenkins Mountain. It’s easily the toughest grade in this general area on a four lane highway. I’m also fairly close to the KY/WV border too.
@@2hotscottpro 8.5’x24’ enclosed. About 9’ tall. You can actually see it in the video when JB mentions my name. He shows a picture. I think a good safe weight estimate would be about 7500 pounds tops. I’ve never weighed it but when it was new empty according to the sticker it weighed about 4000 pounds. I’ve since completely finished the interior and have cabinets and lots of tools and other stuff in it. The car weighs 2290 I think. I had a 2020 Duramax real similar to my current truck and it only got 2 mpg better than my current gasser. From my experience trailer weight don’t matter too much on mpgs. It’s the size and type of trailer.
@@matthewanderson9912 I can’t see me not having a duramax doing 10 grades pulling 7500-8k toy hauler.I wish it was deleted but not gona pay a fine.At what time in vid is your truck n trailer.
This is the color of my 2022 AT4 3500. I just stare at it, I just love this color, especially with the black AT4 trim. IMO, hands down the best-looking truck on the road, and I get to drive it whenever I want, lol
That IS a beautiful color. For 2023 they are calling it Volcano red. The AT4 red is a beautiful truck with that black interior trim. Great choice. Love the beefy front look of the GMC.
This color is in my opinion the best one for the GMCs. I like it even better than the bright red on them (not sure of the name but it’s Red Hot on the Chevy), and bright red is always my favorite typically.
I had that color on 21 elevation and it is incredible....best looking truck I've ever owned.... I use to stare at it as well Came out of HD one day owning it 1 week and it was parked in front...I kinda forgot for a sec and when I saw it I thought damn that is a beautiful truck then remembered it was mine, lol 😆
I recently bought a 2022 Silverado 2500HD with the 6.6 gas engine. Best truck I’ve ever owned. Previous to this I had a 2013 2500HD with the 6.0 Vortec which was also an excellent truck but I do love having more power/torque and a surprisingly very comfortable ride.. even when not towing. Great video 👍
having bought this exact truck 2 weeks ago in black, I wanted to mention it can have navigation built in. mine came stock with the navigation tab, but would imagine it's a download once you activate the onstar. I was hesitant to go with the gas engine but after test driving both, I decided the diesels extra torque would be wasted on me for my needs. I used that saved $10K to buy the At4 HD with sunroof, rear window, wireless charger, and so on. basically the fully loaded version with gas was the same price as the base model with the deisel. so far no regrets. since my camper only weighs 8K pounds it will have all the power I need I think. absolutely love this truck. great review
What mpg are you seeing when hauling? I installed a cold air intake and not sure I am sold on it when towing. NC to FL with 8k travel trailer and just over 8mpg for me. Seems a touch low.
@@adventuresbyace4939 Wow thats terrible MPG. Diesel all the waywhen towing a TT across State lines. Thats my advice anyway. Just makes it a better trip overall, WAY less noise from under the hood.
Got a 6.6 Silverado. After looking and driving the Ford and Ram which were nice I went with the Silverado and love the Truck. Glad I bought it before the prices continue to climb even higher.
GM 6.0 and 6.6 gas are both very nice. Probably the nicest gas truck motors. I have a 2016 GMC 6.0 and absolutely love it. My truck has the 4:10 rear end. I live about 2 miles from that dealership. Keep up the good videos!
I really enjoy my 6.6 gasser! The payload is amazing, 3600 pounds for a 2500, and it handles well. I do wish it had the 10 speed transmission though. Looking forward to the new 2024 model year with the 10 speed.
I have a 22 Silverado 2500 HD gas and I absolutely love it. I do have a heavy destination trailer that I tow very infrequently and it does fine. I have a boat that I tow multiple times a week during the summer and it does amazing with that. I do wish it had the 10 speed transmission though.
Just got a 2024 Chevy 2500 6.6 gasser with the Allison....its a beast! Just ordered the catch can to combat the direct injection issue with the oil. Conventional towing went up to 16k on my door sticker.
I have a 2022 GMC with the 6.6. This thing pulls like a diesel. I carry a welder , 100 gal. Fuel tank, and tools. It loves to pull. It doesn’t shift down constantly when you step on the pedal. Its never on the highway and still consistently gets 16 mpg. Before this truck i had a 2017 F-350. With the 6.4. Same setup as far as weight and it got regularly got 11 mpg
I was in the market for the new 6.6 gasser. I had the 6.0 with 4:10 rear towed a 9k trailer ok albeit slowly. I ended up getting a used ram cummins for cheaper, with more options than the new gasser would have been. I don't regret that decision in the least.
We owned 3 6.0L trucks from 2002-2004 and plowed and towed trailers. We never had a problem with power. The vortec was probably the most reliable v8 truck motor ever made
I love my ‘22 2500HD 6.6L gas truck! The diesel pickups can’t hang with it, empty. Many have tried. And pulling my 33.5’ toyhauler trailer (11,500#), the truck doesn’t know the trailer is behind! I use the Fastway E2 hitch system, and the combination makes this ideal. Thank you for your reviews, JB!
I owned an 01 2500 hd with the 8.1L mated to a 5 speed Allison and a 4.10 rear end. I currently own a 22 2500hd 6.6L gas. The 01 felt much stronger than the 22 does. It feels snappy empty, but with any weight behind it it feels soft. In 24 it will get the 10 speed auto, which I guarantee will help tremendousl. I miss that 8.1L torque, but not it's appetite.
Stuart, had the same. 01 8.1 2500HD. now sporting 2020 f350 7.3 tremor with the 4.30 rear end. Almost 20 years of new tech and the new engines have similar HP and torque. A little better MPG towing with the 7.3. Night and day difference daily driving. Don't miss 8.1 appetite, but will say it treated me well for just under a decade.
@@2015_Rubicnn yes, agreed, but the rated torque numbers are not far off, with the 6.6 being rated 60hp higher. The 8.1 pulled hard from idle to redline, 6.6 goes to sleep by 4000 rpms. I think the 10 speed trans will help in 24, but I also think Ford has the right idea with big cubic inches. The fuel economy is just as good.
@Stuart Meier The 496 was obviously tuned etc for longevity and has 20 year technology deficiency compared to the 6.6L. Either way it's where the numbers are placed in the RPM band and not necessarily the peak. That 496 makes a lot of torque just about 1k RPM up to about 3200. Not sure about the 6.6...but I'm sure it will do fine with the 10 speed. Just image that 496 with today's technology and a 10 speed.
@@2015_Rubicnn totally, I really didn't understand why they dropped that option. I assume the lack luster of the 6.0 pushed sales of the diesel which must make them the most money. I would love to see a big block reintroduced. A return of the "454" would sell thousands of trucks just for novelty, and with today's tech would be a viable option. I am also curious to see how Chrysler does with a turbo straight six. That could be a real industry impact for pickups if done right, but I would think it will need to be north of 5.0L displacement to fulfill HD demands.
My 2022 silverado 2500hd gasser is an awesome truck. I'm not towing hardly at all. Just pushing snow. And she'll push snow all day and all night. I think it just comes down to buying the truck that fits your needs.
Yeah. I don't pull enough to warrant a diesel. I bought the 2020 4x4 2500. I average between 15 and 16 unloaded. Best i ever got was 18.9 mpg. My camper weighs around 11k. Pulls it with no issues. My last trip through Arkansas I averaged 12mpg. 31k on it now. Thinking about trading for the 10 speed when it hits the market. my only complaints about the truck is the old tranny and 3.73 gear. Would rather have the 10 speed with 3.73. If I keep it it's getting 4.10 or 4.29
I have concerns about the DI system and carbon build up, but I actually don't know of anyone who's actually had issues specifically with the 6.6L gas engine. However, I do know of quite a few who've had carbon build up issues with other GM GDI engines. For that reason, I have my concerns about the 6.6L gas.
Check Out BG Products located in Wichita Kansas. The company has been around for decades is well known for the 44K product as well as fuel / air induction service to address carbon buildup on the valves and top of the pistons.....for both Port Injection and Direct Injection. BG also has special equipment for servicing the power steering and cooling systems as well as automatic transmissions.
I am hoping to order a 2024 at4 3500.. $85k is just too steep for a duramax for me so been weighing in on gas...$70k still and lookin at a new jayco 31mb which is 10k+ dry... but needing to daily the truck, diesel and def fuel just doesnt make sense for the few camping trips per year...
