Tips to Increase Bow Draw Weight WITHOUT the GYM
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Thanks for saying my lats are a powerhouse. I needed that today
Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.
Apparently when they brought up the longbows from the Mary rose the draw weight was 180 pounds, absolutely true, the English archers were immensely strong,
Form wasn’t rly important for them as they just kinda lobbed arrows down range.
That is fucking insane. Apparently they could shoot through plate armor as well.
2 years old but they actually had deformed skeletons from shooting them
@@Default71677 Deformed? Or... adapted? lol.
Archeologists have confirmed they did physical damage to their bodies shooting that much weight.
Well watched this this morning. Went outside increased my poundage 64lb to 70lb. Shot 12 arrows at 70lb never did this before. Great tip.
That's awesome! I'm glad my explanation helped! Thanks for sharing!
I'm completely new to Archery, and I was pulling back exactly like you showed at the beginning of the video. Made an immediate impact. Great tips :)
That was excellent! Just turned 65, and this will help using physics vs pure strength.
More importantly, shoot your bow when it's not nice out as well, shooting 70 pounds when its 75 and sunny, vs 20 degrees is a different animal. Shoot when it's cold and you're muscles are cold and you'll find your true draw weight .
Yeah I've messed up my delts a couple times. Elbow is key, I used to have mine low. Hands at eye level, elbow up, straight back. Used to have bow pointing up too.
Starting with keeping your weight on your leading foot is a great tip, that's something my coach never mentioned. Thank you.
But yeah, the first thing we were taught in target archery is to never draw across the chest. You tend to struggle this way and when you do the arrow has a tendency to fall off the blade rest esp in the last few inches of the draw cycle (although that isn't a problem with captive drop-away rests and whisker biscuits). Even if you get away with it, you'll only physically last 1-2 dozen arrows at the most before you over-exert and completely lose accuracy. The other is the efficiency of movement - the bow arm has to start off at eye level and it doesn't move, so that when your draw hand has completed the draw cycle it anchors immediately and all you have to do is let the dot in the scope seat itself into the 10-zone before executing the shot.
I have watched this several times just to remind myself. Thank you!!
When I first started shooting bow, I was shooting instict and needed a ton of shooting throughout the summer to get my accuracy. By mid summer, I was shooting up to 3 straight hours solid without breaks. I increased my draw weight by 10-15 lbs also. That was almost 20 years ago now. Then I lived out in the country and shot whenever I wanted. Now I live in town and am not allowed to shoot inside city limits. Plus I am older, have had back issues, and injured my draw shoulder 5 years ago. I am excited to try this out and practice drawing back at home to work on the muscles to build the strength and muscle memory so when I do target shoot I'll be a step ahead.
doubledroptinehunter hopefully this will help let us know how it goes! Hunter has had two shoulder surgeries and this is how he has adapted to draw his bow so hopefully this will help you work around injuries, good luck!
Watching this after struggling to pull 70lbs. Honestly had no idea how to do it, was using all rear delt, as you've mentioned. I workout a lot too. Was a bummer that I could barely pull it. Thanks for the tips.
I went from struggling to half draw my 50 pounder to almost poking the back of the handle with the arrow. This is good stuff.
Yes practice, practice practice I shot a great 11 pointer last fall after shooting every day in the summer than just a couple of weeks before opening day like I used too,,So it was getting dark quick. moving deer 30 yards out of came out from nowhere and was walking in and out of cover. I had seconds to put it all together,, you brain goes into auto pilot mode and MUSCLE MEMORY kicks in. That's what the thousand of arrows I shot before helped me developed..
What is the obsession with high draw weight? Back tension is important, but you should shoot what is comfortable and not aim for the highest.
william keeling because everyone should strive to be the best version of themselves. Learning how to maximize your muscles and be strong is actually a good thing. If someone doesn’t have a limiting injury I think everyone should set goals and strive to be their best. I’m Tired of people arguing that 70lbs is too much, if someone works at it it’s totally achievable. It’s called get up and do something and not just sit on the couch hating on people who want to maximize their potential.
@@BrunkOutdoors I don't disagree that people should be the best they can. I do disagree with the culture spreading around archers and bow hunters that you have to shoot above 60 lbs to be effective. My comment was targeted at people who only want to shoot the highest amount without due regard to their limits, or what is comfortable. If you are comfortable at 70 shoot 70, but if you struggle with it you risk injury and developing bad habits.
william keeling we feel the same way, we only want people to shoot what is comfortable for them. We just get tired of people not realizing that 70 lbs can in fact be comfortable for people to draw. We have noticed the opposite, there seems to be much more of the push to shoot less weight now a days not a push for people needing to shoot 70 lbs. I lot of animals get lost due to not getting enough penetration, so you might as well strive to maximize your draw weight as long as you aren’t sacrificing form and accuracy. It just seems like people think it’s impossible to draw 70 lbs comfortably, when in fact a lot of regular people could be comfortable shooting even more than that.
@@BrunkOutdoors then in fact it does seem we agree. I think the lack of penetration is the push for mechanical broadheads, and extremely light arrows. I think if people focused on making sure their setups were tuned and their arrows built for hunting and maximum penetration instead of speed they would lose less animals. I personally shoot 63 lbs at 29 1/2 with my recurve and a 7-900 grain arrow depending on what I am hunting
william keeling that’s an awesome set up! And 63 lbs is a lot for a recurve!Completely agree that mechanical broadheads and light arrows are one of the biggest contributors to lack of penetration.
Excellent form! I pull a 65 lb compound and 55lb recurve no problem this way and can shoot all day long. Good advice regarding forward position too. I'll give that a try!
I think 50lbs is a good medium. 20lbs up from 30lbs, 20lbs down from 70lbs. Easier to draw and can take down large game at distance. I anchor beneath my chin because it aligns everything from the broadhead tip to the release. Virtually eliminates left-right axis deviation and drastically improves accuracy.
Bro I just came across your video OMG thank you so much. Ive been hunting for 4 years and Ive always used a traditional Bow at 50 pounds or a crossbow depending on how desperate for meat I am. I just bought a compound yesterday and I was struggling to pull it and have been in the gym for 1 year constantly. This all makes sense now based on how you described it and Im definitely gonna practice with it tomorrow thank you
I shoot almost everyday year-round, when I can't shoot outside I can shoot in my basement it's almost 20.yards wall to wall.
When I was younger (20s) I shot an 80 lb Martin firecat now we're back in the 80s way before you were born.
At 60ish years old I shoot around 70# both of my hunting bows.
When I draw I hold my Bow straight out in front of me and I do the high back elbow draw that takes a lot of strain off of your shoulders and back.
Also with a high elbow draw when you come back you're peep and everything should be aligned you're coming right back into your anchor point there's no other movement I noticed the way you do it you're drawing way below your chin then you have to raise your hand up to your anchor point which is fine if that works for you.
The main thing is shoot and shoot often I try and shoot at least 50 arrows a day.
I'm betting I could still draw 80 lb today.
But what's the point with modern bows they are so fast anyways
To each their own. I actually use my bow arm to separate as opposed to keeping it locked. This way I engage my entire back instead of just one side:
Thanks a lot! That helped me drawing 55lbs on the first day owning a compoundbow( I'm 15)
Thanks dude
Thank you, thank you, thank you: made all the difference in the world for my 61 year old self. I can already tell you've saved me from a lot of future pain, and a lot of miss shots.
Great video on the draw technique. Now I want to critique your shooting technique. Get your finger hooked around the trigger on your release and pull through the shot by bringing your draw elbow straight back and focus on using by squeezing your rhomboid muscles to make the shot go off. Trigger punching is a bad habit and can lead to target panic!
Hi,
I need help.
I bought a used Mathews Apex 7 compound bow. I know nothing about bows, just the hog hunting on Utube.
I took it to an archery shop, and I couldn’t even pull the string. It’s got 50lb draw weight, that’s unadjustable.