Now in days gasser are able to keep up with diesels, yes you lose some of that low end torque but for most people a gas does the job and saves some $$$ too. When I upgrade the 6.6 gas will be my choice if i can find one.
Between that and the ford 3/4ton 7.3 gas tremor are the baddest truck. That’s a perfect truck for outdoorsman that have a 26’ foot 6500lb ish sea ark catfish boat that weighs around 6,500 when you put stuff in it or those that have a 10k toy hauler to the hunting ground
Well, you have a nice truck. Any issues with the transmission. I have a 23 Sierra 2500 AT4 6.6 diesel. The transmission has just taken a dump at 42000 miles. Now the power train warranty does cover the repairs, but I need a new valve body and the part is on a national backorder, maybe 4 months to get my truck back. Not acceptable to say the least. Any glue what is going on with the GM parts issues?
Good option for a long travel trailer or car hauler. Side note, have you ever come across an AT 4 with color matched fender flares? I don’t know why more aren’t ordered that way. After a few years the plastic starts getting gray even with protectant.🇺🇸💪
@@jeffreyriggs1911 lol yeah your right, i was confusing fender flares with wheel well covers. The 2022 AT4/Denali is fixed color black. But as of 2023 the AT4/Denali the front bumper and wheel wells can be ordered to match truck color. Verified via GMC build/price site. On our ordered SLT 2023 we are able to get matching wheel well color, but not the front bumper. ✌️out 😉
Great looking truck there. In the HD gas class, Ford is definitely holding it down with the 7.3L gas though. TFL truck proved that in the Ike challenge. The new 10 speed will definitely help this truck with towing heavy. Colton Brown did a review of the 6.6 gas th-cam.com/video/FoothEDwIXE/w-d-xo.html, and sums it up well. The push rod 7.3L is a superior engine, no doubt. DI gas engines are not built to last. Time will tell there, but the 7.3l ford will out last, out perform this 6.6 all day. Great vid! Keep ‘em coming!
One issue I have with this engine is its direct injection only. The valves will coke up with carbon over 50-100K miles. It’s a common occurrence on other GM LT engines. Won’t necessarily be an issue but long term 150-200K+ miles burning cheap 87 octane will definitely lead to intake valve deposits. I wish GM offered 4.10 gears as an option. The 10 speed will help in 2024 no doubt. I’ll be cross shopping the 2500 ZR2/AT4X 6.6 gasser against the 7.3 Tremor (port fuel injection; 4.30 gears) when I upgrade in a year or two. Another issue I’ve read on the forums is this 6.6 gas has a reputation for drinking some oil. Not a huge issue, but I’ve read enough forum complaints about it to mention it.
Carbon build-up has nothing to do with the octane rating of the fuel. Typically, you want Top-Tier certified fuel like Exxon, Chevron, Citgo, She’ll, BP, etc. They have better additive packages. But in a DI engine, they only help keep the injectors a little cleaner. The intake valves are fucked no matter what fuel is used because it doesn’t get sprayed across the back of the intake valves.
Check Out BG Products located in Wichita Kansas. The company has been around for decades is well known for the 44K product as well as fuel / air induction service to address carbon buildup on the valves and top of the pistons.....for both Port Injection and Direct Injection. BG also has special equipment for servicing the power steering and cooling systems as well as automatic transmissions. Thermal Activity (heat) is the death of engines, transmissions, tires, etc. The flushing service on transmissions is the way to go...but only if the first service is performed at 30,000 or 40,000 miles...well in advance of manufacturer's recommendations. The "drain and fill" method does not remove dirty ATF from the torque converter. There are other competitors for some of these services now.....Wynn's; Valvoline, etc. All of the new 10 speed transmissions are way more complex than the prior 6 speeds...and the "piece of junk" GM 8 speed - 8L90 transmission. The 10 speed transmissions built for Class 2 (F250 / 2500) and Class 3 (F350 / 3500) trucks was accomplished via "joint venture" between Ford and GM, with Ford engineers leading the project. The result was the Ford - 10R140 and the GM - 10L1000. Both transmissions had problems early on (no surprise there). Newsflash: The 10L1000 is not an 'Allison' transmission. The 10R140 and 10L1000 share most of the same internal components and parts.
@Two45s I don't know why everyone keeps making these false statements. The 10L1000 has nothing to do with the Ford 10sp. Try doing some research!!! The Ford GM joint venture 10sp is what you will find in a 1500 or a Tahoe, camaro, escalade.
The 2024 with the new 10sp and this 6.6 gasser is going to be legit!! Cant wait to get one of those! Only thing i wish is it had closer to 500 pd ft of torque. They have 495pdft of torque in their 1500 platform so it would be nice to have at least that and even just above 500pdft torque in their 2500hd platform. Cant wait for the 2024s though!
Nice to see a full set of analog gauges, instead of the digital alternative. And a key? It's like an actual truck, almost. Looking at a 3500HD. May hold off until next year for the 10 speed. Looked at a Ford 350. Not paying an extra $5,000 just because a dealer thinks that they can ask that. Not with Ford's current (lack of) reliability issues. A couple dealers have sneered at a custom order, saying you get what they can get. But they seem to be ordering some with some bells and whistles. Just not the ones I want. Happy to see the 6.6 doesn't have the fuel management system. It was bad 40 years ago, and it's still bad today, apparently. GM needs to learn from its disasters. Ford too, for that matter.
If you want a Ford F350 contact Granger Motors, Inc. (Ford and Jeep dealer) in Iowa. Granger offers great deals. Yes, you will pay below MSRP. I ordered a 2022 Ford F350 Lariat 7.3L 4WD - UP - BAP - Tremor with Warn winch and several additional options - Carpet Delete - Power Running Boards, etc. I took a year to get the truck, but worth the wait because I paid 2% below invoice. Can't get that good of a deal now. In addition, Ford has reduced allocations on the Super Duty for all Ford dealers. You might have to wait and order a 2024. Call Granger and ask to speak to Ashleigh.....she is top notch You will save money at Granger even including a plane ticket to pick up the truck and fuel driving home.
Ford option: 2023 7.3L Godzilla 430hp/485 lb-ft (2020-2022 version = 430hp/475 lb-ft). Ford offers 4.30 gears with the Godzilla (2020-2023), or 3.55 gears (2020-2022), or 3.73 (2023).
The 7.3 gas from ford is a more simpler design then this new 6.6 from GM. With both set ups being a new design I’m gonna have to go with fords 7.3 as a more reliable design for the long term.
The Fords actually is a new design for them. It’s the first OHV engine they have produced in over 20 years. GM has been making direct injected gas V8s for nearly 10 years in the trucks (1500s). The 6.6 is also built a lot stronger too.
The biggest problem with the 6.6 gas is the direct injection. Most other manufactures have added port injection to their DI engines to eliminate carbon buildup on the intake valves. Also the 10 speed transmission is not available until the 2024 model year.
Best way to avoid any problems with direct injection is installing a catch can. After 2500 miles there was less then an ounce in mine. So over time I'm sure it will pay off keeping the intake clean. 155 bucks and about 5 minutes to install....super easy. Aside from that, it's a great setup. Makes the best use of fuel injection.
400.55 technically. And it is a small block, Not a big block. It’s very similar in performance to the Vortec 7.4s of the late 90s as far as low end power goes. And while I have no first hand experience, I’ve heard it’s very similar to the Vortex 8.1s of early 2000s. On paper it’s better.
I was getting 10mpg in town but live by beach and tons of stop signs every block It liked the highway 17-19mpg It did not like stop and go.....whatever though it's a 3/4 ton...
I absolutely love my 6.6 gasser from gmc definitely has lots of power. But personally think my hemi had more low end torque. Both had the same 3.73 rear axle ratio. I just think people give the ram a bad rap because it's an old engine. Cant wait for the hemi engine hopefully coming with the totally new truck from ram in the future
@Toy Bennon "Blu said the Hurricane will be available in some Stellantis models this year. Although he would not be specific about vehicle applications, he noted that the new inline 6-cyl. engine is intended only for vehicles with longitudinal engine placement. “It fits in any [longitudinal-engine] vehicle that has a V6 or V8 today,” he said. More specifically, “The Hurricane twin-turbo I-6 is the primary internal combustion powerplant of the future in North America for vehicles using the STLA Large and STLA Frame platforms,” said the company’s release detailing the new engine. In case you are not aware the RAM 2500 is a STLA frame platform and the 3.0 HO Hurricane is slated to be the STLA frame platform's primary gasser by 2024.
Love the truck and the color of it. I'll never understand why chevy went away with the 4.10 gear in there gas HD trucks. My HD chevy and gmc are alot older (01 &02) but both have the 4.10 gears in them. If these newer trucks come with a 4.10 gear no matter what trans was behind them id be all over, but honestly the 4.10 would be perfect in this truck.
First gear in them is much deeper even with a higher rear end. For example, an 01 with 4.10 with the 4l80e will have a 1st gear of 2.48x4.10 for a total of roughly 10:1, where this truck has 4.06 x 3.73 for a total reduction of roughly 15:1. So it's geared 50% steeper with an extra 100 ft-lbs at the engine. Total 1st gear torque of the 01 is roughly 3600ft-lbs at the hub, this one will be roughly 7000 ft-lbs at the hub.
@@ecreps1 finally someone else says this lol. I’m not against choice and wish GM would offer the option since so many people are dead set that they need the 4.10 gear, but when the 6 speed transmissions came to be it made them all but unnecessary, and especially now with the 10 speeds. Even a 3.08/6L80 in a lot of 1500 trucks has a shorter first gear final drive than a 4.10/4L80 does.
@@scottburns4515 ratios for the 5 speed Allison are 3.09:1, 1.80:1, 1.40:1, 1:1, and 0.71:1. So multiply each by 4.1 and that is the final drive for each gear. The 6L90 ratios are 4.02:1, 2.36:1, 1.53:1, 1.15:1, 0.85:1 and 0.67:1. Your Allison with the 8.1 has a 12.66:1 final drive in 1st gear. A new 6.6 gas with the 6L90 and 3.73 has a 15.03:1 final drive. A good amount shorter. 2nd gear you have a 7.38:1 compared to 8.80:1. 3rd is 5.74:1 compared to 5.70:1. 4th gear you are direct drive so 4.10 compared to 4.29:1. The rest are OD gears. So as you see the 6.6 L8T with 3.73 gears and the 6L90 compares very favorably to the 8.1 with 5 speed Allison.
on Fords "build and price" tool on the website, for 2024, if you get the FX4 package it requires you to get the 3.73 gears. Just saying, a lot of these trucks have the Z71 package or FX4 package. Soo if you're trying to strike a balance between tow truck and off road vehicle the 3.73 is pry good.
It is an easy engine to work on …but you don’t have to work on it 😊 I’m running both as of right now, I prefer to daily drive the gas and use the diesel for most other trips . Diesel is in Denali trim and gas is in regular cab 3500 Pro
Not sure how you say Ford doesn't stand a chance. The 7.3 Godzilla has more hp, more torque, better payload and towing in the super duty. The only thing might be better is fuel economy.
And that is why we went with the 2023 6.2 gas 1500 cause we could get the 10 speed transmission with the 3.42 for 420 horsepower @ 5600 max trailering 13,000k compared to the 2023 6.6 gas 3.73 six speed transmission 401 horsepower @5200 max trailering 18,500. Yes the payload is 4008 compared to 2415 in the 1500. But our 5th wheel is small and we have been waiting for 2 years for all the truck companies to get their chips in place, really for the market to smooth out a bit and normalize. And the prices have gone up by $20k. We just cannot wait another year for the HD 2024. For us the time was now. That HD is a great truck and we were ok with buying more truck than need be. But we did not want the that 6 speed or 3.73, and we really liked the fact that the 6.6 did not have that Fuel Dynamic Management System. Another great video. PS we also will get those HD trailering mirrors on our 1500 SLT. Peace out. 🙂
The Hd has better brakes and cooling for the engine and transmission for towing. Your 1/2 ton might be able to pull it but it’s beating the components up.
Yep, so much easier in 2500....more weight, beefier frame, etc.....just such a stronger truck Ive bounced back and forth cpl times and should have kept the 2500 HD.....
At least it still has the cigar lighter so you can plug in some twelve volt accessories. I have to have a yellow warning light for my job and no where to plug it in. Needs the 12 volt cigar lighter hole to use it. I have a 2022 refreshed version Silverado.
I build these 6.6 engines . My son bought a 2022 with the 6.6 and I personally think it sucks gas a lot more than the 6.0 like I have in my 2016 . I was looking at farting the 6.6 desiel. Like the mileage on that .
They are great riding trucks but GMC edges it out stock for stock. Add the air suspension to the RAM, it may ride just as good but you gotta spend $1800 👀
@@JB_WhoWork I have heard the F350 will give you a good ride only of you get the high end seats. Tractor Time with Tim just got a gasser 7.3 and did a review on it compared to his 2018 diesel. Even TFL follows him. LOL
That’s a beautiful truck; but GM should have lead with the 10 speed. With GM you’re always sacrificing something. If they had gone with 10 speeds, or even 4.10 axles, I would not have looked elsewhere. Having said that I’m completely happy with my Hemi ZF8 and 4.10 gears.
I think I read rhat ford and gm co worked on the 10spd.. it was said ford gets it in trucks first and gm in cars..now they flipping and can have in both. I am excited about the 10spd.. and interrior upgrade. ordering a 3500 at4 when 24s are able to be.
@@mountainsintomemories9895. Oh you’re sacrificing with Ram and their crappy MDS lifters that fail and chew up the cam lobes. At least GM left that junk off the 6.6. I can’t find any issues that have been prevalent in the GM 6.6 at all.
@@holdenc3082 my truck sees almost no idle time, so I’m willing to roll the dice. I might be adding a hellcat oil pump here soon to bring up the pressure.
Every review complains about the 6l90e. Gm did it for a reason. Its a proven built trans and considering most of these trucks are gonna be fleet trucks, thats what companies look for. 6 speed all day.
@@holdenc3082 better because its not Government Motors.. Cheap Mexican junk. Way to many videos of these 6.6 gassers with oil consumption issues and carbon build-up. It is a poor attempt from GM.
Yeah maybe if you know nothing about engines and only look at hp and Torque specs. Gm has always made better gas engines than Ford. Look at the 6.0 vortec which Is what this engine is based off of I’ve seen those things with over 1 million miles on them. I’m not saying the 7.3 is bad but in heavy duty trucks I just really don’t care about the fact that it has a faster 0-60 and is 0.7 liters bigger
The 6.6L using DI is the main reason I would never buy one of these. Ford & Ram both use port injection which is much better for truck duty. DI has it's benefits but carbon buildup is not something you should be concerned about in a pickup.
You are being biased again..LOL. I own a 2020 Ford 7.3 modified with a Carli level and 37's and 2 of my guys who are die hard GM guys (and I am a GM guy as well) have the 2021 6.6 gas on a Chevy and 2022 GMC truck..both stock. The Ford 7.3 out pulls the 6.6 all day long even with level and 37's. Its not even close and maybe the 10 speed has helped. More of the torque is where we need it and we tow 6-13k all the same trailers most of the day. Even empty the 7.3 is quicker but more so when we have a load on it.
I Changed out them junk ass rancho shocks to Bilsteins front and rear.. totally different truck! It’s embarrassing for 80k$ get 30$ shocks still c’mon gm, the wheel hop and needing chiropractor after driving 100 miles is gone
research the hell out of every vehicle your considering.automakers & dealers are counting on you to NOT do your homework.so they can keep milking your wallet the entire duration of your ownership.the old saying is still true.a fool and his money are soon parted.& there are alot of fools out there in todays world who regret their foolish buying decisions.DONT BELIEVE ADVERTISING, THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL LIARS.
The 6.6 has great output numbers but it's direct injection coking prone design is not at all a long term reliable design like Fords 7.3 port injection motor. Ford finally went in the right direction and as a Chevy fan I wish gm would build their HD truck with a 8.8 liter big block design option like they sold PSI industrial motor company.
@@holdenc3082 No Problems with direct injection...........YET.....just wait, there will be long term. However, there are methods of maintenance to avoid and or prevent those types of problems. Check Out ----> BG Products - Wichita Kansas. Many shops have BG equipment and products. Look up and read about the PG fuel / air induction service for both port injection and direct injection.
All you guys bitching about the 6 speed, enjoy the $10k it costs when your transmissions go up in smoke. The 6L90E is a much better fleet transmission and is proven to go 250k or more with hard use if it’s maintained properly.