I’m in the UK, male, and 65 yes old.
I want to be able to use it.
What should I do ?
I need help man, I’ve watched so many different videos on how to draw correctly and can’t fricken do it with anything over like 55 pounds, I draw the same weights easily by drawing it the wrong way and I draw 63 right now that way but I know I’m gonna end up screwing up my shoulder… please please please help me out, I can’t get that brain to muscle connection and it feels like I’m pulling my arm out of my shoulder socket when I try to draw high
This looks like Ohio area bro or somewhere close ?? He’s right it will come natural and easy and you’ll laugh at how easy it can be and how fast and silent them arrows fly . Then it gets even better learning to tune a bow and getting thst arrow to fly flat and true . I got anew bow this year but I still like shooting a2008 diamond marquis which is another thing I wanted to say is it’s probably better to get a used flagship bow than a new $3-$400 bow . Just my opinion over decades of shooting .
I’m first time bow hunter, that’s how I started out, pouring above straight back on my shoulder is sore. Going to give it some time to heal up and practice what you have on this video.
Also try using a recurve, you don't draw fully with a compound only about 10-20% of the draw is the full poundage
depends on the bow
A better tip might be to shoot a poundage you can EASILY draw without all these gymnastics.
I don't struggle with drawing as much is bow wobble after hold at full draw
Harvey hold out 5/6lb weights straight out
Excellent technique video. Thank you from a new shooter!
Its not what your can draw but what you can let down imo. If you are hurting yourself letting your bow down you need to drop the draw weight.
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Finally... someone not telling me to sky-draw the bow. thanks for the helpful tips!
Airianna Johnson I mean I shot that way for years but I pull straight back not down just straight on targer
Iam going to used , i just , did buy my first bow and i was to sent it back , today becouse i never had on. Iam going to follow you tips and see what happened
wohou maan! that helps me a lot! because last week ago im looking for a Bow. i just start like the old style with only bow or crossbow (but bow is so cool) and i'm thinking of 50lbs for my first bow ever. i shoot with bow 10 years ago when i was a kid :D so i need to learn the right technique.
3 days ago i saw your video about $250 vs $1100 bow and you motivated me for buy a bow.
i'm glad to youtube recommend me your video!
Greetings from Slovakia (sorry for my english btw.)
Dokruteny David welcome to the sport! That makes us happy that our video has motivated you to get into the sport! It is so much fun and you definitely will not regret it! If you need any help with anything always feel free to ask! A lot of our videos come from people asking questions. We built this channel to do our best to help people getting started in archery or hunting so we are super happy that you found the channel!
Looking forward to trying your pointers later today. Seemed to have hit a wall, and I think I am doing exactly what you described by just using mostly shoulder.
But hit the gym too
You'll get old creaky shitty shoulders if you dont..and so will the rest of your body..when you're middle age
I'm just getting into bow hunting and I used my friends bow which is 50 draw and I can do that but the one I am looking at is a minimum of 60 draw do you think I can do that? How much of a difference is 10 pounds?
More than you think it is.
Great video. As a new archer that has struggled with finding a draw form that is pain free and increases the use of my back, this video is spot on. For me, my trigger is both a high elbow and low release hand. This seems to engage my lats the most and allow me to draw back pain free.
Kinda weird I use my chest at first then use my shoulder and deltoid and pull back well
Lol I TRIED to shoot my dads bow, I did elbow down. Wanna try your way now.
Thanks for that I have a really bad shoulder and trying to look for something easier
Yes thank you one of the best explanations I’ve seen thank you!
Dumbbell lawn mower pulls work wonders
Wow I got a torn shoulder for years that is an ac and cc tear. That tip just made it so much easier and no pain in my shoulder
That is helpful. I have a bad drawing shoulder and have trouble using back tension.
So i just started and i have a strength issue, im in a wheelchair
Does the same apple to sitting down?