This truck is GDI,the Fords and Rams use port injection only which is better for reliability and simplicity especially with the idling these trucks often do in fleet and contractor service . For 2023 the GM is the weakest base engine offering,Being topped by both Fords 6.8 and 7.3l port injection ,and Chryslers 6.4L 415 hp Hemi. The GMs do have stout running gear for sure, the 6 speed automatic is reliable and proven. The lack of a 4.10 ratio is an issue especially only having a 6 speed automatic and tall tires. This truck is a 1 ton with 2500 decals so no sense comparing it to the true 3/4 tons sold by ford and Ram. The best 3/4 ton truck for towing 5 th wheel is the f250 7.3L w 4.30 gearing.Night and day better than the GM 2500 1 ton.
You think this is better than Ford's new 6.8 gasser and 7.3 godzilla gas engine What's the fuel mileage, 17 to 18 mpg 7.3 is around 14 mpg, the old 460, lol Ford gas engines mated with 10 speed transmission
Towing very heavy loads with a gooseneck, nice to have the extra weight of a solid axle up front...plus more reliable and more durable than IFS...and better axle articulation / wheel travel off-road.
According to dyno charts it absolutely has the grunt. They have very similar torque curves. But that’s just numbers on paper. Regardless Ford charges a pretty significant amount extra to just get the 7.3. That’s a typical Ford move. And also Ford hasn’t built an OHV engine in over 20 years (until the 7.3 of course). That means something. So while I think Ford has went in the right direction to finally ditch the junk OHC “modular” motors they have pushed for the past 24 or 25 years, let’s not get carried away with the 7.3. And also it’s my belief that it will be rendered pointless next year when they offer the 6.8 with pretty similar power output for no up charge.
1st of all.. you need lotion on your hands.. 2nd of all .. I have a 22 at4 2500 gas and I was able to tow 17.3000 lbs. Like it was nothing. So If you want a gasser.. don’t listen to these diesel” headeds &&’ . Get what you like and want 💯
Gm cheats by bumping up the gvwr to get the extra payload. Not much different than Ram. Ram 3/4 is just better a better appointed interior. Rear coil springs are also really nice loaded or unloaded.
I have a 2017 Chevy 2500 duramax and 2018 Ram 2500 Cummins. Both are 4x4 trucks. Chevy ride is smoother than the Ram. I am not talking a little smoother. I mean a lot smoother. No comparison. I like both trucks. If I am taking a road trip, I definitely take the Chevy.
You are tied to The Seiner dealership! No doubt this truck is going to be superior in your own mind. Run this thing against the Ford and get your eyes opened. GM has been beat down by Ford for many years and the beat down will continue.
Well consider the 6.6L doesn’t compete with the 7.3L because technically it’s an optional gas engine. I like the 7.3L a lot but the 6.6L is no slouch 👍🏾
No it's still a gutless gas motor and a heavy duty truck 400 horse and 460 torque is below their half ton lineup this is a larger engine it should do at least what the 62 does if not at least 30% better. I don't care how you slice it it's a turd same goes for the 73 and the Ford or the six four in the Dodge with the technology we have nowadays there's no reason why these things should be that low especially in a truck that's more than capable of handling a heavy duty load
Another GM motor that burns oil . No thanks .... everything GM seems to be blaaaa. As far as that higher gvwr . Yeah that awesome for camper pulling. Not so much for anything else. Why is that???? Must gooseneck trailers are rated at 15k . Hook that up to this truck and just like that your over 26k. Unless you have a de-rated trailer. You are over cdl.
Wow man! Get called out by name AND see my truck and trailer! Awesome.
So after nearly one year of ownership (December 14 will make one year) and about 18,000 miles I can say so far so good for my truck. I average around 15 mpg driving to work, which is a 30 mile round trip. I have gotten 17 mpg on two different 360ish mile round trips. And I get between 8.4-8.6 towing my trailer (pictured in the video).
As for performance, I can’t complain. I don’t live in the Rockies by any means but here in East Kentucky and Southwest Virginia (elevations from 1100’-2500’) the best way to explain the roads are they are like a roller coaster lol. There all curves and several grades. The worst one is an 8%. That’s the one where the GM trucks need another gear between 2nd and 3rd. On 6 and 7% grades, it stays in 3rd gear and is able to stay at or above the speed limit (55 or 60 mph depending on where I’m at).
So nice review. Pretty cool to see my truck and trailer. And again, no complaints from me.
I’m originally from East Ky but been in North KY for about 16 years now.
@@supporterofsanity wow pretty small world after all. I’m pretty close to the KY/VA border. The mountain that serves as the border for KY and VA is the 8% grade I refer to actually. Locally know as Pound Mountain or Jenkins Mountain. It’s easily the toughest grade in this general area on a four lane highway.
I’m also fairly close to the KY/WV border too.
Man that’s a thirsty truck.What’s your trailer weight? Flat or in closed?
@@2hotscottpro 8.5’x24’ enclosed. About 9’ tall. You can actually see it in the video when JB mentions my name. He shows a picture. I think a good safe weight estimate would be about 7500 pounds tops. I’ve never weighed it but when it was new empty according to the sticker it weighed about 4000 pounds. I’ve since completely finished the interior and have cabinets and lots of tools and other stuff in it. The car weighs 2290 I think.
I had a 2020 Duramax real similar to my current truck and it only got 2 mpg better than my current gasser. From my experience trailer weight don’t matter too much on mpgs. It’s the size and type of trailer.
@@matthewanderson9912 I can’t see me not having a duramax doing 10 grades pulling 7500-8k toy hauler.I wish it was deleted but not gona pay a fine.At what time in vid is your truck n trailer.
That engine is awesome: no AFM, no DFM and no start/stop.
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This is the color of my 2022 AT4 3500. I just stare at it, I just love this color, especially with the black AT4 trim. IMO, hands down the best-looking truck on the road, and I get to drive it whenever I want, lol
That IS a beautiful color. For 2023 they are calling it Volcano red. The AT4 red is a beautiful truck with that black interior trim. Great choice. Love the beefy front look of the GMC.
Ford's 'Rapid Red' with Black Appearance Package looks great too. Love the deep red colors!!
This color is in my opinion the best one for the GMCs. I like it even better than the bright red on them (not sure of the name but it’s Red Hot on the Chevy), and bright red is always my favorite typically.
I had that color on 21 elevation and it is incredible....best looking truck I've ever owned....
I use to stare at it as well
Came out of HD one day owning it 1 week and it was parked in front...I kinda forgot for a sec and when I saw it I thought damn that is a beautiful truck then remembered it was mine, lol 😆
I recently bought a 2022 Silverado 2500HD with the 6.6 gas engine. Best truck I’ve ever owned. Previous to this I had a 2013 2500HD with the 6.0 Vortec which was also an excellent truck but I do love having more power/torque and a surprisingly very comfortable ride.. even when not towing. Great video 👍
having bought this exact truck 2 weeks ago in black, I wanted to mention it can have navigation built in. mine came stock with the navigation tab, but would imagine it's a download once you activate the onstar. I was hesitant to go with the gas engine but after test driving both, I decided the diesels extra torque would be wasted on me for my needs. I used that saved $10K to buy the At4 HD with sunroof, rear window, wireless charger, and so on. basically the fully loaded version with gas was the same price as the base model with the deisel. so far no regrets. since my camper only weighs 8K pounds it will have all the power I need I think. absolutely love this truck. great review
What mpg are you seeing when hauling? I installed a cold air intake and not sure I am sold on it when towing. NC to FL with 8k travel trailer and just over 8mpg for me. Seems a touch low.
@@adventuresbyace4939 that's about what I get towing my travel trailer. about 7500 lb loaded.
@@adventuresbyace4939 Wow thats terrible MPG. Diesel all the waywhen towing a TT across State lines. Thats my advice anyway. Just makes it a better trip overall, WAY less noise from under the hood.
Got a 6.6 Silverado. After looking and driving the Ford and Ram which were nice I went with the Silverado and love the Truck. Glad I bought it before the prices continue to climb even higher.
GM 6.0 and 6.6 gas are both very nice. Probably the nicest gas truck motors. I have a 2016 GMC 6.0 and absolutely love it. My truck has the 4:10 rear end.
I live about 2 miles from that dealership. Keep up the good videos!
The 6.0 is rock solid and reliable.we have over a dozen of the 6.0 s at work. Zero issues.
I have 170,000 on my 15’ 6.0 zero issues and absolutely lovey truck
All of those trucks had a 4.10…there was no option.
I really enjoy my 6.6 gasser! The payload is amazing, 3600 pounds for a 2500, and it handles well. I do wish it had the 10 speed transmission though. Looking forward to the new 2024 model year with the 10 speed.
3600 pounds because GM raised the GVWR to 10,650 and 10,850 in the long bed.
I have a 22 Silverado 2500 HD gas and I absolutely love it. I do have a heavy destination trailer that I tow very infrequently and it does fine. I have a boat that I tow multiple times a week during the summer and it does amazing with that. I do wish it had the 10 speed transmission though.
My 6.0 has been absolutely sold, I tow a sxs in the bed and a bumper pull toy hauler. 2015 185,000 miles zero issues and she pulls fine.
It may not be the best and best performing engine but it will definitely be the most reliable engine in any truck u can buy
Just got a 2024 Chevy 2500 6.6 gasser with the Allison....its a beast! Just ordered the catch can to combat the direct injection issue with the oil. Conventional towing went up to 16k on my door sticker.
I have a 2022 GMC with the 6.6. This thing pulls like a diesel. I carry a welder , 100 gal. Fuel tank, and tools. It loves to pull. It doesn’t shift down constantly when you step on the pedal. Its
never on the highway and still consistently gets 16 mpg. Before this truck i had a 2017 F-350. With the 6.4. Same setup as far as weight and it got regularly got 11 mpg
I was in the market for the new 6.6 gasser. I had the 6.0 with 4:10 rear towed a 9k trailer ok albeit slowly. I ended up getting a used ram cummins for cheaper, with more options than the new gasser would have been. I don't regret that decision in the least.
We owned 3 6.0L trucks from 2002-2004 and plowed and towed trailers. We never had a problem with power. The vortec was probably the most reliable v8 truck motor ever made
Direct injection on gas 6.6 work truck, great way to keep dealers in business and credit card executives bonuses high.
The front end on gmc is looking good
I love my ‘22 2500HD 6.6L gas truck! The diesel pickups can’t hang with it, empty. Many have tried. And pulling my 33.5’ toyhauler trailer (11,500#), the truck doesn’t know the trailer is behind! I use the Fastway E2 hitch system, and the combination makes this ideal. Thank you for your reviews, JB!
I owned an 01 2500 hd with the 8.1L mated to a 5 speed Allison and a 4.10 rear end. I currently own a 22 2500hd 6.6L gas. The 01 felt much stronger than the 22 does. It feels snappy empty, but with any weight behind it it feels soft. In 24 it will get the 10 speed auto, which I guarantee will help tremendousl. I miss that 8.1L torque, but not it's appetite.
Stuart, had the same. 01 8.1 2500HD. now sporting 2020 f350 7.3 tremor with the 4.30 rear end. Almost 20 years of new tech and the new engines have similar HP and torque. A little better MPG towing with the 7.3. Night and day difference daily driving. Don't miss 8.1 appetite, but will say it treated me well for just under a decade.
The 01 felt strong because it's a massive engine compared to the 6.6L.
@@2015_Rubicnn yes, agreed, but the rated torque numbers are not far off, with the 6.6 being rated 60hp higher. The 8.1 pulled hard from idle to redline, 6.6 goes to sleep by 4000 rpms. I think the 10 speed trans will help in 24, but I also think Ford has the right idea with big cubic inches. The fuel economy is just as good.
@Stuart Meier The 496 was obviously tuned etc for longevity and has 20 year technology deficiency compared to the 6.6L. Either way it's where the numbers are placed in the RPM band and not necessarily the peak. That 496 makes a lot of torque just about 1k RPM up to about 3200. Not sure about the 6.6...but I'm sure it will do fine with the 10 speed. Just image that 496 with today's technology and a 10 speed.
@@2015_Rubicnn totally, I really didn't understand why they dropped that option. I assume the lack luster of the 6.0 pushed sales of the diesel which must make them the most money. I would love to see a big block reintroduced. A return of the "454" would sell thousands of trucks just for novelty, and with today's tech would be a viable option. I am also curious to see how Chrysler does with a turbo straight six. That could be a real industry impact for pickups if done right, but I would think it will need to be north of 5.0L displacement to fulfill HD demands.
My 2022 silverado 2500hd gasser is an awesome truck. I'm not towing hardly at all. Just pushing snow. And she'll push snow all day and all night. I think it just comes down to buying the truck that fits your needs.
Yeah. I don't pull enough to warrant a diesel. I bought the 2020 4x4 2500. I average between 15 and 16 unloaded. Best i ever got was 18.9 mpg. My camper weighs around 11k. Pulls it with no issues. My last trip through Arkansas I averaged 12mpg. 31k on it now. Thinking about trading for the 10 speed when it hits the market. my only complaints about the truck is the old tranny and 3.73 gear. Would rather have the 10 speed with 3.73. If I keep it it's getting 4.10 or 4.29
I just bought a 2022 lt awesome truck 2500 gas .in blue
Is this tru I still burning oil? Or did they fix that issue?
I have concerns about the DI system and carbon build up, but I actually don't know of anyone who's actually had issues specifically with the 6.6L gas engine. However, I do know of quite a few who've had carbon build up issues with other GM GDI engines. For that reason, I have my concerns about the 6.6L gas.
Check Out BG Products located in Wichita Kansas. The company has been around for decades is well known for the 44K product as well as fuel / air induction service to address carbon buildup on the valves and top of the pistons.....for both Port Injection and Direct Injection. BG also has special equipment for servicing the power steering and cooling systems as well as automatic transmissions.
I wish this engine was available in a half ton in order to avoid the Dynamic fuel control and auto start garbage.
Totally agree only in the HD. Not a fan of the DFM. But gonna have to run with it cause that's what we are getting with that 6.2. ✌️out.
I am hoping to order a 2024 at4 3500.. $85k is just too steep for a duramax for me so been weighing in on gas...$70k still and lookin at a new jayco 31mb which is 10k+ dry... but needing to daily the truck, diesel and def fuel just doesnt make sense for the few camping trips per year...
Now in days gasser are able to keep up with diesels, yes you lose some of that low end torque but for most people a gas does the job and saves some $$$ too. When I upgrade the 6.6 gas will be my choice if i can find one.
@@ct0245 I am ordering....so no need to find lol
Between that and the ford 3/4ton 7.3 gas tremor are the baddest truck. That’s a perfect truck for outdoorsman that have a 26’ foot 6500lb ish sea ark catfish boat that weighs around 6,500 when you put stuff in it or those that have a 10k toy hauler to the hunting ground
With the ten speed coming and the new interiors I’m going to have a hard choice in staying with Ram or going to Ford or GM.
Well, you have a nice truck. Any issues with the transmission. I have a 23 Sierra 2500 AT4 6.6 diesel. The transmission has just taken a dump at 42000 miles. Now the power train warranty does cover the repairs, but I need a new valve body and the part is on a national backorder, maybe 4 months to get my truck back. Not acceptable to say the least. Any glue what is going on with the GM parts issues?
Good option for a long travel trailer or car hauler. Side note, have you ever come across an AT 4 with color matched fender flares? I don’t know why more aren’t ordered that way. After a few years the plastic starts getting gray even with protectant.🇺🇸💪
Great point! With the AT4 I believe you can't order the color but on the SLT you can order with color, 😊 Thank you.
@@Synwright so you are saying order slt colored flares and put on the at4 lol...
@@jeffreyriggs1911 lol yeah your right, i was confusing fender flares with wheel well covers. The 2022 AT4/Denali is fixed color black. But as of 2023 the AT4/Denali the front bumper and wheel wells can be ordered to match truck color. Verified via GMC build/price site. On our ordered SLT 2023 we are able to get matching wheel well color, but not the front bumper. ✌️out 😉
Does it have limited slip front gears and electronic activated rear lockers where both tires pull in mud in rear
Great looking truck there. In the HD gas class, Ford is definitely holding it down with the 7.3L gas though. TFL truck proved that in the Ike challenge. The new 10 speed will definitely help this truck with towing heavy. Colton Brown did a review of the 6.6 gas th-cam.com/video/FoothEDwIXE/w-d-xo.html, and sums it up well. The push rod 7.3L is a superior engine, no doubt. DI gas engines are not built to last. Time will tell there, but the 7.3l ford will out last, out perform this 6.6 all day. Great vid! Keep ‘em coming!