Very good video, Practice, Practice, and more Practice . Biggest problem people are over bowed. They cant draw proper, and create real bad habits. Starting out with a proper poundage and draw. Lots of proper practice. Practicing all spring and summer everyday. Do a deer season. Then the following spring jump up 5lbs, and start the same process over again. 5 lbs is a huge difference. When it comes too drawing a bow and releasing a arrow. With the proper form.
Anyone think a 14 year old who is 110 pull 50 pounds I’m currently running a lower weight 30 pounds with a bit of practice and muscle workouts do you think I could pls I need answers ima bit discouraged
landon lengyel I would say you definitely can, you’ll be getting a lot stronger really fast if you keep shooting.
Man this video is amazing, it has helped me so much!! Thanks a ton!!
KeepDoubtingMe glad it could help!
Good tips what you say the same thing over and over and over get to the point.
Thanks for the info @ 81
- I need to be more efficient !!!!
Get to the freaking point! Dang! First 3 minutes are a total waste.
New archer. Just upped my draw weight and this advice really helps.
Thanks!
Would this work for a Traditional bow as well?
Thnks i feel the different so much. I almost injured myself with my technique
Andy Khaer glad it helped! Most importantly always keep your shoulder health in mind. If you have to back weight down to get the proper form that is ok! Safe shooting
Great tip for beginners.
But most importantly keep the finger off the trigger when you’re drawing back my dude.
That’s a terrible habit to get into
jayonez 13 thanks for watching. My finger was behind the trigger during all draws.. I know it looks like it was in front of in the video at first, but look closely I actually naturally have my finger behind the trigger pushing it forward. You can see me finally put my finger in front of the trigger when I finally shoot the bow.
Brunk Outdoors
You are correct and I apologize.
I was watching the video outside in sun.
I just watched again inside And you are clearly drawing back with finger behind trigger.
jayonez 13 no worries! I knew it would be hard to tell, it’s a good video idea though cause a lot of new archers wouldn’t know that! Take care!
I'm an older woman. I want to shoot more pounds. I like this video and will be shooting more but how many times each day do I shoot. Like how many arrows starting out.
I would say if you shoot 10-15 arrows a day or every other day that would be plenty to start with! Gradually work your way up, but I try not to set a number because I want shooting to be fun and some days are better than others. Good luck and let us know if you have any questions!
to pull warbow weights on a traditional english longbow its virtually impossible to draw without pushing with the left and pulling with the right arm + back as one whole movement. i'm pretty sure trying to not push an pull on those 100+lb weights leaves you liable to injuring the right arm/back
I call the lats on the side hugging muscles lol
Can you use these same techniques on a recurve?
With today’s technology, anything of 60# is overkill and asking for shoulder problems. Every big game animal in North America has been killed with 50#.... Hell, I watched Ted Nugent kill a damn Buffalo @ 80 freaking yards with 55# 10 years ago...... so any bow nowadays 50-60 can do that effortlessly!
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I just did it the old fashion way start of the 20 lb draw recurve bow now I'm on a 70 lb recurve
How long did it take you to get to 70lbs. and, how often did you shoot?
@@phantomcruizer about a year but that was largely about having enough money to afford the new recurve limbs
Yeah me to same way as you. I shoot 65lb recurve started with 45lb also shoot 74lb triax no probs.
Great advice! Thanks!
How come I’m way better at the first way?? And terrible at the correct way
Jason Buben muscle memory. It’s a learned movement. Shoot however is most comfortable!
Nice, have to try that, thanks.
i can draw ten more pounds now thank you so much
I'm 46 years old and haven't shot in over 20 years......and I have to admit I never had proper form, just had the strength to pull the bow back..... went to test a bow out the other day and I was embarrassed because I couldn't do it......Im still pretty damned strong but it felt like I couldn't even come close to pulling it back..... but after watching this I'm going to give it another go ......I want to get back into hunting real bad
Nice video, good advice ... I trust anybody who's smart and uses the same Bowtech Realm X as I have lol.
kidsolo36 it’s a great bow! Thanks for watching!