7.3 with cam phaser, is superior product that ford is known for. Look at 5.4 and 3.5 superior cam phasers problem
@@repairvehicle ford's eco boost 3.5 have issues , look it up , fuck ford
Pull a 5th wheel with that gas motor and you will be lucky to get 9 mpgs with it!
I got 6-12 depending on the wind pulling my 5r.
One issue I have with this engine is its direct injection only. The valves will coke up with carbon over 50-100K miles. It’s a common occurrence on other GM LT engines. Won’t necessarily be an issue but long term 150-200K+ miles burning cheap 87 octane will definitely lead to intake valve deposits. I wish GM offered 4.10 gears as an option. The 10 speed will help in 2024 no doubt. I’ll be cross shopping the 2500 ZR2/AT4X 6.6 gasser against the 7.3 Tremor (port fuel injection; 4.30 gears) when I upgrade in a year or two. Another issue I’ve read on the forums is this 6.6 gas has a reputation for drinking some oil. Not a huge issue, but I’ve read enough forum complaints about it to mention it.
Carbon build-up has nothing to do with the octane rating of the fuel. Typically, you want Top-Tier certified fuel like Exxon, Chevron, Citgo, She’ll, BP, etc. They have better additive packages. But in a DI engine, they only help keep the injectors a little cleaner. The intake valves are fucked no matter what fuel is used because it doesn’t get sprayed across the back of the intake valves.
Check Out BG Products located in Wichita Kansas. The company has been around for decades is well known for the 44K product as well as fuel / air induction service to address carbon buildup on the valves and top of the pistons.....for both Port Injection and Direct Injection. BG also has special equipment for servicing the power steering and cooling systems as well as automatic transmissions.
Thermal Activity (heat) is the death of engines, transmissions, tires, etc. The flushing service on transmissions is the way to go...but only if the first service is performed at 30,000 or 40,000 miles...well in advance of manufacturer's recommendations. The "drain and fill" method does not remove dirty ATF from the torque converter. There are other competitors for some of these services now.....Wynn's; Valvoline, etc.
All of the new 10 speed transmissions are way more complex than the prior 6 speeds...and the "piece of junk" GM 8 speed - 8L90 transmission. The 10 speed transmissions built for Class 2 (F250 / 2500) and Class 3 (F350 / 3500) trucks was accomplished via "joint venture" between Ford and GM, with Ford engineers leading the project. The result was the Ford - 10R140 and the GM - 10L1000. Both transmissions had problems early on (no surprise there). Newsflash: The 10L1000 is not an 'Allison' transmission. The 10R140 and 10L1000 share most of the same internal components and parts.
@Two45s I don't know why everyone keeps making these false statements. The 10L1000 has nothing to do with the Ford 10sp. Try doing some research!!! The Ford GM joint venture 10sp is what you will find in a 1500 or a Tahoe, camaro, escalade.
How do you feel long term will be towing a 12k trailer. Any idea on fuel mileage ratings
The 2024 with the new 10sp and this 6.6 gasser is going to be legit!! Cant wait to get one of those! Only thing i wish is it had closer to 500 pd ft of torque. They have 495pdft of torque in their 1500 platform so it would be nice to have at least that and even just above 500pdft torque in their 2500hd platform. Cant wait for the 2024s though!
Agree thats like when my wife had a 3.5 ecoboost with almost 500tq but yet ford trucks didn’t come close at the time 2018
Nice to see a full set of analog gauges, instead of the digital alternative. And a key? It's like an actual truck, almost. Looking at a 3500HD. May hold off until next year for the 10 speed. Looked at a Ford 350. Not paying an extra $5,000 just because a dealer thinks that they can ask that. Not with Ford's current (lack of) reliability issues. A couple dealers have sneered at a custom order, saying you get what they can get. But they seem to be ordering some with some bells and whistles. Just not the ones I want. Happy to see the 6.6 doesn't have the fuel management system. It was bad 40 years ago, and it's still bad today, apparently. GM needs to learn from its disasters. Ford too, for that matter.
If you want a Ford F350 contact Granger Motors, Inc. (Ford and Jeep dealer) in Iowa. Granger offers great deals. Yes, you will pay below MSRP. I ordered a 2022 Ford F350 Lariat 7.3L 4WD - UP - BAP - Tremor with Warn winch and several additional options - Carpet Delete - Power Running Boards, etc. I took a year to get the truck, but worth the wait because I paid 2% below invoice. Can't get that good of a deal now. In addition, Ford has reduced allocations on the Super Duty for all Ford dealers. You might have to wait and order a 2024. Call Granger and ask to speak to Ashleigh.....she is top notch You will save money at Granger even including a plane ticket to pick up the truck and fuel driving home.
@@15Jeep thanks for the referal!
No key, it has a FOB like all new trucks.....maybe work truck possibly has key
I had 2 both LT and came with FOBs
Ford option: 2023 7.3L Godzilla 430hp/485 lb-ft (2020-2022 version = 430hp/475 lb-ft).
Ford offers 4.30 gears with the Godzilla (2020-2023), or 3.55 gears (2020-2022), or 3.73 (2023).
The 7.3 gas from ford is a more simpler design then this new 6.6 from GM. With both set ups being a new design I’m gonna have to go with fords 7.3 as a more reliable design for the long term.
Well they are both pretty simple since both motors have the old school push rod design.
@@nickwebb9937 the 6.6 is direct injected and uses a high pressure fuel injection system. Much more complex and more possible fail points.
I traded my 2020 7.3 f250 for a 2023 6.6 gmc 3500 and couldn't be happier
The Fords actually is a new design for them. It’s the first OHV engine they have produced in over 20 years.
GM has been making direct injected gas V8s for nearly 10 years in the trucks (1500s). The 6.6 is also built a lot stronger too.
@@chadmiller6487 why did you trade in so soon? Was the 7.3 problematic?
Is it push rod engine or direct rail fuel, for me it has to be push rod
The biggest problem with the 6.6 gas is the direct injection. Most other manufactures have added port injection to their DI engines to eliminate carbon buildup on the intake valves. Also the 10 speed transmission is not available until the 2024 model year.
Best way to avoid any problems with direct injection is installing a catch can. After 2500 miles there was less then an ounce in mine. So over time I'm sure it will pay off keeping the intake clean. 155 bucks and about 5 minutes to install....super easy. Aside from that, it's a great setup. Makes the best use of fuel injection.
Can you tell me were you get a catch can.
@@mnolan1490 J&L made mine. It used to be JLT. Just do a search on Amazon for them. I put one on all my vehicles regardless if they are DI or not.
@@mnolan1490 Amazon has catch cans
Great review, JB; how does this truck weigh?
Is this a big block? How many cubes?
No, 6.6l about 400 cubic inch
402 cubic inch.
400.55 technically. And it is a small block, Not a big block.
It’s very similar in performance to the Vortec 7.4s of the late 90s as far as low end power goes. And while I have no first hand experience, I’ve heard it’s very similar to the Vortex 8.1s of early 2000s. On paper it’s better.
Guys what king of empty mpgs do you average with your 6.6 gas engines and what axle ratios front and back? Thanks so much!
I was getting 10mpg in town but live by beach and tons of stop signs every block
It liked the highway 17-19mpg
It did not like stop and go.....whatever though it's a 3/4 ton...
@@kirkdunn1379 thanks Kirk
Very beautiful truck just wish it setup taller with minimum 35"s
The beautiful monster V8!!!!!
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Will the 10 speed Allison transmission be the same transmission as the duramax in 2024
Love that color, I liked my HD GM be getting another......the multi flex is awesome cuz these trucks are tall....makes it easy to get in back
I absolutely love my 6.6 gasser from gmc definitely has lots of power. But personally think my hemi had more low end torque. Both had the same 3.73 rear axle ratio. I just think people give the ram a bad rap because it's an old engine. Cant wait for the hemi engine hopefully coming with the totally new truck from ram in the future
The Hemi is almost gone. It definitely doesn't have more low end torque compared to the 6.6. the 6.4 is a fine engine.
The gasser will be the twin turbo six
@Toy Bennon "Blu said the Hurricane will be available in some Stellantis models this year. Although he would not be specific about vehicle applications, he noted that the new inline 6-cyl. engine is intended only for vehicles with longitudinal engine placement. “It fits in any [longitudinal-engine] vehicle that has a V6 or V8 today,” he said. More specifically, “The Hurricane twin-turbo I-6 is the primary internal combustion powerplant of the future in North America for vehicles using the STLA Large and STLA Frame platforms,” said the company’s release detailing the new engine. In case you are not aware the RAM 2500 is a STLA frame platform and the 3.0 HO Hurricane is slated to be the STLA frame platform's primary gasser by 2024.
Good stuff 👍🏾👍🏾
@@davidporter7051that might be too much truck for that motor
Wait till they begin putting the Allison in the 6.6 gas next years then buy one
Beautiful truck, but im good with my 2020 stx f250 with the 7.3, this engine is amazing.
Love the truck and the color of it. I'll never understand why chevy went away with the 4.10 gear in there gas HD trucks. My HD chevy and gmc are alot older (01 &02) but both have the 4.10 gears in them. If these newer trucks come with a 4.10 gear no matter what trans was behind them id be all over, but honestly the 4.10 would be perfect in this truck.
First gear in them is much deeper even with a higher rear end. For example, an 01 with 4.10 with the 4l80e will have a 1st gear of 2.48x4.10 for a total of roughly 10:1, where this truck has 4.06 x 3.73 for a total reduction of roughly 15:1. So it's geared 50% steeper with an extra 100 ft-lbs at the engine.
Total 1st gear torque of the 01 is roughly 3600ft-lbs at the hub, this one will be roughly 7000 ft-lbs at the hub.
@@ecreps1 finally someone else says this lol. I’m not against choice and wish GM would offer the option since so many people are dead set that they need the 4.10 gear, but when the 6 speed transmissions came to be it made them all but unnecessary, and especially now with the 10 speeds.
Even a 3.08/6L80 in a lot of 1500 trucks has a shorter first gear final drive than a 4.10/4L80 does.
@@ecreps1 my trucks are the 8.1/Allison 5sp with 4.10. I've had the 6.0/4l80 with the 4.10 and they tow pretty good, buy no where like my 8.1 does.
@@ecreps1 id be interested in the difference of my 8.1/Allison with the 4.10 as far as each gear ratio vs the new 6.6 gss.
@@scottburns4515 ratios for the 5 speed Allison are 3.09:1, 1.80:1, 1.40:1, 1:1, and 0.71:1. So multiply each by 4.1 and that is the final drive for each gear.
The 6L90 ratios are 4.02:1, 2.36:1, 1.53:1, 1.15:1, 0.85:1 and 0.67:1.
Your Allison with the 8.1 has a 12.66:1 final drive in 1st gear. A new 6.6 gas with the 6L90 and 3.73 has a 15.03:1 final drive. A good amount shorter. 2nd gear you have a 7.38:1 compared to 8.80:1. 3rd is 5.74:1 compared to 5.70:1. 4th gear you are direct drive so 4.10 compared to 4.29:1. The rest are OD gears. So as you see the 6.6 L8T with 3.73 gears and the 6L90 compares very favorably to the 8.1 with 5 speed Allison.
on Fords "build and price" tool on the website, for 2024, if you get the FX4 package it requires you to get the 3.73 gears. Just saying, a lot of these trucks have the Z71 package or FX4 package. Soo if you're trying to strike a balance between tow truck and off road vehicle the 3.73 is pry good.
Remember that video of your buddy in the 7.3 ford gasser, passing that struggling Cummins? That was awesome WHO WORK? Lol
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Great looking truck. What is the fuel tank capacity? I have noticed most GM's have much smaller tanks than the other manufacturers.
My 2020 2500hd 6.6 gas has a 36 gallon tank.
@@brandonv4900 Thanks for the reply!
You got your answer 👍🏾
There 36 gal....don't think they even offer another......both of mine had 36 gal as well
It is an easy engine to work on …but you don’t have to work on it 😊
I’m running both as of right now, I prefer to daily drive the gas and use the diesel for most other trips .
Diesel is in Denali trim and gas is in regular cab 3500 Pro
I have a 2021 Chevy 2500 and after 10000 miles my brakes squeak some. Was wondering if you or your followers have had that problem.
Not sure how you say Ford doesn't stand a chance. The 7.3 Godzilla has more hp, more torque, better payload and towing in the super duty. The only thing might be better is fuel economy.
And that is why we went with the 2023 6.2 gas 1500 cause we could get the 10 speed transmission with the 3.42 for 420 horsepower @ 5600 max trailering 13,000k compared to the 2023 6.6 gas 3.73 six speed transmission 401 horsepower @5200 max trailering 18,500. Yes the payload is 4008 compared to 2415 in the 1500. But our 5th wheel is small and we have been waiting for 2 years for all the truck companies to get their chips in place, really for the market to smooth out a bit and normalize. And the prices have gone up by $20k. We just cannot wait another year for the HD 2024. For us the time was now. That HD is a great truck and we were ok with buying more truck than need be. But we did not want the that 6 speed or 3.73, and we really liked the fact that the 6.6 did not have that Fuel Dynamic Management System. Another great video. PS we also will get those HD trailering mirrors on our 1500 SLT. Peace out. 🙂
The Hd has better brakes and cooling for the engine and transmission for towing. Your 1/2 ton might be able to pull it but it’s beating the components up.
@DeltaV yeah your right, we will keep that in mind. Thank 😊 you.
Yep, so much easier in 2500....more weight, beefier frame, etc.....just such a stronger truck
Ive bounced back and forth cpl times and should have kept the 2500 HD.....
At least it still has the cigar lighter so you can plug in some twelve volt accessories. I have to have a yellow warning light for my job and no where to plug it in. Needs the 12 volt cigar lighter hole to use it. I have a 2022 refreshed version Silverado.
$10 adapter fixes that, I get the frustration but come on lol
I build these 6.6 engines . My son bought a 2022 with the 6.6 and I personally think it sucks gas a lot more than the 6.0 like I have in my 2016 . I was looking at farting the 6.6 desiel. Like the mileage on that .
6.7 an 7.3 Buddy All Day
Did they fix the oil consumption issue, burns a quart of oil every 1000 miles
I have a 2022 3500hd with 2800 miles. Just returned from an 1800 mile trip. Averaged 17.2 mpg empty at 70 mph. No oil consumption. We love this truck!
@@jackezell7175 Nice dood, she's a keeper!!
Great review !!! Do you like this GMC AT4 or the Ram 2500 in ride quality.
They are great riding trucks but GMC edges it out stock for stock. Add the air suspension to the RAM, it may ride just as good but you gotta spend $1800 👀
@@JB_WhoWork I have heard the F350 will give you a good ride only of you get the high end seats. Tractor Time with Tim just got a gasser 7.3 and did a review on it compared to his 2018 diesel. Even TFL follows him. LOL
There's been a lot of complaints about burning a quart of oil every 1000 miles on 6.6
Which one? They're both 6.6
456’s and a 10 speed and I would say by by to my Duramax
That’s a beautiful truck; but GM should have lead with the 10 speed. With GM you’re always sacrificing something. If they had gone with 10 speeds, or even 4.10 axles, I would not have looked elsewhere. Having said that I’m completely happy with my Hemi ZF8 and 4.10 gears.
I think I read rhat ford and gm co worked on the 10spd.. it was said ford gets it in trucks first and gm in cars..now they flipping and can have in both.
I am excited about the 10spd.. and interrior upgrade. ordering a 3500 at4 when 24s are able to be.
@@mountainsintomemories9895. Oh you’re sacrificing with Ram and their crappy MDS lifters that fail and chew up the cam lobes. At least GM left that junk off the 6.6. I can’t find any issues that have been prevalent in the GM 6.6 at all.
@@holdenc3082 my truck sees almost no idle time, so I’m willing to roll the dice. I might be adding a hellcat oil pump here soon to bring up the pressure.
Welp they will have the “Allison” 10 speed next year. Will be interested to see how they tow
I do not believe this setup is better for me than the ford 7.3 Godzilla. I think you can even get it with 4.30 gearing.
Yep, 7.3 with the 4.30 👌
The 7.3L is also more money 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork if I ever got rid of my 2018 Cummins the only gasser to replace it would be the 7.3.
Every review complains about the 6l90e. Gm did it for a reason. Its a proven built trans and considering most of these trucks are gonna be fleet trucks, thats what companies look for. 6 speed all day.
So I had to go price a ford f350 with 7.3L that is comparable to at4 3500... uhmmm $84k vs $72k!!! i could get the duramax for that price!