Excellent info. Thank you. I'm brand new to the compound bow. I picked one out for Christmas. Can't wait to try out better form.
Interesting video and well put together but I can't agree. Drawing back with your elbow down, in my experience and opinion is a way stronger and safer position, especially for your shoulders.
I've been shooting 80lb bows for a number of years and never once had a shoulder issue and never had a problem pulling back a bow, even in seated or kneeled positions and cold and miserable conditions.
Each to their own though, what works for some won't always work for everyone.
Keep up the quality content 👌
Tony Gillahan thanks for watching Tony! You’re right that it may not work for everyone, biggest thing is for everyone to try to preserve their shoulders!
@@BrunkOutdoors spot on man! However anyone does it, if it's hurting or if they fatigue early, they need to do something about it! 🍻
@@tonygillahan i am 100 percent with you. I draw across my chest and try to keep my elbow moving parallel with the ground until i anchor. My shoulder will not allow me to draw like shown in the video. I do like how you dont have to as much moving finding your anchor point when you draw like this
@@jordanpowell228 it does require slightly more movement to find anchor for sure, but I'd rather that than a stuffed shoulder.
@@tonygillahan if you draw across the chest on a shooting line you be reprimanded, and if your unable to draw using the back you`re over bowed
Your video helped me. I was thinking of going to a much light draw weight. Now I think I can stay at 65 lbs.
Been shooting like that for awhile but I'm getting old now might have'ta drop a couple pounds off that 70+ is getting tougher every year
Pat LeClere nothing wrong with dropping down! Bows are so efficient and powerful now that you really don’t absolutely need to shoot 70lbs to harvest an animal. Will it help break bone? yes but in our opinions it’s much better to preserve your body as best you can. So I’d rather drop draw weight instead of having to deal with shoulder problems or pain.
Great instructions 👍
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The Best tip is....Shot,Shot and Shot ;) Shot recourve and Compoundbow. The recourve give endurance and the Compoundbow drawpower. so i greatly improved my skills in a few weeks
Thank you!
Amazingly simple and effective tip! Thank you!
Wow, best rendition of how to use the back muscles,, well done!
Just turned 40 to 55
Man, I wish I had come across this earlier. 6 months into bow shooting and thinking about increasing draw weight before season. Just tried this coming in over the top and it feels 10 lbs lighter. Well described. Thanks!
I pull back to my chest like you showed, that’s how I’ve always shot. I have tried to switch to the right way but it way more difficult and I can’t pull back nearly as much as I could pulling to my chest
HFV Squad that’s because your smaller muscles are used to it.
Watch Cameron Hanes and look how he draws his bow.
Show them how to position their feet.
What sight is that.
Thanks. Just got my first bow at 51. Can't draw it because I'm probably just doing it wrong. Been going to the gym to try to get stronger. Will try the better technique.
Wonderfull
Thanks to this I was able to get use to my new bow starting at 55 now I’m increased by draw weight to 60 this trick help a lot
Thank you
Great advice! I have found that different muscles engage during the draw cycle and one might have to adjust depending on where the peak weight or hump is on the draw curve of your bow. Good tip on starting leaning forward and pre-tensioning the lats for early peak weight. For later peak weight, it helps to go chest proud to engage the big muscles between the scapulae. The best exercise I have found are gym ring crossed rows with back straight and parallel to the floor, pausing 2-4 seconds at the top.
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Nice tip but why did it take so long to get it across?
So everyone watching can fully understand the tips being portrayed.
Great tip
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thanks for the tip
recently been having problem drawing my bow back, hope this helps, nothing worse than having your trophy show up and not being able to get to full draw☹️
Thanks Brunk, just got a 70lb Obsession and glad for the tips
For me when I draw with my elbow high it’s hard and I’m at 60lbs but when I keep it low I can pull it no problem
Idk how I pull my bow back but I am 16 short and fat and I am pulling 70 to, I guess now when I go out ima see how I pull it back
This is definitely good with recurve bows. Got to hold all that weight back. lol
Thanks for the tips!