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Is this better than the 7.3L Godzilla?
It’s better better because it doesn’t have a stupid name.
@@holdenc3082 better because its not Government Motors.. Cheap Mexican junk. Way to many videos of these 6.6 gassers with oil consumption issues and carbon build-up. It is a poor attempt from GM.
No 😂
6.6 is not even close to Ford 7.3. Not by a long shot.
Yeah but it's 10 times better looking lol and a way better transmission
Yeah maybe if you know nothing about engines and only look at hp and Torque specs. Gm has always made better gas engines than Ford. Look at the 6.0 vortec which Is what this engine is based off of I’ve seen those things with over 1 million miles on them. I’m not saying the 7.3 is bad but in heavy duty trucks I just really don’t care about the fact that it has a faster 0-60 and is 0.7 liters bigger
You’re just upset your femboy left you
How does the Ford Godzilla compare?
Crushes this in towing! Watch TFL’s Ike Gauntlet runs, the Ford 7.3 does way better.
It doesnt. Not on paper. Not in reality. The big, simple 7.3 is king of the hill. Only variable is which one do you like better?
I think the 10 speed will be the decider with the 6.6L. Right now, the 7.3L has it beat with those extra gears and lower gearing out back 👍🏾
The 6.6L using DI is the main reason I would never buy one of these. Ford & Ram both use port injection which is much better for truck duty. DI has it's benefits but carbon buildup is not something you should be concerned about in a pickup.
Yea I get that, RAM uses cylinder deactivation though 😅
@@JB_WhoWork Which is why I'd choose a Ford 7.3L between them all. Just a simple, beefy, powerful V8 built to take abuse.
You are being biased again..LOL. I own a 2020 Ford 7.3 modified with a Carli level and 37's and 2 of my guys who are die hard GM guys (and I am a GM guy as well) have the 2021 6.6 gas on a Chevy and 2022 GMC truck..both stock. The Ford 7.3 out pulls the 6.6 all day long even with level and 37's. Its not even close and maybe the 10 speed has helped. More of the torque is where we need it and we tow 6-13k all the same trailers most of the day. Even empty the 7.3 is quicker but more so when we have a load on it.
I Changed out them junk ass rancho shocks to Bilsteins front and rear.. totally different truck! It’s embarrassing for 80k$ get 30$ shocks still c’mon gm, the wheel hop and needing chiropractor after driving 100 miles is gone
Godzilla. And a better overall truck with it
The godzilla will eat it for lunch.
Meanwhile Ram has never increased hp or tq in their 6.4 Hemi! 🤣🤣🤣
I don’t know JB I think ford might have it
research the hell out of every vehicle your considering.automakers & dealers are counting on you to NOT do your homework.so they can keep milking your wallet the entire duration of your ownership.the old saying is still true.a fool and his money are soon parted.& there are alot of fools out there in todays world who regret their foolish buying decisions.DONT BELIEVE ADVERTISING, THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL LIARS.
Gmc looks way better then ford
The 6.6 has great output numbers but it's direct injection coking prone design is not at all a long term reliable design like Fords 7.3 port injection motor. Ford finally went in the right direction and as a Chevy fan I wish gm would build their HD truck with a 8.8 liter big block design option like they sold PSI industrial motor company.
There hasn’t been any significant problems with the direct injection on the 6.6. It’s a non issue.
@@holdenc3082 No Problems with direct injection...........YET.....just wait, there will be long term. However, there are methods of maintenance to avoid and or prevent those types of problems. Check Out ----> BG Products - Wichita Kansas. Many shops have BG equipment and products. Look up and read about the PG fuel / air induction service for both port injection and direct injection.
All you guys bitching about the 6 speed, enjoy the $10k it costs when your transmissions go up in smoke. The 6L90E is a much better fleet transmission and is proven to go 250k or more with hard use if it’s maintained properly.
This truck is GDI,the Fords and Rams use port injection only which is better for reliability and simplicity especially with the idling these trucks often do in fleet and contractor service . For 2023 the GM is the weakest base engine offering,Being topped by both Fords 6.8 and 7.3l port injection ,and Chryslers 6.4L 415 hp Hemi. The GMs do have stout running gear for sure, the 6 speed automatic is reliable and proven. The lack of a 4.10 ratio is an issue especially only having a 6 speed automatic and tall tires. This truck is a 1 ton with 2500 decals so no sense comparing it to the true 3/4 tons sold by ford and Ram. The best 3/4 ton truck for towing 5 th wheel is the f250 7.3L w 4.30 gearing.Night and day better than the GM 2500 1 ton.
If gas were going to stay at $2.00 per gallon for the next 10 years .... I would be all over it !
FJB
Yeah but 10k for the diesel motor....will take 10 years to make it worth it if you don't need a diesel
Apparently they love oil and direct injection carbon buildup
You think this is better than Ford's new 6.8 gasser and 7.3 godzilla gas engine
What's the fuel mileage, 17 to 18 mpg
7.3 is around 14 mpg, the old 460, lol
Ford gas engines mated with 10 speed transmission
The integrity and weight GM compromises by not putting a real axle up front gives the left over GVWR to the rear. Its that simple.
Towing very heavy loads with a gooseneck, nice to have the extra weight of a solid axle up front...plus more reliable and more durable than IFS...and better axle articulation / wheel travel off-road.
Direct injection=Hell NO
Bruh…stop! The ford 7.3 gas kills this 6.6. I have the 6.6 in a Denali and it don’t have the grunt of the 7.3.
Fuel mileage is crap in the 7.3 though.
@@dustinmetcalf1141 the 6.6 fuel mileage is not great at all itself.
According to dyno charts it absolutely has the grunt. They have very similar torque curves.
But that’s just numbers on paper. Regardless Ford charges a pretty significant amount extra to just get the 7.3. That’s a typical Ford move. And also Ford hasn’t built an OHV engine in over 20 years (until the 7.3 of course). That means something.
So while I think Ford has went in the right direction to finally ditch the junk OHC “modular” motors they have pushed for the past 24 or 25 years, let’s not get carried away with the 7.3. And also it’s my belief that it will be rendered pointless next year when they offer the 6.8 with pretty similar power output for no up charge.
@@dustinmetcalf1141lol who buys a 7.3 for fuel economy?! Lol jack ass
Not killing it, keep in mind the 6.2L is the actual competitor against the 6.6L
1st of all.. you need lotion on your hands..
2nd of all .. I have a 22 at4 2500 gas and I was able to tow 17.3000 lbs. Like it was nothing. So If you want a gasser.. don’t listen to these diesel” headeds &&’ .
Get what you like and want 💯
Gm cheats by bumping up the gvwr to get the extra payload. Not much different than Ram. Ram 3/4 is just better a better appointed interior. Rear coil springs are also really nice loaded or unloaded.
I have a 2017 Chevy 2500 duramax and 2018 Ram 2500 Cummins. Both are 4x4 trucks. Chevy ride is smoother than the Ram. I am not talking a little smoother. I mean a lot smoother. No comparison. I like both trucks. If I am taking a road trip, I definitely take the Chevy.
All the sheepies will line up Naruto style for another 1k a month payment for this beast. Good job GM.
You are tied to The Seiner dealership! No doubt this truck is going to be superior in your own mind. Run this thing against the Ford and get your eyes opened. GM has been beat down by Ford for many years and the beat down will continue.
I’ve driven many 7.3L trucks and the 6.6L isn’t far behind
@@JB_WhoWork close only counts in horseshoes!
Well consider the 6.6L doesn’t compete with the 7.3L because technically it’s an optional gas engine. I like the 7.3L a lot but the 6.6L is no slouch 👍🏾
No it's still a gutless gas motor and a heavy duty truck 400 horse and 460 torque is below their half ton lineup this is a larger engine it should do at least what the 62 does if not at least 30% better.
I don't care how you slice it it's a turd same goes for the 73 and the Ford or the six four in the Dodge with the technology we have nowadays there's no reason why these things should be that low especially in a truck that's more than capable of handling a heavy duty load
Another GM motor that burns oil . No thanks .... everything GM seems to be blaaaa. As far as that higher gvwr . Yeah that awesome for camper pulling. Not so much for anything else. Why is that???? Must gooseneck trailers are rated at 15k . Hook that up to this truck and just like that your over 26k. Unless you have a de-rated trailer. You are over cdl.
This oil burning garbage ill take a ram any day